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00:50 us_0gb Hello EvergreenTree!
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01:57 paramat hi Peacock, any progress in testing archipelago 0.2.0 in 049dev? i see you've started a world so you might possibly get a chopped-off snow biome when using archipelago 0.2.0 ;)
02:07 paramat theres another way i can do ice ... coastal ice close to the islands instead of vast ice sheets. perhaps i'll test that and make a map so you can see it
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02:14 hoodedice Any builders?
02:14 hoodedice "I can't find a 64-bit build, or even a native windows build. The windows builds are actually non-windows executables flagged as windows executables, then run through a compatibility layer, it seems, and it sort of sucks, because the game is really choppy for me.
02:14 hoodedice "http://www.punk-o-matic.net/smf/inde​x.php?topic=4899.msg192998#msg192998
02:15 hoodedice Is this true?
02:15 hoodedice "The windows builds are actually non-windows executables flagged as windows executables, then run through a compatibility layer" -This one.
02:23 hoodedice VanessaE, you on?
02:24 VanessaE hi
02:24 hoodedice Problem listed above. Kindly solve.
02:24 hoodedice Will be much appreciated
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02:41 VanessaE impossible to solve
02:41 VanessaE what he claims is bullshit
02:41 VanessaE and besides, I don't know shit about the Windows client :)
02:42 VanessaE but I do know it's not what is claimed
02:42 VanessaE it is in fact built FOR windows
02:43 VanessaE it's a native Windows program, and there IS a native win64 build available - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6745
02:43 VanessaE though his builds are outdated now :(
02:44 VanessaE if it's choppy it's because he doesn't have a good video driver installed, or he's using a build meant for opengl when he uses DX, or vice versa
02:44 VanessaE this needs a Windows expert to give a better answer, which O am not.
02:44 VanessaE I*
02:58 paramat please can anyone merge https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/960 ? it was agreed to by the 3 relevant devs earlier ... ShadowNinja?
02:59 hoodedice Thanks, Vam
02:59 hoodedice *Van
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03:00 hoodedice That's one awesome pull, para
03:00 ShadowNinja It conflicts, which means hard merging.
03:00 ShadowNinja I'll see if c55'll fix it.
03:00 hoodedice darn.
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03:01 hoodedice Shadow, did you see that claim about minetest win build being hacky?
03:02 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Yep, it's a native executable.
03:02 hoodedice Okay, thanks for the conformation
03:02 paramat okay thanks
03:03 hoodedice paramat, can you port PilzAdam's Nodetopia's mapgen to minetest_game
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03:07 ShadowX83 what mods should I pick up...I got animals_modpack
03:07 ShadowX83 what others are good to get
03:07 hoodedice For?
03:07 ShadowX83 I would preffer something like minecraft uses a bed to set a spawn point
03:07 ShadowX83 so I can actually build away from the spawn point
03:07 hoodedice We do have beds mods. And a loads of set spawns
03:08 ShadowX83 oh fantastic
03:08 ShadowX83 what one do you recomend?
03:08 hoodedice I dunno. I use Unified Inventory's set spawn.
03:09 hoodedice UI is a nice inventory replacement.
03:09 hoodedice With search and stuff
03:09 ShadowX83 kk I will check that one out
03:09 hoodedice Cool.
03:09 hoodedice !next
03:09 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
03:09 ShadowX83 oh I have that...where you can search and it has the crafting recipies in it
03:09 ShadowX83 like 6 pages or something like that
03:10 hoodedice Yes. Number of pages depend on how many mods you have\
03:10 hoodedice There should be a set_home in there.
03:10 ShadowX83 ah kk I have Technic-stable and it has it in there
03:10 hoodedice Yes, it ships with technic too =)
03:11 ShadowX83 awesome what other good mods are there?
03:11 ShadowX83 I also got the mesecons one and homedecor
03:11 hoodedice Loads.
03:11 ShadowX83 also one with like a trap door or something would be nice lol
03:12 hoodedice I have to go, sorry.
03:12 paramat H, Nodetopia uses mapgen v7 and the temporary mgv7 biome api
03:12 hoodedice Will get back someday
03:12 paramat o/
03:12 hoodedice Yes, para
03:12 ShadowX83 kk
03:12 hoodedice So I know, but?
03:13 hoodedice Current minetest has v7 too, so I just have to port over mapgen biome code, but with minetest_game blocks instead of custom_game_blocks
03:14 hmmmm biomes aren't going to depend only on temperature and humidity
03:15 hoodedice What else?
03:15 hmmmm i am going to add in a third one that just offsets temperature and has a very large spread value
03:15 hmmmm called "climate"
03:15 paramat cool
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03:15 hoodedice nice.
03:15 hmmmm hopefully this makes biome spread better clustered together yet not boring at the same time
03:16 ShadowX83 oh nice so it teleports you to home from the wherever you are
03:16 ShadowX83 thats sick
03:16 ShadowX83 This game just got so much better
03:16 hmmmm this way you won't have to rely on hardcoded climates, like the further you are in the X direction the higher the temperature on average (like some people have been doing)
03:17 ShadowX83 ok so is there a mod that adds structures to the game...so far the only one I have seen is the NPC trader hut
03:17 paramat ive been contemplating mapgen with variation on all 2^n scales
03:18 paramat ... many of those noises can be low-octave 2D to keep it lightweight
03:20 paramat i like your idea of sloping terrain off into the sea at the world edges. having an 'average terrain level' that is also varied over a large scale can turn mountain ranges into archipelagos
03:24 hmmmm the world edge idea was just an idea
03:24 hmmmm in practice, what you should be doing is just varying things by a very large-spread-factor 2d noise
03:26 hmmmm for these sorts of things where you want a constant gradient but random distribution, i think the best choice would be to create a new variant of noise that interpolates binary noise
03:27 hmmmm that is, the noise samples are either 0 or some other value, and the finished noise is just a linear interpolation between the points
03:28 ShadowX83 so how does the IRC chat mod work? pretty decent?
