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00:12 dafull97 hey guys
00:12 us{0gb Hello!
00:13 VanessaE hi
00:14 Nocte Have you guys been scared lately btw? :|
00:14 VanessaE nope.
00:15 jojoa1997 kinda
00:15 jojoa1997 scared i destroyed my computer
00:15 Nocte Maybe I just have some elements of paranoia caused by Creepypasta. Hahaha.
00:15 us{0gb I have been scared, but for the state of the world, not myself.
00:15 jojoa1997 hi us{0gb / i cant make up my choice about what my name will be
00:16 us{0gb I have made up my mind. I have six registered names and I use them all.
00:16 jojoa1997 how do i add the channel user list to the side in xchat on ubuntu 13.10
00:17 dafull97 us{0gb, i got banned on here for no reason?
00:17 us{0gb Sometimes it hides. Click and drag the user list from the right.
00:18 us{0gb Banned where, and are you asking?
00:18 * jojoa1997 BABY YOUR BACK!!! :-D
00:19 us{0gb I lost my user list at one point too. It was very frustrating.
00:19 dafull97 on IRC, #minetest
00:19 dafull97 and i am wondering why?
00:19 us{0gb Who banned you?
00:19 us{0gb You're not banned now.
00:20 Nocte Ugh..
00:20 Nocte Its funny how being scared I chose Kansas as the band to calm me down. It's working. haha.
00:20 us{0gb Hmm?
00:20 us{0gb I don't know that band.
00:21 * us{0gb thought Kansas was a state
00:21 Nocte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X_2IdybTV0
00:21 us{0gb There's no place like home, here in Kansas.
00:21 Nocte Yeah, there's also a band named 'Boston' so whatever. haha.
00:22 dafull97 idk who banned me i went to get on and said i was banend
00:23 Exio4 us{0gb: nice! fsf/member? :P
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00:23 us{0gb That's Kansas? I had no idea. I know that song from Supernatural, a show I used to watch.
00:23 us{0gb Exio4, thanks!
00:25 dafull97 idk who banned me i went to get on and said i was bannnd
00:25 Nocte Yeah.
00:25 Nocte That's Kansas.
00:25 dafull97 us{0gb
00:26 dafull97 ^
00:26 us{0gb Hmm. Hopefully it was a mistake, and it got fixed.
00:26 Nocte You can listen on Grooveshark: Listen the album 'Power' from Kansas, quite cool also now listening to their 'Monolith' album.
00:26 Nocte So far they are quite good.
00:27 Nocte us{0gb, they are not done yet with the show Supernatural. Two more seasons to go! Trollface.JPG.
00:27 dafull97 i hope, but i have been banned for a while
00:27 dafull97 :/
00:27 us{0gb I don't have time for television anymore though.
00:28 Evergreen I don't even have cable
00:28 Nocte Ah.
00:28 Evergreen I have a television, just no cable service
00:30 Nocte I have a Full HDTV that I could watch stuff on if I wanted. I only watch stuff through DVDs and play games on that. Hehe.
00:31 us{0gb Oh, that reminds me. I need to find out if DVD playing software is legal in my jurisdiction. Does anyone here know how I would find that out?
00:31 Nocte Jurisdiction? What do you mean?
00:31 us{0gb I'm told it's illegal in some places.
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00:32 Nocte Oh also: You can watch DVDs through your PC. ;)
00:32 Nocte So that would make PCs illegal if that was true.
00:32 us{0gb You can watch them on your computer IF you have the software, which may or may not be legal here.
00:32 Exio4 Nocte: you can use the internet for buying drugs, does it make the internet ilegal?
00:33 Nocte No.
00:33 Nocte us{0gb, better google your place and the question "Is X illegal in Y"?
00:33 us{0gb It's a matter of free software that decrypts the DVDs to play them. Some places disallow the exposed source code for that, so any free software that can do that is illegal in these places.
00:34 us{0gb Non-free systems don't have that legal hurdle.
00:34 Nocte Oh, I see.
00:38 us{0gb "Unlike DeCSS, libdvdcss has never been legally challenged." ... interesting ...
00:38 us{0gb So I guess this one is legal everywhere, at least for the time being.
00:40 Nocte Hmm... You can also watch DVDs using PS3/Xbox360... :|
00:41 us{0gb I don't have those devices. All I have is a simple laptop.
00:42 Nocte I think a laptop usually comes with DVD playing software or something like Windows Media Player (Can also play DVDs.)
00:43 us{0gb Windows Media Player only comes on Windows.
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00:44 Nocte (Or something like.)
00:44 Nocte Basically: Multi media player.
00:45 us{0gb I was told that there was a good movie in the $5 USD bins at Wal*Mart, but have you ever seen those things? THere's no way you can find what you want, they just throw all the DVDs in a large bin.
00:46 us{0gb I have a media player, but DRM stops it from running DVDs without the decoding library of questionable legality.
00:47 Nocte Ah.
00:47 Nocte That sucks a lot then.
00:47 Nocte Yeah, good movies in that kind of place for $5? Nope. ;)
00:47 us{0gb It looks like this library is legal everywhere though, it just isn't installed by default just in case.
00:48 us{0gb I'm told it's a good movie and that it's in there.
00:48 Nocte Unless its old movie.
00:48 Nocte It's*
00:48 Nocte An*
00:48 * Nocte hates this month for typos.
00:48 us{0gb It might be old, I don't follow movie trends.
00:49 us{0gb If you mention a famous actor, chances are, I won't know who he/she even is.
00:49 Nocte Neither do I. If I find some movie to be interesting, I might watch it.
00:49 Nocte Actually, Kubrick's The Shining was 5€ from where we got it.
00:49 us{0gb A coworker thought I'd like this one. I've never heard of it.
00:50 Nocte Yeah, I don't almost ever remember the actor's names.
00:51 Nocte Let alone character names unless they are very important.
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01:01 stormchaser3000 hi
01:01 us{0gb Hello!
01:01 Menche hello
01:02 OWNSuAll joined #minetest
01:02 stormchaser3000 well i found out how to compile minetest on windows lol
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01:03 us{0gb Okay, cool. Making your own builds now then?
01:04 stormchaser3000 no
01:04 NekoGloop "PilzAdam doesn't like opinions" Well I knew this
01:04 stormchaser3000 i don't know how to add fetures
01:04 Menche heh, that's still up
01:10 Nocte Hmm..
01:10 Evergreen IT came because sfan5 changed the topic title to "Xfce is way better than unity" or something like that
01:10 * Nocte needs to find horror movies like The Shining that he should watch...
01:11 Evergreen Then Pilzadam told him to take it down
01:11 * Nocte just does not want to hear movies based on the same writer's stories. :P
01:11 Menche but Xfce is better than unity
01:12 us{0gb Xfce is pretty cool, and most things are better than Unity.
01:12 stormchaser3000 including irrlicht lol
01:12 stormchaser3000 and c++
01:13 stormchaser3000 and dblender
01:13 Menche ...those are both entirely different categories
01:13 stormchaser3000 i know
01:13 Menche unity is desktop environment, irrlicht is a graphics engine, and c++ is a language
01:13 stormchaser3000 blender*
01:15 Nocte You are not missing a lot if you are not capable of using Unity. Haha.
01:15 Exio4 us{0gb: if you can find something that is worse than unity..
01:15 Nocte Just some 3D games on the browser.
01:15 us{0gb Exio4, Windows.
01:16 Nocte Using Linux is so Hipster...
01:16 Nocte :p
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01:17 Exio4 we're talking about different unity(s) Nocte
01:17 Peacock unity sucks
01:17 * Peacock gallops awat
01:17 Exio4 calinou 2.0
01:17 * Peacock gallops *away
01:18 Menche but the unity game engine is some proprietary non-cross-platform thing right?
01:18 Nocte Still... :p
01:18 Menche that's bad too
01:18 Peacock Oh, that unity :P
01:18 Exio4 both unity(s) suck
01:18 Yepoleb both unitys suck
01:18 Menche *unities
01:18 * Exio4 slaps Yepoleb
01:18 Exio4 unities doesn't sound that cute
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01:19 Yepoleb Exio4, why D:?
01:19 Exio4 why not!
01:19 Peacock unity is the name of gay club around here :P
01:19 Peacock *of a
01:19 Nocte No wonder it does not work right. /joke.
01:19 jojoa1997|PC joined #minetest
01:19 Peacock no wonder users feel like theyve been fucked, amirite :P
01:19 Nocte Honestly Unity is like, laggy.
01:20 Nocte Yeah.
01:20 Exio4 what unity
01:20 Nocte From behind no less.
01:21 Peacock well, at the point where you're being fucked by software, the vector doesn't matter that much :P
01:21 jojoa1997|PC how do i make jojoa1997 logout
01:21 Peacock <voyager EMH> Multi-Vector assault mode!</EMH>
01:21 Nocte Somebody has to kick that.
01:21 Yepoleb unity is better than internet explorer
01:21 Menche /msg NickServ ghost username
01:21 Nocte ;)
01:21 us{0gb Yepoleb, you have a point.
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01:22 Nocte Everything is better than Internet Explorer.
01:22 jojoa1997 nope
01:22 Nocte Not a big achievement.
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01:22 jojoa1997 have you tried google chrome
01:22 Yepoleb but it doesn't support that much viruses
01:22 Nocte Well... Yeah..
01:22 Peacock i need a browser that supports all viruses
01:23 jojoa1997 how do i download luajit and leveldb. online isnt helping only confusing me
01:23 * us{0gb giggles at "virus support"
01:23 Nocte Also another thing we should compare that's easy to beat, modern rock bands: You can easily be better than Nickleback....
01:23 Peacock for which platform?
01:23 * jojoa1997 giggles too
01:23 Menche internet explorer is needed for windows update
01:23 Yepoleb viruses should be open source and cross platform
01:23 Nocte Yepoleb.
01:23 Nocte Hah.
01:23 Nocte Somebody said Mac does not have viruses?
01:23 jojoa1997 oh i can give you a virus that could probably destroy your chrome
01:23 Peacock open source viruses "help us fuck everyone" :P
01:24 us{0gb I don't know on Luajit. Try "sudo apt-get install leveldb-dev".
01:24 Nocte Nobody has bothered to code any, their life is already horrible because of that.
01:24 Menche search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
01:24 Peacock for linux is libluajit and libluajit-dev i think, there might be some numbers involved depending on the distro
01:24 * jojoa1997 laughs at sudo
01:24 Menche well, or software center or whatever
01:24 * jojoa1997 uses sudo -s
01:24 Menche or aptitude search
01:25 Peacock in soviet russia, sudo -s uses you
01:25 * Nocte codes viruses for Linux that automatically send me a list of porn sites that others have visited.
01:25 * Nocte jokes.
01:25 Yepoleb wouldn't it be great to install viruses using apt-get?
01:25 us{0gb What is -s?
01:25 Peacock nocte you might not have the bandwidth
01:25 jojoa1997 sudo -s
01:25 jojoa1997 what is your password
01:25 jojoa1997 mine is
01:25 jojoa1997 ~~~~~~
01:25 Nocte Lol, you need bandwidth for that?
01:26 jojoa1997 root@name:~#
01:26 Nocte My password: This is a lie!!!
01:26 Yepoleb Nocte: you're ddosing yourself
01:26 us{0gb My password is encrypted.
01:26 Menche could just use "su" to become root
01:26 Peacock my password: obammasucksdeadmanballs
01:26 Menche that way
01:26 Nocte Ddosing?
01:26 * us{0gb prefers not being root
01:27 Nocte You mean like, shutting down servers or something?
01:27 * jojoa1997 prefers not to type sudo everytime
01:27 Yepoleb no, you would get too many porn links
01:27 Peacock you have to suck pretty hard to suck a dead mans' balls :P though thats not really my password
01:28 Nocte Peacock, it's not that impressive of a feat.
01:28 Nocte Crazy Roman emperors...
01:28 Peacock ive never tried, to be honest :P
01:28 Nocte Modern-ish dictators etc.
01:28 Yepoleb root should be removed from linux
01:28 Peacock mordernish dictatos... mussolini, hitler, stalin, ?
01:28 Nocte Yup.
01:28 Yepoleb it's the only user which can damage the system
01:28 Peacock *dictators
01:29 Nocte Dicktators* rather. ;)
01:29 jojoa1997 so anyone know the lua-jit command
01:29 jojoa1997 apt-get one
01:29 diemartin just use Puppy Linux: then everyone is root!
01:29 Peacock heil Shitler
01:29 Menche aptitude search luajit
01:29 us{0gb You need root to do system maintenance though.
01:29 Menche learn to search packages yourself :P
01:29 diemartin AIYF?
01:29 Yepoleb no root --> system is undestroyable
01:29 Peacock :P
01:29 jojoa1997 well seeing as i was introduced to packages today
01:30 Peacock what dist jojoa?
01:30 jojoa1997 ubuntu 13.10
01:30 * Menche boots a live usb on Yepoleb's computer and formats his drive w/o root
01:30 us{0gb No root means the system is not configurable.
01:30 Nocte Oh man..
01:30 Nocte I found a way to scare people badly!
01:30 Menche you can do anything if you have physical access
01:30 Nocte Better than the maze games.
01:30 us{0gb SHow them Windows 8.1?
01:30 Yepoleb Menche: do you have an uefi live usb?
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01:31 Peacock sudo apt-get install luajit libluajit-5.1-2 libluajit-5.1-common libluajit-5.1-dev
01:31 Nocte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ena1W_g3TG8&amp;fea​ture=c4-overview&amp;list=UUtMVHI3AJD4Qk4hcbZnI9ZQ <-
01:31 Nocte This creepypasta.
01:31 davexunit hello all. I'm looking for a document that describes all of Lua API functions.
01:31 diemartin Peacock: O_o
01:31 Peacock and then sudo rm -rf /    should do the trick
01:31 diemartin better do install luajit* :P
01:31 diemartin that works too
01:32 Yepoleb davexunit: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/
01:32 Nocte Hah, showing WIndows 8.1? Nope, I know: Show them how iTunes restricts the download of your owned MP3 files.
01:32 Menche davexunit, the minetest lua API? there is a file called "lua_api.txt" in most distributions of minetest
01:32 davexunit Menche: thank you.
01:32 Peacock well on #!, luajit doesn't install the dev package, and you need that to compile minetest
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01:32 davexunit I was wondering if any of the developers would be receptive to a Guile API.
01:32 Menche doc/lua_api in most run-in-place packages
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01:32 davexunit Guile is a Scheme implementation with the honor of being the official extension language of the GNU project.
01:32 cy1 Anyone know a good long term timer in minetest?
01:32 Menche that another language? probably not. there was discussion of a javascript api that was pretty much nixed.
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01:33 cy1 item decay maybe...
01:33 Peacock javascript api? you mean lamer lol
01:33 diemartin cy1: depends
01:33 Exio4 davexunit: functional api"?
01:33 cy1 diemartin: I'm trying to make an auto-furnace...
01:33 Peacock someone mentionned a scripting language faster than lua, gscript or some shit lol
01:33 diemartin cy1: nodetimers then
01:33 davexunit Exio4: well once all of the basic functions are wrapped, you can write mods in a functional style, sure.
01:34 Peacock auto-furnace - burns/cooks itself :P
01:34 Menche would be interesting, but i doubt it will happen.
01:34 cy1 diemartin: no I mean, a chest that empties into a pneumatic tube that goes to a furnace.
01:34 Peacock why not play creative at that point? lol you've pretty much automated everything
01:34 Menche someone on my old server made what he called a quad-smelter
01:34 Exio4 yeah, but functional api? i wonder how awesome that would be
01:35 cy1 What I have has the tube double back to the chest, so if the furnace is full it won't pop the item out. But I'd rather stop trying to push the item every time once it's failed.
01:35 Menche takes stuff from a chest and balanced it across 4 furnaces
01:35 jojoa1997 gtg cya
01:35 cy1 Peacock: Machine simulation!
