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00:06 VanessaE Pilcrow: at this time of night it tends to go quiet
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00:08 Inocudom The experimental mapgen mod has many features that I hope will make it into mapgen v7 one day.
00:10 VanessaE who knows...maybe
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00:17 Peacock kaeza, i think i found a way to do geoip locally on server host machine
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00:22 kaeza hm?
00:26 iqualfragile Inocudom: link?
00:27 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263 (this is the link)
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00:29 Inocudom The features of this mod will make the base game more interesting.
00:31 iqualfragile i like those new mods
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00:35 Inocudom Has anybody ever tested the lulzpack mod?
00:35 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3907 (link to the mod)
00:36 Evergreen I tried, but it didn't even generate a world
00:37 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=111558#p111558
00:37 VanessaE opinions needed.
00:37 VanessaE (not related to Inocudom's link)
00:37 Inocudom Why does lulzpack need to be an actual game? Why not just a modpack? If people tested and commented on the mod more often, it might end up better in the end.
00:40 Inocudom If the two maps are combined, then there would need to be two player classes. Creative mode players would have to be incapable of dropping anything or putting anything in a chest.
00:41 Inocudom Survival mode players would work as normal, though they should not be able to build in the creative zone, nor should creative players be able to build in the survival zone.
00:42 Inocudom Once a player decides to be creative or survival, the decision is permanent for all eternity.
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00:44 jojoa1997 who made the mg mod
00:44 VanessaE Inocudom: write your opinions on the forum post plz
00:44 VanessaE jojoa1997: nore
00:45 PilzAdam and sfan5
00:45 jojoa1997 thanks
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00:49 Inocudom I wrote them in a post in the topic.
00:51 jojoa1997 Incondium what opinions
00:51 Inocudom The mod below might be of great help concerning the server:
00:51 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5545
00:51 VanessaE G*d damn it
00:52 jojoa1997 waht mod is it
00:52 VanessaE stupid forum bug shows part of an old poll on the creative server's page now
00:52 VanessaE (I tried to add a simple yes/no/undecided, but it has answers from an OLLLLD poll from when I proposed the map reset on that server)
00:52 VanessaE Inocudom: oooohhh
00:52 jojoa1997 there should be a setting to delete polls
00:53 jojoa1997 waht mod is it?
00:53 Inocudom Priviledge Areas
00:53 jojoa1997 oh yeah i like that
00:53 VanessaE too bad there isn't a "creative" privilege
00:53 zat1 Someone knows of a mod that lets invalid commands pass as messages? This is happening to me now and I have too many mods to try disabling one by one.
00:54 jojoa1997 especially the idea of gravity in certain areas(especially since i failed at making a mod like that months ago)
00:56 Inocudom Taoki (MirceaKitsune) is here with us?
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00:58 Inocudom Has Taoki seen the experimental mapgen (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263) yet?
00:58 VanessaE yep, already played a bit with it
00:59 Inocudom How would it be if mapgen v7 had those features?
01:00 VanessaE dunno, I haven't played with it enough to decide
01:00 VanessaE and I'never used mgv7 myself
01:00 VanessaE I've*
01:08 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo did a video of my creations on Redcrab's server recently. Below is the link to the video:
01:09 Inocudom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVN4p​3L1gtc&list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4m​HVzA&feature=player_detailpage
01:10 kaeza VanessaE, do you have a link to your updated colors.txt for the mapper handy?
01:11 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/va​nessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt
01:11 kaeza thanks :)
01:11 VanessaE support for streets and stained glass is out of date though
01:11 Evergreen Ahouldn't be too hard to update it though
01:11 Evergreen *Shouldn't
01:15 Sokomine hi?
01:16 VanessaE should be easy
01:16 VanessaE I'm just lazy :P
01:16 VanessaE hi
01:16 kaeza http://kaeza.mooo.com/minetest-map/map.png
01:16 Pilcrow off to play some minetest  :)
01:20 Evergreen kaeza: Is your server in your house?
01:21 kaeza maybe, maybe not
01:21 kaeza probably not
01:22 kaeza why?
01:28 Peacock sweet, the serverside geoip works :-)
01:28 kaeza great :D
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01:30 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/YFMZl9J.png
01:30 VanessaE heh, cute
01:31 NekoGloop NEKOGIGAS :3
01:35 Peacock 45 minutes till Breaking Bad :D
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01:44 Inocudom I still like to play the multiplayer fps game Red Eclipse, but the game does not have custom player model support.
01:44 Inocudom Doesn't seem like anybody has ever made a mod to do that either.
01:46 Inocudom It seems odd that absolutely none of the players would care about custom model support, but I am a very hard person to surprise, as my current signature states.
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01:50 PilzAdam bye
01:50 Dark_Soul can someone help me?
01:51 Dark_Soul my hoes will not till the dirt
01:52 Peacock try slapping them around
01:52 VanessaE wrong kind of ho(e), Peacock ... :)
01:53 Peacock oups
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02:03 Dark_Soul -.- really
02:04 VanessaE no idea about the problem with the hoes
02:04 VanessaE onyl pilzadam or zeg9 could answer that I guess
02:04 Dark_Soul ok
02:04 VanessaE unless you're just trying to play somewhere where you have no interact privilege
02:05 Dark_Soul no its my own server
02:12 NekoGloop That doesn't neccessarily mean you have interact
02:13 NekoGloop After all, minetest servers are really really stupid
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02:28 Inocudom There is someone else who is starting out with making gameplay videos of Minetest. His name is IrfaanGames and the link to one of his videos is below.
02:29 Inocudom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBKgaRu4R8o
02:30 Dark_Soul im going to start doing that i hope soon
02:30 Inocudom Good idea.
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02:31 Dark_Soul thanks
02:31 Dark_Soul all the ones i have seen are all playing in creative -.-
02:35 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo rarely plays in creative.
02:35 Dark_Soul ok cool
02:36 Dark_Soul VanessaE
02:37 VanessaE hm?
02:38 Dark_Soul do you use linux?
02:38 VanessaE yes
02:38 VanessaE (debian)
02:38 Dark_Soul ok
02:38 Dark_Soul o not the same as mine
02:38 VanessaE doesn't matter much
02:38 VanessaE one's as good as another for most things
02:38 Dark_Soul well i need help seting up a short cut to start my server so i dont have to be on at all times
02:39 Miner_48er restart script
02:39 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/sMqmryGq
02:39 VanessaE modify that to suit your needs.
