Time Nick Message 00:00 NekoGloop Trying to place fire causes the player to die? 00:00 Peacock dieing brings them back to spawn, no point 00:01 Uberi no, it teleports them into the far lands and builds a house made of lava around them 00:01 Peacock they get jailed by the server after x attempts at griefing 00:01 Uberi and that becomes their spawn 00:01 Uberi and the lava is indestructible 00:01 Peacock x attempts + 5 is autoban 00:01 Uberi and explodes for no reason 00:02 Peacock now if i can just get Ride of the Valkyries to play in prison that would be great 00:03 Uberi noteblocks! 00:03 NekoGloop We need jukeboxes 00:04 Uberi pretty sure those are in technic 00:04 Megaf My server is finally working fine 00:04 Peacock id need a low quality version of it tho 00:04 Peacock big sound clips take too long to dl 00:05 PilzAdam if you put the sounds in $path_share/testsounds/ in the client then you dont need to load it from the server 00:06 Peacock what about http://soundbible.com/1514-Neighborhood-Dogs-Barking.html ? 00:07 hoodedice What if the guy in prison makes some sorta stair out of blocks, and gets out? 00:07 Exio4 or cheats 00:07 Peacock prison is within nation limits, so protected 00:07 NekoGloop Uberi, um, technic? You mean the uber-bloated mod? 00:07 Uberi yeah, that's the one 00:08 Peacock its not bloated, but the deps are killer 00:08 hoodedice hmm :) 00:08 NekoGloop I mean the one with 128px textures for no damn reason 00:08 Exio4 being able to fly is actually super-easy 00:08 Exio4 even without privs eh! 00:08 Exio4 we need a proper anticheat :( 00:08 Peacock when i see people with fly without privs i just ban them lol 00:09 PilzAdam Exio4, we need proper cheats first 00:09 Exio4 do you want me to release a cracktest patch? 00:09 Exio4 ;P 00:09 Exio4 you know doing those changes is pretty easy 00:10 PilzAdam I have a "special" client too :-p 00:10 Peacock oh yeah, that'll help minetests' popularity :p 00:10 Exio4 minetest's 00:10 Peacock wtv 00:10 PilzAdam but the people that actually wanna cheat are usually not able to code it 00:10 Peacock most servers, judging from the threads, already seem unplayable for long periods 00:12 Peacock when most ppl are already in the habit of backing up daily 00:13 Exio4 what TP is this? http://i.imgur.com/W2NUdt5.png 00:14 PilzAdam paramat uses that too 00:14 Peacock everytime someone says TP, i think of this http://youtu.be/qqaKi9NTzS4 00:14 Exio4 !title 00:14 MinetestBot Exio4: Iam Cornholio i need TP for my BUNGHOLE!! - YouTube 00:14 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5355 00:15 PilzAdam ^ I think its his 00:15 Exio4 PilzAdam: i got that image from a comment.. by .. him :P 00:15 PilzAdam his awesome mapgen screenshots are a good way to advertise TPs 00:16 PilzAdam he should take money for this ;-) 00:16 Exio4 haha 00:17 Peacock with so many ppl requesting textures, we prolly would have to pay someone lol 00:17 babyface1031 hi everyone :D 00:20 Peacock mmm, spicy noodles 00:20 NekoGloop Or you could ask me, I might do some textures. 00:21 hoodedice If you paid some 5 devs 00:21 hoodedice Mintest would be 1.0.0 by the end of the year 00:21 hoodedice :P 00:21 Exio4 very funny 00:21 NekoGloop Or at least, 0.5 00:22 * Kacey listens to Ride of the Valkaries 00:22 Peacock well obvs devs need to work to pay shit too lol unless theyre students 00:22 PilzAdam seems like someone paid FF devs a lot ;-) 00:22 Kacey Valkyries* 00:22 Exio4 lol PilzAdam 00:22 hoodedice FF? 00:22 Uberi firefox 00:22 hoodedice ooh 00:23 hoodedice But firefox is something everyone uses 00:23 hoodedice So more exposure 00:23 NekoGloop nope 00:23 hoodedice More probabilty of open-source lovers working for it 00:23 NekoGloop everyone has no exceptions. 00:23 NekoGloop So therefore, you're incorrect. 00:23 Peacock version numbers go up faster but features come at the same pace lol dont know if thats an improvement 00:23 hoodedice Most of everyone 00:24 hoodedice ? 00:24 Peacock firefox 23 -> firefox24 changelog: move close button two pixels to the right 00:24 PilzAdam 2 pixles oO 00:24 Peacock its a joke :p 00:24 PilzAdam that would at least 23 -> 25 00:24 PilzAdam +be 00:25 Peacock LOL 00:25 hoodedice rofl 00:25 NekoGloop 23 -> 24: 1 pixel 00:25 hoodedice Every third damn day, firefox checks my add-ons 00:25 Peacock law of inverse relevance i guess, the less you intend to do the more they have to make it look like things are moving 00:26 Peacock yeah android app updates drove me nuts that way too :P 00:26 PilzAdam no, you have to use a proper strategy to do such a big change: 23 -> 24: half a pixel, so the users get in touch to the change slowly, and then do the rest in 24 -> 25 00:27 Peacock of course by version 25 all the devs will be gone and it will be UI designers handling the whole thing lol 00:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: change the default liquid_update 00:28 Exio4 er, liquid_loop_max 00:28 Exio4 and liquid_update too 00:28 PilzAdam liquid_update = 0.4 seems to be a pretty good value 00:29 Exio4 & liquid_loop_max 2000? 00:29 hoodedice I think I like SAM v1 more... 00:30 Exio4 it would be 'half' of the value it was but smoother 00:30 NekoGloop I think I like pie more. 00:32 Peacock apple pie? 00:32 PilzAdam Exio4, more like 10000 00:32 Peacock http://www.baked-in.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/American-Pie.jpg 00:33 PilzAdam so, NekoGloop likes apple pie... 00:33 PilzAdam :-p 00:33 Peacock hehe 00:33 Exio4 PilzAdam: wut? 00:33 NekoGloop what...? 00:33 PilzAdam Exio4, liquid_loop_max should be raised to 10000 again 00:34 Exio4 make it 5000 and liquid_update 0.5 00:47 VanessaE hi all 00:47 VanessaE Kacey: I'm not sure what I'm seeing in that image, maybe let the rest of the map generate around it first? 00:49 Kacey the whole map is like that... 00:50 * Exio4 slaps VanessaE 00:50 Exio4 i' 00:50 Exio4 i'm leaving when you say hi all 00:50 VanessaE like what? that image makes no sense 00:51 * VanessaE smacks Exio4 back - I just woke up from a nap :P 00:51 Exio4 Kacey: press f4 00:51 Kacey i deleted that world and made a new one 00:52 Kacey afk 00:52 VanessaE wtf? 00:52 VanessaE how am I supposed to evaluate a possible mod error if you delete the offending world!? 00:54 sokomine pilzadam: poor farmers from my world complained that their fields run dry! 00:59 sokomine hmm 01:01 sokomine would you accept a village where all houses are lined up on one road and even one side of that road? 01:02 jin_xi hm, i really would like to be able to use more than 3 materials or 1 angle per "tree" in l-systems... 01:02 sokomine which kind of tree are you planning? 01:04 jin_xi i am abusing the l systems to create various structures... 01:05 VanessaE jin_xi: you can mitigate the need for multiple angles by just using a very small angle value, enough rotation commands to compensate for it, and some of the less-than-100%-probability rules with more rotate commands. 01:05 sokomine hm. what kind of structures? currently i'm intrested in rivers. villages need them to run through/close by (difficult to live without water). building one is not that easy 01:05 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/qhWjgHq.png here is an example 01:05 sokomine perhaps l-system might fit there as well 01:06 sokomine looks nice :-) 01:07 jin_xi made that 5 months or so ago, just picking it up now... 01:07 sokomine iirc i've seen a similar picture from you before, yes 01:07 sokomine would it be possible to use l-system for river generation? 01:07 jin_xi atm working at treegen tool, another mod noone ever uses 01:07 VanessaE I wish someone could go through moretrees and plants_lib and tell me what this bug is that Kacey and at least one other person have mentioned (about trees growing in impassible clumps) 01:08 VanessaE because I've never seen it happen on my machine 01:08 jin_xi rivers? i think so, but im not sure how... 01:09 jin_xi if the trees are too big they will be cut off, resulting in blocks of wood and leaves 01:09 sokomine maybe i ought to consult our terrain expert. except that he does much larger systems. what i need is very small-scale river. perhaps a bit random will do. hmm 01:09 VanessaE jin_xi: that's a mapgen bug. 01:09 VanessaE hmmmm knows about it 01:10 jin_xi VanessaE: no, its l systems loading a fixed cube of map data to manipulate 01:10 jin_xi which happens to be too small for huge trees 01:10 VanessaE jin_xi: are you absolutely certain about that? 01:10 VanessaE I was under the impression that the issue was a bit different 01:11 sokomine maybe "huge" in this case means "huger than the hugest moretrees tree" (which would be...hm...hill-like?) 01:11 jin_xi https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/treegen.cpp#L121 01:12 VanessaE too bad I couldn't use the vmanip to "pre-load" the terrain around a tree that's about to be built (because then I wouldn't be able to generate anything in the adjacent blocks) 01:12 VanessaE hah! 01:12 VanessaE "vmanip.*" 01:13 VanessaE (it really needs a ~3x4x3 area to handle the very largest trees) 01:13 jin_xi in my turtle branch i used a dry run to determine and load all the blocks a structure would need 01:13 jin_xi huge rainbow is an example 01:14 Peacock jin_xi if you could make smaller version (like default) of moretrees that would be cool 01:14 Peacock lately players are moregriefing my map with them lol 01:14 VanessaE Peacock: someone did that already 01:14 Peacock really? 01:14 Peacock forum search is crap then lol 01:15 Peacock if you dont knwo the precise terms 01:15 PilzAdam Peacock, use ixquick.com with "site:forum.minetest.net" 01:16 Peacock it is faster yeah lol 01:17 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5713 01:17 VanessaE I think this was the mod 01:17 Kacey back 01:18 VanessaE I had thought it was bas080's work, guess I was right :-) 01:18 Peacock there we go! thanks :-) 01:19 Peacock its not that i dont like the bigtrees, but people build such small things next to them 01:19 VanessaE heh 01:19 Peacock bungalows everywhere lol 01:19 VanessaE too bad so much of my map has already been generated, I'd install this one also 01:19 Peacock i havent seen anyone do a split-level yet 01:20 VanessaE I wish someone would write a tool that'll let me go through a map and delete mapblocks that haven't been built-on yet (in a visual way) 01:20 Peacock or a chunk delete command (that flags it for ongen) 01:21 Peacock though pretty soon im gonna do a crater mod to get rid of totally griefed freebuild areas lol 01:23 Kacey http://xkcd.com/1243/ 01:24 VanessaE oh my, tiny trees builds them up entirely in Lua, not L-systems 01:24 bas080 Yes VanessaE, i know. 01:24 VanessaE oh hi :-) 01:24 bas080 hey 01:25 babyface1031 can anyone tell me what goes in the upgrade slots in the technic mod i havent been able to find the awnser 01:25 VanessaE no idea there 01:26 sokomine iirc there's a mod that supplies smaller moretrees-like trees. it's called "trees" 01:26 sokomine ah. already done. ought to have continued reading 01:27 sokomine vanessa: problem is that you need to know if someone has built there 01:30 Peacock you know what there could be a proverbial market for: limited scope worldedit for regular players 01:32 Peacock you could have like a protector block where the worldediting only works within range of it 01:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103002#p103002 your answer is the ultimate truth so you close the topic because no further questions are needed? 01:35 VanessaE I close the topic because the question has been asked a zillion times 01:35 VanessaE but unlike *some* people, at least I answered it :P 01:36 ShadowNinja Offtopic? 01:36 * Peacock serves popcorn 01:36 VanessaE there, re-opened. 01:36 VanessaE moved to modding general (except I forgot to turn off that damn checkbox again) 01:37 sokomine peacock: i asked uberi for that already, and he did something like that :-) it is still experimental 01:37 sokomine look for worldedit_limited 01:37 Peacock hm, ill keep an eye on that :-) 01:39 PilzAdam bye 01:41 Peacock peacock.makeCoffee() 01:45 VanessaE hey kaeza 01:45 Peacock peacock.invade('Czechoslovakia') 01:45 kaeza hai VanessaE 01:46 kaeza :1: CountryNotFoundException 01:47 kaeza :P 01:47 Peacock really? guess i should hold off on my trip to Rhodesia until my geography package maintainer updates it 01:48 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia 01:48 Peacock note to self: coffee makers work best when plugged in 01:49 kaeza HAH 01:49 Peacock moving in two days lol everythings all over the place 01:49 Peacock cant wait to get out of this crappé neighbourhood 01:49 Peacock this idiot revs his engine until half past midnight every night this summer 01:50 sokomine hope you'll feel more comftable in the new neighbourhood 01:50 Peacock its the center of town 01:50 Peacock they usually keep those areas quaint 01:50 Peacock and quiet 01:51 Peacock and the rents' high enough to keep certain types out of the area lol 01:52 babyface1031 hi kaeza 01:53 * VanessaE warns Peacock against income-based "certain types". 