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02:07 Megaf VanessaE; you there?
02:07 VanessaE no
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02:07 VanessaE :P
02:07 Megaf ok
02:07 Megaf I will wait till you get back then
02:07 Megaf =/
02:07 Megaf xP
02:08 Megaf VanessaE; What's going on with Baron-vengeous?
02:08 VanessaE Megaf: just what cheapie said.
02:08 Megaf Hes on my server now
02:08 VanessaE disrespecting people, followed by multi-server ban evasion
02:08 Megaf right
02:08 Megaf I will tell he to apologize and stop doing that
02:09 VanessaE I'm letting cheapie's ban stand.  if he wants to release the ban, that's up to him.
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03:05 WindHero hmm..........
03:05 WindHero Trying to think of a new biome for caverealms...
03:06 WindHero I tried making an underground lake biome,
03:06 WindHero but it would require some more advanced coding
03:07 WindHero ...not impossible, but I'm looking for something quicker
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03:33 WindHero when you think of mese, what ground content comes to mind?
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03:39 WindHero hey Zeno`
03:39 Zeno` hi :)
03:39 Zeno` does anyone have time to chat about: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/24face5249abfddd3de1e255ec4072677b39969d
03:40 Zeno` any progress on caverealms, WindHero?
03:40 WindHero somewhat
03:41 WindHero I'm testing a sort of biome blend with the crystals right now
03:41 Zeno` nice
03:41 WindHero instead of biomes being solidly one type...
03:41 WindHero there's a 1/20 chance that any crystal could be a second 'alternate' type
03:41 Zeno` oh, that would make things better
03:42 Zeno` I don't really like the current "separation" of crystal colours
03:42 Zeno` but if there was an occasional one of a different colour it would be better
03:43 WindHero precisely
03:43 WindHero I'm also brainstorming for ideas of a 3rd biome
03:43 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/24face5249abfddd3de1e255ec4072677b39969d      <--- regarding that, I have questions regarding the use of static (mainly why)
03:43 WindHero I have two or three long term ideas
03:44 WindHero I haven't the faintest
03:44 Zeno` I've done a few more textures, but still tweaking them
03:44 WindHero cool
03:44 Zeno` oh, regarding the commit, I just don't understand why they're static now (it makes the function non-reentrant and I can't see any advantage to them being static)
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03:47 WindHero I'm having a mental block...
03:47 WindHero what ground content comes to mind when you think of mese?
03:47 Zeno` yellow
03:49 WindHero https://mediacru.sh/3C7aqMD4Ms65
03:50 WindHero I guess then it would be algae on the ground
03:50 Zeno` nice :)
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03:50 Zeno` yeah algae would work
03:51 WindHero time to break out the Colorize tool :P
03:51 Zeno` I still think the glowworms should be coloured (like they are in real life; they're only "white" when it's light)
03:52 Zeno` e.g. when you shine a torch on them
03:52 WindHero they actually have a small hint of blue
03:52 WindHero but i need to make it deeper, I guess
03:52 Zeno` otherwise they're emitting blue or green light which is all you see
03:52 Zeno` maybe a little. I understand why you've done it the way you have though (because of all the blue stalegs)
03:53 Zeno` what's that on top of the mese? glow-mese?
03:53 WindHero glow-mese-crystals
03:54 Zeno` cool :)
03:54 WindHero I'm thinking of having them craftable
03:54 Zeno` need phosporous or mycena essence hehe
03:54 WindHero maybe have them yield 4 mese crystals
03:54 WindHero !
03:54 Zeno` oh you mean craft them into mese?
03:55 WindHero both ways
03:55 Zeno` I was thinking the other way around heh
03:55 Zeno` :)
03:55 WindHero to and from
03:55 WindHero I like that idea though
03:55 Zeno` love the way they sit on top of ore now
03:56 WindHero put a mycena mushroom on the craft grid to get mycena essence
03:56 Zeno` I have a craft for mycena essence in mtz
03:56 Zeno` i think it's water + mycena + bottle
03:56 WindHero craft 4 mese crystals with 2 mycena essence
03:56 Zeno` although I might change that
03:56 WindHero hmm
03:57 Zeno` i have a mortar and pestel that I currently don't use, so maybe glow powder
03:57 WindHero I was thinking dried essense, yeah
03:57 WindHero kinda like how you can craft bone into bonemeal
03:57 WindHero or various dyes
03:58 Zeno` so maybe mortar and pestel + mycena => glow powder
03:58 Zeno` dunno
03:58 WindHero can work out inter-mod dependencies later on :P
03:58 Zeno` yeah I was going to replace all the dyes with mortar and pestel + flower => dye but figure it might annoy too many people
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03:58 Zeno` figured*
03:58 hadenough Hi. Can I just take a freeminer-generated world/ and use it in minetest?
03:58 WindHero have the mortal&pestle remain behind on the grid
03:58 Zeno` but with glow powder, especially if you can make mese, a little effort wouldn't go astray heh
03:59 Zeno` oh yeah, you get that back
03:59 Zeno` hadenough, no idea. try it :)
04:01 Zeno` WindHero, will you be doing a commit today?
04:01 Zeno` I have to update my MT server so may as well do a bunch of updates at the same time
04:02 WindHero yeah, I will
04:02 WindHero I almost have it ready
04:02 WindHero want it as is, or get those craft items/recipes in quick?
