| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
NekoGloop |
Trying to place fire causes the player to die? |
| 00:00 |
Peacock |
dieing brings them back to spawn, no point |
| 00:01 |
Uberi |
no, it teleports them into the far lands and builds a house made of lava around them |
| 00:01 |
Peacock |
they get jailed by the server after x attempts at griefing |
| 00:01 |
Uberi |
and that becomes their spawn |
| 00:01 |
Uberi |
and the lava is indestructible |
| 00:01 |
Peacock |
x attempts + 5 is autoban |
| 00:01 |
Uberi |
and explodes for no reason |
| 00:02 |
Peacock |
now if i can just get Ride of the Valkyries to play in prison that would be great |
| 00:03 |
Uberi |
noteblocks! |
| 00:03 |
NekoGloop |
We need jukeboxes |
| 00:04 |
Uberi |
pretty sure those are in technic |
| 00:04 |
Megaf |
My server is finally working fine |
| 00:04 |
Peacock |
id need a low quality version of it tho |
| 00:04 |
Peacock |
big sound clips take too long to dl |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
if you put the sounds in $path_share/testsounds/ in the client then you dont need to load it from the server |
| 00:06 |
Peacock |
what about http://soundbible.com/1514-Neighborhood-Dogs-Barking.html ? |
| 00:07 |
hoodedice |
What if the guy in prison makes some sorta stair out of blocks, and gets out? |
| 00:07 |
Exio4 |
or cheats |
| 00:07 |
Peacock |
prison is within nation limits, so protected |
| 00:07 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, um, technic? You mean the uber-bloated mod? |
| 00:07 |
Uberi |
yeah, that's the one |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
its not bloated, but the deps are killer |
| 00:08 |
hoodedice |
hmm :) |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
I mean the one with 128px textures for no damn reason |
| 00:08 |
Exio4 |
being able to fly is actually super-easy |
| 00:08 |
Exio4 |
even without privs eh! |
| 00:08 |
Exio4 |
we need a proper anticheat :( |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
when i see people with fly without privs i just ban them lol |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, we need proper cheats first |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
do you want me to release a cracktest patch? |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
;P |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
you know doing those changes is pretty easy |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
I have a "special" client too :-p |
| 00:10 |
Peacock |
oh yeah, that'll help minetests' popularity </sarcasm> :p |
| 00:10 |
Exio4 |
minetest's |
| 00:10 |
Peacock |
wtv |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
but the people that actually wanna cheat are usually not able to code it |
| 00:10 |
Peacock |
most servers, judging from the threads, already seem unplayable for long periods |
| 00:12 |
Peacock |
when most ppl are already in the habit of backing up daily |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:13 |
Exio4 |
what TP is this? http://i.imgur.com/W2NUdt5.png |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
paramat uses that too |
| 00:14 |
Peacock |
everytime someone says TP, i think of this http://youtu.be/qqaKi9NTzS4 |
| 00:14 |
Exio4 |
!title |
| 00:14 |
MinetestBot |
Exio4: Iam Cornholio i need TP for my BUNGHOLE!! - YouTube |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5355 |
| 00:15 |
PilzAdam |
^ I think its his |
| 00:15 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: i got that image from a comment.. by .. him :P |
| 00:15 |
PilzAdam |
his awesome mapgen screenshots are a good way to advertise TPs |
| 00:16 |
PilzAdam |
he should take money for this ;-) |
| 00:16 |
Exio4 |
haha |
| 00:17 |
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| 00:17 |
Peacock |
with so many ppl requesting textures, we prolly would have to pay someone lol |
| 00:17 |
babyface1031 |
hi everyone :D |
| 00:20 |
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| 00:20 |
Peacock |
mmm, spicy noodles |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
Or you could ask me, I might do some textures. |
| 00:21 |
hoodedice |
If you paid some 5 devs |
| 00:21 |
hoodedice |
Mintest would be 1.0.0 by the end of the year |
| 00:21 |
hoodedice |
:P |
| 00:21 |
Exio4 |
very funny |
| 00:21 |
NekoGloop |
Or at least, 0.5 |
| 00:22 |
* Kacey |
listens to Ride of the Valkaries |
| 00:22 |
Peacock |
well obvs devs need to work to pay shit too lol unless theyre students |
| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
seems like someone paid FF devs a lot ;-) |
| 00:22 |
Kacey |
Valkyries* |
| 00:22 |
Exio4 |
lol PilzAdam |
| 00:22 |
hoodedice |
FF? |
| 00:22 |
Uberi |
firefox |
| 00:22 |
hoodedice |
ooh |
| 00:23 |
hoodedice |
But firefox is something everyone uses |
| 00:23 |
hoodedice |
So more exposure |
| 00:23 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 00:23 |
hoodedice |
More probabilty of open-source lovers working for it |
| 00:23 |
NekoGloop |
everyone has no exceptions. |
| 00:23 |
NekoGloop |
So therefore, you're incorrect. |
| 00:23 |
Peacock |
version numbers go up faster but features come at the same pace lol dont know if thats an improvement |
| 00:23 |
hoodedice |
Most of everyone |
| 00:24 |
hoodedice |
? |
| 00:24 |
Peacock |
firefox 23 -> firefox24 changelog: move close button two pixels to the right |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
2 pixles oO |
| 00:24 |
Peacock |
its a joke :p |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
that would at least 23 -> 25 |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
+be |
| 00:25 |
Peacock |
LOL |
| 00:25 |
hoodedice |
rofl |
| 00:25 |
NekoGloop |
23 -> 24: 1 pixel |
| 00:25 |
hoodedice |
Every third damn day, firefox checks my add-ons |
| 00:25 |
Peacock |
law of inverse relevance i guess, the less you intend to do the more they have to make it look like things are moving |
| 00:26 |
Peacock |
yeah android app updates drove me nuts that way too :P |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
no, you have to use a proper strategy to do such a big change: 23 -> 24: half a pixel, so the users get in touch to the change slowly, and then do the rest in 24 -> 25 |
| 00:27 |
Peacock |
of course by version 25 all the devs will be gone and it will be UI designers handling the whole thing lol |
| 00:27 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: change the default liquid_update |
| 00:28 |
Exio4 |
er, liquid_loop_max |
| 00:28 |
Exio4 |
and liquid_update too |
| 00:28 |
PilzAdam |
liquid_update = 0.4 seems to be a pretty good value |
| 00:29 |
Exio4 |
& liquid_loop_max 2000? |
| 00:29 |
hoodedice |
I think I like SAM v1 more... |
| 00:30 |
Exio4 |
it would be 'half' of the value it was but smoother |
| 00:30 |
NekoGloop |
I think I like pie more. |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
apple pie? |
| 00:32 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, more like 10000 |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
http://www.baked-in.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/American-Pie.jpg |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
so, NekoGloop likes apple pie... |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
:-p |
| 00:33 |
Peacock |
hehe |
| 00:33 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: wut? |
| 00:33 |
NekoGloop |
what...? |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, liquid_loop_max should be raised to 10000 again |
| 00:34 |
Exio4 |
make it 5000 and liquid_update 0.5 |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 00:47 |
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| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: I'm not sure what I'm seeing in that image, maybe let the rest of the map generate around it first? |
| 00:49 |
Kacey |
the whole map is like that... |
| 00:50 |
* Exio4 |
slaps VanessaE |
| 00:50 |
Exio4 |
i' |
| 00:50 |
Exio4 |
i'm leaving when you say hi all |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
like what? that image makes no sense |
| 00:51 |
* VanessaE |
smacks Exio4 back - I just woke up from a nap :P |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
Kacey: press f4 |
| 00:51 |
Kacey |
i deleted that world and made a new one |
| 00:52 |
Kacey |
afk |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
how am I supposed to evaluate a possible mod error if you delete the offending world!? |
| 00:54 |
sokomine |
pilzadam: poor farmers from my world complained that their fields run dry! |
| 00:59 |
sokomine |
hmm |
| 01:01 |
sokomine |
would you accept a village where all houses are lined up on one road and even one side of that road? |
| 01:02 |
jin_xi |
hm, i really would like to be able to use more than 3 materials or 1 angle per "tree" in l-systems... |
| 01:02 |
sokomine |
which kind of tree are you planning? |
| 01:04 |
jin_xi |
i am abusing the l systems to create various structures... |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: you can mitigate the need for multiple angles by just using a very small angle value, enough rotation commands to compensate for it, and some of the less-than-100%-probability rules with more rotate commands. |
| 01:05 |
sokomine |
hm. what kind of structures? currently i'm intrested in rivers. villages need them to run through/close by (difficult to live without water). building one is not that easy |
| 01:05 |
jin_xi |
http://i.imgur.com/qhWjgHq.png here is an example |
| 01:05 |
sokomine |
perhaps l-system might fit there as well |
| 01:06 |
sokomine |
looks nice :-) |
| 01:07 |
jin_xi |
made that 5 months or so ago, just picking it up now... |
| 01:07 |
sokomine |
iirc i've seen a similar picture from you before, yes |
| 01:07 |
sokomine |
would it be possible to use l-system for river generation? |
| 01:07 |
jin_xi |
atm working at treegen tool, another mod noone ever uses |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
I wish someone could go through moretrees and plants_lib and tell me what this bug is that Kacey and at least one other person have mentioned (about trees growing in impassible clumps) |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
because I've never seen it happen on my machine |
| 01:08 |
jin_xi |
rivers? i think so, but im not sure how... |
| 01:09 |
jin_xi |
if the trees are too big they will be cut off, resulting in blocks of wood and leaves |
| 01:09 |
sokomine |
maybe i ought to consult our terrain expert. except that he does much larger systems. what i need is very small-scale river. perhaps a bit random will do. hmm |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: that's a mapgen bug. |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm knows about it |
| 01:10 |
jin_xi |
VanessaE: no, its l systems loading a fixed cube of map data to manipulate |
| 01:10 |
jin_xi |
which happens to be too small for huge trees |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: are you absolutely certain about that? |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
I was under the impression that the issue was a bit different |
| 01:11 |
sokomine |
maybe "huge" in this case means "huger than the hugest moretrees tree" (which would be...hm...hill-like?) |
| 01:11 |
jin_xi |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/treegen.cpp#L121 |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
too bad I couldn't use the vmanip to "pre-load" the terrain around a tree that's about to be built (because then I wouldn't be able to generate anything in the adjacent blocks) |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
hah! |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
"vmanip.*" |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
(it really needs a ~3x4x3 area to handle the very largest trees) |
| 01:13 |
jin_xi |
in my turtle branch i used a dry run to determine and load all the blocks a structure would need |
| 01:13 |
jin_xi |
huge rainbow is an example |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
jin_xi if you could make smaller version (like default) of moretrees that would be cool |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
lately players are moregriefing my map with them lol |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: someone did that already |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
really? |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
forum search is crap then lol |
| 01:15 |
Peacock |
if you dont knwo the precise terms |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, use ixquick.com with "site:forum.minetest.net" |
| 01:16 |
Peacock |
it is faster yeah lol |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5713 |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
I think this was the mod |
| 01:17 |
Kacey |
back |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
I had thought it was bas080's work, guess I was right :-) |
| 01:18 |
Peacock |
there we go! thanks :-) |
| 01:19 |
Peacock |
its not that i dont like the bigtrees, but people build such small things next to them |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:19 |
Peacock |
bungalows everywhere lol |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
too bad so much of my map has already been generated, I'd install this one also |
| 01:19 |
Peacock |
i havent seen anyone do a split-level yet |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
I wish someone would write a tool that'll let me go through a map and delete mapblocks that haven't been built-on yet (in a visual way) |
| 01:20 |
Peacock |
or a chunk delete command (that flags it for ongen) |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
though pretty soon im gonna do a crater mod to get rid of totally griefed freebuild areas lol |
| 01:23 |
Kacey |
http://xkcd.com/1243/ |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
oh my, tiny trees builds them up entirely in Lua, not L-systems |
| 01:24 |
bas080 |
Yes VanessaE, i know. |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
oh hi :-) |
| 01:24 |
bas080 |
hey |
| 01:25 |
babyface1031 |
can anyone tell me what goes in the upgrade slots in the technic mod i havent been able to find the awnser |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
no idea there |
| 01:26 |
sokomine |
iirc there's a mod that supplies smaller moretrees-like trees. it's called "trees" |
| 01:26 |
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| 01:26 |
sokomine |
ah. already done. ought to have continued reading |
| 01:27 |
sokomine |
vanessa: problem is that you need to know if someone has built there |
| 01:30 |
Peacock |
you know what there could be a proverbial market for: limited scope worldedit for regular players |
| 01:32 |
Peacock |
you could have like a protector block where the worldediting only works within range of it |
| 01:34 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103002#p103002 your answer is the ultimate truth so you close the topic because no further questions are needed? |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
I close the topic because the question has been asked a zillion times |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
but unlike *some* people, at least I answered it :P |
| 01:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Offtopic? |
| 01:36 |
* Peacock |
serves popcorn |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
there, re-opened. |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
moved to modding general (except I forgot to turn off that damn checkbox again) |
| 01:37 |
sokomine |
peacock: i asked uberi for that already, and he did something like that :-) it is still experimental |
| 01:37 |
sokomine |
look for worldedit_limited |
| 01:37 |
Peacock |
hm, ill keep an eye on that :-) |
| 01:39 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:41 |
Peacock |
peacock.makeCoffee() |
| 01:44 |
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| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
hey kaeza |
| 01:45 |
Peacock |
peacock.invade('Czechoslovakia') |
| 01:45 |
kaeza |
hai VanessaE |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
<stdin>:1: CountryNotFoundException |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 01:47 |
Peacock |
really? guess i should hold off on my trip to Rhodesia until my geography package maintainer updates it |
| 01:48 |
kaeza |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia |
| 01:48 |
Peacock |
note to self: coffee makers work best when plugged in |
| 01:49 |
kaeza |
HAH |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
moving in two days lol everythings all over the place |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
cant wait to get out of this crappé neighbourhood |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
this idiot revs his engine until half past midnight every night this summer |
| 01:50 |
sokomine |
hope you'll feel more comftable in the new neighbourhood |
| 01:50 |
Peacock |
its the center of town |
| 01:50 |
Peacock |
they usually keep those areas quaint |
| 01:50 |
Peacock |
and quiet |
| 01:51 |
Peacock |
and the rents' high enough to keep certain types out of the area lol |
| 01:52 |
babyface1031 |
hi kaeza |
| 01:53 |
* VanessaE |
warns Peacock against income-based "certain types". |
| 01:53 |
kaeza |
babyface1031 o/ |
| 01:54 |
kaeza |
been a while |
| 01:54 |
Peacock |
well in this case they dont even have income, theyre on assitance, and in Quebec people on assitance dont give a shit about their neighbourhood or the quality of life (and not leaving trash strewn all over the place all week) |
| 01:55 |
kaeza |
this man should get up his lazy ass and learn C++: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6736 |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: not everyone who is "on assistance" is like that - myself included. |
| 01:55 |
Peacock |
thats one thing about the english they have more pride no matter how much they earn |
| 01:55 |
kaeza |
all his stuff is plain awesome |
| 01:56 |
babyface1031 |
yes i been trying to log in for 2 months but i couldnt get on |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: indeed so, but as I've been led to believe, none of his stuff is particularly suitable for inclusion in the engine, sadly |
| 01:56 |
Peacock |