01:53 kaeza babyface1031 o/ 01:54 kaeza been a while 01:54 Peacock well in this case they dont even have income, theyre on assitance, and in Quebec people on assitance dont give a shit about their neighbourhood or the quality of life (and not leaving trash strewn all over the place all week) 01:55 kaeza this man should get up his lazy ass and learn C++: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6736 01:55 VanessaE Peacock: not everyone who is "on assistance" is like that - myself included. 01:55 Peacock thats one thing about the english they have more pride no matter how much they earn 01:55 kaeza all his stuff is plain awesome 01:56 babyface1031 yes i been trying to log in for 2 months but i couldnt get on 01:56 VanessaE kaeza: indeed so, but as I've been led to believe, none of his stuff is particularly suitable for inclusion in the engine, sadly 01:56 Peacock it depends on why theyr on it, if its drug problems and unemployability, then theyre hard to live with 01:57 Peacock last year i woke up to this big effing indian in my kitchen, he looked as confused as i did lol 01:57 VanessaE haha 01:57 VanessaE there's a reason doors have locks :P 01:57 Peacock (for different reasons) 01:57 Peacock it was locked lol 01:57 kaeza VanessaE, well, VoxelManip is a great deal faster than set_node() anyway I guess 01:58 Peacock vox'ma'nips :p 01:58 kaeza almost as written directly in C++ 01:58 VanessaE [07-30 08:34] I just benchmarked vmanip vs. get_node for reading only and it seems that vmanip turns out useful for over 700 nodes with a speedup of 10ms (+-5) 01:58 Peacock and btw, he was nothing like the ones in Last of the Mohicans :p 01:58 VanessaE he never answered if that was 10ms/node or for the whole 700-node block 01:58 kaeza VanessaE, that is for get_node() 01:58 VanessaE oh SET node 01:59 Peacock mmm, get_noodle() 01:59 Peacock *noodles 01:59 VanessaE mmmm noodles 01:59 Peacock that sounded bad lol 01:59 ShadowNinja VanessaE: LuaVoxelManip isn't very usefull for get_node. set_node is the slow one. 01:59 Peacock we need a restaurant mod for MT lol 01:59 VanessaE too bad none of what I do would benefit from it 01:59 kaeza write is always slower than reading, because the game rebuilds the mesh on every set_node() {{cn}} 02:00 Peacock paramats' mods might benefit from it tho 02:00 VanessaE I bet SPlizard's snow mod would benefit though 02:01 kaeza yup 02:01 ShadowNinja kaeza: I don't think that is it. The mesh is client-side. But it might send every change individually. 02:02 ShadowNinja (AFAIK) 02:02 kaeza now, if entity handling weren't so buggy 02:02 kaeza :P 02:02 VanessaE hah 02:02 Peacock i yanked most entities lol 02:02 Peacock fullinv drop and q drop 02:02 VanessaE 'buggy' ain't the word for it 02:02 VanessaE "fucking broken all to hell" fits better 02:02 VanessaE :) 02:03 kaeza hehe 02:03 Peacock thats what i dont get :P 02:03 Peacock hardcode weather instead of fixing entities which would make jeija's weather so much better 02:09 Peacock i need a new back 02:11 VanessaE as long as you're ordering new body parts, I need a whole-body overhaul :P 02:12 Peacock NekoGloop.extract({'spine','spleen'}) 02:12 Peacock anything else? 02:12 VanessaE heh 02:12 * NekoGloop grows them back 02:13 VanessaE fuck it, just clone some healthy supermodel and transplant my brain :-) 02:13 Peacock not sure theyre healthy with all that pharmaceutical speed they take to stay skinny 02:15 Peacock truckers take speed, cops have roid rage, wonder if theres anyone who ain't doped up lol 02:16 VanessaE not me, unless you count my vitamins and misc low-end pills as doped-up :P 02:18 Peacock thats one lol 02:18 Peacock naturistfury :-) 02:30 Peacock i think i made the shields too complex lol 02:49 * NekoGloop pinches VanessaE 02:50 VanessaE ow. 02:50 * sokomine secretly carries the leftover kittens away 02:50 VanessaE sokomine: put 'em in oldcoder's pile like usual 02:51 sokomine voxelmanip and especially place_schematic will be useful for my random_buildings mod. it's just not that easy to get a town to spawn...at least not if it ought to be halfway realistic and detailed 02:51 sokomine vanessa: ok. bet they're safe there 02:51 VanessaE Splizard: snow mod should be modified to use that ^^^^ 02:51 VanessaE should afford it some decent speed gains 02:52 sokomine the snow mod works fine already :-) the sumpf (swamp) mod needs more improvement and speedup 02:52 Splizard what format are schematic files in? 02:52 sokomine a format very close to the mapfile format itshelf 02:53 sokomine it's not intended for manipulation thorough mods. you can save it with the speedy-gonzales-branch of worldedit (and load it, of course; or load it with place_schematic in lua) 02:54 sokomine don't know if schematics will be handy for the snow mod. are there any repeating structures? 02:54 sokomine voxelmanip could be more useful 02:54 Splizard could be useful for icebergs 02:54 Splizard maybe 02:54 Peacock if theyre pushing weather, whats the use of snow mods? 02:54 VanessaE Peacock: for mapgen v6 of course. 02:54 sokomine it looks great 02:55 VanessaE all the fancy shit is being done on mapgen v7 or indev 02:55 sokomine icebergs, yes. thouse would be fine 02:55 Peacock i know it looks nice but if engine places snow itself then the mod dont need to? 02:55 sokomine hope the engine does it as good as the snow mod then 02:56 Splizard Snow mod can add bonus snow features not found in the default game 02:56 VanessaE only reason I don't use the snow mod is that stupid mapgen cutoff bug 02:56 Peacock i just had someone log on and the whole server ground to a halt :/ 02:56 VanessaE (where mapgen-oriented mods tend to get cut off at mapblock boundaries) 02:56 sokomine ah yes, that looks strange. mostly on maps. if you're building near it, you can smoothen the edges manually 02:57 Splizard Yea thats a problem, I have been playing around with mapgen7 with snow and it looks pretty good. 02:59 sokomine hm 03:02 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_850139828.jpg :DDDDDDDD 03:03 Peacock determined :p 03:03 VanessaE kaeza: almost there 03:03 Peacock and i thought my towers were anally precise lol 03:03 VanessaE kaeza: when you get it going right, render it with an HDX-based screenshot ;) 03:04 kaeza ofc 03:05 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_850308895.jpg 03:06 kaeza those at the bottom are trees :P 03:06 VanessaE heh 03:06 VanessaE looks like that 4seasons mod :) 03:07 Peacock ? 03:07 Peacock i dont see it lol 03:07 Peacock and icant believe ppl still play with that antiquity lol 03:08 VanessaE ? 03:09 Peacock 4seasons 03:09 Peacock i wrote it for 0.4 or 0.4.1 i think 03:09 VanessaE huh, I thought mauvebic wrote it 03:09 Peacock who did you think i was? lol 03:09 VanessaE oh ffs 03:09 VanessaE change yer damn nick then :) 03:10 Peacock would if i could 03:10 Peacock forgot my password 03:10 Peacock i was gone a few months lol 03:10 VanessaE I know 03:10 VanessaE (I don't usually make assumptions about who is who) 03:10 Peacock well i wouldn't be the first to come back with a diff. name lol 03:10 VanessaE true 03:11 VanessaE I still say it looks like 4seasons :P 03:11 Peacock though most ppl think Peacock = the bird, when its actually captain Peacock 03:11 sokomine in this case it's pretty clear :-) he's online too much. also his server gave him away :-) 03:11 Peacock yeah seriously :p 03:11 * VanessaE <-- dense :_) 03:11 VanessaE :) 03:12 sokomine 4seasons is fine. just the spring season is too....hmm...plain-colored 03:12 Peacock the startest anyways, alot of people are constantly online tho 03:12 sokomine i was always hoping spring would pass soon :-) 03:12 Peacock 4seaons changes too many nodes 03:13 Peacock if you could change node textures on the fly it would be different 03:13 VanessaE Peacock: bug RBA to finish up that one patch c55 had for the purpose 03:13 Peacock RBA has alot on his plate tho 03:14 VanessaE yeah 03:14 Peacock he also mentionned something about domes 03:14 VanessaE skydome 03:14 Peacock for setting unique skies 03:14 Peacock yeah 03:14 Peacock plus i hear he's working crazy hours 03:14 VanessaE coming Real Soon Now ™ 03:14 VanessaE yes, that too 03:14 VanessaE upwards of 60 hours/week 03:14 Peacock is rba the last one working on expanding the api? jeija seems to MIA 03:14 VanessaE with a totally botched up schedule 03:15 VanessaE dunno 03:15 Peacock ive done that and more, it burns you out eventually 03:15 VanessaE I do wonder where Jeija disappeared to 03:15 Peacock seriously lol 03:15 Peacock not long after particlspawnsers and poof, gone 03:16 VanessaE Jeija's last commit to mesecons was 3 months ago, since then it's mostly been Uberi, Novatux, khonkhortisan, and a bit from RBA and I 03:16 Peacock he didn't g et in any fights? 03:16 VanessaE don't remember 03:16 VanessaE I figured he burned out 03:16 Peacock maybe 03:16 Peacock that happens here lol 03:17 Peacock the more stuff you have to maintain the worse 03:17 VanessaE his last forum post was almost a month ago.. 03:17 Peacock though maybe he just consideres mesecons more or less complete 03:18 VanessaE maybe 03:18 VanessaE maybe ShadowNinja can rewrite the wires to use 6dfacedir 03:18 VanessaE then one could call it 'complete' 03:19 Peacock its coming up with the facedir -> connecting sides rules that looks painful lol 03:19 VanessaE yeah 03:19 Peacock i tried figuring it out for other things, i concluded i could live with more nodes than necessary lol 03:20 Peacock you have to be able to do say, y+ translated for each facedir 03:20 VanessaE yeah, it's tricky to work with 03:20 Peacock that would probably be a heckuvalot faster as an api helper than coded lua 03:20 VanessaE I played hell getting moreblocks stairsplus tuned right for it 03:21 Peacock my screwdriver still works on 4 faces, does 0.4.6 have the 6d? 03:21 VanessaE yep 03:21 VanessaE 0.4.6? 03:21 Peacock so i could have tried 03:21 VanessaE talk about out of date :) 0.4.8 is almost out 03:21 Peacock 0.4.6 03:21 Peacock thats what im waiting for :p 03:22 VanessaE but yeah, I think so 03:22 VanessaE but screw using releases, use a nightly/git build :) 03:22 Peacock well i dont wanna be a tester for wonky features, i need my server to work for me and others 03:22 VanessaE mine works pretty well 03:23 Peacock i mean, look http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-27#i_3219860 03:23 VanessaE as long as people don't get lazy and try to stick with like 0.4.3 or something :) 03:23 Peacock redcrab :P 03:23 VanessaE he's 0.4.4 :P 03:23 VanessaE (because most of his mods are outdated) 03:23 Peacock he's also MIA 03:23 Peacock server still up tho 03:23 VanessaE (and his mapfile is like 6GB, it's a wonder his server still runs) 03:24 Peacock well if he sticks with the same mods the whole time, i can see how it would still work smoothly 03:24 Peacock its adding/removing stuff on the same map over a long time that tends to break things 03:24 VanessaE yeah but protocol changes eventually will render such an old version incompatible with modern clients 03:25 Peacock im just curious to see if it really does run better on my hardware 03:25 Peacock some say its faster, others the opposite 03:26 Peacock i dont feel like breaking my map tho for 0.4.8 03:28 Peacock id prolly lose my regulars/nongriefers if i did that lol 03:29 VanessaE heh 03:29 sokomine yes :-( hope redcrab returns 03:29 VanessaE well do you really want to deal with anyone who is too lazy to get a compatible client anyway? :) 03:29 Peacock one was already pretty pissed that his lair suddenly found itself in a protection zone lol 03:29 sokomine last time i heared the map was more like 10 gb iirc 03:30 Peacock well im the one running an old version server, so new clients dont have any trouble connecting 03:30 Splizard Yea thats a problem, I have been playing around with mapgen7 with snow and it looks pretty good. 03:30 Splizard oops 03:31 Peacock but when i read about lagspikes and map breakage in the logs, im hesitant :p 03:31 VanessaE too bad there's no way to port a mapgen v6 world over to mapgen v7 03:31 Peacock lagspikes/cpuspikes forget which 03:32 Peacock im not even sure the edges will match up if paramat rewrites moonrealm with voxelmynips 03:34 Peacock thats why wiping chunks and re-engaging ongen would be useful 03:39 kaeza VanessaE, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_852315803.jpg 03:40 VanessaE kaeza: \o/ 03:40 kaeza NekoGloop, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_851420819.jpg 03:40 VanessaE that looks like my "bigger, sharper" font, too :) 03:40 kaeza nope; freetype :P 03:40 VanessaE oh, heh 03:41 kaeza now, if somebody would be nice enough to create a palette out of the colors in unifieddyes... 03:41 NekoGloop That looks like someone threw up and it happens to look like cloud. 