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00:00 Lordeon lovely*
00:00 xiong I'm not documenting anything yet. I'm throwing out the possibility.
00:00 [0gb_us] xiong, exactly. The unstable version is not for production use, by definition.
00:00 xiong Right.
00:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: when some popular mod starts using a feature only present in a git build, or a git build breaks compatibility with previous stables in some way, that's when I start calling the stable build outdated.
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00:00 [0gb_us] I was arguing that point months ago too.
00:01 xiong How about a 'quit' feature?
00:02 VanessaE PilzAdam: and besides which, we need eyes on the git builds.  We're never gonna wring out all the (important) bugs if people don't use git.
00:02 kaeza quit?
00:03 xiong Yah. A button, menu selection, hotkey, or all three that quits the client.
00:03 VanessaE there is.
00:03 PilzAdam in-game or in the menu?
00:03 OldCoder Folks my 20 MT worlds are up for now. Still at 0.4.4 level. I am debugging the transition to 0.4.7 and will be asking questions.
00:03 kaeza xiong, hit ESC?
00:03 VanessaE Esc, "Exit to OS"
00:04 [0gb_us] I agree that we need eyes on the unstable branch. But we also must not spread the lie that the current stable branch is "outdated".
00:04 OldCoder kaeza and VanessaE will you be awake for a couple of hours?
00:04 xiong 'Esc' only quits the client from the Multiplayer tab.
00:04 VanessaE OldCoder: sure
00:04 kaeza OldCoder, yep
00:04 OldCoder t y
00:04 OldCoder Great
00:04 VanessaE xiong: oh you mean from the main menu
00:04 zat Someone remembers the item code for Tree Stick?
00:04 PilzAdam xiong, it should work on all tabs
00:04 kaeza zat, default:stick
00:04 PilzAdam click on the background an then hit Esc again
00:04 VanessaE zat: that's a bug in the Crafting Guide.  you don't need a "tree stick".  use wood planks.
00:04 PilzAdam there might be some focus problems
00:05 xiong I don't say, enable quit from within play. Best to enforce return to MM first. But no quit from single, don't understand.
00:05 OldCoder xiong, I will be pleased to run any mods of yours once my transition to 0.4.7 is complete. That may take a while.
00:05 zat thanks VanessaE lol
00:05 xiong Also, the standard quit shortcut is Ctrl-Q.
00:05 VanessaE zat: well, RealBadAngel says it's a bug in the engine's code for getting all crafting recipes.
00:05 VanessaE either way it makes Craft Guide just about useless.
00:06 xiong OldCoder, I don't have any mods except now I've inherited 'money'.
00:06 OldCoder Very well!
00:06 VanessaE For any node or item where there is a group defined, even if that group is not being used in the currently-viewed recipe, the recipe will be displayed wrong.
00:06 OldCoder Stay in touch regardless
00:06 zat So VanessaE, tree sticks are "deprecated" or something?
00:06 VanessaE homedecor recipes that call for black dye, for example, will show as needing LIME dye of all things.
00:06 VanessaE wood planks often show as "tree stick", etc.
00:06 VanessaE no, it's a bug.
00:07 zat but do tree sticks exist for other stuff?
00:07 VanessaE a "tree stick" is the result of putting a tree trunk through the CNC Mill machine
00:07 xiong Um, I guess I'll say it again: If you have installed 'money' recently then you may have surfaced an ugly bug that swaps buy and sell prices. Ask players to retune their shops by punching them and checking prices.
00:07 VanessaE it's the one that looks sorta like a fencepost.
00:07 zat yes it is
00:07 xiong If you start a new world with the current master branch of money, all will be well. Only affects older shops.
00:08 zat ok, if it is a bug then nevermind
00:08 zat thanks Vane
00:08 Pilcrow which Craft Guide are you using? I've got Zeg9's craft guide mod and inventory++
00:09 xiong Yes, I like 'ui' too; but that recipe bug is bad.
00:09 ShadowNinja Pilcrow: Unified inventory.
00:12 Pilcrow ah. I liked unified inventory, but switched away from it when I decided to try 3d_armor/weildview and zeg9's skins and craft guide
00:13 [0gb_us] Yeah, that's Unified Inventory's biggest weakness: no extensibility.
00:14 xiong Okay, how about another beef? Why not make the fundamental UI items work as expected? I mean editable text and buttons. Copy-paste should work with editable text, active buttons should hilite.
00:14 xiong I'm looking at the mesecons Lua controller and wondering how I will ever cram in a whole script if I can't paste. Type it in by hand?=
00:15 [0gb_us] xiong, you said you're on GNU/Linux, right?
00:15 xiong Meanwhile, the CNC mill confuses players because they push a button and nothing happens immediately.
00:15 xiong Right. Linux Mint, specifically.
00:15 [0gb_us] The no copy/paste bug is GNU/Linux specific, and does not apply to KDE.
00:15 xiong And the buttons?
00:16 [0gb_us] I don't know about the buttons.
00:16 Pilcrow copy-paste does work, at least in my kde, but you can't right-click to copy. gotta use ctrl-c and ctrl-v
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00:16 xiong Hm. Well I take it somebody is working on the clipboard issue, then.
00:16 [0gb_us] Like I said, Pilcrow, it doesn't apply to KDE. It works in KDE.
00:17 [0gb_us] I don't know if anyone is working on it.
00:17 Pilcrow except it doesn't put copied text from minetest into the clipboard, so I can
00:17 [0gb_us] It kind of sucks. I can't use KeePassX to manage my Minetest passwords without copy/paste, so I have to use memorable passwords. Ugh.
00:18 Pilcrow *can't copy a luacontroller's code and paste it into a text editor
00:18 xiong Okay, so it's all the way broken for some machines and half broken for others. Not a high priority?
00:18 [0gb_us] Oh, right. That was the deal. We can copy and paste, we just can't copy form another application and paste into Minetest.
00:19 xiong This is a hurdle cleared about 20 years ago for most applications.
00:19 kahrl xiong: it's an irrlicht issue, not a minetest issue
00:20 Pilcrow 0gb: other way around. I can copy text from another application and paste it into minetest, but copying from minetest and pasting into another application doesn't work.
00:20 * xiong points to the guy in the next cubby
00:21 Pilcrow I made a tool that dumps a node's metadata into the debug log, so that helps a little. wasn't what I made it for though...  :P
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00:29 Pilcrow eggs
00:35 Pilcrow I need to go find something to eat...
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00:49 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Can you update the technic and technic_game forum posts?
00:50 ShadowNinja (Indev is no longer used, the stable branch was added, etc. We will also need a download for technic_game as it uses submodules now.)
00:51 Pilcrow well, I'm out for the night, guys. nice talking with ya~
00:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: You have a file upload service?
00:51 [0gb_us] G'night!
00:51 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/_mWtWz_aGyk
00:51 ShadowNinja Bye Pilcrow.
00:51 PilzAdam I cant stop laughing
00:52 zat Is it possible to take things from bones, being an admin?
00:52 [0gb_us] Not by default, unless that's changed.
00:55 ShadowNinja /giveme <bones items> //p set //set air
00:56 VanessaE ShadowNinja: technic post updated.  The technic_game post doesn't seem to require an update.
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01:41 OldCoder I have forgotten a lot. Does anybody see a ZIP link here:
01:41 OldCoder https://github.com/TheRedMood/redsand
01:41 OldCoder Ah found it
01:41 OldCoder nvm
01:41 [0gb_us] Github moved everything around, OldCoder.
01:42 PilzAdam bye
01:54 zat user wrote "nil" to sign at (887,4,-587)
01:54 zat 22:53:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /home/zat/.minetest/mods/ho​medecor/signs_lib.lua:322: bad argument #1 to 'len' (string expected, got nil)
01:54 zat D:!
01:56 [0gb_us] That's odd .... Homedecor shouldn't treat "nil" as nil.
01:56 [0gb_us] VanessaE, ^
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01:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
01:58 [0gb_us] Hello!
01:58 VanessaE weird
01:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
01:58 * VanessaE pokes kaeza
01:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
01:59 [0gb_us] I'm just trying (and failing) to find a place to watch Haven. What's up with you?
01:59 [0gb_us] <zat> user wrote "nil" to sign at (887,4,-587)
01:59 [0gb_us] <zat> 22:53:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /home/zat/.minetest/mods/ho​medecor/signs_lib.lua:322: bad argument #1 to 'len' (string expected, got nil)
01:59 [0gb_us] <zat> D:!
01:59 [0gb_us] <[0gb_us]> That's odd .... Homedecor shouldn't treat "nil" as nil.
01:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
01:59 VanessaE hi
01:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:00 OldCoder So should I use the latest mesecons?
02:00 VanessaE sure, why not?
02:01 VanessaE works fine on my server but make sure you've got a good, known-working 0.4.7-git build running first.
02:03 OldCoder Known working? I have simply cloned the latest. We will see.
02:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:03 VanessaE well I mean your maps load okay, nothing appears broken other than unknown nodes, etc.
02:03 OldCoder Prestotron562, Hi
02:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:03 OldCoder VanessaE, are your plants etc. ready to use? Shall I update all of them?
02:04 VanessaE yes, they're ready for general use
02:04 VanessaE update plantlife modpack and also get the latest moretrees
02:04 OldCoder k
02:04 OldCoder This will take weeks I think
02:04 VanessaE naw
02:04 OldCoder need to test everything
02:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:04 OldCoder Seriously life is tricky over here
02:05 VanessaE download my game pack and take what you need from there.
02:05 * kaeza pokes back
02:05 kaeza hai
02:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:06 [0gb_us] Hello!
02:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:06 VanessaE kaeza: [09-21 22:03] <[0gb_us]> <zat> user wrote "nil" to sign at (887,4,-587)
02:06 VanessaE [09-21 22:03] <[0gb_us]> <zat> 22:53:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /home/zat/.minetest/mods/ho​medecor/signs_lib.lua:322: bad argument #1 to 'len' (string expected, got nil)
02:07 VanessaE (anyone else wanna add another level of indirection? ;) )
02:07 zat I just cannot reproduce the issue
02:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:07 zat I asked the user and neither he can
02:07 kaeza VanessaE, huh
02:07 zat probably the high cpu usage made the interpreter mess up somehow?
02:07 zat just guessing
02:09 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/homedec​or/blame/master/signs_lib.lua#L320
02:09 kaeza err https://github.com/VanessaE/homedec​or/blame/master/signs_lib.lua#L322
02:09 VanessaE heh, I didn't actually write that code :)
02:09 [0gb_us] I give up. I guess I don't get to watch Haven after all.
02:09 VanessaE that's probably from the original signs code, just renamed the function
02:10 kaeza VanessaE, do you have a full backtrace?
02:10 OldCoder VanessaE, are conifers still relevant?
02:10 OldCoder And are flowers subsumed into plantlife?
02:11 [0gb_us] Connifers are in moretrees, flowers are in minetest_game.
02:11 OldCoder So I can drop both
02:12 OldCoder VanessaE, homedecor?
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02:12 VanessaE kaeza: nope, ask zat :)
02:12 OldCoder and junglegrass?
02:12 [0gb_us] Right, if you are updating minetest_game and moretrees.
02:12 VanessaE OldCoder: all of my mods are up-to-date; junglegrass is part of plantlife modpack
02:12 VanessaE flowers has been merged into minetest_game.  you don't need the separate mod from my old pack anympore
02:12 [0gb_us] Junglegrass generates if you set a flag in the world's meta.
02:12 VanessaE anymore*
02:12 OldCoder So I drop junglegrass. What about homedecor? keep it? 0gb_us ty
02:13 [0gb_us] Oops, wrong jungle grass. My bad.
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02:13 [0gb_us] If Vanessa still has junglegrass, you might want to keep it.
02:13 OldCoder It is in her plantlife
02:13 OldCoder I do not need the original mod then
02:13 zat *** Message to kaeza throttled due to flooding ??????????
02:14 [0gb_us] Oh, yeah, I think it's in plantlife.
02:14 OldCoder What of homedecor and unifieddyes?
02:14 kaeza zat, consider using pastebin next time :)
02:14 [0gb_us] Homedecore is still in use, I don't know about unified dyes.
02:14 [0gb_us] *Homedecor
02:14 OldCoder VanessaE, ?
02:16 zat kaeza: I open a browser and my computer dies!
02:16 VanessaE both
02:16 OldCoder t y
02:17 [0gb_us] What browser, what operating system?
02:17 zat Firefox, Archlinux
02:17 zat :)
02:18 OldCoder Sapier made an OldCoder Special Animals pack... can I just use his current one now and which should I remove?
02:18 OldCoder Which animals that is
02:18 OldCoder For lower CPU thrashing and crashing
02:18 OldCoder Hmm... need to delete the ones that involve fire
02:19 OldCoder Anybody have the Animals link?
02:20 [0gb_us] Hmm. I can't see anything on the web to help with the computer dying ... Sorry, I'm not a techie.
02:21 OldCoder https://github.com/sapier/anim​als_modpack/archive/master.zip
02:21 OldCoder I will use that. Delete which animals?
02:23 kaeza slimes
02:23 kaeza last time I used they bugged like hell
02:24 kaeza dunno if sapier already fixed those bugs
02:24 OldCoder k
02:24 OldCoder What about mobf_settings? And BTW what is changed in your IRC mod settings? If anything
02:25 kaeza you'd just need to change the channel
02:25 kaeza optionally the nick and auth stuff
02:26 kaeza put "irc.channel = ##channel-here" in minetest.conf
02:27 OldCoder Same as before? Or different?
02:27 OldCoder Do I need to change any config files?
02:27 kaeza just minetest.conf
02:27 OldCoder I mean relative to before; what changes in minetest.conf?
02:27 kaeza clone the repo and run "./quick-install.sh <yourmodsdirhere>"
02:28 * OldCoder does not do quick-installs
02:28 OldCoder I mean relative to before; what changes in minetest.conf?
02:28 kaeza just "irc.channel = ##channel-here"
02:28 OldCoder And does anybody know if mobf_settings must still be deleted?
02:28 kaeza in minetest.conf
02:28 OldCoder kaeza, Is that new?
02:28 kaeza OldCoder, [0gb_us] patched it to read config from minetest.conf
02:28 OldCoder kaeza, also is your computer mod still valid?
02:29 OldCoder ls
02:29 OldCoder Oops
02:29 OldCoder k
02:29 OldCoder kaeza, also is your computer mod still valid?