it depends on why theyr on it, if its drug problems and unemployability, then theyre hard to live with |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
last year i woke up to this big effing indian in my kitchen, he looked as confused as i did lol |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
there's a reason doors have locks :P |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
(for different reasons) |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
it was locked lol |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, well, VoxelManip is a great deal faster than set_node() anyway I guess |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
vox'ma'nips :p |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
almost as written directly in C++ |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
[07-30 08:34] <PilzAdam> I just benchmarked vmanip vs. get_node for reading only and it seems that vmanip turns out useful for over 700 nodes with a speedup of 10ms (+-5) |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
and btw, he was nothing like the ones in Last of the Mohicans :p |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
he never answered if that was 10ms/node or for the whole 700-node block |
| 01:58 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, that is for get_node() |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
oh SET node |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
mmm, get_noodle() |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
*noodles |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
mmmm noodles |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
that sounded bad lol |
| 01:59 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: LuaVoxelManip isn't very usefull for get_node. set_node is the slow one. |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
we need a restaurant mod for MT lol |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
too bad none of what I do would benefit from it |
| 01:59 |
kaeza |
write is always slower than reading, because the game rebuilds the mesh on every set_node() {{cn}} |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
paramats' mods might benefit from it tho |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
I bet SPlizard's snow mod would benefit though |
| 02:01 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 02:01 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: I don't think that is it. The mesh is client-side. But it might send every change individually. |
| 02:02 |
ShadowNinja |
(AFAIK) |
| 02:02 |
kaeza |
now, if entity handling weren't so buggy |
| 02:02 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 02:02 |
Peacock |
i yanked most entities lol |
| 02:02 |
Peacock |
fullinv drop and q drop |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
'buggy' ain't the word for it |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
"fucking broken all to hell" fits better |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 02:03 |
kaeza |
hehe |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
thats what i dont get :P |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
hardcode weather instead of fixing entities which would make jeija's weather so much better |
| 02:09 |
Peacock |
i need a new back |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
as long as you're ordering new body parts, I need a whole-body overhaul :P |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
NekoGloop.extract({'spine','spleen'}) |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
anything else? |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:12 |
* NekoGloop |
grows them back |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
fuck it, just clone some healthy supermodel and transplant my brain :-) |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
not sure theyre healthy with all that pharmaceutical speed they take to stay skinny |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
truckers take speed, cops have roid rage, wonder if theres anyone who ain't doped up lol |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
not me, unless you count my vitamins and misc low-end pills as doped-up :P |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
thats one lol |
| 02:18 |
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| 02:18 |
Peacock |
naturistfury :-) |
| 02:30 |
Peacock |
i think i made the shields too complex lol |
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| 02:49 |
* NekoGloop |
pinches VanessaE |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
ow. |
| 02:50 |
* sokomine |
secretly carries the leftover kittens away |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: put 'em in oldcoder's pile like usual |
| 02:51 |
sokomine |
voxelmanip and especially place_schematic will be useful for my random_buildings mod. it's just not that easy to get a town to spawn...at least not if it ought to be halfway realistic and detailed |
| 02:51 |
sokomine |
vanessa: ok. bet they're safe there |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
Splizard: snow mod should be modified to use that ^^^^ |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
should afford it some decent speed gains |
| 02:52 |
sokomine |
the snow mod works fine already :-) the sumpf (swamp) mod needs more improvement and speedup |
| 02:52 |
Splizard |
what format are schematic files in? |
| 02:52 |
sokomine |
a format very close to the mapfile format itshelf |
| 02:53 |
sokomine |
it's not intended for manipulation thorough mods. you can save it with the speedy-gonzales-branch of worldedit (and load it, of course; or load it with place_schematic in lua) |
| 02:54 |
sokomine |
don't know if schematics will be handy for the snow mod. are there any repeating structures? |
| 02:54 |
sokomine |
voxelmanip could be more useful |
| 02:54 |
Splizard |
could be useful for icebergs |
| 02:54 |
Splizard |
maybe |
| 02:54 |
Peacock |
if theyre pushing weather, whats the use of snow mods? |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: for mapgen v6 of course. |
| 02:54 |
sokomine |
it looks great |
| 02:55 |
VanessaE |
all the fancy shit is being done on mapgen v7 or indev |
| 02:55 |
sokomine |
icebergs, yes. thouse would be fine |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
i know it looks nice but if engine places snow itself then the mod dont need to? |
| 02:55 |
sokomine |
hope the engine does it as good as the snow mod then |
| 02:56 |
Splizard |
Snow mod can add bonus snow features not found in the default game |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
only reason I don't use the snow mod is that stupid mapgen cutoff bug |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
i just had someone log on and the whole server ground to a halt :/ |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
(where mapgen-oriented mods tend to get cut off at mapblock boundaries) |
| 02:56 |
sokomine |
ah yes, that looks strange. mostly on maps. if you're building near it, you can smoothen the edges manually |
| 02:57 |
Splizard |
Yea thats a problem, I have been playing around with mapgen7 with snow and it looks pretty good. |
| 02:59 |
sokomine |
hm |
| 03:02 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_850139828.jpg :DDDDDDDD |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
determined :p |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: almost there |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
and i thought my towers were anally precise lol |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: when you get it going right, render it with an HDX-based screenshot ;) |
| 03:04 |
kaeza |
ofc |
| 03:05 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_850308895.jpg |
| 03:06 |
kaeza |
those at the bottom are trees :P |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
looks like that 4seasons mod :) |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
? |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
i dont see it lol |
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| 03:07 |
Peacock |
and icant believe ppl still play with that antiquity lol |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
4seasons |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
i wrote it for 0.4 or 0.4.1 i think |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
huh, I thought mauvebic wrote it |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
who did you think i was? lol |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
oh ffs |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
change yer damn nick then :) |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
would if i could |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
forgot my password |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
i was gone a few months lol |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
I know |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
(I don't usually make assumptions about who is who) |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
well i wouldn't be the first to come back with a diff. name lol |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
I still say it looks like 4seasons :P |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
though most ppl think Peacock = the bird, when its actually captain Peacock |
| 03:11 |
sokomine |
in this case it's pretty clear :-) he's online too much. also his server gave him away :-) |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
yeah seriously :p |
| 03:11 |
* VanessaE |
<-- dense :_) |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 03:12 |
sokomine |
4seasons is fine. just the spring season is too....hmm...plain-colored |
| 03:12 |
Peacock |
the startest anyways, alot of people are constantly online tho |
| 03:12 |
sokomine |
i was always hoping spring would pass soon :-) |
| 03:12 |
Peacock |
4seaons changes too many nodes |
| 03:13 |
Peacock |
if you could change node textures on the fly it would be different |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: bug RBA to finish up that one patch c55 had for the purpose |
| 03:13 |
Peacock |
RBA has alot on his plate tho |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
he also mentionned something about domes |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
skydome |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
for setting unique skies |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
yeah |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
plus i hear he's working crazy hours |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
coming Real Soon Now â„¢ |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
yes, that too |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
upwards of 60 hours/week |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
is rba the last one working on expanding the api? jeija seems to MIA |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
with a totally botched up schedule |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
ive done that and more, it burns you out eventually |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
I do wonder where Jeija disappeared to |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
seriously lol |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
not long after particlspawnsers and poof, gone |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
Jeija's last commit to mesecons was 3 months ago, since then it's mostly been Uberi, Novatux, khonkhortisan, and a bit from RBA and I |
| 03:16 |
Peacock |
he didn't g et in any fights? |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
don't remember |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
I figured he burned out |
| 03:16 |
Peacock |
maybe |
| 03:16 |
Peacock |
that happens here lol |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
the more stuff you have to maintain the worse |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
his last forum post was almost a month ago.. |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
though maybe he just consideres mesecons more or less complete |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
maybe |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
maybe ShadowNinja can rewrite the wires to use 6dfacedir |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
then one could call it 'complete' |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
its coming up with the facedir -> connecting sides rules that looks painful lol |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
i tried figuring it out for other things, i concluded i could live with more nodes than necessary lol |
| 03:20 |
Peacock |
you have to be able to do say, y+ translated for each facedir |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
yeah, it's tricky to work with |
| 03:20 |
Peacock |
that would probably be a heckuvalot faster as an api helper than coded lua |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
I played hell getting moreblocks stairsplus tuned right for it |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
my screwdriver still works on 4 faces, does 0.4.6 have the 6d? |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
0.4.6? |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
so i could have tried |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
talk about out of date :) 0.4.8 is almost out |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
0.4.6 |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
thats what im waiting for :p |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
but yeah, I think so |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
but screw using releases, use a nightly/git build :) |
| 03:22 |
Peacock |
well i dont wanna be a tester for wonky features, i need my server to work for me and others |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
mine works pretty well |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
i mean, look http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-27#i_3219860 |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
as long as people don't get lazy and try to stick with like 0.4.3 or something :) |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
redcrab :P |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
he's 0.4.4 :P |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
(because most of his mods are outdated) |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
he's also MIA |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
server still up tho |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
(and his mapfile is like 6GB, it's a wonder his server still runs) |
| 03:24 |
Peacock |
well if he sticks with the same mods the whole time, i can see how it would still work smoothly |
| 03:24 |
Peacock |
its adding/removing stuff on the same map over a long time that tends to break things |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
yeah but protocol changes eventually will render such an old version incompatible with modern clients |
| 03:25 |
Peacock |
im just curious to see if it really does run better on my hardware |
| 03:25 |
Peacock |
some say its faster, others the opposite |
| 03:26 |
Peacock |
i dont feel like breaking my map tho for 0.4.8 |
| 03:28 |
Peacock |
id prolly lose my regulars/nongriefers if i did that lol |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:29 |
sokomine |
yes :-( hope redcrab returns |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
well do you really want to deal with anyone who is too lazy to get a compatible client anyway? :) |
| 03:29 |
Peacock |
one was already pretty pissed that his lair suddenly found itself in a protection zone lol |
| 03:29 |
sokomine |
last time i heared the map was more like 10 gb iirc |
| 03:30 |
Peacock |
well im the one running an old version server, so new clients dont have any trouble connecting |
| 03:30 |
Splizard |
Yea thats a problem, I have been playing around with mapgen7 with snow and it looks pretty good. |
| 03:30 |
Splizard |
oops |
| 03:31 |
Peacock |
but when i read about lagspikes and map breakage in the logs, im hesitant :p |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
too bad there's no way to port a mapgen v6 world over to mapgen v7 |
| 03:31 |
Peacock |
lagspikes/cpuspikes forget which |
| 03:32 |
Peacock |
im not even sure the edges will match up if paramat rewrites moonrealm with voxelmynips |
| 03:34 |
Peacock |
thats why wiping chunks and re-engaging ongen would be useful |
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| 03:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_852315803.jpg |
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| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: \o/ |
| 03:40 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_851420819.jpg |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
that looks like my "bigger, sharper" font, too :) |
| 03:40 |
kaeza |
nope; freetype :P |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
oh, heh |
| 03:41 |
kaeza |
now, if somebody would be nice enough to create a palette out of the colors in unifieddyes... |
| 03:41 |
NekoGloop |
That looks like someone threw up and it happens to look like cloud. |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: there's already an official palette file included with that mod :) |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, in table format :P |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
too lazy to do it myself |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
not exactly in minetestmapper format (or table format :P ) but should be easy enough to parse with a script |
| 03:43 |
Peacock |
i wonder how minetestmapper could be tweaked to show protection zones |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
tweak the C++ version |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
the python version is crap :P |
| 03:44 |
Peacock |
yeah probably involves looking at how scales are drawn |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
(the C++ version has one irritating bug though: it doesn't properly handle opening/re-opening a map file if the server is also using it actively. It writes blank areas to the final PNG when a collision happens). |