03:42 VanessaE kaeza: there's already an official palette file included with that mod :) 03:42 kaeza VanessaE, in table format :P 03:42 kaeza too lazy to do it myself 03:42 VanessaE not exactly in minetestmapper format (or table format :P ) but should be easy enough to parse with a script 03:43 Peacock i wonder how minetestmapper could be tweaked to show protection zones 03:44 VanessaE tweak the C++ version 03:44 VanessaE the python version is crap :P 03:44 Peacock yeah probably involves looking at how scales are drawn 03:50 VanessaE (the C++ version has one irritating bug though: it doesn't properly handle opening/re-opening a map file if the server is also using it actively. It writes blank areas to the final PNG when a collision happens). 03:58 Peacock i got used to only running it when server's off 04:00 VanessaE I never shut the server down unless the power starts dropping out or there's a pending storm 04:00 VanessaE (or if it just breaks :P ) 04:00 Peacock i simply turn mine off at night, im getting better at autobanning griefers, but still 04:01 Peacock it helps that new players spawn in a 1000sq node protection area, if they attempt to dig/place 10 times it jail, 15 is ban, they get a warning each time 04:02 VanessaE on mine, if they try to dig the spawn, they'll find themselves drowning in lava :) 04:03 Peacock my prison is setup like that lol 04:03 Peacock its also protected and 200 nodes underground, even spock couldn't find a way out lol 04:03 Peacock from jail they can either ask for an out or try to grief their way out, wich leads to a ban lol 04:04 Peacock if i can automate most of the admin stuff thats more time i get to build 04:04 khonkhortisan I've been highlighted, but I'm on break from minetest 04:05 khonkhortisan sort of 04:06 VanessaE why? 04:11 Peacock lol http://youtu.be/vSfrbqCQr78 04:11 VanessaE !title 04:11 MinetestBot VanessaE: The Simpsons-Rock Bottom (Sweet Can) - YouTube 04:11 Peacock if only it was still that funny 04:20 VanessaE bbl 04:28 kaeza Aaaaaand it's up https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103026#p103026 04:36 IceCraft mornin` 04:38 babyface1031 night all 04:38 IceCraft gn 05:21 reactor Mowing. 05:39 khonkhortisan I canceled make and ended up with a purple terminal :) 05:41 reactor escape sequences eh 05:41 khonkhortisan yep 05:42 reactor stty reset 05:42 reactor no 05:42 khonkhortisan too late anyway, I re-ran make 05:42 reactor just "reset" 05:42 reactor returns terminal to its normal state, usually 05:43 reactor Worse happens if you try printing out some BINARY. 05:43 reactor It will confuse the terminal so thet unusual chars appear instead of letters. 05:43 reactor And reset doesn't help it. Wonder how can fis this. 05:43 reactor s/is/ix/ 05:44 khonkhortisan if I cat /dev/something, I can make the keyboard print unusual characters 05:45 reactor urandom 05:45 reactor u for "unlocking", as it, it doesn't stop if there is not enough randomnes 05:46 khonkhortisan urandom changes my keyboard layout, the terminal title, then closes the terminal. 05:47 reactor What kind of terminal do ye have? 05:48 khonkhortisan urxvt (with kde compositing transparency, not the fake stuff) 05:48 reactor good 05:48 reactor strange 05:48 reactor in my case it doesn't close it 05:49 khonkhortisan VanessaE, this is why: t> minetest 05:49 khonkhortisan terminate called after throwing an instance of 'SendFailedException' 05:49 khonkhortisan what(): Failed to send packet 05:49 khonkhortisan Aborted 05:49 reactor khonkhortisan: now... what is the purpose of transparency? 05:50 khonkhortisan transparency would be much more useful if all programs could support it - one way was color-based, like you could make the white or gray sections of windows transparent. If I have a terminal with only the first line having text in it, I can see through to the window behind it. 05:50 reactor No. 05:51 reactor I mean, what's the point of making your terminal transparent? 05:51 reactor Shouldn't that reduce readability of the actual text in it? 05:51 khonkhortisan actually, blue on black with a small font is the least readable part of it 05:52 reactor So why not turn off all these transparencies and enjoy clear, crisp image?! 05:52 reactor Besides, transparency slows you down. 05:55 khonkhortisan reactor, http://img42.com/eyjqm 05:55 khonkhortisan urxvt -fade 20 +sb -depth 32 -fg white -bg rgba:0000/0000/0000/cccc 05:55 reactor How am I supposed to see indirect links to images? 05:55 reactor Use a better hosting. 05:55 reactor to files in general, I mean 05:55 reactor this is terrible 05:56 reactor try wget on that link, seriously 05:56 reactor that shit needs to die 05:57 khonkhortisan http://cdn.img42.com/c97835d8d2318a3d8d4a69b500b85987.png 06:01 khonkhortisan My computer doesn't have ipv6 enabled, it checks for ipv6 during tests, failed tests keep minetest from running. A pull request that disables that test when ipv6 is disabled in minetest is available, but there's a larger pull request that checks for ipv6 and disables it automatically if the test fails, which isn't merged because of the port it uses. 06:01 khonkhortisan Meanwhile minetest is unusable on ipv4. 06:02 reactor woah man how do you live with all this clutter 06:02 khonkhortisan that's why I didn't play minetest for a while 06:02 khonkhortisan clutter on my desktop? 06:03 reactor in general 06:03 reactor yes 06:03 khonkhortisan I don't minimize windows, I just send them to back. 06:04 reactor It's heavily mouse-reliant, all this stuff you have. 06:04 khonkhortisan actually, I had a bunch of clutter on my desk, and cleared it all off and put it on a different desk. 06:04 khonkhortisan I know. 06:04 reactor Why not get rid of the rodent? 06:04 reactor You really only need it for graphics editors and games. 06:04 khonkhortisan I tried awesome, I haven't gotten used to tiling wms, 06:04 khonkhortisan . 06:05 khonkhortisan Why not get rid of qwerty? 06:05 khonkhortisan You really only need it for typewriters. 06:06 reactor Good luck typing in commands with a screen keyboard. 06:06 reactor You know, it's unhealthy to type with one hand. 06:06 reactor To say the least. 06:06 khonkhortisan ? 06:06 khonkhortisan I meant where the letters are, not the whole keyboard 06:07 reactor keyboard was designed for two hands, why not use both hands on it, why have to move your right one between it and the mouse? 06:07 reactor Having to do that slows you down. 06:07 khonkhortisan I do that a lot. 06:07 reactor Speaking of tiling. 06:07 reactor Do it the goatse way 06:08 reactor As in, gradually stretch it. 06:09 khonkhortisan now I know what goatse is 06:10 khonkhortisan the correct way to use a mouse is to keep your hands on the keyboard and have an eye tracker as a mouse pointer 06:10 reactor I bloody know. 06:11 reactor you can't have both hands on it if you have one hand on the mouse 06:11 reactor Or you have three hands? 06:11 reactor Or move it with yur wiley? 06:11 reactor s/yur/your/ 06:11 khonkhortisan an australian designed something where the right hand was half a keyboard with a mouse in it 06:11 reactor Meh. 06:11 reactor Why complicate it? 06:12 reactor Why not just design an interface that doesn't require mouse? 06:12 khonkhortisan http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/combimouse-480x389.jpg 06:12 reactor It not only looks overcomplicated, it also looks ugly as hell. 06:13 reactor And if it breaks, who's gonna repair it?! 06:13 khonkhortisan I'd like to see a keyboard where the three rows are combined into the home row, where you can push a single button forward, backward, or down to get three letters. That would reduce the distance between letters (which some keyboard layouts claim to do) 06:13 reactor So instead of making the interface more usable, they will make workarounds. 06:13 reactor That's so typical of humans. God damn it. 06:14 reactor Irrational. 06:14 khonkhortisan The scroll wheel on my mouse goes in five directions, but my keyboard only goes down 06:14 reactor oh that would be a good idea 06:14 reactor yet I'm afraid it would put strain on fingers. 06:15 reactor at the same time, it would reduce vibrations from impacts 06:16 khonkhortisan hmm. it would keep you from lifting your fingers off the buttons most of the time, I guess it would depend on how much force it takes to slide forward/back 06:16 reactor Exactly. 06:16 reactor Besides, the switches would have to have complex construction. 06:16 reactor Which would 1) increase cost 2) reduce repairability 06:16 khonkhortisan it would be like a middle mouse button / scroll wheel where you can only scroll one tick 06:17 reactor Oh that. 06:17 khonkhortisan and nonstandard things aren't popular 06:17 reactor I've seen such keyboard somewhere. 06:17 reactor yes. 06:17 khonkhortisan you have? 06:17 reactor I don't. 06:18 khonkhortisan *you have seen it somewhere? 06:18 khonkhortisan I didn't know it existed. 06:18 reactor Oh yeah. I've seen a drawing. 06:18 reactor In an old magazine related to amateur computers. 06:19 reactor I don't know, I didn't like the idea, because the switches depicted there were unreliable as fuck. 06:19 reactor And required much motion to work. 06:19 khonkhortisan I'm going to take a guess and say you don't like touchscreen keyboards. 06:19 reactor And could only do two letters. 06:19 reactor I don't. 06:19 reactor You can't touch type on them. 06:20 reactor I like when I can feel the key closing. That helps reduce error rate. 06:20 reactor And, with real keys, you feel if you've placed fingers right or wrong. 06:21 reactor So a real keyboard requires little looking at it in operation, if at all. 06:21 reactor I couldn't say that about screen keyboards. 06:21 reactor And you can't use all ten fingers on them, I'll bet. 06:21 reactor Too small. 06:22 khonkhortisan they have yet to mass produce keyboards with vertical columns instead of these jagged ones 06:22 reactor No, that's a bad idea. 06:22 khonkhortisan really? why? 06:22 khonkhortisan the angle between your hands? 06:22 reactor The present placement is more convenient for hands. 06:23 reactor The angle is okay. you just don't have to put your wrists anywhere. 06:23 reactor that's a bad habit, typing with wrists on something. 06:23 reactor only basement dwellers do that 06:23 khonkhortisan I don't understand. You should hold your wrist in the air? 06:24 reactor Yeah. 06:24 khonkhortisan elbow too? 06:24 reactor Yes! 06:25 reactor That's where the strain comes from: people don't know how to sit properly. 06:25 reactor Speaking of which, mouse does not help sit properly. 06:25 reactor You have to reach to side for it. 06:26 reactor And one arm is in the air, unsupported, another is on the desk. 06:26 reactor if you could tear your arms off and weigh them, you would see how heavy they are 06:26 reactor and that's not a good idea to constantly have one on a support, and another without it 06:27 thexyz khonkhortisan: it shouldn't run tests unless this is debug build 06:27 reactor No wonder most of our generation witll be DISGUSTING CRIPPLES by their 40s. 06:28 khonkhortisan So it runs as release, and refuses to as debug. Still bad. 06:28 khonkhortisan txtng iz bd 4 y thmbs 06:36 khonkhortisan I just found an article about a computer desk where you stand at it instead of sit at it 06:58 khonkhortisan When I have a child, I'm going to get them a blank keyboard. 07:03 reactor Standing too much is bad, too. 07:04 reactor Loading your legs too much. 07:04 reactor They're for walking and running, not standing, duh. 07:05 reactor khonkhortisan: bad idea about the keyboard, you have to look at it sometimes. 07:05 reactor When you either forget where to get some rarely used char, or you're tired and failing to operate it. 07:12 khonkhortisan I pulled my keyboard to the edge of my desk, typing in the air isn't that bad. Now I'm attempting using space with the thumb from the hand that last typed. 07:14 reactor That's a good habit. 07:38 webdesigner97 hi 07:38 reactor .yeH 07:51 khonkhortisan ˙ollǝɥ 07:51 khonkhortisan ‮Good night. 08:13 emerge Greetings! 08:18 jin_xi khonkhortisan: i have reverted your pull request to painting. next time ill be more careful... 08:24 reac Hmm. 08:28 reac If I want to fix the mcedit conversion script, do I also need to fix stairs direction and such? 08:59 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Uncommon Instrument Awareness Day! :-D 09:00 nalkri I didn't know that! 09:00 nalkri And good morning 09:12 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_872014789.jpg 09:12 DanDuncombe What is the player's movement speed when not using fast? 09:13 reac kaeza: :D 09:15 reac http://memeblender.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/troll-face-meme-do-not-feed-the-trolls.jpg 09:16 DanDuncombe Help?https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103057#p103057 09:16 kaeza heh 09:17 kaeza DanDuncombe, anywhere easily accessible 09:18 DanDuncombe Then what do I do with it? I try to run it but I just get a window which instantly shuts. 