04:05 Zeno` if it was me I'd leave the craft items out for now and think about them, but up to you :p
04:05 WindHero mm'k
04:05 WindHero I'll just test that things are in order, and get a commit in if so
04:06 Zeno` it's no big deal if the crafts are there.. they can change later of course
04:07 Zeno` I need to reboot... bbiab (probably hehe)
04:08 Zeno` never know with grub on this machine :/
04:08 Zeno` It's like a fantastic game of Russian Roulette
04:19 WindHero !tell Zeno`  I have to go eat dinner, but I pushed a commit. Enjoy!
04:19 MinetestBot WindHero: I'll pass that on when Zeno` is around
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08:24 PenguinDad 안녕하세요!
08:25 PilzAdam is that the language of penguins?
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09:46 CraigyDavi PenguinDad, does that that mean "hello everyone" in korean?
09:48 jin_xi Annyong!
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10:06 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: yes
10:06 PenguinDad !tw 480869882486341632
10:06 MinetestBot My 5 year old son just asked my wife if 20 + 20 is 2020. I think he's going to be a JavaScript developer when he grows up. (@compay)
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12:12 Krock hi
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12:25 Zeno` hi
12:27 sfan5 meow
12:27 sfan5 hi everyone :3
12:28 * Zeno` looks at sfan5
12:29 * Zeno` looks at Zeno`
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12:34 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=146376#p146376
12:43 Zeno` is that a drawing of me at the bottom?
12:44 Krock yes. you in the future
12:44 Krock :3
12:44 Zeno` :/
12:44 CraigyDavi https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=286&amp;p=146378#p146378 :)
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12:45 * Krock points at dead horse
12:45 Zeno` I still don't get why the person is beating a dead camel
12:46 Zeno` oh, it's a horse
12:46 Krock guys, you don't get what that imagemeans?
12:46 CraigyDavi I get it
12:46 Zeno` I do now. I thought it was a camel though
12:46 Krock you try to get the dead horse running again
12:46 Krock (horse marked with "topic")
12:47 Zeno` looks like a camel
12:47 Krock k
12:48 Zeno` ;)
12:49 * Krock still wonders, where those dead-topic-bumper get the idea from
12:49 Zeno` It's the internet. *shrug*
12:50 * Krock thinks, he should make a mod to add special functions like math.round and os.exeute = nil
12:51 Zeno` You need a mod for that? I thought you could just replace those in the Lua table where they're registered
12:51 Krock o.o?
12:51 sfan5 https://pay.reddit.com/r/fossworldpr​oblems/comments/25jw21/i_entered_g_i​nto_firefox_and_hit_enter_expecting/ :D
12:51 Zeno` would have to be done from the C++ of course
12:51 Zeno` but you can replace Lua internal functions with "nil"
12:52 PenguinDad Krock: that needs math.ground :P
12:52 Krock --
12:52 PenguinDad __
12:52 Krock ..
12:52 Krock sfan5, I get google :(
12:52 Zeno` I was assuming you didn't want people to run those
12:52 Zeno` perhaps MT already does it
12:54 Zeno` what's wrong with math.round?
12:54 PenguinDad Zeno`: math.round doesn't exist in lua
12:54 Zeno` hmm... it should :)
12:54 Krock math.floor is enough...
12:55 Zeno` it's in the standard (C) libs
12:55 * PenguinDad prefers math.ceil
12:56 Zeno` ceil() and floor() honour direction though
12:56 Zeno` I don't think round() does
12:57 Zeno` maybe it does... /me checks
12:58 Zeno` yeah it doesn't
12:58 Zeno` These functions are similar to rint, but they round halfway cases away from zero instead of to the nearest integer (or other current rounding mode).
13:00 Zeno` Dunno why Lua doesn't have it
13:00 * Zeno` emails
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13:11 Jordach wat the fack
13:11 Jordach it's thundering here
13:12 * Krock throws a view towards the sky
13:12 * Krock has a gray-blue horizon
13:16 Jordach i bought L4D2 last night and not had a single chance to actually properly play it
13:17 * Krock googles L4D2
13:17 sfan5 Krock: you don't know l4d?
13:18 Krock I didn't know what those letersmeant
13:18 Amaz Jordach, it was thundering here too, a few minutes ago.
13:18 Krock but I know the game
13:18 Krock ^ sfan5
13:18 Amaz So, probably the same weather system.
13:19 * Krock reads Today, 13:37
13:20 Krock <3
13:23 Krock @germans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQvuj6WYhs
13:23 PenguinDad !title
13:23 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Otto Waalkes - Unter den Wolken - YouTube
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13:45 john_minetest hi
13:46 Krock hi
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13:59 coagen played minetest with my kid last night, that was lots of fun, just used bdcraft and the config from carbone, no mods yet
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14:02 * PenguinDad wonders how to play without mods
14:05 SylvieLorxu PenguinDad: 1. Download Minetest; 2. Install Minetest; 3. Start Minetest
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14:05 coagen PenguinDad: your favorites?
14:05 SylvieLorxu It's actually pretty simple
14:05 kaeza mornings
14:06 PenguinDad SylvieLorxu: Every node in minetest is added by a mod
14:06 SylvieLorxu PenguinDad: ...Err?
14:07 PenguinDad https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest_game/tree/master/mods
14:07 Krock PenguinDad, rubbish. there are nodes which do not need a mod
14:07 CraigyDavi What about air
14:07 kaeza except air and ignore
14:07 Krock ^
14:07 kaeza every other node is from a mod
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14:08 CraigyDavi there's also mapgen_stone mapgen_dirt ect.
