Minetest logo

IRC log for #minetest, 2013-10-21

| Channels | #minetest index | Today | | Google Search | Plaintext

All times shown according to UTC.

Time Nick Message
00:00 theuniversalbuil well ill tell you what it looked like
00:00 theuniversalbuil it showed the night sky
00:00 theuniversalbuil and i was able to move my hand
00:00 theuniversalbuil but everyhting else did not work
00:00 theuniversalbuil i coudnt walk
00:00 theuniversalbuil and the butttons did not work
00:03 VanessaE hrm
00:03 VanessaE maybe the server crashed?
00:03 theuniversalbuil yeah
00:03 theuniversalbuil idk
00:03 theuniversalbuil hmm
00:07 Taoki joined #minetest
00:13 OWNSyouAll joined #minetest
00:29 pitriss theuniversalbuil: something got wrong when landrush crashed.. it was restarted but something is not ok.. As fairiestoy wrote on landrush forum..
00:29 pitriss i'ts too late here.. night
00:30 theuniversalbuil ok
00:30 theuniversalbuil Thanks pitriss
00:39 Renoki joined #minetest
00:46 Evergreen joined #minetest
01:22 ruskie joined #minetest
01:33 VanessaE HDX updated:  pipeworks chest and furnace textures added, normalmap support discontinued until the damn normalmapping code gets stabilized and fixed.
01:49 Miner_48er joined #minetest
01:59 VanessaE another update:  moved it back to github, as it's only 344MB without normalmaps.
02:00 kaeza "only"
02:01 kaeza o_o
02:02 VanessaE 2922 files in that dir, so 344 MB is doing pretty good.
02:06 OWNSuAll joined #minetest
02:16 OWNSuAll joined #minetest
02:17 OldCoder joined #minetest
02:20 VanessaE joined #minetest
02:23 zsoltisawesome joined #minetest
02:24 zsoltisawesome Good day!
02:24 VanessaE hi
02:24 ruskie joined #minetest
02:25 dng joined #minetest
02:25 zsoltisawesome /)
02:32 RedBlade7 joined #minetest
03:15 us^0gb joined #minetest
03:25 Menche joined #minetest
03:26 svuorela joined #minetest
03:26 V0id joined #minetest
03:27 book` joined #minetest
04:11 ImQ009 joined #minetest
04:18 Megaf joined #minetest
04:19 roboman2444 joined #minetest
04:21 theuniversalbuil :-)
04:21 theuniversalbuil :)
04:21 theuniversalbuil :-(
04:22 theuniversalbuil :(
04:32 kaeza
05:19 rsiska joined #minetest
05:21 nore joined #minetest
05:45 VanessaE hi nore, night all
05:46 Hunterz joined #minetest
05:47 nore hi
06:17 q66 joined #minetest
06:31 RealBadAngel joined #minetest
06:32 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3652588818.png
06:33 nore ^ screenshot of 16-bit mesecons decoder+display
06:33 RealBadAngel nice
06:33 RealBadAngel hi nore
06:33 nore hi
06:33 RealBadAngel im in the middle of recovery
06:34 RealBadAngel ive lost my primary hdd
06:34 nore that's a big problem...
06:34 nore have you been able to save your files?
06:34 RealBadAngel thx god ive uploaded most of my work to git
06:34 RealBadAngel ive lost several days of work
06:35 nore you lost the terminal formspec element, haven't you?
06:35 RealBadAngel its on the stick, so no worries
06:36 RealBadAngel what ive lost and missing the most is the fine tuning of water shaders
06:36 nore you keep more backup copies than I do...
06:36 nore and btw, did you look at the errors of shaders?
06:37 RealBadAngel yup, i saw recently the very same ones
06:37 RealBadAngel i got them when trying to run the game with open drivers
06:37 TheLastProject joined #minetest
06:37 nore and were you able to fix them?
06:38 RealBadAngel by installing propertiary ones
06:38 nore (cause I use the open drivers too, I have problems with the proprietary ones)
06:46 RealBadAngel whats your GPU?
06:47 nore amd radeon HD 7670M, IIRC
06:50 kahrl sudo lshw|grep -C10 "VGA compatible"
06:51 RealBadAngel you have newer one than me
06:51 RealBadAngel so definitely you shall be able to use propertiary drivers
06:52 RealBadAngel mine is 4670
06:52 nore produit: Thames [Radeon HD 7500M/7600M Series]
06:52 RealBadAngel does M stand for mobile?
06:53 nore yes, I reckon (I have a laptop)
06:53 RealBadAngel lemme ask my uncle
06:54 RealBadAngel ur distro?
06:55 nore debain jessie
06:56 Calinou joined #minetest
06:57 RealBadAngel other, is your xorg 1.12 or 1.13?
06:57 RealBadAngel i had problem with newer distros, with xorg at 1.13
06:58 nore how do you know that?
06:58 nore (the xorg version)
06:58 RealBadAngel ati stopped providing drivers for older cards
06:58 nore ok, I've found
06:59 nore it's Xorg 1.14.3 (so neither 1.12 nor 1.13)
06:59 RealBadAngel http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi​ons/linux-newbie-8/how-to-determine-​kernel-xorg-version-numbers-406535/
06:59 RealBadAngel so you have to choose another distro to be able to use propertiary drivers
07:00 nore and there it no way it could work without them, is there?
07:00 RealBadAngel im on ubuntu 12.04 atm
07:00 RealBadAngel i saw somewhere a solution, downgrading xorg
07:01 RealBadAngel google for it
07:01 Calinou downgrading x.org is unsupported and tricky
07:01 nore but about the shaders, what is the problem with open drivers?
07:02 RealBadAngel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1171445
07:02 RealBadAngel open drivers doesnt support newer versions of opengl
07:03 RealBadAngel Calinou, yup, its tricky, better install from scratch just a bit older distro
07:03 nore and couldn't the shaders be made to work with old OpenGL versions?
07:03 Calinou OSS drivers support OpenGL 3.1-3.3 if you're installing mesa git and stuff like that
07:04 RealBadAngel with the stuff im messing, its rather not possible
07:06 nore so I won't use shaders, then... (even if they look very cool)
07:06 Wuzzy joined #minetest
07:06 RealBadAngel whats wrong with 12.04? couldnt you just install that distro?
07:07 RealBadAngel im pretty happy with it
07:07 Calinou well, it has old software but you can't do anything else that's supported :P
07:07 Calinou to use fglrx on an old card
07:07 RealBadAngel ofc i got rid of unity and switched to gnome
07:08 aheinecke joined #minetest
07:09 RealBadAngel btw, Calinou, have you seen the water?
07:09 Calinou nope
07:09 RealBadAngel hold on then
07:10 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax48OnXjDTE
07:10 RealBadAngel here u go
07:18 Hunterz joined #minetest
07:36 RedBlade7 joined #minetest
07:39 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png
07:39 nore ^ multiplier of 2 8-bit numbers to get a 16-bit number
07:40 nore (no microcontroller nor luacontroller)
07:43 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png
07:43 nore ^ what it looks like from behind
07:47 whirm joined #minetest
07:50 nore RealBadAngel, have you seen the multiplier?
07:54 Pest joined #minetest
07:56 EdB joined #minetest
08:07 RealBadAngel yeah, lookin cool
08:14 monkeycoder joined #minetest
08:32 JamesTait joined #minetest
08:34 JamesTait You got back safely then?
08:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Apple Day! :-D
08:38 Ritchie joined #minetest
08:43 EdB joined #minetest
09:28 proller joined #minetest
09:30 SpeedProg joined #minetest
09:36 monkeycoder joined #minetest
09:37 nore Wuzzy, for the wiki:
09:37 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png
09:37 nore use that screenshot instead of the old binary adder
09:37 Wuzzy Thank you.
09:38 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png
09:38 nore and that one is the front, FYI
09:38 Wuzzy okay; the screenshots are just a bit large. I guess I JPEG them :P
09:39 nore no problem...
09:39 nore you can change the size too
09:39 nore and I had a few suggestion:
09:40 nore In "Installing texture packs", you should say that for recent versions (0.4.8, 0.4.7-dev), one should just put TPs in the textures/ folder
09:40 nore and then choose that TP in the main menu
09:41 nore and for "How to build your first house", maybe add some screenshots
09:44 Wuzzy hmmm
09:44 nore Wuzzy: "removed hand (is not an item)" -> it is: it is the item ""
09:44 nore in the code: minetest.register_item(":", ...)