| 03:58 |
Peacock |
i got used to only running it when server's off |
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| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
I never shut the server down unless the power starts dropping out or there's a pending storm |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
(or if it just breaks :P ) |
| 04:00 |
Peacock |
i simply turn mine off at night, im getting better at autobanning griefers, but still |
| 04:01 |
Peacock |
it helps that new players spawn in a 1000sq node protection area, if they attempt to dig/place 10 times it jail, 15 is ban, they get a warning each time |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
on mine, if they try to dig the spawn, they'll find themselves drowning in lava :) |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
my prison is setup like that lol |
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| 04:03 |
Peacock |
its also protected and 200 nodes underground, even spock couldn't find a way out lol |
| 04:03 |
Peacock |
from jail they can either ask for an out or try to grief their way out, wich leads to a ban lol |
| 04:04 |
Peacock |
if i can automate most of the admin stuff thats more time i get to build |
| 04:04 |
khonkhortisan |
I've been highlighted, but I'm on break from minetest |
| 04:05 |
khonkhortisan |
sort of |
| 04:06 |
VanessaE |
why? |
| 04:11 |
Peacock |
lol http://youtu.be/vSfrbqCQr78 |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
!title |
| 04:11 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: The Simpsons-Rock Bottom (Sweet Can) - YouTube |
| 04:11 |
Peacock |
if only it was still that funny |
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| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 04:28 |
kaeza |
Aaaaaand it's up https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103026#p103026 |
| 04:36 |
IceCraft |
mornin` |
| 04:38 |
babyface1031 |
night all |
| 04:38 |
IceCraft |
gn |
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| 05:21 |
reactor |
Mowing. |
| 05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I canceled make and ended up with a purple terminal :) |
| 05:41 |
reactor |
escape sequences eh |
| 05:41 |
khonkhortisan |
yep |
| 05:42 |
reactor |
stty reset |
| 05:42 |
reactor |
no |
| 05:42 |
khonkhortisan |
too late anyway, I re-ran make |
| 05:42 |
reactor |
just "reset" |
| 05:42 |
reactor |
returns terminal to its normal state, usually |
| 05:43 |
reactor |
Worse happens if you try printing out some BINARY. |
| 05:43 |
reactor |
It will confuse the terminal so thet unusual chars appear instead of letters. |
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| 05:43 |
reactor |
And reset doesn't help it. Wonder how can fis this. |
| 05:43 |
reactor |
s/is/ix/ |
| 05:44 |
khonkhortisan |
if I cat /dev/something, I can make the keyboard print unusual characters |
| 05:45 |
reactor |
urandom |
| 05:45 |
reactor |
u for "unlocking", as it, it doesn't stop if there is not enough randomnes |
| 05:46 |
khonkhortisan |
urandom changes my keyboard layout, the terminal title, then closes the terminal. |
| 05:47 |
reactor |
What kind of terminal do ye have? |
| 05:48 |
khonkhortisan |
urxvt (with kde compositing transparency, not the fake stuff) |
| 05:48 |
reactor |
good |
| 05:48 |
reactor |
strange |
| 05:48 |
reactor |
in my case it doesn't close it |
| 05:49 |
khonkhortisan |
VanessaE, this is why: t> minetest |
| 05:49 |
khonkhortisan |
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'SendFailedException' |
| 05:49 |
khonkhortisan |
what(): Failed to send packet |
| 05:49 |
khonkhortisan |
Aborted |
| 05:49 |
reactor |
khonkhortisan: now... what is the purpose of transparency? |
| 05:50 |
khonkhortisan |
transparency would be much more useful if all programs could support it - one way was color-based, like you could make the white or gray sections of windows transparent. If I have a terminal with only the first line having text in it, I can see through to the window behind it. |
| 05:50 |
reactor |
No. |
| 05:51 |
reactor |
I mean, what's the point of making your terminal transparent? |
| 05:51 |
reactor |
Shouldn't that reduce readability of the actual text in it? |
| 05:51 |
khonkhortisan |
actually, blue on black with a small font is the least readable part of it |
| 05:52 |
reactor |
So why not turn off all these transparencies and enjoy clear, crisp image?! |
| 05:52 |
reactor |
Besides, transparency slows you down. |
| 05:55 |
khonkhortisan |
reactor, http://img42.com/eyjqm |
| 05:55 |
khonkhortisan |
urxvt -fade 20 +sb -depth 32 -fg white -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/cccc |
| 05:55 |
reactor |
How am I supposed to see indirect links to images? |
| 05:55 |
reactor |
Use a better hosting. |
| 05:55 |
reactor |
to files in general, I mean |
| 05:55 |
reactor |
this is terrible |
| 05:56 |
reactor |
try wget on that link, seriously |
| 05:56 |
reactor |
that shit needs to die |
| 05:57 |
khonkhortisan |
http://cdn.img42.com/c97835d8d2318a3d8d4a69b500b85987.png |
| 06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
My computer doesn't have ipv6 enabled, it checks for ipv6 during tests, failed tests keep minetest from running. A pull request that disables that test when ipv6 is disabled in minetest is available, but there's a larger pull request that checks for ipv6 and disables it automatically if the test fails, which isn't merged because of the port it uses. |
| 06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
Meanwhile minetest is unusable on ipv4. |
| 06:02 |
reactor |
woah man how do you live with all this clutter |
| 06:02 |
khonkhortisan |
that's why I didn't play minetest for a while |
| 06:02 |
khonkhortisan |
clutter on my desktop? |
| 06:03 |
reactor |
in general |
| 06:03 |
reactor |
yes |
| 06:03 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't minimize windows, I just send them to back. |
| 06:04 |
reactor |
It's heavily mouse-reliant, all this stuff you have. |
| 06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
actually, I had a bunch of clutter on my desk, and cleared it all off and put it on a different desk. |
| 06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
I know. |
| 06:04 |
reactor |
Why not get rid of the rodent? |
| 06:04 |
reactor |
You really only need it for graphics editors and games. |
| 06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
I tried awesome, I haven't gotten used to tiling wms, |
| 06:04 |
khonkhortisan |
. |
| 06:05 |
khonkhortisan |
Why not get rid of qwerty? |
| 06:05 |
khonkhortisan |
You really only need it for typewriters. |
| 06:06 |
reactor |
Good luck typing in commands with a screen keyboard. |
| 06:06 |
reactor |
You know, it's unhealthy to type with one hand. |
| 06:06 |
reactor |
To say the least. |
| 06:06 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
| 06:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I meant where the letters are, not the whole keyboard |
| 06:07 |
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| 06:07 |
reactor |
keyboard was designed for two hands, why not use both hands on it, why have to move your right one between it and the mouse? |
| 06:07 |
reactor |
Having to do that slows you down. |
| 06:07 |
khonkhortisan |
I do that a lot. |
| 06:07 |
reactor |
Speaking of tiling. |
| 06:07 |
reactor |
Do it the goatse way |
| 06:08 |
reactor |
As in, gradually stretch it. |
| 06:09 |
khonkhortisan |
now I know what goatse is |
| 06:10 |
khonkhortisan |
the correct way to use a mouse is to keep your hands on the keyboard and have an eye tracker as a mouse pointer |
| 06:10 |
reactor |
I bloody know. |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
you can't have both hands on it if you have one hand on the mouse |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
Or you have three hands? |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
Or move it with yur wiley? |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
s/yur/your/ |
| 06:11 |
khonkhortisan |
an australian designed something where the right hand was half a keyboard with a mouse in it |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
Meh. |
| 06:11 |
reactor |
Why complicate it? |
| 06:12 |
reactor |
Why not just design an interface that doesn't require mouse? |
| 06:12 |
khonkhortisan |
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/combimouse-480x389.jpg |
| 06:12 |
reactor |
It not only looks overcomplicated, it also looks ugly as hell. |
| 06:13 |
reactor |
And if it breaks, who's gonna repair it?! |
| 06:13 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd like to see a keyboard where the three rows are combined into the home row, where you can push a single button forward, backward, or down to get three letters. That would reduce the distance between letters (which some keyboard layouts claim to do) |
| 06:13 |
reactor |
So instead of making the interface more usable, they will make workarounds. |
| 06:13 |
reactor |
That's so typical of humans. God damn it. |
| 06:14 |
reactor |
Irrational. |
| 06:14 |
khonkhortisan |
The scroll wheel on my mouse goes in five directions, but my keyboard only goes down |
| 06:14 |
reactor |
oh that would be a good idea |
| 06:14 |
reactor |
yet I'm afraid it would put strain on fingers. |
| 06:15 |
reactor |
at the same time, it would reduce vibrations from impacts |
| 06:16 |
khonkhortisan |
hmm. it would keep you from lifting your fingers off the buttons most of the time, I guess it would depend on how much force it takes to slide forward/back |
| 06:16 |
reactor |
Exactly. |
| 06:16 |
reactor |
Besides, the switches would have to have complex construction. |
| 06:16 |
reactor |
Which would 1) increase cost 2) reduce repairability |
| 06:16 |
khonkhortisan |
it would be like a middle mouse button / scroll wheel where you can only scroll one tick |
| 06:17 |
reactor |
Oh that. |
| 06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
and nonstandard things aren't popular |
| 06:17 |
reactor |
I've seen such keyboard somewhere. |
| 06:17 |
reactor |
yes. |
| 06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
you have? |
| 06:17 |
reactor |
I don't. |
| 06:18 |
khonkhortisan |
*you have seen it somewhere? |
| 06:18 |
khonkhortisan |
I didn't know it existed. |
| 06:18 |
reactor |
Oh yeah. I've seen a drawing. |
| 06:18 |
reactor |
In an old magazine related to amateur computers. |
| 06:19 |
reactor |
I don't know, I didn't like the idea, because the switches depicted there were unreliable as fuck. |
| 06:19 |
reactor |
And required much motion to work. |
| 06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm going to take a guess and say you don't like touchscreen keyboards. |
| 06:19 |
reactor |
And could only do two letters. |
| 06:19 |
reactor |
I don't. |
| 06:19 |
reactor |
You can't touch type on them. |
| 06:20 |
reactor |
I like when I can feel the key closing. That helps reduce error rate. |
| 06:20 |
reactor |
And, with real keys, you feel if you've placed fingers right or wrong. |
| 06:21 |
reactor |
So a real keyboard requires little looking at it in operation, if at all. |
| 06:21 |
reactor |
I couldn't say that about screen keyboards. |
| 06:21 |
reactor |
And you can't use all ten fingers on them, I'll bet. |
| 06:21 |
reactor |
Too small. |
| 06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
they have yet to mass produce keyboards with vertical columns instead of these jagged ones |
| 06:22 |
reactor |
No, that's a bad idea. |
| 06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
really? why? |
| 06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
the angle between your hands? |
| 06:22 |
reactor |
The present placement is more convenient for hands. |
| 06:23 |
reactor |
The angle is okay. you just don't have to put your wrists anywhere. |
| 06:23 |
reactor |
that's a bad habit, typing with wrists on something. |
| 06:23 |
reactor |
only basement dwellers do that |
| 06:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't understand. You should hold your wrist in the air? |
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reactor |
Yeah. |
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khonkhortisan |
elbow too? |
| 06:24 |
reactor |
Yes! |
| 06:25 |
reactor |
That's where the strain comes from: people don't know how to sit properly. |
| 06:25 |
reactor |
Speaking of which, mouse does not help sit properly. |
| 06:25 |
reactor |
You have to reach to side for it. |
| 06:26 |
reactor |
And one arm is in the air, unsupported, another is on the desk. |
| 06:26 |
reactor |
if you could tear your arms off and weigh them, you would see how heavy they are |
| 06:26 |
reactor |
and that's not a good idea to constantly have one on a support, and another without it |
| 06:27 |
thexyz |
khonkhortisan: it shouldn't run tests unless this is debug build |
| 06:27 |
reactor |
No wonder most of our generation witll be DISGUSTING CRIPPLES by their 40s. |
| 06:28 |
khonkhortisan |
So it runs as release, and refuses to as debug. Still bad. |
| 06:28 |
khonkhortisan |
txtng iz bd 4 y thmbs |
| 06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
I just found an article about a computer desk where you stand at it instead of sit at it |
| 06:58 |
khonkhortisan |
When I have a child, I'm going to get them a blank keyboard. |
| 07:03 |
reactor |
Standing too much is bad, too. |
| 07:04 |
reactor |
Loading your legs too much. |
| 07:04 |
reactor |
They're for walking and running, not standing, duh. |
| 07:05 |
reactor |
khonkhortisan: bad idea about the keyboard, you have to look at it sometimes. |
| 07:05 |
reactor |
When you either forget where to get some rarely used char, or you're tired and failing to operate it. |
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khonkhortisan |
I pulled my keyboard to the edge of my desk, typing in the air isn't that bad. Now I'm attempting using space with the thumb from the hand that last typed. |
| 07:14 |
reactor |
That's a good habit. |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
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reactor |
.yeH |
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khonkhortisan |
Ë™ollÇÉ¥ |
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khonkhortisan |
‮Good night. |
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emerge |
Greetings! |
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jin_xi |
khonkhortisan: i have reverted your pull request to painting. next time ill be more careful... |
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reac |
Hmm. |
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reac |
If I want to fix the mcedit conversion script, do I also need to fix stairs direction and such? |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Uncommon Instrument Awareness Day! :-D |
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nalkri |
I didn't know that! |
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nalkri |
And good morning |
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kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_872014789.jpg |
| 09:12 |
DanDuncombe |
What is the player's movement speed when not using fast? |
| 09:13 |
reac |
kaeza: :D |
| 09:15 |
reac |
http://memeblender.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/troll-face-meme-do-not-feed-the-trolls.jpg |
| 09:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Help?https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103057#p103057 |
| 09:16 |
kaeza |
heh |
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kaeza |
DanDuncombe, anywhere easily accessible |
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DanDuncombe |
Then what do I do with it? I try to run it but I just get a window which instantly shuts. |
| 09:18 |
kaeza |
you are not double clicking it are you? |
| 09:18 |
kaeza |
you are supposed to run it from the command line (aka "DOS Box") |
| 09:18 |
DanDuncombe |
How to run it thn? |
| 09:18 |
DanDuncombe |
*then |
| 09:20 |
kaeza |
if you want to make it easy, copy the exe to the minetest/worlds/ folder |
| 09:20 |
kaeza |
then shift-rightclick on an empty area of the windows in explorer |
| 09:21 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay. |
| 09:21 |
kaeza |
and select "open command prompt here" (or smth like that) |
| 09:21 |
DanDuncombe |
Just put it in minetest/worlds? |
| 09:21 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 09:21 |
DanDuncombe |
Done that |
| 09:22 |
kaeza |
kaeza> then shift-rightclick on an empty area of the windows in explorer and select "open command prompt here" (or smth like that) |
| 09:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Opened the command line |
| 09:23 |
DanDuncombe |
I have to go verysoon |
| 09:23 |
kaeza |
type "minetestmapper" (or whatever the name of the exe) |
| 09:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay. What next? |
| 09:24 |
kaeza |
uhh... "minetestmapper -i yourworldnamehere -o map.png" |
| 09:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, thankjs |
| 09:24 |
kaeza |
IIRC |
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DanDuncombe |
I got an error that it tried to open map.sqlite in an unusual way and so crashed. |
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reac |
can worldedit set data values of blocks? |
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emerge |
Do anyone mind how to operate minetest.get_perlin_map()? |
| 09:50 |
emerge |
I am trying to generate some noise using ABM. |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
reac: data values? |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
also, "blocks" are called "nodes" |
| 09:51 |
reac |
yes |
| 09:51 |
reac |
nodes' data value |
| 09:51 |
reac |
like, stairs' rotation |
| 09:51 |
reac |
and wool's colour |
| 09:52 |
reac |
well wool colour is not in the data values |
| 09:52 |
reac |
but stairs rotation is |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
oh, facedir |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
wool colour is just separate nodes |
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Calinou |
I don't think it can |
| 09:52 |
reac |
facedir |
| 09:52 |
reac |
hmm |
| 09:52 |
reac |
yes, nothing like that in the docs |
| 09:53 |
reac |
well at least it can handle the placed ones right |