09:18 kaeza you are not double clicking it are you? 09:18 kaeza you are supposed to run it from the command line (aka "DOS Box") 09:18 DanDuncombe How to run it thn? 09:18 DanDuncombe *then 09:20 kaeza if you want to make it easy, copy the exe to the minetest/worlds/ folder 09:20 kaeza then shift-rightclick on an empty area of the windows in explorer 09:21 DanDuncombe Okay. 09:21 kaeza and select "open command prompt here" (or smth like that) 09:21 DanDuncombe Just put it in minetest/worlds? 09:21 kaeza yeah 09:21 DanDuncombe Done that 09:22 kaeza kaeza> then shift-rightclick on an empty area of the windows in explorer and select "open command prompt here" (or smth like that) 09:22 DanDuncombe Opened the command line 09:23 DanDuncombe I have to go verysoon 09:23 kaeza type "minetestmapper" (or whatever the name of the exe) 09:23 DanDuncombe Okay. What next? 09:24 kaeza uhh... "minetestmapper -i yourworldnamehere -o map.png" 09:24 DanDuncombe Okay, thankjs 09:24 kaeza IIRC 09:25 DanDuncombe I got an error that it tried to open map.sqlite in an unusual way and so crashed. 09:48 reac can worldedit set data values of blocks? 09:50 emerge Do anyone mind how to operate minetest.get_perlin_map()? 09:50 emerge I am trying to generate some noise using ABM. 09:51 Calinou reac: data values? 09:51 Calinou also, "blocks" are called "nodes" 09:51 reac yes 09:51 reac nodes' data value 09:51 reac like, stairs' rotation 09:51 reac and wool's colour 09:52 reac well wool colour is not in the data values 09:52 reac but stairs rotation is 09:52 Calinou oh, facedir 09:52 Calinou wool colour is just separate nodes 09:52 Calinou I don't think it can 09:52 reac facedir 09:52 reac hmm 09:52 reac yes, nothing like that in the docs 09:53 reac well at least it can handle the placed ones right 09:55 reac hmm 09:55 reac oh the facedir 09:56 emerge By the way, worldedit won't handle large chunks of map data. 09:56 Calinou doesn't it use VoxelManip now? 09:56 emerge Minetest will crash. 09:57 Calinou what is a large chunk for you? :P 09:57 emerge I was trying to copy out 1/4 of one server map. 09:58 emerge Maybe 100*100*80. 09:59 emerge Calinou> doesn't it use VoxelManip now? 09:59 emerge What do you mean? 10:01 Calinou something that speeds up placing or removing nodes 10:02 emerge hm 10:03 emerge thanks 10:07 reac hell yeah 10:07 reac I've fixed the script 10:07 reac where to I send the diff? 10:08 emerge github? 10:08 emerge https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit 10:09 reac no 10:09 reac not worldedit 10:09 reac tomtweschem.py 10:10 emerge Ask sfan5. 10:11 reac emerge: oh... I don't remember, for I don't have the logs handy, is he the author? 10:11 reac sfan5: eh! 10:11 emerge reac, yeah. 10:11 reac mk 10:11 emerge Also, you can make a post to tomtweschem.py topic with your diff. 10:12 recracktor I would not like to remember yat anothe password. 10:12 recracktor So I would really appreciate it if I could just mail it. 10:13 recracktor Does Minetest have a mailing list? 10:14 emerge idk 10:15 emerge If you give a link, I can post it. 10:15 recracktor okay I will open up a FTP when I boot back to my main system 10:15 recracktor and thank you in advance, sir 10:16 emerge you are welcome :3 10:19 Jordach kaeza, imageloader is awesome 10:19 kaeza Jordach, thanks :P 10:21 Jordach kaeza, spotted my 1080p wallpaper hanging about? 10:21 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102992#p102992 10:21 kaeza yeah. it's very good! 10:22 kaeza though I think the pickaxe should be more... to the hand 10:26 Jordach it's about the same position as it is with the wieldview mod 10:31 * Jordach considers doing a animation render test 10:34 recracktor does multithreading in MC apply to graphics as well? 10:34 recracktor I mean, for software rendering. 10:34 recracktor MT* 10:41 Exio4 hi 10:42 recracktor .iH 10:42 * Exio4 revs recracktor 10:44 Jordach btw, you can make xfce4 a gui on windows :) 10:47 Exio4 RealBadAngel: ! 10:47 Exio4 RealBadAngel: are you here? 10:50 recracktor Who needs Windows, anyway. 10:50 Exio4 ubuntu users need it 10:50 Calinou lol 10:51 recracktor oh yeah yeah 10:52 Exio4 oh 10:52 Exio4 zeg9 made a small "change to it", for making it work on his system 10:56 RealBadAngel Exio4, whats up? 10:56 Exio4 RealBadAngel: look at the "workaround" for irrlicht 1.8 10:57 RealBadAngel i just did. cool 10:58 RealBadAngel about your comment, parallax mapping is depending on view angle 10:59 Exio4 ah 10:59 Calinou parallax mapping looks bad on some angles 10:59 Calinou tesselation looks good from all angles :P 10:59 Jordach hey Calinou 10:59 Jordach seen my wallpaper? 10:59 Calinou no 10:59 Jordach it's in someone's wallpaper thread + my renders thread 11:00 RealBadAngel Calinou, i will implement many shaders for sure, maybe tesselation too 11:03 RealBadAngel Exio4, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6737 11:04 kahrl I don't think irrlicht supports tesselation 11:05 Calinou well, ok then 11:06 RealBadAngel kahrl, it doesnt mean it cannot be done 11:07 RealBadAngel btw, parallax mapping is supported by irrlicht natively, without shaders even 11:08 RealBadAngel but to use it you have to use another material type which would mean no shaders for that node 11:08 recracktor why does worledit use pos1 as the centre of what to paste? 11:08 recracktor Why not use it as one of the corners? 11:09 recracktor It's not convenient for bid pastes if you have to align them 11:09 recracktor big* 11:09 recracktor like, 1x1 km 11:09 recracktor you will have to go 500m, check the corner, then calculate corrections and repaste! 11:09 recracktor that's ridiculous 11:09 kahrl RealBadAngel: can't you put parallaxmap_solid in base.txt of a shader? 11:10 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/burger-time/ :) 11:11 RealBadAngel kahrl, i have rebuilt whole shaders tree 11:12 RealBadAngel there will be just 3 shaders no matter how many effects will be added 11:12 RealBadAngel i also solved problem with attribute variable for shaders 11:14 RealBadAngel all the configuration options will be passed to shaders, and every tile will be able to get its own parameters 11:15 RealBadAngel so, my next patch will remove extra shaders for bumpmapping 11:20 * Jordach creams over new shaders 11:21 RealBadAngel this weekend 11:21 RealBadAngel today i have last night shift and then whole week free 11:23 reactor back 11:27 Jordach RealBadAngel, seen what i've been doing? 11:27 Jordach it's a custom Sam model 11:31 Jordach the head alone has 11 bones 11:33 reactor Exio4: ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch 11:33 reactor If it was you who I was talking to. 11:33 reactor Someone on the E- 11:33 reactor I was under another system, haven't got the log. 11:41 RealBadAngel Jordach, yeah, your model looks cool 11:42 Jordach just implemented two eyelids instead of a single one; i'm using a all bones model 11:42 Jordach and no special trickery 11:42 reactor Or come on. 11:43 Jordach so Minetest can actually use my model :) 11:43 reactor Who was I talking to about the .py script, 11:43 reactor , 11:43 reactor ? 11:43 Jordach Exio4 11:43 Jordach Exio4: ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch 11:43 RealBadAngel i wish to see one day nice render like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAgDNzuiMs 11:43 reactor No. 11:43 reactor I don't remember if it was Exio4. 11:44 reactor Most likely not. 11:44 reactor Or is this channel logged? 11:44 reactor Or does anyone have logs from the last half hour? 11:45 reactor I do usually log, but on that system logging was not set up. 11:45 reactor So I can't really go back and search. 11:46 Jordach reactor, was it emerge? 11:46 reactor I don't know. 11:46 reactor Probably. 11:46 reactor Eh. 11:46 Jordach RealBadAngel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRchUwaZ6YA&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL2026E1A1A4DE6AA4 11:46 reactor There aren't many people on e here. 11:48 reactor Anyway... could someone having access to the forum post the patch there? 11:56 KikaRz Hi therez 12:03 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:03 reactor Hey PilzAdam. 12:05 KikaRz Hello PilzAdam 12:06 reactor sfan5: I've fixed it. 12:09 Jordach hey KikaRz 12:19 Jordach sfan5, alot has happened recently 12:19 Jordach and i mean alot 12:20 PilzAdam Im pretty sure you mean "a lot" 12:21 Jordach PilzAdam, sfan is annoyed when you say alot 12:21 Jordach very annoyed 12:23 Jordach PilzAdam, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6415 12:24 webdesigner97 hi :) 12:25 Peacock Peacock.error('expected coffee, got nil') 12:26 webdesigner97 :D 12:26 reactor so when I //load'ed the 90 MB scheme file 12:26 reactor it didn't process everything 12:27 reactor it only pasted like 40% of it, the nearest to me 12:27 reactor a square of the nearest parts 12:27 Peacock at 90mb, im not surprised lua flushed some or all of table before the operation finished + ungenerated chunks will do that too 12:28 Jordach hey Peacock 12:28 Peacock howdy 12:28 Jordach Peacock, the freenode operators can give you your freenode password in a email 12:28 Jordach so you can regain mauvebic 12:29 Peacock meh, i registered this nick and got a cloaking device, i can now travel the Romulan Neutral Zone with impunity 12:29 Jordach haha 12:30 Peacock though i was kinda surprised V didn't know who i was until last night :p 12:30 Peacock exio figured it out first and i talked to him all of 2 or 3 times :p 12:32 Peacock he'd make a good detective :-) 12:34 Peacock Peacock.breakfast({coffee=true,cigarette=true}) 12:35 PilzAdam D: 12:35 Peacock lol 12:35 PilzAdam cigarette=EVIL 12:35 Calinou ^ 12:35 Peacock but... http://youtu.be/YWSevt_i51w 12:36 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adUjMNtXkSQ&list=TLbev0NIfAbkU 12:36 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/QoNo6d5.png 12:36 Jordach dammit GNU MG 12:42 Peacock ive got it! i'll play Chuck Mangione in my jail :D 12:44 kaeza lol people usually make it look like you simply touch a smoke and you instantly die from cancer 12:44 PilzAdam kaeza, you dont die instantly, you have enough time to annoy all the people arround you 12:44 kaeza yet they don't acknowledge all the crap automobiles/factories whatever make 12:45 Peacock obese people annoy me too but for some reason society says we can't say anything bad about them :/ 12:45 Calinou I do both 12:45 Calinou Peacock: just like when you farm karma on train accidents. 8) 12:46 Peacock especially when you're some skinny dude sitting on a bus/metro and this landwhale sits next to you taking up half your seat 12:46 kaeza either way we won't quit smoking, so stop bitching 12:46 Jordach cigarétté Calinou :) 12:46 Peacock and its not like BO smells better than second hand smoke 12:47 Peacock people's unruly kids annoy me too 12:48 Peacock but parents are pretty defensive about their little brats :p 12:48 kaeza hah tell me about it 12:49 Peacock "he's just full of spirit!" how about he be full of my shoe up his ass (said red foreman) 12:49 Peacock people like me wouldn't need to smoke if everybody else wasn't so annoying lol 12:49 kaeza amen my bro 12:50 * Jordach often goes for the weed 12:50 Peacock i cut that out after ten years 12:50 kaeza eh I didn't touch that 12:50 kaeza (yet) 12:51 Jordach it doesnt kill you; it also kills cancers 12:51 Peacock not because it may be bad but because the dealers are unprofessional 12:51 kaeza but life's too short, so you gotta try everything :P 12:52 kaeza the key is moderation; anything in excess kills 12:52 Peacock + working in customer service it's hard to quit smoking, every other customer is like a visit from Queen Mum 12:52 Calinou or not 12:52 Calinou even a bit of smoking can hurt 12:52 jin_xi who cares 12:52 Peacock so can smog 12:52 Peacock heat waves 12:53 Calinou and it does 12:53 Peacock drunk drivers 12:53 Peacock schizophrenics 12:53 Peacock cops 12:53 Peacock trucks 12:54 Peacock assisted suicide can seriously damage your health too 12:54 Calinou the cost of smoking is enough to not make me smoke 12:55 Peacock ironically though, the gov' still controls distribution, even if theyre telling you its bad 12:55 Peacock and they wonder why people dont take drug laws seriously 12:56 Peacock though drug laws is just a way for cops to stop and frisk/arrest minorities 12:56 Peacock even Nixon spent more on rehab 13:01 Peacock ugh, pretty sure the cat stuck her paw down my throat while i was snoring, she always do that :/ 13:01 Jordach no that was nekogloop 13:01 Calinou or a pony 13:01 Peacock lol 13:03 Peacock you know my sister violet, she's the one with mercedes, swimming pool and room for a pony :p 13:08 Jordach lol mercedes 13:09 Peacock the scary bit is my mother has quite a lot of Hyacinth moments lol 13:28 sfan5 Please clap for Microsoft Support, first time they made a writing mistake 13:29 Peacock but linux's documentation is always complete and up to date :p 13:30 svuorela at least you have the source to fall back to on linux. 