09:45 Wuzzy but there is no way to get it with “/giveme”, right? xD
09:45 nore yes, there isn't
09:45 Wuzzy anyways, I should add it back
09:45 nore except throwing out what you got with /giveme
09:45 Wuzzy and what exactly do the screenshots show?
09:45 Wuzzy another binary adder?
09:45 nore look at the second one
09:46 Wuzzy aha
09:46 nore I guess you guessed what it was...
09:47 milleja46 joined #minetest
09:52 nore spam: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115080#p115080
09:52 Wuzzy joined #minetest
09:52 nore sfan5, VanessaE, are you there?
09:54 Wuzzy nore: Why don’t you do the changes you suggested yourself? :O
09:55 monkeycoder joined #minetest
09:55 nore I don't know how to write them
09:55 nore and my English is not very good
09:56 nore Wuzzy, no, not ":"
09:56 jemadux joined #minetest
09:56 Wuzzy ??
09:56 nore it is "", ":" means to ignore naming conventions when registering the node
09:57 Wuzzy argh
09:57 Wuzzy silly me
09:57 Wuzzy totally forgot THAT
09:57 Wuzzy lol XD
09:57 nore (e.g. minetest.register_node(":default:apple") in a mod to cahnge the default apple
09:57 Wuzzy okay that is a good argument
09:57 Wuzzy wait
09:58 Wuzzy you dont need to speak english very well for taking screenshots for “How to build your first house”. :P
09:58 nore I don't know what screenshots to make...
09:59 nore and you should redirect the mesecons page to mesecons.net
10:00 Wuzzy what mesecons page?
10:01 nore the mesecons on the mod list page
10:02 Wuzzy Are you blind? There is a link to mesecons.net on the line. :O
10:02 nore http://wiki.minetest.net/Furnace -> the craft isn't correct, one can make a furnace with 4 stone and 4 desert stone
10:02 nore Wuzzy, then add a page for mesecons (but do not leave a red link)
10:02 Wuzzy Yes, I know it is incorrect
10:02 nore ^ idem for chests, 4 planks and 4 junglewood works too
10:02 Wuzzy You can thank BlockMen for that.
10:03 nore and one can do a pick with desert stone
10:03 Wuzzy I have worked hard for adding group crafts to the wiki but BlockMen reverted all these
10:03 Wuzzy I don’t wanted to start an edit war …
10:03 Wuzzy I mean MOST of the group crafts were reverted
10:04 Wuzzy Look on this page: http://wiki.minetest.net/Category:Stone
10:04 nore and you forgot mese axes
10:04 Wuzzy No I DIDN’T!
10:04 nore it's good like that
10:05 nore minetest.register_tool("default:axe_mese", {
10:05 Wuzzy BlockMen reverted my changes which added the group crafts
10:05 Wuzzy wait, mese axe?
10:05 Wuzzy what are you talking about
10:05 Wuzzy even the crippled [[Axe]] page has Mese axe
10:06 Wuzzy you can craft furnace from ANY combination of stone-like things
10:06 Wuzzy and “stone-like things” is defined as “stone or cobblestone or desert stone or stone brick or desert stone brick”
10:07 Wuzzy See also http://wiki.minetest.net/Groups
10:07 nore the "craft" page has no mese axe, nor diamond axe, nor mese shovel ,etc
10:08 Wuzzy Well
10:08 Wuzzy I don’t very much care about this page
10:08 nore Wuzzy, yes, I know that about the crafting of the furnace
10:08 Wuzzy it seems so redundant
10:08 nore nevertheless, it should be updated (or the recipes removed)
10:08 nore but not d
10:08 Wuzzy besides, I explicitly stated that these are crafting EXAMPLES and not a full crafting guide :P
10:09 nore filled with inaccurate information
10:09 Wuzzy Best would be to remove most crafts from this page
10:09 nore there is almost everything on the page...
10:09 Wuzzy and just leave the instructions
10:09 Wuzzy and really leave just one to three examples
10:09 Wuzzy to get the idea
10:10 Wuzzy in fact, these group pages are made all by be in order to cope with redundancy
10:10 nore that could be good (e.g., a normal recipe, a shapeless recipe, etc.)
10:14 Wuzzy What pisses me off is the fact that BlockMen reverted the edits on the node pages where I added group crafts. Here is the old version of [[Axe]]: <http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?ti​tle=Axe&amp;diff=1105&amp;oldid=1093> Compare this to the current one.
10:14 Wuzzy BlockMen seems to insist on using animations
10:17 Wuzzy Of course I just could respond by reverting BlockMen’s reverts. But this would be an open declaration of edit war, of course. :-/
10:17 Jordach joined #minetest
10:18 nore I like the old way better
10:18 Wuzzy besides: is BlockMen EVER visible on IRC?
10:18 Wuzzy (I don’t know)
10:18 Wuzzy (thanks :))
10:18 nore Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115080#p115080 (spam)
10:18 nore !seen BlockMen
10:18 MinetestBot nore: Sorry, I haven't seen blockmen around.
10:18 Tux[Qyou] joined #minetest
10:18 Wuzzy o_O
10:18 Jordach nore, going going gone
10:19 Wuzzy how far goes MinetestBot’s memory back?
10:19 nore !help
10:19 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
10:19 Jordach i prefer a silly ban message for spammers: spam what lovely spam
10:20 nore until last restart, I reckon
10:20 Jordach wat wat wat wat
10:20 nore Jordach, how far goes MinetestBot’s memory back?
10:21 Jordach three torrents that have been sitting in my list for days has finally started and are on hyperspeed (just my luck; i happen to have shitty luck with the seeders)
10:21 Jordach nore, indefinite
10:21 Jordach or 1 week
10:21 Jordach iirc
10:21 nore so until last time she was restarted, no?
10:21 Jordach pretty much
10:21 nore !seen RealBadAngel
10:21 MinetestBot nore: realbadangel was last seen at 2013-10-21 08:07:51 UTC on #minetest
10:22 nore !seen sfan5
10:22 MinetestBot nore: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-10-20 13:22:25 UTC on #minetest
10:22 Wuzzy !seen Chuck Norris
10:22 MinetestBot Wuzzy: Sorry, I haven't seen chuck around.
10:22 Jordach !seen Jordach
10:22 MinetestBot Jordach: jordach was last seen at 2013-10-21 10:21:36 UTC on #minetest
10:22 Jordach it doesnt count the seen message if you use it on yourself
10:22 Wuzzy You don’t see Chuck Norris, Chuck Norris sees YOU.
10:23 Jordach someone from .hu is giving me 2MB/S
10:23 nore MinetestBot has been restarted yesterday at 11:46
10:23 Jordach im always around
10:23 Hunterz !seen ChuckNorris
10:23 MinetestBot Hunterz: Sorry, I haven't seen chucknorris around.
10:23 Wuzzy Does this mean it forgets everything before that?
10:27 nore Wuzzy, yes
10:28 Wuzzy bummer
10:33 Gizmokid2005 joined #minetest
10:39 kaeza Jordach, can you unban me from #mt @ inchra ? :3
10:40 Jordach i cannot control ShadowBot
10:40 kaeza derp...
10:40 kaeza ShadowNinja,  ^
10:45 roboman2444 joined #minetest
10:51 roboman2444 joined #minetest
10:53 kaeza Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/​100008207/screenshot_3668162906.jpg
10:58 roboman2444 joined #minetest
11:00 nore kaeza, how did you get yourself banned?
11:00 dng joined #minetest
11:00 kaeza nore, meh
11:01 nore you were saying meh, !talk to much, am I right?
11:01 kaeza actually Rhys
11:01 nore why were you banned, then?
11:05 sfan5 hi everyone
11:06 kaeza hi sfan
11:06 nore hi sfan5
11:14 Gethiox joined #minetest
11:19 * Jordach graps Gimp 2.6.12 portable
11:19 Jordach grabs*
11:20 nore Jordach, have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png
11:20 Jordach jesus WTF
11:20 nore what?
11:22 nore what do you think of it?
11:23 q66_ joined #minetest
11:27 Jordach not bad.png
11:27 nore thanks
11:29 Jordach i have minetest, blender, gimp and other games to keep myself busy
11:29 Jordach on a flash pemn
11:29 Jordach pen*
11:33 PilzAdam joined #minetest
11:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:33 nore hi PilzAdam
11:33 NakedFury joined #minetest
11:33 nore have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png
11:34 jojoa1997 joined #minetest
11:36 nore PilzAdam, ^
11:37 PilzAdam is that by you?
11:37 nore yes
11:38 PilzAdam it would be more impressive if you only used torches, and not the gates
11:38 nore do you want a WE schematic?