02:39 VanessaE it's what I use for my servers
02:40 Dark_Soul ok
02:40 Dark_Soul so use the terminal
02:40 VanessaE mmhmm
02:40 VanessaE that's how it's done when you set up a daemon
02:41 Dark_Soul i use the ubunto
02:41 Dark_Soul *ubuntu
02:41 VanessaE ubuntu*
02:41 Dark_Soul lol
02:41 VanessaE ubuntu is debian with a bunch of extra stuff added
02:41 Dark_Soul ok
02:41 VanessaE so, same diff
02:43 Dark_Soul hmmm
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02:46 Dark_Soul .  /home/minetest says no such file
02:46 VanessaE like I said, modify it to suit your system
02:46 VanessaE like where your minetest instance is kept, where your config files are stored, etc.
02:47 Dark_Soul well this is going to be fun (i just got linux this morning) so im new to this
02:50 Miner_48er using a gui or cmdline
02:50 Miner_48er *terminal
02:51 Dark_Soul yes i know that
02:56 Inocudom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH9jG​I1mzSI&feature=player_detailpage​&list=UU9-aSGgj7pVXFEnd-iFzVdA
02:57 Inocudom The world is not a happy place anymore (though it was never meant to be.)
02:58 Miner_48er VanessaE What's the typical # of errors your server has a day?
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02:58 VanessaE Miner_48er: less than 1
02:58 VanessaE Inocudom: oh G*d please not that crap :(
02:59 Miner_48er ERROR[ServerThread] ?
02:59 VanessaE oh, idk.  I don't routinely count such things
02:59 VanessaE but my server rarely crashes anyway
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06:00 sfan5 !title
06:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Signs Of Change The Past Week Or So Sept. 2013 Part 1 - YouTube
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06:01 VanessaE_[T] looked like a religious "end of days" thing
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06:11 [0gb_us] I seem to have some sort of invisible ... something ... at the top of my desktop.
06:11 [0gb_us] When I drag windows, they catch on it, like if there was a panel there.
06:13 VanessaE_[T] weird
06:16 [0gb_us] I also have a new idea I plan to implement: season-specific nodes. You have to obtain them in the correct season, but can build with them any time. Combined with shops, it could mean lucrative business for those with foresight.
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06:17 VanessaE_[T] like perennial flowers or so
06:18 [0gb_us] Yeah. I'm not sure how I want to apply the concept to the flowers yet, but I do want to have some sort of flower type for each season. Trees will be easier, once I figure out the L-system. Saplings will grow into a different form of the tree for each season.
06:18 [0gb_us] For example, flowering trees in spring.
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06:19 [0gb_us] Any tree grown in one season but left alone will keep its original form.
06:20 VanessaE_[T] the old nature mod used to add blossoms to trees
06:20 [0gb_us] Didn't already-grown trees change with the seasons? Mine won't do that.
06:22 VanessaE_[T] nope, not that I know of
06:22 VanessaE_[T] the blossoms just appeared randomly
06:22 [0gb_us] Okay, I must be thinking of a different plugin then. My bad.
06:23 VanessaE_[T] maybe mauv---peacock's seasons mkd
06:23 VanessaE_[T] mod*
06:23 kahrl you mean Khaaaaaaaaan?
06:23 [0gb_us] This one will check the current UNIX time stamp and apply the correct season at growth time. I don't know whether to use northern seasons or southern seasons though ...
06:23 VanessaE_[T] yeah :P
06:24 [0gb_us] Can Windows use UNIX time stamps, or do I need a fallback method for use on WIndows?
06:25 [0gb_us] Hmm. Timestamp isn't what I need anyway. I need a date.
06:25 VanessaE_[T] doubt it.  isn't there a regular time/date function?
06:25 VanessaE_[T] right
06:25 [0gb_us] I know Windows uses dates.
06:25 [0gb_us] A time/date function in Lua?
06:26 kahrl os.time
06:26 VanessaE_[T] yeah
06:26 [0gb_us] Oh, nice. That will make things easier.
06:27 [0gb_us] Now I just need to hope the solstices and equinoxes land on the same dates each year.
06:28 VanessaE_[T] they won't
06:28 [0gb_us] Drats. This will be hard then.
06:28 VanessaE_[T] but do you really want to go THAT long-term?
06:29 [0gb_us] I build to last, yes. Why should I build something that is broken from the start? I might as well not build it at that point.
06:29 [0gb_us] I could round it off, and target by month though, if it comes to it.
06:30 VanessaE_[T] well I'd have suggested that a season only last maybe a week of real time
06:30 [0gb_us] Hmm ... THat would probably be faster in Lua anyway.
06:31 [0gb_us] Oh, nonnonono. That would kill some of the fun. It would also kill most of the business aspect.
06:32 [0gb_us] If you miss the spring nodes, just wait three weeks? That's not all that long.
06:33 [0gb_us] I might align the game clock with GMT as well, but that's more of a server-specific setting that will only apply to my worlds.
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06:34 john_minetest Hello everypony
06:34 VanessaE_[T] hi
06:36 [0gb_us] Then again, a week-by-week seasonal clock would eliminate the northern versus southern hemisphere issues ...
06:36 VanessaE_[T] yup
06:37 [0gb_us] Though that could also be fixed by making the seasons wrong for everyone.
06:37 VanessaE_[T] and j game time, a month is a pretty long time
06:37 VanessaE_[T] s/j/in/
06:39 [0gb_us] Hmm ... I supose a month could be a season. It would be a decent compromise between full-length seasons and overly-short seasons. THough it would also make holiday-related nodes such as jack-o-lanterns make little sense.
06:39 VanessaE_[T] there are 72 game days in a real day so even a week of real time is too long
06:40 [0gb_us] The game days would be lengthened though to real time.
06:40 VanessaE_[T] ehhhh
06:40 john_minetest maybe real time would be nice.
06:41 john_minetest get the real date and set the weather condidtions.
06:41 [0gb_us] My only issue is people in different time zones/hemispheres ...
06:41 john_minetest Or maybe even fetch real weather data and use it :D
06:41 kahrl I remember the day/night feature from the pokemon games. Neat, but probably also a nightmare for parents :D
06:42 [0gb_us] True.