14:08 Krock that are just aliasses
14:08 kaeza ^
14:08 Krock they don't exist
14:08 CraigyDavi Ok
14:09 coagen PenguinDad: I should mention the reason I didn't use mods, was because my testing with sfan5 64bit windows build and carbone shit allover itself... and carbone didn't seem to work with 0.4.9
14:17 Krock carbon works with 0.4.9-dev
14:17 Krock +e
14:17 coagen PenguinDad: also, if I understand correctly, all of those mods you listed are included with the minetest_game by default, so they are not really mods in a sense that you do not have to add them or put them in the /mods folder... amirite?
14:19 coagen Krock: it crashed on me... :| maybe I should have not used sfan5s build? are there other winblows git builds?
14:20 Krock coagen, blockmen also provides x64 builds - myself, I only offer x86
14:21 Krock it also could be a programming fail in the codes
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14:28 coagen cool, I'll try blockmen's build, thx
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14:38 nman3600 Krock, Your server is buggy
14:39 john_minetest woah, there are too many nyan cats in carbone
14:46 LemonLake there are too many carbones in carbone
14:50 nman3600 lol
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14:52 john_minetest Well
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14:53 john_minetest I tried some games now
14:53 john_minetest Some got nice textures but the rest is as usual or not as good.
14:54 john_minetest nodetest, for example, works pretty well. It feels very good and the textures look good. I didn't check out all the gameplay changes yet.
14:55 Amaz Did you try Lord of the Test?
14:55 john_minetest not yet
14:56 john_minetest I tried carbone and it had too many nyan cats and an ugly bones texture.
14:56 john_minetest "One game to rule them all"
14:56 Amaz :-)
14:56 Amaz Not my saying!
14:57 john_minetest :D
15:00 sfan5 http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/​questions/31836/random-script-that​-isnt-actually-random#answer-31856 :D
15:01 john_minetest Heh, Lord of the Test is nice
15:01 Amaz :-)
15:03 Hirato sfan5: not nearly as funny as this https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61095
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15:47 sapier does anyone online have a galaxy S+? ;-)
15:50 john_minetest Minetest forums: Total posts 135392 • Total topics 8800 • Total members 10294
15:55 sfan5 john_minetest: http://5.231.56.127/forumstats.html
16:00 twoelk mmmh I like them graph sliders
16:01 john_minetest Look at this awesome, legit graph about the average dumbness of people: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uuCs1eLsE_sS.png
16:04 john_minetest The Professor's name is the wrong way round though, it is actually "Torey Hiss".
16:05 john_minetest And it got a banana for scale. Every serious scientific publication has a banana for scale.
16:06 twoelk now I wonder what specs he used to measure dumbness ;-)
16:07 john_minetest Well, look, it got arrows on the axes. And it tells you that the scale is logarithmic. Isn't that enough?
16:07 john_minetest Most publications are worse than that.
16:07 john_minetest And have no banana for scale.
16:07 twoelk I rather was wondering how he got the values
16:08 Megaf Hi all
16:09 Megaf LazyJ; Hey there, I'm quite proud of gold, I've been following him since his begining in minetest or at least in my server, he did great progress
16:09 john_minetest I guess that the standard methods were used.
16:10 john_minetest As specified in Professor Hiss' previous publications.
16:10 twoelk the thing is of all the buildings built in any age, only the well built survive. All the crap just crumbled. So maybe of the ancients only the smart stuff was documented? While most of the dumb stuff of all ages was forgoten?
16:11 john_minetest The antique greeks knew, that the world was round.
16:11 john_minetest It was pretty much forgotten in the middle age.
16:11 twoelk probably they where the geeks of their time
16:11 john_minetest g(r)eeks? :D
16:13 twoelk although idf you study the greeks as a whole system, they did have some queer thoughts about how the world is built and run
16:13 john_minetest Well, it is a fact that the documentation of knowledge has changed. Once, the clever people published stuff. In the middle age, only the arabians knew stuff. But the dumbness was spread everywhere. And then the technics advanced.
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16:14 john_minetest And then the internet came and every person has the possibility to spread his or her own dumbness over the internet and conceal the people who are actually clever,much cleverer than they were ever before.
16:16 john_minetest Let me note that down as a possible topic for my dissertation. "The impact of aviability of worldwide, interactive media on the perception of dumbness"
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16:18 twoelk legend has it there once was this sultan who conquered Kairo ... well lets keep it more generall ... so this general conquered this city and his soldiers found some wise books and they asked him what to do with them. He said if they differ from his religious book he lived by then burn them. If they agree with his religious guidebook, then they are useless and should likewise burn.
16:20 twoelk you can take such a topic? I thought you were of to study something else
16:28 john_minetest I am studying computer science.
16:29 john_minetest But the internet is a worldwide, interactive network... Hmmm...
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16:30 Jordach TIL an nVidia GTX 550 BFG fits in my tower
16:31 Jordach s/550/560
16:36 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
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16:42 asl !tell Calinou the gitorious link on https://github.com/Calinou/carbone is broken, i email gitorious about it cause it seem the problem is with the redirect on their side, but you should update the link too
16:42 MinetestBot asl: I'll pass that on when Calinou is around
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17:07 twoelk sfan5: could you make a list similar to the one looking for missing licenses in the mods topic that makes a list of all the webspace services used to host files in the forum? So that maybe we get an idea of what is in danger once Ubuntu-one is gone for good for example (a list who to notify might be good)
17:07 sfan5 yes
17:07 sfan5 I could
17:07 sfan5 but I don't want to do that right now
17:08 twoelk might be usefull befor it is too late
17:08 twoelk you got until July 30th :-D
17:21 coagen sfan5: been reading link you posted, about random not being random, thats quite entertaining reading thx
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17:32 Krock diemartin, wut happend with postID 9603?