13:31 Peacock perhaps but that doesn't square with advocates trying to convert average users who do need documentation 13:34 NekoGloop meow~ 13:35 Jordach sfan5, alot 13:35 Jordach Microsoft always buggers up 13:36 Calinou forum reached 95000 posts 13:36 Peacock im sure jojoa could get that up to 100K in two weeks :p 13:39 MasterBot Hi 13:39 Peacock didn't know PilzAdam unbanned you :P 13:39 MasterBot shush!! 13:40 MasterBot Hold on a sec... 13:40 MasterBot PilzAdam you are a genious 13:40 MasterBot Unban my bot and keep me banned 13:41 Calinou wat 13:43 NekoGloop That would be easier if your nick was different than your bot's. 13:43 MasterBot FFS ubnan MarkTwain... 13:43 MasterBot That the unbans markveidemanis, MarkTwain, and mtmt 13:44 MasterBot Grouped in one account 13:44 Peacock how many names do you have? 13:45 Peacock lol 13:46 Peacock 05:44:25: ACTION[ServerThread]: Lolopes jailed for attempted griefing 13:53 reactor When are they donna implement undo in WE? 13:53 reactor s/don/gon/ 13:53 Peacock when you implement history :p 13:58 Jordach try ctrl+h 13:58 Jordach sfan5, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/272/rockin.png 13:59 Jordach and my mouth is on fire again; i should stop eating chilli :) 14:00 Jordach also: I've worked out individual fingers using bones 14:03 sfan5 Jordach: nice 14:07 ShadowNinja sfan5: Can you add //pos{1,2} [x,y,z|x y z] to WE? 14:07 KikaRz Guys 14:08 KikaRz why Minetest can't have one multi version client? 14:08 ShadowNinja KikaRz: ? 14:08 KikaRz I wanted one Multi version client :P 14:09 sfan5 ShadowNinja: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102572#p102572 14:09 Peacock http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/4de/34e/4de34e52-aaa9-4233-9d39-2b3a6e22dd24 14:09 PilzAdam bbl 14:09 sfan5 KikaRz: multi version? 14:09 KikaRz Yea 14:09 reactor sfan5: ?! 14:09 reactor sfan5: fixed your scropt man 14:09 reactor script 14:09 KikaRz one client that included: 14:09 KikaRz 0.1.0 14:10 KikaRz etc. 14:10 reactor just in case you haven't seen my messages above 14:10 Peacock sfan had a broken scropt? 14:10 reactor yes the converter 14:10 reactor from mcedit 14:10 reactor wrong x direction 14:10 ShadowNinja sfan5: Why not just //pos{1,2}? 14:10 Peacock ill have 12 mcedit's with sweet and sour sauce 14:11 reactor sfan5: would you patch it? 14:11 sfan5 reactor: its easy to patch 14:11 reactor I mean, 14:11 sfan5 ShadowNinja: dunno 14:11 reactor would you realease it? 14:11 reactor For I've made the patch. 14:19 hoodedice So, how do I find out my current position in xyz? 14:19 Peacock F5 14:21 hoodedice Thanks =) 14:21 Peacock np 14:23 hoodedice hmm, Uruk limits are (1000,1000) in X and Z coords, right? 14:23 hoodedice (Shouldbeobvious) 14:24 Peacock 1000,1000 to 1250,1250 14:24 Peacock the pad i placed is dead-center 14:24 hoodedice hmm 14:24 hoodedice I am placing borders atm 14:25 Peacock heavy railings? 14:25 Peacock make sure its just inside the area if you dont want ppl digging it up 14:26 hoodedice just torches 14:26 hoodedice I guess 999.9 is inside = 14:26 hoodedice =P 14:26 Peacock should be safe :-) 14:27 hanny hi :D 14:27 Peacock tho im not sure ppl will recognize torches as border markings 14:27 hoodedice :) 14:27 hanny is mirc the correct irc to download ? 14:27 Calinou lol nope 14:27 Calinou http://hexchat.github.io 14:27 hoodedice No one visits Uruk, anyway, since the only thing here is just a teleport 14:28 MasterBot I have made the most useless program 14:28 MasterBot http://pastebin.com/cgxH2rjt 14:28 MasterBot !title 14:28 MinetestBot MasterBot: [Python] y = 1 while 1: x = "variable%i" % y vars()[x] = y y = y+1 - Pastebin.com 14:28 Peacock ppl keep asking for citizenship, but when i point them to forum, they dont post lol 14:28 Peacock so fuck'em lol 14:28 hanny so i need x86 for a 32 bit laptop ? 14:29 Peacock i hate using ingame chat, crashes every 5 or 6 msgs 14:29 MasterBot Then dont post long things 14:29 MasterBot Thats how it crashes 14:29 hanny calinou do i need x86 for my 32 bit laptop 14:30 Peacock people ask questions that require complicated answers 14:30 Peacock by the time im done explaning, the beginning is no longer visible 14:30 Calinou hanny: 32 bit, then x86 14:30 Calinou >2013 >32 bit, anyway :P 14:31 hanny lol my laptop is bout 4-5 years old :P 14:31 * IceCraft a wild ipv6 user appeared 14:33 Jordach hanny, yes 14:33 Jordach hai IC 14:33 hanny it crashes when i launch it 14:34 hanny it says it has stopped working 14:35 IceCraft hai 14:38 reactor sfan5: you don't get it 14:38 sfan5 reactor: what? 14:39 reactor sfan5: I'm not publishing it on my own, because I can't be bothered to register on the forum; I thought it was reasonable to contact the developer (you?) and pass the patches 14:39 sfan5 which patch? 14:39 hoodedice =) 14:40 reactor for yout mcedit filter 14:40 reactor your* 14:40 reactor it flips X coordinate 14:40 sfan5 yeah 14:49 hoodedice Peacock. I don't understand my coords now 14:50 hoodedice wait. Just got it. Sorry. #Emabarrass 14:54 reactor sfan5: shit. 14:54 reactor or not 14:54 reactor I read the scrollback so that it ended on your question. 14:54 sfan5 yeah is not a question 14:54 reactor Lame. 14:55 reactor 20:39 < sfan5> which patch? 14:55 sfan5 you didn't answer 14:55 reactor That's why I said "shit". 14:55 reactor 20:40 < reactor> for yout mcedit filter 14:55 reactor corrects the X axis handling. 14:55 reactor damn it 14:56 sfan5 but you said something about a patch 14:58 Jordach patch to WE that fixes the x axis 14:58 Jordach that's what reactor is trying to say 14:58 Peacock hoodedice sry im gonna be afk most of today, players will have to fend for themselves 14:58 Peacock pm if griefers 14:59 Jordach or: reactor has a patch for worldedit to flip mcedit filter on the x axis; meaning buildings are correctly coverted 14:59 hoodedice =) 14:59 hoodedice Ok 14:59 hoodedice tI won't be long either, sorry 14:59 Peacock got lots of stuff to pack/clean 14:59 Peacock and i gotta put all the landlords' old crap back (shitty knobs, showerhead, etc. lol) 15:00 Jordach nearly done the fingers sfan5 15:02 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/AWBdeQ1.png 15:03 Jordach and this is the basic blend file that Taoki[laptop] provided :) 15:03 Jordach this the Sam II i was talking of 15:07 reactor sfan5: exactly 15:07 reactor damn it 15:07 reactor the patch for your script 15:07 reactor that fixes the bloody x coordinate error 15:07 sfan5 WHERE IS THAT GODDAMN PATCH? 15:07 reactor ftp:///94.51.130.133/pub/tomtweschem-correct-x.patch 15:08 sfan5 - 1: 3, 15:08 sfan5 - 0: 1, 15:08 sfan5 + 1: 1, 15:08 sfan5 + 0: 3, 15:08 sfan5 why that? 15:11 sfan5 reactor! 15:11 reactor Yes? 15:11 reactor Say what? 15:11 reactor Ah. 15:11 reactor Stairs facing. 15:12 reactor Needed to swap the two. 15:12 sfan5 I tested it and it worked 100% correct 15:12 reactor NO. 15:12 sfan5 no? 15:12 reactor Yours flips X. 15:12 reactor Try copying an asymmetrical building. 15:12 reactor Damn it. 15:12 sfan5 ah, wait 15:12 reactor I've already mentioned it. 15:12 reactor It's even apparent on the screenshots in the forum. 15:12 sfan5 if the X axis flips the X stair things also flips 15:13 reactor No, X position and facing direction are separate 15:13 reactor How long ago did you write that script eh? 15:14 sfan5 umm 15:14 sfan5 1 or 2 months I think 15:14 reactor And you've forgotten how it works. Perfect. 15:15 sfan5 no 15:15 hoodedice reactor, do you have stairs in your house? 15:15 reactor I do. 15:15 reactor A lot of. 15:16 reactor I live in a flat block. 15:16 hoodedice Hmm, how many stairs are there in your house? 15:16 reactor 5-storied block 15:16 reactor about ten 15:16 reactor ten staircases 15:17 reactor or how many stairs themselves? 15:17 reactor about 10x11=110 15:17 reactor Why? 15:18 hoodedice You use your staircase everyday, yet are unsure about it's number. How can sfan5, who coded it 60 days ago remember how the fudge his code works? 15:18 hoodedice *its 15:18 sfan5 I know how my code works 15:18 reactor hoodedice: I don't have Aspergers. 15:18 reactor I don't count the damn stairs. 15:18 reactor s/the // 15:19 reactor sfan5: then why are you questioning how stairs are oriented? 15:19 reactor if you know better? 15:20 sfan5 reactor: I'm not questioning how stairs are oriented 15:20 sfan5 but that code does 100% work 15:21 hoodedice Peacock: Later 15:21 sfan5 I think minetest should do more variation when spawning people: http://i.imgur.com/R48x1at.png 15:22 ShadowNinja Um... 15:23 ShadowNinja for i=0;i<100: connect_client(hash(i))? 15:23 ShadowNinja +i++; 15:24 kaeza behold! 15:25 kaeza rule 34 has reached Minetest :P 15:25 sfan5 ShadowNinja: no, for i=0; i<250; i++ do connect_client(random_name(), random_pass()) sleep(0.04) end 15:25 * kaeza runs off 15:25 Calinou kaeza: never! 15:25 sfan5 250 clients, 25 per second 15:25 Calinou we just started getting rule 63 already 15:26 kaeza ask sfan5; he made a Sam orgy :P 15:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: Your Minetest DOS program? 15:26 ShadowNinja DoS* 15:26 reactor sfan5: it does not work 100% 15:27 reactor sfan5: it inverts the damn x coordinate 15:27 reactor sfan5: you can even see it in the screenshots you posted as examples 15:27 sfan5 ShadowNinja: umm.. 15:27 reactor sfan5: examine the building thoroughly 15:27 sfan5 reactor: I know that, I meant the change in the stair code 15:27 reactor wiith Mark I Eyeball 15:27 reactor sfan5: yes, and the change in the x code required that cahnge 15:28 reactor change* 15:28 reactor otherwise stairs would be flipped 15:28 sfan5 reactor: THAT WAS THE THING I WAS MEANING BY "<sfan5> if the X axis flips the X stair things also flips" 15:28 reactor you need to both flip x and stairs 15:28 ShadowNinja sfan5: You mentioned that Minetest was very vulnerable to (D)DoS attacks and said you made a program to test it. 15:28 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I said that I made a program to test? When? where? 15:29 ShadowNinja Hmmm, maybe someone else made the DoS script. But I remember there was one. 15:30 sfan5 some person made one and abuse a public wifi or so.. 15:30 sfan5 mhm, now I remember I said how easy it was to make such script 15:31 ShadowNinja You have one now... 15:31 sfan5 the big thing is that you don't even need to get a single byte back from the server for it to work 15:31 sfan5 -> you can spoof your IP 15:31 MasterBot ... 15:31 ShadowNinja That is why me and Vanessa lowered our max playercounts. 15:32 sfan5 ShadowNinja: it doesn't cause high RAM usage, but CPU goess high 15:32 sfan5 -s 15:32 sfan5 RAM is probably the issue on most servers 15:32 ShadowNinja sfan5: You should probably lower the default setting to 32 or so. 15:32 sfan5 s/is/would probably be/ 15:32 sfan5 good idea 15:33 Calinou limit used to be 20 by default 15:33 Calinou 32 sounds good 15:33 Calinou that wouldn't limit any server 15:33 sfan5 100 is too high IMO 15:34 Calinou yes 15:35 sfan5 also, who would like encrypted minetest connections? 15:36 reactor yeah, why need that? 15:36 reactor well, someone drawing huge swastikas would 15:36 reactor but no one beside that 15:36 sfan5 reactor: umm, no 15:36 sfan5 secures the connection against evil providers 15:37 sfan5 no, but MC has it too 15:39 sfan5 no other opinions? 15:42 nalkri I would like connections to be encrypted 15:45 reactor what evil providers? 15:46 reactor would they give a fuck about games? 15:46 ShadowNinja I would like that for passwords, not sure how usefull it would be for the rest. 15:46 reactor they usually block torrents and such 15:46 sfan5 ShadowNinja: for passwords we first need salted password 15:47 sfan5 passwords* 15:47 Exio4 passwords are already salted... 15:47 Exio4 ...using the nickname 15:47 ShadowNinja sfan5: They are salted, with the player name. 15:47 Exio4 you got exio'd :P 15:47 sfan5 reactor: the thing with evil providers was a joke, but people who could intercept your traffic could make you say in chat "heil hitler" instead of "hi, hows it going" 15:48 sfan5 ShadowNinja: player name isn't enough if people use the same name on multiple servers 15:48 sfan5 depends on how it is salted and hashed 15:49 ShadowNinja Or, run a command like //pos1 -20,-20,-20 //pos2 20,20,20 //set air. 15:49 sfan5 ^ 15:49 sfan5 good example, I wouldn't have thought of that 15:50 ShadowNinja But how much will this slow the connection down? 15:50 sfan5 maybe 2 or 3 ms 15:50 sfan5 depending on the network speed too 15:51 sfan5 all the attacker needs to do is pipe the traffic through and inject a packet when he wants 15:51 reactor sfan5: meh. 15:51 reactor who would do that 15:51 nalkri Anon 15:51 sfan5 s/wants/wants to/ 15:51 reactor only sick kids would do that 15:52 sfan5 that may be right, but it is still possible 15:54 reactor what's the prpbability of that? 15:54 reactor probability of anyone doing that 15:54 reactor huh? 15:54 reactor it's not worth programmers' time 15:56 Jordach you know when you login with the wrong password 15:56 Jordach that some of the server media comes with the packet telling you its wrong 15:57 sapier1 Minetest network protocol isn't safe by any means protecting against attacks like that require a complete redesign of communication I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon 15:57 sfan5 redesign? 