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06:42 john_minetest This one game (can't remember the name but the new one is called "leaf" or something like that) has a real time setting iirc.
06:43 john_minetest So in the night the kids have to sleep because all shops are closed.
06:43 [0gb_us] Meh. I guess jack-o-lanterns three times per real year (and probably not any of those times landing in October wouldn't be SO bad ...
06:43 [0gb_us] Hah, children having to sleep. I bet parents liked that.
06:43 kahrl you could just make up your own holidays that are aligned with the in game year
06:44 john_minetest lol, then bear mobs would only spawn in summer, not in winter except in caves.
06:44 [0gb_us] My own holidays ... That would be fun. But with my low level of creativity, it would take time.
06:45 [0gb_us] I won't be adding mobs, at least until the 2000+ nodes are done.
06:45 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4CQc1MSso
06:45 john_minetest !title
06:45 MinetestBot john_minetest: Van Canto - Last Night of the Kings (Official) - YouTube
06:46 [0gb_us] I think someone linked me to that in the past.
06:46 john_minetest That was me then.
06:46 VanessaE_[T] until entity duplication is fixed, mobs are best done by faking it with nodes :)
06:46 john_minetest I linked various songs of them on various channels so I wasn't sure if I linked this one here yet :D
06:47 [0gb_us] I'm not even sure if I'm going to utilize falling nodes, and I'm almost certain I'll remove the ability to drop items.
06:47 [0gb_us] That'll annoy people. THey'll need chests to do any gifting.
06:49 [0gb_us] Maybe that's too drastic.
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07:07 pitriss hi, please, is there any way how I can make player skin transparent?
07:07 [0gb_us] Yeah, you'll need an image editor to do that. I'd recommend GIMP.
07:08 [0gb_us] If you install GIMP, I can walk you through it, it's an easy proccess.
07:08 [0gb_us] *process
07:09 pitriss I have gimp.. :) I only want to know if it will be working...
07:09 [0gb_us] Okay, yeah, it'll work. Just select the whole image, hit the delete key, then save.
07:10 pitriss so when I leave some space on body transparent, then there will be possible see through player?
07:10 [0gb_us] I believe so, yes.
07:10 pitriss great.. thank you evry much
07:11 [0gb_us] Actually, yeah, I'm positive.
07:11 [0gb_us] No problem.
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08:31 VanessaE_[T] note to self:  tablets are not exactly packed with RAM.
08:32 [0gb_us] What do you mean by that?
08:32 [0gb_us] Never mind, I misread.
08:32 [0gb_us] I thought you said "tables". As in Lua tables.
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08:35 VanessaE_[T] heh
08:36 VanessaE_[T] nope, just lazing in bed, hence the tablet... I go off to look at a neat steampunk keyboard hack and byebye irc...
08:36 kahrl I sometimes pack my kitchen table with ram. It's delicious.
08:37 VanessaE_[T] fricken browser takes up like 350 MB of RAM and I only have 512.
08:37 [0gb_us] Oh, joy.
08:37 VanessaE_[T] don't you mean jam? :)
08:37 kahrl ram with jam
08:37 [0gb_us] I don't get it, VanessaE.
08:38 VanessaE_[T] nevermind. bad joke
08:47 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Checkers Day! :)
08:47 [0gb_us] Happy Checkers Day to you as well. And good night, I'm off to bed.
08:50 VanessaE_[T] hi
08:52 VanessaE_[T] mmmmmm checkers...I could go for some of their fries right about now... ;)
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09:53 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compiling issue of MSVC 9e6bdc377f 2013-09-23T02:51:14-07:00 http://git.io/ao_MnA
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11:13 otak Hi, when trying to place a door in a building mod, server says 'not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air"'
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11:17 otak maybe doors:register_door can work?
11:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:25 otak hi. when I tried doors:register_door the server crashed
11:27 VanessaE hey PilzAdam.
11:27 VanessaE did you depend on doors first?
11:28 VanessaE if you don't and try to use a function from it, most of the time your code will crash
11:28 VanessaE (same is true for all mods)
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11:31 otak do you mean in the depends.txt
11:31 VanessaE yeah
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11:40 otak oh thanks we're trying to understand how to add a door as part of a mod
11:41 VanessaE that's how it works
11:42 VanessaE if you use some others mod's function(s), you must either depend on that mod, or copy its functions into yours and rename and tune them to suit.
11:43 otak actually just wanted to call minetest.env:add_node(<doorname>) but a door is more than one node
11:46 VanessaE right
11:46 VanessaE in which case you have to add both nodes.
11:47 VanessaE check for air or buildable_to in both spaces, then add both nodes one at a tim
11:47 VanessaE tme*
11:47 VanessaE time*****
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11:55 jojoa1997 Hi!
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12:13 jojoa1997 where are biomes defined in the mg mod
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13:13 otak thanks VanessaE we finally managed to put doors on our magic earth towers :D
13:14 VanessaE cool
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13:21 * harrison wakes from the sisyphean rotisserie and begins the grueling ascent to the treadwheel
13:24 harrison http://youtu.be/woWrILbhLVY
13:26 john_minetest harrison: nice
13:26 harrison thank you. the next one will be nicer.
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14:17 Mossmanikin Hi folks
14:19 VanessaE hi
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14:42 john_minetest Hello PilzAdam
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15:31 harrison john_minetest: come back! ops will be yours np!
15:35 Mossmanikin Evergreen: would you like to test if generating is faster now?
15:35 Evergreen Sure
15:36 john_minetest harrison: Oh, I left your channel because I changed location and forgot to re-join all channels
15:36 Mossmanikin nice (need a subjective opinion, so mine doesn't count :D)
15:38 Mossmanikin *objective instead of subjective ;)
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15:43 xiong Near as I can tell, the difference between a sand tube and a mese sand tube is that, for the latter, the radius of effect is adjustable. What's the plain sand tube's radius?
15:43 xiong Um... intended.
15:46 * Evergreen is afk
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15:53 Jordach afternoon
15:53 * Jordach pokes sfan5
15:54 sfan5 how did you know I just returned
15:54 PilzAdam hi Jordach
15:54 Jordach hey PilzAdam
15:54 * Calinou pets sfan5
15:54 Calinou hi
15:54 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Calinou
15:55 * harrison emerges from the pond festooned with duckweed
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16:02 Jordach lol harrison
16:02 Jordach sfan5, any news ;P
16:02 sfan5 no
16:02 sfan5 but what about more buildings?