11:38 nore torches are too slow
11:38 nore gates are almost instant
11:39 nore with torches, it would take very long to have the output
11:39 nore and they use ABMs, so it wouldn't be possible to keep all of those active at once
11:40 nore it is 101*41*47
11:41 nore so even when standing in the middle some blocks would be too far away
11:42 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/multiplier8.we
11:42 nore here
11:43 nore (the WE scheme is 2MB large...)
11:43 nore PilzAdam, ^
11:54 Sanqui joined #minetest
12:06 hmmmm joined #minetest
12:07 nore hi hmmmm
12:07 hmmmm hi
12:07 nore paramat said you added rivers and mountains to mgv7, is that already pushed?
12:08 hmmmm yep
12:08 nore since when?
12:08 hmmmm since about 3-4 months ago
12:09 nore ah, so why did he say that? that's strange
12:09 nore anyway, you said that biome defs needed to be put in minetest_game
12:10 nore why isn't it done now?
12:10 hmmmm because the biomes aren't quite acceptable
12:10 nore what is the problem?
12:10 hmmmm they don't look very good
12:11 nore well, the few people that tried mgv7 said it was awesome
12:11 nore so I don't know what could look bad
12:12 Wuzzy hey nore, I changed the Craftings page yet again.
12:12 nore good
12:13 Wuzzy I got rid of the craftings in it, instead I just posted some links. The redundancy was simply not managable anymore. xD
12:14 nore I like it like it is now...
12:14 Wuzzy great, thanks :-)
12:16 nore hmmmm, have you seen that? http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png
12:17 Wuzzy yes I saw that
12:17 Wuzzy and it is in the mods page
12:17 Wuzzy well, the first image
12:17 Wuzzy I think, one image is enough
12:17 Wuzzy maybe
12:18 Wuzzy hmm is there a mod which looks TOTALLY different than minetest_game?
12:18 Wuzzy (And I don’t mean just texture packs)
12:18 nore you could try technic
12:18 Wuzzy hmm anyways I am too lazy for this now :P
12:58 reactor joined #minetest
13:07 TheLastProject joined #minetest
13:25 zat joined #minetest
13:47 whirm joined #minetest
13:49 iqualfragile joined #minetest
13:57 SpeedProg joined #minetest
13:58 ImQ009 joined #minetest
13:58 sfan5 lol, the firmware for the new telekom routers is just a tar package, it even contains a nicely commented bash script
13:59 sfan5 apparently the people who write the firmware use FritzBox! devices in their company
14:03 sfan5 they even included a binary for checksum validation, you could just patch it out
14:03 sfan5 ..which would then allow you to disable the downgrade check in the script
14:04 sfan5 """     addiu   $a0, (aChecksumVali_1 - 0x410000)  # "Checksum validation failed successful!" """
14:04 sfan5 what is that..
14:05 Jordach not bad
14:06 sfan5 it is statically linked, nice
14:06 nore sfan5, you should add memory to MinetestBot (when you restart her, she still knows who she has seen)
14:06 sfan5 apparently it will also just insert a kernel module of your choosing
14:06 sfan5 nore: yes, I should do that
14:07 sfan5 I wish I had a 900V router, it would be rootable so easily...
14:07 nore and btw, have you seen that: http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656576808.png http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3656798852.png ?
14:07 sfan5 yes
14:07 sfan5 I'm currently building 64 byte memory
14:08 sfan5 will be pretty compact
14:08 sfan5 only need addr decoder then it' complete
14:08 nore what size is a memory unit?
14:09 sfan5 physical size?
14:09 nore yes
14:09 nore size for 1 bit
14:09 sfan5 1 bit = 1 node
14:10 nore with luacontroller?
14:10 sfan5 yes
14:10 sfan5 it is actually pretty fas
14:10 sfan5 t
14:10 nore that's cheating... :p
14:12 nore what's the smallest size you can do without it?
14:12 sfan5 dunno
14:13 nore try!
14:13 sfan5 maybe later :P
14:13 nore oh, and about NPCs in mg...
14:13 nore have you a piece of code for that?
14:14 sfan5 no
14:14 sfan5 wow! the telekom even offers the gpl licenses source code for download
14:15 Jordach WAT
14:15 Jordach WAT WAT WAT
14:16 sfan5 they use uclibc
14:18 IceCraft joined #minetest
14:23 Jordach can you run minetest on it?
14:23 Jordach :D
14:24 nore sfan5, btw, were you able to run Minetest on Android?
14:24 sfan5 yes
14:24 Jordach wat
14:24 sfan5 I posted a tutorial
14:24 Jordach pics plox
14:24 nore the client?
14:24 sfan5 oh, the client almost
14:24 sfan5 it still fails uncontrollably for no reason
14:25 sfan5 Jordach: minetest would probably work on that, its a mips one
14:25 sfan5 but I don't have it :-(
14:25 sfan5 wait... I'll put up the source for minetest on android
14:30 nore sfan5, is your memory RAM or ROM?
14:30 sfan5 RW ofc
14:31 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/android
14:34 sfan5 to build that you need an android toolchain (preferably the crystax one) with android_native_app_glue.h installed into includes
14:38 jojoa1997 Sfan5 can you build one for me to test? Computer is tied up with somethings
14:38 jojoa1997 Some things*
14:38 sfan5 jojoa1997: it does not work currently
14:38 jojoa1997 :-[
14:39 sfan5 anyway if you want to run it put the .so at /sdcard/minetest/minetest.so and all data files in /sdcard/minetest/
14:39 sfan5 http://127.0.0.1/upload/use​rdata/1/MinetestLoader.apk will then do things for you
14:39 Jordach sfan5, cannt access 127.0.0.1
14:39 Jordach cannot*
14:39 sfan5 grr
14:39 sfan5 everytime
14:39 sfan5 Jordach: s/127.0.0.1/sfan5.duckdns.org/
14:40 jojoa1997 jojoa1997> is there a list i could copy to my usb of all the programs that are updated with apt-get update?
14:40 jojoa1997 In Ubuntu
14:40 sfan5 !! loading shared library from sdcard won't normally work, you would need to get root and "mount - /mnt/sdcard -o remount,exec" to get it to work
14:41 sfan5 the lib in MinetestLoader.apk has extra space so one can edit the location of the minetest library
14:41 PilzAdam jojoa1997, you could try apt-get -s update >> update.txt
14:41 PilzAdam eh, *upgrade
14:42 jojoa1997 yeah no
14:43 PilzAdam oh, it seems to print the list when you run upgrade first
14:43 jojoa1997 i am using a live usb to backup my files due to some problems with upgradeing ubutnu
14:44 PilzAdam you should learn how to ask questions
14:44 PilzAdam also, -> #ubuntu
14:46 jojoa1997 bbl
14:46 germa joined #minetest
14:46 germa hi
14:47 germa sorry, I have lubuntu.... why don't craft wooden doors?
14:48 PilzAdam hi
14:48 PilzAdam can you rephrase that question?
14:49 ImQ009_ joined #minetest
14:50 nore sfan5: http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_3682494680.png
14:51 sfan5 that seems pretty compact
14:51 nore 64B memory, with 32 registers holding 16B each, and decoder
14:51 nore (RW, of course)
14:51 germa hi thank you... i can't craft wooden doors
14:51 germa don't work
14:51 PilzAdam germa, what Minetest version do you have?
14:51 germa sorry for my english
14:51 germa 0.4.7
14:52 germa PilzAdam 0.4.7
14:53 PilzAdam do you craft it like this: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wooden_Door ?
14:53 germa yes
14:54 PilzAdam what game do you run? (i.e. minetest_game, dwarves or nodetest)
14:55 germa minetest? i don't know dwarves or nodetest
14:55 PilzAdam you have selected the game when creating the world
14:56 nore PilzAdam, he might be using minimal...
14:56 germa yes... minimal
14:56 nore you should use minetest_game
14:57 nore there are no doors in minimal
14:57 germa ah ok... i download and install another minetest?
14:57 nore no, not exactly
14:58 nore how did you get Minetest?
14:58 Gethiox joined #minetest
14:58 nore (and what is your OS)
14:58 germa I have lubuntu
14:59 germa i get from software center
14:59 JamesTait joined #minetest
15:00 nore are there other packages with minetest in their name?
15:00 nore if yes, install them
15:00 germa no, now i search in the repisitory
15:01 PilzAdam isnt Minetest 0.3.1 in the software center?
15:02 germa no only 0.4.7 but are other packages, i try to install that
15:02 nore what are the other packages?