| 09:55 |
reac |
hmm |
| 09:55 |
reac |
oh the facedir |
| 09:56 |
emerge |
By the way, worldedit won't handle large chunks of map data. |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
doesn't it use VoxelManip now? |
| 09:56 |
emerge |
Minetest will crash. |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
what is a large chunk for you? :P |
| 09:57 |
emerge |
I was trying to copy out 1/4 of one server map. |
| 09:58 |
emerge |
Maybe 100*100*80. |
| 09:59 |
emerge |
Calinou> doesn't it use VoxelManip now? |
| 09:59 |
emerge |
What do you mean? |
| 10:01 |
Calinou |
something that speeds up placing or removing nodes |
| 10:02 |
emerge |
hm |
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emerge |
thanks |
| 10:07 |
reac |
hell yeah |
| 10:07 |
reac |
I've fixed the script |
| 10:07 |
reac |
where to I send the diff? |
| 10:08 |
emerge |
github? |
| 10:08 |
emerge |
https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit |
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| 10:09 |
reac |
no |
| 10:09 |
reac |
not worldedit |
| 10:09 |
reac |
tomtweschem.py |
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emerge |
Ask sfan5. |
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reac |
emerge: oh... I don't remember, for I don't have the logs handy, is he the author? |
| 10:11 |
reac |
sfan5: eh! |
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emerge |
reac, yeah. |
| 10:11 |
reac |
mk |
| 10:11 |
emerge |
Also, you can make a post to tomtweschem.py topic with your diff. |
| 10:12 |
recracktor |
I would not like to remember yat anothe password. |
| 10:12 |
recracktor |
So I would really appreciate it if I could just mail it. |
| 10:13 |
recracktor |
Does Minetest have a mailing list? |
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emerge |
idk |
| 10:15 |
emerge |
If you give a link, I can post it. |
| 10:15 |
recracktor |
okay I will open up a FTP when I boot back to my main system |
| 10:15 |
recracktor |
and thank you in advance, sir |
| 10:16 |
emerge |
you are welcome :3 |
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Jordach |
kaeza, imageloader is awesome |
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kaeza |
Jordach, thanks :P |
| 10:21 |
Jordach |
kaeza, spotted my 1080p wallpaper hanging about? |
| 10:21 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102992#p102992 |
| 10:21 |
kaeza |
yeah. it's very good! |
| 10:22 |
kaeza |
though I think the pickaxe should be more... to the hand |
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Jordach |
it's about the same position as it is with the wieldview mod |
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* Jordach |
considers doing a animation render test |
| 10:34 |
recracktor |
does multithreading in MC apply to graphics as well? |
| 10:34 |
recracktor |
I mean, for software rendering. |
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recracktor |
MT* |
| 10:41 |
Exio4 |
hi |
| 10:42 |
recracktor |
.iH |
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* Exio4 |
revs recracktor |
| 10:44 |
Jordach |
btw, you can make xfce4 a gui on windows :) |
| 10:47 |
Exio4 |
RealBadAngel: ! |
| 10:47 |
Exio4 |
RealBadAngel: are you here? |
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recracktor |
Who needs Windows, anyway. |
| 10:50 |
Exio4 |
ubuntu users need it |
| 10:50 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 10:51 |
recracktor |
oh yeah yeah |
| 10:52 |
Exio4 |
oh |
| 10:52 |
Exio4 |
zeg9 made a small "change to it", for making it work on his system |
| 10:56 |
RealBadAngel |
Exio4, whats up? |
| 10:56 |
Exio4 |
RealBadAngel: look at the "workaround" for irrlicht 1.8 |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i just did. cool |
| 10:58 |
RealBadAngel |
about your comment, parallax mapping is depending on view angle |
| 10:59 |
Exio4 |
ah |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
parallax mapping looks bad on some angles |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
tesselation looks good from all angles :P |
| 10:59 |
Jordach |
hey Calinou |
| 10:59 |
Jordach |
seen my wallpaper? |
| 10:59 |
Calinou |
no |
| 10:59 |
Jordach |
it's in someone's wallpaper thread + my renders thread |
| 11:00 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, i will implement many shaders for sure, maybe tesselation too |
| 11:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Exio4, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6737 |
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kahrl |
I don't think irrlicht supports tesselation |
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Calinou |
well, ok then |
| 11:06 |
RealBadAngel |
kahrl, it doesnt mean it cannot be done |
| 11:07 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, parallax mapping is supported by irrlicht natively, without shaders even |
| 11:08 |
RealBadAngel |
but to use it you have to use another material type which would mean no shaders for that node |
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recracktor |
why does worledit use pos1 as the centre of what to paste? |
| 11:08 |
recracktor |
Why not use it as one of the corners? |
| 11:09 |
recracktor |
It's not convenient for bid pastes if you have to align them |
| 11:09 |
recracktor |
big* |
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recracktor |
like, 1x1 km |
| 11:09 |
recracktor |
you will have to go 500m, check the corner, then calculate corrections and repaste! |
| 11:09 |
recracktor |
that's ridiculous |
| 11:09 |
kahrl |
RealBadAngel: can't you put parallaxmap_solid in base.txt of a shader? |
| 11:10 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/burger-time/ :) |
| 11:11 |
RealBadAngel |
kahrl, i have rebuilt whole shaders tree |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
there will be just 3 shaders no matter how many effects will be added |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i also solved problem with attribute variable for shaders |
| 11:14 |
RealBadAngel |
all the configuration options will be passed to shaders, and every tile will be able to get its own parameters |
| 11:15 |
RealBadAngel |
so, my next patch will remove extra shaders for bumpmapping |
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* Jordach |
creams over new shaders |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
this weekend |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
today i have last night shift and then whole week free |
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reactor |
back |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, seen what i've been doing? |
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Jordach |
it's a custom Sam model |
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Jordach |
the head alone has 11 bones |
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reactor |
Exio4: ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch |
| 11:33 |
reactor |
If it was you who I was talking to. |
| 11:33 |
reactor |
Someone on the E- |
| 11:33 |
reactor |
I was under another system, haven't got the log. |
| 11:41 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, yeah, your model looks cool |
| 11:42 |
Jordach |
just implemented two eyelids instead of a single one; i'm using a all bones model |
| 11:42 |
Jordach |
and no special trickery |
| 11:42 |
reactor |
Or come on. |
| 11:43 |
Jordach |
so Minetest can actually use my model :) |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
Who was I talking to about the .py script, |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
, |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
? |
| 11:43 |
Jordach |
Exio4 |
| 11:43 |
Jordach |
<reactor> Exio4: ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch |
| 11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i wish to see one day nice render like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAgDNzuiMs |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
No. |
| 11:43 |
reactor |
I don't remember if it was Exio4. |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
Most likely not. |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
Or is this channel logged? |
| 11:44 |
reactor |
Or does anyone have logs from the last half hour? |
| 11:45 |
reactor |
I do usually log, but on that system logging was not set up. |
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reactor |
So I can't really go back and search. |
| 11:46 |
Jordach |
reactor, was it emerge? |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
I don't know. |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
Probably. |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
Eh. |
| 11:46 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRchUwaZ6YA&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL2026E1A1A4DE6AA4 |
| 11:46 |
reactor |
There aren't many people on e here. |
| 11:48 |
reactor |
Anyway... could someone having access to the forum post the patch there? |
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KikaRz |
Hi therez |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 12:03 |
reactor |
Hey PilzAdam. |
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KikaRz |
Hello PilzAdam |
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reactor |
sfan5: I've fixed it. |
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Jordach |
hey KikaRz |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
sfan5, alot has happened recently |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
and i mean alot |
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PilzAdam |
Im pretty sure you mean "a lot" |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, sfan is annoyed when you say alot |
| 12:21 |
Jordach |
very annoyed |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6415 |
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webdesigner97 |
hi :) |
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Peacock |
Peacock.error('expected coffee, got nil') |
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webdesigner97 |
:D |
| 12:26 |
reactor |
so when I //load'ed the 90 MB scheme file |
| 12:26 |
reactor |
it didn't process everything |
| 12:27 |
reactor |
it only pasted like 40% of it, the nearest to me |
| 12:27 |
reactor |
a square of the nearest parts |
| 12:27 |
Peacock |
at 90mb, im not surprised lua flushed some or all of table before the operation finished + ungenerated chunks will do that too |
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Jordach |
hey Peacock |
| 12:28 |
Peacock |
howdy |
| 12:28 |
Jordach |
Peacock, the freenode operators can give you your freenode password in a email |
| 12:28 |
Jordach |
so you can regain mauvebic |
| 12:29 |
Peacock |
meh, i registered this nick and got a cloaking device, i can now travel the Romulan Neutral Zone with impunity |
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Jordach |
haha |
| 12:30 |
Peacock |
though i was kinda surprised V didn't know who i was until last night :p |
| 12:30 |
Peacock |
exio figured it out first and i talked to him all of 2 or 3 times :p |
| 12:32 |
Peacock |
he'd make a good detective :-) |
| 12:34 |
Peacock |
Peacock.breakfast({coffee=true,cigarette=true}) |
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PilzAdam |
D: |
| 12:35 |
Peacock |
lol |
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PilzAdam |
cigarette=EVIL |
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Calinou |
^ |
| 12:35 |
Peacock |
but... http://youtu.be/YWSevt_i51w |
| 12:36 |
KikaRz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adUjMNtXkSQ&list=TLbev0NIfAbkU |
| 12:36 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/QoNo6d5.png |
| 12:36 |
Jordach |
dammit GNU MG |
| 12:42 |
Peacock |
ive got it! i'll play Chuck Mangione in my jail :D |
| 12:44 |
kaeza |
lol people usually make it look like you simply touch a smoke and you instantly die from cancer |
| 12:44 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, you dont die instantly, you have enough time to annoy all the people arround you |
| 12:44 |
kaeza |
yet they don't acknowledge all the crap automobiles/factories whatever make |
| 12:45 |
Peacock |
obese people annoy me too but for some reason society says we can't say anything bad about them :/ |
| 12:45 |
Calinou |
I do both |
| 12:45 |
Calinou |
Peacock: just like when you farm karma on train accidents. 8) |
| 12:46 |
Peacock |
especially when you're some skinny dude sitting on a bus/metro and this landwhale sits next to you taking up half your seat |
| 12:46 |
kaeza |
either way we won't quit smoking, so stop bitching |
| 12:46 |
Jordach |
cigarétté Calinou :) |
| 12:46 |
Peacock |
and its not like BO smells better than second hand smoke |
| 12:47 |
Peacock |
people's unruly kids annoy me too |
| 12:48 |
Peacock |
but parents are pretty defensive about their little brats :p |
| 12:48 |
kaeza |
hah tell me about it |
| 12:49 |
Peacock |
"he's just full of spirit!" how about he be full of my shoe up his ass (said red foreman) |
| 12:49 |
Peacock |
people like me wouldn't need to smoke if everybody else wasn't so annoying lol |
| 12:49 |
kaeza |
amen my bro |
| 12:50 |
* Jordach |
often goes for the weed |
| 12:50 |
Peacock |
i cut that out after ten years |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
eh I didn't touch that |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
(yet) |
| 12:51 |
Jordach |
it doesnt kill you; it also kills cancers |
| 12:51 |
Peacock |
not because it may be bad but because the dealers are unprofessional |
| 12:51 |
kaeza |
but life's too short, so you gotta try everything :P |
| 12:52 |
kaeza |
the key is moderation; anything in excess kills |
| 12:52 |
Peacock |
+ working in customer service it's hard to quit smoking, every other customer is like a visit from Queen Mum |
| 12:52 |
Calinou |
or not |
| 12:52 |
Calinou |
even a bit of smoking can hurt |
| 12:52 |
jin_xi |
who cares |
| 12:52 |
Peacock |
so can smog |
| 12:52 |
Peacock |
heat waves |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
and it does |
| 12:53 |
Peacock |
drunk drivers |
| 12:53 |
Peacock |
schizophrenics |
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| 12:53 |
Peacock |
cops |
| 12:53 |
Peacock |
trucks |
| 12:54 |
Peacock |
assisted suicide can seriously damage your health too |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
the cost of smoking is enough to not make me smoke |
| 12:55 |
Peacock |
ironically though, the gov' still controls distribution, even if theyre telling you its bad |
| 12:55 |
Peacock |
and they wonder why people dont take drug laws seriously |
| 12:56 |
Peacock |
though drug laws is just a way for cops to stop and frisk/arrest minorities |
| 12:56 |
Peacock |
even Nixon spent more on rehab |
| 13:01 |
Peacock |
ugh, pretty sure the cat stuck her paw down my throat while i was snoring, she always do that :/ |
| 13:01 |
Jordach |
no that was nekogloop |
| 13:01 |
Calinou |
or a pony |
| 13:01 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 13:03 |
Peacock |
you know my sister violet, she's the one with mercedes, swimming pool and room for a pony :p |
| 13:08 |
Jordach |
lol mercedes |
| 13:09 |
Peacock |
the scary bit is my mother has quite a lot of Hyacinth moments lol |
| 13:28 |
sfan5 |
Please clap for Microsoft Support, first time they made a writing mistake |
| 13:29 |
Peacock |
but linux's documentation is always complete and up to date :p |
| 13:30 |
svuorela |
at least you have the source to fall back to on linux. |
| 13:31 |
Peacock |
perhaps but that doesn't square with advocates trying to convert average users who do need documentation |
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| 13:34 |
NekoGloop |
meow~ |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
sfan5, alot |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
Microsoft always buggers up |
| 13:36 |
Calinou |
forum reached 95000 posts |
| 13:36 |
Peacock |
im sure jojoa could get that up to 100K in two weeks :p |
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| 13:39 |
MasterBot |
Hi |
| 13:39 |
Peacock |
didn't know PilzAdam unbanned you :P |
| 13:39 |
MasterBot |
shush!! |
| 13:40 |
MasterBot |
Hold on a sec... |
| 13:40 |
MasterBot |
PilzAdam you are a genious |
| 13:40 |
MasterBot |
Unban my bot and keep me banned |
| 13:41 |
Calinou |
wat |
| 13:43 |
NekoGloop |
That would be easier if your nick was different than your bot's. |
| 13:43 |
MasterBot |
FFS ubnan MarkTwain... |
| 13:43 |
MasterBot |
That the unbans markveidemanis, MarkTwain, and mtmt |
| 13:44 |
MasterBot |
Grouped in one account |
| 13:44 |
Peacock |
how many names do you have? |
| 13:45 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 13:46 |
Peacock |
05:44:25: ACTION[ServerThread]: Lolopes jailed for attempted griefing |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
When are they donna implement undo in WE? |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
s/don/gon/ |
| 13:53 |
Peacock |
when you implement history :p |
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| 13:58 |
Jordach |
try ctrl+h |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
sfan5, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/272/rockin.png |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
and my mouth is on fire again; i should stop eating chilli :) |
| 14:00 |
Jordach |
also: I've worked out individual fingers using bones |
| 14:03 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: nice |
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| 14:07 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Can you add //pos{1,2} [x,y,z|x y z] to WE? |
| 14:07 |
KikaRz |
Guys |
| 14:08 |
KikaRz |
why Minetest can't have one multi version client? |
| 14:08 |
ShadowNinja |
KikaRz: ? |
| 14:08 |
KikaRz |
I wanted one Multi version client :P |
| 14:09 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102572#p102572 |
| 14:09 |
Peacock |
http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/4de/34e/4de34e52-aaa9-4233-9d39-2b3a6e22dd24 |
| 14:09 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 14:09 |
sfan5 |
KikaRz: multi version? |
| 14:09 |
KikaRz |
Yea |
| 14:09 |
reactor |
sfan5: ?! |
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| 14:09 |
reactor |
sfan5: fixed your scropt man |