02:29 kaeza yep
02:29 OldCoder k
02:29 OldCoder kaeza, git link for computer mod pls?
02:29 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer
02:30 OldCoder kaeza, also one more question... is the old channel setting in the config file still supported or minetest.conf only?
02:30 kaeza or: git clone https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer.git; mv minetest-computer computer
02:30 OldCoder Either? Which one?
02:31 kaeza OldCoder, you can still modify config.lua if you don't want to mess with the .conf
02:31 OldCoder Fine
02:31 OldCoder Either computer link?
02:31 kaeza yep
02:31 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minete​st-computer/archive/master.zip
02:31 * OldCoder sighs as he has about 100 mods to update and check
02:31 OldCoder Yes
02:32 xiong Are we sure these detector tubes actually work?
02:32 OldCoder So some github projects are archive/master.zip and others are zipball/master ?
02:32 VanessaE they do.
02:32 VanessaE I tested them thoroughly.
02:33 kaeza OldCoder, I think archive/master.zip is the old link
02:33 OldCoder Both work?
02:33 * kaeza checks
02:34 * Prestotron562 hasn't had Linux screw him over once, as Windows has several times.
02:34 OldCoder kaeza, also; you still use cmake? same procedure as before?
02:34 kaeza yes
02:34 * Prestotron562 hates cmake
02:35 kaeza OldCoder, just use: ./quick-install.sh .
02:35 OldCoder To each their own
02:35 OldCoder NO
02:35 OldCoder :-)
02:35 kaeza It will do all the steps for you
02:36 kaeza cmake .; make pack_mod; mv irc <yourmodsdirhere>/
02:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:37 OldCoder -e 's/mt_irc.channel =.*/mt_irc.channel = "##mtchannelhere";/' \
02:37 OldCoder -e 's/mt_irc.debug =.*/mt_irc.debug = false;/' \
02:37 OldCoder -e 's/mt_irc.auto_join =.*/mt_irc.auto_join = true;/' \
02:37 OldCoder -e 's/mt_irc.auto_connect =.*/mt_irc.auto_connect = true;/' \
02:37 OldCoder kaeza, all of that is still valid?
02:37 OldCoder was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
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02:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:37 kaeza O_O
02:37 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan slow, shadowbot is
02:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:37 OldCoder It is better than last year; seriously
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02:38 Dark_Soul umm i have a question?
02:38 OldCoder Yes go on
02:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:38 kaeza OldCoder, auto{connect|join} are true by default now
02:38 Dark_Soul how rare is a gravel biome?
02:38 OldCoder But the settings are valid?
02:38 kaeza almost
02:38 xiong Prestotron562, yes, I position my fingers on home row. I don't rest my fingers there, of course; they hover just at the surface. I touch Dvorak, if you care.=
02:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:39 VanessaE Dark_Soul: rare enough that in a 5000x5000 map, for example, you may only find a couple of them.
02:39 xiong And I got used to a keyboard with a larger 'Enter' key. :(
02:39 VanessaE and they'll be small, say 20 or so nodes across
02:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:39 kaeza OldCoder, use s/config\.debug =.*/config.debug = false/
02:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:39 xiong So did I. IBM Selectric in those days.
02:39 OldCoder kaeza, k
02:39 kaeza (instead of mt_irc\.debug, etc
02:39 kaeza )
02:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:39 Dark_Soul well i have a player on my server who wound a gravel biome that is at least 250x250
02:39 VanessaE OldCoder: when you update moretrees, please double-check your moretrees_settings.txt  in each of your worlds that uses it, make sure you haven't forgotten a setting (it's been updated)
02:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:40 VanessaE Dark_Soul: not unheard of, but qutie rare
02:40 VanessaE quite*
02:40 Dark_Soul ok i thought so i was like wow
02:40 OldCoder VanessaE, where is that file located? If I update, the new directory will replace the old
02:40 xiong Completely wasted effort, I never practiced, I spent years on a keyboard without touching. Then I learned to touch Qwerty, another wasted effort... and years later, retrained to Dvorak. I'll never look back.
02:40 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:40 VanessaE OldCoder: in your world folder.
02:40 xiong IBM was not the first computer, regardless of how you define 'computer'.
02:40 Dark_Soul this is the first time i have ever seen it
02:40 OldCoder kaeza, config.debug in which file? VanessaE what setting must I do what to?
02:40 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:41 kaeza OldCoder, config.lua
02:41 Dark_Soul thats guys i was making sure something wasnt wrong with my game :)
02:41 Dark_Soul *thanks
02:41 xiong I'm not going to fight about this. I know too much useless trivia to be trotting it out at random.
02:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:41 OldCoder -e 's/config.debug =.*/config.debug = false;/' \
02:41 OldCoder -e 's/mt_irc.debug =.*/mt_irc.debug = false;/' \
02:41 OldCoder So the first is new and the second old kaeza ?
02:41 kaeza first
02:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:41 OldCoder first is new? second worked before? kaeza
02:42 kaeza OldCoder, first
02:42 kaeza yes
02:42 OldCoder Very well
02:42 VanessaE OldCoder: just compare your moretrees_settings.txt against mods/moretrees/default_settings.txt
02:42 VanessaE see if there's anything you need to change
02:42 VanessaE most likely, there won't be
02:42 OldCoder Can you provide an example VanessaE ?
02:43 VanessaE for example, moretrees.spawn_saplings = true (or false)
02:43 OldCoder How would they get out of sync?
02:43 VanessaE because that file is only created once, it is never modified by moretrees.
02:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:43 VanessaE but the defaults can change over time, and have a couple of times
02:43 OldCoder VanessaE, shall I simply delete the old files?
02:44 VanessaE whatever isn't in moretrees_settings.txt is read from default_settings.txt
02:44 VanessaE so if you wanna just delete them, you can
02:44 OldCoder Fine
02:44 OldCoder Reviewing
02:44 VanessaE moretrees will rebuild them
02:44 VanessaE same for pipeworks
02:44 [0gb_us] Prestotron562, and Linux stole GNU.
02:44 * Prestotron562 is 50% done with builtin animals with smart AI
02:44 OldCoder VanessaE, It is fine; no such files are present
02:44 Dark_Soul VanessaE
02:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:44 VanessaE Dark_Soul: yes?
02:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:45 [0gb_us] Linux is a kernel only. GNU is the rest of the system.
02:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:45 Dark_Soul with moretrees how do you lower the forest size??? i only have rubber trees rigth now for technic
02:45 [0gb_us] I did. Infiniminer.
02:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:45 sdzen what are those?
02:46 VanessaE Dark_Soul: you change the values in biome_defs.lua
02:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:46 Dark_Soul ok
02:46 sdzen I know for one that the universe is a blatant rip off of the last one
02:46 Dark_Soul thanks
02:46 VanessaE Dark_Soul: you might try increasing the rarity and decreasing the max_count values
02:46 VanessaE that'll generally result in fewer trees
02:46 Dark_Soul ok
02:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:46 VanessaE but moretrees does not attempt to change how the mapgen places the default trees unless you explicitly configure it and your game to do so.
02:47 Prestotron562 [deleted]
02:49 xiong I think there are problems with that detector pipe. Stays on when nothing is passing through it. Not slow, stays stuck on for good.
02:51 OldCoder Just use the latest Technic? It won't break everything?
02:52 xiong Eh, OldCoder?
02:52 xiong Technic doesn't have much logic to it, let alone pipes.
02:52 xiong They cover different areas: mesecons, technic, pipeworks.
02:53 VanessaE technic has changed a lot, but it's stable
02:54 VanessaE it depends on mesecons and pipeworks anyway
02:55 OldCoder xiong, sorry different thread
02:55 OldCoder Not an answer for you
02:56 OldCoder VanessaE, and somebody said recently... just try latest mesecons
02:56 OldCoder VanessaE, but aren't the old technic and mesecons worlds likely to break?
02:57 VanessaE old technic worlds will break in the sense that users will need to add one more item to each of their circuits (a switching station)
02:57 VanessaE but otherwise, no
02:57 VanessaE without the switching station, technic circuits just don't work is all
02:57 VanessaE mesecons works the same as it ever did.
02:58 VanessaE nothing should be different there
02:59 xiong Well, what about that detector tube? I tried pulling it down with an unattached AND gate; does not work. The detector tube really is stuck on.
02:59 VanessaE that's just weird
02:59 VanessaE it shouldn't do that :P
03:00 VanessaE unless you've got a hidden entity/object stuck in the tube
03:00 xiong No, should not.
03:00 VanessaE you've tried to dig up and re-place the tube?
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03:01 xiong Yes. That clears the fault.
03:01 OldCoder frogcrush, perhaps your nick does not mean frogs being compressed... is it about a frog-flavored cola?
03:01 VanessaE any idea of the conditions that are causing it to get stuck?
03:02 * OldCoder likes little hoppy frogs
03:02 VanessaE OldCoder: I assumed a crush, as in a love interest :)
03:02 xiong I've got a loop from destination to source chest with a sand tube sucking up overage and the detector in the loop. Works fine for about ten cycles, then gets stuck on.
03:02 OldCoder Heh!
03:03 VanessaE xiong: I'll yell at nore when I see him next, that's his code
03:04 xiong I suspect something to do with the sand tube sucking up two at once. When this happens, I see both go away but only one going down the return tube. However, none are lost in the end.
03:04 sdzen this now brings me back to the fascinating subject of how to realistically fuck a fish while not killing it.
03:04 VanessaE they're actually both there, they're just so close together that they look like a sigle piece
03:04 VanessaE single*
03:04 VanessaE it was really confusing at first :)
03:05 sdzen I actually wrote out a few theories, even though I dont live in a state that outlaws this, I do not want to attempt it.
03:08 xiong Yes, that's what I think, VanessaE. Both entities are superimposed. Now when I put exactly 1 too many items into the loop, the detector does not get stuck on.
03:08 xiong It will sometimes be very late turning off but I don't know how much of that to chalk up to server "lag".
03:10 xiong No, scratch that. The tube got stuck on, I swiped the single extra item and now it's still stuck. The extra was clearing the fault as it went around again.
03:10 OldCoder Does anybody have a link for RealBadAngel snow mod?
03:10 VanessaE ok, that's a map loader issue
03:10 OldCoder Or Stairs Plus?
03:11 VanessaE sometimes the client "misses" map events.
03:11 VanessaE OldCoder: stairsplus is part of moreblocks now.
03:11 VanessaE and I didn't RBA had a snow mod
03:11 OldCoder He did. And whose moreblocks should I use?
03:11 xiong I'm really tempted to blame the mesecons red block I'm using as an indicator.
03:11 VanessaE SPLizard does, https://github.com/Splizard/minetest-mod-snow/
03:12 VanessaE moreblocks, use calinou's upstream from https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks
03:12 OldCoder VanessaE, goal is not to break my worlds. T y
03:12 VanessaE (don't use the old "calinou_mods" repo, it's deprecated)
03:12 OldCoder So I drop veidemaster's version of moreblocks?
03:12 OldCoder And may I still use Calinou maptools and moreores?
03:13 VanessaE yes to all
03:13 VanessaE get moreores from https://github.com/Calinou/moreores
03:14 VanessaE and maptools from https://github.com/Calinou/maptools
03:14 OldCoder k t y
03:14 VanessaE np
03:15 xiong Okay, I tried the mesecons red block, a regular mesecons lamp, and a bobblocks. All indicate stuck on.
03:16 VanessaE you mean separately from the detector tube?
03:17 xiong I meant connected. But stop the press. I just took out the detector and the red block; the lamp is still on. I think BR's "lag" may just be so bad it's affecting good code.
03:19 OldCoder In the past I was told to revert this mesecons change: git reset 5921f6d46caa18310435046a22d5aa0f529998f0 Is this no longer needed?
03:19 xiong Still, I smell a floating line here. There are, of course, three states to any bit: 1, 0, and invalid. You get that in a conventional digital circuit when you fail to tie off an unused input: it floats, with unpredictable results.
03:19 VanessaE OldCoder: are there any towns/maps among your nexus that are seeing no activity anymore?  If they're small enough, I'd like to combine them into my Survival map
03:20 OldCoder VanessaE, anything like this is negotiable ... I wish to combine worlds too
03:20 xiong I don't know how mesecons conceives of 'off' as distinct from 'unconnected'.
03:20 OldCoder But let me get and up running again... this may take weeks VanessaE
03:20 VanessaE OldCoder: that revert no longer applies.
03:21 OldCoder Thank you VanessaE. Shall I use his jumping and timber?
03:21 VanessaE I don't know about timber, but I have jumping installed.
03:21 VanessaE xiong: normally, mesecons interprets floating as logic low
03:22 xiong Yah, probably should. I disconnected everything from the lamp and it remained on.
03:22 VanessaE so if you yank a wire and the effector remains "on", that's not mesecons doing it :)
03:22 xiong I'm not blaming the detector tube anymore.
03:22 xiong That *is* mesecons; it's a mesecons lamp.
03:22 VanessaE it's bad lag or more likely, packet loss
03:22 xiong It was a mesecons red block before.
03:23 VanessaE recall that minetest uses UDP for its network stack, which is not too tolerant of lost packets
03:23 xiong Okay, but regardless of how many times I fail to receive the correct state from the server, eventually it should send it to me, yes?
03:23 VanessaE so what's happening, I think, is you're occasionally missing the mapblock update event that turns those objects 'off'
03:23 VanessaE I would think so, but I'm not sure
03:23 xiong Hm.
03:23 VanessaE could be the server screwing up too, but it's just impossible for me to guess any better than that :)
03:24 xiong So I can't trust any indicator to tell me the true state of a mesecon line. That's... unhealthy.
03:25 OldCoder VanessaE, can I assume little progress on the Ambience slow download network problem?
03:25 xiong Due to lighting conditions, it's not a slam dunk to say that such-and-such a line is steady on or off. You can see the mesecon itself blinking when it changes state.
03:25 VanessaE OldCoder: actually... um, kahrl are you awake?  Can you explain http_fetch to him?
03:25 kahrl there is a reliability layer quite similar to TCP
03:25 VanessaE yay!
03:25 kahrl heh
03:25 OldCoder I have the curl mode yes
03:25 OldCoder But clients don't necessarily support i
03:25 OldCoder But clients don't necessarily support it *
03:25 kahrl so if the server sends mapblock data it should arrive (eventually)
03:26 OldCoder kahrl, is this about the curl thing?