03:28 hoodedice It's not useful for single-player
03:28 paramat i would just make a noisy gradient, whats the advantage?
03:28 Enke ShadowX83: The IRC Chat mod works great for multiple servers linked together via chat.
03:28 ShadowX83 well I was just wondering if it connects me to this site?
03:28 ShadowX83 so I dont have to have both up lol
03:28 hoodedice Use xchat instead
03:28 hoodedice XD
03:29 hoodedice So climate will affect biome or the other way round?
03:29 hmmmm hmm maybe I'm not describing what I'm talking about good enough
03:30 hmmmm basically the terrain that'd be generated here if it were plotted as terrain would be a high point, a low point, and just a constant slope downward or upward connecting the points
03:30 paramat no problem :) my programming knowledge is much lower than people assume
03:30 hmmmm but this would never be used as terrain, only to modulate other noises
03:30 hoodedice yes.
03:30 paramat ah okay
03:31 hoodedice Okay. So what other noises exactly?
03:31 hoodedice I'm sorry, but I suck at getting to nderstand mapgens
03:31 hoodedice And weather and stuff
03:31 hmmmm by noisy gradient do you mean like last_point += ((random.next() % 3) - 1) or something?
03:31 paramat no, as on your LVM example
03:31 paramat (in)
03:32 hmmmm oh that's 3d noise
03:32 hmmmm i am talking about 2d
03:32 paramat oops yeah
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03:32 hoodedice I think I'll skip this discussion, and just see the results when they are out XP
03:33 paramat such a binary noise would be very lightweight ...
03:36 hmmmm hoodedice, noise is a continuous function f : R^n -> R
03:36 hoodedice Ah, functions. okay...
03:36 hmmmm but its result is dictated by random processes
03:37 hoodedice Okay,,,
03:37 hmmmm so if you were to graph a point (x, y) on a plane to the darkness of a color at that point, say, you'd get a picture that looks like this:  http://upload.wikimedia.org/​wikipedia/en/e/e5/Perlin.png
03:37 hoodedice Oh, so that's perlin!
03:38 hmmmm it's a continuous random function
03:39 hoodedice hmm. Continous and yet random. Won't that create discontinuity somewhere?
03:39 hmmmm each point is very discontinuous
03:40 hmmmm but those values are spread out on an integer lattice
03:40 us_0gb hoodedice: Not if implemented correctly, as it's only pseudorandom.
03:40 hmmmm the fractional pieces are filled in via some sort of interpolation
03:40 ShadowX83 has anyone tryed the nether mod? and how is it
03:40 hmmmm see src/noise.cpp for how it works
03:40 hoodedice I think I'll get back after Calculus 182, or maybe 241
03:40 us_0gb ShadowX83: The old one is terribly glitchy. If there's a new one, I haven't tried it.
03:41 ShadowX83 kk I think I will try the new one then
03:41 hoodedice hmmm, I'm NOT a programmer at the moment. I'm on my very first CIS course in my very first semester of college
03:41 hmmmm doesn't hurt to get your hands wet.
03:41 us_0gb The old one made a huge shaft to the bottom of the earth appear, even in the already-generated part of my map.
03:42 hmmmm it's not like you need to go to college to learn how to use your brain
03:42 hoodedice XD.
03:42 hmmmm programming is just a lot of logical thinking
03:42 hmmmm and it's a means to an end
03:42 hmmmm to get to the end you still need to be knowlegable in that subject
03:44 hoodedice I'm looking at the code...
03:44 hoodedice Okay, why is noise_x, y and z hard-coded?
03:45 hoodedice noise_magic_x etc
03:45 hmmmm those are hardcoded offsets
03:45 hmmmm to make the results still interesting for smaller x, y
03:46 hoodedice Do they have a lua extension?
03:46 hmmmm they can't be accessed in lua, but you don't need that at all
03:46 hmmmm just like you can't change the addend in some implementation of rand()
03:46 hmmmm it's just part of the randomness
03:46 hoodedice ok.
03:48 hoodedice I am getting something...
03:48 hoodedice That I should probably stay away from mapgens XD.
03:51 paramat hmmmm i misunderstood earlier sorry, i agree its better to have large scale 2D noise than any sort of 'gradient from north to south' or 'centre to edge'
03:53 ShadowX83 Hows the potion mod?
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04:00 paramat VanessaE, 'was my concern ever addressed about there being one "default, no mod needed" skybox?' no :)
04:00 VanessaE :(
04:01 hoodedice Last question: What's preventing a mac build?
04:01 VanessaE hoodedice: an active maintainer.
04:01 hoodedice What if I have access to a mac and can get builds?
04:01 hoodedice Is there nothing extra that needs to be done with the code? Is compiling as straightforward as on linux?