| 14:09 |
reactor |
script |
| 14:09 |
KikaRz |
one client that included: |
| 14:09 |
KikaRz |
0.1.0 |
| 14:10 |
KikaRz |
etc. |
| 14:10 |
reactor |
just in case you haven't seen my messages above |
| 14:10 |
Peacock |
sfan had a broken scropt? |
| 14:10 |
reactor |
yes the converter |
| 14:10 |
reactor |
from mcedit |
| 14:10 |
reactor |
wrong x direction |
| 14:10 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Why not just //pos{1,2}? |
| 14:10 |
Peacock |
ill have 12 mcedit's with sweet and sour sauce |
| 14:11 |
reactor |
sfan5: would you patch it? |
| 14:11 |
sfan5 |
reactor: its easy to patch |
| 14:11 |
reactor |
I mean, |
| 14:11 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: dunno |
| 14:11 |
reactor |
would you realease it? |
| 14:11 |
reactor |
For I've made the patch. |
| 14:18 |
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| 14:19 |
hoodedice |
So, how do I find out my current position in xyz? |
| 14:19 |
Peacock |
F5 |
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| 14:21 |
hoodedice |
Thanks =) |
| 14:21 |
Peacock |
np |
| 14:23 |
hoodedice |
hmm, Uruk limits are (1000,1000) in X and Z coords, right? |
| 14:23 |
hoodedice |
(Shouldbeobvious) |
| 14:24 |
Peacock |
1000,1000 to 1250,1250 |
| 14:24 |
Peacock |
the pad i placed is dead-center |
| 14:24 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 14:24 |
hoodedice |
I am placing borders atm |
| 14:25 |
Peacock |
heavy railings? |
| 14:25 |
Peacock |
make sure its just inside the area if you dont want ppl digging it up |
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| 14:26 |
hoodedice |
just torches |
| 14:26 |
hoodedice |
I guess 999.9 is inside = |
| 14:26 |
hoodedice |
=P |
| 14:26 |
Peacock |
should be safe :-) |
| 14:27 |
hanny |
hi :D |
| 14:27 |
Peacock |
tho im not sure ppl will recognize torches as border markings |
| 14:27 |
hoodedice |
:) |
| 14:27 |
hanny |
is mirc the correct irc to download ? |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
lol nope |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
http://hexchat.github.io |
| 14:27 |
hoodedice |
No one visits Uruk, anyway, since the only thing here is just a teleport |
| 14:28 |
MasterBot |
I have made the most useless program |
| 14:28 |
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| 14:28 |
MasterBot |
http://pastebin.com/cgxH2rjt |
| 14:28 |
MasterBot |
!title |
| 14:28 |
MinetestBot |
MasterBot: [Python] y = 1 while 1: x = "variable%i" % y vars()[x] = y y = y+1 - Pastebin.com |
| 14:28 |
Peacock |
ppl keep asking for citizenship, but when i point them to forum, they dont post lol |
| 14:28 |
Peacock |
so fuck'em lol |
| 14:28 |
hanny |
so i need x86 for a 32 bit laptop ? |
| 14:29 |
Peacock |
i hate using ingame chat, crashes every 5 or 6 msgs |
| 14:29 |
MasterBot |
Then dont post long things |
| 14:29 |
MasterBot |
Thats how it crashes |
| 14:29 |
hanny |
calinou do i need x86 for my 32 bit laptop |
| 14:30 |
Peacock |
people ask questions that require complicated answers |
| 14:30 |
Peacock |
by the time im done explaning, the beginning is no longer visible |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
hanny: 32 bit, then x86 |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
>2013 >32 bit, anyway :P |
| 14:31 |
hanny |
lol my laptop is bout 4-5 years old :P |
| 14:31 |
* IceCraft |
a wild ipv6 user appeared |
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| 14:33 |
Jordach |
hanny, yes |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
hai IC |
| 14:33 |
hanny |
it crashes when i launch it |
| 14:34 |
hanny |
it says it has stopped working |
| 14:35 |
IceCraft |
hai |
| 14:38 |
reactor |
sfan5: you don't get it |
| 14:38 |
sfan5 |
reactor: what? |
| 14:39 |
reactor |
sfan5: I'm not publishing it on my own, because I can't be bothered to register on the forum; I thought it was reasonable to contact the developer (you?) and pass the patches |
| 14:39 |
sfan5 |
which patch? |
| 14:39 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
for yout mcedit filter |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
your* |
| 14:40 |
reactor |
it flips X coordinate |
| 14:40 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
Peacock. I don't understand my coords now |
| 14:50 |
hoodedice |
wait. Just got it. Sorry. #Emabarrass |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
sfan5: shit. |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
or not |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
I read the scrollback so that it ended on your question. |
| 14:54 |
sfan5 |
yeah is not a question |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
Lame. |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
20:39 < sfan5> which patch? |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
you didn't answer |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
That's why I said "shit". |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
20:40 < reactor> for yout mcedit filter |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
corrects the X axis handling. |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
damn it |
| 14:56 |
sfan5 |
but you said something about a patch |
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| 14:58 |
Jordach |
patch to WE that fixes the x axis |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
that's what reactor is trying to say |
| 14:58 |
Peacock |
hoodedice sry im gonna be afk most of today, players will have to fend for themselves |
| 14:58 |
Peacock |
pm if griefers |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
or: reactor has a patch for worldedit to flip mcedit filter on the x axis; meaning buildings are correctly coverted |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
Ok |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
tI won't be long either, sorry |
| 14:59 |
Peacock |
got lots of stuff to pack/clean |
| 14:59 |
Peacock |
and i gotta put all the landlords' old crap back (shitty knobs, showerhead, etc. lol) |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
nearly done the fingers sfan5 |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/AWBdeQ1.png |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
and this is the basic blend file that Taoki[laptop] provided :) |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
this the Sam II i was talking of |
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| 15:07 |
reactor |
sfan5: exactly |
| 15:07 |
reactor |
damn it |
| 15:07 |
reactor |
the patch for your script |
| 15:07 |
reactor |
that fixes the bloody x coordinate error |
| 15:07 |
sfan5 |
WHERE IS THAT GODDAMN PATCH? |
| 15:07 |
reactor |
ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
-1: 3, |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
-0: 1, |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
+1: 1, |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
+0: 3, |
| 15:08 |
sfan5 |
why that? |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
reactor! |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
Yes? |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
Say what? |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
Ah. |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
Stairs facing. |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
Needed to swap the two. |
| 15:12 |
sfan5 |
I tested it and it worked 100% correct |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
NO. |
| 15:12 |
sfan5 |
no? |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
Yours flips X. |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
Try copying an asymmetrical building. |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
Damn it. |
| 15:12 |
sfan5 |
ah, wait |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
I've already mentioned it. |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
It's even apparent on the screenshots in the forum. |
| 15:12 |
sfan5 |
if the X axis flips the X stair things also flips |
| 15:13 |
reactor |
No, X position and facing direction are separate |
| 15:13 |
reactor |
How long ago did you write that script eh? |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
umm |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
1 or 2 months I think |
| 15:14 |
reactor |
And you've forgotten how it works. Perfect. |
| 15:15 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 15:15 |
hoodedice |
reactor, do you have stairs in your house? |
| 15:15 |
reactor |
I do. |
| 15:15 |
reactor |
A lot of. |
| 15:16 |
reactor |
I live in a flat block. |
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| 15:16 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, how many stairs are there in your house? |
| 15:16 |
reactor |
5-storied block |
| 15:16 |
reactor |
about ten |
| 15:16 |
reactor |
ten staircases |
| 15:17 |
reactor |
or how many stairs themselves? |
| 15:17 |
reactor |
about 10x11=110 |
| 15:17 |
reactor |
Why? |
| 15:18 |
hoodedice |
You use your staircase everyday, yet are unsure about it's number. How can sfan5, who coded it 60 days ago remember how the fudge his code works? |
| 15:18 |
hoodedice |
*its |
| 15:18 |
sfan5 |
I know how my code works |
| 15:18 |
reactor |
hoodedice: I don't have Aspergers. |
| 15:18 |
reactor |
I don't count the damn stairs. |
| 15:18 |
reactor |
s/the // |
| 15:19 |
reactor |
sfan5: then why are you questioning how stairs are oriented? |
| 15:19 |
reactor |
if you know better? |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
reactor: I'm not questioning how stairs are oriented |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
but that code does 100% work |
| 15:21 |
hoodedice |
Peacock: Later |
| 15:21 |
sfan5 |
I think minetest should do more variation when spawning people: http://i.imgur.com/R48x1at.png |
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| 15:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Um... |
| 15:23 |
ShadowNinja |
for i=0;i<100: connect_client(hash(i))? |
| 15:23 |
ShadowNinja |
+i++; |
| 15:24 |
kaeza |
behold! |
| 15:25 |
kaeza |
rule 34 has reached Minetest :P |
| 15:25 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: no, for i=0; i<250; i++ do connect_client(random_name(), random_pass()) sleep(0.04) end |
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* kaeza |
runs off |
| 15:25 |
Calinou |
kaeza: never! |
| 15:25 |
sfan5 |
250 clients, 25 per second |
| 15:25 |
Calinou |
we just started getting rule 63 already |
| 15:26 |
kaeza |
ask sfan5; he made a Sam orgy :P |
| 15:26 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Your Minetest DOS program? |
| 15:26 |
ShadowNinja |
DoS* |
| 15:26 |
reactor |
sfan5: it does not work 100% |
| 15:27 |
reactor |
sfan5: it inverts the damn x coordinate |
| 15:27 |
reactor |
sfan5: you can even see it in the screenshots you posted as examples |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: umm.. |
| 15:27 |
reactor |
sfan5: examine the building thoroughly |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
reactor: I know that, I meant the change in the stair code |
| 15:27 |
reactor |
wiith Mark I Eyeball |
| 15:27 |
reactor |
sfan5: yes, and the change in the x code required that cahnge |
| 15:28 |
reactor |
change* |
| 15:28 |
reactor |
otherwise stairs would be flipped |
| 15:28 |
sfan5 |
reactor: THAT WAS THE THING I WAS MEANING BY "<sfan5> if the X axis flips the X stair things also flips" |
| 15:28 |
reactor |
you need to both flip x and stairs |
| 15:28 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: You mentioned that Minetest was very vulnerable to (D)DoS attacks and said you made a program to test it. |
| 15:28 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: I said that I made a program to test? When? where? |
| 15:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, maybe someone else made the DoS script. But I remember there was one. |
| 15:30 |
sfan5 |
some person made one and abuse a public wifi or so.. |
| 15:30 |
sfan5 |
mhm, now I remember I said how easy it was to make such script |
| 15:31 |
ShadowNinja |
You have one now... |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
the big thing is that you don't even need to get a single byte back from the server for it to work |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
-> you can spoof your IP |
| 15:31 |
MasterBot |
... |
| 15:31 |
ShadowNinja |
That is why me and Vanessa lowered our max playercounts. |
| 15:32 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: it doesn't cause high RAM usage, but CPU goess high |
| 15:32 |
sfan5 |
-s |
| 15:32 |
sfan5 |
RAM is probably the issue on most servers |
| 15:32 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: You should probably lower the default setting to 32 or so. |
| 15:32 |
sfan5 |
s/is/would probably be/ |
| 15:32 |
sfan5 |
good idea |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
limit used to be 20 by default |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
32 sounds good |
| 15:33 |
Calinou |
that wouldn't limit any server |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
100 is too high IMO |
| 15:34 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
also, who would like encrypted minetest connections? |
| 15:36 |
reactor |
yeah, why need that? |
| 15:36 |
reactor |
well, someone drawing huge swastikas would |
| 15:36 |
reactor |
but no one beside that |
| 15:36 |
sfan5 |
reactor: umm, no |
| 15:36 |
sfan5 |
secures the connection against evil providers |
| 15:37 |
sfan5 |
no, but MC has it too |
| 15:39 |
sfan5 |
no other opinions? |
| 15:42 |
nalkri |
I would like connections to be encrypted |
| 15:45 |
reactor |
what evil providers? |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
would they give a fuck about games? |
| 15:46 |
ShadowNinja |
I would like that for passwords, not sure how usefull it would be for the rest. |
| 15:46 |
reactor |
they usually block torrents and such |
| 15:46 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: for passwords we first need salted password |
| 15:47 |
sfan5 |
passwords* |
| 15:47 |
Exio4 |
passwords are already salted... |
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| 15:47 |
Exio4 |
...using the nickname |
| 15:47 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: They are salted, with the player name. |
| 15:47 |
Exio4 |
you got exio'd :P |
| 15:47 |
sfan5 |
reactor: the thing with evil providers was a joke, but people who could intercept your traffic could make you say in chat "heil hitler" instead of "hi, hows it going" |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: player name isn't enough if people use the same name on multiple servers |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
depends on how it is salted and hashed |
| 15:49 |
ShadowNinja |
Or, run a command like //pos1 -20,-20,-20 //pos2 20,20,20 //set air. |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
good example, I wouldn't have thought of that |
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| 15:50 |
ShadowNinja |
But how much will this slow the connection down? |
| 15:50 |
sfan5 |
maybe 2 or 3 ms |
| 15:50 |
sfan5 |
depending on the network speed too |
| 15:51 |
sfan5 |
all the attacker needs to do is pipe the traffic through and inject a packet when he wants |
| 15:51 |
reactor |
sfan5: meh. |
| 15:51 |
reactor |
who would do that |
| 15:51 |
nalkri |
Anon |
| 15:51 |
sfan5 |
s/wants/wants to/ |
| 15:51 |
reactor |
only sick kids would do that |
| 15:52 |
sfan5 |
that may be right, but it is still possible |
| 15:54 |
reactor |
what's the prpbability of that? |
| 15:54 |
reactor |
probability of anyone doing that |
| 15:54 |
reactor |
huh? |
| 15:54 |
reactor |
it's not worth programmers' time |
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Jordach |
you know when you login with the wrong password |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
that some of the server media comes with the packet telling you its wrong |
| 15:57 |
sapier1 |
Minetest network protocol isn't safe by any means protecting against attacks like that require a complete redesign of communication I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon |
| 15:57 |
sfan5 |
redesign? |
| 15:57 |
sfan5 |
we would "just" need a DHE implementation and an encryption algorithm |
| 15:57 |
sapier1 |
Of course whole client server communication has to be redone |
| 15:58 |
sapier1 |
You have to add authentication too |
| 15:58 |
sapier1 |
In best case put an envelope around any packet |
| 15:59 |
sapier1 |
In worst case this triggers more complex issues ... And of course don,t ever ask about compatibility ;-) |
| 15:59 |
sfan5 |
authentication for what? |
| 16:00 |
sapier1 |
Encryption isn't worth anything without authentication |
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sfan5 |
you mean there should be public key auth for servers? |
| 16:01 |
ShadowNinja |
When connecting the first time there should be a password confirmation. |
| 16:02 |
sfan5 |
that'd make it more complicated for the user |
| 16:04 |
reactor |
it's not worth the time |
| 16:04 |
reactor |
who's gonna fake a game? |
| 16:05 |
Exio4 |
reactor: it wasn't my comment |
| 16:05 |
reactor |
okay |
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Exio4 |
errr |
| 16:05 |
Exio4 |
RealBadAngel: |
| 16:05 |
reactor |
?! |
| 16:05 |
Exio4 |
used 'rea'<tab' |
| 16:05 |
Exio4 |
<tab>* :P |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
:P |
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RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, hows the rewrite? |
| 16:06 |
RealBadAngel |
btw im gonna merge wrench by now, its cool |
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MinetestBot |
PilzAdam is back! |
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Exio4 |
he isn't |
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* Exio4 |
slaps MinetestBot |
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* PilzAdam |
slaps Exio4 |
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* MinetestBot |
hugs PilzAdam |
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* Exio4 |
backstabs PilzAdam & hugs MinetestBot |
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Exio4 |
:3 |
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* khonkhortisan |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