03:26 kahrl no, mesecons
03:27 kahrl about httpfetch, it doesn't change anything at all if you compile without curl
03:29 OldCoder kahrl, this is new after February? What do I need to do?
03:30 kahrl hm?
03:31 OldCoder What do I need to do?
03:31 kahrl well it's currently just an experimental branch in my repo
03:31 * OldCoder is fine with that
03:31 kahrl what changes is that files on remote media servers are now named by sha1
03:32 OldCoder It fixes the really slow downloads?
03:32 kahrl and there is an index file for them
03:32 OldCoder Does it fix the Ambience slow downloads?
03:32 kahrl it makes HTTP downloads faster, adds support for multiple HTTP servers, makes it possible to set up a central minetest cdn
03:33 OldCoder Does it fix the Ambience slow downloads?
03:33 OldCoder Excuse repetition but I am not clear
03:33 kahrl assuming you mean the slow download when compiling without curl, no
03:33 OldCoder I am referring to the fact that it can take an hour to get into MT
03:33 OldCoder Thank you
03:33 OldCoder VanessaE, Jeija timber link is broken; do I use Deivan's ? You posted in that thread
03:34 VanessaE you could try it I guess
03:34 OldCoder VanessaE, If I should use Jeija
03:34 OldCoder VanessaE, If I should use Jeija's where is it? Link in thread is broken
03:34 VanessaE I don't see a repository for it in Jeija's list
03:34 OldCoder Server Error (500)
03:34 OldCoder Unfortunately, we've experienced an error. It has been reported to the administrators and should be fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience.
03:34 VanessaE so I guess his is dead
03:34 * OldCoder dislikes broken links
03:35 OldCoder I have an old copy; are you using the old version?
03:35 VanessaE I don't have timber.
03:36 Dark_Soul VanessaE do you know any spawn mods or can you help me start moding on my own idk how i would love to tho
03:37 VanessaE Dark_Soul: the only such mod I've used is one someone helped me write
03:37 OldCoder VanessaE, t y
03:37 VanessaE and it just teleports the player to a fixed location
03:37 Dark_Soul o ok well could you tell me what you use to write mods?
03:37 VanessaE Dark_Soul:   make a new mod, put this into init.lua:   http://pastebin.com/5zwKUTDw
03:37 VanessaE I use a text editor.
03:37 VanessaE (gedit)
03:38 Dark_Soul ok hold on
03:39 kahrl why not register_chatcommand?
03:39 VanessaE I didn't write the mod :)
03:39 VanessaE in fact I don't remember who did
03:40 Dark_Soul ok i pasted it in notepad and saved it now what
03:40 VanessaE did you save it as init.lua  ?
03:40 Dark_Soul yes
03:41 VanessaE make a folder called "spawn"
03:41 Dark_Soul ok
03:41 VanessaE put the init.lua in there
03:41 VanessaE copy the result to your minetest mods folder
03:41 Dark_Soul ok
03:41 VanessaE edit the init.lua to change the coordinates on line 7 to go where you actually want
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03:41 Dark_Soul ok
03:41 Dark_Soul was kicked by ShadowBot: Repetition flood detected.
03:41 xiong kahrl, I'm now assuming BR's server is just messing everything up. I can't localize the issue and it keeps moving around.
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03:42 Dark_Soul umm how is typing ok flooding?
03:43 * xiong eats
03:43 kahrl you typed ok three times... ShadowBot didn't like that
03:44 Dark_Soul i typed it once
03:44 Dark_Soul unless my computer did that
03:45 kahrl I see 3
03:45 VanessaE you typed it three times on three separate answers
03:45 VanessaE ShadowBot just got stupid :)
03:45 Dark_Soul o ok lol
03:45 OldCoder Who did the torch lantern mod and where is it?
03:45 VanessaE ShadowBot: stfu
03:45 Dark_Soul XD
03:45 ShadowBot VanessaE: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
03:45 VanessaE lol
03:46 Dark_Soul wow
03:47 * VanessaE grumbles...  I'll show YOU who has and doesn't have op capability :D
03:47 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan Who am I?
03:47 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan Mr. Thompson is a part of everything. He is in the sky and sea. He is in the dreams of children at night. He is all that there is, forever.
03:47 VanessaE you are Peacock alias Mauvebic alias whatever the hell else you go by :)
03:48 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, may I revive your world?
03:48 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan didn't know you still ran it :P
03:48 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan go ahead but the modpack is a little slow
03:48 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, I am updating
03:48 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, do you have an updated modpack?
03:48 OldCoder My server is fast enough to handle it
03:48 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan not for that map :( would break everything
03:48 VanessaE Khaaaaaaaaaaaan:  about your terrain "gun"....  let's talk about that later, I may need it :)
03:48 Dark_Soul VanessaE it says this: http://pastebin.com/tvbSFL8T
03:49 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, so will mt 0.4.7 support your world?
03:49 VanessaE Dark_Soul: then you didn't put init.lua in there :)
03:49 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan it should still run i think
03:49 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, But you said the mods won't work
03:49 Dark_Soul yes i did its not a aempty folder
03:49 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan as for terrain guns, i though the mapgen did passable mountains now?
03:49 VanessaE Dark_Soul: check your spelling
03:49 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan (passable as in ok, not physically passable lol)
03:49 OldCoder I think I better convert just one world at a time
03:50 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan OC no the mods work, but its just slow, dont know how slow on 0.4.7
03:50 Dark_Soul o wait it put .txt on the end... and cursed computer
03:50 VanessaE Khaaaaaaaaaaaan: it does, but I'm working on joining two maps, so I'll need a way to smooth out the mismatched mapblocks
03:50 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, can you give me an updated world and modpack?
03:50 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan i lost that map and modpack when i accidentally wiped the wrong partition
03:51 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, I can give you the world back
03:51 OldCoder And the old modpack; wish them and will you tidy them up?
03:51 * OldCoder does not want the world to die
03:52 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan would if i had the time, between work and maintaining my current server - even then very little uptime lately
03:52 OldCoder You cannot save your world?
03:52 Dark_Soul C:\Minetest\bin\..\mods\spawn\init.lua:20: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 1) near '<eof>' sorry but this one was small but what is it telling me i copied it like you told me to
03:53 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan like i said, short on time :/ and with that modpack, id probably end up yanking 2/3's of it out lol
03:53 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, that is fine
03:53 OldCoder Would simplify things
03:53 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan alot of the mod features aren't really needed just to showoff the map
03:53 Dark_Soul wait i think i see it
03:53 OldCoder Sounds good to me Khaaaaaaaaaaaan
03:53 OldCoder Shall we proceed?
03:53 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan im supposed to say that, im khan :P
03:54 OldCoder As you wish
03:54 OldCoder Proceed to say proceed
03:54 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan Shall we proceed?
03:54 OldCoder Preparing download
03:54 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan you gonna post the map and modpack somewhere on the internets?
03:54 OldCoder Allow a brief delay
03:54 OldCoder Right now yes
03:55 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, Hmm... do you have LevelDB? I suppose I must export this
03:56 Dark_Soul ok i cant find the problem with it VanessaE
03:57 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan i haven't updated my MT in weeks :/ waiting for a polished 0.4.8
03:57 VanessaE Dark_Soul: you must have typed 'init.lua' wrong
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03:57 Dark_Soul no look above it gave me a different error code
03:57 * VanessaE looks up
03:58 VanessaE oh, you probably didn't copy the whole text I gave you
03:58 Dark_Soul i believe i did hold on
03:58 Dark_Soul can you give it to me agian
03:58 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, I am attempting to export your world to sqlite32
03:58 OldCoder ** sqlite3
03:58 OldCoder If this copy doesn't work I can move back to backup copies
03:58 Dark_Soul nvm i got it
03:59 Dark_Soul found it im missing a end)
03:59 OldCoder About 8% done; server is fast
03:59 OldCoder Allow probably 10 minutes or so
04:00 OldCoder I think I can only switch over with help of world maintainers
04:00 Dark_Soul omg thanks VanessaE its working
04:00 VanessaE no prob
04:00 VanessaE enjoy :)
04:00 * OldCoder is going to need help
04:00 OldCoder 20% done
04:01 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, hang on; I wish to do this
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04:01 Dark_Soul now wat was you coding thing you use?
04:02 VanessaE I just use a text editor
04:02 OldCoder GNU Screen is good too
04:02 thefamilygrog66 geany?
04:02 VanessaE notepad is enough to small mods
04:02 VanessaE I use gedit
04:02 OldCoder Joe
04:02 kaeza butterflies!
04:02 OldCoder and ex
04:02 kaeza too soon?
04:02 VanessaE enough for*
04:03 Dark_Soul ok i will google it here in min
04:03 OldCoder kaeza, will you help me migrate a world? How about Octuteam?
04:03 OldCoder s/migrate/update/
04:03 kaeza OldCoder, sure
04:03 OldCoder But Mauvebic World first... doing it RIGHT NOW
04:03 OldCoder 33% back to sqlite3 for him
04:04 OldCoder Does anybody have an official link for Zeg9 mods they are great and can't live without them
04:04 OldCoder We need places protect skins
04:05 OldCoder and his craft_guide
04:06 thefamilygrog66 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LssEe_xx3eI
04:08 thefamilygrog66 Has anyone here played around with raspberry pi?
04:08 VanessaE not I, but I think I remember someone compiled MT server to run on it didn't they?
04:09 kaeza sfan5?
04:09 Dark_Soul hey will notepad ++ work VanessaE cuasei already have that?
04:09 kaeza he's the one that likes to compile MT on oddball systems :P
04:09 VanessaE should be fine
04:09 Dark_Soul ok
04:10 thefamilygrog66 cool - I like the idea of a mame machine using one
04:10 kaeza thefamilygrog66, google SNES Pi :3
04:10 kaeza MAME on a Pi would be certainly awesomesauce
04:12 Dark_Soul hmm i want to start with a simple mod fro practice got any easy mods VanessaE?
04:13 Dark_Soul is a safe landing node a easy one?
04:13 thefamilygrog66 kaeza, looks fun. I dig emulators
04:13 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, world is converted. Are you still here?
04:14 thefamilygrog66 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!
04:17 OldCoder Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, asleep?
04:19 kahrl Dark_Soul: probably not
04:19 kahrl most of the collision physics are hardcoded in the client
04:19 Dark_Soul ok
04:19 OldCoder I guess he is asleep. kaeza you still up?
04:19 kaeza yup
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04:20 OldCoder Shall we convert a world? What do you know of Skyblock? Or pick one of my worlds
04:20 OldCoder Xiphos is very good
04:20 kahrl Dark_Soul: although I guess you could use tricks with invisible ladders or liquids
04:20 OldCoder Shall we try that one?
04:20 AWTom how do I connect to a freenode server with a real irc cllient? I've been disconnected without knowing it for hours
04:20 Dark_Soul maby
04:20 OldCoder AWTom, can you be more specific?
04:20 thefamilygrog66 kaeza, this:http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/view​topic.php?f=78&amp;t=6761&amp;start=50
04:21 AWTom how do I connect to freenode without the webchat browser-based software?
04:21 VanessaE use an IRC client instead
04:21 VanessaE hexchat, xchat, andchat, etc.
04:21 OldCoder AWTom, simple; use a real client such as http://hexchat.org/
04:21 kahrl telnet irc.freenode.net 6697
04:21 VanessaE kahrl: evil :)
04:21 kaeza lol ^
04:21 OldCoder kahrl approach is a bit difficult
04:22 OldCoder Try
04:22 OldCoder http://hexchat.org/
04:22 OldCoder kaeza, shall we try Xiphos? Or pick a world
04:22 kaeza OldCoder, any one
04:22 OldCoder Xiphos then
04:22 OldCoder Hold on
04:22 kaeza just PM for details
04:22 OldCoder Restarting the 0.4.4 copies
04:22 OldCoder Very well
04:23 AWTom http://www.alge.no/projects/scripts/bairc-1.3.bash this is interesting
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04:36 AWTom wb
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04:38 xiong I don't see how the mesecons Lua controller can be much useful with only four pins. Am I missing something obvious?
04:38 AWTom Saving files, preparing for OS change
04:42 AWTom Does anyone know why it takes longer to check a password when it's wrong than when it's right?
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04:44 AWTom When I sudo something, and I type the password incorrectly, it takes much longer to return than it does when the password is correct.
04:44 AWTom same with just about any other time I use my password
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04:45 AWTom I haven't tried multiplayer Minetest, actually
04:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:45 AWTom echo a die line?
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04:46 AWTom it takes at least 2-3 seconds to return from a wrong password, but it returns instantly from a correct password
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04:47 AWTom ???
04:47 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:47 AWTom saying that it's wrong takes 2-3 seconds?
04:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:48 AWTom Lubuntu
04:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:48 AWTom Ubuntu with different pre-installed software
04:48 AWTom including LXDE
04:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
04:49 AWTom I'm sorry, how do I check?
04:49 AWTom 13.04
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04:50 AWTom uh?
04:50 AWTom I thought that tested network speed
04:51 AWTom you're scaring me now
04:51 AWTom http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2983413964
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04:51 AWTom are you drunk?
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04:52 AWTom is anyone else reading this?
04:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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04:53 AWTom you already have my IP
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04:53 AWTom * is crying
04:54 * AWTom is crying
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05:01 kaeza lel
05:06 * Prestotron562 is 80% done with RPG mode
05:06 nore sfan5, I (finally) fixed those caves
05:06 nore hi all, btw
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05:07 AWTom hello
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05:28 [0gb_us] Nope. No one.
05:28 VanessaE *crickets*
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05:28 nore Anybody not here?
05:29 VanessaE heh
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05:29 nore they have to say it themselves ;)
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05:30 [0gb_us] Hmm. My chat client is glitching up ... New messages are invisible until I select them ...
05:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:30 nore [0gb_us], which one do you use?
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05:31 [0gb_us] I'm editing images, I can't restart the computer without losing my work.
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05:31 [0gb_us] My client is XChat on Trisquel.
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05:31 nore did you try settings/colors?
05:31 [0gb_us] I can't save mid-image without losing the ability to undo ...
05:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:32 [0gb_us] Well, I can save, but not close GIMP.
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05:32 [0gb_us] I can't finish quick, or they won't come out well. It's bad enough that I suck at drawing without rushing.
05:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:32 nore [0gb_us], what do you have in settings/colors?