04:02 paramat V, its a good idea though, one of many improvements for the future but i cant wait
04:06 hoodedice I killed the chat. AGAIN.
04:08 hoodedice http://www.urbandictionary.co​m/define.php?term=chat%20kill
04:08 hoodedice (yay.)
04:10 paramat you didnt kill the silence though ;) dont worry
04:11 paramat to port nodetopia just change the nodes stated in the 'define_biome' statements to default nodes, and use mgv7
04:12 hoodedice Thank you para, much appreciated
04:13 paramat i noticed mushroomy adam is using the 8 biome system from paragen
04:14 hoodedice =)
04:15 hoodedice I just wanted mountains and forest and oceans, and... stuff
04:16 paramat mgv7 will have optional large mountains in future AFAIK
04:17 hoodedice hmm
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04:19 ShadowX83 for some reason it wont let me run more blocks
04:29 VanessaE bbl
04:42 ShadowX83 how do I turn on Interlace Handling?
04:45 ShadowX83 anyone know?
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05:05 DavenIsWatching Who is building the airship?
05:11 DavenIsWatching http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
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05:29 DavenIsWatching does it work
05:56 ShadowX83 whats up?
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06:20 stormchaser3000 hi
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06:36 foobar_ hiall
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06:37 foobar_ any way to compile the game on OSX?
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06:54 * Mati10 RealAngel ;) odezwij sie losiu :)
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07:00 Mati109 My location: Berlin, Niemcy
07:32 foobar_ anyone?
07:35 RealBadAngel search in forums
07:35 RealBadAngel some1 were doing mac ports
07:36 RealBadAngel so, yes it is possible
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07:58 foobar_ I saw only outdated version
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11:14 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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12:22 Slider_ Hi Guys, anyone hear ?
12:23 reactor ?
12:29 Slider_ today i get all the time the message on my ubuntu server "times out. List of players
12:30 Slider_ yesterday all was fine
12:30 Slider_ i have restart the server, but its still the same
12:50 sfan5 meow
12:50 sfan5 hi everyone
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12:58 EvergreenTree !rev !ydobyreve olleh
12:58 MinetestBot hello everybody!
12:59 EvergreenTree <3 MinetestBot
12:59 MinetestBot <3 EvergreenTree
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13:15 sfan5 why is ms access so shit?
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13:22 sfan5 seriously, why is ms access such a piece of shit?
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13:26 Slider_ is anyone online that can help me with a minetest server logon problem ?
13:26 * sfan5 can
13:27 Slider_ today i get the error on the server times out. List of players
13:27 Slider_ any idea why ?
13:27 Slider_ yesterday all works fine
13:27 Slider_ i have remove and reinstall it, but its still the same
13:27 sfan5 can you copy the exact error?
13:28 sfan5 can you copy the exact error?
13:28 Slider_ sure, sec..
13:29 Slider_ the error comes after some sec on logon
13:29 Slider_ 14:29:14: ACTION[ServerThread]: Slider times out. List of players:
13:30 sfan5 hm
13:30 sfan5 try running the server with --verbose
13:30 Slider_ its running on Ubuntu 12.10, both clients are on the same 0.4.9 version
13:30 Slider_ verbose --> http://pastebin.com/ctcvsEgp
13:32 sfan5 seems like a connection problem
13:32 sfan5 is a firewall (that is blocking traffic server -> client) running?
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13:34 Slider_ Not sure, its a vserver in a datacenter, but yesterday all was fine. i have change no firewall settings
13:35 sfan5 hm
13:35 Slider_ what this means ? --> 14:35:19: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(6/1): WARNING: Assuming unknown peer to be peer_id=2
13:36 sfan5 nothing important
13:38 Slider_ hmm
13:38 sfan5 it seems like traffic from the client -> server gets through, but not the other way around
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13:39 Slider_ can you try it?   server = sliderscloud.no-ip.biz port 30000
13:40 sfan5 !up sliderscloud.no-ip.biz
13:40 MinetestBot sliderscloud.no-ip.biz:30000 seems to be down
13:40 sfan5 MinetestBot can't connect either
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13:41 Slider_ hmmmm
13:43 Slider_ 14:40:41: VERBOSE[Connection]: con(6/1): RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 5.231.56.127:34245(t/o=3): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=65500
13:45 sfan5 that's MinetestBot's IP
13:45 Slider_ yes, but crasy that the BOT say down, and the server see the connection :-S
13:46 sfan5 MinetestBot probably didn't get a response from the server
13:46 Slider_ true possible :-(
13:46 sfan5 so server -> client traffic goes to /dev/null
13:50 Slider_ can i check anything on the server ?
13:50 sfan5 iptables rules.. hm
13:50 sfan5 restarting may also help
13:51 sfan5 WTF?! python gave me a decimal.InvalidOperation: Invalid literal for Decimal: u'' on a line that just contains a for foo in bar statement
13:52 Slider_ i have try so many restarts
13:54 Slider_ Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
13:54 Slider_ 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U         0 0          0 lo
13:54 Slider_ 0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U         0 0          0 venet0
13:54 Slider_ Looks fine
13:55 sfan5 mhm
13:57 sorcix I see you're using a virtual network device. It's possible that there is another firewall in the VM configuration.
13:59 Slider_ true, but this firewall will be setup from the datacenter, its a vserver,     and its crasy that it works yesterday fine :-(
14:01 Slider_ in Parallels it says, Firewall is not activ
14:01 VanessaE good morning.