15:57 sfan5 we would "just" need a DHE implementation and an encryption algorithm 15:57 sapier1 Of course whole client server communication has to be redone 15:58 sapier1 You have to add authentication too 15:58 sapier1 In best case put an envelope around any packet 15:59 sapier1 In worst case this triggers more complex issues ... And of course don,t ever ask about compatibility ;-) 15:59 sfan5 authentication for what? 16:00 sapier1 Encryption isn't worth anything without authentication 16:01 sfan5 you mean there should be public key auth for servers? 16:01 ShadowNinja When connecting the first time there should be a password confirmation. 16:02 sfan5 that'd make it more complicated for the user 16:04 reactor it's not worth the time 16:04 reactor who's gonna fake a game? 16:05 Exio4 reactor: it wasn't my comment 16:05 reactor okay 16:05 Exio4 errr 16:05 Exio4 RealBadAngel: 16:05 reactor ?! 16:05 Exio4 used 'rea'* :P 16:05 RealBadAngel :P 16:06 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, hows the rewrite? 16:06 RealBadAngel btw im gonna merge wrench by now, its cool 16:22 MinetestBot PilzAdam is back! 16:23 Exio4 he isn't 16:23 * Exio4 slaps MinetestBot 16:24 * PilzAdam slaps Exio4 16:24 * MinetestBot hugs PilzAdam 16:24 * Exio4 backstabs PilzAdam & hugs MinetestBot 16:24 Exio4 :3 16:25 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head 16:25 khonkhortisan other bots don't seem to like that. 16:25 * MinetestBot puts a khonkhortisan on kitten's head 16:25 MasterBot Lol 16:25 khonkhortisan *meow* 16:25 PilzAdam MasterBot, what do you do here? 16:25 PilzAdam you should be banned 16:26 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MasterBot, while staying on the kitten 16:26 Exio4 he should be kickbanned now for ban evading and make his original ban longer 16:26 Exio4 unless he /part(s) now :D 16:26 PilzAdam !op 16:28 PilzAdam !deop 16:29 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: I got alloy and electric furnaces fixed. Next is the grinder. 16:30 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, good. Have you seen wrench patch? 16:31 ShadowNinja No. 16:31 RealBadAngel check it out then 16:31 RealBadAngel its cool 16:32 RealBadAngel propably we will have to make regular/power tool versions of it 16:32 RealBadAngel but the idea rocks the house 16:32 ShadowNinja What does it do? 16:32 RealBadAngel pick the full chest and place it somwhere else 16:33 RealBadAngel or any machine 16:34 RealBadAngel picked item holds all its inventories 16:36 reactor What is MasterBot trying to accomplish? 16:36 sfan5 probably trolling 16:41 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899276873.png nodebox maker from withing minetest. 16:41 bas080 within* 16:42 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899378884.png 16:42 bas080 Lowl! 16:43 khonkhortisan and that's inside the other blue building? 16:44 bas080 The big blue table with his smaller nodebox brother 16:46 bas080 scale of big model is 16x 16:52 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_899989313.png 16:53 bas080 You can make whatever easily! 16:53 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: Just make sure not to merge #70 or I will have another machine to fix... 16:53 Jordach !seen hoodedice 16:53 MinetestBot Jordach: hoodedice was last seen at 2013-07-31 15:21:11 UTC on #minetest 16:54 ShadowNinja As soon as I finish this I will have a dozen issues to close... 16:54 PenguinDad https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103106#p103106 16:54 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, im not mergin anything related to power 16:55 RealBadAngel first your work, then smaller changes 16:59 PenguinDad Salut Calinou 16:59 Calinou hi 17:00 reactor sfan5: use your Eyeball Mk. I on this: http://i.imgur.com/CC7215r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iiOqrCP.jpg 17:01 reactor look at the part of the pavement that has been copied 17:01 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: Is there a tube side overlay texture? 17:01 reactor sfan5: the hole was to the left, now it's to the right, that's what I'm talking about. 17:02 sfan5 reactor: I've already got what you mean 17:02 reactor Oh. 17:02 reactor Sorry. 17:02 reactor Redundant then. 17:05 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Does pipeworks include a tube overlay texture? If it doesn't it should, and it seems it replaces the chect and furnace tectures by suppliing annother default_{chest,furnace}_side.png texture. 17:17 reactor sfan5: oh shit 17:17 reactor wrong axit 17:17 reactor axis 17:17 reactor x is actually right 17:17 reactor z is fl;ipped 17:17 sfan5 could you make a patch for that 17:17 reactor I will. 17:18 sfan5 I didn't add that anyway because I had things to do 17:18 sfan5 thanks 17:18 reactor yep 17:18 reactor I recall this patch then 17:18 reactor tomorrow I'll try z 17:19 reactor or not 17:19 reactor no 17:19 reactor sfan5: no, it was actually correct 17:19 reactor it's just I'm so confused now I can't think straight 17:19 reactor I'm not sure at all now 17:19 reactor I'll tell you tomorrow if I was right about x 17:20 sfan5 k 17:20 reactor it looks like minetest and minecraft have different vector bases 17:21 VanessaE hi all. 17:21 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I don't remember if I used overlays in the tubes (I don't think so, just in pipes). And yeah, it modifies the chests' textures so that they have holes in the sides 17:24 Peacock why do ppl come on to MT servers expecting conversation but wont signup to forums or use IRC? *confused* 17:25 Calinou the same reason people dual boot 17:25 Peacock ? 17:25 Calinou :P 17:26 VanessaE Peacock: pure laziness 17:26 Peacock i dont get it :P 17:26 VanessaE plus there are a few privacy nuts out there 17:26 Peacock im not even at the keyboard most of the time and people storm off because im "ignoring them" lol 17:26 VanessaE do what I did - create a second account to use incognito 17:26 Peacock the alternative is shutting down the server everytime im busy lol 17:27 VanessaE never tell anyone its you :) 17:27 Peacock until you tell someone to follow the rules 17:27 VanessaE or run a dedicated server instead of using the GUI 17:27 Peacock minetestserver? thats what i started now 17:27 Peacock the P4 is getting on in age, i was thinking of installing puppy to run the server 17:28 VanessaE right, then you don't need to bother signing in if you're busy 17:28 Peacock true 17:28 Peacock and autoban is mature enough that none of the griefers managed any damage today 17:29 VanessaE I may have to ...ahem...borrow that mod from you ;) 17:29 Peacock well you have node protection right? 17:30 VanessaE yeah but I don't protect *everything* 17:30 VanessaE just the roads and the buildings that have an owner 17:30 Peacock me neither 17:30 Peacock but spawn and 1000 nodes around is 17:30 VanessaE doesn't keep people from spilling lava all over the land etc. 17:30 Peacock *500 17:30 svuorela maybe I_should try playing on a server with other people once ... 17:31 Peacock when my players fail to dig/place 10 times in a protected area, theyre jailed 17:31 Peacock after 15 attempts, theyre banned 17:31 svuorela how does one see a protected areas ? 17:31 VanessaE svuorela: /list_areas 17:32 VanessaE (if it'll let you, I forget) 17:32 Kacey band camp… they are trying to kill me… 17:32 VanessaE I wish node_ownership had a way to let you determine what area number belongs to a given node when you're trying to dig through a long list of owners 17:33 svuorela so where is there a fun server (where I can play with minecraft stable) ? 17:33 Peacock http://pastebin.com/QFCns6vN 17:33 VanessaE minecraft? 17:33 VanessaE um 17:33 svuorela eh. 17:33 svuorela typ 17:33 VanessaE this is minetest. 17:33 svuorela typo 17:33 VanessaE that's some typo :) 17:33 svuorela yeah 17:33 VanessaE anyway, don't use stable. it's old. 17:33 svuorela but the keys are all next to eachother. 17:33 VanessaE of course they're next to each other, otherwise you'd need a keytable instead of a keyboard :P 17:34 Peacock all you need todo is add line in protection that ATTEMPTS[playername] + 1 everytime they fail to dig/place in protected area 17:34 VanessaE rigfht 17:34 VanessaE right* 17:34 VanessaE I may eventually do something like that 17:34 Peacock and call handle_attempts after 17:34 Peacock (pastebin ^) 17:35 VanessaE oh, I didn't see that 17:35 Peacock and i suggest autobanning Guests since most of them come back as Guest#### 17:35 VanessaE naw, no interact by default anyways 17:35 VanessaE and I won't grant such to a "guest" 17:35 Peacock that works too lol 17:36 Peacock i like to give new ppl benefit of the doubt, they can build in freebuild areas, but try griefing protected areas and bye bye lol 17:37 Peacock as for digging up roads... dont have any connecting diff areas, i use transporters to connect them 17:37 Peacock transporters themselves, anyone can setup outgoing transporter, but only admin can set endpoints 17:39 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Make bumpmapping compatible with irrlicht 1.8 c6cb97e693 2013-07-31T10:35:28-07:00 http://git.io/e0zPcA 17:47 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, could a player-controlled entity (hovercrafts) have stepheight enabling them to go up slabs, stairs etc? 17:48 PilzAdam yes 17:48 DanDuncombe What do I add? step_height or stepheight or what? 17:49 PilzAdam stepheight = 0.6 17:49 DanDuncombe I tried step_height = 1, but it didn't seem to do anything. 17:49 PilzAdam remove the _ 17:49 PilzAdam feel free to look at the docs 17:49 DanDuncombe Doesn't work. 17:50 PilzAdam what Minetest version do you have? 17:50 DanDuncombe Minetest 0.4.7, git number: 17:50 DanDuncombe minetest-0.4.7-215e37a-win32 17:50 PilzAdam thats too old 17:50 DanDuncombe What is the newest then? 17:51 PilzAdam I can make new win build now 17:51 DanDuncombe Thanks. 17:51 DanDuncombe Will it have stepheight comapatability? 17:52 DanDuncombe How long will it take as well? 17:52 DanDuncombe Just a rough idea 17:55 reactor what is farmesh? 17:56 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK in other/ 17:56 DanDuncombe Thanks! 17:56 PilzAdam note that once you opened a world in it its not backwards compatible anymore 17:56 DanDuncombe I don't mind 17:56 PilzAdam we are working on fixing that currently 17:57 DanDuncombe The menufixes3 one? 17:57 DanDuncombe a59f85c 17:57 PilzAdam no 17:58 PilzAdam c6cb97e-stuff 17:58 DanDuncombe Where is that one? 17:58 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/am3ddzfm8qxz9w0/VlbFIebGBK in other/ 17:58 DanDuncombe Is it in old or other? 17:59 DanDuncombe 'cause I can't see it. 18:00 PilzAdam ooops 18:00 PilzAdam its now in other/ 18:00 DanDuncombe Wrong one? 18:01 DanDuncombe Found it! 18:01 svuorela so. trying a server without any trees :/ 18:01 DanDuncombe Erm? 18:01 DanDuncombe How do you do stuff? 18:02 DanDuncombe Like,make a pick? 18:02 nalkri Compress mud 18:03 DanDuncombe Ok... 18:03 PenguinDad svuorela which server? 18:04 svuorela PenguinDad: sfan5 I think 18:14 DanDuncombe VanessaE: I have updated hovercraft to go up stairs and slabs, the really very latest PilzAdam build is required. Commit number c6cb97e-stuff in his dropbox. 18:14 VanessaE ok 18:14 VanessaE I'll check it later. 