16:02 Jordach crack a private server up then
16:02 Jordach private != PUBLIC LISTINGS.
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16:04 sfan5 Jordach: why private? use my public one
16:06 harrison what is it called?
16:08 Jordach sfan5, i wanna do private survival with MG
16:08 sfan5 harrison: see the serverlist
16:08 sfan5 Jordach: oh...
16:09 Jordach you know, play with you guys
16:09 Jordach (not like that) :P
16:11 harrison i am not seeing the public serverlist today
16:11 harrison only "favorites" i used before
16:11 sfan5 http://servers.minetest.net/
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16:25 harrison shocking new film btw http://youtu.be/2HLYiPb9gww
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16:28 proller harrison, what kind of drugs you use ?
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16:28 Calinou he uses mese
16:28 rubenwardy Hi all!
16:28 Calinou hi rubenwardy
16:30 rubenwardy waz up minetest bitches?@
16:30 harrison proller: not even nsaids i am sorry to say
16:31 harrison i fear being a genius takes so much time that i forget to relax and have fun and take drugs
16:31 harrison why, what do you suggest?
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16:52 Mossmanikin VanessaE: thanks for the idea to trigger on tree trunks instead of the ground, result looks much better :)
16:56 john_minetest http://youtu.be/2HLYiPb9gww
17:00 Mossmanikin Somehow fits to the sound of Prodigy
17:05 harrison Prodigy? you are remixing it? or you think that is prodigy?
17:06 Mossmanikin No, watching the vid, listening to the prodigy
17:06 harrison oh, very good then. carry on
17:06 harrison that falls under "remixing"
17:07 Mossmanikin yeah, only there's no record ;)
17:09 sfan5 !TITLE
17:09 sfan5 !title
17:09 MinetestBot sfan5: festooned with duckweed - YouTube
17:10 PilzAdam note to self: sfan5 cant write ! without activating capslock :-p
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17:10 sfan5 PilzAdam: this is what happend when I press the key for ! with capslock: 1
17:10 sfan5 happens*
17:10 john_minetest My lenovo can do it, too while my inspiron 17 can't
17:11 john_minetest 1TITLE
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17:12 john_minetest hi OldCoder
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17:16 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi!
17:16 OldCoder john_minetest, indicate your schedule in PM sometime
17:16 sfan5 hi OldCoder
17:16 OldCoder sfan5, hi too!
17:16 OldCoder I built the latest 0.4.7 upstream
17:17 OldCoder And I am updating mods. I figure I will need help to convert worlds.
17:17 OldCoder Can't do this during the day; I am at work
17:17 sfan5 convert worlds?
17:18 sfan5 I thought you do know how to use the migrate feature
17:18 sfan5 "minetestserver <every flag you use normally> --migrate <new_backend>"
17:20 OldCoder sfan5, no; I am referring to the mods
17:20 OldCoder sfan5, most of the worlds have game zips with mods that will no longer work
17:20 PilzAdam sfan5, AFAIK he already has leveldb worlds
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17:21 OldCoder I need to find out which mods to keep, which to drop, and which to replace with whose versions
17:21 sfan5 I'm always available to help you
17:21 OldCoder Different people have taken over different mods; if a server maintainer wishes to preserve old worlds it is a bit of a mess. But we will proceed. Thank you!
17:21 OldCoder I will be working on this most weekends and some weekday evenings.
17:22 OldCoder I wish to preserve the old worlds, merge some of them into one, and run all of the new stuff
17:25 babyface1031 i can help with what i can OldCoder
17:26 OldCoder babyface1031, Oh yes; thanks. It will not happen immediately. But once it is done the worlds should be ready for future updates.
17:26 babyface1031 ok take your time
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17:31 john_minetest iirc there is now a mod manager in the client
17:32 Mossmanikin preserving old stuff is a good thing, hated how it was almost impossible to do such a thing during the development of mc
17:33 sfan5 ^
17:33 john_minetest btw, the mod manager nearly crashes. It hangs and takes ages to load
17:33 PilzAdam for some reason it downloads a lot of data
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17:47 Jordach called your mom
17:48 Calinou os.call("your_mom")
17:48 Mossmanikin :D
17:49 Calinou hi Mossmanikin :P
17:51 Mossmanikin Calinou: Hi Calinou :D
17:52 Mossmanikin Jordach, in case you called my mom, you helped to educate her?
17:53 john_minetest Does anybody here want to create some GTA map in minetest?
17:53 john_minetest I want to but not alone
17:55 Jordach plol
17:55 Jordach Mossmanikin, <PilzAdam> for some reason it downloads a lot of data <Jordach> called your mom
17:55 Mossmanikin lol
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18:02 Mossmanikin Ok, ... finished laughing... Adam & my mom ... why not? Adam seems to be a clever guy, worth a try
18:02 john_minetest Anybody wants to join me to rebuild a GTA map with several mods?
18:03 Jordach nope
18:03 Jordach i'd rather rebuild London
18:04 Jordach or even the German capital (idk the name)
18:04 Calinou build paris!
18:04 * Calinou gallops away
18:04 Mossmanikin half of germans don't
18:04 Pelayo_ and then invade it
18:04 Mossmanikin ;)
18:05 * Jordach pokes sfan5
18:09 john_minetest I don't really care which city.
18:09 john_minetest Jordach: Do you want to join me? :)
18:09 Jordach GTA IS OVERRATED
18:09 Jordach SAINTS ROW 4 FTW
18:09 sfan5 hag
18:09 sfan5 *heh
18:10 john_minetest Yeah. Everybody says that the cars in GTA are so cool. In SRIV you never use a car :D
18:10 Jordach i'd rather use fast around the streets with a dubstep gun
18:10 john_minetest Oh yeah.
18:10 john_minetest Or some... strange... gun from a DLC.
18:10 john_minetest Like gronkh (german Let's player) does.
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19:05 Jordach hey PilzAdam, i've got different weapons in OpenSpades
19:06 Jordach namely ak-47, Ballista (iron sights) and a spas12
19:07 PilzAdam just different skins?
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19:10 john_minetest Changing weapons in openspades is a pain
19:11 Jordach_ not if you have the windows Slab6 editor :3
19:11 Jordach_ actually; i've worked how it does the reloads and shit
19:12 Jordach_ see magazine.kv6? and the no magazine.kv6 models?