14:01 sorcix Hmm..
14:02 pitriss one small thought.. Do you have any traffic limit? Provider of that VPS maybe cut you due higher traffic than allowed
14:02 pitriss morning VanessaE
14:03 sorcix pitriss: That wouldn't affect a single connection, right? As he can still see his logs, I suppose he can connect just fine.
14:03 Slider_ no, no limit, and all the recurces if the server are also fine HDD / RAM / CPU
14:04 pitriss sorcix: i think provider maybe blocked only outbound packets for that port.. And I think he can't connect to MT too..
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14:05 sorcix pitriss: Possible.
14:05 Slider_ which provider ? Client or Server ?
14:05 Slider_ i have also try to switch the Port, but still the same
14:08 Slider_ is there any page where i can download the default minetest.conf ?
14:10 sorcix Slider_: https://raw.github.com/minetest/min​etest/master/minetest.conf.example
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16:08 Jordach and i feel like shit again
16:09 reactor Jordach: it's perfect time to contribute your organs to Aperture Science Self Esteem Fund!
16:09 Jordach fuck that noise
16:10 reactor Also, I forgot to say "ehlo". So, ehlo.
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16:16 john_minetest Hello everypony
16:16 john_minetest And hi reactor
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16:25 sorcix reactor: lol
16:27 reactor john_minetest: Hello. But of course there are non-ponies beside me. You forgot to greet them.
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16:28 EvergreenTree !rev !olleh
16:28 MinetestBot hello!
16:28 john_minetest reactor: If there are non-ponies beside you they can tell me.
16:28 reactor Aight.
16:28 reactor How's the science then?
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16:29 john_minetest For science. You monster.
16:29 reactor You monster.
16:29 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k
16:30 EvergreenTree !title
16:30 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science - YouTube
16:32 reactor Nobody's gonna blind you.
16:32 reactor Well, if you say you want your eyes out, no problem, we'll work on that.
16:34 reactor All you need is a large electrolytic capacitor rated below  mains voltage, and mains.
16:34 reactor Good luck!
16:43 Jordach i see a Taoki in the forums
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16:46 john_minetest A wild TAKOI appears!
16:47 john_minetest dillilylilylylylyly! Dum dum dum - dum dum dum dum duuum!
16:47 john_minetest FIGHT!
16:47 john_minetest Pikachu, I choose you!
16:48 reactor Takoi?
16:49 reactor ТАКОЙ?
16:49 reactor Такой такой Такой!
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16:51 john_minetest nah
16:52 john_minetest й is too much j
16:52 reactor Then it's no fun.
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16:59 john_minetest No RISC no fun.
16:59 john_minetest Although you can also have fun with ARM or x86.
17:05 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/m6MQQmf.png
17:06 Jordach john_minetest, ^
17:08 john_minetest I haven't got xterm installed :P
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17:27 sfan5 Jordach: you forgot to launch xterm from your irc client
17:27 Jordach well fuck it
17:28 * Jordach whips out the C-NUS and hacks a client to do that
17:28 * sfan5 throws a yellow submarine at Jordach
17:28 Jordach fuck np
17:28 ShadowNinja I think there's a /shell command, or something like that.
17:28 Jordach LAUNCH THE NUKES :P
17:28 sfan5 !c os.execute('xterm')
17:28 MinetestBot NameError: name 'os' is not defined
17:29 Jordach * SHELL: Unknown command
17:33 * sfan5 throws a meow-in-a-glass at Jordach
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17:36 ShadowNinja It's /exec I beleive, but it sends output to channel if I read that correctly.
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17:37 ShadowNinja It also runs only scripts it seems, it can't find echo.
17:37 Jordach ShadowNinja, mind giving me a channel in inchra for a test
17:38 Jordach e^(pi*sqrt(-1)) = -1
17:38 Jordach plol
17:38 ShadowNinja Jordach: Sure.
17:39 ShadowNinja (Meaning no, I don't mind. :-) )
17:41 Jordach /join #testthisshit ;)
17:41 Jordach i was hoping bash $ yes would work :)
17:42 reactor BASH is dead.
17:42 Javafant zsh!
17:42 Jordach eewww, diet coke tastes like crap
17:42 sfan5 !c math.e^(math.pi*sqrt(-1))
17:42 MinetestBot NameError: name 'sqrt' is not defined
17:42 sfan5 !c math.e^(math.pi*math.sqrt(-1))
17:42 MinetestBot ValueError: math domain error
17:42 sfan5 !c math.e^(math.pi*math.sqrt(1))
17:42 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'float' and 'float'
17:43 sfan5 !c math.e**(math.pi*math.sqrt(1))
17:43 MinetestBot 23.140692632779263
17:43 ShadowNinja sfan5: -> #sometestchanneltotestminetestbot
17:43 Javafant ShadowNinja: math.sqrt(-1)
17:43 reactor Coke is only good if you have kidney stones and want to dissolve them.
17:43 Javafant ah *sfan5
17:43 sfan5 s/#[a-z]+/##minetestbot/
17:44 Jordach ! math.e**(math.pi*math.sqrt(-1))
17:44 Jordach !math.e**(math.pi*math.sqrt(-1))
17:44 Jordach hello :)
17:44 Jordach apparently does not compute is the responce :P
17:45 reactor Whatever happened to Rhoda the robot?