01:35 us{0gb THere's a #!/bin/bash on freenode! Awesome!
01:35 davexunit I am familiar with Guile and libguile, and I would be willing to at least do some research about how much work it would take to do.
01:35 diemartin cy1: so you mean something like sand tubes?
01:35 * diemartin is confused
01:35 davexunit but if the developers have no interest then there is likely no point.
01:35 Peacock indeed, resistance is futile
01:35 Menche ask about that on #minetest-dev
01:36 Menche where the "core devs" hang out
01:36 davexunit oh okay. thanks.
01:36 cy1 diemartin: No just normal tubes. Doubling back with normal tubes stops a failed injection from popping out.
01:36 Peacock menche when the channel is actually active :P
01:36 Menche -dev isn't?
01:36 Yepoleb davexunit: why don't you just use lua?
01:36 Exio4 davexunit: the main problem would be the 'support' for different apis, you would need to update all of them if you want to add a feature and so
01:37 Menche thought -mods was the dead one
01:37 Peacock though it's been more active lately, at least :-)
01:37 Exio4 Yepoleb: because scheme is awesome?
01:37 Peacock -mods is pointless, people ask their code questions here
01:37 diemartin lel scheme
01:37 Nocte Oh man... Coding talk makes my head hurt more than Math talk. :(
01:37 davexunit Exio4: this is true, but guile's vm is capable of supporting many languages :)
01:38 Yepoleb Exio4: why is it better than lua?
01:39 Menche it's a functional language?
01:39 Peacock if you're gonna support different APIs, the obvious choices are c++ and lua :P
01:39 Exio4 Yepoleb: it isn't better, but awesome!
01:40 kaeza GNU ;_;
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01:40 Menche so it's an interpreter for scheme which is a dialect of lisp
01:40 Exio4 so what kaeza? you can't say scheme is awesome-ish!
01:41 davexunit http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/
01:41 Peacock in any case, the lua api has plenty of shit to keep devs busy :P
01:41 davexunit Menche: scheme is not necessarily functional, it's multi-paradigm. but it lends itself to functional programming very nicely.
01:41 kaeza Exio4, I'd prefer python
01:42 Yepoleb imo it doesn't matter a lot which api language you use
01:42 Peacock ugh python lol
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01:42 Peacock would be fine if there was one version of python, but the current situation is a PITA
01:42 davexunit python doesn't lend itself well to being embedded into an application.
01:42 diemartin or BASIC
01:42 diemartin :D
01:42 Exio4 lisp-like syntax
01:43 Exio4 something i love
01:43 Yepoleb or java
01:43 cy1 Scheme/LISP seems like such a great idea until you try it...
01:43 Menche you don't mention java on this channel
01:43 davexunit cy1: and then you realize how awesome it is!
01:43 cy1 And then you discover some subtleties that make the language family entirely unmanageable.
01:43 Yepoleb java java java
01:43 Yepoleb ... sucks
01:43 diemartin Exio4: languages which use more parentheses than other symbols are gay
01:43 Exio4 Yepoleb: ha!
01:44 cy1 You wake up years later in a gutter having wasted your life trying to get scheme working for the last 3 years.
01:44 davexunit Guile is used in several GNU projects already as the extension language.
01:44 diemartin I read it on the internet
01:44 diemartin so it must be true
01:44 davexunit sounds like you were doing it wrong, cy1
01:44 Yepoleb diemartin: i totally agree
01:44 Nocte Guys, do you have anything 'go to' scare to make other people scared? :p
01:44 Exio4 http://nationalreport.net/nasa-miscalculates-aster​oid-path-japanese-scientists-predict-earth-impact/
01:44 Exio4 this must be true too
01:44 Nocte On the internet that is.
01:44 Menche davexunit and diemartin's usernames are the same length, both begin with 'd', and are given the same color by my irc client :/
01:45 cy1 davexunit: The syntax is too flexible I think. It becomes difficult to tell exactly what your program is doing.
01:45 Exio4 same with http://nationalreport.net/california-m​andate-homosexual-studies-grades-k-6/
01:45 davexunit I would disagree.
01:45 kaeza Menche, yes, he sucks
01:45 davexunit s-expressions are very readable once you get used to them.
01:45 diemartin kaeza: no u
01:45 davexunit anyhow, I didn't come here to start a language war.
01:45 Exio4 it was me
01:46 Menche let's just stop arguing about readability and rewrite minetest in Perl
01:46 Exio4 because i'm a lisp-syntax lover :P
01:46 Exio4 lol Menche
01:46 kaeza ._.
01:46 Menche construder (another voxel game) is writtern in Perl
01:46 cy1 davexunit: Oh they're readable, but determining what they mean is a complex process.
01:46 cy1 *can be
01:46 Yepoleb Menche: no, rewrite minetest in visual basic!
01:46 Nocte lisp, example?
01:46 Nocte Yepoleb: Are you a sadist?
01:47 cy1 davexunit: Most of my Scheme experience has been with Racket, so that may play a part...
01:47 Menche anything higher level than assembly is bloated!
01:47 diemartin and include a built in form editor :---)
01:47 Yepoleb Nocte: you don't like vb?
01:47 davexunit Racket is cool, though I personally just use Guile.
01:47 * Exio4 rewrites Menche in MIPS assembler
01:47 Nocte It's just crazy to think that somebody could code an actual game with that thing.
01:47 davexunit Emacs + paredit + Geiser = a wonderful development environment
01:47 Exio4 yeah, i've played with racket mostly
01:48 Nocte That wasn't side scroller or something.
01:48 davexunit if I could plug a sideproject of mine quickly: I am working on a 2d game development framework for Guile: https://github.com/davexunit/guile-2d
01:49 Yepoleb would it be possible to write minetest in c# and .net?
01:49 cy1 davexunit: The documentation for Racket is written in javascript :/
01:49 cy1 It's just full of problems.
01:49 cy1 Yepoleb: NO YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH
01:50 Nocte Would it be possible to code Minetest for Dos?
01:50 Yepoleb would it be possible for minetest to support the windows bsod api?
01:51 davexunit cy1: oh boo
01:51 Nocte What are the most hated coding languages out there?
01:52 davexunit later everyone.
01:52 Yepoleb would it be possible to rewrite minetest in java, so you could use minecraft mods?
01:52 * Nocte slaps Yepoleb
01:52 Exio4 davexunit: later, man!
01:52 cy1 davexunit: Installing Racket takes 2 hours on a good machine. I just can't deal w/ that. Planet is full of dependency hell too.
01:52 * Nocte hides.
01:52 Exio4 cy1: what?
01:52 Exio4 installing it? you mean compiling?
01:52 davexunit Yepoleb: minecraft has no official API. it would be very difficult to make them work in minetest, even if it was rewritten in java.
01:53 kaeza Yepoleb, I have a 100% exact emulation of IE as a MT mod, is this enough?
01:53 davexunit anyway, later.
01:53 cy1 Exio4: No, installing it... but yes, it waits until the installation process before compiling all the scheme code.
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01:53 Nocte kaeza, you mean Internet Explorer inside Minetest?
01:53 Yepoleb kaeza: omg, cool
01:53 kaeza Nocte, yes http://pastebin.com/0AxTtzuj
01:54 Yepoleb does it support downloading of other browsers?
01:54 Exio4 lol
01:54 Nocte Haha Yepoleb.
01:54 Nocte Better question: Does it support of viewing porn sites? /Joke.
01:54 Yepoleb i mean downloading of browsers, not other browsers
01:54 Exio4 who would even try to load porn in IE?
01:55 cy1 I think the Racket compilation takes so long because it has to generate the gigantic monolithic javascript documentation file every time it installs a package. It's one of the few programs that actually made my computers overheat.
01:55 Nocte support*.. It was the most obvious bad joke I could come up with.
01:55 Yepoleb as we all know, ie is not a browser
01:55 Exio4 what pc?
01:56 kaeza Yepoleb, seriously though, see my Wiki mod; I even implemented a mailing list in it :)
01:56 Yepoleb kaeza: i'm fascinated by your ie mod
01:56 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-wiki
01:57 Nocte kaeza, show some proof that it works. ;)
01:57 Menche "blarghargh" <- most descriptive commit msg ever
01:58 kaeza :D
01:58 Yepoleb kaeza: where is the function to crash the os?
01:59 Yepoleb seems like it's missing a very important feature
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02:00 Peacock yay, stuck the leftover ducky in the sunday gravy (spaghetti sauce) :P
02:00 Peacock though in two hours ittl' be monday gravy :S
02:01 Peacock erm, tuesday lol
02:02 Nocte It's funny how people are so scared of Slender Man.
02:02 Peacock actually, it's 2/3 monday gravy, 1/3 tuesday gravy :S
02:02 Nocte When there's lot more worse Creepypastas to be scared of.
02:02 kaeza Nocte, GO TO SLEEP
02:02 cy1 I'm not cursed you are.......
02:03 * Peacock presses Nocte's standby button
02:03 Nocte NO!
02:03 Nocte Don't tell me to go to sleep!
02:03 * Menche sends SIGTERM to Nocte
02:03 Nocte You could be Creepypasta guy in disguise!
02:03 * Nocte prepares his Demon banishing stuff ready. >:[
02:04 * Exio4 sends SIGKILL to Nocte
02:04 Nocte (Mainly the Bible and some salt. ;) )
02:04 * Nocte jokes.
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02:04 Peacock worse than creepy pasta guy, you could be Jason Russell
02:05 Nocte Jasonwho?
02:05 kaeza ._.
02:05 Peacock the guy who wacked off publicly in LA
02:05 kaeza too young?
02:06 Peacock did kony 2012
02:06 Peacock *LA = california lol
02:06 Peacock same thing
02:06 Peacock http://www.thearcadecreative.com/gotime/images/w​ordpress/uploads/2012/03/jason-russell-video.jpg
02:07 Nocte Lol...
02:07 Peacock ive often had that dream, but rarely has it happened in real life lol
02:08 NekoGloop his name is jeff the killer.
02:09 Nocte Seriously, what's wrong with these types of people? Why can't they behave like normal human beings. :|
02:09 Peacock they're liberals :P
02:09 Nocte Must be some mental illness. /joke.
02:10 Nocte Oh right, guessed that.
02:10 Peacock the sanest people i know are centrists :P
02:10 Peacock everyone else has a yearly pass to LaLa-land :P
02:10 Nocte Yeah.. :|
02:11 Nocte I would make a joke about Democracy working in China but hey... I might get attacked. ;)
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02:12 Peacock in china, you can vote for the communist party, or the communist party :P neither of which, is actually communist :P
02:13 Peacock its more like state captialism tbh
02:13 Nocte Capitalism*?
02:14 Peacock pretty much
02:14 Exio4 socialismo de mercado
02:14 Peacock all these red squiggly lines keep appearing under my words, but i dont know what they mean :/
02:14 Nocte Haha.
02:14 Nocte They are not correct!
02:15 kaeza spellchecker
02:15 Exio4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So​cialist-oriented_market_economy
02:15 Peacock im actually being facetious :P
02:15 Nocte Yeah...
02:15 Nocte And I was being joking so... :|
02:15 Exio4 err
02:15 Exio4 https://en.wikipedia.org/w​iki/Social_market_economy
02:16 Exio4 wrong bookmark
02:16 kaeza who neds spelcheker anywy?
02:16 Peacock social democracy and social credit seem reasonable
02:16 Peacock spellchecker can suck it
02:16 Peacock clippy too
02:16 kaeza LOL
02:17 Peacock actually, clippy should watch out, alot of metal is being jacked around here and smelted for their value as scrap metal lol
02:17 Nocte I seriously would want some kind of work but my body can't take too much physical stress. :(
02:17 Nocte Job*
02:18 Peacock physical stress? i did 16-18 hour shifts no problem, the body can take alot, just dont do it all year round lol
02:19 Nocte My body is a little bit weaker than standard.
02:19 Peacock i think repetition and boredom kill people alot faster than long shifts tbh
02:19 diemartin Exio4: http://xkcd.com/214/
02:19 Nocte For example: I can't walk for too long.
02:19 Peacock i can walk for hours
02:19 Peacock this one time, i left the bar downtown at 2am, and got home by 7 lol
02:20 Nocte Getting exhausted from running even small times...
02:20 Nocte Etc.
02:20 Exio4 diemartin: old news :P
02:20 Peacock had to cross a bridge and the shoreline, but no biggie lol
02:20 Nocte You are lucky.
02:20 cy1 Peacock: You are assuming everyone is a herculean god like yourself. Wise to perhaps consider differently.
02:20 Exio4 it happens to me everything
02:20 Nocte You don't have half the problems I do. ;)
02:20 Peacock running is more exhaustive :P
02:20 Peacock walking you can pace yourself
02:21 Peacock and if you're drunk as a skunk, you won't feel the first 3 hours of the walk anyhow
02:21 Nocte And I need to consume shit ton of water in order to do physical stuff that requires endurance. :(
02:21 stormchaser3000 me to
02:21 Exio4 if i wasn't a lazy bastard ... :P
02:21 Peacock well... water.. in Montreal there were vending machines every two corners
02:21 diemartin ^
02:21 Nocte I had to basically bring water bottles to the Physical Education classes...
02:22 Peacock i hated gyms lol reaked of sweat
02:22 stormchaser3000 i shoul do that i failed phy ed
02:22 Peacock id rather walk around at night, i dont sleep anyhow
02:22 Nocte Also: We have free water. >:D
02:22 Exio4 to what did you do "^" diemartin
02:22 Nocte That you can drink. :D
02:22 Exio4 Nocte: water is never free
02:22 diemartin 22:21 < Exio4> if i wasn't a lazy bastard ... :P
02:22 Exio4 someone pays for it
02:22 Nocte Expect for the small cost but yeah.
02:23 Exio4 it is underpriced :(
02:23 Nocte Still, you can drink from the tap basically..
02:23 Nocte Or whatever its called again.
02:23 cy1 As if there were any jobs that weren't boring and repetitious
02:23 Peacock well where im from, you can drink from a fountain in any park, id cross a few on my walks
02:23 Peacock (drinking fountains, not deco)
02:24 diemartin yea, pr0n stars get tired of tepetitive jobs
02:24 diemartin -t+r
02:24 Nocte diemartin. Haha.
02:24 Peacock exio is a pornstar?
02:24 Peacock is he in those Latin Heat videos? :P
02:24 stormchaser3000 "[21:23] <Peacock> (drinking fountains, not deco)" lol good
02:24 * Nocte slaps Peacock. "Hahaha."
02:25 Peacock i wouldn't drink out of a deco fountain :P people take that for urinals :P
02:25 stormchaser3000 ew
02:25 Exio4 yeah Peacock, i'm one of those, why do you think i'm a lazy bastard, because i can! obviously!
02:26 stormchaser3000 and no more talk about porn
02:26 Nocte Haha, I was about to make a joke: *pisses in the fountain* "You still want to say that?" *trollface.jpg*
02:26 Peacock because you got bitches all day long? :P
02:26 * Nocte can come up with the most bad and immature jokes ever.
02:26 Nocte Just ask me to do one.
02:27 * Peacock can come up with the most offensive jokes ever :P
02:27 Nocte Those are included.
02:28 Peacock for instance, the other night, i dreamt i was walking through a mall in my underwear, the suddenly these street gangs showed - immediately i knew i was dreaming, because they were all white
02:28 Nocte Lol.
02:28 Peacock *then, showed up
02:28 Nocte If you say that to Liberal, they shout: "RACIST!"
02:28 Nocte ;)
02:29 Peacock liberals will shout racist no matter what :P
02:29 Nocte Or bigot, take your pick.