19:12 Jordach_ it switches the models and adds a magazine entity then switches round when reloaded
19:13 xiong Where we're going, we don't need roads.
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19:27 PilzAdam spam: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=111662#p111662
19:32 john_minetest xiong: From which movie is that?
19:33 john_minetest oh, found it.
19:35 john_minetest It is from the one Back to the Future when they fly away
19:39 john_minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1IqqlW1U4k
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19:42 zat Someone knows if it is possible, with WorldEdit, to stack regions ignoring air or specified blocks?
19:44 xiong BttF II.
19:45 xiong Erm, sorry; end of I.
19:45 xiong Needless to say, easy to get confused about time in that series.
19:46 xiong The DeLorean comes back equipped with antigravity, hence no need for roads. Also a Mr. Fusion with an input hopper that looks suspiciously like a blender from some "decor" outfit.
19:47 xiong So where they're going, they also don't need split-second timing to catch a once-in-a-lifetime lightning bolt. They do, though, still need 88 MPH.
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19:57 kaeza afternoons
19:57 Calinou hi
19:57 zat Someone knows if it is possible, with WorldEdit, to stack regions ignoring air or specified blocks?
19:57 zat (I repeat so keaza can read)
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19:58 kaeza zat, kaeza*, and no idea, sorry
20:00 kaeza one way would be creating layers of gravel or sand high up, and letting them fall, then doing a //replace to the desired node
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20:03 kaeza [16:59:50] <Server> *** lecacasesdelicieux left the game
20:03 kaeza :I
20:03 Calinou lol
20:03 Calinou "ses" is incorrect here
20:04 kaeza Calinou, cacas (plural)
20:04 kaeza though I guess "le" is incorrect there
20:04 kaeza "the shits are delicious" O_o
20:04 Calinou it is
20:04 Calinou correct
20:05 Jordach_ OH GOD
20:06 zat1 that player was in my server a couple hours ago
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20:13 zat1 thats scat
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20:29 Peacock kaeza> [16:59:50] <Server> *** lecacasesdelicieux
20:29 Peacock had him/her too, told him to eat shit and banned him lol
20:30 kaeza huehuehue
20:31 john_minetest Gramattically correct it should be "lescacassontdelicieux" or "lecacaestdelicieux"
20:31 kaeza I took my serv off the public server list for that reason
20:31 john_minetest And I wrote grammatically wrong.
20:31 kaeza too many assholes connecting :/
20:31 john_minetest kaeza: How many people are on your server atm?
20:31 kaeza 1
20:31 andersje my youngest kid was playing with minecraft this weekend, and I have to say my impression of minecraft is:  wow is it slow (compared to minetest) and WOW is it hard to connect to multiplayer servers.
20:32 andersje usually I find that the closed-source incarnation of a product type is easier to use.  Not in this case.
20:32 kaeza john_minetest, I prefer 2 legit players to 400 griefers/assholes/annoying kids
20:32 Calinou I read "incarceration"
20:33 Calinou andersje: it's not much harder, there is just no public list
20:33 Calinou MC isn't that slow these days, especially with optifine
20:33 john_minetest kaeza: I only want to know how many players are there, when there are some I would join.
20:33 Calinou but it is getting slower than before :P
20:33 kaeza john_minetest, currently, there's 2
20:34 kaeza well, 1, one timed out
20:34 Peacock kaeza: lol ironically, when my serverside geoip detects a BR, it messages him 'huehuehue' right before banning :P
20:34 john_minetest Lol, just trying to connect to minetest servers with ncat without knowing the protocol.
20:34 kaeza Peacock, hah!
20:34 john_minetest kaeza: Can you give me your server IP/name?
20:34 john_minetest plz
20:34 zat1 Peacock: is there a problem with brs?
20:34 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com
20:34 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (208ms)
20:35 john_minetest I like ncat although I have no clue how to use it.
20:35 Peacock well *i* have a problem with BRs, dont know about other servers
20:35 zat1 What would it be your problem? just to know.
20:36 Peacock constant incessant griefing, speaking portuguese while obviously understanding english, etc.
20:36 andersje Calinou: I couldn't get the java client to connect to a multi-player server until linux at all.  Had to reboot into win7 to get it going.
20:37 Peacock kaeza also thinking of pulling off public list
20:37 andersje Calinou: I was also getting about 5 fps in a GTX460, on a quad-core phenom, even in fullscreen mode.
20:37 Calinou works for me :P
20:37 Calinou disable compositing/desktop effects
20:37 Calinou were you using nouveau or the nvidia driver?
20:37 andersje nvidia driver
20:37 Calinou that's probably not intended then
20:37 zat1 Peacock: That you do not tolerate other languages is “understandable”, but saying that because of being BRs they are griefers is just plain discriminatory.
20:37 Calinou graphics card temperature is too high maybe
20:37 andersje it's moot now, since multiplayer works in windows, so the kid will be booting into win7 now
20:38 andersje no, it's in range.  sub70C
20:38 andersje and this is a rig which routinely posts 30+ fps in minetest.
20:38 andersje I blame java+ubuntu
20:38 * andersje tends to blame java for all things
20:38 Calinou 30 FPS on a 460? that's low
20:38 Peacock call it whatever the fuck you want lol i havent seen a single BR ip on my server that didn't grief
20:38 andersje 30+ -- it never drops below 30 on that rig.
20:39 andersje it's a minimal little machine in need of an upgrade.  quad-core phenom, gtx460, (or is it gt460)...acer slimline model
20:39 Calinou I never drop below 60 on a 570
20:39 Calinou it's gtx460
20:39 Calinou and I have AA, AF, view distance 128, 1920×1080
20:40 andersje it may be a gt430
20:40 zat1 Peacock: you are the one just trying to justify your ignorance.
20:40 andersje hold on, maybe my wife left the machine on, I'll check
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20:40 andersje nah, she turned it off.
20:40 Peacock yeah ive seen that argument in other threads for other games lol
20:41 Peacock fact is, my server, my bandwidth, and i can take whatever steps i want to reduce my admin overhead
20:41 zat1 you dont say
20:41 john_minetest kaeza: Can you please grant me interact on your server? I am "john" there.