17:47 ShadowNinja ~eval __import__("math").e**(__import__("m​ath").pi*__import__("math").sqrt(1))
17:47 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 23.140692632779263
17:47 ShadowNinja :-)
17:48 sfan5 ~eval __import__('os').popen('uname -a').read()
17:48 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:48 sfan5 :-(
17:48 ShadowNinja Not public for obvious reasons.
17:49 ShadowNinja ~eval __import__('os').popen('uname -a').read()
17:49 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 'Linux vm.lmartin92.inchra.net 3.12.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 10 08:50:35 CET 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux\n'
17:49 Jordach ShadowNinja, change the sqrt to -1
17:49 ShadowNinja The hostname needs updating.
17:50 sorcix Jordach: You're right. Diet coke tastes like crap.
17:50 Jordach same for pepsi max
17:50 ShadowNinja Jordach: It throws an exception of course.
17:51 sorcix CrapDrinkException()
17:51 Jordach ShadowNinja, ask it to wolframalpha
17:51 reactor http://xkcd.com/327/
17:51 Jordach http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=e^%28pi*sqrt%28-1%29%29&lk=4&num=1
17:52 sorcix Oh, that link isn't clickable in irssi, it ends at the %.. ¬¬
17:52 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (2**c[0] % 0xf)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'lgk\x7f-"M/l"e(jkp|dl$22'))
17:52 MinetestBot NameError: name 'zip' is not defined
17:52 sfan5 damnit
17:52 ShadowNinja Yes, WA can figure it out, but python can't.
17:53 Jordach lol, python
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17:56 Jordach > print (2.718^(math.pi*math.sqrt(-1)))
17:56 Jordach -nan
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17:59 ShadowNinja ~eval ((__import__("math").atan(4 / (200 * 12)) / (2 * __import__("math").pi)) * 360) - (4 / (200 * 2 * 12 * __import__("math").pi) * 360)
17:59 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (2**c[0] % 0xf)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'Kmvl`al2!K${dg$qnw$dhia(lcp`'))
17:59 MinetestBot 'Jordach: I see you like math'
17:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: -8.841926546487855e-08
18:00 Jordach did you just code golf a sentance to me?
18:01 Jordach shame codegolf.com doesn't accept Lua for soloutions
18:01 Jordach i did one challenge in TWO lines of Lua
18:02 sorcix Jordach: Do people use LUA as a standalone language?
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18:03 Jordach sorcix, i've managed to write a basic 2D Terraria clone in it with Lovë2D
18:03 sorcix But Lovë2D is more than Lua. xP
18:03 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jo​rdach/da6b691fb3e9cbe54e4f
18:03 sfan5 Jordach: I just used advanced xor encryption(tm) [NSA certified] to present you a sentence
18:03 Jordach entire source
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18:06 Jordach http://sfan5.duckdns.org/uplo​ad/userdata/3/lovetestsrc.zip
18:07 Jordach also contains a 0.9.x binary if you're interested
18:07 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c[1]) ^ (int(math.sin(c[0])*10) % 0x1f)) for c in zip(xrange(9999), 'I(ehss=khprswe}o~wt!o}ntbwhgq56l`l`~s|g'))
18:07 MinetestBot 'I like mathematical functions, weeeeeee'
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18:11 reactor !rainbow I am useless.
18:11 MinetestBot 4I4 4a7m7 7u8s8e8l3e3s3s.
18:11 reactor oh. I forgot yo change colours
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18:12 reactor !rainbow Testing. One, two, three.
18:12 MinetestBot 4T4e4s7t7i7n8g8.8 3O3n3e, t6w6o6, th4r4e4e7.
18:12 reactor Only high-intensity ones?
18:12 SirDigby what happens if you eat stale bread?
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18:14 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=127859#p127859
18:14 * rubenwardy is fighting with the Android SDK again...
18:15 rubenwardy lol
18:15 Jordach can't get smooth scrolling in one dir, but it works the other way around
18:15 VanessaE rubenwardy: please tell me you're trying to make a legit minetest client.
18:15 rubenwardy nope
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18:16 rubenwardy Trying to make my own app
18:16 VanessaE damn.
18:16 Jordach S/a/f
18:16 Jordach S/app/fap *
18:17 VanessaE SirDigby: never eaten croutons on a salad? or stuffing at the holidays?  same thing really
18:17 VanessaE stale is just dried bread but still too much moisture.
18:17 rubenwardy swwry
18:22 reactor SirDigby: from indigestion to poisoning.
18:23 reactor ...if it's gotten spoiled.
18:23 SirDigby na
18:23 SirDigby it wasn't green
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18:23 reactor Did it taste weird?
18:25 * Jordach isn't reduxing old renders http://i.imgur.com/FVOXh1N.png
18:26 sfan5 >>> encrypt("NO")
18:26 sfan5 'IE'
18:26 sfan5 say no to Internet Explorer, the encryption way!
18:28 john_minetest Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/rzwFCBT.png
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18:32 Jordach sometimes, the Newgrounds Audio portal has some useful shit to do voice testing with (and they're Creative Commons!)
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18:34 Jordach (i'm going to try actually do some vocal testing with my models)
18:36 SirDigby Take a look at what I did this morning instead of real work : http://i.imgur.com/sPVufVT.png
18:37 sfan5 1080p moniter, can I haz?