15:03 john_minetest joined #minetest
15:03 germa minetest-common / minetest-dbg / minetest-delta / minetest-server
15:03 john_minetest Hello everypony
15:03 PilzAdam hey john_minetest
15:04 germa hi john
15:04 PilzAdam john_minetest, I had my first Java lecture today at uni
15:04 john_minetest me, too
15:04 PilzAdam TIL: System.out.println("Hello World!");
15:04 germa ahah
15:04 germa good
15:05 nore germa, does it work with minetest-data installed?
15:05 john_minetest Oh, that basic java stuff was last week
15:05 ImQ009 joined #minetest
15:05 john_minetest We now have an introduction to the more theoretical things. Like history of java.
15:06 germa nore, the doors? no
15:06 nore create a new world with game minetest_game
15:06 germa but I install the other packages?
15:07 nore yes, you should at least install minetest-data and minetest-server
15:07 nore and what lubuntu version do you have?
15:07 nore (raring or saucy)
15:10 nore (i.e, 13.04 or 13.10)
15:10 PilzAdam wow, 13.10 indeed has 0.4.7 in the repos
15:11 nore 0.4.7 is old... :p
15:11 germa i see
15:11 nore debian jessie had 0.4.7 too
15:11 nore no, 0.4.6
15:11 germa i can't update?
15:12 nore well, what is your lubuntu version
15:12 rsiska joined #minetest
15:12 nore if is is 13.04 or less, you will need to compile minetest from source or to download a build
15:12 PilzAdam nore, obviously 13.10 if he installed 0.4.7 in the software center
15:13 werwerwer_ joined #minetest
15:13 sfan5 too hilarious... http://i.imgur.com/RUTn1wn.png
15:13 nore if it is 13.10, then you should be able to select game "minetest_game" when you create a world
15:14 nore sfan5, ???
15:14 germa 13.04
15:14 sfan5 sfan5: that is a reddit entry
15:14 PilzAdam nore, the game name is "minetest", not "minetest_game"
15:14 nore germa, you will need to compile minetest from source then
15:15 germa ah, i unistall and compile
15:15 nore yes
15:15 nore (well, you don't need to uninstall)
15:16 germa good... you know where I find the commands? :)
15:16 PilzAdam sfan5, video: http://youtu.be/8OJhkYdOcfw
15:20 Jordach and here we see the PilzAdam using a google service
15:21 kaeza googlol
15:23 germa nooo nore!!! ahah
15:24 germa who know where i get the commands for compile minetest in lubuntu pleae?
15:26 kaeza in the README
15:27 germa thank you... is the same http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
15:28 kaeza looks like that should work
15:30 Evolykane joined #minetest
15:35 nore joined #minetest
15:36 germa i don't understand how compile... im the worst
15:37 * Evolykane is shaking his head
15:38 VanessaE hi
15:38 germa hi vanessae
15:38 germa you know how i compile minetest on lubuntu ahah
15:38 Evolykane HI
15:41 reactor Meh.
15:41 reactor ubuntu is dead
15:41 germa i'm dead
15:41 reactor Why don't you install BSD?
15:41 germa BSD?
15:41 reactor Yes. Give FreeBSD a spin.
15:41 PilzAdam meh, BSD is dead
15:41 Evolykane It would be good to change the standard Font of Minetest, sometimes there came a Guy with the Name EvoIykane when I was online with the Name Evolykane, because in Minetest big i looks like small L
15:41 reactor If you can't hack it, there's PC-BSD.
15:41 PilzAdam give kubuntu a spin
15:42 germa im new on linux
15:42 reactor It would be nice to have proper, monospaced fonts.
15:42 reactor Because fonts that suitable for printing are by far not suitable for displays.
15:42 reactor germa: oh well. What do I do.
15:43 germa help me to compile minetest ahah
15:43 reactor I can't force you. Make your own mistakes.
15:43 reactor Well, uh.
15:43 germa yes :)
15:43 reactor Do you know in general how to compile things?
15:44 reactor Have you compiled something before?
15:44 Evolykane :#
15:44 reactor I need to know, because I need idea where to start.
15:44 germa no ahah i study
15:44 reactor So, no.
15:44 germa yes i see
15:44 germa compiling c++
15:45 germa google
15:45 germa ahah
15:45 TheLastProject The only thing I know from compiling is "make -C src/ clean install" but it differs from project to project anyway
15:45 reactor First, make sure you read the README.
15:45 reactor It's right in the directory where you unpacked it.
15:47 germa i install minetest from software center... i don't unpack nothing
15:50 germa now... im lost
15:52 germa i follow this https://github.com/minetest/mi​netest/blob/master/README.txt but i don't understand
15:53 LazyJ joined #minetest
16:03 Calinou joined #minetest
16:08 FreeFull joined #minetest
16:12 germa im lost in compiling...
16:13 iqualfragile joined #minetest
16:16 reactor germa: install all the listed dependencies.
16:16 germa where i see this? cd minetest-minetest-286edd4 (or similar)
16:16 markveidemanis joined #minetest
16:16 markveidemanis Hi
16:16 reactor markveidemanis: o/
16:16 germa i install the dependencies... i thinck
16:16 reactor I thic.
16:16 reactor thick*
16:16 germa ahah sorry
16:16 germa think
16:16 reactor Well, I'm not as thick as you.
16:16 markveidemanis I am trying to get minetestserver working on my kindle
16:16 reactor I think.
16:17 Jordach markveidemanis, that will never work
16:17 reactor markveidemanis: why would anyone put a server on a mobile device?
16:17 markveidemanis Its quiet
16:17 reactor There's no point.
16:17 markveidemanis ANd to prove someone wrong
16:17 markveidemanis I now have an aim
16:17 reactor Buy a quiet machine.
16:17 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459
16:18 reactor Or place your existing one in a separate room, like proper people do.
16:18 markveidemanis +
16:18 markveidemanis I dont have a Machine
16:18 markveidemanis I have a computer
16:18 markveidemanis I. WANT. TO. SEE IF. THIS. WORKS!
16:18 reactor Pardon me... what is your native language, again?
16:18 markveidemanis Swahili
16:19 reactor Oh. I see.
16:19 dng joined #minetest
16:19 markveidemanis sfan5,
16:19 sfan5 markveidemanis,
16:19 markveidemanis Could you help me with ^
16:20 markveidemanis I am downloading the android SDK
16:20 markveidemanis Because my kindle wouldn't show up
16:20 markveidemanis And i think its a bit pointless on an Ace
16:20 markveidemanis Too slow
16:21 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/scan.ph​p?page=news_item&amp;px=MTQ5MTc
16:21 Calinou :O
16:21 * Jordach can hear an idiot
16:22 * markveidemanis can hear a plane blowing up outside
16:23 reactor Pink Floyd - On the Run
16:23 JackGruff joined #minetest
16:24 sfan5 markveidemanis: what are you trying to do?
16:24 markveidemanis Get minetestserver running on my kindle
16:25 markveidemanis I am stuck on the first step
16:25 markveidemanis Try "adb devices" and make sure you see a device listed there
16:25 reactor Get his kindle bricked.
16:25 reactor Come on, use a proper machine.
16:25 markveidemanis impossible with these instructions
16:25 sfan5 why do you need the android sdk?
16:25 markveidemanis its in a temporary filder
16:25 markveidemanis idk
16:25 reactor filder
16:25 markveidemanis it wout show my device
16:26 rubenwardy joined #minetest
16:26 sfan5 markveidemanis: enable usb debugging
16:26 Jordach because amazon removed the adb bridge
16:26 markveidemanis I have
16:27 Jordach kindle fires do not have adb
16:27 markveidemanis I uninstalled the driver, unplugged, enabled adb, plugged back in
16:27 Evolykane c[_]
16:27 sfan5 markveidemanis: enable usb debugging on your kindle
16:27 markveidemanis i have
16:27 markveidemanis security/enable adb
16:28 sfan5 enable that
16:28 markveidemanis its on
16:28 sfan5 now do adb devices again
16:29 markveidemanis List of devices attached
16:29 markveidemanis #Nothing
16:29 sfan5 try googling
16:29 sfan5 brb dinner
16:29 reactor brb church
16:29 reactor adb?
16:30 reactor Is that a debugger program?
16:31 markveidemanis idk, think so
16:31 markveidemanis android debugger
16:31 markveidemanis try google
16:31 VanessaE Android Debug Bridge
16:31 reactor oh.
16:31 VanessaE it's used for copying stuff to/from an android device and directly accessing the file system
16:31 VanessaE among other stuff
16:32 VanessaE it's how you jailbreak many android devices.