05:32 nore are those normal colors?
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05:33 VanessaE no idea
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05:33 [0gb_us] Once I select a message, it becomes permanently visible, even after it is no longer selected. I don't think a color setting it to blame.
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05:35 us_0gb Adobe is a corporation, not an application. And I don't know Flash's package name, I don't use Flash.
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05:35 us_0gb I use Gnash.
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05:36 us_0gb It works on YouTube, but it doesn't work on a lot of other things.
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05:37 us_0gb Probably "sudo apt-get install gnash".
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05:38 us_0gb Gnash is free.
05:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:38 us_0gb Flash is proprietary. I mean free as in freedom, not price.
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05:39 us_0gb I'm no fan of Autonomous, I barely know who they are.
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05:40 us_0gb Oops, spell check. I didn't pay attention.
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05:41 us_0gb I'm with the Free Software Foundation. I have no part in Anonymous.
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05:42 us_0gb I don't support active attacks on others. I'm no fan.
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05:43 us_0gb I'm not against them. I don't know enough about them to be against them, but I'm certainly not for them. I hate Microsoft, but if you attack Microsoft, I'm not on your side.
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05:44 us_0gb I want to know, sure. And cracking has it's place. But I choose to support more peaceful methods.
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05:46 us_0gb It's not that I'd rather THEM use a peaceful method. Sometimes force is needed. But I'm not going to become a fan of those who do what needs to be done and use force, assuming they are using force correctly.
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05:47 us_0gb 22:47, here.
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05:49 us_0gb Above 12 is PM. 13 is 1 PM, et cetera.
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05:49 us_0gb Yes.
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05:50 us_0gb What do you mean how?
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05:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:50 us_0gb The Internet is world-wide!
05:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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05:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:50 us_0gb No, that's PilzAdam that lives in Germany, not me.
05:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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05:51 us_0gb The US is dumb in many ways, yes.
05:51 us_0gb I forget where he lives, but I don't think it's Germany.
05:51 kahrl Finland
05:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:52 us_0gb Yeah, that was it.
05:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:52 VanessaE "we" did not deserve it.
05:52 us_0gb I don't think anyone deserves terrorism.
05:52 VanessaE our *government* deserved it.
05:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:53 VanessaE we elect the government, but then they turn around and just ignore what the people want
05:53 VanessaE so the government is solely to blame
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05:54 us_0gb He's A problem, just not THE problem.
05:54 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:55 us_0gb That doesn't make him a great guy.
05:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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05:56 us_0gb I like some of the things he's accomplished, but for the most part, I'm not in support of him.
05:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:57 kahrl I think Bush Jr. was better than Obama
05:57 us_0gb Hmm. Yeah, we have very  ... fluid conversations here.
05:57 kahrl at least he was so stupid it was sometimes funny
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05:58 us_0gb Okay, cool.
05:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
05:58 us_0gb I probably won't be here, I'll be at work.
05:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:00 us_0gb I work a stupid pizza job. I hate it, but it pays for my schooling.
06:00 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:00 us_0gb Great!
06:00 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:01 us_0gb $5.50 USD? You said you are in the states? Isn't that illegal?
06:01 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:01 kahrl isn't child labor illegal?
06:01 us_0gb Age? Is minimum wage based on age?
06:01 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:01 kaeza hello 17!
06:01 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:02 us_0gb I was unaware minors were paid less.
06:02 kaeza english is weird
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06:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:03 us_0gb Older than recored history.
06:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:04 kaeza Prestotron562, I didn't think anything :I
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06:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:05 kaeza I was just poking fun at the fact that in english, you use the same phrase to say "I am <name>" and "I am <age>"
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06:06 us_0gb "I am <number>." is technically an invalid phrase. "I am <number> <unit of measure> old." is the actual phrase, but people don't use complete sentences.
06:07 us_0gb Yeah, I need to get up for work too.
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06:08 kaeza us_0gb, still, in spanish we use "yo tengo 18 años" ("I have 18 years")
06:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:08 us_0gb Yeah, I forgot about the having years thing.
06:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:09 kaeza in retrospective, yes, that sounds weirder :I
06:09 VanessaE most languages have phrases that can't be translated correctly to other languages.
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06:10 sfan5 hi everyone
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06:10 VanessaE mornin' sfan
06:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:10 us_0gb Hello!
06:10 sfan5 time to work on the lua mapgen (more specifc: villages)
06:10 VanessaE should be round about 9 or 10am his time
06:10 kaeza VanessaE, ask the germans; apparently they have a single long ass world that is translated to an entire (nonsense) sentece in english :P
06:10 sfan5 Prestotron562: 08:10
06:10 kaeza world?
06:10 VanessaE heh
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06:11 kaeza word!
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06:15 us_0gb Good night. I'm going to bed too.
06:15 VanessaE night
06:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
06:16 nore hi sfan5
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06:32 jin_xi hai guise, im very happy about the lua mapgen stuff... now this makes mt hacking fun and avoids the sometimes tedious discussion about needed changes! Hope you hack on it and there may be many more mods like mg!
06:32 jin_xi \o/
06:34 nore thaks
06:34 nore +n
06:36 VanessaE heh
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07:15 jin_xi https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=111433#p111433 moar ideas?
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07:20 VanessaE no ideas at the moment
07:21 nore the bubble thing is an interesting idea
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07:32 * GNADev|zRokh doesn't think it's Saturday
07:32 GNADev|zRokh hey doods
07:32 GNADev|zRokh i have a question: how many of you use Desura?
07:32 GNADev|zRokh :)
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07:34 GNADev|zRokh ok, im back
07:34 GNADev|zRokh so, how many uses Desura?
07:35 werwerwer_ i used it once
07:35 GNADev|zRokh well, i found an AWESOME RPG game called Flare
07:35 GNADev|zRokh try it
07:35 GNADev|zRokh its TOTALLY addicting :D
07:35 GNADev|zRokh i started yesterday and i already have 2 characters, one is lvl 4 the other is level 6 :D
07:36 GNADev|zRokh and im also decked out :D
07:37 GNADev|zRokh and im downloading Xonotic :D
07:37 GNADev|zRokh werwerwer_: whats your name? do you still use it?
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07:42 nore paramat: did you try the latest version of mg?
07:42 GNADev|zRokh hi nore
07:42 GNADev|zRokh do you use Desura?
07:43 werwerwer_ hehe, pretty oldschool rpg. i really used desura for only one game
07:43 paramat nore, i'm waiting for 0.4.8 stable
07:43 GNADev|zRokh werwerwer_ well its a great game :D
07:43 nore that's gonna be in a long time
07:44 GNADev|zRokh wait... whats mg?
07:44 nore https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues?milestone=1&amp;state=open
07:44 nore mg is lua mapgen
07:44 nore https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263
07:44 GNADev|zRokh oh ok
07:44 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions.
07:45 GNADev|zRokh whats the task of the day?
07:45 GNADev|zRokh i know!
07:45 nore sfan5: does "Lua Mapgen day" exist?
07:45 GNADev|zRokh Task of the day: Play Flare
07:45 GNADev|zRokh :D
07:47 sfan5 nore: dunno :P
07:47 paramat nore, perhaps it is today?
07:49 paramat equinox greetings :D
07:50 jin_xi according to nethack its also full moon
07:54 GNADev|zRokh jin_xi, do you use Desura?
07:54 werwerwer_ GNADev|zRokh why bother with desura? flare is on github
07:55 GNADev|zRokh i dont care!
07:55 werwerwer_ okay!
07:55 GNADev|zRokh when i use Desura i dont have to compile :D
07:55 GNADev|zRokh no, i didnt mean it like that :D
07:56 werwerwer_ compilation is fun :D
07:56 GNADev|zRokh u mad bro?
07:56 GNADev|zRokh Minetest compiles here for half an hour....
07:56 GNADev|zRokh O.O
07:57 GNADev|zRokh oh, and know what, i think i finished the quests :D
07:57 GNADev|zRokh i did the quest from the miner and the quests in the Goblin Warren... DONE :D
08:00 GNADev|zRokh does anyone play Xonotic?
08:00 GNADev|zRokh dat lag :D
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08:02 GNADev|zRokh hi BrandonReese
08:02 GNADev|zRokh :D
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08:13 paramat its 3 days past full moon but probably still affecting me
08:15 kaeza GNADev|zRokh, Flare is also in Ubuntu Software Center :3
08:16 GNADev|zRokh well im not using ubuntu... :/
08:16 GNADev|zRokh im using Trisquel...
08:16 GNADev|zRokh kaeza, do you use Desura?
08:16 kaeza lol trisquel
08:16 kaeza anyway...
08:16 kaeza yes, ocasionally
08:18 GNADev|zRokh whats your username :D
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08:19 * GNADev|zRokh is almost done downloading Xonotic
08:19 kaeza kaeza I think
08:19 kaeza been a while since I last used it
08:20 GNADev|zRokh oh :D
08:22 GNADev|zRokh nope
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08:48 john_minetest Hello everypony
08:56 VanessaE hi
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08:59 hmz hi
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09:30 kaeza what is the command to add the unstable ppa to ubuntu?
09:30 kaeza sudo add-apt-repository ... ?
09:39 sfan5 kaeza: sudo apt-add-repository <link starting with ppa:>
09:40 kaeza sfan5, very helpful
09:40 kaeza sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds ?
09:40 sfan5 yes
09:40 kaeza k, thanks
09:41 kaeza I'm not used to install from PPA; trying to guide a new user :P
09:42 VanessaE ew, using the ppa when you could just compile?  for shame :)
09:42 kaeza I think the same, but the guy is a bit noobish
09:43 VanessaE heh, ok
09:43 kaeza umm... now what's the program name for apt-get install?
09:44 kaeza just minetest?
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09:45 sfan5 minetestc55 IIRC
09:47 kaeza sfan5, thanks! that worked :P
09:47 kaeza (just "minetest" seems to install 0.4.4 O_o)
09:50 sfan5 lol
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09:53 Jordach fuck me sfan5 mg is going through a shitton of development
09:53 Jordach (fuck me is in the expletive)
09:53 sfan5 heh
09:54 Jordach and i just understood how buildings.lua works
09:57 Sokomine what does buildings.lua do?
09:57 sfan5 place buildings in villages
09:57 * Jordach would have preferred the worldedit format
09:57 Jordach drop buildings in /buildings/<house>.we
09:57 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/ri1rN8z.jpg
09:57 nore Jordach: I am rewriting the building placement code
09:58 Jordach the buildings are pretty spaced out, just need some roads; or even merge Sokomine's villages mod
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10:06 * Jordach starts git shell and will be git pulling into his minetest dir
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10:20 Jordach sfan5, stop forcing me to support MG in MC4MT
10:21 Jordach also: your gimping sucks, let me handle this
10:21 Sokomine ah. hm. i prefer place_schematics. the approach in buildings.lua seems to be close to the old villages mod - that did place structures that way as well
10:22 Jordach b-b-but LuaJIT
10:22 Sokomine for more complex buildings, writing them in that format may be a lot of work
10:22 Jordach mhm
10:23 Sokomine place_schematic is really great for houses and such :-)
10:23 Jordach how's the rotation
10:27 Sokomine can be passed as parameter. as can replacement of nodes
10:28 Jordach oh
10:29 Sokomine it is really practical
10:29 Sokomine there may be situations where smaller houses like those on the mg-mapgen-picture are better than large ones
10:29 Jordach merging your villages into mapgen would be a perfected combo (no need for paramat's flatten), as the mapgen can clear space as needed
10:30 Sokomine or perhaps best: have everything in your world :-)
10:30 Sokomine oh? hm. paramat did a lot of work with his mod. i feel guilty for not having finished integrating it yet
10:31 * Jordach throws $5 on the table for NPC players (using player_textures, for textures)
10:31 Sokomine what requirements do you have regarding the npc? mobf can offer them
10:31 Jordach you can earn another $5 by adding name generator, like the one in Red Eclipse
10:31 Sokomine also peaceful_npc
10:31 Jordach (just have them hovering over the npc's head)
10:32 Sokomine ah yes, name generator. that's something on my todo-list
10:32 Sokomine no, not that. just the name generator for me :-)
10:32 Sokomine the hovering would be nice though
10:32 Jordach i was thinking so it seems like a multiplayer server rather than a traditional npc
10:32 Sokomine hm
10:33 Sokomine iirc they show their name on mouseover. but i'm not sure right now
10:33 Jordach (they just make the place just look good, but they need area limits for where the village is designed.(
10:33 Sokomine i'm not at all certain right now if mobf-mobs can have individual names or if each one would require a new mob registered
10:33 Jordach ^ that
10:34 Sokomine right now, they'd just stand around, waiting for players who want to trade
10:34 Jordach what i meant was a entity like on VanessaE's signs that float above the player indicating their name
10:34 Jordach afaik, you could attach it to them
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10:38 Zeg9 Hello!
10:38 Sokomine i remember a mod with a lifebar or something like that. perhaps it could show the mob's name as well
10:38 Sokomine hi zeg
10:40 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ISvnsRbfKA
10:40 VanessaE LOL!
10:40 VanessaE (yes, I've been watching silly floppy music on youtube, but this one takes the cake)
10:42 Jordach oh dear god
10:42 * Jordach likes floppy drive music
10:43 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvFJ​-Yy3HxI&amp;list=PL430B496038B77C0C
10:43 VanessaE this one's good, too
10:44 VanessaE smart idea to use guitar pickups to get the sound off the drives more cleanly
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10:57 johnDC hello, another newbie question  from me - Which class in minetest engine represents mobs or other active objects?
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10:58 kaeza Zeg9, are you still having problems connecting to my server? :S
10:58 Zeg9 yeah
10:58 kaeza that's strange... I haven't added much stuff
10:59 kaeza homedecor is the heaviest mod ATM
11:00 Zeg9 sometimes I can connect, but I only get a few blocks
11:00 VanessaE and homedecor really doesn't have much stuff
11:00 VanessaE (there's, I dunno, 50 items at most?)
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11:02 VanessaE hey dan
11:02 DanDuncombe I have a quick question about aliases. If I alias stone to snow, for example, will it turn stone to snow,or can threy simply be used interchangeably in recipes?
11:02 VanessaE yes but only if stone isn't already defined
11:03 DanDuncombe But which one
11:03 VanessaE (or vice versa, depending on which way you're going)
11:03 VanessaE if you define snow and alias stone to it, both will = snow as long as stone isn't defined somewhere.