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18:38 VanessaE 1080p?  feh.  dual 1600x1200's here.  4:3 the way G*d intended them to be.
18:39 Jordach lol 4:3
18:39 Jordach human vision is 16:9 VanessaE :)
18:39 VanessaE um, no.  it's more like 3:1 or some such actually
18:42 rubenwardy 3d modelling academy tomorrow
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18:44 john_minetest Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/v80z5Yr.jpg
18:46 specing VanessaE: damn, I was always afraid we'll have to unroll the screens sideways
18:47 specing sooon
18:47 specing 16:1 coming
18:51 Jordach ugh, having to make a set of phonemes for my blender model :)
18:53 VanessaE heh
18:53 Jordach we'll soon have automated talking
18:54 Jordach i was teasing some other Human model maker that my blender one was clearly superior
18:54 Jordach he might have had drivers for fingers - but i have simple mouth instructions :D
18:57 SirDigby I thought everyone had a 1080p monitor these days
18:59 specing I have a 16:10 laptop
18:59 specing Looking for an upgrade, but I'm not satisfied with neither the displays nor the keyboards
19:00 specing been looking at Lenovo T440s
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19:02 Jordach i'd rather buy something from China than the US
19:02 rubenwardy -> customer service
19:03 Jordach and?
19:03 Jordach desktops are cheap to fix
19:03 rubenwardy It's good to have it
19:03 Jordach rubenwardy, NSA Age
19:03 specing I was also looking at the Novena project, but it is ARM :(
19:04 Jordach Lenovo used to make the IBM desktops and laptops (iirc), and they're Chinese
19:05 Jordach i'm more surprised people aren't using Win16 for large banking ops, what's the chances of getting a virus on it?
19:05 reactor Дефект.
19:06 Jordach engrish
19:06 reactor Exarctry.
19:06 Jordach ah
19:17 Jordach >#minecraft >Taoki (~MirceaKit@93.113.162.37) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
19:17 Exio4 >jordach >minecraft
19:17 Jordach >Exio4 >minecraft
19:17 Jordach you're the one who can talk :)
19:18 Exio4 i started playing MC before i even knew about MT
19:18 Exio4 that is how i knew MT
19:18 ShadowNinja /MONITOR + Taoki
19:18 Exio4 some MC/MT player talked about it and told me about it :P
19:18 Exio4 it isn't a that old thing, iirc i said it before
19:18 Exio4 i have got the account as gift fwiw
19:19 Jordach i paid for it myself (because i'm bored of still development here)
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19:21 specing you could contribuut Jordach
19:22 specing Jordach: try freeminer, things are being done there
19:22 Exio4 >freeminer
19:23 specing >Exio4
19:23 Exio4 >specing
19:23 Exio4 >2014
19:24 sorcix So Minetest project is dead?
19:26 ShadowNinja Heh, nope.
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19:29 Exio4 it isn't, freeminer is the liberal fork
19:29 EvergreenTree joined #minetest
19:30 Exio4 well, i was going to make a joke about that but i think i will get permabanned when doing it :D
19:30 Exio4 s/doing/saying
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19:42 Jordach o hai oOChainLynxOo
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19:42 oOChainLynxOo Lol hey thar Jordach
19:42 EvergreenTree hewo ther oOChainLynxOo
19:43 oOChainLynxOo Hey Evergreen!
19:43 Jordach EvergreenTree, i just made my model stupidly capable of doing lip syncing
19:43 Jordach this http://www.garycmartin.com/phoneme_examples.html was the best help :D
19:44 MinetestBot <3 you Jordach
19:45 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, if only i had a copy of your skin, i'd be able to render it out
19:45 * Jordach pokes VanessaE
19:45 oOChainLynxOo I actually posted my skin to the database
19:45 Jordach oh, hold on
19:45 oOChainLynxOo I'll go fetch it for you
19:46 Jordach already doing it
19:46 EvergreenTree oOChainLynxOo, I might start posting some minetest videos
19:46 EvergreenTree now that I have a way of capturing them
19:46 EvergreenTree GLC to be exact
19:46 oOChainLynxOo EvergreenTree I would love to see some videos
19:46 EvergreenTree at 30fps
19:46 EvergreenTree in 720p
19:46 oOChainLynxOo Wow that's pretty good Evergreen
19:46 EvergreenTree I built a new computer a bit ago
19:47 EvergreenTree now it can do stuff like a beast
19:47 EvergreenTree Let me pull up the part list
19:47 specing I built a new computer a byte ago
19:47 specing its idle 24x7
19:47 EvergreenTree https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8373
19:48 EvergreenTree ^
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19:48 oOChainLynxOo Hey Inocudom!
19:48 EvergreenTree o/ Inocudom
19:48 Jordach bonus points oOChainLynxOo, your skin matches my template model exactly
19:49 oOChainLynxOo Awesome!
19:49 Inocudom Welcome, oOChainLynxOo. Welcome to the #minetest irc channel.
19:49 Inocudom I came here to ask RealBadAngel something. Is he around?
19:49 trauerlicht this must be really mysterious :)
19:50 EvergreenTree hm, RealBadAngel
19:50 oOChainLynxOo I haven't seen RealBadAngel
19:50 EvergreenTree yep, he is
19:50 * EvergreenTree throws a sapling at RealBadAngel
19:50 EvergreenTree Inocudom wanted to talk to you
19:50 Inocudom RealBadAngel's normal-map-generating patch could be included in Freeminer if certain conditions are met, says xyz.