17:32 diemartin Krock, you mean hampa's post?
17:32 Krock exactly.
17:33 diemartin someone trashed it
17:33 Krock :(
17:33 Krock I loved it!
17:33 Krock blame, moderators!
17:35 Calinou does anyone use wood facedir?
17:35 Calinou or brick
17:35 Calinou (it's in More Blocks and Carbone)
17:35 diemartin I always disable it
17:36 diemartin makes it hard to build nice houses :(
17:37 coagen So, if all I wanted to do was take a general sword texture and change the color a little bit... I could just find one of the sword textures in the source and open it in gimp?
17:37 diemartin how about making it use facedir, but placing it always in the same direction in on_place/whatever?
17:37 coagen what is the file format/extension I should be looking for if it is that simple...
17:37 diemartin (so players that really want facedir can use the screwdriver to rotate)
17:39 diemartin coagen, find games/yourgame -type f -name '*sword*.png'
17:39 diemartin (does that even work?)
17:39 Calinou <diemartin> how about making it use facedir, but placing it always in the same direction in on_place/whatever?
17:39 Calinou bad for prediction :'(
17:40 Calinou client would see it rotated, then un-rotated by the server
17:40 Calinou except if I use a different node for prediction, that never rotates, but then you're duplicating node definitions
17:40 * coagen goes to git clone the source
17:40 Calinou .png is supported and is prefered, but you can use .jpg, .tga, .pcx… too
17:40 Calinou anything Irrlicht supports
17:41 diemartin lol .pcx
17:41 diemartin actually, still better than .bmp
17:41 coagen basically all I want to do is make a new sword by changing the color, yay... if all goes well I may continue with other crazy ideas!
17:43 diemartin if you feel crazy, try creating multiple swords via compositing/stencil in-game :D
17:43 coagen just to clarify, textures are in minetest_game? or in minetest or both?
17:43 diemartin (see how signs_lib makes colored text)
17:43 Krock see my speedtest! http://www.speedtest.net/result/400000000.png </joke>
17:44 coagen diemartin: that sounds cool, not sure what it means tho, sorry its above my skill level atm... maybe...
17:45 coagen http://www.speedtest.net/result/3590078228.png
17:45 coagen hehehe
17:45 Calinou diemartin, .pcx is often used by Quake 2
17:46 Krock coagen, WTF?
17:47 coagen Krock: I got mad internets yo ;)
17:47 Krock ..
17:47 Krock GRADE: A+++++
17:49 coagen Krock: this is why I'm thinking about running a server :D
17:49 Krock coagen, you can run a server with 1000 times worse results
17:50 diemartin http://www.speedtest.net/result/3590088542.png
17:50 diemartin >:(
17:50 * sfan5 laught at diemartin
17:50 sfan5 laughs*
17:51 Krock win against kaeza and lost against coagen http://www.speedtest.net/result/3590068122.png
17:51 coagen if anyone has faster than mine, I will bow in awe
17:52 Krock anyone?
17:52 Krock c'mon I want coagen see bow in awe
17:52 coagen if you guys need some vm hosting, I can get it going... but it costs $$$$$....
17:52 coagen just btw and all
17:53 Calinou what if it costs €€€€€ instead?
17:53 coagen Calinou: hah, I'm sure it can be converted
17:53 Krock £££££
17:53 * sfan5 throws Yen at Calinou
17:54 PenguinDad ¥¥¥¥¥
17:54 Krock CHF has no symbol :(
17:54 coagen so, looking at mintest_game source, I found the png imgs for the swords, but just learned there is diamon, and bronze, how do you even make those
17:54 diemartin there's no bitcoin symbol in unicode :(
17:54 diemartin s/bit/doge/
17:55 coagen DOGE!!!
17:55 Krock !doge
17:55 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
17:55 coagen Ð
17:55 PenguinDad ÐÐÐÐÐ
17:55 sfan5 diemartin: ƉƉƉƉƉƉ
17:55 sfan5 http://www.speedtest.net/result/3590096680.png
17:55 diemartin oh that one
17:57 diemartin D:
17:58 coagen another fun question, so to understand how the png img is rendered in minetest, do I understand correctly that minetest just basically enlarges and makes 3D this tiny png img?
17:58 sfan5 minetest does not enlarge anything
17:59 sfan5 it is enlargened by the GPU while rendering
17:59 coagen so it will do that with anything with a transparent background amirite??
17:59 sfan5 yes
17:59 sfan5 if you specify use_image_alpha = true
17:59 coagen fascinating
17:59 sfan5 otherwise it will not use the full alpha
18:00 coagen ? sorry, laymans terms plz?
18:00 sfan5 (1 bit alpha, transparent or solid)
18:01 coagen hrm, that has to go in minetest.conf
18:01 sfan5 if the mod/game does not specifc some attribute the transparency will only be transparent or solid (instead of 256 levels of transparency)
18:01 sfan5 not minetest.conf
18:01 coagen ah
18:01 coagen ok thx
18:04 john_minetest $€££
18:06 coagen actually I think the diamond sword is the color I want to use already
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18:11 john_minetest Diamond sword? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2RaehsIbkU
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18:14 Calinou More Blocks: Code cleanup. Add tar and more stone types.