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khonkhortisan |
other bots don't seem to like that. |
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* MinetestBot |
puts a khonkhortisan on kitten's head |
| 16:25 |
MasterBot |
Lol |
| 16:25 |
khonkhortisan |
*meow* |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
MasterBot, what do you do here? |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
you should be banned |
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* khonkhortisan |
puts a kitten on MasterBot, while staying on the kitten |
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Exio4 |
he should be kickbanned now for ban evading and make his original ban longer |
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| 16:26 |
Exio4 |
unless he /part(s) now :D |
| 16:26 |
PilzAdam |
!op |
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PilzAdam |
!deop |
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ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: I got alloy and electric furnaces fixed. Next is the grinder. |
| 16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, good. Have you seen wrench patch? |
| 16:31 |
ShadowNinja |
No. |
| 16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
check it out then |
| 16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
its cool |
| 16:32 |
RealBadAngel |
propably we will have to make regular/power tool versions of it |
| 16:32 |
RealBadAngel |
but the idea rocks the house |
| 16:32 |
ShadowNinja |
What does it do? |
| 16:32 |
RealBadAngel |
pick the full chest and place it somwhere else |
| 16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
or any machine |
| 16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
picked item holds all its inventories |
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reactor |
What is MasterBot trying to accomplish? |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
probably trolling |
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| 16:41 |
bas080 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899276873.png nodebox maker from withing minetest. |
| 16:41 |
bas080 |
within* |
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bas080 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899378884.png |
| 16:42 |
bas080 |
Lowl! |
| 16:43 |
khonkhortisan |
and that's inside the other blue building? |
| 16:44 |
bas080 |
The big blue table with his smaller nodebox brother |
| 16:46 |
bas080 |
scale of big model is 16x |
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bas080 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899989313.png |
| 16:53 |
bas080 |
You can make whatever easily! |
| 16:53 |
ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: Just make sure not to merge #70 or I will have another machine to fix... |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
!seen hoodedice |
| 16:53 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: hoodedice was last seen at 2013-07-31 15:21:11 UTC on #minetest |
| 16:54 |
ShadowNinja |
As soon as I finish this I will have a dozen issues to close... |
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PenguinDad |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103106#p103106 |
| 16:54 |
RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, im not mergin anything related to power |
| 16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
first your work, then smaller changes |
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PenguinDad |
Salut Calinou |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 17:00 |
reactor |
sfan5: use your Eyeball Mk. I on this: http://i.imgur.com/CC7215r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iiOqrCP.jpg |
| 17:01 |
reactor |
look at the part of the pavement that has been copied |
| 17:01 |
ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: Is there a tube side overlay texture? |
| 17:01 |
reactor |
sfan5: the hole was to the left, now it's to the right, that's what I'm talking about. |
| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
reactor: I've already got what you mean |
| 17:02 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 17:02 |
reactor |
Sorry. |
| 17:02 |
reactor |
Redundant then. |
| 17:05 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Does pipeworks include a tube overlay texture? If it doesn't it should, and it seems it replaces the chect and furnace tectures by suppliing annother default_{chest,furnace}_side.png texture. |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
sfan5: oh shit |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
wrong axit |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
axis |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
x is actually right |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
z is fl;ipped |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
could you make a patch for that |
| 17:17 |
reactor |
I will. |
| 17:18 |
sfan5 |
I didn't add that anyway because I had things to do |
| 17:18 |
sfan5 |
thanks |
| 17:18 |
reactor |
yep |
| 17:18 |
reactor |
I recall this patch then |
| 17:18 |
reactor |
tomorrow I'll try z |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
or not |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
no |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
sfan5: no, it was actually correct |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
it's just I'm so confused now I can't think straight |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
I'm not sure at all now |
| 17:19 |
reactor |
I'll tell you tomorrow if I was right about x |
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sfan5 |
k |
| 17:20 |
reactor |
it looks like minetest and minecraft have different vector bases |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: I don't remember if I used overlays in the tubes (I don't think so, just in pipes). And yeah, it modifies the chests' textures so that they have holes in the sides |
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Peacock |
why do ppl come on to MT servers expecting conversation but wont signup to forums or use IRC? *confused* |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
the same reason people dual boot |
| 17:25 |
Peacock |
? |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: pure laziness |
| 17:26 |
Peacock |
i dont get it :P |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
plus there are a few privacy nuts out there |
| 17:26 |
Peacock |
im not even at the keyboard most of the time and people storm off because im "ignoring them" lol |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
do what I did - create a second account to use incognito |
| 17:26 |
Peacock |
the alternative is shutting down the server everytime im busy lol |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
never tell anyone its you :) |
| 17:27 |
Peacock |
until you tell someone to follow the rules |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
or run a dedicated server instead of using the GUI |
| 17:27 |
Peacock |
minetestserver? thats what i started now |
| 17:27 |
Peacock |
the P4 is getting on in age, i was thinking of installing puppy to run the server |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
right, then you don't need to bother signing in if you're busy |
| 17:28 |
Peacock |
true |
| 17:28 |
Peacock |
and autoban is mature enough that none of the griefers managed any damage today |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
I may have to ...ahem...borrow that mod from you ;) |
| 17:29 |
Peacock |
well you have node protection right? |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
yeah but I don't protect *everything* |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
just the roads and the buildings that have an owner |
| 17:30 |
Peacock |
me neither |
| 17:30 |
Peacock |
but spawn and 1000 nodes around is |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
doesn't keep people from spilling lava all over the land etc. |
| 17:30 |
Peacock |
*500 |
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svuorela |
maybe I_should try playing on a server with other people once ... |
| 17:31 |
Peacock |
when my players fail to dig/place 10 times in a protected area, theyre jailed |
| 17:31 |
Peacock |
after 15 attempts, theyre banned |
| 17:31 |
svuorela |
how does one see a protected areas ? |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
svuorela: /list_areas |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
(if it'll let you, I forget) |
| 17:32 |
Kacey |
band camp… they are trying to kill me… |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
I wish node_ownership had a way to let you determine what area number belongs to a given node when you're trying to dig through a long list of owners |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
so where is there a fun server (where I can play with minecraft stable) ? |
| 17:33 |
Peacock |
http://pastebin.com/QFCns6vN |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
minecraft? |
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| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
um |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
eh. |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
typ |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
this is minetest. |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
typo |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
that's some typo :) |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
yeah |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
anyway, don't use stable. it's old. |
| 17:33 |
svuorela |
but the keys are all next to eachother. |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
of course they're next to each other, otherwise you'd need a keytable instead of a keyboard :P |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
all you need todo is add line in protection that ATTEMPTS[playername] + 1 everytime they fail to dig/place in protected area |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
rigfht |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
right* |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
I may eventually do something like that |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
and call handle_attempts after |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
(pastebin ^) |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
oh, I didn't see that |
| 17:35 |
Peacock |
and i suggest autobanning Guests since most of them come back as Guest#### |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
naw, no interact by default anyways |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
and I won't grant such to a "guest" |
| 17:35 |
Peacock |
that works too lol |
| 17:36 |
Peacock |
i like to give new ppl benefit of the doubt, they can build in freebuild areas, but try griefing protected areas and bye bye lol |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
as for digging up roads... dont have any connecting diff areas, i use transporters to connect them |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
transporters themselves, anyone can setup outgoing transporter, but only admin can set endpoints |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Make bumpmapping compatible with irrlicht 1.8 c6cb97e693 2013-07-31T10:35:28-07:00 http://git.io/e0zPcA |
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DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam, could a player-controlled entity (hovercrafts) have stepheight enabling them to go up slabs, stairs etc? |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 17:48 |
DanDuncombe |
What do I add? step_height or stepheight or what? |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
stepheight = 0.6 |
| 17:49 |
DanDuncombe |
I tried step_height = 1, but it didn't seem to do anything. |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
remove the _ |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
feel free to look at the docs |
| 17:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Doesn't work. |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
what Minetest version do you have? |
| 17:50 |
DanDuncombe |
Minetest 0.4.7, git number: |
| 17:50 |
DanDuncombe |
minetest-0.4.7-215e37a-win32 |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
thats too old |
| 17:50 |
DanDuncombe |
What is the newest then? |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
I can make new win build now |
| 17:51 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks. |
| 17:51 |
DanDuncombe |
Will it have stepheight comapatability? |
| 17:52 |
DanDuncombe |
How long will it take as well? |
| 17:52 |
DanDuncombe |
Just a rough idea |
| 17:55 |
reactor |
what is farmesh? |
| 17:56 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK in other/ |
| 17:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks! |
| 17:56 |
PilzAdam |
note that once you opened a world in it its not backwards compatible anymore |
| 17:56 |
DanDuncombe |
I don't mind |
| 17:56 |
PilzAdam |
we are working on fixing that currently |
| 17:57 |
DanDuncombe |
The menufixes3 one? |
| 17:57 |
DanDuncombe |
a59f85c |
| 17:57 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
c6cb97e-stuff |
| 17:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Where is that one? |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> DanDuncombe, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK in other/ |
| 17:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Is it in old or other? |
| 17:59 |
DanDuncombe |
'cause I can't see it. |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
ooops |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
its now in other/ |
| 18:00 |
DanDuncombe |
Wrong one? |
| 18:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Found it! |
| 18:01 |
svuorela |
so. trying a server without any trees :/ |
| 18:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Erm? |
| 18:01 |
DanDuncombe |
How do you do stuff? |
| 18:02 |
DanDuncombe |
Like,make a pick? |
| 18:02 |
nalkri |
Compress mud |
| 18:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok... |
| 18:03 |
PenguinDad |
svuorela which server? |
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| 18:04 |
svuorela |
PenguinDad: sfan5 I think |
| 18:14 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE: I have updated hovercraft to go up stairs and slabs, the really very latest PilzAdam build is required. Commit number c6cb97e-stuff in his dropbox. |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
I'll check it later. |
| 18:14 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok. |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
i have a folder with all known textures needed to make a texture pack |
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Jordach |
(for minetest_game 0.4.7) |
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| 18:20 |
DanDuncombe |
For evey mod ever? |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
the easy way to get a list like that is to download HDX 16px :P |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
(it's only a 20MB download) |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
though that skips a couple of mods the higher sizes support |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, vanilla textures only |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
so it serves another usage: remote_media |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
for i in `find minetestfolder/ -type f -name *.png`; do cp $i alltextures/ ; echo $i >> texturelist.txt; done |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
(of course that'll grab a few files that aren't needed for a texture pack, and it assumes minetest_game is installed under games/ like usual) |
| 18:24 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: I think Jordach has made it for windows users |
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| 18:24 |
Jordach |
and considering im using windows myself |
| 18:24 |
PenguinDad |
meow NekoGloop |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
surely windows has some kind of shell that can do that ^^^ |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
hi neko |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
i suggest i make life easy for the non technical texturers |
| 18:25 |
* NekoGloop |
sits on PenguinDad's head |
| 18:25 |
PenguinDad |
:) |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
[15:24:52] <VanessaE> surely windows has some kind of shell that can do that ^^^ |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
> windows |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
> useful shell |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
the only useful shell i know is msys/cygwin and is slow as fuck |
| 18:27 |
Exio4 |
VanessaE: it will take minimal textures 'for it' too |
| 18:27 |
Exio4 |
and find i in `` isn't uber safe :P |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
it's safe enough for minetest files :) |
| 18:28 |
kaeza |
>msys >slow >wat |
| 18:28 |
* NekoGloop |
bites kaeza |
| 18:28 |
ruskie |
powershell is fairly useful |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: use it |
| 18:29 |
kaeza |
are you using a 386? :P |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: windows makes it run like a 386 |
| 18:29 |
NekoGloop |
I'm using 386 pokemon |
| 18:29 |
kaeza |
Exio4, lol no |
| 18:29 |
* Peacock |
skins NekoGloop to make bodysuit |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: lol yes |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
at least in the hardware i tried |
| 18:29 |
kaeza |
Exio4, ProTip: use rxvt, not a plain cmd prompt |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
i mean in terms of 'real scripts' |
| 18:30 |
Exio4 |
sed + bash regex parsing + 'stuff' |
| 18:30 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/XTs_TZFjbJ8 |
| 18:30 |
PenguinDad |
!title |
| 18:30 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Buffalo Bill Dance Goodbye Horses Silence of the Lambs - YouTube |
| 18:30 |
kaeza |
it's not *TAHT* slow |
| 18:30 |
kaeza |
THAT * |
| 18:30 |
Exio4 |
it is |
| 18:30 |
Exio4 |
running something native, was about 1~ minute with some script |