19:51 specing EvergreenTree: can I get a link that doesen't require me to register?
19:51 Inocudom First, the request is mentioned here: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=127873#p127873
19:52 EvergreenTree okay, pcpartpicker link coming up
19:52 EvergreenTree specing, http://pcpartpicker.com/b/L5T
19:52 Inocudom RealBadAngel, the developers of Freeminer might be able to merge this patch into Freeminer. Will you still support this patch even if only Freeminer has it and Minetest never has it? Will you still improve on it if improvements need to be made?
19:53 specing Only 4GB RAM? I bought 16
19:53 EvergreenTree specing, it's enough for me
19:54 EvergreenTree going to throw in another set of the same kind
19:54 EvergreenTree at some point
19:54 specing 4 GB was enough 6 years ago when I bought this laptop
19:55 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo, would you be able to join the #freeminer channel too for a moment. I think it would mean a lot to the Freeminer game.
19:56 oOChainLynxOo Hang on let me see
19:56 Inocudom Just type /join #freeminer to join it. The #minetest irc channel will still be open in another tab of the chat program.
19:57 puhfa huh, thought i smelled desperate advertising and forcing coming from somewhere around here
19:57 puhfa nope, i guess it was the next channel
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19:58 Riffcrazyboy MinetestBot
19:59 Riffcrazyboy is there ##minetest or minetest offtopic
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19:59 EvergreenTree #minetest is offtopic
19:59 EvergreenTree #minetest-dev is on-topic
19:59 EvergreenTree (\ Calinou
20:00 ShadowNinja ^ But don't do too far...
20:00 Jordach ;)
20:00 Calinou hi
20:00 ShadowNinja s/do/go/
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20:08 EvergreenTree o/ PilzAdam
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20:09 Jordach imgur, y u so useless tonight
20:10 Jordach okay, lol
20:11 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, apparently you appear in google search
20:11 oOChainLynxOo What? The IRC?
20:12 Jordach youtube :)
20:12 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/ar​t/oOChainLynx-sOo-Skin-430635258
20:12 Jordach ^ btw, pumped out rneder
20:12 Jordach render*
20:12 EvergreenTree quality test:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ-ZZC2jLf0
20:13 oOChainLynxOo Jordach THAT IS AWESOME
20:13 EvergreenTree for some reason, it won't fit the screen unless in fulscreen mode
20:13 EvergreenTree Idk why
20:13 Jordach i've tried blending real life and mine/test/craft/
20:13 Riffcrazyboy oh dear
20:14 EvergreenTree oOChainLynxOo, do you have any idea why the video isn't fitting the video player?
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20:16 oOChainLynxOo EvergreenTree you need to resize Minetest to the size of your screen
20:16 EvergreenTree That's what I did
20:16 EvergreenTree it's 1280x1024
20:16 oOChainLynxOo Hmm. Try resizing to 1280x720
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20:16 EvergreenTree mkay
20:16 Jordach sounds right here
20:17 EvergreenTree I checked that off in the kdenlive rendering options
20:17 Jordach it needs to be 16:9 res, rather than 4:32
20:17 Jordach -2
20:17 EvergreenTree but it must not have done anything
20:17 EvergreenTree so what size should I do it at?
20:18 * oOChainLynxOo is afk
20:19 reactor щЫФЩШТЩ.
20:19 EvergreenTree what option is it in minetest.conf to change the window size?
20:20 EvergreenTree nvm
20:20 * Jordach slaps EvergreenTree with a oak sapling
20:22 * EvergreenTree slaps Jordach with a water bucket
20:22 * oOChainLynxOo is back and lols
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20:27 Jordach hold on a 'mo
20:28 PaLmeTTo_X Hello.....I have a question about servers......Can you create multiple  games on one server?
20:30 Inocudom Bye.
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20:32 EvergreenTree PaLmeTTo_X, yes, if you use different ports for each server
20:32 EvergreenTree the default being 30000
20:33 PaLmeTTo_X gotcha, so start up another minetest server instance using a different port #
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20:37 Jordach nom nom
20:37 Jordach ice cream + sore throat = ahhhh!
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20:42 Jordach boom
20:42 Jordach http://jordach.deviantart.com/art/oOC​hainLynxOo-I-must-continue-430641361
20:42 Jordach (bonus ping!)
20:44 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/JxyZWWK.jpg (don't ask)
20:44 Jordach LSD TRIP FTW
20:44 sfan5 no, that's not ldb
20:44 sfan5 lsd*
20:45 sfan5 that is using my terrible encryption as an rng and applying some gimp effect over it
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20:45 Jordach >terrible
20:46 Jordach i can't even understand it :)
20:47 sfan5 I just do thing one isn't supposed to
20:47 sfan5 as in 'using math.sin/cos/tan for something supposed to be secure'
20:48 sfan5 and it's terrible because this was the original image (before gimp effects): http://i.imgur.com/Pc33vcF.jpg
20:49 sfan5 don't even ask me how I got from that image to what I gave you first
20:51 * sfan5 throws the ARM7TDMI spec at Jordach
20:53 * Calinou hires sfan5 as nouveau developer
20:53 Calinou to replace the graphics corruption with prettier graphics corruption
20:54 * sfan5 throws '/dev/urandom > /dev/fb0' at cat
20:54 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article​&amp;item=nouveau_linux313_problems&amp;num=1
20:55 sfan5 TLDR pls
20:56 * sfan5 throws an ATtiny2313 at Jordach
20:56 Jordach :P
20:57 sfan5 do something with it
20:57 sfan5 how about you port minetest to it?