11:03 VanessaE for example.
11:03 DanDuncombe I mean, I want to add compatability with a mod I'm doing with moreores, so the ores can be used interchangeably in recipes.
11:03 VanessaE oh
11:03 VanessaE you can't do that.
11:03 VanessaE you have to make separate recipes.
11:03 DanDuncombe Damnit
11:03 DanDuncombe Oh well
11:04 DanDuncombe People will have to add compatabilty to mymod then.
11:05 Jordach if the end result is the name node (eg, your tin and moreores tin, you could alias your tin to moreores tin so it's the same recipe)
11:06 Jordach but then you're just re-inventing the wheel; so it's easier to depend on a already existing mod
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11:08 DanDuncombe But my mod adds far more ores than moreores
11:08 DanDuncombe I think
11:08 VanessaE moreores has three
11:08 VanessaE (silver, tin, mithril)
11:08 DanDuncombe Haha
11:08 VanessaE (the rest have been absorbed into minetest_game)
11:08 DanDuncombe Mine adds:
11:09 DanDuncombe Adamantine,Aluminium, Bismuthinite Cassiterite Galena Garnierite Hematite Limonite Magnetite Malachite Platinum Silver Sphalerite Tetrahedrite Lapis Bauxite Rutile
11:09 VanessaE between technic, moreores, glooptest, and blox mods, there are something like 15 different ores on my server
11:10 DanDuncombe That is 17 ores
11:11 DanDuncombe So, alias of my tin ingot to moreores tin ingot, that will mean moreores' ingot is the final result?Cool if it is
11:11 VanessaE as long as you don't define yours, yes
11:11 VanessaE A != B if both A and B actually exist
11:11 VanessaE the engine will ignore the alias.
11:11 DanDuncombe I was going to add anthracite, brown coal and Bituminous coal,but decided not too
11:11 DanDuncombe Maybe bituminous coal. Ideas?
11:12 DanDuncombe Actually no
11:12 DanDuncombe So, they are completely incompatible? No way of exchanging them without modifying existing mods? Awww.
11:12 DanDuncombe Maybe technic atb least could make some changes
11:13 VanessaE nope.avi
11:13 VanessaE make your mods compatible with what exists, not vice versa :)
11:13 DanDuncombe But I cant
11:13 DanDuncombe You said so
11:13 kaeza random question: what is /m ?
11:14 VanessaE simple:  soft-depend, don't define your nodes/items if others exist.
11:14 kaeza I see a lot of players on my server randomly saying that
11:14 VanessaE no clue, kaeza
11:14 DanDuncombe How can I make them not register if there is moreores?
11:15 VanessaE if minetest.get_modpath("moreores") then  (alias them here)  else  (define them for real here)  end
11:15 VanessaE and add "moreores?" to depends.txt
11:15 VanessaE (with the question mark, no quotes)
11:16 DanDuncombe Also, alias mine to theirs, or theirs to mine?
11:16 VanessaE alias yours to theirs.
11:16 DanDuncombe Ok
11:16 VanessaE minetest.register_alias("yours", "theirs")
11:16 DanDuncombe All of them areregistered in one big table, so how could I make it so they all register?
11:17 DanDuncombe Because some moreores doesn't have
11:17 VanessaE it depends on your code
11:17 VanessaE maybe cache the result of minetest.get_modpath("moreores")
11:18 VanessaE then test the cached result wherever you need to
11:18 VanessaE (that way you aren't executing the get_modpath() function repeatedly.
11:18 Sokomine ask those players, kaeza, and please tell us
11:18 DanDuncombe Never mind
11:19 VanessaE DanDuncombe: take a look at jojoa1997's display_blocks mod
11:19 VanessaE it does that for uranium
11:19 VanessaE (if technic exists, it's aliased, else it's defined)
11:19 kaeza Zeg9, what is /m ? :P
11:21 DanDuncombe Can you do a pull request with a corrected version when it is finished and on github?
11:22 VanessaE not really...I'm all coded out for a while
11:23 DanDuncombe Then the mod will have to be dumped, after I spent 2 days on it
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11:25 DanDuncombe Ah, damnit
11:25 DanDuncombe Can't there be a simple function to say 'I want these two things to be interchangeable'
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11:30 VanessaE sorry, not really
11:30 VanessaE the closest thing would be groups
11:30 VanessaE but that depends on the "other" mod using them too
11:32 DanDuncombe Bah
11:32 DanDuncombe I amgoing to find some way
11:32 DanDuncombe Eventually...
11:33 VanessaE you could redefine the other nodes
11:33 VanessaE like how pipeworks redefines a chest
11:33 DanDuncombe I could I guess
11:34 VanessaE <PilzAdam> that's hacky as hell </PlizAdam>
11:34 VanessaE ;)
11:34 DanDuncombe Plizadam?
11:34 DanDuncombe or Pilzadam
11:35 VanessaE shit
11:35 VanessaE <PilzAdam> that's hacky as hell </PilzAdam>
11:35 VanessaE there :)
11:35 DanDuncombe :)
11:35 DanDuncombe (:)
11:35 DanDuncombe ):(
11:36 Jordach \o/
11:39 DanDuncombe Okay, the repo for my mod is on https://github.com/DanDuncombe/moreores_plus
11:39 kaeza (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:40 VanessaE aw, you coulda called it "even more ores" :)
11:41 DanDuncombe And unlike moreores, it isn't just 'Zinc Ore'
11:42 DanDuncombe Should the ores have not_in_creative_inventory?
11:42 VanessaE the ore blocks?  naw
11:43 VanessaE only use that when you need to make sure the player can't obtain something at all
11:43 VanessaE (short of /giveme)
11:43 DanDuncombe Ok
11:43 VanessaE ore blocks are useful decorations in creative maps
11:43 DanDuncombe Do you like the bismuth texture
11:43 VanessaE I didn't look
11:43 DanDuncombe The ingot I mean
11:43 * VanessaE looks now
11:44 VanessaE seems okay enough
11:44 VanessaE though I don't know if bismuth can form an ingot
11:44 DanDuncombe SO if a mod comes that adds bismuth picks they can be rainbow coloured
11:44 VanessaE *checks wiki*  hm, looks like it can
11:45 kaeza unified_xmoreores_plus?
11:45 DanDuncombe http://www.chenzhoumetal.com/bismuth-ingot.jpg
11:45 VanessaE kaeza: "X"?
11:45 kaeza VanessaE, xpanes, xfences, xdoors :P
11:45 VanessaE oh yes
11:45 DanDuncombe So VanessaE, can you make that fix?
11:46 VanessaE DanDuncombe: ah right.  kinda kills the colorful nature of bismuth crystals though :)
11:46 VanessaE no, not right now
11:46 DanDuncombe I kept the colourful nature to a certin extent
11:46 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bi-crystal.jpg
11:46 VanessaE pretty :)
11:46 DanDuncombe Wait, should I add ingot blocks?
11:46 VanessaE that's up to you
11:46 DanDuncombe Because then bismuth would be like a sort of fake nyan cat tail
11:47 VanessaE but I see no reason not to
11:47 VanessaE the more the merrier :)
11:47 DanDuncombe Could you?
11:47 DanDuncombe Please?
11:47 VanessaE no, not right now
11:47 VanessaE I'm just all coded-out for the time being
11:47 VanessaE ask sokomine why ;)
11:47 DanDuncombe I have to go in about five minutes, and it may be a several day sbefore I can work on this again.
11:49 DanDuncombe Also, I need to add compatability with the titaniummod
11:50 VanessaE just don't define the other metals
11:50 VanessaE if the user wants titanium, let him/her install that mod.
11:50 DanDuncombe No.
11:50 VanessaE ditto for silver/tin/mithril
11:50 DanDuncombe I want to add as many ores as possible
11:51 DanDuncombe The whole idea is that it adds manymore ores
11:51 DanDuncombe Not that it adds a couple that no-one had thought of.
11:51 VanessaE no
11:51 VanessaE trust me
11:51 VanessaE people will complain
11:52 VanessaE we don't need 5 kinds of silver, 3 kinds of uranium, etc
11:52 DanDuncombe This doesn't add uranium
11:52 VanessaE example.
11:52 DanDuncombe And name me one mod that adds silve 'part from technic
11:52 VanessaE technic doesn't.
11:52 VanessaE only moreores adds it, afaik.
11:52 DanDuncombe moreores then
11:53 VanessaE and if yours adds it, that's one ore too many
11:53 DanDuncombe And when aliased properly, that will be one type of silver, duh
11:53 DanDuncombe And it is meant to be seperate from moreores, just compatable
11:53 DanDuncombe So intead of getting moreores, and not actually getting many new ores, you really get more ores
11:55 DanDuncombe And also, it is mostly based off dwarf fortress, so why don't you go and complain to that game's creator that there are too many ores?
11:55 VanessaE why would I complain?
11:55 DanDuncombe And finally, the idea is this adds as many realistic ores as I could think of.
11:55 VanessaE dude, don't get so hot under the collar...
11:55 DanDuncombe Not that I add a couple and wimp out
11:56 VanessaE also, check out the Realtest mod
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11:56 VanessaE it adds a bunch of ores
11:56 VanessaE well, it's a game actually, but still
11:56 DanDuncombe VanessaE, most of these are from realtest as well.
11:56 DanDuncombe Pretty much all the realtest ores are in this already
11:57 DanDuncombe And saying to medon't get angry really doesn't help, it nnoys me
11:57 DanDuncombe So fuck off
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11:57 VanessaE safuq?
11:57 VanessaE dafuq?
11:58 Jordach lol
11:58 Jordach bad spelling day?
11:58 VanessaE :P
11:58 Jordach <- is in business
11:58 VanessaE of trolling? ;)
11:58 Jordach that too
11:58 Jordach i just finished my survival house
11:59 Jordach taken 3 hours legit
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12:24 nore Jordach, try the new villages in mg
12:24 nore and tell me what you think of them
12:31 Pelayo -_- this is far from normal
12:31 GNADev|zRokh how so?
12:31 Pelayo two weeks ago my biggest hard drive died, today I started copying some files to a thumb drive and.. filesystem gone..
12:31 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:32 Pelayo at least it looks like some things might be recoverable
12:32 GNADev|zRokh i think you'r PC did dat old "Monster Kill (Kill, kill, kill)" shat on ya :D
12:32 Pelayo unlike that HDD
12:32 Pelayo -_-
12:33 GNADev|zRokh john_minetest!
12:33 GNADev|zRokh Jordach!
12:33 GNADev|zRokh OldCoder!
12:33 john_minetest GNADev|zRokh: ...
12:33 OldCoder Hi
12:33 GNADev|zRokh hi, i has a question
12:34 GNADev|zRokh do you guys use Desura?
12:34 GNADev|zRokh :)
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12:34 OldCoder john_minetest, I am proceeding with updates and wish to discuss Zegaton soon
12:34 * OldCoder is resting
12:34 GNADev|zRokh Zegaton :D
12:34 Pelayo no, only steam
12:34 GNADev|zRokh i saw that Zeg9 leaved this place 2 minutes after i arrived
12:35 GNADev|zRokh well, Pelayo, make a Desura account then, install Flare and enjoy :D
12:35 Pelayo I have not enough disk space even for updating steam right now :/
12:36 GNADev|zRokh oh yeah... xD
12:36 Pelayo can desura games be launched without launching desura first?
12:36 GNADev|zRokh hmm...
12:36 GNADev|zRokh idk...
12:36 GNADev|zRokh MAY-be...
12:37 Pelayo I hate those drm's like steam (but most steam games in linux can run without steam from what I've tested)
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12:37 GNADev|zRokh desura doesnt update every time like Steam does
12:37 GNADev|zRokh and it also has an Offline mode
12:37 Pelayo well, that's interesting :P
12:37 GNADev|zRokh that starts quick
12:37 GNADev|zRokh i know
12:37 Pelayo Steam gets 2 updates per week at least..
12:37 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:38 GNADev|zRokh oh, and the login time is a LOT shorter then on steam
12:40 Pelayo mm looks like they will show the steam box on monday
12:40 GNADev|zRokh oo :D
12:40 GNADev|zRokh Nixie Pixel already reviewed it
12:40 GNADev|zRokh but not the released one
12:40 GNADev|zRokh there was some convencion
12:41 Pelayo the one shown last year?
12:41 GNADev|zRokh i think so :D
12:41 Pelayo that was interesting, but too expensive
12:41 Pelayo I think it was about $500
12:41 GNADev|zRokh oh, and Machinima thought the Steam Box was going to be 1000$
12:41 GNADev|zRokh thats a lot
12:41 Pelayo oh...
12:41 GNADev|zRokh but that also was a long time ago
12:42 GNADev|zRokh well, i know what im getting in a few years :D
12:42 GNADev|zRokh OUYA :D
12:42 GNADev|zRokh in a few years because then its more advanced and updated and stuff
12:42 Pelayo well, a mid-high end gaming pc with similar specs to xbone and ps4 can be built for way less today
12:42 Pelayo I think a friend of mine had one for less than $700
12:43 GNADev|zRokh well the OUYA is 99.99$
12:43 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:43 GNADev|zRokh at Target
12:43 Pelayo ouya... is not having good press :/
12:43 GNADev|zRokh cause its an Android
12:43 Pelayo not only because of android
12:43 GNADev|zRokh and its freaking small :D
12:43 GNADev|zRokh oh, and its open source :D
12:43 Pelayo they force to add a propietary layer so their games don't run in other android devices
12:43 GNADev|zRokh the console itself is open source :D
12:44 Pelayo at least it is a nice and small media center with XBMC
12:44 GNADev|zRokh yeah :D
12:44 GNADev|zRokh it also has that live-stream app...
12:46 Pelayo before that I would buy a raspberry pi, but.. a raspberry pi is not for every user
12:46 GNADev|zRokh i dont get it... what is a rasberry pi anyway?
12:46 john_minetest ...
12:46 GNADev|zRokh i know its like a processor that is small
12:46 GNADev|zRokh right?
12:47 john_minetest It is not a processor
12:47 Pelayo it's a small computer, arm based
12:47 GNADev|zRokh oh
12:47 GNADev|zRokh whats arm?
12:47 GNADev|zRokh you mean hand?
12:47 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:47 john_minetest Advanced RISC Machine
12:47 Pelayo no, the architecture almost everything based on android use
12:47 GNADev|zRokh oh
12:47 john_minetest I don't like android.