02:29 Peacock as much as i can't stand rightwing nutjobs, i hate liberals just as much lol
02:29 Peacock i just tend to vote against the sitting government, so they dont get too comfortable
02:31 Peacock corruption comes in all stripes and colours lol
02:31 Nocte I probably have more right leaning views I guess. :|
02:32 Nocte I don't really like people banning guns.. Oh right, a guy breaks into my house holding a knife! What am I going to do? :|
02:32 stormchaser3000 lol
02:32 stormchaser3000 lol
02:32 stormchaser3000 lol
02:32 stormchaser3000 lol
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02:32 Exio4 you take your ak47 and well
02:32 Nocte Pistol for me.
02:33 stormchaser3000 ok i thought 4 was not considered flood
02:33 Exio4 i want an ak47 :(
02:33 Nocte Pistol is better, more accurate. :p
02:33 stormchaser3000 pistol is not that acuret use a sniper
02:33 Nocte Well, yeah.
02:33 Nocte But for household defense, I would pick a pistol.
02:34 Menche governor just vetoed a couple terrible gun control laws here in CA
02:34 stormchaser3000 i would pick the poliece
02:34 Nocte But as it is: I'm against violence in any form other than actual self defense.
02:34 stormchaser3000 lol me
02:34 stormchaser3000 to
02:34 Nocte (This is, in reality that is.)
02:35 Nocte Police... Came in 30 minutes late.
02:35 stormchaser3000 ok menche i am going on menche.us
02:35 Exio4 Nocte: 30 minutes late?
02:35 Nocte You're stabbed, bleeding on the floor and stuff taken.
02:35 Nocte General joke. ;)
02:35 Exio4 i'd say a bit more
02:35 Exio4 maybe 45-60 minutes
02:35 Nocte Hehe.
02:36 Nocte Menche, really? They did that?
02:36 Peacock dude, someone breaks into my house, i dont need a gun, i got plenty of shit to club them to death with lol
02:36 Menche Brown vetoed a few really restrictive gun laws, yeah
02:36 Menche i was surprised, he's usually not the brightest bulb.
02:36 Nocte I would go for the kitchen knife and throw it at them. I'm very good at throwing shit.
02:37 * Exio4 throws Nocte away
02:37 Nocte My only way to fight: Throwing!
02:37 Exio4 anyway, with a kitchen knife you don't do much
02:37 Nocte What the hell am I? A Hobbit?
02:37 Yepoleb Anyone want to help me with my visual basic minetest rewrite?
02:37 Peacock last time, i went for the pipe wrench
02:37 Exio4 i'll help you
02:38 * Nocte sends people from a close enough asylum to take in Yepoleb.
02:38 Peacock which board is that? mr peacock, in the library, with the pipewrench?
02:38 Peacock *board game
02:38 Nocte Just hope its not the Arkham Asylum (Lovecraft, not Batman.)
02:38 Exio4 anyway
02:38 Exio4 night
02:38 * Peacock tucks in exio
02:38 Yepoleb do you need wine for vb on linux?
02:38 Yepoleb night exio
02:39 Peacock i need two bottles of wine for VB yeah
02:39 Exio4 lol.
02:40 kaeza Yepoleb, AFAIK, there is a free, native alternative to VB for Linux
02:41 * kaeza suggests using Gtk+ anyway
02:41 Nocte Exio4, is there some common household item for throwing at opponents?
02:41 Yepoleb oh, mono supports vb.net
02:41 * Peacock suggest finding a transient, skinning him/her, and making a bodysuit
02:42 Nocte That will kill with a clean hit. :P
02:43 * Nocte of course jokes.
02:43 kaeza a crowbar
02:43 kaeza Gordon Freeman Style
02:43 Nocte throwing weapon.
02:43 NekoGloop VB?
02:43 Nocte Peacock, any other crazy news btw?
02:43 Nocte NekoGloop: Visual Basic.
02:43 kaeza who says you can't throw a crowbar?
02:43 NekoGloop oh
02:44 Nocte Too heavy.
02:44 Nocte @Kaeza
02:44 NekoGloop people thow bowling balls
02:44 NekoGloop throw
02:44 Peacock i got plenty of crazy :p
02:44 * kaeza thinks NekoGloop prefers GML
02:44 NekoGloop mhm
02:44 Peacock remember, my father used to think he was a mexican woman, so crazy must run in the family :P
02:45 Nocte Lol.
02:45 Yepoleb what's the worst microsoft "programming" language?
02:45 kaeza batch
02:45 Peacock visualbasic?
02:45 Nocte C something?
02:46 Peacock c# aint bad actually :P
02:46 Peacock blockscape is in c# and i can't fault it compared to minetest
02:46 Peacock c# = pronounced C Sharp
02:47 Nocte What other Cs were there?
02:47 Peacock well there was there was A and B programming languages probably
02:47 Peacock i cant wait for D though, so i can say "give her the D" :P
02:47 Yepoleb kaeza: batch is not language
02:47 Menche there is a D language
02:48 Peacock oh yeah?
02:48 kaeza yep
02:48 Peacock fuck my wiki skills are lacking lol
02:48 Nocte When will they get to 'Z'?
02:48 kaeza when 0.4.8 comes out, prolly
02:48 Yepoleb it only supports launching the bluescreen
02:48 Nocte Also, I had a nice discussion with my dad about Virtual Reality stuff for some reason I can't remember.
02:49 Yepoleb so i would call it a tool
02:49 Peacock last articles i read: Anatoliy Golitsyn, James Jesus Angleton and Yuri Nosenko lol
02:50 Nocte Basically, it seems like that's where we are heading with the current tech. Body controls the characters in the video game and you can 'feel' the damage you get in the Virtual Reality game.
02:50 Peacock current computer games sucks, and its only gonna get worse :P
02:50 Peacock gameplay hasn't changed since the 90s
02:50 Nocte Imagine Virtual Reality MMOFPS RPG. Haha.
02:51 kaeza meh
02:51 Peacock you might be able to control the player with body movements, but thats about it
02:51 Nocte You would need some bit advanced tech.
02:51 kaeza VR pr0n games would be cool tho'
02:51 Peacock DLC's and pay-as-you-go is pretty much ruining it
02:52 Peacock VR pron  = holodeck pron :P that's coming for sure
02:52 Nocte Like some advanced controller rumble thing...
02:52 Peacock but it's not gaming, it's just getting off
02:52 Yepoleb java.
02:52 Nocte So is your penis hard in reality too and...?
02:52 * Nocte jokes.
02:52 Peacock even in star trek, all the "heros" on the holodeck got to bed someone lol
02:52 Yepoleb do i get banned now?
02:53 Peacock java = cant get a hardon because i dont i have the right version of JVM :P
02:53 Nocte Anyways, it could be used to actually train soldiers.
02:53 kaeza Yepoleb, no, saying Java three times invokes PilzAdam ;-)
02:53 Nocte In very realistic FPS.
02:53 Peacock soldiers? have you not heard of autonomous robots? :P
02:53 Yepoleb java java java
02:53 Nocte But still.
02:54 Peacock it only invokes PA during daytime german time :P
02:54 Peacock if its 23 hours EST, it must be middle of the night there
02:54 Nocte And currently it's 5:54 in Finland.
02:54 Nocte Minus one hour I think.
02:54 Yepoleb i live in the same timezone
02:54 Peacock depends on ESt and which country still uses it
02:54 kaeza 00:54 UYT
02:55 Nocte Was German +1?
02:55 Nocte Germany*
02:55 Peacock not sure about DST there
02:55 Yepoleb it's 4:55 PAT
02:56 Nocte Hmm...
02:56 Nocte Also: What is with the Dutch in EU servers?
02:56 Peacock dutch?
02:56 Nocte There's always tons of them. Haha.
02:56 Nocte And always talking in their language.
02:56 Peacock i wouldnt complain lol
02:57 Peacock whats weird is we get few canadians or australians on MT
02:57 kaeza looks like Europe has the most player base
02:57 Peacock i can name 2-3 canadians off the top of my head, and im one of them lol
02:57 stormchaser3000 ok if you all want to talk to menche and me download minetest-classic (darkrose) and go to menche port 30000
02:57 Nocte I mean, like..
02:57 Nocte In generally MMO games.
02:57 stormchaser3000 menche.us*
02:58 Nocte If they are popular-ish that is.
03:01 Yepoleb have you seen a pony mod?
03:01 Peacock very gay, tape miss Brahms!
03:02 * Nocte wants to hear what other crazy stuff America has done this week.
03:03 Peacock well Canada's been talking about EU free trade lol
03:03 Nocte Is this late April's fools?
03:03 Peacock which will, in all likelihood, kill our local dairy industry and empower the separatist movement in Quebec
03:05 Peacock tbh, id rather support the separatists than the federalists at this point lol
03:05 Nocte Why?
03:05 Nocte Which is more sane?
03:06 Peacock well..
03:06 Peacock the anglo saxons control 4/5's of the country
03:07 Peacock we got our corner of North America, and wish to run things our way ( in french north america)
03:07 Peacock its not so much a question of sanity as it is of cultural differences
03:07 Nocte Didn't Canada at one point do something like "We got to sell games in French" in one place or am I remembering wrong? Ah, I see.
03:08 Peacock tbh i think the anglo saxons are fascist, and we (Quebec) would be better off without them :P
03:08 Peacock *fascists
03:09 Peacock like northern Ireland and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, they keep threatening to leave, but they never do, to the despair of everyone lol
03:09 Nocte At least you are not having a Jew problem like America has. /joke.
03:10 Peacock meh, whether or not you're allied to Israel, i dont see what that's got to do with CE in Canada
03:11 Peacock an independ Quebec would probably still prefer Israel to any of the other arab countries lol
03:11 Peacock (when comparing values)
03:11 Nocte Yeah..
03:12 Peacock well shit, ask any citizen, would you rather live in Israel, or an arab country? guess what they'd say :P
03:12 cy1 pth, minetest-classic.
03:12 Nocte Dunno. :<
03:12 Nocte :|*
03:13 Nocte Depends how crazy they are.
03:16 Peacock well we got plenty of crazies in this country, though at least Quebec is at least trying to pass a secularism charter
03:16 Nocte Secularism charter?
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03:19 Peacock secularism yeah, barring religious apparel for public sector workers
03:21 Nocte That's stupid.
03:21 Menche apparently you can "offend" others just by believing something
03:21 Nocte Isn't that like, telling adults what they can and can't do? ;)
03:21 Peacock its perfectly sane, theres a huge influx of immigrants from french arab countries, and we need to clarify the rules here and now
03:22 Nocte Menche believe in Christian faith and thou shall offend the Liberals.
03:22 VanessaE the problem isn't believing in something - the problem is shoving that belief in everyone's face, and a t-shirt is a good way to get such a conversation going
03:22 Nocte VanessaE, so do LGBT supporters do that.
03:22 Menche ick
03:22 VanessaE some do.
03:22 Peacock in Quebec, we believe religion is a private thing, it's something you do at home, you dont get to demand prayer rooms or cover your face for elections
03:23 Nocte So there you go..
03:23 Nocte Let's ban "Political Apparel." too.
03:23 Nocte Because it might offend people.
03:23 Nocte Does not make any sense.
03:23 Menche let's just go and ban speaking on public property.
03:23 VanessaE however the difference there is that LGBT folk have rights problems (or lack of rights) to deal with.  When was the last time some right-wing radical Christian group complained of the same?
03:23 Menche and wearing anything besides solid colors :P
03:24 Nocte VanessaE, you do notice that it's not 'rights' thing for gays to be able to get married? It's a religious thing.
03:24 Peacock lol political correctness will be the end of the anglosphere
03:24 VanessaE Nocte: it's a religious thing to the religious nuts, yes.
03:24 Nocte I seriously do support civil unions or whatever to give the same right as Church marriage.
03:24 VanessaE to everyone else, it's an "equal treatment under the law" thing.
03:24 Nocte But Bible is the law of the Church.. Sorry.
03:24 Peacock gays only want to be married in the eyes of the government, not the church
03:25 Nocte That's like saying Satanist should be able to hold their rituals in a Church.
03:25 Peacock i doubt that they give much of shit what choirboy abusing deacon thinks of gay marriage
03:25 Nocte Becuase it would be discriminatory.
03:25 Nocte If they were not able to.
03:25 Menche the Church should *never* support LGBT marriage. with the current political climate, though, it's ineviteble that it will be allowed by earthly law, unfortunately
03:25 VanessaE Nocte: LGBT folk don't give two shits about churches.  they care about the law.  the law says "no" in a lot of places, so the churches latch onto that and make the argument theirs instead of the State's.
03:26 Menche some churches have given in already, sadly
03:26 Peacock if the church is public property, hell yeah, otherwise pay taxes like any other enterprise
03:26 VanessaE (beyond those who are religious, I mean)
03:26 VanessaE Menche: imho no religious institution of ANY kind should be involved.
03:26 Peacock all religions should be treated as businesses IMHO, their leaders live like CEO's
03:27 Nocte http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-a​m-still-not-getting-what-i-want-gay-​couple-suing-church-for-refusing-wed <- just saying.
03:27 VanessaE marriage needs to remain the exclusive purview of the State, as it always has been
03:28 Peacock in matters of law, the state is supreme, not the church
03:28 VanessaE when a church meddles in affairs of the State, or politics in general, they should be taxed all to hell and back.
03:28 VanessaE and that applies to all religious institutions.
03:28 Peacock if anything, the church has little legal power these days, and it's a good thing
03:29 Nocte Why don't gays want to get married in Islam's place of worship?
03:29 Nocte And only in Christian?
03:29 VanessaE nocte: your knowledge of people is ...limited.
03:29 Nocte Islams.. Btw, is pretty much Anti-gay.
03:29 VanessaE you act as if only Christian gays exist.
03:30 Peacock the church used to run health and education where i'm from in the 50's and 60's, and they also sold orphans to the medical community for experimentation, so we have little sympathy for them these days :P
03:30 Nocte Still, you should act with a little bit more respect.
03:30 Nocte Since I'm a Christian.
03:30 VanessaE as I recall, there are a couple dozen religions on this planet.  I'm pretty sure each one has at least some contingent of its gay population (if any) who wish to marry.
03:30 VanessaE so?
03:31 Peacock Nocte there are plenty of gay arabs, but from what they tell me, they want nothing to do with their home culture
03:31 Nocte And reason being?
03:31 VanessaE I don't care what your religion is, frankly.
03:31 Nocte @Peacock.
03:31 VanessaE I care how you treat people.
03:31 Menche so, you didn't like a church from a particular denomination so you apply that to all Christians?
03:31 Peacock for the same reason people form hardcore christian families want nothing to do with their own communities, it should be obvious
03:31 Nocte Still, you can't force a Church to bow down to you because you disagree.
03:31 VanessaE (not you specifically, of course)
03:32 VanessaE if a church won't officiate a wedding, go to another church.  what matters is what the STATE does.
03:32 Peacock they want to go to city hall, not a church
03:32 VanessaE someone suing a church over such a rejection is indeed taking things too far
03:32 Peacock but church types would rather they not have that option either
03:32 VanessaE exactly, Peacock
03:32 Nocte Finally somebody agrees on that aspect. :|
03:32 Menche churches shouldn't be forced to accept the sexually immoral
03:33 kaeza "immoral" ?
03:33 VanessaE the religious nuts want it stamped out of existence, even when they aren't involved.
03:33 Nocte It's like going to your mommy after somebody said a bad word.
03:33 VanessaE immoral?
03:33 Peacock even the new pope says the church needs to change focus, *hint*
03:33 kaeza seriously...
03:33 Peacock fewer and fewer people attending church lately might have something to do with it
03:33 VanessaE what's immoral about how a person is born?  about behavior that they cannot change or avoid?
03:33 * VanessaE is confused.
03:34 Peacock how many straight white people are there left that dont cheat on their wives? donations must be wearing thin lol
03:34 Menche it's not how they're born. it can be avoided.
03:34 VanessaE Menche: sorry, you are dead wrong there.
03:34 VanessaE it is, and it can't be,
03:34 Peacock menche, you're a dumbass
03:34 Menche so, you're saying, because someone feels like doing something, they should be able to?