20:42 Peacock beside, there are at least one or two brazilian servers, if thats how they like to play they should stick to it
20:42 babyface1031 john_minetest, as soon as the server catches up you should have interact
20:42 andersje Calinou: it's an asus ENGT430 -- geforce 430 -- one of the only cards I could find that didn't overtax the powersupply in that box
20:42 Calinou lol, 430
20:42 Calinou gtg, night :P
20:43 zat1 Peacock: I don’t really care about your arrogant intolerant arguments, I don’t need more explanations, thanks.
20:44 Peacock stay the eff off my server and you wont have to put up with it :-)
20:45 zat1 you can be sure of that
20:45 andersje wow, zat1.  Why not just spin up your own server?
20:45 andersje I mean, it's free.  It's not worth getting upset about.
20:46 zat1 andersje: I have my own server.
20:46 zat1 And it is not an intolerant one ;)
20:46 andersje so why do you care if you're on his?
20:46 andersje oh, he's blocking brazilian IPs.
20:46 andersje yeah, my mailserver dumps all email from brazil too.  Too much spam.
20:46 andersje taiwan gets dumped, too
20:47 kaeza zat1, tell me again after you've been struck by a wave of 10 br users griefing all over the place :)
20:47 zat1 wow I see many homophobic people around here
20:47 PilzAdam zat1, Peacock is not ingorant at all; he just noticed that all connections from BR are griefers
20:47 Peacock i worked in a convenience store for 3 years, and every time a hood got caught shoplifting, they bitched about racial profiling, so that bullshit wore thin with me a long time ago
20:47 zat1 xenophobic
20:47 zat1 damn corrector
20:48 Peacock naw, xenophobic would be only allowing connections from Canada
20:48 Peacock some of my best builders are german, asian and american
20:48 andersje I'm not homophobic.
20:48 andersje nor am I brazilianphobic
20:48 andersje I have nothing against the people of brazil.
20:48 kaeza zat1, it's not xenophobic, it's just trying to keep the server clean
20:49 zat1 “Blocking all traffic from Brazil because all are griefers”, is xenophobic discrimination
20:49 andersje *pfft*
20:49 andersje I reject your argument
20:49 PilzAdam zat1, no, its observaation
20:49 PilzAdam -a
20:49 zat1 really bad observation
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20:49 zat1 the argument of the lazy admin
20:49 Peacock it's xenophobic to notice every single connection from Brazil requires an active admin nearby?
20:49 andersje dude, I don't allow ssh traffic from south america or asia, either
20:50 zat1 Peacock: it is just your (and a couple others) opinion.
20:50 andersje a) I have no authorized users there, b) too many brute force breakin attempts.
20:50 andersje am I xenophobic because of that?
20:50 Peacock an opinion can't be backed by facts, i got logs
20:50 zat1 SSH is not a free protocol to play games
20:50 PilzAdam zat1, what would you do if all the connections from one country to your server are griefers?
20:50 zat1 Probably let the mods DO THEIR JOB?
20:51 kaeza pfft
20:51 PilzAdam so you need always people arround that can ban them
20:51 PilzAdam you sir, have a lot of freetime
20:51 zat1 So far all people from USA I have known are plain ignorant and dumb, not for that I reject to chat with an USAn when I meet them.
20:51 Peacock yeah well i can't be watching brazilians 24/7, at least with the rest of my players i can make dinner instead of shutting down the server
20:51 andersje zat1:  if that's the case, I'd recommend you block chat traffic from the USA
20:51 andersje I, for instance, don't talk with people from the Deep South
20:52 andersje (e.g. Alabama)
20:52 andersje I have too many cousins there.
20:52 Peacock zat1 now that's what i'd call a generalization, one most of your fellow brazilians share, which is probably they dont have much respect for other servers and their admins
20:53 zat1 fellow brazilian?
20:53 zat1 fellow?
20:53 andersje zat1:  if it makes you feel any better, I banned my youngest son for a month once, because he was griefing too much.
20:53 Peacock i figured the way youre taking this dicussion that you are one
20:53 Peacock (or know some)
20:53 zat1 It just shocks me to see so simple minded “admins” over here.
20:54 zat1 Peacock: I have three good players that are Brazilian, in my server.
20:54 Peacock yeah well, when we get paid to put up with this bullshit, we'll do it fulltime, until then, we don't put up with what we don't have to
20:54 andersje some of the best BF3 players I've worked with are brazilian.  I'd totally let them on a BF3 server I was running.
20:55 andersje world of tanks, too
20:55 Peacock 3 good ones is already better than the 5 or 6 that show up at the same time on mine destroying everything in spawn
20:55 * andersje migrates home
20:56 PilzAdam zat1, its not about the nationlity of the people that are behind the connections
20:56 Peacock and legit players complain because absolutely everything has to be node-protected
20:56 zat1 And I am Chilean, anyway... it just shocks me to see how many European/USAns think that South America and Asia are synonymous of spam/thieves/etc/nonculture. And I say USAns because America is the name of a continent, not a country.
20:56 PilzAdam its just a fact that all connections from BR to Peacock's server are griefers
20:56 PilzAdam and "America" is not a name of a contintent; there are "North America" and "South America"
20:57 kaeza PilzAdam, +1
20:57 Peacock did i say south america?
20:57 Peacock kaeza's from south america and i wouldn't ban him
20:57 Peacock two relatives in peru, one more in mexico
20:58 PilzAdam zat1, I guess you already heard of proxies; its possible that the griefers are canadian and use brazilian proxies
20:58 Peacock pilzadam apart from grog and uberi, i dont know any other canadians here :P
20:58 Peacock MC tends to be more popular since you can play it on xbox
20:59 Peacock though if they were proxies, would they geolocate to small towns in brazil? i'd think it be in the big cities
20:59 zat1 PilzAdam: It is a name of a continent, the north part I can call it North America, the south part I can call it South America. The country was called The United States of America, which means it is inside America, and not that America belongs to them. The first time America was used to refer to a land was circa 1500, the first time spanish people needed to name the new continent, and only the south part was called America. Just that.
21:00 PilzAdam no
21:00 PilzAdam there is no contintent called "America"
21:00 PilzAdam such thing doesnt exist
21:00 zat1 Oh god... a little but of literature doesn't bite.