18:14 DanDuncombe Ok. 18:16 Jordach i have a folder with all known textures needed to make a texture pack 18:16 Jordach (for minetest_game 0.4.7) 18:20 DanDuncombe For evey mod ever? 18:20 VanessaE the easy way to get a list like that is to download HDX 16px :P 18:20 VanessaE (it's only a 20MB download) 18:21 VanessaE though that skips a couple of mods the higher sizes support 18:22 Jordach VanessaE, vanilla textures only 18:22 Jordach so it serves another usage: remote_media 18:23 VanessaE for i in `find minetestfolder/ -type f -name *.png`; do cp $i alltextures/ ; echo $i >> texturelist.txt; done 18:23 VanessaE (of course that'll grab a few files that aren't needed for a texture pack, and it assumes minetest_game is installed under games/ like usual) 18:24 PenguinDad VanessaE: I think Jordach has made it for windows users 18:24 Jordach and considering im using windows myself 18:24 PenguinDad meow NekoGloop 18:24 VanessaE surely windows has some kind of shell that can do that ^^^ 18:24 VanessaE hi neko 18:25 Jordach i suggest i make life easy for the non technical texturers 18:25 * NekoGloop sits on PenguinDad's head 18:25 PenguinDad :) 18:25 Exio4 [15:24:52] surely windows has some kind of shell that can do that ^^^ 18:25 Exio4 > windows 18:25 Exio4 > useful shell 18:26 Exio4 the only useful shell i know is msys/cygwin and is slow as fuck 18:27 Exio4 VanessaE: it will take minimal textures 'for it' too 18:27 Exio4 and find i in `` isn't uber safe :P 18:28 VanessaE it's safe enough for minetest files :) 18:28 kaeza >msys >slow >wat 18:28 * NekoGloop bites kaeza 18:28 ruskie powershell is fairly useful 18:29 Exio4 kaeza: use it 18:29 kaeza are you using a 386? :P 18:29 Exio4 kaeza: windows makes it run like a 386 18:29 NekoGloop I'm using 386 pokemon 18:29 kaeza Exio4, lol no 18:29 * Peacock skins NekoGloop to make bodysuit 18:29 Exio4 kaeza: lol yes 18:29 Exio4 at least in the hardware i tried 18:29 kaeza Exio4, ProTip: use rxvt, not a plain cmd prompt 18:29 Exio4 i mean in terms of 'real scripts' 18:30 Exio4 sed + bash regex parsing + 'stuff' 18:30 Peacock http://youtu.be/XTs_TZFjbJ8 18:30 PenguinDad !title 18:30 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Buffalo Bill Dance Goodbye Horses Silence of the Lambs - YouTube 18:30 kaeza it's not *TAHT* slow 18:30 kaeza THAT * 18:30 Exio4 it is 18:30 Exio4 running something native, was about 1~ minute with some script 18:31 Exio4 the same was 15~ minutes in the same hardware and with LESS things using the cpu 18:31 kaeza then you may be using a 386 indeed 18:31 Exio4 the hardware i used was, first, a laptop with a sempron, an old celeron, and an intel atom 18:31 kaeza it used to be really fast when I had my Celeron @333MHz 18:31 Exio4 msys fast? 18:31 Exio4 XD 18:32 kaeza yeah 18:32 Exio4 did you compare it with the native performance? 18:32 kaeza faster than MSVC at least :P 18:32 Exio4 i mean, don't run ls, only 18:32 svuorela PenguinDad: you are standing still ? 18:32 Exio4 kaeza: i'm talking about its shell 18:32 VanessaE is there a tool that will delete "immortal" entities? 18:32 Exio4 MSVC doesn't have a shell 18:32 Exio4 does it? 18:32 kaeza yes it does 18:32 PenguinDad svuorela: I'm loading 18:32 kaeza well, not a shell 18:33 svuorela PenguinDad: oh. 18:33 kaeza that's what cmd.exe/command.com is for 18:33 svuorela maybe I shouldn't be hitting you with a block of dirt 18:33 Exio4 cmd.exe has an use? TIL 18:33 kaeza with the right configuration, it's bearable 18:33 Exio4 if you have virtualization hardware acell 18:34 kaeza (read configuration as, tons of batch files for switching paths and such) 18:34 Exio4 acel, or w/e 18:34 Exio4 adding a small layer of virtualization is faster than plain 'msys' 18:34 Exio4 or cygwin 18:34 Exio4 for a shell, that is 18:36 kaeza the problem is not the shell itself; it's the stupid Windows not caching stuff properly 18:37 kaeza or just the effing inefficient windoes exe loader 18:37 kaeza dows* 18:38 kaeza anyway, I read on the internet, so it must be true 18:38 Exio4 yes, i know 18:39 Exio4 it is still slow as hell though 18:59 Jordach the more you use an app the faster it goes in windows 19:00 Jordach aseprite used to be slow as hell until i started using it daily 19:00 Jordach now it runs moderately quick 19:01 ShadowNinja *Sigh* So far I have rolled back two good players because they messed with a greifing. Now I have to lose everything done within the last day. 19:02 Peacock dont they know not to eff with a grief? 19:03 kaeza LOL https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103103#p103103 19:03 kaeza very fitting :) 19:03 Peacock saw that one b4 :p 19:03 Peacock its a very old joke :P 19:04 kaeza I don't mean about the comic itself, but about the topic 19:04 Peacock ugh 19:04 Peacock the JJ abrams effect 19:04 Peacock it would be better with more lens flares :p 19:06 Peacock http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1srVB7Ihd-8/TUThNm4aPiI/AAAAAAAAAgE/Zeem7AMzuqU/s400/Screen%2Bshot%2B2011-01-30%2Bat%2B11.53.40%2BAM%2B%25282%2529.png 19:07 ShadowNinja Rollback_check takes a minute. grep takes miliseconds. 19:08 Peacock meh rollback, my users can either build a shield or request citizenship 19:10 ShadowNinja Great, this is what, the tenth time I have banned this one player? 19:10 Peacock besides if griefers sign in with different names they can overlap griefs 19:10 Peacock ten times? cant we have unique client IDs? 19:11 ShadowNinja This is at least the third time. 19:11 Peacock i know your pain lol 19:11 Peacock some people come back every day 19:11 Peacock and when you ban them, they try signing on as guests two seconds later 19:12 Peacock its not dificult to release/renew IP 19:12 Peacock hell back in the city i would spoof MAC adresses for free wifi 19:12 ShadowNinja But they should be IP banned. And it is always the same username. 19:12 Peacock it only bans IPs? then why put the name in the logs? lol 19:12 Peacock i thought it applied to both IP/name 19:13 ShadowNinja I think it is IP AND player name. 19:16 Peacock i think ive had some banned people come back under the same name 19:16 Peacock or variations of it 19:18 Peacock i dont know what our own people are doing to MC, but i get alot of MC players trying to come grief me too 19:18 kaeza https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban :3 19:18 ShadowNinja http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5933807/ 19:18 ShadowNinja kaeza: He isn't listed for some reason. 19:19 ShadowNinja I added him to future_ban ... again. 19:19 Peacock i already ban guest names, thinking of adding anything with MC or minecraft in it too :p 19:20 Peacock client should just dump guest names and force ppl to chose a name 19:20 ShadowNinja He is also unaffected by rollback I think. But I did rm my log... 19:21 kaeza ban users with all caps, and all lowercase letters, and who use l3375p33k, and... 19:21 Peacock ah, you get brazilian griefers too :p 19:21 Peacock i get half a dozen spanish speaking griefers sign on at the same time, i almost wonder if its not a botnet or soemthing lol 19:21 NekoGloop How do these sound for my Pokemon hack's starters? Trapinch, Spheal, and Aron 19:22 ShadowNinja Nope, still unaffected by rollback. I will have to fix this manually. 19:23 Peacock wanna share banlists? 19:23 Peacock thinking of writing a mod that posts mine to pastebin 19:23 kaeza NekoGloop, not bad 19:24 NekoGloop :3 19:24 NekoGloop Trapinch is hardmode! :D 19:24 Calinou lol xban 19:25 Calinou inb4 shitstorm 19:27 DanDuncombe VanessaE, is the server updated for the slab/stair hovercrafts? 19:27 VanessaE not yet 19:27 DanDuncombe Okay. 19:27 DanDuncombe How recent is the map download for the server? 19:29 VanessaE you mean the overview map? 19:29 VanessaE or the actual world files? 19:29 DanDuncombe The world files and overview map. 19:29 Calinou kaeza: ban users whose name is surrounded with xX 19:30 VanessaE the overview map is several days old at most, the world files aren't available for download anymore (and are a couple weeks old at least) 19:30 Peacock xX? 19:30 kaeza Calinou, lol +1 19:30 DanDuncombe Peacock: Like this: xXlolzgrieferXx 19:31 kaeza xXt3h_snipurXx <-- some n00b playing CS the other day 19:32 Peacock just banned miner lol 19:33 Peacock seriously, anounce banlists like you anounce servers lol 19:33 Peacock dunno why devs are more concerned with griefers privacy lol 19:34 Calinou announcing IPs isn't that good 19:34 Calinou might as well publicly disclose IPs when players join/leave 19:34 Peacock tell me if im wrong, but doesn't IRC share ban lists? 19:34 Calinou it does, but you can use cloaks 19:35 DanDuncombe Why does minetest_mapper only work for some worlds, with others throwing a 'Db' error? 19:35 Calinou it's not like IRC is too modern either 19:35 Peacock well griefing kinda discourages multiplayer lol 19:36 DanDuncombe Also, how do I add new nodes to colors.txt with minetest_mapper? 19:36 Peacock text editor :p 19:37 Peacock or editing builtin to make a list 19:37 DanDuncombe But how to add a new node? 19:37 DanDuncombe Like, how to add the colour? 19:37 Peacock look at the list you already have, im sure youll figure it out :-) 19:37 DanDuncombe What colour format are they? 19:37 Peacock rgb? 19:37 DanDuncombe Maybe they are RGB? 19:37 DanDuncombe I will try it. 19:38 PenguinDad they RGB 19:38 Peacock dan, are you MarkV? 19:38 DanDuncombe No, I am DanDuncombe 19:39 PenguinDad real? ;) 19:39 Peacock you talk like mark v lol 19:39 PilzAdam Peacock, it cant be Markv, hes banned 19:39 DanDuncombe My forum profile: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=5529 19:40 Peacock forum profiles dont give any identifiable information lol 19:41 Peacock not for us users at least 19:49 DanDuncombe VanessaE, you have a huge colours.txt for minetestmapper, could you add support for my camo mod? All the stuff like fake nodes can be the same colour, just the actual camo stuff would be new colours. 19:50 VanessaE remind me later, kinda busy right now, then going to bed after this 19:51 DanDuncombe You have many years to do it in :) 19:52 Jordach VanessaE, you lazy fuck 19:52 Jordach it's 9pm here 19:53 Peacock its earlier than that in N.A. lol 19:55 VanessaE :P 19:55 VanessaE going on 4pm here, and I haven't slept but 2 hours since yesterday afternoon 19:55 * NekoGloop sits on VanessaE's head 19:55 VanessaE so sod off :) 19:56 Peacock pansy :P w/ back pains havent slept more than 3 hours/night all week :p 19:57 Peacock ill have to put off my invasion of Czechoslovakia to next week :/ 19:58 DanDuncombe Why does minetest_mapper only work on some worlds? 19:58 Peacock is your world running? 19:59 DanDuncombe Nope. Turns out they seem to have to be a one word long name only. 20:00 PenguinDad DanDuncombe have you tried this 'This is a long name' 20:00 Peacock Darmok_and_Jallad_at_Tanagra? 20:03 DanDuncombe It always works as long as there are no spaces in the name, it seems. 20:04 DanDuncombe My map of the hydroelectric dam (a map I made, is on the forum) http://s24.postimg.org/qtl6a5oqd/hydroelectric_dam.png 20:04 Peacock what about '' or ""? 20:05 DanDuncombe Maybe, yes 20:05 DanDuncombe Has anyone got a good submarine, in we format? 20:06 Peacock i had a good 12" sub with smoked meat, peperoni and steak :-) 20:06 nalkri Would it be helpful or churlish to point out that dams should curve? 20:06 Peacock the Triple Bypass Special :D 20:07 DanDuncombe nalkri: This was a while ago, now, and anyway, the main structure is default:steelblock, so it should stay strong. 20:07 nalkri But what it's holding back is default:shitloadofwater 20:08 DanDuncombe It worked awesomely with finite water. It gradually pours through the twin turbines. 20:09 Peacock how long ago you built it? 20:09 Calinou >finite worker >working 20:10 DanDuncombe I made it absolutely ages ago, couldn't say when. look at the forum post. 20:17 VanessaE bbl 20:26 svuorela with mesecons, what's the trick to connect a pressure plate to opening a door ? 20:29 Miner_48er opening it or closing it? 20:31 svuorela preferably both. close it when I'm coming 'home'. and opening it when I'm about to leave 20:32 svuorela if I just place a pressure plate in front of a door, it keeps the door open until I'm about to leave, then closes it when I'm about to go thru 20:34 DanDuncombe Place it inside 20:34 svuorela DanDuncombe: that's what I've tried 20:35 DanDuncombe I will do a screenshot 20:35 PenguinDad svuorela behind the door 20:37 DanDuncombe Like so: To go out, stand on pressure plate and when door opens, leave. To come back in, open door, stand on pressure plate for a couple of seconds, then go into your house. http://s22.postimg.org/pgcvnsgep/screenshot_43988811.png 20:37 Kacey svuorela, i made a ton of these, maybe your door is backwards... 20:39 Kacey err... nvm your plate is fast... i misunderstood the question 20:40 svuorela DanDuncombe: looks kind of like my setup where the door behaves exactly opposite 20:40 svuorela oh. if I move the door to 'the other side' of the door hole, it kind of behaves 21:41 Jordach Taoki[laptop]|aw, away nicks are bad 22:19 DanDuncombe I have Minetest 0.4.7 stable on Kubuntu, what is the command to update it to the very latest available git? 22:19 DanDuncombe VanessaE, you may know. 22:21 DanDuncombe Is anyone here? 22:22 DanDuncombe Hellooooo! 22:23 DanDuncombe Anyone there? 22:24 DanDuncombe Please, someone help! 22:24 Evergreen Idk, I don't use Kubuntu. :P 22:25 Evergreen I use ubuntu 22:28 DanDuncombe Evergreen, it uses sudo like ubuntu 22:29 DanDuncombe I need an update command of some sort. 22:30 DanDuncombe Are you there Evergreen? 22:35 DanDuncombe ANYONE? 22:36 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, download the Minetest source and read the README for instructions how to build 22:37 DanDuncombe Okay, where is the latest kubuntu source? 22:37 Evergreen Github 22:37 Evergreen :P 22:38 DanDuncombe But where on github is the thing. 