18:16 Calinou tar is made by smelting gravel
18:17 coagen I like the bdcraft textures, but they are missing diamond and mese swords, and the license says no derivatives. lame :|
18:19 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix wrong status text rectangle. Fix for #1412 ed2c8ba 2014-06-27T20:16:37+02:00 http://git.io/IKZuMA
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18:22 RealBadAngel sfan5, can you check just to be sure if it works for you? bug was obvious, but still :)
18:22 sfan5 ok
18:24 RealBadAngel coagen, i saw on forums topic with updated bdcraft by some1
18:24 RealBadAngel he claimed that he added some textures
18:24 sfan5 Calinou: I just reproduces the segfault you had with carbone
18:24 sfan5 redproduced*
18:25 RealBadAngel sfan5, any details on that? i tried and couldnt
18:25 sfan5 zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  ./minetest
18:25 sfan5 0x000000000064a065 in GenericCAO::step(float, ClientEnvironment*) ()
18:25 coagen RealBadAngel: hrm, I will search for it, fuck the license i guess...
18:26 sfan5 brb, recompiling debug build
18:27 RealBadAngel coagen, can you use shaders?
18:28 RealBadAngel if so, i suggest for bdcraft adding that line to config: normalmaps_smooth = 2
18:28 RealBadAngel and enabling bumpmapping and generate normals
18:28 coagen RealBadAngel: cool, will try it now
18:29 RealBadAngel cartoonish TPs look quite nice with normals generation IMHO
18:29 diemartin <Calinou> tar is made by smelting gravel
18:29 diemartin yay more uses for gravel
18:30 diemartin dirt and gravel is ignored by everyone :(
18:30 diemartin are*
18:31 coagen !ignore gravel@
18:31 coagen heh
18:32 coagen RealBadAngel: hey so I tried that, did not quite notice the difference, is there something I should be looking for?
18:32 sfan5 RealBadAngel: http://sprunge.us/IYKB
18:34 coagen hey I found this nice list of textures from 2 yrs ago, but no links even, wtf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1341
18:35 coagen oh
18:35 RealBadAngel coagen, can you make a screenshot?
18:35 coagen there is something diff about the way 0.3.x and 0.4.x handles textures right?
18:35 coagen RealBadAngel: yeah just a sec
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18:36 Rhy5 Hi :)
18:37 coagen RealBadAngel: I'm adding it in minetest.conf... I get the feeling that might the wrong place?
18:37 Rhy5 Where is Microchip - he was on IRC at Zeno's..
18:38 Rhy5 Well, guys, I'm working on a game, here are a few links to the progress and plan:
18:38 Rhy5 http://www.filedropper.com/things - Images of game.
18:38 Rhy5 http://imgur.com/fZpYXEK - Image of plan.
18:38 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/RX2BUjh.png vs http://i.imgur.com/LEzebiX.png
18:38 RealBadAngel coagen, left with shaders, right without
18:38 Rhy5 RBA: Sphax BDcraft?
18:39 coagen RealBadAngel: ah! I see now thx!
18:39 RealBadAngel Rhy5, yes
18:39 Rhy5 I thought so, I might be starting on converting a few texture packs.
18:40 Rhy5 In mind, I have Plastic Texture Pack and DokuCraft.
18:40 RealBadAngel DokuCraft is converted
18:40 Rhy5 Is it?
18:41 RealBadAngel https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=5823
18:42 RealBadAngel propably it is outdated, but there it is
18:42 Rhy5 Ah, yes, I remember checking that out before.
18:43 coagen 14:42:44: ERROR[main]: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd of player "screenshot_3734848639.png" not found
18:43 coagen ?
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18:43 diemartin wat
18:43 diemartin did you put a screenshot in your players directory? ·_·
18:44 coagen hah
18:44 coagen yes
18:44 coagen was editing the singleplayer file
18:44 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix GenericCAO fails to grabing member animated mesh node to prevent it do be deleted to early f383766 2014-06-27T20:42:20+02:00 http://git.io/j6iyJg
18:44 Krock loll https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=146425#p146425
18:44 Krock & post under
18:44 Calinou hi Rhy5, long time no see
18:45 Calinou Rhy5, Carbone is quite advanced currently
18:45 Rhy5 Calinou: Indeed so :)
18:45 Calinou ugh, “Craft” suffix
18:45 Krock <Rhy5>Where is Microchip - he was on IRC at Zeno's..
18:45 Krock irc.inchra.net
18:47 Rhy5 Ah thanks Krock
18:47 Krock <RealBadAngel>http://i.imgur.com/RX2BUjh.png vs http://i.imgur.com/LEzebiX.png
18:47 Krock looks amazing :)
18:47 Krock (1st image)
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18:49 Rhy5 Random - how do you do those Quit messages?
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18:50 Rhy5 EvergreenTree: Hi :)
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18:50 EvergreenTree hi
18:51 Rhy5 EvergreenTree: How are you? :)
18:51 Rhy5 VanessaE: Hey!
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18:51 EvergreenTree Good
18:51 EvergreenTree Sick
18:52 Rhy5 EvergreenTree: Your not the only one ;P
18:53 RealBadAngel ah btw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZV99d-XuVg
18:53 RealBadAngel video on "Tanks" progress
18:54 Rhy5 RealBadAngel: Woah, that's cool!
18:55 EvergreenTree RealBadAngel: Wow
18:55 Rhy5 I can only mod nodes and items - You've just gone up ten levels, nice work!