12:47 GNADev|zRokh i do :D
12:47 john_minetest It is google and uses java.
12:47 Pelayo and nintendo's portable consoles, and apple portable devices
12:48 GNADev|zRokh its better then Windows Phone :D
12:48 ruskie and a ton of other stuff
12:48 john_minetest GNADev|zRokh: There are less viruses for WindowsPhone than for android.
12:48 ruskie it's the worlds most used architecture
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12:48 GNADev|zRokh what a shame that Nokia selled the company to Windows
12:48 DanDuncombe Sorry bout earlier VanessaE
12:48 VanessaE ...
12:48 Pelayo yep, it's being used even for clusters... because even if they don't have a lot of power, they don't waste energy
12:49 Pelayo less energy consumption = less heat = less cooling needed = even less energy consumption
12:49 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, do you  use Desura?
12:49 DanDuncombe I guess I could register all the ores etc as :moreores:ore,     instead of moreores_plus:ore
12:49 GNADev|zRokh :D
12:49 GNADev|zRokh Pelayo, you are a funny fella :D
12:49 DanDuncombe Then they would overwrite the existingmoreores ores
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12:49 john_minetest Lol, the name ARM is somehow strange because it is an "advanced reduced" architecture.
12:49 DanDuncombe And also be comapatible
12:49 VanessaE GNADev|zRokh: no, I do not.
12:49 DanDuncombe And also would moreores be a dependency if I did that?
12:49 VanessaE DanDuncombe: that would work, yes.
12:49 GNADev|zRokh oh....
12:50 VanessaE that'll redefine the matching ores
12:50 Pelayo haha
12:50 Pelayo a raspberry pi based console
12:50 VanessaE and you wouldn't need moreores as a dependency themn
12:50 VanessaE then*
12:50 Pelayo http://blog.oscarliang.net/wp-content/uploads/2​013/09/raspberry-pi-portable-gaming-console.jpg
12:50 DanDuncombe Yay solution!
12:50 john_minetest GNADev|zRokh: I thought about getting Desura but the license terms were long and there was strange stuff in it so I didn't.
12:50 DanDuncombe Noq,just need to make blocks
12:50 VanessaE just put it in depends.txt with a ? mark to force it to load first.
12:50 VanessaE (if it doesn't exist, it'll be ignored)
12:51 Pelayo oh, wow..
12:51 Pelayo a raspberry pi built into a game boy
12:51 Pelayo http://ohmycool.com/blog/wp-content/uploads​/Raspberrylaultimafrikadatecnologica-1.jpg
12:51 Pelayo it's awesome and blasphemous at the same time
12:51 sfan5 lol
12:51 DanDuncombe Ok VanessaE
12:52 DanDuncombe I will still call the textures moreore_plus though
12:52 DanDuncombe 'cause I can't be bothered to change them
12:52 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:53 DanDuncombe How are the moreores ores defined?
12:53 DanDuncombe Is it moreores:silver
12:53 DanDuncombe Or what/
12:53 VanessaE I don't remember
12:53 DanDuncombe Ok
12:53 DanDuncombe I have moreores so I can probably find out
12:54 DanDuncombe The only problem will be that there will be an ore overload with moreores installed.
12:54 DanDuncombe But then, this is meant as an alternative
12:54 VanessaE not really
12:54 VanessaE moreores only adds 3.  you add like 20
12:54 VanessaE which so you suppose is overload now? P)
12:54 VanessaE :)
12:54 DanDuncombe I mean too many of 1 type generate
12:54 VanessaE oh
12:55 DanDuncombe SO,20 tin in 1 mapblock
12:56 DanDuncombe But then againb, you don't need moreores to have this
12:56 DanDuncombe It is an alternative
12:56 DanDuncombe But I will definately add blcks
12:57 DanDuncombe It goes: moreores:mineral_tin    etc
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12:58 werwerwer_ DanDuncombe for what purpose so many ores? You're going to implement some advanced chemistry or make up some stuff that would require new ores?
12:59 DanDuncombe In case people want mods that usestuff like platinum, they don't have to define a whole nother platinum ore.
13:00 werwerwer_ Ah :) so, your goal is to add as many ores as possible for future use?
13:00 DanDuncombe Yes
13:00 DanDuncombe Maybe gemstoo
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13:02 PilzAdam thats nonsense IMO, since mods that use it will most likely know what rarity the ores should have, while you just have to guess
13:03 DanDuncombe I tried to use realistic rarity
13:03 PilzAdam so its not useful for mods that dont care about realism
13:03 DanDuncombe Also, I didn't bother making whole new strata layers of stone types for things that only occur in igneous rocks for example
13:03 DanDuncombe Anyway, who said they had to be realistic generation?
13:04 DanDuncombe This will be completely interchangeable with moreores
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13:05 VanessaE you'd be better off making it a modpack that has moreores included with it
13:05 VanessaE that way there's nothing to redefine
13:05 VanessaE and the user always gets moreores
13:06 VanessaE probably a good idea to break your ores into different categories also, make each category a mod
13:06 DanDuncombe This has everything registered the same way as moreores, so moreores:mineral_rutile
13:06 DanDuncombe And the same ores as moreores
13:06 DanDuncombe So technic compatable
13:07 VanessaE yes but if you make it a modpack with moreores included, it'll satisfy mods that need moreores also
13:07 VanessaE technic will not be satisfied by your mod, because your mod is not named "moreores".
13:08 DanDuncombe Ah
13:08 DanDuncombe I see
13:09 DanDuncombe But things are registered as moreores
13:09 DanDuncombe Oh well
13:09 VanessaE yup, that's not enough
13:09 DanDuncombe I could add an empty folder called moreorea
13:09 VanessaE that'll satisfy a mod that wants a moreores object for a recipe for example.
13:09 DanDuncombe *moreores
13:09 VanessaE nope, that ain't good enoufh
13:09 VanessaE that'll just throw an error
13:09 DanDuncombe Just include moreores?
13:09 DanDuncombe As in a modpack?
13:10 VanessaE just make a modpack and put moreores in there alongside your mod
13:10 DanDuncombe Also, on top of blocks, should I add tools as well, like moreores?
13:10 VanessaE modpack.txt, moreores_plus, moreores
13:10 VanessaE no, we have enough toold
13:10 VanessaE tools*
13:10 werwerwer_ daaang, evenmoreores would be awesome name -_-
13:11 VanessaE werwerwer_: already suggested it as a joke :)
13:11 DanDuncombe I could easily call it that but I can't be bohrred
13:11 werwerwer_ VanessaE: yeah, i'm just supporting your suggestion
13:18 VanessaE oh :)
13:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
13:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
13:18 VanessaE hi
13:19 Dark_Soul good morning all :)
13:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
13:19 VanessaE Prestotron562: don't get yourself in trouble
13:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
13:20 VanessaE I mean with your boss
13:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
13:21 VanessaE ...
13:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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13:36 Jordach VanessaE, you still here
13:36 VanessaE yeah
13:36 Jordach PM in 10 secs
13:39 Jordach sfan5, any new updates for mg
13:41 sfan5 yes
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13:43 Jordach drop the PM
13:44 Jordach Hey BlockMen
13:44 kaeza http://cdn.meme.li/i/opsxh.jpg
13:44 BlockMen Hi Jordach, and everyone else ;)
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13:44 Jordach hey nore
13:44 VanessaE hey BlockMen
13:44 kaeza oh crap was seeing backlog
13:44 nore Jordach, you should try the newest villages
13:44 nore now there are real roads, etc.
13:44 Jordach lemme FUCKING GIT PULL
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13:45 Jordach DROP THE BLOCK!
13:45 BlockMen that mapgen is awesome
13:45 BlockMen good work nore+sfan5!
13:46 nore thx
13:46 sfan5 thanks
13:46 nore sfan5, did you try the new villages?
13:47 sfan5 yes
13:47 sfan5 they are awesome
13:47 nore the ones I pushed 5 minutes ago?
13:47 Dark_Soul can some one tell me why the hoes on my server will not work?
13:47 DanDuncombe Nope
13:48 DanDuncombe Give the errorfirst
13:48 Jordach nore, http://i.imgur.com/C7w993o.png
13:48 sfan5 nore: now yes, even better :P
13:48 Dark_Soul i dont get a error the just dont turn the dirt to soil
13:48 Jordach Dark_Soul, have you LEFT clicked the dirt you are trying to TILL.
13:48 Dark_Soul doesnt work
13:50 nore sfan5, don't you think villages are a bit too rare?
13:50 sfan5 yes
13:51 BlockMen Jordach, desktop is best place to store files :P
13:51 BlockMen very good for startup
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13:55 DanDuncombe Goodbye
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13:57 VanessaE bbl
13:58 BlockMen nore, sfan5 -> http://i.imgur.com/Acr7WcE.jpg
13:59 Jordach HOLY SHIT
13:59 Jordach that's better than MC villages
14:00 sfan5 BlockMen: posted that screenshot in the topic: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=111476#p111476
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14:04 sfan5 !server mg
14:04 MinetestBot sfan5: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 0/25, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.117
14:04 ShadowBot sfan5: server [--{name,address,players,ping,port} <value>]
14:04 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu
14:04 ShadowBot sfan5: The operation succeeded.
14:04 Jordach ShadowBot, shush :P
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14:06 nore sfan5: we need to place buildings so that their entrance is in the direction of the road
14:06 nore I updated the topic with your screenshot too
14:06 Dark_Soul my hoe will not till on my minetest game
14:06 sfan5 !server mg
14:06 MinetestBot sfan5: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 0/25, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.118
14:07 sfan5 ^ Jordach
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14:07 Jordach sfan5, nice
14:07 Jordach sfan5, simple mobs works with MG btw
14:07 Dark_Soul can someone help me plz there is something wrong with the file
14:07 nore sfan5, is it possible to have an IP adress without "7" please?
14:07 sfan5 nore: see the serverlist
14:09 Jordach isn't that sfan5.duckdns.org
14:09 sfan5 yes
14:09 Jordach why didnt you say so
14:09 sfan5 dunno
14:10 xiong Hm. Looks like pipeworks disables all its crafts if technic is installed... because technic defines them differently. But...
14:10 xiong Since technic does not define a conductor tube; now there is no craft for it at all. I guess I'm saying that the ball seems to have dropped squarely between two souls and I'm hoping somebody blinks and picks it up.
14:11 xiong Is that right or do I have the wrong end of the stick/
14:11 Pelayo mg didn't work for me when I tested it yesterday, it didn't even start :/
14:12 sfan5 Pelayo: if you still want to see the landscape you can join my server on the serverlist
14:12 sfan5 <MinetestBot> sfan5: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 0/25, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.118
14:13 Pelayo looks nice :D
14:23 kaeza anybody knows off the top of their head which is the latest version of UI? RBA/unified_inventory, technic, or technic_game?
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14:35 nore what happened?
14:36 Jordach sfan5, what have we learned: don't go PUBLIC SERVERLIST.
14:36 nore Jordach, what happened?
14:36 Jordach he /shutdown
14:36 nore why?
14:36 Jordach people bombardment
14:36 Jordach it's a testing server not a fucking playing one
14:36 sfan5 its up
14:38 Jordach two people have a copy of MC4MT8
14:38 Jordach one of which sits in /var/www/
14:38 Jordach ^ sfan5
14:39 Pelayo no one has a copy of my converter because it's awful and I don't want anyone to look at the code :P
14:39 sfan5 Jordach: heh
14:40 harrison pubic source
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14:46 Dark_Soul does anyone have a farming mod that has the hoes accualt till the dirt? cuase for some reaso nthe one that comes with the minetest doesnt work
14:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:47 Dark_Soul well people are tryingto farm on my server but they cant cause it will not till
14:47 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:47 Dark_Soul not till a bit ago when i was tringto fix it
14:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:48 Dark_Soul i try not to mess with the mods that come with the game
14:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:48 Dark_Soul windows 7
14:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:49 Dark_Soul i know what im doing (only when fixing a problem)
14:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:50 Dark_Soul i have wanted to get linux but idk how to install it (never messed with the core processors
14:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:50 Dark_Soul ok thanks
14:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:50 harrison ugh
14:50 Dark_Soul free and that works good
14:51 harrison siduction
14:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:51 Dark_Soul ok
14:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:51 Dark_Soul idk im using my labtop
14:51 Dark_Soul how do i find out?
14:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:52 Dark_Soul o well its says 111 under the bar
14:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:52 PilzAdam Prestotron562, not in this channel
14:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:53 PilzAdam Dark_Soul, how did you try to plow dirt with the hoe?
14:53 Dark_Soul yes doesnt work
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15:11 jin_xi generated a city: http://i.imgur.com/XH28mvM.png
15:12 Jordach HOLY CHEESY MOTHER FUCKING JESUS SHITBALLS BATMAN
15:14 sfan5 heh
15:15 nore jin_xi, how did you do that?
15:15 jin_xi the luaturtle mod i've been working on for a while
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15:26 harrison please name a server
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15:32 sfan5 umm
15:34 nore sfan5, did you restart the server?
15:34 sfan5 17:34:10: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...ux/bin/../mods/worldedit-mod/​worldedit/manipulations.lua:302: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'factor' (a nil value)
15:34 nore bug with WE then
15:35 nore I was trying to use //scale
15:35 sfan5 put it in a while true loop now
15:35 sfan5 (its up)
15:36 AWTom My Debian install didn't come with a graphical interface, or a default apt-get location
15:37 AWTom My intelligence doesn't stretch to finding an official apt-get repository
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15:38 harrison Please do go on - this is fascinating.
15:39 harrison jin_xi: procedural architecture or turtles all the way down?
15:39 Dark_Soul Prestoron562 hey i like it so far but my mother is not giveme the password to wifi XD
15:39 AWTom I'm stuck in a command prompt and I don't know what to put in /etc/apt/sources.list
15:40 jin_xi very simple procedural arch... there is two types of buildings and a stacked version of both
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15:48 DanDuncombe Okay, I have now done my 'official' release of moreores_plus.
15:49 Jordach moreores_plus is a shitty name that sucks ass
15:49 Jordach </avgn>
15:49 Jordach try even_moreores
15:49 Pelayo Jordach, specially if someone wants to do a mod that adds more...