21:01 Peacock if anything, America is a stand-in for USA, the continent is North America
21:01 PilzAdam according to wikipedia, "America" refers usually to the USA or the landmass consisting of North and South America
21:02 PilzAdam since "America" is not the name of a specific contintent, it is totally valid to call the USA america
21:02 zat1 Yes, USAns like to call it Americas instead of America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
21:02 Peacock heck my little corner of the continent went from being New France, to British North America, to finally North America (Can & US)
21:03 PilzAdam but that isnt subject of the discussion
21:03 zat1 But, just check where it links the link to Spanish (Español) language of that article.
21:03 zat1 “América”
21:03 PilzAdam we were talking about zat1 who thinks that rangebans are racism
21:03 Peacock well i've had that argument chucked at me a few times over that lol
21:04 Peacock its like accusing someone of being racist because they won't park their car in the Bronx
21:05 zat1 Making fun of an argument using a stupid one, wont make you right, sorry.
21:05 PilzAdam it doesnt make me wrong either
21:05 PilzAdam I just wanted to bring you into a position to explain your point
21:07 zat1 I did already, banning a whole country because you have decided, based on your narrow experience, that they are all *whatever* is just an ignorant and simple/lazy minded argument.
21:07 Peacock because im North American and i should bend over and never learn :P
21:08 PilzAdam you dont ban "a country", you can connections from a country
21:08 Peacock define narrow experience, I geoip all incoming connections, have been for a month, a clear pattern emerged
21:08 PilzAdam there is a difference in it
21:09 zat1 Peacock: Narrow: Only yours and perhaps of some known people.
21:09 Peacock you mean other server admins?
21:09 Peacock cuz when i started dealing with the problem, they started appearing on kaeza's server instead
21:10 kaeza zat1, do you have any experience on the subject?
21:10 kaeza I mean, being invaded by griefers that all come from certain location?
21:11 zat1 kaeza: I have experience on sysadmining clusters of many servers (most emails), rather that gaming.
21:11 PilzAdam that doesnt answer his question
21:11 zat1 And when, for example, most of the spams originates from a country, I work on improving the filters, not on banning messages coming from that country.
21:12 kaeza zat1, the first step on filtering is filtering all incoming traffic
21:12 PilzAdam and what about locations where _only_ spam/griefing comes from?
21:12 Peacock so what, you'd have be node protect everything because they can't read "NO GRIEF"
21:12 Peacock *have me
21:12 kaeza you then improve the filters to filter particular incoming traffic
21:13 Peacock then all my other players suffer because i have to approve each area
21:13 kaeza in this case, the "whole filter" is banning aconnections from a country
21:13 kaeza -a
21:13 thexyz just look at the serverlist
21:14 zat1 Peacock: 1° there are no regions where people with legitimate messages dont exists but exists only computers who send mass spam. 2° not everybody understands what grief means (I did not in the beginning), and do not expect it either from people that doesn’t speak English.
21:14 Peacock i for one, wont nail down every chair and coaster because certain gamers can't follow the rules, id rather just cut them out and keep it fun for everybody else
21:14 thexyz #1 server: "Tiricopolis Brasil 1.1" #3 server: "DragonBornB ServerBR"
21:15 Peacock zat1, im not talking about 1-time griefers, they come back multiple times day, every day, the same towns and ip ranges
21:15 zat1 If you cannot give a message correctly to all the possible audience in *the Internet* it is probably fault of your media and not fault of the audience so I do not think you should punish the audience that DOES NOT SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE only because they want to play.
21:15 Peacock well you don't go on an english server if you can't understand the rules in english, duh
21:16 zat1 That is what bans exists for
21:16 zat1 but not rage bans based on location
21:16 Peacock i dont see the difference if the end result is the same
21:16 zat1 I am not really happy when I cannot visit certain web servers of idiots who thinks no legitimate web traffic originates from South America.
21:16 thexyz I think this discussion is unhealthy and we should stop it.
21:17 kaeza ^
21:17 Peacock wether i ban every BR address after each grief or ban them all preemptively, it amounts to the same
21:17 thexyz this is not related to Minetest in general so you can as well discuss this in private chat
21:17 Peacock its going nowhere yeah
21:17 zat1 Right thexyz
21:19 Peacock !seen thefamilygrog66
21:19 MinetestBot Peacock: thefamilygrog66 was last seen at 2013-09-22 04:18:33 UTC on #minetest
21:19 zat1 Just to leave it here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia​/commons/c/c0/Waldseemuller_map_2.jpg
21:20 Peacock shit and i just missed him on my server lol
21:20 zat1 First time the name America was used to refer to the new continent...
21:20 zat1 and what a fail of a continent shape
21:22 Peacock Africa, China and Australia don't look quite right either
21:22 zat1 Right, but America IS the worst
21:22 zat1 looks like a piece of poop
21:23 kaeza lel
21:24 Peacock not entirely sure central Europe has two giant seas in it either
21:25 Peacock and Japan seems a little big, if that is supposed to be Japan
21:26 pitriss Peacock: I just want to express my support to you.. because I have simmilar expreience about brazilians from lot of games.. And to be not so generalizing, yes, I know 1 person from brasil who was great player of auteria
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21:36 Peacock anyone who wants it : http://pastebin.com/NfwsJS7X
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22:21 john_minetest Minetest annoys me a bit. Trying to ncat it without knowing the protocol and it changes the port every login.
22:21 john_minetest gtg, cya
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22:22 Peacock the port field in the menu? mine changes too :/
22:23 PilzAdam I guess he means that the singleplayer port is randomly choosen
22:23 VanessaE hi
22:23 Peacock well even the server tab, i type 30001, then when i click on the map, it changes back to 30K
22:23 Peacock thats how i get random people on my test maps lol
22:24 Peacock howdy v
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22:50 pitriss please is there any simple way (some mod etc) how to get basic info from mt server? I mean, number of connected players, max player cap, who is connected..
22:51 NekoGloop ?server
22:51 NekoGloop ... gah, what's that command
22:52 kaeza /status
22:52 NekoGloop Eeh, I meant the mt server status command
22:54 pitriss ah.. i meant from outside.. to use for monitoring purposes, showing on website.. sorry for confusion
22:55 Peacock lol they wanna open up private drunk tanks in britain where you have to pay to get out - thats fucked up lol
22:56 iqualfragile_ Peacock: yes it is, and its allso old news
22:56 Peacock just made it's way to the AP now lol
22:56 iqualfragile_ pitriss: no, i do not think there is any interface to get server statistics
22:56 iqualfragile_ the only thing there is is the masterserver
22:56 Peacock but what happens if you dont have the 400 pounds? do they keep you locked up?