18:57 RealBadAngel Rhy5, this vid is on the drawtype, not the mod
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18:57 RealBadAngel what you can see are just samples on what can be done using it
18:57 Rhy5 RealBadAngel: Oh, right. But it's still really amazing :)
18:58 RealBadAngel but actually some nodes out of it are already reserved, plasma lamp will be aviable in Homedecor mod
19:01 RealBadAngel and tanks will be aviable in Pipeworks and in ThaumCraft remake project
19:02 diemartin tank god</lame-pun>
19:03 RealBadAngel lol
19:03 RealBadAngel brb
19:09 VanessaE hi all
19:10 Krock !tell Rhy5 PosReady workaround
19:10 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Rhy5 is around
19:13 diemartin hey V
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19:14 Krock Death of windows XP will be in 2019
19:14 CraigyDavi How so?
19:15 sfan5 Krock: pos ready workaround is not a good idea
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19:15 Krock sfan5, well, until now it worked and that system works on windows xp-base
19:16 sfan5 any update might breaks shit
19:16 sfan5 -s
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19:16 Rhy5 Hello everybody! :)
19:17 coagen Does minetest work on ReactOS? Vladimir Putin wants to know...
19:17 Krock sfan5, minetestbot is broken
19:17 CraigyDavi Hi Rhy5
19:17 Krock coagen, try it. I wonder, too :)
19:17 Rhy5 Hi Craig.
19:18 sfan5 Krock: broken?
19:18 Krock sfan5, I used !tell and it didn't tell
19:18 Rhy5 !tell Krock
19:18 MinetestBot Rhy5: ...and text
19:18 Rhy5 ^^
19:18 MinetestBot Rhy5: 06-27 19:10 UTC <Krock> PosReady workaround
19:18 Krock now.
19:18 sfan5 tell is a bit broken
19:18 Krock good, at least it works after awhile chatting :)
19:18 john_minetest wilhelm tell!
19:18 Rhy5 Hello john_minetest
19:19 Rhy5 :)
19:19 Krock isn't it Willhelm Tell?
19:19 sfan5 Krock: no, I just reloaded the module
19:19 Krock sfan5, ah koay
19:19 john_minetest when wilhelm joins, he will get SO many messages...
19:20 john_minetest Because of all the old:
19:20 john_minetest !tell wilhelm !tell
19:20 MinetestBot john_minetest: I'll pass that on when wilhelm is around
19:20 Krock - Nickname is already in use. (wilhelm)
19:20 Krock o.o
19:22 Rhy5 !tell Rhys Awesome
19:22 MinetestBot Rhy5: I'll pass that on when Rhys is around
19:22 Rhy5 And Rhys won't be around because he is a timed out client <.<
19:23 Rhys howdy MinetestBot
19:23 MinetestBot Rhys: 06-27 19:22 UTC <Rhy5> Awesome
19:24 Guest71234 Meh.
19:24 VanessaE hey Rhy5
19:24 MinetestBot VanessaE: 06-25 15:19 UTC <Jordach> add more kitchen tile variants
19:24 * VanessaE kicks Jordach  :P
19:24 MinetestBot VanessaE: 06-25 16:05 UTC <Jordach> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G-RHXHIdKIMn.png
19:25 Rhy5 VanessaE: Hi :)
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19:58 VanessaE kaeza: fix your timestamps in xban
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20:23 coagen so how do I change the render distance?
20:23 john_minetest https://cdn.mediacru.sh/iI7BbrJ_Y96L.png
20:23 john_minetest coagen: In minetest?
20:24 coagen yes sir
20:24 john_minetest coagen: Use the + and - keys. You can switch between full render distance and limited with "r"
20:24 john_minetest + and - only affect the limited render distance view.
20:25 coagen john_minetest: thx
20:26 coagen are mese and diamonds created in the default v6 worlds?
20:28 VanessaE yes
20:29 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvpWxYLntA
20:30 coagen VanessaE: can't seem to find any, been searching for an hour at various depths, including -100, maybe they're just really rare
20:30 VanessaE you gotta go much deeper
20:30 VanessaE I think mese starts at -128
20:30 VanessaE mese blocks start at -1024
20:30 VanessaE I forget where diamond starts
20:30 coagen VanessaE: wow ok thx
20:31 twoelk add a zero to find rainbow caves
20:31 twoelk or two
20:32 Calinou how to craft black/green dye legit?
20:32 MinetestBot Calinou: 06-27 16:42 UTC <asl> the gitorious link on https://github.com/Calinou/carbone is broken, i email gitorious about it cause it seem the problem is with the redirect on their side, but you should update the link too
20:32 * Calinou wants to have all 15 paintings in a house :D
20:33 twoelk coal and cactus?
20:33 Calinou nope
20:34 RealBadAngel VanessaE, how about the last vid?
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20:36 VanessaE I mentioned
20:37 VanessaE er
20:37 coagen how do I destroy an item in inventory, and how to enable noclip?
20:37 VanessaE I responded in -dev :)
20:37 VanessaE coagen:  noclip is server-dependent
20:37 VanessaE and to destroy an item  /pulverize while you're wielding it.
20:37 coagen VanessaE: I'm just messing around in singleplayer
20:37 VanessaE in that case, press h
20:37 VanessaE /grant singleplayer all
20:37 coagen ah, thx
20:38 VanessaE then use h to toggle it on/off
20:38 coagen right, did that
20:38 coagen awesome
20:38 coagen thx
20:39 Amaz RealBadAngel, wow.
20:41 * twoelk just learned that Carbone does not use Unified Dyes
20:41 Calinou found how to make green
20:41 Calinou (yellow + blue :P)
20:42 twoelk ah, I remeber happy colorfull days at school
20:42 twoelk *remember
20:45 RealBadAngel Calinou, not really imho
20:45 kaeza VanessaE, hm?