03:34 Nocte VanessaE, you are saying you can't avoid changing your behaviour? Hmm...
03:34 Menche Peacock, how rude
03:34 VanessaE if it doesn't hurt someone, YES.
03:34 Peacock but true
03:34 Nocte Or whatever.
03:34 Menche just because you're tempted in a certain way doesn't mean it is correct to give in.
03:34 Nocte If they can't adapt. Don't be a Christian.
03:35 Peacock just because you can fuck a woman, and feel like it, should you? what if society told you it was wrong? lol
03:35 VanessaE Nocte: a person can no more change an innate behavior than they can change the number of freckles on their shoulders.
03:35 Nocte Even normal acts of sex is immoral btw.
03:35 Nocte Unless done with the wife.
03:35 Menche "innate behavior"? you either do it or you don't, lol. it's a choice.
03:35 Menche Nocte, I totally agree.
03:35 Peacock like fucking women lol
03:35 VanessaE Menche: wrong and wrong.
03:35 kaeza so... we approve of maniatic sickos but heterosexual couples, or marriage for money, or whatever, but can't approve of two people of the same sex who love each other?
03:35 kaeza this is sick
03:36 VanessaE I invite you to try stopping breathing, eathing, drinking water, using the bathroom, etc.
03:36 Peacock fucking out of wedlock is bad in the eyes of the church, menche, will you wait until you're marieed?
03:36 Nocte Bible states that husband should have his wife and the wife her husband.
03:36 VanessaE lemme guess - you can't, can you?
03:36 Menche wait wait wait, since when did you have to marry everyone you love?
03:36 Menche you can love someone without marrying them, lol
03:36 Nocte And only those two are allowed to have sex between each other. :p
03:36 Nocte And not considered to be sin.
03:36 Peacock so the rules are different for straight people, nice to know :P
03:37 VanessaE fuck the bible and fuck the concept of "sin".
03:37 VanessaE "sin" was invented by man.
03:37 VanessaE and by bible I mean the revised-and-expanded-by-man version
03:37 Peacock like i said vanessa, all abrahamic relgions are full of shit Lol :P
03:38 VanessaE i.e. if it did not come directly from G*d's mouth, so to speak, then it is not an authoritative source on what He thinks is the right behavior.
03:38 Nocte At least Bible says to treat each man in just and kind manner.
03:38 Menche the Bible was inspired by God and is entirely infallible.
03:38 Nocte Man = Both woman and man.
03:38 Peacock hell even Jesus treated whores better than most cops these days, but most people still pay taxes
03:39 VanessaE and last I knew there was only one work that was directly dictated and/or penned by G*d, and that's the Ten Commandments.
03:39 VanessaE Menche: why, because the bible says so?  circular logic.
03:39 VanessaE media A says media A is infallible, therefore media A is infallible.
03:39 Peacock circular logic is integral to religion :P
03:39 kaeza thank god I'm atheist
03:39 Peacock you could never make a proramming language out of religion, segfault every time
03:39 Nocte Also: Anyone remember John 8?
03:39 VanessaE thank G*d I'm Jewish.
03:40 Peacock thank god im atheist lol
03:40 kaeza :P
03:40 Peacock i got enough of 3 governments to pay for lol
03:40 VanessaE 3?
03:40 Peacock (city/provincial/fed)
03:40 VanessaE oh right
03:40 Nocte Basically, Jesus was like: "I dare you anyone who has not sinned throw this woman with the first stone." <- normal people's lnguage. Haha.
03:41 VanessaE define "sin".
03:41 VanessaE and don't give me the "bible" version,.  give me the original unedited meaning.
03:41 Nocte Peacock... Nah, the coding language wouldn't give Segfault.
03:41 VanessaE you can't, because that word is used for like 5 different levels of infraction in the original Hebrew text.
03:42 Nocte It would give 'Incorrect Syntax'...
03:42 Peacock nocte you see how well religion is serving the middle east and africa lately :P
03:42 Nocte That's Islam for ya. ;D
03:42 Menche why even have religion if you don't believe in sin?
03:42 VanessaE Peacock, kaeza ... should that be "thank the FSM"? ;)
03:43 Peacock not just islam, a shitton of christian money is finding it's way in Africa, and that's fucking things up even further for people there
03:43 VanessaE why do you need sin?
03:43 kaeza FSM?
03:43 VanessaE sin is a concept created by man to control other men
03:43 Peacock FSM?
03:43 VanessaE kaeza: Flying Spaghetti Monster
03:43 kaeza ah :P
03:43 Nocte VannessaE, how do we define what's wrong and right?
03:43 Peacock lol
03:43 Nocte And what's accepted by law?
03:44 VanessaE Nocte: not by any religious text, that's for sure.
03:44 Nocte Then what would be the 10 core laws you would make?
03:44 VanessaE define what's wrong and right by what society, as a whole, deems wrong and right maybe?
03:44 Menche ick, postmodern subjectivism
03:44 Peacock ok, if christians really gave a shit about christianity, there would be no such thing as intertest, because usury is a sin
03:45 VanessaE Nocte: the Ten Commandments are a good place to start, but you don't need religion to come up with those ideas.
03:45 kaeza Nocte, 1: Don't try to get in other's life, 10: count in binary
03:45 VanessaE kaeza: lol
03:45 Nocte 2 You must hate Java.
03:45 * Nocte jokes.
03:45 VanessaE Menche: life flows, people evolve.
03:45 VanessaE and as people evolve, so must the laws that govern them
03:45 cy1 Nocte: http://www.freerepublic.co​m/focus/news/969071/posts
03:46 VanessaE why do you think the bible is so full of contradictions?
03:46 VanessaE why do you think there is a so-called "new" testament?
03:46 VanessaE because people evolve.
03:46 Peacock because it was written by different people hundreds of years after the fact and translated several times thereafer?
03:46 Menche no, there's a new testament because the covanent of the old testament was fulfilled by Jesus the Christ.
03:46 VanessaE Menche: without the religious overtones.
03:46 Menche and so the new covanent was layed out in the new testament.
03:47 Nocte Well... Yes.
03:47 Nocte Jesus was all about teaching people new laws and rules.
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03:47 Nocte And how to live.
03:47 VanessaE the bible, any version you care to name, was written by men over the course of time, and whether inspired by G*d or not, it still shows how people changed over the years.
03:47 Menche the laws of ritual purity from the old testament are no longer needed, because the old covanent has been fulfilled.
03:47 VanessaE Jesus was about teaching a reform version of Judaism, nothing more and nothing less.
03:48 VanessaE Menche: please. stop.
03:48 Peacock it's amazing to believe so many opensource people are pro-religion lol kinda reinforces the zealotry argument :P
03:48 Menche the old testament sacrifices were symbolic of Jesus' sacrifice. they are no longer needed now.
03:48 Menche VanessaE, why?
03:48 kaeza Peacock, it's almost the same thing
03:48 VanessaE Menche: because you are not arguing with facts and logic and reason, you are arguing from a religious basis only.
03:48 Nocte Hmm...
03:48 Peacock kaeza agreee
03:48 Peacock *agreee
03:49 kaeza eeeee
03:49 Nocte Anyone remember who was the first killer in the Bible?
03:49 Peacock tabarnacle, *agree lol
03:49 Menche arguing from a source of infallible truth? sounds good to me.
03:49 Nocte Anyone remember what happened?
03:49 VanessaE Menche: the bible is infallible, why?
03:49 Nocte This should be easy to guess.
03:49 Nocte Since its in media all over the place.
03:49 Peacock infallible truth lol = dumbass
03:49 VanessaE Nocte: G*d was afaik.
03:49 Nocte Nah.
03:49 Nocte After he created man and woman.
03:50 Peacock infallible truth is what dumbasses uses to reassure themselves in an uncertain world
03:50 Menche the first *physical* killing was by cain
03:50 VanessaE Menche: the bible is infallible, why?
03:50 Nocte There you go. :p
03:50 Nocte God hates killing.
03:50 Nocte And punished Cain for that.
03:51 Nocte And people say "Why is there 'you shall not kill' on ten commandments." Or something like that...
03:51 VanessaE yup, back then there were only a couple of rules - don't kill and don't eat from a certain tree.
03:51 Nocte Which they both fucked up.
03:51 VanessaE Nocte: "You shall not murder", to be exact.
03:51 Nocte So, a man is not perfect.
03:52 Nocte You can't find any verse that says so in Bible.. :p
03:52 Menche the Word of God is living and active. I have been brought to believe it by the Holy Spirit working through the Word.
03:52 VanessaE Menche: the bible is infallible, why?
03:52 Menche it is the Word of God.
03:52 VanessaE exactly - no one is.  and any text that goes through mankind's hands/heads before being put into written form, by definition, is also imperfect.
03:52 VanessaE and who says so?
03:52 cy1 Nocte: actually God punished Cain for not giving him a cool sacrifice.
03:52 Peacock lol meche, just because you were brought up Christian, does mean Christianity is the ultimate truth, hate to break it to you :P
03:53 VanessaE Menche: who says it's the word of G*d?  Where's your proof?
03:53 Nocte cy1.. Haha.
03:53 Peacock *doesn't
03:53 cy1 "Rutabagas? What the hell am I supposed to do with these Cain?"
03:53 VanessaE cy1: haha
03:53 Nocte Actually, Cain was jelly of Abel because he got God's attention.. Damned attention whore. /joke.
03:54 kaeza I think this pretty much sums it up: http://forlackofabettercomic.com/?id=61
03:54 Peacock in any case, this debate is beyond retarded, im going to tend to my spaghetti sauce lol
03:54 cy1 All Cain ever did was write emo poetry. The angels killed Cain for him on accident
03:54 cy1 *Abel
03:55 Nocte Lol.
03:55 VanessaE Menche: well?
03:55 Menche <Menche> I have been brought to believe it by the Holy Spirit working through the Word.
03:55 VanessaE Menche: who says your (or any) bible is the word of G*d?
03:56 VanessaE horseshit.
03:56 Menche and why do you spell God with an asterisk?
03:56 VanessaE I want concrete data.
03:56 VanessaE not feelings.
03:56 Nocte There have been archeological findings.
03:56 Nocte Of Biblical stuff.
03:56 VanessaE and the asterisk is a Jewish custom (sometimes a dash, or an underscore) to prevent G*d's name from being misused or defaced.
03:56 VanessaE Menche: who says your (or any) bible is the word of G*d?  Where is the concrete evidence?
03:56 cy1 Unfortunately VanessaE has a point. What you believe in really doesn't change what other people see and experience.
03:57 Nocte So the Jews came up with censorship? Haha.
03:57 VanessaE Nocte: heh, no it goes a little deeper :)
03:58 Nocte Did we say it does @Cy1? :p
03:58 VanessaE Menche: There is no concrete evidence that any bible is the direct word of G*d.  Nothing written by G*d Himself stating so, that isn't also in the bible.  Therefore, no bible can be proven to be the word of G*d.
03:59 cy1 Nocte: It's like someone tells you to prove that the bible is the word of God, and your answer is that you like ice cream. It's just a non sequitur to say "because this I believe"
03:59 VanessaE Since those bibles were written down by mankind and literally VOTED ON, they can't be taken as fact.
03:59 VanessaE (see also, The Council of Nicea)
03:59 cy1 As if God actually talks in words. :p
04:00 Nocte Also, it's funny how people bitch about Christians being violent people.
04:00 cy1 Principia Mathematica = the closest anyone's gotten to God's word
04:00 Nocte In history that is.
04:00 VanessaE Nocte: three words for you:  Westboro.  Baptist.  Church.
04:00 Nocte Ever heard of the Vikings? ;)
04:00 Nocte Basically whole culture and religion about war and shit related.
04:00 Nocte VanessaE, those are not really Christians.
04:01 VanessaE cy1: interesting thought.  Probably not far from the truth.
04:01 Menche the Roman Catholic Church was quite violent in the Middle ages, but it is absurd to base your estimation of modern Christians on that.
04:01 Menche which i have seen people do.
04:01 VanessaE Menche: oh wait, so they're allowed to adapt and change now?
04:01 VanessaE why isn't the rest of society allowed to grow and change then?
04:01 Nocte Yeah.
04:01 Nocte Middle Ages was violent times.
04:01 Menche the Roman Catholic Church of that time was not governed by the Bible, but by random edicts given by the papacy.
04:02 cy1 VanessaE: I'm lying of course, but metaphorically I think it's pretty close to true.
04:02 VanessaE it still isn't, is.
04:02 Nocte Lots of douches running around with weapons and killing people.. Oh wait, they didn't play violent video games did they? /joke.
04:02 cy1 I just don't think what's true matters.
04:02 VanessaE the modern church, whether catholic or christian or whatever, is governed by one entity:  man.
04:02 Nocte For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. <- Remember this? :p
04:02 Nocte Westboro condemns... So, not Christian.
04:02 Nocte Haha.
04:03 cy1 Menche does have a point. As far as Christians go, Catholics are the worst. :p
04:03 VanessaE the only religious institutions that truly live by what their deities should theoretically expect are the ones with the inclusive, non-discriminatory, non-fire-and-brimstone congregations and clergy
04:03 Menche any sin is forgivable, contrary to what Westboro says.
04:03 cy1 You know what they call Protestants who threw away their new age ideas and went back to Catholicism? (Hint: they started BAPTIzing people again)
04:04 Nocte Yeah, only if you believe in Jesu as the savior etc.
04:04 Nocte @Menche.
04:04 Menche yeah.
04:04 VanessaE meh, there's no savior.  there's only us and perhaps G*d.  We're here to make the best of this world.
04:04 Nocte Which is pretty basic stuff people miss.
04:04 kaeza I'm going to hell, and will love every minute of it :)
04:04 Nocte Hope you like BDSM.
04:04 Nocte That's what you going to find.
04:04 * Nocte jokes.
04:05 Nocte Without the sex.
04:05 kaeza I hope so :)
04:05 cy1 I don't really care if it's just us, or some god, or Jesus H. Christ. I just want to do magic. :p
04:05 Menche any sin which is recognized and repented of is completely paid for in full.
04:05 VanessaE I don't buy into anything christian-related, and I support the LGBT community whole-heartedly.  But I am most assuredly not going to hell.
04:05 VanessaE I don't believe such a place even exists, and there's no such thing as satan.
04:05 Nocte Jesus Christ of Nazareth* if you want the full name.
04:06 VanessaE Nocte: wrong.
04:06 cy1 Hell isn't a place you go to. It's a place you condemn other people to when you don't like them.
04:06 kaeza cy1, lol
04:06 kaeza seems legit
04:06 VanessaE Nocte: the full name is Yeshuah ben Josef bat Miriam
04:07 Nocte Haha.
04:07 cy1 I happen to know his middle name is Horace. You didn't hear it from me though
04:07 VanessaE Jesus was Jewish.  Ergo, he would have used a standard such as that ^^
04:08 Nocte VanessaE, he was born as Jew. :|
04:08 VanessaE exactly.
04:08 VanessaE born and raised.
04:08 VanessaE and therefore, he would have called himself by the above when a full name is warranted.
04:08 cy1 One day you'll face the pearly gates and what you gon' say.... when that long haired Jewish peacenik sends your ass the other way!
04:09 cy1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHjsaEK4vnw
04:09 cy1 <3
04:10 Nocte VanessaE, btw.
04:10 VanessaE what?
04:10 Nocte The LGBT already have (In America.) equal rights btw. Before somebody added new laws for them.
04:10 VanessaE Nocte: no, they don't.
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04:11 Nocte Hmm..
04:11 Nocte What were the ten laws again in the U.S that were higher than any other law in the country?
04:12 VanessaE the bill of rights.
04:12 VanessaE those ARE the highest laws of the land, and they don't stem from any religious text.
04:13 Nocte Heh.
04:13 Nocte Where was the law again... That said no person shall be discriminated because of their beliefs/political/whatever views?
04:13 VanessaE first one expressly forbids our government from meddling in the affairs of the religions.