16:32 Jordach root*
16:32 markveidemanis Could you halp me, VanessaE?
16:32 VanessaE with what?
16:32 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459
16:32 markveidemanis my aim
16:32 markveidemanis *goal
16:32 VanessaE the word is "help", not "halp".
16:32 VanessaE oh that, np.
16:32 VanessaE no.
16:33 VanessaE sorry, I don't know how do to that.
16:33 markveidemanis ...
16:33 markveidemanis it says!
16:33 VanessaE then do it
16:33 markveidemanis I need help with adb though
16:33 markveidemanis My kindle wont show up when i do adb devices
16:34 markveidemanis http://s8.postimg.org/up0slnzj9/Screenshot_15.png
16:34 markveidemanis It should work though
16:35 VanessaE kindle runs android?
16:36 VanessaE huh.
16:36 VanessaE didn't know that
16:36 ruskie atleast the tablets do
16:36 ruskie not sure if the ereaders do
16:36 reactor Bricked.
16:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: try googling "kindle fire adb"
16:41 reactor Kindles cause fire?
16:41 reactor No wonder... any device with battery big enough is capable of self-ignition.
16:42 Ritchie_ joined #minetest
16:42 reactor Especially hooked up to some external cable with good ol' 5V going on random pins.
16:43 reactor What I'm saying is, are you sure you soldered the cable right, markveidemanis?
16:44 sfan5 markveidemanis: https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/f​ire/connect-adb.html#Prerequisites after "Windows users who"
16:45 markveidemanis done that already
16:45 markveidemanis then plugged in with enabled adb
16:46 markveidemanis maybe im using the wrong adb...
16:46 sfan5 and?
16:47 markveidemanis i think i was ._.
16:47 sfan5 maybe try https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/​fire/connect-adb.html#Connecting
16:47 markveidemanis IT FUCKING WORKS
16:47 markveidemanis SUCH A DUMB MISTAKE...
16:47 markveidemanis I was using the wrong adb!
16:47 markveidemanis right...
16:48 markveidemanis i can close all these tabs :P
16:48 VanessaE CLOSE ALL THE TABS!
16:48 VanessaE :)
16:49 VanessaE *sheepish look*..  close ALL the tabs?? O.o
16:49 markveidemanis oh ffs
16:50 markveidemanis permission denied to execute
16:50 reactor markveidemanis: now you've probably killed the device.
16:50 sfan5 chmod 0777 <filename>
16:50 reactor Good job.
16:50 sfan5 reactor: stop being so pessimistic
16:50 ruskie who's pessimistic... just trolling
16:51 reactor Some people should stay away from electronics.
16:51 markveidemanis ok
16:52 sfan5 markveidemanis: did the chmod?
16:52 markveidemanis yep, worked
16:52 markveidemanis as far as the last step
16:52 reactor sfan5: I'm not pessimistic.
16:52 markveidemanis with spk
16:52 reactor sfan5: I'm actually _optimistic_.
16:53 reactor Thank god the battery didn't catch fire because of the wrong cable.
16:53 reactor That'd be a hell of a lesson, though.
16:53 markveidemanis "Error, not an spk file"
16:54 sfan5 your forgot the decompress step
16:54 sfan5 -r
16:54 reactor decompess?
16:54 reactor There's no such word eh!
16:57 sfan5 markveidemanis: ?
16:58 reactor I told you that would happen. He's killed himself some impossible way.
17:01 sfan5 markveidemanis: ??
17:02 reactor You see?
17:03 reactor And I told him he should stay away from electronics.
17:03 sfan5 markveidemanis: ???
17:03 reactor The kind of people he belongs to doesn't get along well with technology.
17:03 sfan5 hm
17:03 virtualfall joined #minetest
17:05 virtualfall I create a Cookie Cliker HTML Mouse icon! http://gdriv.es/cookieclickermousehtml
17:05 virtualfall created
17:05 nore joined #minetest
17:05 VanessaE er, ok
17:05 sfan5 virtualfall: you mean s/HTML/CSS/
17:06 reactor virtualfall: and I break out of the cage and I GETS it.
17:06 reactor s/I/my brother Bilo/
17:06 virtualfall sfan5 no, only HTML
17:06 VanessaE no, that's css
17:07 sfan5 virtualfall: <style> starts a CSS area
17:07 VanessaE <style> blah </style> is css.
17:07 virtualfall ah... oopes...
17:07 VanessaE (I always wondered how people did those custom cursors...)
17:07 kaeza magic
17:07 VanessaE :P
17:08 markveidemanis can i just extract it and push that to the droid?
17:09 reactor Why override users' system cursor?
17:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: you would need to push every single file
17:09 markveidemanis theres an spk file inside
17:09 sfan5 just extract it on the device
17:09 reactor I have right to use whatever cursor _ I _ like.
17:09 sfan5 ..
17:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: do step 10
17:09 reactor markveidemanis: oh, so you're alive.
17:09 reactor markveidemanis: use hammer.
17:10 rubenwardy Cookie!]
17:10 PilzAdam reactor, you seem to me like a troll
17:10 reactor PlizAdam, I aren't one.
17:10 virtualfall markveidemanis my cursor can only be used in websites
17:11 reactor Some do perceive me as one.
17:11 markveidemanis OH YEA
17:11 reactor Happens to the very best of us.
17:11 markveidemanis can i not put the files on the sd card?
17:11 sfan5 markveidemanis: no
17:11 markveidemanis why>
17:11 sfan5 you cannot execute files from the sd card
17:11 markveidemanis Wait
17:11 sfan5 it is mounted with "noexec" option
17:12 markveidemanis I dont have an sd card...
17:12 sfan5 to remove that you need to be root
17:12 sfan5 ahahahaha lol
17:12 reactor left #minetest
17:12 markveidemanis Its part of the internal system
17:12 virtualfall original image for download: http://www.mavic-thegame.com/wp-conten​t/uploads/2013/09/8c21be93ca-70x70.png
17:15 markveidemanis ARRGGHG
17:15 markveidemanis YOU WERE RIGHT
17:15 markveidemanis i hate it when that happens
17:16 Hunterz joined #minetest
17:16 markveidemanis wait...
17:16 markveidemanis i can just copy the files to the sd...
17:16 sfan5 yes you can
17:17 sfan5 but you need to move them to /data/local/tmp before using them
17:17 markveidemanis yep
17:17 markveidemanis hmm...
17:18 markveidemanis I have no idea what to do now
17:18 markveidemanis I dont want to go rummaging through the files
17:18 markveidemanis how do i root my device?
17:18 rubenwardy joined #minetest
17:19 sfan5 markveidemanis: first you open your internet browser, then you type in http://google.com
17:21 markveidemanis well, server works
17:21 germa anyone compile on lubuntu
17:21 germa ?
17:22 markveidemanis oh mah fukkin god
17:22 markveidemanis bit on the sloppy side
17:24 sfan5 germa: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
17:25 germa sfan5 thank you very much!
17:25 germa now i see
17:26 proller joined #minetest
17:29 VanessaE sfan5: how close did you get to getting the client to run on android? I seem to recall some progress there?
17:30 sfan5 VanessaE: as close as main()
17:30 sfan5 after that it just crashes
17:30 sfan5 and remote debugging is a pain in the a**
17:30 sfan5 if you want to try it https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115098#p115098
17:31 sfan5 hm
17:31 sfan5 I could also just give the complete folder..
17:32 Evergreen joined #minetest
17:32 Evergreen Sup everyone
17:32 sfan5 hi 3vergr33n
17:33 VanessaE no need, sfan.  I was just curious.
17:33 Evergreen You mean 3v3rgr33n
17:33 Evergreen 1337 speak.   :P
17:34 VanessaE 3\/3|?6|?33|\|
17:35 VanessaE (ow.)
17:35 germa 63RM4
17:36 baskitcaise joined #minetest
17:37 Evergreen VanessaE, New ascii art logo!
17:37 Evergreen (jk.0
17:37 VanessaE heh
17:37 Evergreen (jk.)
17:37 VanessaE if I were truly any good at it, I'd do that with shift-JIS art :P
17:38 Evergreen Looks like the logo of some electro house producer
17:38 VanessaE or whatever it's called
17:40 Evolykane joined #minetest
17:41 thexyz /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
17:41 rubenwardy lol
17:41 rubenwardy j
17:41 thexyz WON’T YOU BECOME A MAGICAL GIRL?