20:45 RealBadAngel http://www.sapdesignguild.org/g​oodies/glossary_color/index.htm
20:48 RealBadAngel Calinou, or maybe youre right: http://www.dzieciecafizyka.pl/eks​perymenty/mieszaniekolorow/16.jpg
20:49 VanessaE kaeza: xban_record gives the same timestamp for all xban records
20:50 VanessaE kaeza: try it for xaivanov on mtz-basic for example.
20:53 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2/comm​it/19d92df3bc219641de436994e9b21d1b200f10c8
20:54 VanessaE \o/
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20:59 Jordach oh god pepsi tastes like shit
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21:00 WindHero Coke > Pepsi
21:00 Jordach finally
21:00 Jordach also: hyperdrive got evcirated by rain
21:00 Jordach in Terraria: everything; including the weather will kill you
21:01 WindHero :o
21:01 WindHero kinda harsh
21:01 WindHero but sounds up my alley
21:01 * WindHero likes difficult games
21:01 EvergreenTree try playing the warzone 2100 campaign all the way through
21:01 EvergreenTree :3
21:02 WindHero (no joke, in the first Mega Man, I can beat five stages before getting my first game over)
21:02 EvergreenTree WindHero: That's impressive
21:02 EvergreenTree I'm meh at micromanaging, but I like warzone
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21:02 Calinou 0AD, micromanaging since 2010
21:03 EvergreenTree warzone has been around since the ps1
21:03 EvergreenTree I might try 0ad though
21:05 kaeza <WindHero> (no joke, in the first Mega Man, I can beat five stages before getting my first game over)
21:05 kaeza which ones?
21:06 kaeza Ice Man is a bitch BTW
21:06 coagen looking for the license on minetoon textures... hrm
21:06 EvergreenTree I really want an NES
21:06 EvergreenTree improve my gaming skills
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21:07 * kaeza has a cheap-o-matic NES knockoff
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21:09 kaeza with 800 "built in" games (out of which ~15 are legit ones, others are just hacks)
21:10 EvergreenTree ah
21:10 kaeza it's only missing the power source :( (which you can't find any good ones now)
21:11 kaeza EvergreenTree, 5BTC and it's yours :3
21:12 EvergreenTree kaeza: nope.  :P
21:21 Jordach_ bleh
21:21 Jordach_ client died :3
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21:23 * Calinou throws a blue soccer ball in the room
21:24 Jordach we need to have a round of minetest football
21:25 Jordach 5v5
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21:25 john_minetest Jordach: server?
21:26 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:26 Jordach john_minetest, i'm thinking out loud
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21:26 Jordach we need coloured teams :3
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21:26 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a _______<o'''o>___/__/_/__/
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21:26 john_minetest That's a cephalopod.
21:26 Calinou <coagen> looking for the license on minetoon textures... hrm
21:26 Calinou CC BY-NC-ND
21:27 * sfan5 gives john_minetest a kitten
21:27 Calinou Gambit is an awesome licensor.
21:27 Calinou (sarcasm)
21:27 sfan5 NC is not bad
21:27 Calinou no, really, he's the typical “professional artist”
21:27 Calinou it really is
21:27 coagen Calinou: thanks! just found it as well ;)
21:27 sfan5 but ND is (mostly)
21:27 * john_minetest pets the kitten
21:27 Calinou preventing commercial use can have unthought side effects
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21:27 Calinou it's not just about “selling the thing without changing it”
21:27 Calinou (if you do that, your thing will probably not be purchased anyway)
21:29 blaise 0.4.10 eh?
21:30 Jordach fail
21:30 john_minetest nice
21:30 john_minetest thx :P
21:30 blaise lol
21:30 john_minetest noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
21:30 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | The next version is 0.4.10, not 0.5.0 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | No unaut
21:30 m5 I've had about 5 different ips in the last 10 mins
21:30 john_minetest This is blasphemy!
21:30 john_minetest This is madness!
21:30 m5 Stupid BT
21:30 Jordach m5, i get it sometimes
21:30 * blaise stuffs john_minetest into the hine end of a massive rubber chicken
21:30 m5 But they have to choose a better fucking time to fuck with my ip
21:31 m5 Setting up a DMZ
21:31 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | The next version is 0.4.10, not 0.5.0 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | No bots.
21:31 Calinou unaut?
21:31 Jordach better. OCD killing me
21:31 Calinou m5, DMZ is very unsecure
21:31 Calinou consider forwarding a bunch of ports instead
21:31 * blaise feeds said rubber chicken to MinetestBot
21:31 * Jordach purrs at sfan5
21:31 m5 Nah, linux got the firewall
21:31 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:31 m5 Not that shitty hub
21:31 Jordach sfan5, getting an nVidia GTX 560 BFG ed!
21:31 sfan5 BFG?
21:31 sfan5 !op
21:32 blaise nvidia is the devil
21:32 CraigyDavi bye asimov
21:32 blaise so is microsofft
21:32 blaise and systemd
21:32 Calinou this kind of bfg, sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bGxpjGLiRqUF.jpg
21:32 Jordach sfan5, special edition with more juice than the normal card
21:32 Jordach basically a TiTi
21:32 sfan5 ooh
21:32 Jordach and that thing nearly doesn't fit in my case
21:32 sfan5 blaise: M$ < nvidia < systemd
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21:33 blaise I'm pretty impressed with the high end R9's AMD is putting out
21:34 kaeza >sister's husband b0rked W7 install >took opportunity to show off Ubuntu >liked it
21:34 Jordach AMD allows their OSS driver, nVidia doesn't
21:34 Calinou m5, I remember when you wanted to play OpenArena… you never joined the server :(
21:35 blaise lol
21:35 Jordach blaise, the APU 7800k has an R7/9 compressed into it#
21:35 * Calinou built a house with a friend in Minetest: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kuWH9N-hyz2p.jpg
21:35 blaise I'll play..