04:14 * Nocte facepalms.
04:14 Nocte Remembering the other laws again... Hard to not mix up.
04:14 * VanessaE sighs
04:14 VanessaE this is a country of laws, not religion, and it will stay that way.
04:14 Nocte http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights <-... Damn it.
04:15 Nocte Sorry, poor memory.
04:15 Nocte Especially when tired.
04:15 VanessaE oh you wanted the TERM for it
04:15 VanessaE I thought you were aiming for some kind of actual stature.
04:15 VanessaE statute*
04:16 * kaeza hands Nocte an xterm
04:16 Nocte Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. That means, both non-heterosexuals have the same rights... :|
04:16 VanessaE human rights are only as good as the government allows them to be, is the problem.  You have all the rights you want, but the government is free to trample on them, making them moot.
04:16 Nocte And heterosexuals...
04:16 Nocte Yeah.
04:16 Nocte If they feel like being jerks.
04:17 VanessaE and right now, government and religion are trampling on LGBT rights in a number of areas.
04:17 Nocte Guess what, if a religion does not approve of a thing, say gay marriage. They are not to be forced to do such things.
04:18 VanessaE who cares about religion?
04:18 VanessaE the problem is the State.
04:18 VanessaE i.e. the government.
04:19 VanessaE gays aren't going to, in mass numbers, force unwilling churches to perform their ceremonies - they want to force, and for good reason, the GOVERNMENT to recognize such
04:19 Nocte Who cares about religion? Religious people who have their freedom of speech. ;)
04:19 VanessaE there are plenty of churches out there with clergy willing to perform same-sex weddings.
04:19 VanessaE but until the governments wise up, the fight will continue.
04:19 Nocte Also, the link I posted earlier show how far Gays can go if they don't get their way.
04:19 VanessaE "who cares" == "when did I say anything"
04:19 VanessaE yeah I saw that.  Every group has their fringe elements.
04:20 Nocte Which basically is blackmail and extortion.
04:20 VanessaE name one who doesn't have people who would go to extremes to make their points.
04:20 VanessaE one group*
04:20 Nocte Define 'extremes'.
04:21 VanessaE "go to extremes" is a common phrase here and means to go beyond what most would consider a normal, proper means of doing something.
04:21 VanessaE suing a church for that sort of practice is going to extremes.
04:21 Nocte You mean 'non-civil' way of doing things?
04:21 VanessaE suing a state government, for example, is perfectly acceptable.
04:22 VanessaE shooting someone for jaywalking is an extreme measure.  writing him a ticket is not.
04:22 Nocte Yup.
04:22 Nocte That would be considered an overkill. But yeah.
04:22 VanessaE exactly.
04:22 Nocte I get the point. ;)
04:22 VanessaE suing that church?  overkill - just find a better church.
04:23 VanessaE suing the state for violating equal protection?  appropriate.
04:23 Nocte Don't support your beliefs? Ignore them. Move on. :p
04:23 VanessaE exactly, I agree with you on that.
04:23 Nocte Basically what would be appropirate.
04:23 Nocte Damn it.
04:23 Nocte This month has been hell because of the typos.
04:24 VanessaE but when it comes to the state, it's up to the people to decide if they are being governed in their best interests, and if they decide they are not, they have the right, as spelled out in our country's most sacred documents, to fight for change.
04:25 Nocte VanessaE, is this 'homophobic' to you? I support civil unions but not gay marriages in a Church? :p
04:25 VanessaE that's all the LGBT folk want is right, proper governance with equal rights under all conditions.  the same thing any reasonable person would expect if you swapped out "LGBT" for, oh let's say, "black".
04:26 Nocte Hehe.
04:26 VanessaE Nocte: it depends on why you'd support one over the other if they are supposed to theoretically be the same
04:27 Nocte Since its not really fitting since Bible defines the marriage as between man and woman. :|
04:27 VanessaE where does the bible define it?
04:27 Nocte Or, hey: Why be married when you are going to face troubles? Stay single!
04:27 VanessaE where is the word "marriage" or "wedding" used in direct context to man vs. woman?
04:28 Nocte Let me search.
04:28 Nocte I'll find it.
04:28 VanessaE as I recall, the closest was the claim that man shall "cleave" to woman and vice versa.
04:28 VanessaE and those were supposed to be punishments.
04:28 VanessaE (adam and eve, post-eating-of-the-tree)
04:29 Nocte 7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. <-
04:29 VanessaE what passage is that from?
04:29 Nocte 1 Corinthians 7
04:29 VanessaE corinthians.  a christian book.
04:29 VanessaE try going back a little more.
04:30 Nocte Jesus also says something like: Didn't God creat man and woman?
04:30 Nocte In the bible.
04:30 VanessaE and even then, that is not a definition of marriage.  It does not say in that text that only that specific arrangement is permitted.
04:31 VanessaE beats me if Jesus said that or not.  no one knows what he said since his life wasn't documented until like 60 years after he died.
04:31 VanessaE (I forget when it was Saul came on the scene)
04:32 Nocte Anywas: People say divorce isn't Christian... Hmm.
04:32 VanessaE but that's not relevent
04:33 VanessaE the bible never actually defines that marriage can only ever be a man-woman relationship (and indeed, most marriages back then were man-and-many-women)
04:33 VanessaE so techncially,
04:33 Nocte Also: You could take a lot of the stuff rom the Bible as sort of phropecy stuff if you are into conspiracy theories. Haha.
04:33 VanessaE same-sex marriage was already well established in biblical times :P
04:33 Nocte By the Romans.
04:33 Nocte ;)
04:34 Nocte And the Roman emperors enjoyed a lot of same sex fun... Some were bit weird... WEIRD...
04:34 VanessaE I'm not talking about romans.
04:34 cy1 Nocte: My wife is a man, your arugument is invalid
04:34 VanessaE I'm talking about Hebrews and other "of G*d" races.
04:35 Nocte Wait, talking about races? Isn't that like, racist? /joke.
04:35 * VanessaE looks at cy1 ..  o.O
04:35 cy1 VanessaE: I don't have a wife. I'm lying again. To prove a point.
04:35 Nocte Haha, also: Remember why Sodom And Gommorah was destroyed?
04:35 Nocte This is in the Old Testament.
04:35 VanessaE Nocte: the bible talks of various marriages in general terms, and most of them are man-woman-woman-woman-...-woman.  E.g. polygamous.  Ergo, same-sex marriage was already established.
04:36 Nocte Were*
04:36 Nocte The men basically slept with every person that came in there.
04:36 VanessaE yeah, they were destroyed because of forced rape.
04:36 VanessaE it wasn't what they did - it was why they did it and the fact that it was forced upon the visitors.
04:37 Nocte Yeah.
04:37 Nocte Talk about a 'warm' welcome...
04:37 * Nocte will stop joking.
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04:38 Nocte Also: Biblical times include Romans btw.
04:38 VanessaE indeed, but I'm talking about early biblical, as in BCE.
04:38 Nocte And the Romans were pretty much the enemy in Bible in a way.
04:39 Nocte While Jesus was hanging around in there.
04:39 VanessaE before the romans it was the Egyptians and whoever else was aroub
04:39 VanessaE around*
04:39 Nocte Yeah.
04:39 Nocte Well, Egyptians were slavers and stuff.
04:39 VanessaE and it was the same story then too
04:40 VanessaE the romans just found different ways of expressing the same behaviors as the egyptians did
04:41 Nocte Hmm...
04:41 VanessaE so, you never answered my question
04:41 Nocte What question?
04:42 Nocte Marriage? It's defined in the book written by Christians and that's how Christians should act... :|
04:42 VanessaE or rather, my request for clarification:  why a civil union but not a marriage if they's supposed to be legally identical?
04:43 VanessaE it was never defined in the bible, it was defined by mankind before the bible even existed.
04:43 VanessaE didn't we just establish that?
04:43 Nocte Since most LGBT don't really believe in the Bible. :|
04:43 VanessaE (you're not the only one who has typing troubles today)
04:44 VanessaE actually I'd have to say that's not true.
04:44 Nocte Hehe.. I know a person who has typing troubles all the time.
04:44 VanessaE statistically speaking.
04:45 VanessaE so, yet again:  why a civil union but not a marriage if they's supposed to be legally identical?
04:45 Nocte Well, how many do believe then? :p
04:46 Nocte Well, gay marriage in the church does not feel right.
04:46 Nocte Plain and simple.
04:46 VanessaE "does not feel right"
04:46 VanessaE and there, folks, is where the argument falls apart.
04:46 VanessaE I would guess no less than half of the LGBT community holds the bible sacred to some degree, probably a fair number more than that.
04:47 VanessaE (I don't have numbers to back that up though)
04:47 Nocte And Bible states: Each Husband should have a Wife and the other way around.
04:47 VanessaE yeah and where does it say that a husband can't have a husband?  and vice versa?
04:48 Nocte That is where it states how it should be.
04:48 VanessaE a prescription for one thing is not a proscription against it's inverse.
04:49 Menche "...the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful..."
04:49 Nocte Oh also...
04:49 VanessaE "what is shameful", as defined by man.  of course.
04:49 VanessaE and where is it written about marriage?
04:49 Nocte Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. <- God wants you to have self-control.
04:50 VanessaE bah, another satan argument.
04:50 VanessaE satan does not exist.
04:50 Nocte Really...?
04:50 VanessaE really.
04:50 Menche [citation needed]
04:50 VanessaE you prove he does.
04:51 VanessaE you made the assertion.  [citation needed]
04:51 Menche Nocte just mentioned a passage that says he does.
04:51 VanessaE and a passage is not proof.
04:51 VanessaE a passage is a passage of text.
04:52 Menche a passage from Scripture is proof.
04:52 VanessaE no.
04:52 VanessaE scripture is not proof.
04:52 VanessaE scripture is a book.
04:52 VanessaE a book is not proof by itself.
04:52 Nocte So neither is a scientific paper proof then.
04:52 Nocte It goes both ways.
04:52 Menche it is a true book, so it is proof.
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04:53 VanessaE a scientific paper is proof because stuff got tested, documented, and replicated.
04:53 VanessaE Menche: it is not proof, any more than Huckleberry Finn is proof of the general nature of the south.
04:53 Nocte Does it mean that it works the same every time?
04:53 Nocte Not its not.
04:53 Nocte No it does not* Fuu....
04:54 Menche right, Huckleberry Finn is fiction...
04:54 VanessaE Nocte: in the case of a scientific result, yes.  when it fails, either the theory has to be changed or the test has to be repeated.
04:54 VanessaE Menche: why?  because you say so?
04:54 VanessaE here's a hint:  the bible is fiction too.
04:54 Menche no.
04:54 Nocte Really?
04:54 VanessaE prove it.
04:54 VanessaE prove it is not a work of fiction.
04:54 Nocte Archeological proof that Bible's stories happened.
04:54 Nocte Go look them up.
04:55 VanessaE Nocte: that's proves that some events happened.  where's the "word of G*d" in there?
04:55 kaeza aaaaaanyway, time for bed and this is getting boring. night all
04:55 VanessaE I'm pretty sure Noah's Ark is up there on Mt. Ararat because of the great flood.  Doesn't mean the rest of the bible is proof of anything.
04:55 VanessaE night kaeza
04:55 Nocte So you are disapproving proof?
04:56 VanessaE science works by trying to disprove things by finding or showing proof that the thing in question is untrue.  When that fails, those things tend to be accepted as true.
04:57 VanessaE ironic I should say that
04:57 VanessaE I know exactly what you're gonna say next.
04:57 Nocte What is it? Hmm.. *is acting like he's curious*
04:58 VanessaE nevertheless, we're talking about the authenticity of a piece of media.
04:58 VanessaE we have no evidence that G*d himself penned the words therein, nor that He told others what to say, except for the book itself.
04:59 VanessaE ergo, a piece of media makes the claim that it is authoritative, and therefore it should be taken as such.
04:59 VanessaE circular logic.
04:59 * Nocte sighs.
05:00 Nocte Seems like you are not even trying to debate or see others views.
05:00 Nocte Just accusing and accusing. :|
05:00 VanessaE If I write my magnum opus and sign it as, say, Ada Lovelace, and somehow get it passed around without anyone knowing, does that make it Ada's work?
05:00 Nocte Ada could be a pen name. So there you go.
05:00 VanessaE yes or no.
05:01 VanessaE of course the correct answer is no.
05:01 VanessaE the bible is in the same situation.  It was penned by Moses (all but the last couple of paragraphs), but we only have his word to go on that what he wrote was G*d's will.
05:02 Nocte He was the Prophet btw.
05:02 VanessaE therefore, we have to rely on a human mind with all its failings as proof.
05:02 VanessaE he was an ordinary man and has said as much.
05:03 VanessaE "Who am I that you should lay this burden on me?" or some such, at the burning bush. And he lost that status about 80 years later.
05:03 Nocte Well yeah.
05:03 Nocte He doubted himself.
05:03 Nocte Like any sane man would doubt.
05:03 VanessaE because he was human, nothing more.
05:03 VanessaE hell even G*d saw him as such - otherwise why order him to remove his shoes?
05:05 Nocte Hmm.
05:06 Nocte Didn't Moses also say something like: There shall be one like me... etc at some point?
05:06 VanessaE I don't recall anything like that
05:06 VanessaE but I could just as easily say there will be one like ME some day, and statistically there will be.
05:07 VanessaE (aside from the old adage that everyone has some kind of doppleganger)
05:07 Nocte Ah never mind. :p
05:08 cy1 Moses was such a Mary Sue self insert.
05:08 Nocte Haha, cy1.
05:09 VanessaE heh
05:09 Nocte Marty Stu* isn't it?
05:09 Nocte Or whatever the male name was.
05:09 cy1 w/ev
05:10 cy1 It's the character where you're like "no instead of all those guys who did all those awesome things, my character did all of them at once, and always won at everything, despite his tragic backstory"
05:10 Nocte Yeah, I know.
05:11 Nocte God's favorite punishment? 40+ days in the desert! >:D
05:11 * Nocte jokes.
05:16 Nocte And also: Only proof Christians need is the Bible to make decisions for the Church... Also, don't the LGBT community just do whatever they want because 'it feels right' to them? :P
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05:27 VanessaE they do what IS right.
05:29 us}0gb Who is doing what now?
05:29 VanessaE nevermind, it's the same argument as before :P
05:31 * us}0gb looks up logs
05:31 VanessaE also hi ;)
05:32 us}0gb Hello!
05:35 us}0gb I'm so tired, but I can't sleep ... I hope we've switched roles or something and it's not both of us now.
05:35 VanessaE nope, I'm in a "can't sleep" state of mind too
05:35 us}0gb Drats.
05:35 us}0gb I got up every hour on the hour last night, so I really could use some rest.
05:35 VanessaE won't be much longer for me though
05:36 us}0gb Okay, good.
05:36 VanessaE translation:  "Vanessa, go the fuck to bed so I don't have to stay up and chat with anyone."
05:36 VanessaE ;)
05:37 us}0gb That's not what I mean at all .... I meant that in an "I don't want you to suffer" kind of way ....
05:37 VanessaE I'm kidding :)
05:37 VanessaE I've got a car that needs worked on tomorrow (with a little luck) so I definitely have to get to sleep soon
05:38 us}0gb A new car, or did something happen to your old one?
05:39 VanessaE my existing one.  screwed up rocker arm support bar, so it's running on 7 cyl and making a lot of racket.  same problem as before, but a replacement came in the mail yesterday, so now I can fix it for good.
05:39 VanessaE landlord lent us his truck to use until the repair is complete, thankfully
05:40 us}0gb That's awfully nice of him!
05:40 VanessaE yes indeed
05:41 VanessaE I just don't cotton to the idea of pulling that valve cover off..... because it's the firewall-side of the motor
05:41 VanessaE (front wheel drive/transverse mounted engine)
05:42 us}0gb I'm not sure what that means, but I wish you luck. I don't know anything about cars. Well, very little, anyway.