| 18:31 |
Exio4 |
the same was 15~ minutes in the same hardware and with LESS things using the cpu |
| 18:31 |
kaeza |
then you may be using a 386 indeed |
| 18:31 |
Exio4 |
the hardware i used was, first, a laptop with a sempron, an old celeron, and an intel atom |
| 18:31 |
kaeza |
it used to be really fast when I had my Celeron @333MHz |
| 18:31 |
Exio4 |
msys fast? |
| 18:31 |
Exio4 |
XD |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
did you compare it with the native performance? |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
faster than MSVC at least :P |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
i mean, don't run ls, only |
| 18:32 |
svuorela |
PenguinDad: you are standing still ? |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: i'm talking about its shell |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
is there a tool that will delete "immortal" entities? |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
MSVC doesn't have a shell |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
does it? |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
yes it does |
| 18:32 |
PenguinDad |
svuorela: I'm loading |
| 18:32 |
kaeza |
well, not a shell |
| 18:33 |
svuorela |
PenguinDad: oh. |
| 18:33 |
kaeza |
that's what cmd.exe/command.com is for |
| 18:33 |
svuorela |
maybe I shouldn't be hitting you with a block of dirt |
| 18:33 |
Exio4 |
cmd.exe has an use? TIL |
| 18:33 |
kaeza |
with the right configuration, it's bearable |
| 18:33 |
Exio4 |
if you have virtualization hardware acell |
| 18:34 |
kaeza |
(read configuration as, tons of batch files for switching paths and such) |
| 18:34 |
Exio4 |
acel, or w/e |
| 18:34 |
Exio4 |
adding a small layer of virtualization is faster than plain 'msys' |
| 18:34 |
Exio4 |
or cygwin |
| 18:34 |
Exio4 |
for a shell, that is |
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kaeza |
the problem is not the shell itself; it's the stupid Windows not caching stuff properly |
| 18:37 |
kaeza |
or just the effing inefficient windoes exe loader |
| 18:37 |
kaeza |
dows* |
| 18:38 |
kaeza |
anyway, I read on the internet, so it must be true |
| 18:38 |
Exio4 |
yes, i know |
| 18:39 |
Exio4 |
it is still slow as hell though |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
the more you use an app the faster it goes in windows |
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Jordach |
aseprite used to be slow as hell until i started using it daily |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
now it runs moderately quick |
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ShadowNinja |
*Sigh* So far I have rolled back two good players because they messed with a greifing. Now I have to lose everything done within the last day. |
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Peacock |
dont they know not to eff with a grief? |
| 19:03 |
kaeza |
LOL https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103103#p103103 |
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| 19:03 |
kaeza |
very fitting :) |
| 19:03 |
Peacock |
saw that one b4 :p |
| 19:03 |
Peacock |
its a very old joke :P |
| 19:04 |
kaeza |
I don't mean about the comic itself, but about the topic |
| 19:04 |
Peacock |
ugh |
| 19:04 |
Peacock |
the JJ abrams effect |
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| 19:04 |
Peacock |
it would be better with more lens flares :p |
| 19:06 |
Peacock |
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1srVB7Ihd-8/TUThNm4aPiI/AAAAAAAAAgE/Zeem7AMzuqU/s400/Screen%2Bshot%2B2011-01-30%2Bat%2B11.53.40%2BAM%2B%25282%2529.png |
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ShadowNinja |
Rollback_check takes a minute. grep takes miliseconds. |
| 19:08 |
Peacock |
meh rollback, my users can either build a shield or request citizenship |
| 19:10 |
ShadowNinja |
Great, this is what, the tenth time I have banned this one player? |
| 19:10 |
Peacock |
besides if griefers sign in with different names they can overlap griefs |
| 19:10 |
Peacock |
ten times? cant we have unique client IDs? |
| 19:11 |
ShadowNinja |
This is at least the third time. |
| 19:11 |
Peacock |
i know your pain lol |
| 19:11 |
Peacock |
some people come back every day |
| 19:11 |
Peacock |
and when you ban them, they try signing on as guests two seconds later |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
its not dificult to release/renew IP |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
hell back in the city i would spoof MAC adresses for free wifi |
| 19:12 |
ShadowNinja |
But they should be IP banned. And it is always the same username. |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
it only bans IPs? then why put the name in the logs? lol |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
i thought it applied to both IP/name |
| 19:13 |
ShadowNinja |
I think it is IP AND player name. |
| 19:16 |
Peacock |
i think ive had some banned people come back under the same name |
| 19:16 |
Peacock |
or variations of it |
| 19:18 |
Peacock |
i dont know what our own people are doing to MC, but i get alot of MC players trying to come grief me too |
| 19:18 |
kaeza |
https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban :3 |
| 19:18 |
ShadowNinja |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933807/ |
| 19:18 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: He isn't listed for some reason. |
| 19:19 |
ShadowNinja |
I added him to future_ban ... again. |
| 19:19 |
Peacock |
i already ban guest names, thinking of adding anything with MC or minecraft in it too :p |
| 19:20 |
Peacock |
client should just dump guest names and force ppl to chose a name |
| 19:20 |
ShadowNinja |
He is also unaffected by rollback I think. But I did rm my log... |
| 19:21 |
kaeza |
ban users with all caps, and all lowercase letters, and who use l3375p33k, and... |
| 19:21 |
Peacock |
ah, you get brazilian griefers too :p |
| 19:21 |
Peacock |
i get half a dozen spanish speaking griefers sign on at the same time, i almost wonder if its not a botnet or soemthing lol |
| 19:21 |
NekoGloop |
How do these sound for my Pokemon hack's starters? Trapinch, Spheal, and Aron |
| 19:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Nope, still unaffected by rollback. I will have to fix this manually. |
| 19:23 |
Peacock |
wanna share banlists? |
| 19:23 |
Peacock |
thinking of writing a mod that posts mine to pastebin |
| 19:23 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, not bad |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 19:24 |
NekoGloop |
Trapinch is hardmode! :D |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
lol xban |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
inb4 shitstorm |
| 19:27 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, is the server updated for the slab/stair hovercrafts? |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
not yet |
| 19:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay. |
| 19:27 |
DanDuncombe |
How recent is the map download for the server? |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
you mean the overview map? |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
or the actual world files? |
| 19:29 |
DanDuncombe |
The world files and overview map. |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
kaeza: ban users whose name is surrounded with xX |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
the overview map is several days old at most, the world files aren't available for download anymore (and are a couple weeks old at least) |
| 19:30 |
Peacock |
xX? |
| 19:30 |
kaeza |
Calinou, lol +1 |
| 19:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Peacock: Like this: xXlolzgrieferXx |
| 19:31 |
kaeza |
xXt3h_snipurXx <-- some n00b playing CS the other day |
| 19:32 |
Peacock |
just banned miner lol |
| 19:33 |
Peacock |
seriously, anounce banlists like you anounce servers lol |
| 19:33 |
Peacock |
dunno why devs are more concerned with griefers privacy lol |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
announcing IPs isn't that good |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
might as well publicly disclose IPs when players join/leave |
| 19:34 |
Peacock |
tell me if im wrong, but doesn't IRC share ban lists? |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
it does, but you can use cloaks |
| 19:35 |
DanDuncombe |
Why does minetest_mapper only work for some worlds, with others throwing a 'Db' error? |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
it's not like IRC is too modern either |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
well griefing kinda discourages multiplayer lol |
| 19:36 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, how do I add new nodes to colors.txt with minetest_mapper? |
| 19:36 |
Peacock |
text editor :p |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
or editing builtin to make a list |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
But how to add a new node? |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
Like, how to add the colour? |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
look at the list you already have, im sure youll figure it out :-) |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
What colour format are they? |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
rgb? |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
Maybe they are RGB? |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
I will try it. |
| 19:38 |
PenguinDad |
they RGB |
| 19:38 |
Peacock |
dan, are you MarkV? |
| 19:38 |
DanDuncombe |
No, I am DanDuncombe |
| 19:39 |
PenguinDad |
real? ;) |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
you talk like mark v lol |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, it cant be Markv, hes banned </naiv> |
| 19:39 |
DanDuncombe |
My forum profile: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=5529 |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
forum profiles dont give any identifiable information lol |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
not for us users at least |
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DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, you have a huge colours.txt for minetestmapper, could you add support for my camo mod? All the stuff like fake nodes can be the same colour, just the actual camo stuff would be new colours. |
| 19:50 |
VanessaE |
remind me later, kinda busy right now, then going to bed after this |
| 19:51 |
DanDuncombe |
You have many years to do it in :) |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you lazy fuck |
| 19:52 |
Jordach |
it's 9pm here |
| 19:53 |
Peacock |
its earlier than that in N.A. lol |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
going on 4pm here, and I haven't slept but 2 hours since yesterday afternoon |
| 19:55 |
* NekoGloop |
sits on VanessaE's head |
| 19:55 |
VanessaE |
so sod off :) |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
pansy :P w/ back pains havent slept more than 3 hours/night all week :p |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
ill have to put off my invasion of Czechoslovakia to next week :/ |
| 19:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Why does minetest_mapper only work on some worlds? |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
is your world running? |
| 19:59 |
DanDuncombe |
Nope. Turns out they seem to have to be a one word long name only. |
| 20:00 |
PenguinDad |
DanDuncombe have you tried this 'This is a long name' |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
Darmok_and_Jallad_at_Tanagra? |
| 20:03 |
DanDuncombe |
It always works as long as there are no spaces in the name, it seems. |
| 20:04 |
DanDuncombe |
My map of the hydroelectric dam (a map I made, is on the forum) http://s24.postimg.org/qtl6a5oqd/hydroelectric_dam.png |
| 20:04 |
Peacock |
what about '' or ""? |
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DanDuncombe |
Maybe, yes |
| 20:05 |
DanDuncombe |
Has anyone got a good submarine, in we format? |
| 20:06 |
Peacock |
i had a good 12" sub with smoked meat, peperoni and steak :-) |
| 20:06 |
nalkri |
Would it be helpful or churlish to point out that dams should curve? |
| 20:06 |
Peacock |
the Triple Bypass Special :D |
| 20:07 |
DanDuncombe |
nalkri: This was a while ago, now, and anyway, the main structure is default:steelblock, so it should stay strong. |
| 20:07 |
nalkri |
But what it's holding back is default:shitloadofwater |
| 20:08 |
DanDuncombe |
It worked awesomely with finite water. It gradually pours through the twin turbines. |
| 20:09 |
Peacock |
how long ago you built it? |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
>finite worker >working |
| 20:10 |
DanDuncombe |
I made it absolutely ages ago, couldn't say when. look at the forum post. |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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svuorela |
with mesecons, what's the trick to connect a pressure plate to opening a door ? |
| 20:29 |
Miner_48er |
opening it or closing it? |
| 20:31 |
svuorela |
preferably both. close it when I'm coming 'home'. and opening it when I'm about to leave |
| 20:32 |
svuorela |
if I just place a pressure plate in front of a door, it keeps the door open until I'm about to leave, then closes it when I'm about to go thru |
| 20:34 |
DanDuncombe |
Place it inside |
| 20:34 |
svuorela |
DanDuncombe: that's what I've tried |
| 20:35 |
DanDuncombe |
I will do a screenshot |
| 20:35 |
PenguinDad |
svuorela behind the door |
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DanDuncombe |
Like so: To go out, stand on pressure plate and when door opens, leave. To come back in, open door, stand on pressure plate for a couple of seconds, then go into your house. http://s22.postimg.org/pgcvnsgep/screenshot_43988811.png |
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Kacey |
svuorela, i made a ton of these, maybe your door is backwards... |
| 20:39 |
Kacey |
err... nvm your plate is fast... i misunderstood the question |
| 20:40 |
svuorela |
DanDuncombe: looks kind of like my setup where the door behaves exactly opposite |
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svuorela |
oh. if I move the door to 'the other side' of the door hole, it kind of behaves |
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Jordach |
Taoki[laptop]|aw, away nicks are bad |
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DanDuncombe |
I have Minetest 0.4.7 stable on Kubuntu, what is the command to update it to the very latest available git? |
| 22:19 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, you may know. |
| 22:21 |
DanDuncombe |
Is anyone here? |
| 22:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Hellooooo! |
| 22:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Anyone there? |
| 22:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Please, someone help! |
| 22:24 |
Evergreen |
Idk, I don't use Kubuntu. :P |
| 22:25 |
Evergreen |
I use ubuntu |
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DanDuncombe |
Evergreen, it uses sudo like ubuntu |
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DanDuncombe |
I need an update command of some sort. |
| 22:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Are you there Evergreen? |
| 22:35 |
DanDuncombe |
ANYONE? |
| 22:36 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, download the Minetest source and read the README for instructions how to build |
| 22:37 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, where is the latest kubuntu source? |
| 22:37 |
Evergreen |
Github |
| 22:37 |
Evergreen |
:P |
| 22:38 |
DanDuncombe |
But where on github is the thing. |
| 22:38 |
Evergreen |
Github is the source for all linux distros |
| 22:38 |
DanDuncombe |
I have to go now. |
| 22:38 |
Evergreen |
You don't know where the github minetest repo is ?! |
| 22:38 |
Evergreen |
*sigh* |
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| 22:39 |
DakotaHipp |
i got banned from a server for no reason |
| 22:39 |
PilzAdam |
DakotaHipp, what server? |
| 22:39 |
DakotaHipp |
Rays and my huses that took forever to build were tore down |
| 22:40 |
DakotaHipp |
*houses |
| 22:40 |
DakotaHipp |
i was told i break small rules but i dont, idk what to do |
| 22:42 |
DakotaHipp |
what do i do |
| 22:42 |
Evergreen |
Don't ask us, ask the people who run the server |
| 22:42 |
DakotaHipp |
no reply |
| 22:43 |
PilzAdam |
DakotaHipp, how about answering my question? |
| 22:43 |
Evergreen |
Well, we can't really help |
| 22:43 |
DakotaHipp |
Rays Server |
| 22:43 |
Evergreen |
The skyblock server? |
| 22:44 |
PilzAdam |
this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3860 ? |
| 22:44 |
DakotaHipp |
its called Rays Server (have fun building a town!!) |
| 22:44 |
DakotaHipp |
yes |
| 22:44 |
Evergreen |
Oh yeah, got them mixed up |
| 22:45 |
Evergreen |
What is you ingame name? I could try asking |
| 22:45 |
DakotaHipp |
DakotaHipp1 |
| 22:45 |
Evergreen |
Okay, I'll try and ask ray |
| 22:46 |
DakotaHipp |
thank you |
| 22:46 |
PilzAdam |
apparantley someone created a fake account with my name on this server :-) |
| 22:46 |
PilzAdam |
*apparently |
| 22:46 |
DakotaHipp |
that sucks lol |
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| 22:47 |
DakotaHipp |
t im reallly mad right now i spent alot of money and time on them houses |
| 22:47 |
Evergreen |
That is the one flaw in the minetest name system |
| 22:47 |
PilzAdam |
or is there some kind of default password? |
| 22:47 |
Evergreen |
I asked ray, and I'll see if I get a response |
| 22:48 |
DakotaHipp |
is he online |
| 22:48 |
Evergreen |
No |
| 22:48 |
PilzAdam |
wtf? why can I connect with an empty password? |
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| 22:48 |
DakotaHipp |
with an emty password? |
| 22:49 |
DakotaHipp |
nolan is the one whoo blocked me though |
| 22:49 |
DakotaHipp |
wait this is the reply i recieved from nolan |
| 22:50 |
DakotaHipp |
I banned you because you give me problems, and i don't like the way u act, and u break many small rules. I do not owe you anything, Houses were tore down because we do not keep buildings made by banned players |
| 22:51 |
DakotaHipp |
?? i dont do any of that |
| 22:52 |
Evergreen |
I'll get the opinion of ray |
| 22:52 |