17:41 Jordach thexyz, unicode is cheating
17:42 thexyz wat
17:43 Evergreen What Jordach said
17:44 Jordach ASCII ART is supposed to be in ASCII, not your new fangled unicode
17:44 Evolykane left #minetest
17:44 Jordach </old_geezer>
17:44 thexyz well VanessaE mentioned Shift-JIS art
17:44 thexyz > old
17:44 Jordach my first computer was a late 80's amiga
17:45 thexyz and?
17:45 Jordach i know quite a bit about computing
17:46 VanessaE 1-up, my first was an early-80's Timex-Sinclair 1000. :)
17:46 thexyz cool
17:46 Page76 joined #minetest
17:46 germa my first is commodore plus4, but i know nothing about computers
17:46 germa was
17:47 VanessaE Plus/4 doesn't count :P
17:47 thexyz Jordach: so do you know how to determine if a program will halt or run indefinitely on a given input?
17:47 VanessaE (because Commodore just plain botched it)
17:48 germa yes, but kung-fu was funny
17:48 germa later my brother buy c64
17:49 thexyz what's this shit https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=100644#p100644 https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=114946#p114946 https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115029#p115029
17:50 JackGruff what the zog
17:51 VanessaE yet another pissing contest, of course
17:51 markveidemanis sfan5, how does one make a spk archive?
17:52 monkeycoder joined #minetest
17:53 VanessaE rubenwardy: http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/998796010/mt_hd​x_logo_organic_womens_tshirt_dark.jpg?color=Black&​amp;height=460&amp;width=460&amp;padToSquare=true    <----- HAH!  a watermark over MY image.   FFFFFUUUUUUUU cafepress :P
17:53 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userdata/1/spk.exe
17:54 sfan5 run "spk.exe cv <archive name> <the files you want>" in the console
17:57 markveidemanis the files i want?
17:57 markveidemanis Theres tons!
17:57 sfan5 it does it recursively
17:57 markveidemanis say i want to compress 'x'?
17:57 markveidemanis x is a directory
17:57 sfan5 "spk.exe cv archive.spk x"
17:58 Page76 left #minetest
17:59 markveidemanis thanks, tis working
17:59 Miner_48er joined #minetest
18:00 sfan5 running it without args gives your help
18:00 thexyz we should have a server where all players nicknames are replaced with "Anonymous"
18:00 sfan5 haha
18:00 sfan5 4test
18:00 sfan5 (instead of 4chan)
18:00 thexyz dunno about whether the client will accept that
18:00 sfan5 I'mm sure it will
18:00 markveidemanis it ran a bit, then stopped
18:01 sfan5 -m
18:01 Calinou also make chat green if it starts with >
18:01 PilzAdam thexyz, Im pretty sure it will accept that
18:01 thexyz PilzAdam: doesn't it use some sets or maps?
18:01 thexyz indexed by player name
18:01 PilzAdam AFAIK no
18:01 PilzAdam it gets the names when the generic object is send, and uses it only for chat completion
18:02 germa sfan5 you are my angel!!!
18:02 thexyz hm.. worth trying then
18:02 germa yeee
18:02 sfan5 I prefer angles over angels
18:02 germa thank you sfan5 and thank you all for help me!
18:03 sfan5 I think I will remove the unity desktop and install lxde
18:03 germa very gentle unknow people
18:04 whirm1 joined #minetest
18:05 Calinou sfan5: or xfce! :D
18:05 sfan5 oh right xfe
18:05 sfan5 *xfce
18:05 sfan5 lxde is too light
18:06 iqualfragile joined #minetest
18:06 Evergreen sfan5, I switched a while ago, and I'll never look back.   :D
18:06 Calinou xfce is more featureful
18:06 * Calinou is still on xubuntu 13.04
18:06 Evergreen xfce is awesome
18:06 markveidemanis it stops working randomly
18:06 markveidemanis sfan5 ^
18:06 sfan5 markveidemanis: what, spk.exe?
18:07 markveidemanis yes
18:07 sfan5 how many files do you want to compress
18:07 sfan5 it currently has a hardlimit of ..
18:07 markveidemanis 3,908 Files, 368 Folders
18:07 sfan5 ok one sec
18:08 sfan5 it currently has a hardlimit of 1024
18:08 sfan5 I can change that
18:08 germa now... try to play online ahah
18:08 markveidemanis ok
18:08 markveidemanis I have a lot of files...
18:08 markveidemanis hold on, i think i know what to do
18:09 markveidemanis i dont need all this...
18:09 markveidemanis kindles too slow anyway
18:09 Zeitgeist_ joined #minetest
18:09 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/u​pload/userdata/1/spk2.exe
18:09 sfan5 use that one
18:09 sfan5 support up to 4096
18:09 markveidemanis oh
18:09 markveidemanis ok
18:11 sfan5 time to install xfce....
18:12 thexyz xfce is cool
18:12 thexyz you should totally switch to it
18:12 sfan5 I'm doing it right now
18:12 sfan5 I should maybe do a clean install
18:12 sfan5 but nah..
18:13 VanessaE XFCE Is Your Friend.™
18:13 pitriss i preffer trinity desktop:)
18:13 VanessaE heretic!
18:13 VanessaE :)
18:13 pitriss Yeah:)
18:15 markveidemanis IT WORKS!!!
18:15 markveidemanis how could i make lag a bit less?
18:15 markveidemanis what should i echo to the conf? :)
18:15 sfan5 disable_anticheat = true
18:15 markveidemanis wait
18:16 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8419295
18:16 markveidemanis current
18:16 markveidemanis Im gonna have fun with my own server!
18:16 markveidemanis however not with the shell :P
18:17 markveidemanis How would i launch minetest without a pc?
18:17 markveidemanis hmm...
18:17 markveidemanis nohup?
18:17 markveidemanis nope
18:17 Jordach sfan5, crank that up to a mega 1024
18:17 sfan5 markveidemanis: one sec
18:18 markveidemanis I have ssh access to my @server@
18:18 markveidemanis 'server'
18:18 sfan5 xfce is installed
18:18 sfan5 ssh? do you have your kindle rooted?
18:18 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7484
18:19 markveidemanis nope
18:19 PilzAdam "Does anyone know where would I post an annoying post in the forum?!"
18:19 sfan5 lol
18:20 markveidemanis haha
18:20 sfan5 brb, switching to xfce
18:20 Jordach sfan5, sfan5! we need you!
18:21 markveidemanis Now to forward the port...
18:21 sfan5 this is 100% nicer
18:21 Jordach markveidemanis, pics or it didnt happemn
18:21 sfan5 Jordach: i'm back
18:21 Jordach happen
18:21 Jordach thexyz, lol
18:21 markveidemanis hmm>
18:22 Jordach sfan5, crosshair_ud.png
18:22 Jordach how does one move forwards and back at the same time
18:22 sfan5 I don't know
18:22 sfan5 but it should still look right if you press both
18:23 arsdragonfl joined #minetest
18:23 Exio4 [15:13:24] <pitriss> i preffer trinity desktop:)
18:23 Exio4 the real kde3 was awesome
18:24 pitriss Exio4: yeah it was.. but trinity is not worse..:)
18:24 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115125#p115125 "I made some crosshair icons lol wont upload xd"
18:24 Exio4 kde3 seemed faster the last time i tried to use trinity
18:25 markveidemanis 5.81.157.109
18:25 markveidemanis not up yet though
18:25 pitriss Exio4: maybe it is depend on hw..:)
18:26 markveidemanis 5.81.157.109:30010
18:26 sfan5 !up 5.81.157.109 30010
18:26 MinetestBot 5.81.157.109:30010 is up (307ms)
18:26 Exio4 pitriss: the same hardware, an intel atom n270, 1gb of ram
18:26 Exio4 a netbook, a common one
18:26 cisoun joined #minetest
18:27 Exio4 the other hardware was an amd duron at 900mhz, 2001 cpu, with 256+128mb of ram, debian lenny vs debian squeeze
18:27 Exio4 the official packages of debian lenny, the 'official' trinity packages
18:27 markveidemanis It may not be powerful, but its comvenient
18:28 sfan5 and I thought the kindle was fast..
18:28 pitriss Exio4: idk.. only speculations but different OS version can have different performance too..
18:28 sfan5 BTW the android build of minetestserver should also work on the raspberrypi
18:28 sfan5 (only the static linked one)
18:29 Exio4 it was the same kernel fwiw, but yeah
18:29 Exio4 i know
18:30 markveidemanis error
18:30 markveidemanis player moves too fast...