05:43 VanessaE there's not much to 'em
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05:44 VanessaE my skills are a little bit rusty, but I can still make repairs
05:45 VanessaE I'm more worried about having the tools to do it
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06:47 JackGruff all repos already up-to-date ;_;
06:48 us}0gb Why is that bad?
06:48 JackGruff no updates
06:50 JackGruff no updates from minetest mods, to be specific
06:50 us}0gb Ah, got it.
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07:03 VanessaE bbl
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07:47 sfan5 hi everyone
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08:25 JamesTait Good morning all; happy CAPS LOCK DAY! :-D
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08:30 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3746078679.png
08:30 nore ^ game of life in mesecons
08:30 nore sfan5, tell me what you think of that
08:31 sfan5 pretty awesome
08:33 nore each cell is 10x8x10
08:33 nore want a screenshot of the inside?
08:48 nore sfan5: nore.mesecons.net/4cells.we
08:49 nore stack it in both directions
08:49 nore connect a 1-tick pulse generator to it
08:49 nore i.e.
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08:50 nore --NOT AND -
08:50 nore |         |
08:50 nore ----------- input
08:50 nore and enjoy
08:55 thexyz why no you use attachments
08:55 nore I could..
08:56 nore anyway, it's too late
08:56 nore have you seen the screenshot, btw?
08:58 thexyz what screenshot?
08:58 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3746078679.png that one
09:02 thexyz and what's it?
09:03 nore game of life simulation in mesecons
09:03 nore http://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Conway%27s_Game_of_Life
09:03 nore (I've built a bigger version since the screenshot)
09:07 thexyz now make prime numbers generator
09:08 nore I could... it would be big, though
09:08 nore and slow
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09:09 thexyz but fun
09:10 nore I am trying to run a 13x13 configuration for now... (I don't know if it will work)
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09:20 nore wow, a 14x14 grid lags *a lot*
09:32 nore some better screenshots: nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3749724086.png
09:32 nore nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3749749326.png
09:41 thexyz Exio4 ordered one pizza(s) yesterday
09:41 nore ???
09:42 nore why do you say that?
09:42 thexyz that's a reply to > Exio4both unity(s) suck
09:42 Exio4 hmm pizza
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10:15 sfan5 nore: thanks, I'll try it
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10:37 sfan5 nore: nothing happens
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10:44 Wuzzy hi all
10:46 Wuzzy I try to get my head around the “drop” thing in the node definiton
10:46 Wuzzy I know you can make complex drops
10:46 Wuzzy and there is a field called “rarity”
10:46 Wuzzy The question is: What exactly does “rarity” do?
10:47 Wuzzy rarity appears in the farming mod, for example.
10:50 Wuzzy Oh, I think I know what it means. It is 1/probability, so a rarity of 1 is a probability of 1, a rarity of 2 is a probability of 1/2 etc.
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10:58 jojoa1997 Hi
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11:36 nore sfan5, how did you connect it?
11:37 nore you need:
11:37 nore 1 - to turn on a few cells (for that, just put a switch to turn the display on, and remove it)
11:38 nore 2 - to connect the 1-tick pulse generator to the clock wire
11:39 nore this wire is the topmost one
11:39 nore right below the display
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13:37 sfan5 nore: oh, ok
13:37 nore does it work now?
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14:16 NekoGloop GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING
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14:17 germa hi to all!
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14:22 germa italiani?
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14:25 germa bye ahah
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14:31 ShadowNinja Wuzzy: rarity indicates the likelyhood or chance that that will be droped. (At least from the sound of it)
14:31 ShadowNinja Er, nevermind.
14:32 sfan5 nore: the cell just turned on
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14:38 Wuzzy hi again
14:38 Wuzzy my chat program just crashed Y_Y
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15:03 reactor o/
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15:10 Dan_D I have made a suffocation-related suggestion on the dev chat
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15:13 Megaf is it possible to undo a rollback?
15:14 reactor Megaf: how come you need that?
15:14 reactor Haven't you been taught to think before you decide?
15:14 ShadowNinja Megaf: No, restore from a backup.
15:14 Megaf I rollbacked all actions of a player, and then I realized that he built a lot
15:15 reactor Good luck with that player.
15:15 ShadowNinja reactor: rollback_check only shows the most recent actor, which is sometimes a good plaer trying to fix things.
15:15 Megaf Im starting to dislike minetest, I can ban, but cannon unban, I can rollback, but cant undo that
15:15 Megaf so, I can not make any mistake
15:15 reactor In life, you can't, either.
15:15 Megaf I dont like that
15:15 ShadowNinja Megaf: /unban is fixed, update.
15:15 reactor That doesn't mean you don't.
15:16 reactor If you dislike MT, well... roll your own game?
15:20 Nocte Wait... No unban? o.o
15:20 Nocte Seems like a simple thing to have.
15:21 ShadowNinja Nocte: There is unban, but it was broken a while back. Megaf is running a old version with the broken /unban.
15:21 Nocte Ah.
15:24 reactor Also.
15:24 reactor How can you call yourself a UNIX user if you don't do backups regularly?
15:25 reactor s/UNIX/[OS NAME HERE]/
15:26 * ShadowNinja has daily automatic backups with rsync on his server.
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15:32 VanessaE hi all
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15:32 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:33 VanessaE hi
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15:34 Yepoleb hi
15:34 sfan5[Mac] hi
15:34 NakedFury hello
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15:37 Jordach Exio4, You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-110%)
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15:40 Jordach hold the fuck on a second
15:40 Yepoleb hi Calinou
15:40 Jordach when did we allow attaching images to forum posts
15:40 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115144#p115144
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15:40 Exio4 You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-46,016%)
15:41 Calinou hi :)
15:41 thexyz Jordach: never
15:41 Calinou You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-12,491.5%)
15:41 thexyz we do have attachments though https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7486
15:42 Exio4 Calinou: how many lawyers?
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15:42 markveidemanis Hi
15:42 Calinou 706
15:43 Exio4 3250 here
15:43 Calinou hi markveidemanis :)
15:43 thexyz everyone should now totally use attachments
15:43 markveidemanis How can i make my kindle server faster?
15:44 markveidemanis Or kill android somehow...
15:44 markveidemanis Advanced task manager?
15:44 Calinou faster?
15:44 markveidemanis overclock
15:44 Exio4 overclock it
15:44 Calinou if it lags when you're connected locally to it, then the CPU is limited or you are out of RAM.
15:44 Calinou overclocking is risky, requires rooting and won't help much.
15:44 markveidemanis Oo what if i kill all this shit
15:45 markveidemanis com.amazon.device.settings
15:45 Exio4 Calinou: it helps but kills battery :P
15:46 markveidemanis 256MB RAM
15:47 reactor markveidemanis: o/
15:47 thexyz throw it out and buy a pc
15:47 reactor VanessaE: o/, I'm a bit late, though
15:47 reactor PlizAdam: how's the science?
15:48 reactor markveidemanis: use hammer.
15:48 markveidemanis I have a fucking pc, this is a proof of concept
15:49 markveidemanis I also have a proper server
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15:49 reactor This is proof of your stupidity. Who would ever host things on a bloody mobile device?
15:50 markveidemanis I have 2 FUCKING 8 CORE SERVERS
15:50 markveidemanis This. is. proof.
15:50 thexyz WOW SO COOL
15:50 markveidemanis I want a lan game to work fast
15:51 VanessaE multiple cores are mostly useless to minetest right now
15:51 VanessaE more than 2 anyway
15:51 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe 3 to speed mapgen up a bit
15:52 markveidemanis I have 2 on this pc, 8 on my website server, and OC hosts a server for me with 8
15:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: no.  mapgen multithread is buggy
15:52 PilzAdam I use it all the time and havent seen anything buggy
15:52 Exio4 more cores are actually useful when talking about client
15:52 markveidemanis Try turning it off and telling the difference
15:52 Calinou you mean, "buggy is multithread mapgen"
15:52 Calinou --multithreaded IRC
15:52 VanessaE according to hmmmm, multicore (and if so configured to use it) leads to cut-offs at mapblock borders
15:53 Calinou cave generation issues apparently too, but I never used multicore mapgen
15:54 Exio4 calinou is the guy who is always against multithreading and says shits about it but never tries it
15:54 Exio4 at least try it man
15:59 Calinou I'm joking, Exio4
16:02 markveidemanis 5.81.157.109:30010
16:02 NekoGloopMkII yoda talks in multithreaded
16:02 Exio4 lol NekoGloopMkII
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16:05 pietrko Hi, is it possible to add any other force field than gravity?
16:05 VanessaE such as>
16:05 VanessaE ?
16:06 VanessaE technic has a force field generator that works something like science fiction tv shows usually use
16:06 pietrko there are many kind of force fields
16:06 pietrko i.e: magnetic, electrostatic etc
16:07 VanessaE making such a mod may be possible, dunno
16:07 pietrko for example if i want to simulate effects of wind
16:07 pietrko in some closed region of space
16:07 pietrko let's say:
16:08 pietrko i want to create a twister in some 3meters wide tube
16:08 pietrko twister/torando
16:08 VanessaE this is possible if you attach a player to an entity and then move the entity around
16:08 pietrko and i want to apply some force(velocity change) to each entity in the tornado effect
16:09 VanessaE see for example the carts, hovercraft, cars, or boats mods
16:11 pietrko hmm it could work
16:13 pietrko but it is a workaround, what if i want to create a player spell  which creates a stream of wind
16:13 pietrko the wind pushes the entities depending on their mass/size
16:14 VanessaE easily done
16:14 Exio4 pietrko: not possible...
16:14 VanessaE you'll have to move the entities yourself of course, but there's nothing preventing such a mod
16:15 * Jordach has a digital camera
16:15 * Jordach might start a rival to HDX
16:16 VanessaE or you could contribute to it :P
16:17 Jordach maybe i want my own flavour
16:17 Jordach and .svg files arent photos
16:17 pietrko in this moment only way to move entities is to set their position or velocity via: LuaEntitySAO:setvelocity( ), setpos() am i right?
16:18 pietrko *at this point
16:18 markveidemanis join 5.81.157.109:30010, its hosted on an android kindle, just finished tweaking it
16:20 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115221#p115221
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16:25 Jordach Exio4, wat: Your mech suit keeps you safe while making deals. Sell an additional 50% of sales batches at a time
16:25 NekoGloopMkII http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-EK-72rwOU
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16:28 Exio4 Jordach: $/s?
16:29 Jordach Exio4, 3 Mil./S
16:29 Exio4 $27,434,712,500 per second
16:29 Jordach DAYUM
16:29 pietrko How to get entites basing on their location?  I saw only one function for that in whole API?
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16:30 PilzAdam pietrko, get_objects_inside_radius()
16:30 pietrko what if i want to get entites in box?
16:30 pietrko or in the other shape
16:32 NekoGloopMkII fuck you
16:32 Jordach !title https://github.com/sfan5/m​inetestbot-modules/pull/4
16:32 MinetestBot Jordach: Make MinetestBot point at wiki.minetest.net and not wiki.minetest.com by Jordach · Pull Request #4 [...]
16:33 NekoGloopMkII we don't add support for user suggestions
16:33 NekoGloopMkII that would waste time
16:33 NekoGloopMkII and users are stupid
16:33 Jordach just being meticulous about MinetestBot again :P
16:33 NekoGloopMkII [/minetest-dev-mode]
16:34 * Jordach pokes sfan5
16:35 ShadowNinja pietrko: I saw a function that did that. It used get_objects_inside_radius with a slightly higher radius and then filtered the results to get a box.
16:36 pietrko ok i see, we have a get_pos function
16:37 Jordach > PilzAdam doesn't like opinions
16:37 Jordach true dat.
16:40 pietrko How should i prepare blend file for animated mobs?
16:40 Jordach they need to be converted to .x or .b3d
16:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: nu, eppes?  something wrong with your keyboard? (-dev)
16:41 PilzAdam what?
16:41 pietrko what about animations, how can i access them in game
16:42 Jordach you need to define animation ranges
16:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: -dev
16:45 PilzAdam VanessaE, I will reply when I have thought about your question/statement
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16:45 VanessaE fine
16:45 VanessaE seeing as how I asked it 40 mins ago, something could have been said in the meantime...
16:48 * ShadowNinja also has a question that PilzAdam is waiting to think about before answering.
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16:49 Wuzzy WTF? What is wrong with me?
16:49 VanessaE ?
16:49 Wuzzy I worked again on the wiki all day :-(
16:50 Wuzzy I should better stop now.
16:50 Wuzzy XD
16:50 PilzAdam Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115221#p115221 this video doesnt exist
16:50 Jordach does on my end
16:50 * ShadowNinja gave up on checking all of those edits a while ago...
16:51 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, I have thought about your idea
16:51 ShadowNinja [991 actions in the last 30 days]
16:51 PilzAdam I think there should be a ban manager that is done in Lua
16:51 PilzAdam the engine just calls is_banned(playername, ip) and write()
16:52 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: You didn't understand the question.
16:52 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I meant a ban manager for #minetest.
16:52 PilzAdam oh
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16:53 TheLastProject What's wrong with /ban?
16:53 PilzAdam Jordach, checked with 4 proxies
16:54 PilzAdam TheLastProject, there is nothing wrong with it, its just not modifieable by Lua
16:54 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: It's permanent and often makes a ineffective or sweeping ban.
16:54 PilzAdam ask Peacock, he made somewhat hacky mod to be able to rangeban
16:54 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: Wait, IRC /ban or Minetest /ban.
16:54 reactor rangeban rage!
16:54 TheLastProject You were talking about #mintest, so IRC I assumed
16:54 ShadowNinja kaeza's xban is the best so far.
16:55 TheLastProject Also, if you call them ineffective you're doing it kinda wrong :P
16:55 reactor markveidemanis: how's the server, btw?
16:55 TheLastProject You ban on hostname, not nickname :P
16:55 reactor handsome?
16:56 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: IRC bans are nick!user@host. Some use *!uers@host, some nick!*@*, some *!*@host, etc.
16:56 TheLastProject *!*@host is definitely the most effective
16:56 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: You will ban extire proxies like irccloud if ou do that.
16:56 TheLastProject Only if you do that to such a proxy
16:56 PilzAdam Jordach, gimme a youtu.be link
16:57 TheLastProject Could always mute everyone on the proxy for a bit until whoever is annoying gives up
16:57 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: *!*@host is usually best, but *!user@host is better when a prox is involved.
16:57 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: irccloud buts the uid in the ident field.
16:57 ShadowNinja puts*
16:58 TheLastProject I have never even heard of irccloud
16:58 Nocte Hehe... "I herd you don't like griefing, so I decided to put some lava in your water!!" >:D /jokes.
16:58 reactor nerd?
16:58 reactor You nerd?
16:58 TheLastProject But that's because I generally avoid anything which has the word "cloud" in it
16:58 TheLastProject Because it generally doesn't mean any good
16:58 reactor oh yeah
16:59 reactor if you want to store data, buy storage
16:59 Nocte 'cloud sharing', anyone?
16:59 Nocte I hate that's becoming a thing.
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16:59 TheLastProject AKA: irccloud is a combination of bouncer and web client?
16:59 reactor Fuck it. I run a FTP for that.
16:59 TheLastProject Nocte: I just put stuff on my server and link people :|
16:59 reactor s/a/an/
16:59 reactor An hero.
17:00 Nocte I actually need some space for Xbox360. Haha.
17:00 Nocte And don't want to use Cloud storage.
17:00 ShadowNinja TheLastProject: Yes, webchat+bouncer.
17:00 reactor eggs box
17:00 Nocte In case the connection screws up.
17:00 * TheLastProject shrugs
17:00 Nocte And it does it often.
17:00 TheLastProject Sounds dumb to use that
17:00 reactor Nocte: how many eggs does that box store?
17:00 ShadowNinja (+phone app and such)
17:01 Nocte Dunno...