15:50 DanDuncombe Why should I makea whole new repo called even_moreores just to satisfy Jordach? Just rename it to even_moreoresif you want, it is a modpack
15:50 Jordach an addon for a addon
15:50 DanDuncombe No,it isstandalone
15:50 DanDuncombe But registers things as moreores, so there is compatability
15:52 DanDuncombe And includes an empty mod called moreores, so Technic is satisfied
15:52 DanDuncombe Although I guess I could just make it as an addon
15:52 kaeza related: http://xkcd.com/927/
15:53 pitriss DanDuncombe: are you sure that this is compatibility and not conflict?
15:53 DanDuncombe Yes I am
15:53 DanDuncombe I think so anyway
15:53 harrison what is the full-screen toggle key?
15:53 DanDuncombe AFAIK Technic works fine with this
15:54 pitriss DanDuncombe: and what will happen in future, when someone adds this into technic game and classic moreore recipes will be different than yours?
15:54 AWTom I found the address of a repository \o/
15:54 DanDuncombe Classicmoreore recipes are different? WHat?
15:55 DanDuncombe I know this doesn't addtools like moreores does.
15:55 pitriss DanDuncombe: read carefully.. IN FUTURE..
15:55 DanDuncombe Tell you what, I will re-make this as an addon.
15:58 sfan5 !title
15:58 MinetestBot sfan5: xkcd: Standards
15:59 Jordach i've just given a hint: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=111490#p111490
16:01 DanDuncombe How can I do the thing where a certain file is run if a mod is installed, but run a different one if the mod is not installed?
16:02 Jordach it's called soft depends
16:02 DanDuncombe So how?
16:02 DanDuncombe I know VanessaE showed meearlier
16:02 sfan5 nore: code for what?
16:02 nore code for rotation
16:03 sfan5 of?
16:03 sfan5 ..
16:03 sfan5 code for worldedit schems is done
16:04 Jordach fark that was quick
16:04 Jordach new map and let's test ;)
16:04 sfan5 wait wait
16:04 Jordach (btw, we should do a survival series based around MG - everyone gets a part; i'll do english, nore can do french and sfan5 can do german ;P )
16:05 sfan5 :P
16:05 * Jordach is having split decisions
16:05 Jordach i don't know if i want to play openspades or minetest
16:06 sfan5 Jordach: please note that //save adds .we
16:06 Jordach sowwy
16:06 * sfan5 haz a church.we.we file
16:06 sfan5 the best thing: you can see the differences of .we's on Github
16:07 nore sfan5: pushed
16:08 sfan5 nore: pushed too
16:08 sfan5 now lets do this
16:09 nore sfan5, you add c_ignore when inside a building too
16:09 nore is should be air
16:09 sfan5 how can the code know where inside is and where outside is?
16:09 sfan5 you can't (easily) define that with a var.
16:10 nore I would hand_change the schematic, then
16:11 sfan5 I don't think the issue is that critical
16:14 nore sfan5, I changed the schematic loading to put it in a function
16:14 nore it's better
16:15 sfan5 ok wait
16:15 sfan5 I'm currently working on that too
16:15 nore it's already pushed
16:15 sfan5 I'll put it i--
16:15 sfan5 nvm
16:15 nore I just copied the code in a new file(we.lua)
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16:24 sfan5 nore: it's a good idea to try to use a "local function" from another file :P
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16:24 Jordach EVERYONE HIDE!
16:24 GNADev|zRokh WHY?!
16:24 * sfan5 hides
16:25 * GNADev|zRokh hides with sfan5
16:25 GNADev|zRokh why are we hiding?
16:26 nore oops...
16:27 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, why are we hiding?
16:28 * GNADev|zRokh hopes that nore doesn't see him
16:28 sfan5 dunno
16:28 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, do you use Desura?
16:28 GNADev|zRokh :)
16:28 sfan5 no
16:29 GNADev|zRokh oh... :/
16:29 GNADev|zRokh register and download 2 games: Flare & Need for Madness
16:29 GNADev|zRokh :D
16:30 sfan5 no time
16:31 GNADev|zRokh YOU NEVER HAVE TIME <:C
16:31 GNADev|zRokh well bye biggums
16:31 GNADev|zRokh gonna play Need for Maddness :P
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16:35 sfan5 Jordach: chruch generation in the works
16:35 sfan5 ACTION[ServerThread]: minecraft [78.xxx.170.246] joins game
16:35 sfan5 ^ lol
16:35 GNADev|zRokh joined #minetest
16:36 GNADev|zRokh im back
16:36 GNADev|zRokh Need for Madness doesnt work :/
16:36 nore sfan5: did you push that?
16:36 sfan5 not yet
16:36 sfan5 well
16:36 sfan5 the schematic is already there
16:36 sfan5 but the descriptors in buildings.lua are not pushed yet
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16:37 nore do they use the orient parameter?
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16:38 sfan5 yes
16:38 Jordach sfan5, we worked out a bad
16:38 Jordach bed*
16:38 sfan5 nice
16:38 Jordach come see :P
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16:41 nore sfan5, do you think it would be possible to add signs with randomly generated text?
16:42 sfan5 yes
16:42 nore and we should add random items in chests/furnace (for example, minerals in forge, ...)
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16:44 GNADev|zRokh done :D
16:44 nore sfan5, push please! I want to test
16:44 sfan5 wait
16:45 sfan5 need to work out one bug
16:46 nore what?
16:46 sfan5 s/work out/fix/
16:47 nore yes, but what bug?
16:49 sfan5 pushed
16:51 nore shouldn't the churches have yoffset = -1?
16:52 sfan5 maybe
16:52 GNADev|zRokh there are churches?
16:52 GNADev|zRokh :O
16:52 sfan5 yes
16:52 nore and are you adding the other buildings?
16:52 sfan5 sure
16:53 sfan5 you can add them too, the schematics are already there
16:53 GNADev|zRokh hey... is it possible to generate a block right next to the player's spawn location?
16:53 GNADev|zRokh or just at some cordinates?
16:53 nore bbl
16:54 ShadowNinja GNADev|zRokh: Yes, on_respawnplayer or some such.
16:54 BlockMen sfan5, church without church tower?
16:55 sfan5 well....
16:55 GNADev|zRokh LOL :D
16:55 sfan5 it is a .we schematic
16:55 sfan5 make a better one
16:55 BlockMen me? na...
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16:57 GNADev|zRokh im going to play 2x0ng :D
16:58 Peacock your mother
16:58 GNADev|zRokh soon
16:58 GNADev|zRokh Pronounce it TOO-ZONG :D
16:58 * Jordach had a blocked left ear
16:58 sfan5 Jordach: you forgot to save the water source block of the fountain
16:59 * GNADev|zRokh washes his ears
16:59 Jordach sfan5, OH SHIT
16:59 Jordach did you correct my mistake sfan5
16:59 sfan5 no
16:59 Jordach well, there is nobody maintaining the village so the fountain would have dried up over time
16:59 GNADev|zRokh omg, downloading 2x0ng from Desura at [ 54 KiB/s ]
17:00 Jordach sucks to be you
17:00 GNADev|zRokh total: 44.36 MiB
17:00 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, stop talking
17:00 Jordach plolol
17:00 Peacock lol
17:01 GNADev|zRokh does that reduce the packages sent to the Freenode server thus giving my connection more speed?
17:01 Peacock just insult his mother, that usually works XD
17:01 kaeza no, but it keeps the channel cleaner
17:01 sfan5 Jordach: sorry, you didn't forget anything, I did
17:01 Peacock ie, your momma's so fat, when she walks around in high heels, she strikes oil
17:02 GNADev|zRokh but that wont help me, kaeza :(
17:02 nore sfan5, there is a *little* problem with facedir
17:02 GNADev|zRokh PilzAdam, do you use Desura?
17:02 nore (in the church)
17:02 GNADev|zRokh what is it?
17:03 GNADev|zRokh does the pastor have a butt for its face?
17:03 sfan5 nore: oh right..
17:03 GNADev|zRokh :D
17:03 GNADev|zRokh ooo [ 78 KiB/s ]
17:04 ShadowNinja GNADev|zRokh: We don't need progress reports.
17:04 GNADev|zRokh But master, progress reports are like my family
17:04 sfan5 nore: could you look whats wrong? I'm currently working on the buildings..
17:05 GNADev|zRokh gee, thanks a lot, ShadowNinja... now its down to [ 67 KiB/s ]
17:06 PilzAdam stop that now, or youll get kicked
17:06 GNADev|zRokh and dropping
17:06 Jordach !mute GNADev|zRokh
17:06 Jordach shush
17:06 PilzAdam \o/
17:06 kaeza \o/
17:06 Peacock lol
17:06 * PilzAdam high fives Jordach
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17:06 Jordach gladly.
17:06 Peacock going to the bathroom....10% ... just kidding :P
17:07 Jordach trolol
17:08 * Jordach is enjoying the progress on the Lua mapgen
17:08 Jordach dammit sfan5
17:08 sfan5 heh
17:08 * sfan5 plols
17:08 Jordach [18:02:21] <sfan5> Jordach: sorry, you didn't forget anything, I did <- you need a reality check :P
17:09 sfan5 ACTION[ServerThread]: R3C0NF1GUR4T0R [190.139.xxx.245] joins game
17:09 sfan5 ^ yo
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17:09 Peacock looks legit
17:11 Jordach sfan5, http://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Guru_Meditation#Origins
17:11 Jordach try that for a bit
17:11 sfan5 Jordach: it's just... WorldEdit displays one too few for width, height and depth
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17:11 sfan5 s/few/low/
17:13 sfan5 [...] object 2014: player Zeg9
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17:13 sfan5 2014 FTW
17:13 sfan5 :P
17:13 * Zeg9 is an object :-/
17:18 Jordach awwww
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17:24 Jordach hey Evergreen
17:24 Evergreen Hi
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17:24 PilzAdam someone interested in german politics?
17:24 Jordach mabbe
17:25 Jordach Evergreen, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263
17:25 Evergreen I saw already
17:25 Jordach sfan5, bug; i keep spawning underground
17:26 Jordach Evergreen, http://i.imgur.com/FK2aBih.jpg
17:26 Evergreen I saw that too, it looks awesome
17:27 Jordach fun fact: me sfan5 and nore built that
17:27 Jordach we literally build it, save with worldedit then convert to mg's format
17:27 Jordach (when i say convert, i mean bridge worldedit saves)
17:28 Evergreen By the way, I can't seem to get gnome panel plugins to work with xfce
17:29 * Jordach just wouldn't bother :P
17:29 nore sfan5, it is the import code
17:30 nore it does not set the correct "rotation" field, that tells the rotater about how to rotate (must be "facedir" or "wallmounted")
17:30 Peacock PA i read this morning that merkel won
17:31 PilzAdam yea, Merkel has almost a majority in parliament
17:31 Peacock lucky, its rare the polls are right in predicting outcomes here lol
17:32 Peacock and Bo Xilai is going to jail for life
17:33 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/lJyEXC4.png nice village
17:35 sfan5 Jordach: s/convert//
17:35 nore sfan5: fixed
17:35 sfan5 nore: I was about to do that now
17:35 nore and pushed
17:36 sfan5 jin_xi: holy shit y=100+ mountains are very rare
17:37 ShadowNinja sfan5: Can you make a pull request for your fixes to OpenSpades?
17:37 sfan5 ShadowNinja: maybe
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17:38 ShadowNinja They also managed to break in in other ways. (The scripts won't load)
17:38 nore sfan5: I don't understand why several buildings are above the ground, with stais while it could be better with yoffset=-1
17:39 sfan5 yoff puts them in the ground 2 blocks
17:39 sfan5 s/yoff/yoff=-1/
17:39 ShadowNinja They use AngelScript, which is apparently C++ as a scripting langusge...
17:40 nore yeah, but why are they above ground (tower, church, house with garden)
17:40 ShadowNinja And they have compiler warnings like nothing else...
17:41 nore and could you add a door to the tower?
17:41 Jordach iirc, the main dev is Japanese, (it's known their coding is somewhat terrible, but gets fixed over time)
17:42 nore (and houses, and perhaps change the hand-made things to we schematics too)
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17:44 zat1 Is it possible to set default privileges per user in the config?
17:45 PilzAdam zat1, not per user, but you can modify auth.txt in the world directory
17:46 PilzAdam auth.txt stores the privs per user
17:46 zat1 PilzAdam: I tried that when the server is offline but the settings are restores.
17:46 zat1 restored*
17:47 PilzAdam strange
17:50 Jordach sfan5, all i want to do is explore MG
17:50 ShadowNinja I don't think they are stored anywhere else, make sure the server is completely shut down and that you are saving thefile after modifying it.
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17:52 * Jordach updates mg again
17:55 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/vUzsthe.jpg
17:55 Jordach looking good
17:56 ShadowNinja sfan5: You should change #else #if #endif to #elif in your patch.
17:56 sfan5 yes
17:56 sfan5 I should
17:56 jin_xi time to make villages, smaller villages w/o street, cities with towers and stuff and walled cities :P
17:56 sfan5 !server players:most
17:56 MinetestBot sfan5: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 12/15, 14 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.145
17:56 sfan5 holy shit
17:57 sfan5 walls... good idea
18:00 ShadowNinja The-whole-map-is-a-vilage vilages. :-)
18:00 Zeg9 :( I can't connect to mg server
18:00 nore !server players:most
18:00 MinetestBot nore: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 13/15, 14 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.119
18:00 * Zeg9 hates the "too many users" limit
18:01 nore I disconnected, you can connect
18:02 Zeg9 still cant :(
18:02 nore sfan5: could you add the inn too?
18:02 sfan5 where is it?
18:02 nore saved
18:02 Zeg9 by the way, I tested the mod in the morning, I noticed there were no planks for the added trees (details are important !)
18:02 nore or follow me
18:04 nore sfan5, we should change the others schematics for that too, and add doors
18:05 sfan5 Zeg9: what about you make a pull request?
18:05 Zeg9 good idea
18:14 Jordach sfan5, interesting bug: http://i.imgur.com/7Lv6JjM.png
18:15 sfan5 oh
18:16 nore strange
18:16 nore what does the backtrace say?
18:17 sfan5 if emergethread crashed there is no backtrace
18:17 sfan5 crashes*
18:17 nore bbl
18:17 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/6142379/
18:18 sfan5 Inns added!
18:18 Jordach fark, have to git pull again
18:18 Jordach you bastard.