22:57 iqualfragile_ they cant
22:57 iqualfragile_ they are not allowed to
22:57 Peacock that would amount to debtors' prison basically
22:57 iqualfragile_ (at least if the laws in gb are at least a litle bit simlar to german laws)
22:58 pitriss iqualfragile_: ah.. and is there any simple way how to create own masterserver? is code somewehere on github?
22:58 iqualfragile_ they are not the police, so they can not hold you
22:58 iqualfragile_ pitriss: yes, the code is on github
22:58 iqualfragile_ i think its in the minetest repository, serach for it
22:58 Peacock heck even security guards here are limited in how much force theyre allowed to use
22:59 Peacock though in Canada we're usually thankful if people walk home (if even on their hands and knees) rather than take the car
22:59 iqualfragile_ pitriss: https://github.com/minetest/mi​netest/tree/master/util/master
22:59 pitriss iqualfragile_: thanks:) i will look on it:)
23:00 iqualfragile_ oh, you can get into serious trouble in germany if you drive drunk
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23:00 Peacock here too, unless youre a diplomat
23:00 iqualfragile_ (even thought we do not have speed limits and love to drink, we do not mix it ;))
23:00 Peacock heck with how much we freeze our asses off, we love to drink too lol but usually at home (can't even smoke in pubs anymore, alot of bars are dieing)
23:01 Peacock *dying?
23:01 NekoGloop dying, mhm
23:01 Peacock (and i thought dying was the process of coloring fabric lol)
23:02 iqualfragile_ yeah, confuses me, too
23:02 iqualfragile_ its the same in germany (well te non-smoking thing)
23:02 kaeza Peacock, Jebus dyed for our sins!
23:02 Peacock next year they want to ban smoking on terraces/patios
23:02 iqualfragile_ and i think its a good idea, because its saves the nonsmokers from poisoning
23:02 iqualfragile_ but peoplo still drink their beers in bars
23:03 Peacock i dont deny the health benefits, but i tend to think it's up to the business owner to decide what kind of clientele/business he/she wants
23:03 Peacock here its kinda iffy, you can get a sixpack for 6$, or a single serving beer for 3-4$ in a bar, so guess what happens :P
23:04 iqualfragile_ :D
23:04 iqualfragile_ your beer is expensive
23:04 Peacock fuck yeah, you dont wanna see what wine costs lol
23:04 Peacock though to balance things out, weed is cheaper here than elsewhere lol
23:05 Peacock (which doesn't do me much good anymore)
23:05 iqualfragile_ we are allready angry if it costs more then 1,40€ per glass
23:05 Peacock shit lol
23:05 Peacock and in GB, they have a law about the size of a pint if im not mistaken
23:06 iqualfragile_ in germany we have a "reinheitsgebot" which tells you what you are allowed to put into beer
23:07 Peacock not sure bout all the laws here, but i know they have to put the % on the label
23:07 Peacock in the states they dont put them on all the bottles, so we look like alocoholics everytime we shop there for booze and ask how much lol
23:08 Peacock though, 4% beer does taste like pisswater lol
23:08 iqualfragile_ so every traditional german beer consists of water, yeast, malt and hops
23:09 iqualfragile_ and only that
23:09 Peacock each one, or is it multiple choice?
23:09 iqualfragile_ the differences in taste are created by the production methods and the % of those ingrediences
23:10 iqualfragile_ you are free to use as many of those ingrediences as you want
23:10 iqualfragile_ but you may not use anything else
23:10 Peacock cuz we have all sorts of different beers, for a while i liked beer "sur lie" not sure the english term
23:10 PilzAdam you are actually allowed to make beer of other things in germany now
23:11 PilzAdam restricting the ingredients is dissalowed by the EU
23:11 iqualfragile_ "traditional"
23:11 PilzAdam oh right, thats different
23:11 Peacock traditional yeah, thats like the French and cheese names i think
23:11 Peacock or is it wine names/regions?
23:11 PilzAdam the EU protects names of traditional food, e.g. Pizza Magharita
23:12 iqualfragile_ the taste of beer is not proportional to the amount of alcohol it contains
23:12 iqualfragile_ but proportional to the distance from cologne
23:12 Peacock us it goes anywhere from 4 to 11% lol
23:12 Peacock some of my favorites http://planete.qc.ca/nettie/​images//bouffe/Verres01.jpg
23:13 Peacock i used to have all the glasses too, until the wife touched them lol
23:16 Peacock i think thats all microbrew anyway, the imports cost nearly twice as much
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23:38 Peacock is there a map_meta example somewhere, im looking for the options to enable flolands
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23:52 PilzAdam Peacock, editing map_meta is the wrong way
23:52 Peacock well i checked out the mod, the post said flolands was builtin?
23:53 PilzAdam they are in the indev mapgen
23:53 Peacock ah lol
23:53 PilzAdam you can set that in minetest.conf
23:54 Peacock but i only wanted it for one map though, will it affect all?
23:54 iqualfragile_ yes
23:54 Peacock crap
23:54 iqualfragile_ but you can turn it off before you load another map
23:54 Peacock so im better off with the mod then
23:54 Peacock i thought i had to add flolands to mg_flags
23:55 PilzAdam no
23:55 PilzAdam it will only affect worlds that are created while the setting is set
23:56 * iqualfragile_ is sorry for spreading false information
23:56 PilzAdam to be more precise: worlds that are first started
23:56 Peacock so i turn it on, create a map, and turn it off, and ill have one map with flolands and the other unaffected?
23:56 PilzAdam yes
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23:57 PilzAdam create and start at least once, then you can do whatever you want to the setting
23:57 Peacock hm, allright thanks ill give that a shot
23:57 * iqualfragile_ too
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23:58 iqualfragile_ arsdragonfly: you there?
23:58 kahrl hmmmm made a menu that makes setting mapgen params easier
23:58 Peacock i also gambit's mockups
23:59 iqualfragile_ i allso pizza
23:59 Peacock though just to be clear, i can't add flolands to a pre-existing map then right?
23:59 iqualfragile_ correct
23:59 PilzAdam well, you can, but its not recommended
23:59 iqualfragile_ well… you can… basicly if you hack around a bit
23:59 Peacock hm :/ i wanted to add those to my server and use them for freebuild

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