17:01 Nocte Any recommended storage for Xbox360  btw? :|
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17:02 TheLastProject Microsoft Cloud stuff? Does it even matter if you use their web service or your local storage if the device has backdoors that allows them to access it anyway?
17:03 * TheLastProject would recommend against using an Xbox360 :P
17:03 Nocte Hah.
17:03 Nocte I want the stuff on a physical thing because connection may screw up...
17:04 Nocte And you need internet in order to access the Cloud storage.
17:04 TheLastProject Obviously
17:05 TheLastProject Well, if you need local storage, either use some place on your local network (PC/NAS/Whatever that junk supports) or get an external harddrive
17:05 TheLastProject Can't imagine you really having another choice
17:05 Nocte Yeah, some Flash Drive is required for the storage..
17:05 Nocte Additional that is.
17:07 Jordach Nocte, you have a 360
17:07 Jordach pm me that gamertag
17:07 Jordach :D
17:07 * Jordach happens to know PilzAdam's
17:07 Jordach Nocte, a 16gb flash pen will suffice, that's what i use
17:08 * PilzAdam happens to have no access to his xbox currently, so that ^ doesnt really matter
17:08 Nocte No! Stalker. ;)
17:08 * Nocte jokes.
17:08 Jordach PilzAdam, i played the BF4 beta
17:08 Nocte Well, what if I want to save DLC? :p
17:08 Jordach it was worth it
17:09 Nocte I might get Battlefield 4 btw now that you mentioned it.
17:09 Jordach Nocte, then in that case a 64gb pen drive
17:09 PilzAdam Nocte, dont
17:09 Nocte Why not?
17:09 PilzAdam EA
17:09 Jordach PilzAdam, there's no online pass
17:09 Nocte They removed the online pass.
17:09 Nocte Damn it.
17:09 PilzAdam they are still using this DLC system
17:09 PilzAdam I fucking bought the game, why do I have to continue paying for it?
17:10 Jordach Nocte, you can play with gold (i refresh at christmas time purely because it's cheaper then(
17:10 Nocte Yeah, I know.
17:10 Jordach but my next console is the PS4
17:10 Nocte And its only 5€ a month.
17:10 PilzAdam also, do you know what they did with the new SimSity?
17:10 PilzAdam *City
17:10 Jordach PilzAdam, it crashed
17:10 Jordach just like GTA Online
17:11 Nocte Well, other option is Call of Duty: Griefers.
17:11 Nocte ;)
17:11 Jordach PilzAdam,
17:11 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOgVB-uK4L8
17:11 PilzAdam its ridiciulous to not be able to play a game like Simcity offline, or not be able to save it on your computer
17:12 Nocte I'm also thinking of getting PS4.. There seems to be only three 'exclusives' I would want Mirror's Edge 2, Kingdom Hearts III and the Thief thin. :P
17:12 Nocte Thing*
17:12 Jordach MIRRORS EDGE FTW
17:12 Jordach YES
17:12 Jordach YES
17:13 Nocte I only wish for a good sale I could get PS4 from. :p
17:13 Wuzzy Speaking of “Thief”. Did you hear of The Dark Mod? :=)
17:13 PilzAdam you are allowed to buy the PS4, just so you dont buy the xbox one
17:13 Nocte The Dark Mod..?
17:13 Nocte PilzAdam, I didn't even bother trying to be impressed by Xbox One.
17:13 Nocte Hah.
17:14 Nocte Brb, food.
17:14 Wuzzy The Dark Mod is a fork of Doom 3 to be a clone of the Thief series game
17:14 Wuzzy and its free in both senses :-)
17:14 Wuzzy I played it, I liked it. :-)))
17:15 Wuzzy Okay now for a MINETEST (!) question (xD): Is there a hard limit on how many nodes I can register in my mods?
17:15 VanessaE nope.
17:15 Wuzzy phew!
17:16 VanessaE if you tweak mapnode.h, you can max out at a bit below 65K in total
17:16 VanessaE by default, about 4k
17:16 PilzAdam Wuzzy, that means: yes, there is
17:16 Wuzzy well technically that is a hard limit ;)
17:16 Wuzzy but 4k is high enough for me
17:17 VanessaE I'm pretty sure he meant a per-mod liit
17:17 VanessaE limit*
17:17 Wuzzy no no in total
17:18 Wuzzy well is there even a per-mod limit?
17:18 PilzAdam no
17:18 VanessaE there's no per-mod limit
17:18 Wuzzy no surprise
17:18 VanessaE and the total limit is whatever the devs eventually decide to make it in mapnode.h
17:18 VanessaE if they ever decide.
17:18 Wuzzy ok thanks
17:18 VanessaE wtf are you guys waiting for?
17:19 PilzAdam VanessaE, we wait for 0.4.8, as everyone else too :-p
17:19 Jordach release 0.4.8 then you lazy bunch of clumps
17:19 VanessaE um, tht's the sort of change that belongs in a point release.
17:19 Exio4 that would release a bugged and shitty 0.4.8 instead of a good one
17:20 Wuzzy OK now I see. The hard limit is 4096. You can’t have more than 4096 nodes.
17:20 Exio4 would be releasing**
17:20 * Jordach makes a malicious mod that makes 4000 nodes
17:20 VanessaE Wuzzy: edit mapnode.h line 46
17:21 Nocte Hmm.
17:21 Wuzzy I don’t have to because 4096 is absolutely enough for me. :-)
17:21 VanessaE my game depends on a bit more :)
17:21 Wuzzy well that would be fun idea
17:21 VanessaE (probably about 5000 nodes in total)
17:21 Wuzzy make a mod which makes 1000s of junk nodes
17:22 Wuzzy maybe all of them are randomized
17:22 VanessaE someone did that already to test
17:22 Jordach Wuzzy, [18:20:41] -*- Jordach makes a malicious mod that makes 4000 nodes
17:22 Jordach it's disguised :P
17:22 Wuzzy and the best:  SPAWN them all
17:22 Exio4 that would pretty l33t
17:22 Wuzzy total chaos
17:22 Exio4 an ABM that replaces dirt, sand, stone and water for those blocks
17:22 Wuzzy and every time you make a new world you have different nodes XD
17:22 Jordach 4096 nodes is the area that is 16^3 btw
17:22 Nocte Too bad new next gen games will cost around 70-80€.
17:23 Jordach Nocte, PS4 will be cheaper
17:23 Nocte As if we weren't fucked hard enough with the current gen costs. :|
17:23 Wuzzy its just a silly idea, I don’t think I will actually do it
17:23 TheLastProject As long as people accept the price increase, it will keep increasing
17:23 Nocte Which is new game costs 50-60€.
17:23 Nocte Due to VAT and shipping costs.
17:23 TheLastProject Simple economics say: If you're pissed off at the high prices, don't buy it, or you support them
17:23 Exio4 people would buy games anyway
17:24 TheLastProject Less buying -> Lower prices
17:24 Nocte Good thing PS4 supports used games. *trollface*
17:24 Wuzzy Wow, TheLastProject is an economics expert.
17:24 Wuzzy xD
17:25 TheLastProject I just followed economics class and am giving an overly simplified simplification
17:25 TheLastProject Of course there's more to it, but that's all that applies in this context
17:25 Exio4 it is more like simple logic
17:25 TheLastProject That as well
17:25 Wuzzy Capitalístomon. Gotta boycott em all!
17:25 Exio4 if they can't sell something, they will need to lower the price..
17:25 TheLastProject Exactly
17:25 Wuzzy (insert big trollgrin here)
17:26 Nocte https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/​images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMudumohKcStQsS6​tg53pmt_f4UdA-DHEjvt2YJVHS8F5u87TH <-?
17:26 Jordach Wuzzy, trollface
17:27 Nocte Only trolls would use .JPG.
17:27 Jordach nope.jpg
17:27 Wuzzy hahaha I know its “trollface”
17:27 TheLastProject gnupe.png
17:27 Jordach fuck you smoking TheLastProject
17:27 Jordach oh right, gnope.png
17:28 Jordach the CC-BY version of trollface
17:28 Nocte Hmm... Too bad that they are including the social media thing to PS4.
17:28 TheLastProject Exactly
17:28 Wuzzy CC-BY???? of trollface???  wtf
17:28 Nocte It's like: "Well done, you gained a level: Would you like to share this with your followers?"
17:28 Nocte Most likely that is.
17:29 Wuzzy obviously the one who used the license was trolling the internetz
17:29 TheLastProject Oh god that stupid nonsense
17:29 TheLastProject Achievements started the stupidity
17:29 TheLastProject "Start the game - 10G"
17:29 Wuzzy Red Ring Of Death: -299.99$
17:30 Exio4 "Being able to don't be stupid when playing with Achivements - infG"
17:30 Exio4 TheLastProject: ^^^
17:30 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/profi​le.php?section=about&amp;id=332
17:30 Jordach :>
17:31 Nocte What next gen games are you guys wanting to play? :p
17:31 TheLastProject Jordach: Why did I say "Exactly" to you? It'd definitely be CC-BY-SA
17:31 Jordach Minetest 0.4.8
17:31 Nocte I Jordach.
17:31 TheLastProject GNU stuff WITHOUT copyleft? Unlikely
17:31 Nocte ...
17:31 Nocte Jordach*
17:31 Nocte Minetest is current gen.
17:31 Jordach but we don't have 0.4.8
17:31 Jordach so it's the next generation from 0.4.7
17:31 VanessaE 0.4.8 is NOT ready to go out imho
17:32 Jordach amiright
17:32 * Nocte facepalms.
17:32 VanessaE not until more bugs get fixed.
17:32 Jordach what bugs, i thought they were gameplay
17:32 Nocte And features.
17:32 Nocte ;)
17:32 Jordach haha
17:32 Jordach zing
17:32 Nocte There's no such a thing as a bug! *bugs the game so he has infinite health and goes kill boss monsters*
17:33 Nocte >:D
17:33 * Nocte jokes.
17:33 Jordach ah fuck! managed to tickle my ears just by shaking my head
17:33 Jordach it worse with headphones :(
17:34 Nocte What's worse? :|
17:34 NekoGloopMkII fixing bugs in minetest?
17:34 NekoGloopMkII it
17:34 NekoGloopMkII it'd be easier to rewrite the game
17:35 Exio4 NekoGloopMkII, rewrite the game by yourself, and then tell us how bug-less is it
17:35 Exio4 before you do that, you could try to be helpful.
17:35 TheLastProject s/before/until/
17:35 Exio4 k
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17:36 Nocte I think Xbox One got beaten to death before its release. :|
17:36 TheLastProject Don't be silly, people still love it
17:37 NekoGloopMkII s/people/microsoft
17:37 TheLastProject They already have Skype on their PCs, having all their conversations recorded. They'd love to have an always-on camera in their bedroom
17:37 Nocte Microsoft Fanboys that is.
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17:37 NekoGloopMkII >skype
17:38 Jordach <- doesnt have skype
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17:51 VanessaE bbl
17:52 Peacock barbecue later
17:52 Peacock sweet
17:53 Jordach in this weather??....oh wait, canadian; forgot
17:53 Peacock weve had it milder here than some american states who got blizzards a week or two ago lol
17:53 Peacock wyoming and south dakota i think
17:54 Peacock interesting story: http://www.digitalbond.com/blog/2013/10/22/call-y​ourself-a-hacker-lose-your-4th-amendment-rights/
17:54 Peacock basically, zealot insists employer should open source product, zealot quits company, steals code, open sources it, RMS would be proud lol
17:55 Peacock of course by the time the courts are done w/ him, he'll have a nice card board box with a stunning view of the rail yards XD
17:56 NekoGloopMkII ಠ_ಠ
17:56 Jordach no underscore NekoGloopMkII
17:56 Jordach oh wait, quassel shows pasted texts
17:56 Jordach well, lowers*
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17:57 * sfan5 pokes Jordach
17:57 * Jordach returns pok
17:57 Jordach poke*
17:57 Jordach sfan5, pull 4 for MinetestBot
17:58 Jordach wiki.minetest.com is outdated :P
17:58 sfan5 Jordach: this is what url MinetestBot would use: http://wiki.minetest.net/wiki/Crafting
17:59 Jordach we can port the pages
17:59 sfan5 no
17:59 Jordach that shouldn't take more than a few hours
17:59 sfan5 click that link
17:59 sfan5 and you will see
18:00 Jordach http://wiki.minetest.net/Crafting
18:00 sfan5 yes
18:00 Jordach same page
18:00 sfan5 you need to remove the "/wiki/" part
18:00 Jordach oh
18:01 Jordach done
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18:01 Jordach hello Evergreen
18:01 Evergreen hey there
18:02 Evergreen sfan5: I really like your tab player list, hope it gets merged
18:02 sfan5 I do hope too :P
18:02 sfan5 Jordach: merged
18:02 Jordach now reload
18:02 Jordach woo
18:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload wiki.py
18:03 MinetestBot sfan5: wiki.py: no such module!
18:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload wiki
18:03 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'wiki' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/wiki.py'> (version: 2013-10-22 18:03:02)
18:03 sfan5 !wik Crafting
18:03 MinetestBot "Crafting is the way in which blocks and items are made in Minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Crafting
18:03 sfan5 \o/
18:03 Jordach (G) 10 - Jordach contributed to something!
18:03 sfan5 !op
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18:03 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions. | Jordach wins a free cookie
18:03 sfan5 !deop
18:03 Jordach \o/
18:04 Jordach so PilzAdam likes people having an opinion now?
18:04 Jordach :>
18:04 sfan5 I don't think he does now
18:04 sfan5 :>
18:04 * sfan5[Mac] pokes sfan5
18:04 * NekoGloopMkII asks about asking to ask questions
18:04 Jordach sfan5, it just wound me up having the older wiki still living
18:04 * sfan5 pokes sfan5[Mac]
18:04 * Jordach slaps both sfan5 and sfan5[Mac]
18:05 * sfan5 asks about NekoGloopMkII asking about asking questions
18:05 * sfan5[Mac] punches Jordach with XCode 3.app
18:05 Jordach lol xcode
18:05 sfan5 time to add a brain to MinetestBot
18:06 MinetestBot sfan5: This insults me!
18:06 MinetestBot (oh nevermind)
18:07 sfan5 see?
18:07 MinetestBot (oh, do mind)
18:07 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
18:07 * MinetestBot purrs...
18:07 MinetestBot (rm -Rf --no-preserve-root /)
18:07 thexyz this is unkind
18:07 MinetestBot nope nope nope
18:07 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Jordach
18:07 Jordach meow
18:07 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RH38aE9.png
18:07 sfan5 this does not make any sense :D
18:07 Jordach new textures for minetest-classic
18:08 thexyz consider using /* instead of --no-preserve-root
18:08 MinetestBot (rm -Rf /*) thexyz: better?
18:09 Nocte Wait, MinetestBot has a brain?
18:09 Nocte You wish. ;)
18:10 thexyz I prefer -r
18:12 sfan5 MinetestBot!
18:12 MinetestBot sfan5!
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18:14 Evergreen Ohaidur cisoun
18:15 thexyz sorry but you were demoted
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18:18 cisoun sup
18:19 Peacock soup
18:20 thexyz oh wow
18:20 thexyz apple announces another useless shit tier device right now
18:21 Peacock well theyre prolly feelin' the pressure from cheaper 'droids
18:28 Evergreen If I ever get a tablet, it's definitely going to be an android
18:28 Exio4 android sucks too
18:29 Exio4 but better than iOS!
18:29 Peacock i have no need for a tablet lol and when the cell contract expires in a few weeks, i wont have much need for a smartphone either... the novelty's worn off
18:30 Exio4 the main usage of my phone are three: wifi antenna, 3g modem, big pendrive
18:31 Peacock half the apps are fancy window dressing for website, 1/4 is a copy of the remaining 1/4 lol
18:31 Evergreen All the new "Open Source" tablet operating systems don't seem to good either
18:31 Exio4 i would prefer a real linux over a fucked one\
18:32 Peacock that would depend if they insist on libre-everything or don't mind using the best tools for any given task
18:33 Exio4 what is wrong with the last?