18:30 sfan5 xfce is so much more nices
18:30 sfan5 nicer
18:30 Exio4 the difference was mainly that kde3 + xcompmgr actually left 'enough cpu' for other things, like firefox 12 (or 14, i don't recall what i tried at that moment) with 4-5 tabs, and with trinity and everything disabled, it was actually too laggy to be usable :P
18:30 sfan5 markveidemanis: disable_anticheat = true
18:30 Exio4 i didn't try it here, this computer is way better though :P
18:31 Jordach thexyz, or i can just rip them manually
18:32 thexyz you forgot about my question D:
18:32 Exio4 sfan5: getting the client or the server should be compiled easily in the rpi or any real linux, though.. :P
18:33 sfan5 thexyz: "lol won't upload" ehm..
18:33 sfan5 Exio4: it works on anything that runs linux
18:33 markveidemanis Done
18:33 sfan5 (even your toaster)
18:33 markveidemanis Someone wanna build a house?
18:33 markveidemanis just to test
18:33 sfan5 markveidemanis: make sure you start the server with "--config <config filename>" to get it to use the config
18:34 markveidemanis I thought i did, seems to work now
18:34 Exio4 sfan5: wut? :P
18:34 Exio4 what toaster?! the netbook, the amd duron, or the phone?
18:35 sfan5 just put your raspberry pi in a toaster and you will see
18:35 thexyz this topic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7445 should be looked carefully for
18:35 markveidemanis oh...
18:35 Exio4 lol
18:35 markveidemanis worldedit crached
18:35 markveidemanis voxelmanip
18:35 markveidemanis ...
18:35 markveidemanis sfan5,
18:35 sfan5 >What the heck?! why can't people just all use .zip!? tar.gz is sooooo hard to unzip in windows. and .zip is possible to unzip in all OS's
18:35 markveidemanis can you make a new build?
18:36 sfan5 I can't unzip .zip on my toaster!!1!!111
18:36 sfan5 markveidemanis: sure, may take sometime, but not long
18:36 markveidemanis ok
18:36 Exio4 did you make an arm build or what sfan5? :P
18:36 markveidemanis Now i can have a server!!!
18:36 thexyz .zip is what sane people who care about compatibility use
18:36 Exio4 for markveidemanis
18:36 thexyz because it works everywhere
18:36 Jordach markveidemanis,
18:36 Jordach try finishing your sentences for once
18:37 Jordach see you you like it
18:37 markveidemanis i cant be bothe
18:37 sfan5 Exio4: it's this one https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=95459#p95459
18:38 markveidemanis sfan5, lmk when you start compiling
18:38 Exio4 ah
18:38 Exio4 those builds
18:39 Exio4 i compiled it with uclibc and stuff too, just for trying it locally :P
18:40 markveidemanis sfan5, can you also make the chat work
18:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: chat does not work??!
18:40 sfan5 it is supposed to :P
18:40 germa hello! and thank you again! see you again!
18:40 germa left #minetest
18:40 markveidemanis idk, says it doesnt in the post _._
18:40 markveidemanis ._.
18:40 kaeza joined #minetest
18:40 markveidemanis *straight face*
18:41 Jordach that's probably that chat bug that fucked up all chat
18:41 Jordach sfan5, ^
18:41 Jordach we tried it before
18:41 Exio4 the chat works with uclibc
18:41 sfan5 ^
18:41 Exio4 in my build, at least
18:41 Exio4 and as far as i know, it does with sfan5's
18:41 sfan5 markveidemanis: " the chat is no longer broken."
18:41 sfan5 Do you even read bro?
18:44 Tiktalik joined #minetest
18:44 sfan5 the fuck xfce
18:47 markveidemanis Exio4, wheres 'your' build>
18:50 Evergreen joined #minetest
18:51 Exio4 markveidemanis: /home/exio4/sources/old/minetest-arm/bin/
18:51 Exio4 i never uploaded it
18:51 markveidemanis ..
18:51 markveidemanis k
18:51 markveidemanis gtg now
18:51 Exio4 i can update it anytime
18:51 markveidemanis bbl
18:51 markveidemanis plz make new build
18:51 Exio4 if someone needs a build... but it is just another minetest build
18:52 markveidemanis i need 0.4.8
18:52 markveidemanis with voxelmanip[
18:53 Exio4 talking about that, i never tried leveldb in my arm device :O
18:54 sfan5 markveidemanis: compiling now
18:55 Exio4 aww, i'm just doing git pull
18:55 Exio4 :(
19:00 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/rtGZnb3.jpg
19:00 Jordach hahahaha
19:01 Exio4 http://clickingbad.nullism.com/
19:01 Exio4 i have more meth than cash :(
19:03 sfan5 Exio4: not again...
19:03 Exio4 what? >:D
19:06 Calinou joined #minetest
19:07 PilzAdam Exio4, the buttons dont do anything for me
19:07 Exio4 enable javascript
19:08 PilzAdam I did
19:08 Exio4 how are you "playing" it?
19:08 PilzAdam clicking "COOK!" or "SELL!" does nothing
19:08 Exio4 flood cook, to produce meth, and then sell it, :P
19:09 Exio4 works for me
19:09 JackGruff i think i'll make a dope mod
19:10 JackGruff you can make meth underground and be a middle-aged man
19:10 JackGruff and throw pizzas in the air
19:10 JackGruff hmm
19:10 JackGruff blackmarket on a server?
19:14 sfan5 markveidemanis: done
19:14 rsiska joined #minetest
19:20 VanessaE !seen zeg9
19:20 MinetestBot VanessaE: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
19:20 VanessaE bah
19:22 sfan5 markveidemanis: http://127.0.0.1/upload/userdata/​1/minetest-0.4.7-dev-android.spk
19:22 PilzAdam sfan5 is trollin again
19:22 sfan5 not again
19:22 sfan5 I hate this
19:22 TheLastProject Heh, 127.0.0.1
19:22 VanessaE what's the difference between an spk and an apk?
19:23 sfan5 markveidemanis: soryy http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/userd​ata/1/minetest-0.4.7-dev-android.spk
19:23 sfan5 *sorry
19:23 sfan5 VanessaE: an .apk is essentially just .zip spk is http://github.com/sfan5/spk
19:23 VanessaE ah
19:23 VanessaE a custom format ;)
19:27 Menche joined #minetest
19:30 JackGruff woah, is mt coming to android?>
19:31 sfan5 the server already works on there
19:44 roboman2444 joined #minetest
19:47 sfan5 yes! hotot finally works
19:47 VanessaE ?
19:49 Jordach sfan5, got twitter
19:49 Jordach -,
19:49 sfan5 sure
19:49 * Jordach wonders if Jordach can find sfan5 on the bluebook
19:49 Jordach ;)
19:50 sfan5 bluebook, whats that
20:03 Evergreen joined #minetest
20:10 thexyz sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115146#p115146 why can't it be paid?
20:11 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115141#p115141
20:12 Calinou wb Evergreen
20:12 sfan5 thexyz: It could, but I think it is highly unlikely
20:12 Evergreen Hello
20:12 thexyz sfan5: will you be submitting it to google play?
20:13 sfan5 why not
20:13 thexyz dunno, maybe you're obsessed with freedom or something
20:13 Calinou that requires $5 :p
20:13 Calinou but yeah, do it
20:14 sfan5 it requires $5
20:14 thexyz oh wow
20:14 thexyz should kickstart it
20:14 sfan5 heh
20:14 thexyz also, there are now attachments on forum
20:14 sfan5 "Minetest - open source infinite-world block sandbox game and a game engine" "Project goal: $5"
20:16 sfan5 "Backers: 1" "Comments: 1" "Comment #1: Here are your damn 5 dollars..."
20:16 thexyz we'll get to the news probably
20:16 * Menche pledges 7 cents
20:18 sfan5 wut
20:19 sfan5 it costs $25 not $5
20:19 thexyz wow
20:19 sfan5 and I don't have credit card
20:20 thexyz kickstarter definitely needed then
20:20 sfan5 yeah
20:21 VanessaE O.o it costs $25 to what...put an app on Google Play?
20:21 sfan5 yes
20:22 VanessaE no allowance for free apps???
20:22 thexyz to get dev license I think
20:22 VanessaE ahhh
20:22 Calinou to prevent abuse
20:22 VanessaE that would tend to explain why so damn many apps are ad-supported if not outright cost.
20:22 thexyz it's one time it seems
20:22 Calinou it's one time yes
20:22 thexyz 25$ is nothing
20:22 VanessaE I always wondered about that.
20:22 Calinou if you put it on google play you could also put it on F-droid
20:23 Calinou thexyz: not nothing, but it's not much
20:23 Calinou still the cost of a Minecraft account :>
20:23 thexyz considering it's one time
20:24 proller joined #minetest
20:25 TheLastProject F-Droid!