21:35 Jordach Calinou, +1 for the paintings having wrap around sides
21:36 blaise Jordach: yes, and if you put a r9 card into that machine with the APU it'll spank anything nvidia will have to offer for the next two years.
21:36 Calinou Jordach, looks realistic, but a bit buggy
21:36 Jordach Calinou, i got a method to cure that
21:36 Calinou did you recognize the paintings? :D
21:36 Jordach Calinou, nope
21:37 Calinou blaise, totally wrong
21:37 Calinou <Jordach> blaise, the APU 7800k has an R7/9 compressed into it#
21:37 Calinou a very castrated one
21:37 blaise Calinou: you play urbanterror or warsow ?
21:37 blaise warsow is pretty fricken awesome..
21:37 Jordach blaise, i'm fucking overdriving my APU
21:37 Calinou Warsow is cool indeed.
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21:37 Calinou UrbanTerror? I laughed when I saw their Git repository got cracked
21:37 blaise yeh, lmao
21:37 Calinou worst developers 2015
21:38 Calinou night
21:38 blaise Calinou: you going to sleep?
21:38 Calinou yes
21:38 twoelk Calinou: no windows? so much hate?
21:39 blaise Calinou: gn.. o/
21:39 Calinou there's glass behind, on the screenshot
21:39 Calinou thanks blaise
21:39 twoelk ah
21:39 blaise I like openarena
21:39 Jordach i hate arena games in general
21:39 EvergreenTree warsow is cool
21:39 Jordach CoD and the like basically ruined them
21:40 EvergreenTree and why might that be?
21:40 EvergreenTree don't let another game ruin others of the same genre
21:40 blaise m5: why did you stand Calinou up on some openarena ?
21:40 Jordach EvergreenTree, it's worse really
21:40 Jordach each revision just has bigger maps
21:40 kaeza CS 1.6 <3
21:40 Calinou I don't know, blaise, but he can play later if he wants
21:40 Jordach i want games like Heroes and Generals; where the maps are insanely large and allow degrees of freedom unmatched
21:41 Calinou not many players recently, especially on 0.8.8 servers (lots still run older versions, they're compatible but uglier)
21:41 Jordach not some > 100m^2 plae
21:41 Calinou <Jordach> i hate arena games in general
21:41 Calinou try ET:Legacy maybe
21:41 Jordach Calinou, i prefer RTS and large sandboxes
21:42 Jordach where i can build my own plan of attack (eg, HnG)
21:42 * twoelk loved RTS with long buildups
21:44 Jordach Age of Mythology was one of the best ever mae
21:44 Jordach so much balance
21:47 twoelk I spent most playing time with "Die Siedler 2,3,4" (The Settlers?)
21:47 twoelk and before that Ceasar from Sierra.
21:56 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Make GUITable mouse wheel scrolling faster 6ee0db6 2014-06-27T23:55:01+02:00 http://git.io/t4JXYQ
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22:04 EvergreenTree Hi PilzAdam
22:04 PilzAdam hai
22:33 m5 IRC would piss me off it it weren't for ZNC
22:33 m5 Fucking BT...
22:33 kaeza dat language
22:51 m5 I don't think topics should have dots...
22:55 john_minetest ...
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23:03 EvergreenTree https://github.com/4Evergreen4/quicksand
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23:04 EvergreenTree just a basic little thing I made
23:04 EvergreenTree I have a video of it as well
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23:05 kaeza EvergreenTree, nice
23:05 john_minetest https://mediacru.sh/KelNQSNW-obG
23:06 EvergreenTree It uses an interesting concept
23:06 EvergreenTree the sand is basically static liquid
23:06 EvergreenTree with a high viscosity
23:06 EvergreenTree which means you can "swim" out of it
23:06 EvergreenTree not sure how to prevent that
23:06 EvergreenTree you can drown in it as well
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23:12 WindHero interesting...
23:12 WindHero I remember this being discussed a while back o the forum
23:14 EvergreenTree Tenplus1 did the same thing with cobewebs
23:14 WindHero that sounds interesting, lol
23:14 WindHero except I doubt it had drowning capability
23:15 EvergreenTree no
23:15 EvergreenTree that is just an option
23:15 EvergreenTree https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9471
23:15 EvergreenTree that's the topic he made
23:17 WindHero neat
23:17 WindHero also, if anyone remembers the discussion I was having yesterday about mycena essence and glow mese crystal crafting
23:17 WindHero I think i came up with an acceptable recipe that isn't totally broken
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23:17 WindHero m = mese crystal fragment
23:18 WindHero e = mycena essence
23:18 WindHero mmm
23:18 WindHero mem
23:18 WindHero mmm
23:18 WindHero and glow mese can be crafted back into 8 fragments, losing the essence
23:19 WindHero so in effect, each crystal is 8/9 of a regular mese crystal
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23:33 WindHero There, small commit, hopefully I'll have a larger one later
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23:50 WindHero yow
23:50 WindHero I just looked at the core code for falling nodes for the first time
23:51 WindHero really wish it wasn't all core.*

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