18:33 Peacock the last what?
18:33 Exio4 having a closed "workaround" to the problem doesn't solve the libre-thing, and makes the problem worse
18:34 Peacock oh you meant latter ;P
18:34 Exio4 er
18:34 Exio4 whatever
18:34 Peacock well it depends what you use computers for - politicizing or getting work done
18:35 Peacock corporate world doesn't care if software is fully libre or not, if it's the best, they'll use it, if not, they're willing to pay for better quality
18:35 Exio4 how is libre related to the price?
18:35 thexyz Exio4: got it; android sucks better
18:35 Peacock i never said it was? advocates care whether something is libre, companies dont
18:36 Exio4 Peacock: "they're willing to pay for better quality"
18:36 thexyz discussions like that are too unhealthy for this channel
18:36 Exio4 yeah, too
18:36 TheLastProject "Open Source software is bad for scalability" - Oracle
18:36 Peacock well yeah, they wont take weaker software because it's free
18:36 sfan5 Jordach: now announcing..... brain for MinetestBot: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/c​ommit/569eaf86e235319a0a2472b718b42c7e2f97271b
18:37 TheLastProject "We try hard to make our Open Source software scalable and fit for every purpose" - Oracle
18:37 sfan5 wat
18:37 Peacock i mean, look at all the older linux guys who've migrated to mac os in the last few years
18:37 sfan5 you can't make things for for every purpose
18:37 sfan5 that has nothing to do with open source
18:37 thexyz sfan5: i hoped for AI
18:37 TheLastProject It's marketing speech
18:37 Exio4 inb4 de icaza
18:37 thexyz when you said "brain"
18:37 Exio4 no markov? :(
18:37 Yepoleb How is the water animation framerate calculated or set?
18:38 sfan5 thexyz: my last attempt at making MinetestBot respond to (well-formed) sentences/questions was kind of a fail
18:39 sfan5 now to.... testing in production!
18:39 Peacock i wont be impressed until minetestbot can make flapjacks :P
18:39 TheLastProject >testing in production
18:39 TheLastProject So I'm not the only one who does that out of laziness
18:40 Exio4 lol TheLastProject
18:40 sfan5 MinetestBot> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 58)
18:40 sfan5 a good start
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18:41 Peacock !seen pie
18:41 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen pie around.
18:41 sfan5 heh
18:41 Peacock no apple pie :(
18:42 sfan5 test
18:42 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'self' is not defined (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 16, in chkdb)
18:42 sfan5 uh-uh-uh
18:42 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'self' is not defined (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 16, in chkdb)
18:42 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
18:42 Peacock it's becoming self-aware
18:42 sfan5 hahaha plol
18:43 Peacock pretty soon ittl' be planting tnt on all the servers and releasing t-100 mobs
18:43 Peacock (killer austrian bots)
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18:58 ShadowNinja ~op MinetestBot
18:58 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'cursor' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 52, in note)
18:58 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^
18:58 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'cursor' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 52, in note)
18:58 PilzAdam !kick MinetestBot
18:58 MinetestBot was kicked by MinetestBot: MinetestBot
18:59 sfan5 grr
18:59 sfan5 PilzAdam: could you just wait 1 sec
18:59 PilzAdam use #minetest-de
18:59 PilzAdam spamming 9 people vs. spamming 91
18:59 TheLastProject Don't like something? Send it to Germany
18:59 TheLastProject Good logic
18:59 Exio4 haha
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19:16 sfan5 MinetestBot!
19:16 MinetestBot sfan5!
19:16 sfan5 !seen sfan5
19:16 MinetestBot sfan5: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-10-22 19:16:11 UTC on #minetest
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19:23 * Jordach notices thexyz's icon
19:23 Jordach da hell
19:25 Jordach oh god i love my wallpaper
19:26 sfan5 make love with it!
19:26 thexyz my what?
19:26 * TheLastProject looks at wallpaper
19:26 TheLastProject Hi, standard KDE wallpaper
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19:27 Exio4 i should give trinity a look
19:27 thexyz Jordach: you meant avatar?
19:28 TheLastProject I'm more of a KDE4 fan :P
19:28 Yepoleb I get very bad performance on debian/xfce. This is my debug log: http://pastebin.com/NsbU6Nh3
19:29 Exio4 what distro TheLastProject?
19:29 TheLastProject Debian Testing
19:30 Exio4 neat
19:31 Exio4 You have a nearly certain (!) chance of a DEA raid (6,550%)
19:31 Exio4 ★ You narrowly avoided an altercation with the DEA
19:31 Exio4 ok
19:31 TheLastProject Wait, what?
19:32 Peacock drug enforcement agency?
19:32 Peacock i think we're missing part of the convo lol
19:33 TheLastProject I thought DEA was something encryption
19:34 Peacock well he mentionned raid so im assuming he's talking about the agency, unless he meant raid as "redundant array of independent disks"
19:35 Jordach my dad shot down a pigeon and there's an advert in the UK called funky pigeon where he rides a purple motorcycle; hilarity ensues: http://i.imgur.com/xrdzCUL.jpg
19:37 Peacock recently? i thought you said he passed away
19:37 Jordach Peacock, that's an old photo
19:37 Jordach i recently got his 1st gen digital camera
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19:37 Jordach and found that on the sd card
19:37 Peacock for a second there i thought of ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqoz4qmSF7Y
19:40 NakedFury a quadrillion comes after trillion which comes after a billion?
19:40 Peacock trying to figure out the world debt clocks? lol
19:40 NakedFury nah. playing http://clickingbad.nullism.com/\
19:40 NakedFury I need to make a quadrillion to acquire the last achievement
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19:46 Exio4 lol NakedFury
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19:48 sfan5 "You have a nearly certain (!) chance of a DEA raid (314%)" uh-oh
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19:48 Jordach im in negative numbers :D
19:48 sapier1 did you look for grass fertilizer and lamps on google sfan5?
19:48 john_minetest Hello everypony.
19:48 sfan5 sapier1: ?
19:49 Exio4 sfan5, NakedFury, Seconds spent playing: ???
19:49 Peacock meh, they have aerial heat-imaging for that now
19:49 sapier1 isn't DEA american drug police? *g*
19:49 sfan5 Seconds spent playing:
19:49 NakedFury 843k
19:49 sfan5 lol
19:49 sfan5 Seconds spent playing: 89,239
19:49 NakedFury the DEA cant touch me in space
19:49 Exio4 lol NakedFury
19:49 Exio4 Seconds spent playing: 787,060
19:50 NakedFury -13.5% detection
19:50 Exio4 atm i'm at You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-46,391%)
19:51 Jordach pics or fake and gay
19:51 Peacock that and the power companies report abnormally high residential consumption, as is often the case when someone has several 1K watt bulbs
19:51 NakedFury I need to sell some of my sellers
19:51 NakedFury im saving for a space mule
19:52 Jordach ProTip: Black painted sheds are the fastest for growing weed
19:52 Peacock it's a stupid risk to take lol
19:53 Exio4 uploading them
19:54 Jordach Peacock, i don't use heaters; because some sheds are insulated
19:55 Jordach (logically it's obvious to heat cames)
19:55 Jordach -e
19:55 Peacock the bulbs generate the heat they find with aeriel imaging lol
19:55 Jordach plant food = good weed
19:55 Jordach miracle grow actually works
19:56 Exio4 Jordach: http://exio4.com.ar/screenshots/clickingbad/
19:57 Exio4 not fake, the only thing i 'cheated' was abusing of the changes about balacing
19:58 NakedFury damn. Im still selling 70+ million per secnd
19:58 NakedFury 71,132,785
19:58 Exio4 27billion/second :D
19:59 NakedFury that because of the upgrades correct?
19:59 NakedFury I need to buy MEth of the Third Kind
20:00 Exio4 Meth of the Third Kind ✔
20:00 Exio4 Exta terrestrial meth purification processes have been discovered on Mars. Increases purity by another 12 IPUs
20:00 Exio4 :D
20:01 Peacock doesn't the game have it's own chatroom? :P considering drug-based mods were barred from the forums and all ... :P
20:01 Jordach bullshit
20:01 Jordach i call bullshit
20:01 Jordach no L4D painpills
20:01 Peacock "Hello, yes this is bullshit"
20:01 MinetestBot OperationalError: database is locked (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 18, in opendb)
20:01 Jordach dammit MinetestBot
20:01 MinetestBot OperationalError: database is locked (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 18, in opendb)
20:01 Exio4 sfan5: you broke it
20:01 Peacock minetestbot: the key's under the mat
20:02 Jordach MinetestBot!
20:02 MinetestBot Jordach!
20:02 sfan5 ehm
20:02 Jordach you're still alive then MinetestBot
20:02 Peacock Jordache - now twice as spreadable as vegemite
20:03 * MinetestBot slaps Peacock
20:03 Peacock minetestbot: you have to buy me dinner and a movie before doing that ;)
20:03 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
20:03 * MinetestBot purrs.
20:03 Peacock lol
20:03 NakedFury You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-218.5%)
20:03 Jordach > nearly impossible
20:03 NakedFury how is that nearly impossible only?
20:03 Jordach ninja'd
20:04 Exio4 you still can get "siezed"
20:04 NakedFury I sold all 20 Drug Carteles I had
20:04 Exio4 http://exio4.com.ar/screenshots/clickingbad/02.png
20:04 john_minetest Peacock: I have got a drug based mod
20:04 NakedFury you have soo many night clubs
20:04 john_minetest It is still on the forums but the link points to ompldr and ompldr is down
20:04 Peacock do any of the farming mods use hemp for rope though?
20:05 Peacock ompldr isn't down, it's gone :P
20:05 Jordach no
20:05 Peacock down implies ittl' be back
20:05 Exio4 i have 6400 dealers :P
20:05 Jordach jesus fuck -- you have your own cartel there :D
20:06 NakedFury I have 30 diplomats but that was before this newer update
20:06 NakedFury Zero lowly drug sellers
20:06 NakedFury only 7 lawyers
20:06 Peacock better call saul
20:06 NakedFury 9 police forces and 1 El Presidente
20:06 Exio4 Sleazy Lawyer 3,250
20:06 NakedFury well PEacock I am saul
20:07 NakedFury its awesome im such a amazing character in the series
20:07 NakedFury i might even have my own series
20:07 Jordach fun fact: i've never watched Breaking Bad
20:07 NakedFury I watch half the first season
20:07 NakedFury done
20:07 Jordach watched*
20:07 Jordach half of**
20:07 NakedFury yeah watched
20:08 Exio4 i only watched quarter of some random episode!
20:08 Jordach im fucking naziing people on grammar
20:08 sfan5 oh
20:08 sfan5 hm :/
20:08 sfan5 I don't know how to fix that
20:08 Jordach sfan5, rm minetest-bot_modules
20:08 Jordach problem solved
20:08 Peacock like den of geek but some of the reviewers suffer from blind patriotism lol knocking shows like revolution while placing doctor who on a pedestal, which is more fantasy than scifi lol
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20:13 PilzAdam oh god I suck at finding a good name for pilztest :-/
20:14 Peacock mineadam?
20:14 sfan5 hm...
20:14 PilzAdam anything with mine, test, craft, pilz, adam, test or game is not good
20:15 PilzAdam (did I mention "test"?)
20:16 Peacock i got it!
20:16 Peacock meinetest :P
20:17 Peacock or
20:17 Peacock supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
20:19 NakedFury Shipwrecked
20:20 john_minetest Peacock: In the german version it is "Supercalifragilistischexpialigetisch", in an other german text it is also "Supercalifragilistischexpialigorisch"
20:20 PilzAdam bye
20:20 MinetestBot OperationalError: database is locked (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 18, in opendb)
20:21 Peacock damn thats even longer lol
20:21 Peacock i suffer from hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia
20:22 Peacock !g hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia definition
20:22 MinetestBot Peacock: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hip​popotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia
20:22 john_minetest I want to become a "Modelleisenbahngleisteilwärterchefkopfk​ühlmützenkühlflüssigkeitsaustauschöffnun​gswinkelbiegerstutzengießformüberprüfer"
20:23 john_minetest A valid german word.
20:23 john_minetest german is just too epic in that aspect
20:23 NakedFury thats the most stupid made up word to say fear of long words
20:24 NakedFury what does it mean john?
20:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^ Fixed?
20:25 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload seen
20:25 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 13)
20:25 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I just pushed something that fixes it
20:26 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload seen
20:26 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'seen' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py'> (version: 2013-10-22 20:26:01)
20:27 john_minetest NakedFury: It means "A guy who checks casting moulds for short feed pipes for a machine that angles the opening for changing the cooling fluid in the cap that cools the head of the boss of someone who checks the parts of a model train rail track."
20:27 MinetestBot ProgrammingError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be used in that same thread.The object was created in thread id 140580069091072 and this is thread id 140580013664000 (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 75, in note)
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20:27 NakedFury so technically it is not a word but a description of a guys job
20:29 markveidemanis I am Back!
20:29 markveidemanis Server had to be taken down
20:29 markveidemanis Im not leaving it on
20:29 markveidemanis ANy suggestions for a shitty one core 1GHz processor?
20:29 markveidemanis Is the ARM an advantage?
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20:39 Exio4 what do you mean with advantage
20:39 Exio4 yes, it has a decent performance/wattage
20:39 Exio4 but it isn't that powerful unless you rely on multithreading
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20:41 sfan5 finally fixed MinetestBot!
20:43 sfan5 !seen kaeza
20:43 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen kaeza around.
20:43 Exio4 kaeza talk
20:43 Exio4 !seen sfan5
20:43 MinetestBot Exio4: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-10-22 20:43:17 UTC on #minetest
20:43 sfan5 I think I should fix that
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20:48 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload seen
20:48 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'seen' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py'> (version: 2013-10-22 20:48:36)
20:49 Exio4 !seen sfan5
20:49 MinetestBot Exio4: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-10-22 20:48:45 UTC on #minetest
20:49 Exio4 :D
20:49 sfan5 it does remember then now
20:49 sfan5 them*
20:50 sfan5 now only someone has to join
20:50 sfan5 hm
20:50 sfan5 !seen MinetestBot
20:50 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around.
20:50 sfan5 I haven't either
20:50 Menche lol
20:51 Menche !seen Menche
20:51 MinetestBot Menche: menche was last seen at 2013-10-22 20:50:43 UTC on #minetest
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20:51 sfan5 !seen sfan5[iPod]
20:51 MinetestBot sfan5: sfan5[ipod] was last seen at 2013-10-22 20:51:36 UTC on #minetest
20:51 sfan5 yay
20:51 Menche well it sees the guy querying it, i guess that's good
20:51 sfan5[iPod] :D
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21:01 kaeza evenings
21:02 Yepoleb hi
21:14 john_minetest hey
21:14 john_minetest !seen john_minetest
21:14 MinetestBot john_minetest: john_minetest was last seen at 2013-10-22 21:14:20 UTC on #minetest
21:14 john_minetest !seen zeg9
21:14 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
21:14 john_minetest :(
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21:17 sfan5 !server players:most
21:17 MinetestBot sfan5: LandRush Server | 192.95.62.241:31000 | Clients: 8/20, 13 | Version: 0.4.7-dev | ping: 0.196
21:17 sfan5 !server players:most i:last
21:17 MinetestBot sfan5: LandRush Server | 192.95.62.241:31000 | Clients: 8/20, 13 | Version: 0.4.7-dev | ping: 0.196
21:17 sfan5 !server players:most i:999
21:17 MinetestBot TypeError: object of type 'NoneType' has no len() (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 227, in server)
21:19 sfan5 good night everyone
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22:51 Exio4 5 December 2011: A Tiara Air Short 360 hit a donkey with its right gear immediately after becoming airborne.
23:17 kaeza O_o

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