Evergreen |
I don't like nolan very much |
| 22:52 |
DakotaHipp |
he never really helped me he was a smart ellec he should be stripped of his privs |
| 22:55 |
DakotaHipp |
im so mad right now! i dont know what to do |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
great |
| 22:55 |
PilzAdam |
DakotaHipp, <nolan> Well, he has broken many small rules, argued with me (which is no crime but made me mad), he also dis-obeyed me many times. then one day he said *This server sucks its too complicated , that got me, so i banned him |
| 22:56 |
kaeza |
now hybriddawg is spamming on github >:/ |
| 22:57 |
DakotaHipp |
i did not di obey him and i didnt say this server sucks i said this is to complicated bye |
| 22:57 |
PilzAdam |
DakotaHipp, any comments on that? |
| 22:57 |
PilzAdam |
nolan says that your complaining is the reason why you are banned |
| 22:57 |
DakotaHipp |
because he was arguing with me becaus eim not a mod but i act like one then i said that |
| 22:58 |
DakotaHipp |
i wasnt comlaining! i said this is to complicated |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
Im sure you can get back on the server if you stop it |
| 22:58 |
DakotaHipp |
stop what |
| 22:58 |
PilzAdam |
whatever nolan means by "complaining" |
| 22:59 |
DakotaHipp |
and hes already tore down my houses and took everything in my chest |
| 23:02 |
PilzAdam |
DakotaHipp, why do you come here and complain then? |
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| 23:03 |
DAkotaHipp |
sorry lost connection |
| 23:03 |
PilzAdam |
<PilzAdam> DakotaHipp, why do you come here and complain then? |
| 23:04 |
DAkotaHipp |
i didnt come here to comlain i came here for advice on what to do thank you |
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| 23:05 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt seem that you want to rejoin the server |
| 23:05 |
DAkotaHipp |
as i was saying he was arguing with me because i act like a mod and im not one and i said its to comlicated and left |
| 23:05 |
DAkotaHipp |
i do want to rejoin the server |
| 23:06 |
DAkotaHipp |
did anyone get rays word |
| 23:06 |
PilzAdam |
how about apologising then? |
| 23:06 |
Jordach |
Peacock, hockey, the only game that turns Canadians violet |
| 23:06 |
Jordach |
violent* |
| 23:07 |
DAkotaHipp |
for what Adam |
| 23:07 |
DAkotaHipp |
and i already did in a PM |
| 23:07 |
PilzAdam |
what was his reaction? |
| 23:07 |
DAkotaHipp |
no reply |
| 23:09 |
DAkotaHipp |
he didnt reply |
| 23:11 |
DAkotaHipp |
hello |
| 23:12 |
PilzAdam |
DAkotaHipp, to be honest, I wouldnt unban you either; I dont have the feeling that you understand what you have done wrong |
| 23:13 |
DAkotaHipp |
can you help me understand because i dont see anything ive done wrong |
| 23:13 |
jin_xi |
everyone just make your own servers. with hookers and whiskey |
| 23:13 |
PilzAdam |
DAkotaHipp, I wasnt there, so I dont know; ask nolan |
| 23:13 |
DAkotaHipp |
lol |
| 23:14 |
DAkotaHipp |
he wont reply to me and if you werent there why you saying DAkotaHipp, to be honest, I wouldnt unban you either; I dont have the feeling that you understand what you have done wrong |
| 23:15 |
PilzAdam |
DAkotaHipp, I just judge from your behaviour here |
| 23:16 |
DAkotaHipp |
my behavior? |
| 23:17 |
DAkotaHipp |
alll i want to do is get unbanned is it going to happen or not |
| 23:17 |
Uberi |
well you need to talk to the people who can actually do that |
| 23:17 |
Exio4 |
> getting unbanned |
| 23:17 |
Exio4 |
> avoiding a ban |
| 23:17 |
DAkotaHipp |
wich would be nolan who wont reply to me |
| 23:17 |
Exio4 |
you should talk in PM with an OP |
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DAkotaHipp |
speak of the devil |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
and there he is |
| 23:18 |
Uberi |
well, that's coincidental |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
Uberi, actually that was me on the server telling nolan_ how to join IRC :-) |
| 23:19 |
DAkotaHipp |
oh i was about to say thats wierd |
| 23:19 |
Uberi |
hahaha, figures :P |
| 23:19 |
DAkotaHipp |
Nolan why am i banned |
| 23:19 |
nolan_ |
You know why |
| 23:20 |
DAkotaHipp |
im sorry but i dont |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
apparently he doesn't |
| 23:20 |
nolan_ |
He's broken many rules |
| 23:20 |
nolan_ |
disobeyed me |
| 23:20 |
DAkotaHipp |
how? |
| 23:20 |
nolan_ |
saying unneeded comments |
| 23:20 |
nolan_ |
may i need say more he has done? |
| 23:20 |
DAkotaHipp |
like what name one |
| 23:20 |
DAkotaHipp |
yes please |
| 23:20 |
nolan_ |
Do not lave items laying around |
| 23:21 |
Exio4 |
whatever, #minetest-drama 2013 |
| 23:21 |
DAkotaHipp |
i dont! |
| 23:21 |
nolan_ |
i found over 200 itmes laying in stacks of (1) right inside your home |
| 23:21 |
DAkotaHipp |
i didnt put them there |
| 23:21 |
nolan_ |
Then who did? |
| 23:21 |
kaeza |
Exio4, better than quiet channel :D |
| 23:21 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, introduced by PilzAdam! :D |
| 23:21 |
nolan_ |
also saying *This server is so complicated i quit and more* |
| 23:21 |
DAkotaHipp |
thats why i was sayin ray needs to clear objects and idk nolan |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
quiet channel > drama channel |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
inb4 PilzAdam quiets me |
| 23:22 |
DAkotaHipp |
yes because you were arguing with me |
| 23:22 |
nolan_ |
Im the moderator |
| 23:22 |
DAkotaHipp |
and |
| 23:22 |
DAkotaHipp |
? |
| 23:22 |
kaeza |
Exio4, "Intrusos en el Minetest", con Sam Rial :P |
| 23:22 |
nolan_ |
hold on let me state the rule |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
lol kaeza? |
| 23:22 |
PilzAdam |
DAkotaHipp, the moderator on a server is always right |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
seems legit |
| 23:22 |
DAkotaHipp |
you aint gonna treat me like that moderator or not |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
DAkotaHipp: it is 'his server, his rules' |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
uh, yes he is |
| 23:22 |
Exio4 |
deal with it |
| 23:23 |
DAkotaHipp |
i know Adam |
| 23:23 |
Exio4 |
you don't like those? play in other server |
| 23:23 |
Exio4 |
that is simple |
| 23:23 |
DAkotaHipp |
im not like yall i dont let people walk all over me |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
the only one over the moderators is the host |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
and above everything else is the almighty PilzAdam |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
;-) |
| 23:23 |
DAkotaHipp |
hahah |
| 23:24 |
* Exio4 |
takeovers PilzAdam's place and renames minetest to exiotest |
| 23:24 |
DAkotaHipp |
Nolan im sorry for what "i did" |
| 23:24 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, pls name the default character Fiola |
| 23:24 |
Uberi |
DAkotaHipp: the fact of the matter is, when you join a server, you agree to be subject to that server's whims |
| 23:24 |
DAkotaHipp |
i know |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
Rule: Do not argue with a moderator or admin, its not a crime, but it will make them lose patience with u and will make them want to ban or punish u more |
| 23:25 |
DAkotaHipp |
i didnt break any rules except for arguing |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
Yes u did |
| 23:25 |
DAkotaHipp |
like what |
| 23:25 |
Exio4 |
. |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
u broke 3 |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
Dont argue |
| 23:25 |
PilzAdam |
and we are at the beginning again... |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
dont leave items around |
| 23:25 |
DAkotaHipp |
i didnt put them objects there but i did build mt house over them yes |
| 23:25 |
nolan_ |
and dont keep asking to be a mod |
| 23:26 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: 10: print 'drama'; goto 10 |
| 23:26 |
DAkotaHipp |
i wasnt asking i was staing that i wanted to be one |
| 23:26 |
nolan_ |
u asked me multiple times |
| 23:26 |
DAkotaHipp |
no i didnt im |
| 23:26 |
Exio4 |
can you move this to a query? |
| 23:26 |
DAkotaHipp |
im done arguin with you |
| 23:27 |
DAkotaHipp |
im sorry for breaking 3 rules |
| 23:27 |
nolan_ |
alright dude, since u refuse to admit u did anything wrong you are not getting unbanned, because if i do, this wil probably be how u act in rays |
| 23:27 |
DAkotaHipp |
1 of wich wasnt me |
| 23:27 |
nolan_ |
Done |
| 23:27 |
DAkotaHipp |
um i did admit it read |
| 23:27 |
nolan_ |
-_- You are not getting unbanned, you may as well just stop complaining and find another server |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
you say it but you dont mean it |
| 23:28 |
DAkotaHipp |
i do mean it Adam |
| 23:28 |
DAkotaHipp |
just give me one more chance to prove myself |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
<DAkotaHipp> 1 of wich wasnt me |
| 23:28 |
nolan_ |
I gave you chances before you even were banned |
| 23:28 |
DAkotaHipp |
well i didnt know that |
| 23:29 |
nolan_ |
Thats not my problem |
| 23:29 |
DAkotaHipp |
adam yes im not admiting to that one because it really wasnt me |
| 23:29 |
nolan_ |
Look im done here, you can argue all you want, but unban is not happening |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
"i only broke 2 rules! not 3!" |
| 23:29 |
DAkotaHipp |
just let me prove myself |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
how funny |
| 23:29 |
DAkotaHipp |
there you go |
| 23:29 |
nolan_ |
dude seriously even after i tell u, you still continue |
| 23:29 |
* Exio4 |
setups a nuke inside DAkotaHipp's house and runs |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, his house is already destroyed by the moderators |
| 23:30 |
Exio4 |
:( |
| 23:30 |
DAkotaHipp |
if i do |
| 23:30 |
nolan_ |
Baned players homes are not kept |
| 23:30 |
nolan_ |
Banned* |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
nolan_: you'll end better ignoring him, he will bother you til you say fuck you or something similar |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
but saying that would be 'against the rules' so let him be annoying and he will leave |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
:D |
| 23:31 |
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| 23:31 |
nolan_ |
Nah he will still go on |
| 23:31 |
nolan_ |
no matter what |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
trust me, that is how irc works ^^ |
| 23:31 |
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| 23:32 |
Dakota |
i got disconnected sorry what |
| 23:32 |
PilzAdam |
nolan_, I will simply kickban him if you ignore him and he starts a monologue |
| 23:32 |
Guest8152 |
im dakota |
| 23:32 |
nolan_ |
Okay PilzAdam, and why don't you stay and play rays for awhile :) |
| 23:32 |
Guest8152 |
why doest it say guest |
| 23:32 |
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| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
nolan_, I dont really play on any servers |
| 23:33 |
Uberi |
Guest8152: you need to identify or something like that |
| 23:33 |
Guest8152 |
please let me prove myself dude one time |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
nolan_, but the server is pretty good, it runs without major lags and it has Simple Mobs installed, which is quite impressive |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
"if it has my mob, i play!" |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
-- PilzAdam |
| 23:34 |
Exio4 |
s/mob/mod/ |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
Guest8152, the discussion is over |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
both work |
| 23:34 |
nolan_ |
Well, when there is like 5 - 15 players on, it lags for 30 seconds or so but anything u did during the lag usually saves, sometimes peices that u did during lag will dissapear |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, I have too many mods for that to happen :-) |
| 23:34 |
nolan_ |
I wish u would have stayed to at least see my castle |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
maybe I come back later |
| 23:35 |
nolan_ |
But hey i might post screenshots if i figure out how to do it with Jodach's help |
| 23:35 |
nolan_ |
My castle is pretty big, used like 100,000 blocks on it so far |
| 23:35 |
Exio4 |
f12 |
| 23:35 |
Exio4 |
:P |
| 23:36 |
nolan_ |
Yea i know how to do it, but to post it on the forums.. |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
nolan_, http://mg.viewskew.com/ upload it here, and then simply link it in the [img] tags |
| 23:36 |
nolan_ |
I have a page saved of Jordach telling osmebody how to |
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| 23:36 |
nolan_ |
somebody* |
| 23:36 |
Jordach |
nolan_, huh |
| 23:37 |
PilzAdam |
somepony* |
| 23:37 |
Jordach |
nolan_, you can get my name right by typing Jo then the two arrows |
| 23:38 |
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| 23:38 |
nolan_ |
Wow |
| 23:38 |
Dakota3 |
i keep disconnecting |
| 23:39 |
Dakota3 |
Does anyone use Ubuntu im downloading it right now |
| 23:39 |
Exio4 |
i can use a chainsaw, does that count? :) |
| 23:39 |
Dakota3 |
? |
| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
Dakota3, you do know that Unity sends your private data to amazon? |
| 23:40 |
Dakota3 |
really? |
| 23:41 |
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| 23:41 |
Dakota3 |
thats creepy |
| 23:41 |
PilzAdam |
use Kubuntu, it has KDE as DE, which doesnt do stuff like that |
| 23:41 |
Exio4 |
-1- Risposta CTCP da Dakota3: VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.95 Safari/537.36 |
| 23:41 |
Dakota3 |
okay ill look into it |
| 23:41 |
Exio4 |
tl;dr he uses google chrome |
| 23:41 |
Exio4 |
it is sending his info to google |
| 23:41 |
Dakota3 |
i thought an irc channel was for chatting in the servers lol |
| 23:42 |
Dakota3 |
how do you know i use google chrome? |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, "Risposta" is spanish or something? |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
Dakota3, webchat writes it as a response to CTCP VERSION |
| 23:42 |
Uberi |
or just turn off the very first setting in the Unity privacy options |
| 23:42 |
nolan_ |
What am i using :) |
| 23:43 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: italian |
| 23:43 |
Dakota3 |
i was like woah thats creepy |
| 23:43 |
Exio4 |
Respuesta CTCP de Dakota3 would be spanish |
| 23:43 |
PilzAdam |
nolan_, chrome too |
| 23:43 |
PilzAdam |
which kinda sucks |
| 23:43 |
nolan_ |
lol |
| 23:43 |
PilzAdam |
google is evil |
| 23:44 |
Dakota3 |
what browser should i use |
| 23:44 |
Dakota3 |
firefox |
| 23:44 |
Evergreen |
I use ubuntu |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
| 23:44 |
Exio4 |
firefox, or at least, chromium with disabled shit |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
whichever one works best for you, Dakota3 |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
lynx |
| 23:44 |
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| 23:45 |
Evergreen |
I usually use chrome, which is a crap ton better than internet explorer |
| 23:45 |
Uberi |
LED wired into the ethernet cable |
| 23:45 |
Uberi |
and a pushbutton switch |
| 23:45 |
nolan_ |
Why is google chrome evil? |
| 23:45 |
Uberi |
nolan_: RLZ identifiers! |
| 23:45 |
Exio4 |
it sends your private info to google |
| 23:45 |
Exio4 |
=> it is evil |
| 23:45 |
Exio4 |
paranoic people for the win! |
| 23:45 |
nolan_ |
i dont care lol |
| 23:45 |
nolan_ |
let them know about me |
| 23:46 |
Uberi |
I use it anyways because it's got software WebGL support |
| 23:46 |
nolan_ |
Its fast, for me |
| 23:46 |
nolan_ |
besides this computer is so crappy and |
| 23:47 |
nolan_ |
the comp im using i could give a crap less about security it sucks |
| 23:47 |
nolan_ |
i use a different computer for security :) |
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| 23:48 |
Dakota5 |
why do i keep getting disconnected |
| 23:49 |
nolan_ |
why are you making so many accounts |
| 23:49 |
Dakota5 |
well thank yall i gtg |
| 23:49 |
Dakota5 |
nolan because i keep getting disconnected then the one i was using wont work |
| 23:50 |
Dakota5 |
it says not avaliable so i make a new one |
| 23:50 |
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| 23:50 |
nolan_ |
hey sokomine u there? |
| 23:50 |
Dakota5 |
nolan do you use windows 7? |
| 23:51 |
nolan_ |
its windows something i beleive its 7 or 8 |
| 23:52 |
Dakota5 |
cool |
| 23:53 |
Dakota5 |
i have 7 but im downloading ubuntu and probably gonna switch to kubuntu becaus eof what adam said |
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| 23:56 |
Jordach |
Dakota5, just because someone says something is awesome, doesnt mean you will possibly make a very bad error and possibly delete all your files when installing new operating systems |
| 23:56 |
Dakota5 |
i know i already deleted all my files |
| 23:56 |
nolan_ |
^_^ |
| 23:56 |
Dakota5 |
i dont think im ever going to play minetest other than ounce a week now |
| 23:57 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
bites Jordach |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
that's like going to a bar and saying i want a girly drink just because all the women are drinking it |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
make your own choices based from experience |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
and this is why i'm using windows; because i can. |
| 23:58 |
nolan_ |
windows rocks |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
only when things dont crash |
| 23:58 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Don't throw rocks at windows |
| 23:58 |
nolan_ |
hey jordach why could i never connect to your server? |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
nolan_, it's gone |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
eg, x_x |
| 23:58 |
nolan_ |
awww man |
| 23:58 |
Dakota5 |
this is my own choice nobody told me to get it |
| 23:59 |
nolan_ |
let me rephrase this |
| 23:59 |
nolan_ |
i have 7 but im downloading ubuntu and probably gonna switch to kubuntu becaus eof what adam said ~Dakota |
| 23:59 |
nolan_ |
Your basing something off what adam said |
| 23:59 |
Jordach |
two things to note with using a linux distro (eg, a kernel + gui's and stuff); google and asking on forums related to the linux distro |