18:18 sfan5 :D
18:20 Jordach done, btw, that crash was on latest git of your mapgen (just before inns were added)
18:23 Zeg9 nore/sfan5: https://github.com/Novatux/mg/pull/2
18:23 Jordach i've never found a natural village btw
18:23 Zeg9 omg I took 20 minutes doing that
18:23 Zeg9 maybe due to my brother calling me every 30 seconds
18:24 Jordach what's his problem
18:24 Zeg9 he needs help doing that parkour on the mg server...
18:24 Jordach lol
18:24 sfan5 Jordach: inns are now really added
18:24 Jordach >:(
18:25 sfan5 but wait
18:25 Jordach THERES MORE
18:25 sfan5 I'll update towers too
18:26 Jordach pulled again *sigh*
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18:26 sfan5 Jordach: you can pull now
18:26 Jordach oh cmon
18:27 Jordach quit git pulling my leg
18:27 Dark_Soul can someone help me download minetest for linux i have used windows but i switched to linux so how do i install it?
18:27 Jordach (and don't you dare merge Zeg9's pull, i have to make some textures)
18:27 sfan5 Jordach: I was about to do that
18:27 sfan5 Dark_Soul: ...
18:27 Jordach you sonva
18:27 Dark_Soul yes?
18:28 sfan5 which distro?
18:28 Dark_Soul Ubuntu
18:28 Jordach $5 ubunut
18:28 Jordach fuck, missed by a second
18:28 sfan5 try this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
18:28 Dark_Soul thanks :)
18:29 Dark_Soul lol Jordach
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18:29 Jordach sfan5, Already up-to-date.
18:30 Jordach plol, you didnt merge it
18:30 sfan5 NOT YET!
18:30 Jordach 1 year ago everyone said a Lua based mapgen wouldnt work
18:30 Dark_Soul time to find out what a terminal is XD
18:31 Peacock jordach i still dont know why people dont put their efforts towards finishing mapgen 7 instead :P
18:33 * Jordach growls at sfan5
18:33 sfan5 another commit incoming
18:34 Jordach grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
18:34 Dark_Soul o yea i figured it out
18:34 sfan5 Jordach: now pull
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18:36 Jordach just supported the two planks as well
18:38 Zeg9 are there still any needed buildings for mg?
18:39 * Jordach wants a good old fashioned pub
18:39 Jordach fill a glass vessel with booze and drink up
18:40 sfan5 Zeg9: yes
18:41 * Jordach thinks a towm put would be awesome
18:41 Jordach pub*
18:41 Jordach town*
18:44 * Jordach waits two years for a webpage to render
18:44 sfan5 where is nore...
18:45 Jordach !seen nore
18:45 MinetestBot Jordach: nore was last seen at 2013-09-22 18:14:55 UTC on #minetest
18:50 Dark_Soul hmmmm i can find the minetest file where it says it is
18:54 Dark_Soul are there any programs i need to install minetest cuase its not in any of my files
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18:55 harrison cisoun
18:55 harrison name a server
18:55 harrison i will join you
18:56 cisoun I can't play right now sorry. (doing my math homeworks...)
18:56 harrison very studentlike of you
18:57 Peacock drawtype = studentlike
19:04 ShadowNinja Peacock: No, drawtype = "studentlike"
19:04 ShadowNinja ;-)
19:05 Peacock param2 = "anal" ;-)
19:05 Dark_Soul hmmm i cant figure out how to get minetest on my linux
19:07 sfan5 Dark_Soul: what is the ouput of the command?
19:08 * harrison is sensitive
19:08 Dark_Soul command ? like in the terminal?
19:09 harrison Dark_Soul: i recommend that you clone the github repo and compile it
19:09 Dark_Soul umm i have no idea what you just said sorry
19:09 Dark_Soul im new to linux i have always used windows
19:09 pitriss harrison: lol.. yeah compiling is best way how to get minetest for somebody who didn't know how to use commandline
19:10 Miner_48er did you switch?
19:10 sfan5 Dark_Soul: run the commands from the topics and pastebin the output
19:10 Dark_Soul ok
19:11 Dark_Soul wow
19:11 Dark_Soul its messing up
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19:12 Jordach sfan5, anything new
19:12 Dark_Soul its not leting me type my password after i paste
19:12 Dark_Soul -.-
19:12 Dark_Soul i cant type anything
19:12 sfan5 you won't see the password you type
19:13 Jordach Dark_Soul, when you type your password, it doesnt display your password
19:13 Dark_Soul its telling me its wrong when its not the doesnt even move
19:13 Dark_Soul finally
19:13 Jordach Dark_Soul, type it if you are normally typing one on windows
19:14 Jordach (the terminal just doesnt display the password - for security reasons)
19:14 * Jordach pokes sfan5
19:14 sfan5 Jordach: no nothing new
19:14 Dark_Soul http://pastebin.com/3x3YpsJ3 thats what its telling me
19:14 sfan5 but we need moer village buildings
19:14 Jordach sfan5, killed your 30000 port yet
19:14 sfan5 more
19:14 sfan5 *
19:14 sfan5 nope
19:14 Jordach !server mg
19:14 MinetestBot Jordach: "mg" Mapgen | 79.235.15.138 | Clients: 0/15, 14 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.117
19:15 sfan5 Dark_Soul: try "sudo apt-get update" and then run the commands again
19:16 Jordach sfan5, want a local pub?
19:17 Dark_Soul o wow its doing alot
19:17 sfan5 Jordach: yes
19:17 Dark_Soul do i have to do both commands?
19:20 sfan5 after the one I told you finished
19:20 sfan5 do the commands from the topic again
19:21 Dark_Soul i did thefirst one was fast but those commands( im still on the first on its doing a ton of things
19:22 Dark_Soul ok both commands are done what next?
19:22 sfan5 pastebin the output
19:22 Dark_Soul ok
19:24 * Zeg9 is building...
19:24 Zeg9 http://imgur.com/0ZdP1fp
19:24 Dark_Soul http://pastebin.com/5wabyvW3
19:25 Dark_Soul great house Zeg9
19:25 Zeg9 thanks
19:25 Dark_Soul your welcome :)
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19:28 Jordach hax
19:31 Zeg9 Bye all
19:31 Dark_Soul bye
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19:34 sfan5 Jordach: please bear the lag, currently worldediting
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19:36 Dark_Soul sfan so whats wrong with it?
19:36 sfan5 Jordach: please bear the lag, worldediting again
19:36 sfan5 Dark_Soul: oh, sorry for not paying attention
19:36 Dark_Soul lol its ok :)
19:37 sfan5 Dark_Soul: cd ~ and run the second command again
19:37 sfan5 then it should work
19:37 Dark_Soul o ok
19:38 Peacock lol bear
19:38 sfan5 Jordach: ok whatever, just rejoin+
19:38 Peacock http://i.qkme.me/3pxmfw.jpg
19:38 sfan5 -+
19:38 Jordach fuck
19:38 Jordach nearly finished
19:38 Jordach Peacock, plol
19:39 Dark_Soul its giveing me works that are colored is that good?
19:39 Dark_Soul words?
19:41 sfan5 yes
19:41 sfan5 that means it is compiling minetest
19:42 Dark_Soul ok and i run a server on my windows core is there a way to transfer the mods and world over?
19:42 sfan5 yes
19:42 sfan5 copy the "mods" and the "worlds" folders from the windows partition
19:43 Dark_Soul good im glad
19:43 Dark_Soul hold on plz
19:43 sfan5 you may also want to copy your configuration (minetest.conf)
19:43 Dark_Soul yes i will
19:44 Dark_Soul so just copy them over?
19:44 sfan5 yes
19:44 Dark_Soul ok cool
19:44 sfan5 into your "minetest" folder
19:44 Dark_Soul thanks for all the help :)
19:44 harrison but did it succeed in compiling? that is always an important question
19:45 Dark_Soul yes i think it opened minetest
19:45 sfan5 then it worked
19:45 Dark_Soul maby i will get better frps i usally only get 5-7
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19:49 Jordach sfan5, pub is done, worldedit does not make a responce
19:49 sfan5 hm
19:49 Jordach kill it and reboot
19:49 sfan5 why is there no roof?
19:50 sfan5 done
19:50 Jordach sfan5, built for me
19:54 Dark_Soul omg i love Linux with windows i got 5-7 frps with linus i get 30-50 O.O
19:54 Dark_Soul and everthing looks much better
19:54 sfan5 linux*
19:54 PilzAdam *FPS
19:55 Dark_Soul sorry
19:55 Dark_Soul XD
19:57 Jordach sfan5, we are ready for clearance
19:59 Dark_Soul hmm now how to i make it like on my windows with a shortcut to start the server with out me on
19:59 Jordach use advanced tab
20:00 Peacock well if youre running all sorts of antivirus and antispyware crap, you dont have to wonder where all your FPS is going :P
20:00 Dark_Soul ?
20:00 Jordach sfan5, ping
20:00 sfan5 Jordach, pong
20:00 Jordach kill the server, i //pos1 then //load pub twice
20:01 Jordach perfect every time
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20:03 Jordach sfan5, status
20:03 * NekoGloop sits on Jordach's head
20:03 * Jordach pets NekoGloop
20:03 * NekoGloop purrs :3
20:04 sfan5 up
20:04 * Jordach wibbles belly
20:04 Jordach wut, nothing according to my client
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20:05 Jordach what fucking port did you set it to
20:05 Lordeon what?
20:06 sfan5 Jordach: 30000
20:06 Lordeon Oh
20:07 sfan5 Jordach: try the ip from the server list, I just had my daily internet reconnect
20:07 Jordach fuck
20:07 Jordach server list, you mad bro
20:08 Jordach i just wanted a quiet private server using mg
20:13 Jordach sfan5, gut pull
20:13 Jordach plol
20:13 sfan5 wat
20:14 Jordach you said it in chat
20:15 sfan5 oh right
20:15 sfan5 ..
20:15 * sfan5 hides
20:16 * Jordach throws NekoGloop at sfan5
20:16 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on Jordach's head
20:16 * NekoGloop flies away
20:16 Jordach It was not very effective.
20:17 sfan5 :-/
20:19 Dark_Soul sfan5 ok everything works but i cant see the server list
20:19 sfan5 Jordach: pull the git from github
20:19 sfan5 server up
20:20 sfan5 Dark_Soul: curl support doesn't seem to be compiled in
20:20 Dark_Soul how do i fix?
20:20 sfan5 let me see
20:21 Dark_Soul ok
20:22 sfan5 Dark_Soul: try this command "OLDPWD=`pwd`; cd ~/minetest; sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev; cmake . -DENABLE_CURL=1; make -j2; cd $OLDPWD"
20:23 Dark_Soul ok hold on
20:32 thexyz or you can just "cd -"
20:33 sfan5 oh..
20:33 sfan5 right
20:33 sfan5 goodnight everyone
20:33 thexyz and it also may be a good idea to build in separate directory
20:34 Dark_Soul bye :)
20:34 Dark_Soul and Thanks for everything
20:41 Dark_Soul ummm
20:42 Dark_Soul now im haveing abother problem when i turn on mesecons and technic it turns off other mods
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20:57 Dark_Soul can someone help me fix it
20:58 Dark_Soul hold on brb
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21:49 iqualfragile arsdragonfly: you uploaded quite a lot of versions to RandomMessages, do you want them all or just the latest one?
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21:51 iqualfragile arsdragonfly: allso: please rename the folder from random_messages-master to random_messages
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22:22 zat1 I killed a player twice, burned the house of other one and filled one of his mines with lava.
22:22 zat1 I must be the worst admin ever
22:23 BlockMen bye everyone
22:23 kaeza ...or the best one
22:23 kaeza (if those were griefers)
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22:24 kaeza you know what they say: eye for eye (excluding the last part by Ghandi)
22:28 zat1 the last one was a griefer
22:28 zat1 the one I killed twice was a friend though
22:33 iqualfragile zat1: nah, i do that all the time, my players love me
22:34 iqualfragile (or they get a nice new lava pool)
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22:42 zat1 I love making lava pools
22:42 zat1 specially when they are digging... I make a surprise one right where they are about to dig in.
22:55 Peacock lol my retards try to set fire with nodes clearly marked "Decorative Fire"
22:55 Peacock *fires
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23:06 FreeFull Peacock: Heheh
23:06 FreeFull Peacock: They should have tried lava
23:06 Peacock how would they get it?
23:06 FreeFull Although since damage is disabled, and fire probably is too, lava wouldn't do much
23:07 Peacock buckets are also disabled
23:07 Peacock as is creative inv for noobs
23:07 FreeFull There is a glitch where if you dig through blocks near a liquid, sometimes you'll pick up some of the liquid
23:07 Peacock there'll probably be a fix for that in 0.6.0 :P
23:07 FreeFull =P
23:07 FreeFull To get to lava though you need to dig down, and that's effort
23:08 Peacock way down too
23:08 kaeza huh
23:09 kaeza that glitch was fixed ages ago afaik
23:09 Peacock never happened to me anyways
23:09 Peacock the most annoying/frequent bug i have right now https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5301
23:10 kaeza it happens under lag; basically, you dig a block, the server takes note, the block appears again due to lag, you dig it again, the server takes note again...
23:10 kaeza the first time you get the original node's drops, the second time the "new node" (which could be air or a liquid which flowed into the now dug block)
23:11 Peacock rarely it happens even when im not digging
23:11 Peacock though everytime, im not in free move mode
23:11 Peacock so the result is always fast-falling in infinite space
23:12 Peacock whats weird is the last time i updated minetest, the p4 started doing it too
23:13 kaeza hmm... that used to happen with the trampolines of the jumping mod
23:13 Peacock dunno, maybe it could be related to physics, i know the bugs been happening since at least 0.4.5
23:15 kaeza never experienced that error personally though
23:16 kaeza seems like a too fast speed... maybe overflow in movement calcs (though I doubt it)
23:16 Peacock well it tends to mostly happen when youve been building for a long time in the same session, its really weird lol
23:16 iqualfragile any speculations about release dates?
23:17 Peacock for 0.4.8? your guess is as good as mine
23:17 VanessaE hi all
23:17 kaeza "Soon™"
23:18 kaeza hey V
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23:28 Pilcrow hi
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23:43 iqualfragile !seen jeija
23:43 MinetestBot iqualfragile: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
23:43 iqualfragile hi Pilcrow
23:49 Pilcrow not much going on aroud here right now, huh?  :P
23:53 * jojoa1997 peeks in
23:53 * jojoa1997 needs to stop picking up stuff from other people
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