20:26 kaeza joined #minetest
20:27 Calinou "F-Droid" sounds like "f***-droid" sometimes when said
20:27 Calinou but that's just me :phoronix rolleyes:
20:29 markveidemanis Hi
20:29 markveidemanis Im back
20:29 markveidemanis sfan5: i beleive thats 0.4.7, not .4.8
20:30 sfan5 markveidemanis: 0.4.8 is not out yet
20:30 sfan5 it's 0.4.7-dev (current git head)
20:30 sfan5 this is what Uberi (co-dev of WorldEdit) calls 0.4.8
20:30 markveidemanis ok
20:30 sfan5 °op
20:30 sfan5 !op
20:31 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions. | "XFCE is way nicer than Unity" ~sfan5
20:31 sfan5 !deop
20:31 PilzAdam sfan5, no
20:31 markveidemanis sry
20:31 PilzAdam remove that
20:31 JackGruff what do you guys thing of  running a kickstarter like 0 a.d did?
20:31 JackGruff think*
20:32 sfan5 !op
20:32 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions. | PilzAdam doesn't like opinions
20:32 sfan5 !deop
20:32 sfan5 better?
20:32 Menche accurate.
20:32 PilzAdam yes
20:32 sfan5 JackGruff: we don't need a kickstarter
20:33 JackGruff y
20:33 PilzAdam because free and open source and stuff
20:33 ShadowNinja sfan5: "!topic change -1 s/something/something else/" is better. :-)
20:34 PilzAdam bye
20:34 sfan5 ShadowNinja: nah, I prefer the manualy way
20:34 sfan5 -y
20:34 thexyz now since he left you can change it back
20:38 sfan5 good idea :P
20:38 sfan5 s/P/D/
20:40 Menche https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115144#p115144   ?
20:41 Menche will be able to upload images directly to the forum? or just a preview page for images?
20:41 ShadowNinja Menche: Yep, see discussion in -dev.
20:41 ShadowNinja Menche: Well, not images, but zips and the like, for mods.
20:42 Menche btw, what is the word in that image? google translate says it's "cabbage casserole"
20:42 thexyz no, images are disallowed
20:44 Evergreen sfan5, how fast does minetest run on android?
20:44 thexyz it doesn't
20:44 markveidemanis Quite fast
20:45 markveidemanis sfan5: new one is bugged
20:45 sfan5 markveidemanis: define bugges
20:46 markveidemanis i cant copy from the terminal
20:47 markveidemanis http://s7.postimg.org/tk8xu1qgr/Screenshot_16.png
20:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: you need to tell it where your world folder is
20:48 sfan5 also it seems like you didn't unpack it completly
20:50 markveidemanis thanks!
21:10 ShadowNinja sfan5: proller_ proller__ and troller should be combined in the irc stats.
21:11 sfan5 ok
21:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: Also sapier and sapier1.
21:12 ShadowNinja sfan5: And hmmm+
21:14 sfan5 new stats generated
21:15 Menche joined #minetest
21:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: h|mmmm, hmmmmm, and hmmmmmm are still seperate.
21:20 sfan5 oh..
21:20 khor joined #minetest
21:27 bas080 joined #minetest
21:28 kaeza thexyz, nice avatar :3
21:37 Taoki Does latest Minetest have Lua function to "awaken" an area of world even when a player isn't there exploring?
21:37 Taoki Very much in need of it for one of my mods
21:37 Exio4 luavoxelmanip
21:37 Taoki Someone made the code once I remember, but no idea if it got in
21:38 Taoki Exio4: That can activate chnks with no players nearby?
21:38 Exio4 yeah
21:38 Taoki What about areas that weren't generated yet? That's what I actually need it for... I need it to generate an area in a given box and work with it
21:39 Exio4 no idea in that case
21:39 Taoki hmmmm: Any info on that?
21:40 ShadowNinja Taoki: It will load the area but not generate it.
21:40 ShadowNinja (Excluding things from default like nyancats)
21:40 Taoki ok. So there's no alternative to generate an area when the player isn't nearby too?
21:41 ShadowNinja Other than the force_load pull, no. But even that pull won't work for far away areas as you can't add entities in unloaded areas.
21:42 Taoki Ok. I wonder if that can be fixed somehow
21:43 ShadowNinja Taoki: What are you trying to do?
21:43 Taoki ShadowNinja: Structures mod. I want to make it capable of spawning huge cities... hundreds of nodes wide. But even if server stress can handle it, all of the corners need to have been loaded
21:44 Taoki So whenever a city spawn is triggered, the area hundreds of nodes around the player most be loaded and active... till terrain and the like is examined at least
21:46 ShadowNinja Taoki: You don't have to spawn the whole thing at a time. Use register_on_generated and check if the chunk is part of a city and generate that part.
21:46 Taoki I use register_on_generated to trigger the starting point. But if I think about it, maybe there would be some way to assign each part to its chunk...
21:46 Taoki Doubtful though
21:49 ShadowNinja There surely is a way, but I'm not experienced with mapgen, so I wouldn't know how to do it.
21:50 proller Taoki, force load
21:51 proller https://github.com/minetest/​minetest/pull/606?source=cc
21:51 Taoki proller: Using voxel mainpulator? And does that also generate the area?
21:51 Taoki ok, will look
21:52 Taoki Was that already merged?\
21:52 Exio4 proller: already said by ShadowNinja ...
21:52 proller ups ok
21:52 Taoki Ah, so it's the same thing... no generating
21:53 ShadowNinja It will keep the area loaded, but I don't think you can add a entity to a unloaded area.
21:53 Taoki Entities aren't important, I only need to place nodes
21:53 diemartin joined #minetest
21:53 Taoki But also detect the generated terrain
21:53 ShadowNinja And you will probably have to wait for the next server step to have the blocks actually loaded.
21:54 ShadowNinja Taoki: force_load uses entities.
21:54 Taoki That's ok
21:54 sfan5 good night everyone
21:54 Taoki night
21:55 Taoki Right... so I'd need to use a fake entity to load the area
21:55 Exio4 ...
21:55 Exio4 the pull request was never merged
21:55 Exio4 you actually can't use that nice feature
21:55 Taoki ah
21:56 Taoki The story of Minetest pull requests :P
21:56 Exio4 entities are buggy, that is why it wasn't merged
21:56 Exio4 or, do you want 150 entities forceloading random areas because they are buggy?
21:57 Taoki nah
22:00 bas080 joined #minetest
22:13 Taoki I thought about using on_generate to spawn every part of the city instead. But there are so many problems with that I wouldn't know how to start...
22:14 Taoki First of all, how would I detect the average height at which to flatten and obtian a flat floor, that I can put the buildings into? I'd need to cut through huge mountains and cover huge valleys
22:14 Taoki Then, how would I know where to spawn a city (randomly decided) before on_generate gets to run in any of those places
22:19 djdduty joined #minetest
22:19 djdduty joined #minetest
22:26 smoke_fumus joined #minetest
22:39 monkeycoder joined #minetest
23:08 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=115175#p115175 Looking for advice on my Structures mod, based on ShadowNinja's idea.
23:08 Taoki There are two major problems I can't figure out
23:31 Evergreen joined #minetest
23:31 Evergreen sup people
23:33 VanessaE hu
23:33 VanessaE hi
23:39 Megaf some people say, my server is a lagless server,
23:39 Megaf how is that even possible?
23:39 VanessaE there are no lagless servers, only faster ones. :)
23:39 VanessaE not if the server has anything fun going on anyway
23:39 VanessaE lag comes with the territory
23:40 Evergreen sfan5, Love the player list pull request, I hope it is merged.
23:43 Megaf VanessaE, indeed
23:43 Megaf VanessaE, BTW, thanks for your mod plantlife, its really good looking
23:44 Megaf folks, it would be nice if we could define the amount of cache to be used, in MB
23:44 Megaf either on client and server side
23:44 VanessaE you're quite welcome - you should look at Mossmanikin's (and company) Undergrowth modpack and dryplants mods too
23:44 VanessaE they use plants_lib, and the set really works well together
23:48 Nocte joined #minetest
23:48 * Nocte is scared. :[
23:49 rsiska joined #minetest
23:49 Nocte Damn it, reading Creepypastas at night time is not the wisest choice one can make. :|
23:50 Nocte Hopefully nobody writes Minetest creepypasta.
23:50 VanessaE someone probably already has done that
23:56 Nocte SomeOrdinaryGamers' latest one was screwed up.

| Channels | #minetest index | Today | | Google Search | Plaintext