20:57 Jordach fuck that
20:57 Jordach i'd rather work on my PI VISR
20:57 sfan5 PI VISR?
20:57 Jordach think half occulus rift, half google glass
20:57 sfan5 \o/
20:57 sfan5 I can haz?
20:58 sfan5 plz with minetest integration
20:58 Jordach it runs Replicant :)
20:58 sfan5 replicant?
20:58 Jordach GNU's Android
20:58 sfan5 lol
20:58 Jordach no bloat; i've still not managed to port my tablet's HDMI to act as a control system
20:59 * sfan5 throws the HDMI documentation
21:00 Jordach i'm having to use a MicroUSB -> USB -> Bluetooth dongle just to connect them
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21:01 Jordach i do want to move my fingers in front of me to control it, VR style
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21:01 sfan5 use OpenCV maybe
21:01 sfan5 I heard it is good for such things
21:02 Jordach i might end up just using the Arch with the PI
21:04 EvergreenTree By george, I think I've got it!
21:04 EvergreenTree I got the resolution right
21:04 EvergreenTree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew​tv9C8-Stk&amp;feature=c4-overview&​amp;list=UU18k4nrKJJ9q4zH0uuldMcQ
21:04 EvergreenTree :D
21:04 Jordach oOChainLynxOo, ^^
21:05 oOChainLynxOo Sup Jordach
21:05 Jordach not much
21:05 EvergreenTree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew​tv9C8-Stk&amp;feature=c4-overview&​amp;list=UU18k4nrKJJ9q4zH0uuldMcQ
21:05 Jordach idling around thinking of doing more things in blender
21:05 EvergreenTree oOChainLynxOo, ^
21:05 EvergreenTree I got the resolution right
21:05 oOChainLynxOo Awesome EvergreenTree!
21:05 Jordach you did, well done
21:06 EvergreenTree It apparently caps the framerate at 30fps too
21:06 Jordach you might have rustled a few leaves in the process too :D
21:06 Jordach </pun>
21:06 EvergreenTree usually I get 50ish fps
21:06 EvergreenTree y u so punny
21:06 EvergreenTree anyway, I have to go now
21:06 EvergreenTree Cya guys later
21:07 * oOChainLynxOo is afk
21:08 Jordach you afk more than i do, that's saying something
21:08 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/INIbxSg.jpg
21:09 Jordach !tell EvergreenTree http://i.imgur.com/INIbxSg.jpg
21:09 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around
21:09 Jordach <3 you MinetestBot
21:09 MinetestBot <3 you too, Jordach
21:15 sfan5 "mprec.c:419: confused by earlier errors, bailing out" awesome, gcc; This is what I wanted
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21:16 Microchip Hello.
21:16 Microchip Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?
21:16 Exio4 what was kaeza's realname
21:17 Exio4 i don't remember
21:17 sfan5 Exio4: Diego
21:17 Exio4 thanks
21:17 Calinou yes
21:17 * oOChainLynxOo is back
21:17 Madprogrammi Hello chain.
21:18 Madprogrammi Can somebody tell me how to reduce the viewing distance on playerlabels on a server?
21:18 sfan5 Madprogrammi: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/master/minetest.conf.example#L272-273
21:18 Madprogrammi Thanks. I didn't think to look through minetest.conf.example.
21:19 Madprogrammi Then, how do you actually set a limit?
21:19 sfan5 dunno.. I think you can't set one
21:19 sfan5 but read the whole minetest.conf.example
21:19 Madprogrammi Allright.
21:19 Exio4 http://www.lucidchan.org/ph/src/129474312242.png
21:19 PilzAdam Madprogrammi, I dont know of any way to do that
21:20 Madprogrammi PilzAdam: Hm. Would be a nice feature for PvP servers.
21:20 PilzAdam Exio4, he seems happy
21:20 Exio4 much happy
21:21 Exio4 such doge
21:21 Exio4 wow
21:27 Madprogrammi Well I'm off. Bye, and thanks.
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21:44 PilzAdam bye
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22:20 Jordach this just fireballed; https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=127859#p127859
22:22 FreeFull "Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated."
22:23 ShadowNinja Jordach: Move that to "Minetest related projects".
22:23 ShadowNinja FreeFull: It's in offtopic, you need to log in.
22:23 Jordach FreeFull, try again
22:23 FreeFull Ok, I can see it now
22:24 Jordach notice the windows instructions are dumb as possible :)
22:24 Jordach anyways, i'm off to bed
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22:41 * RealBadAngel yawns. a big time ;)
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23:01 NakedFury https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly?utm_source=Hu​mble+Weekly+Sale+Newsletter&amp;utm_campaign=8210​7c4317-newsletter_codemasters&amp;utm_medium=emai​l&amp;utm_term=0_a406d06e11-82107c4317-108957521
23:01 NakedFury for those interested
23:01 NakedFury needs steam
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23:20 specing I played op flashpoint: resistance when I had windows
23:20 specing Was the only serious first person shooter I ever played
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