22:38 Evergreen Github is the source for all linux distros 22:38 DanDuncombe I have to go now. 22:38 Evergreen You don't know where the github minetest repo is ?! 22:38 Evergreen *sigh* 22:39 DakotaHipp i got banned from a server for no reason 22:39 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, what server? 22:39 DakotaHipp Rays and my huses that took forever to build were tore down 22:40 DakotaHipp *houses 22:40 DakotaHipp i was told i break small rules but i dont, idk what to do 22:42 DakotaHipp what do i do 22:42 Evergreen Don't ask us, ask the people who run the server 22:42 DakotaHipp no reply 22:43 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, how about answering my question? 22:43 Evergreen Well, we can't really help 22:43 DakotaHipp Rays Server 22:43 Evergreen The skyblock server? 22:44 PilzAdam this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3860 ? 22:44 DakotaHipp its called Rays Server (have fun building a town!!) 22:44 DakotaHipp yes 22:44 Evergreen Oh yeah, got them mixed up 22:45 Evergreen What is you ingame name? I could try asking 22:45 DakotaHipp DakotaHipp1 22:45 Evergreen Okay, I'll try and ask ray 22:46 DakotaHipp thank you 22:46 PilzAdam apparantley someone created a fake account with my name on this server :-) 22:46 PilzAdam *apparently 22:46 DakotaHipp that sucks lol 22:47 DakotaHipp t im reallly mad right now i spent alot of money and time on them houses 22:47 Evergreen That is the one flaw in the minetest name system 22:47 PilzAdam or is there some kind of default password? 22:47 Evergreen I asked ray, and I'll see if I get a response 22:48 DakotaHipp is he online 22:48 Evergreen No 22:48 PilzAdam wtf? why can I connect with an empty password? 22:48 DakotaHipp with an emty password? 22:49 DakotaHipp nolan is the one whoo blocked me though 22:49 DakotaHipp wait this is the reply i recieved from nolan 22:50 DakotaHipp I banned you because you give me problems, and i don't like the way u act, and u break many small rules. I do not owe you anything, Houses were tore down because we do not keep buildings made by banned players 22:51 DakotaHipp ?? i dont do any of that 22:52 Evergreen I'll get the opinion of ray 22:52 Evergreen I don't like nolan very much 22:52 DakotaHipp he never really helped me he was a smart ellec he should be stripped of his privs 22:55 DakotaHipp im so mad right now! i dont know what to do 22:55 kaeza great 22:55 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, Well, he has broken many small rules, argued with me (which is no crime but made me mad), he also dis-obeyed me many times. then one day he said *This server sucks its too complicated , that got me, so i banned him 22:56 kaeza now hybriddawg is spamming on github >:/ 22:57 DakotaHipp i did not di obey him and i didnt say this server sucks i said this is to complicated bye 22:57 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, any comments on that? 22:57 PilzAdam nolan says that your complaining is the reason why you are banned 22:57 DakotaHipp because he was arguing with me becaus eim not a mod but i act like one then i said that 22:58 DakotaHipp i wasnt comlaining! i said this is to complicated 22:58 PilzAdam Im sure you can get back on the server if you stop it 22:58 DakotaHipp stop what 22:58 PilzAdam whatever nolan means by "complaining" 22:59 DakotaHipp and hes already tore down my houses and took everything in my chest 23:02 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, why do you come here and complain then? 23:03 DAkotaHipp sorry lost connection 23:03 PilzAdam DakotaHipp, why do you come here and complain then? 23:04 DAkotaHipp i didnt come here to comlain i came here for advice on what to do thank you 23:05 PilzAdam it doesnt seem that you want to rejoin the server 23:05 DAkotaHipp as i was saying he was arguing with me because i act like a mod and im not one and i said its to comlicated and left 23:05 DAkotaHipp i do want to rejoin the server 23:06 DAkotaHipp did anyone get rays word 23:06 PilzAdam how about apologising then? 23:06 Jordach Peacock, hockey, the only game that turns Canadians violet 23:06 Jordach violent* 23:07 DAkotaHipp for what Adam 23:07 DAkotaHipp and i already did in a PM 23:07 PilzAdam what was his reaction? 23:07 DAkotaHipp no reply 23:09 DAkotaHipp he didnt reply 23:11 DAkotaHipp hello 23:12 PilzAdam DAkotaHipp, to be honest, I wouldnt unban you either; I dont have the feeling that you understand what you have done wrong 23:13 DAkotaHipp can you help me understand because i dont see anything ive done wrong 23:13 jin_xi everyone just make your own servers. with hookers and whiskey 23:13 PilzAdam DAkotaHipp, I wasnt there, so I dont know; ask nolan 23:13 DAkotaHipp lol 23:14 DAkotaHipp he wont reply to me and if you werent there why you saying DAkotaHipp, to be honest, I wouldnt unban you either; I dont have the feeling that you understand what you have done wrong 23:15 PilzAdam DAkotaHipp, I just judge from your behaviour here 23:16 DAkotaHipp my behavior? 23:17 DAkotaHipp alll i want to do is get unbanned is it going to happen or not 23:17 Uberi well you need to talk to the people who can actually do that 23:17 Exio4 > getting unbanned 23:17 Exio4 > avoiding a ban 23:17 DAkotaHipp wich would be nolan who wont reply to me 23:17 Exio4 you should talk in PM with an OP 23:18 DAkotaHipp speak of the devil 23:18 PilzAdam and there he is 23:18 Uberi well, that's coincidental 23:18 PilzAdam Uberi, actually that was me on the server telling nolan_ how to join IRC :-) 23:19 DAkotaHipp oh i was about to say thats wierd 23:19 Uberi hahaha, figures :P 23:19 DAkotaHipp Nolan why am i banned 23:19 nolan_ You know why 23:20 DAkotaHipp im sorry but i dont 23:20 Uberi apparently he doesn't 23:20 nolan_ He's broken many rules 23:20 nolan_ disobeyed me 23:20 DAkotaHipp how? 23:20 nolan_ saying unneeded comments 23:20 nolan_ may i need say more he has done? 23:20 DAkotaHipp like what name one 23:20 DAkotaHipp yes please 23:20 nolan_ Do not lave items laying around 23:21 Exio4 whatever, #minetest-drama 2013 23:21 DAkotaHipp i dont! 23:21 nolan_ i found over 200 itmes laying in stacks of (1) right inside your home 23:21 DAkotaHipp i didnt put them there 23:21 nolan_ Then who did? 23:21 kaeza Exio4, better than quiet channel :D 23:21 PilzAdam Exio4, introduced by PilzAdam! :D 23:21 nolan_ also saying *This server is so complicated i quit and more* 23:21 DAkotaHipp thats why i was sayin ray needs to clear objects and idk nolan 23:22 Exio4 quiet channel > drama channel 23:22 Exio4 inb4 PilzAdam quiets me 23:22 DAkotaHipp yes because you were arguing with me 23:22 nolan_ Im the moderator 23:22 DAkotaHipp and 23:22 DAkotaHipp ? 23:22 kaeza Exio4, "Intrusos en el Minetest", con Sam Rial :P 23:22 nolan_ hold on let me state the rule 23:22 Exio4 lol kaeza? 23:22 PilzAdam DAkotaHipp, the moderator on a server is always right 23:22 Exio4 seems legit 23:22 DAkotaHipp you aint gonna treat me like that moderator or not 23:22 Exio4 DAkotaHipp: it is 'his server, his rules' 23:22 Uberi uh, yes he is 23:22 Exio4 deal with it 23:23 DAkotaHipp i know Adam 23:23 Exio4 you don't like those? play in other server 23:23 Exio4 that is simple 23:23 DAkotaHipp im not like yall i dont let people walk all over me 23:23 PilzAdam the only one over the moderators is the host 23:23 PilzAdam and above everything else is the almighty PilzAdam 23:23 PilzAdam ;-) 23:23 DAkotaHipp hahah 23:24 * Exio4 takeovers PilzAdam's place and renames minetest to exiotest 23:24 DAkotaHipp Nolan im sorry for what "i did" 23:24 PilzAdam Exio4, pls name the default character Fiola 23:24 Uberi DAkotaHipp: the fact of the matter is, when you join a server, you agree to be subject to that server's whims 23:24 DAkotaHipp i know 23:25 nolan_ Rule: Do not argue with a moderator or admin, its not a crime, but it will make them lose patience with u and will make them want to ban or punish u more 23:25 DAkotaHipp i didnt break any rules except for arguing 23:25 nolan_ Yes u did 23:25 DAkotaHipp like what 23:25 Exio4 . 23:25 nolan_ u broke 3 23:25 nolan_ Dont argue 23:25 PilzAdam and we are at the beginning again... 23:25 nolan_ dont leave items around 23:25 DAkotaHipp i didnt put them objects there but i did build mt house over them yes 23:25 nolan_ and dont keep asking to be a mod 23:26 Exio4 PilzAdam: 10: print 'drama'; goto 10 23:26 DAkotaHipp i wasnt asking i was staing that i wanted to be one 23:26 nolan_ u asked me multiple times 23:26 DAkotaHipp no i didnt im 23:26 Exio4 can you move this to a query? 23:26 DAkotaHipp im done arguin with you 23:27 DAkotaHipp im sorry for breaking 3 rules 23:27 nolan_ alright dude, since u refuse to admit u did anything wrong you are not getting unbanned, because if i do, this wil probably be how u act in rays 23:27 DAkotaHipp 1 of wich wasnt me 23:27 nolan_ Done 23:27 DAkotaHipp um i did admit it read 23:27 nolan_ -_- You are not getting unbanned, you may as well just stop complaining and find another server 23:28 PilzAdam you say it but you dont mean it 23:28 DAkotaHipp i do mean it Adam 23:28 DAkotaHipp just give me one more chance to prove myself 23:28 PilzAdam 1 of wich wasnt me 23:28 nolan_ I gave you chances before you even were banned 23:28 DAkotaHipp well i didnt know that 23:29 nolan_ Thats not my problem 23:29 DAkotaHipp adam yes im not admiting to that one because it really wasnt me 23:29 nolan_ Look im done here, you can argue all you want, but unban is not happening 23:29 Exio4 "i only broke 2 rules! not 3!" 23:29 DAkotaHipp just let me prove myself 23:29 Exio4 how funny 23:29 DAkotaHipp there you go 23:29 nolan_ dude seriously even after i tell u, you still continue 23:29 * Exio4 setups a nuke inside DAkotaHipp's house and runs 23:30 PilzAdam Exio4, his house is already destroyed by the moderators 23:30 Exio4 :( 23:30 DAkotaHipp if i do 23:30 nolan_ Baned players homes are not kept 23:30 nolan_ Banned* 23:31 Exio4 nolan_: you'll end better ignoring him, he will bother you til you say fuck you or something similar 23:31 Exio4 but saying that would be 'against the rules' so let him be annoying and he will leave 23:31 Exio4 :D 23:31 nolan_ Nah he will still go on 23:31 nolan_ no matter what 23:31 Exio4 trust me, that is how irc works ^^ 23:32 Dakota i got disconnected sorry what 23:32 PilzAdam nolan_, I will simply kickban him if you ignore him and he starts a monologue 23:32 Guest8152 im dakota 23:32 nolan_ Okay PilzAdam, and why don't you stay and play rays for awhile :) 23:32 Guest8152 why doest it say guest 23:33 PilzAdam nolan_, I dont really play on any servers 23:33 Uberi Guest8152: you need to identify or something like that 23:33 Guest8152 please let me prove myself dude one time 23:33 PilzAdam nolan_, but the server is pretty good, it runs without major lags and it has Simple Mobs installed, which is quite impressive 23:33 Exio4 "if it has my mob, i play!" 23:33 Exio4 -- PilzAdam 23:34 Exio4 s/mob/mod/ 23:34 PilzAdam Guest8152, the discussion is over 23:34 Uberi both work 23:34 nolan_ Well, when there is like 5 - 15 players on, it lags for 30 seconds or so but anything u did during the lag usually saves, sometimes peices that u did during lag will dissapear 23:34 PilzAdam Exio4, I have too many mods for that to happen :-) 23:34 nolan_ I wish u would have stayed to at least see my castle 23:34 PilzAdam maybe I come back later 23:35 nolan_ But hey i might post screenshots if i figure out how to do it with Jodach's help 23:35 nolan_ My castle is pretty big, used like 100,000 blocks on it so far 23:35 Exio4 f12 23:35 Exio4 :P 23:36 nolan_ Yea i know how to do it, but to post it on the forums.. 23:36 PilzAdam nolan_, http://mg.viewskew.com/ upload it here, and then simply link it in the [img] tags 23:36 nolan_ I have a page saved of Jordach telling osmebody how to 23:36 nolan_ somebody* 23:36 Jordach nolan_, huh 23:37 PilzAdam somepony* 23:37 Jordach nolan_, you can get my name right by typing Jo then the two arrows 23:38 nolan_ Wow 23:38 Dakota3 i keep disconnecting 23:39 Dakota3 Does anyone use Ubuntu im downloading it right now 23:39 Exio4 i can use a chainsaw, does that count? :) 23:39 Dakota3 ? 23:40 PilzAdam Dakota3, you do know that Unity sends your private data to amazon? 23:40 Dakota3 really? 23:41 Dakota3 thats creepy 23:41 PilzAdam use Kubuntu, it has KDE as DE, which doesnt do stuff like that 23:41 Exio4 -1- Risposta CTCP da Dakota3: VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/28.0.1500.95 Safari/537.36 23:41 Dakota3 okay ill look into it 23:41 Exio4 tl;dr he uses google chrome 23:41 Exio4 it is sending his info to google 23:41 Dakota3 i thought an irc channel was for chatting in the servers lol 23:42 Dakota3 how do you know i use google chrome? 23:42 PilzAdam Exio4, "Risposta" is spanish or something? 23:42 PilzAdam Dakota3, webchat writes it as a response to CTCP VERSION 23:42 Uberi or just turn off the very first setting in the Unity privacy options 23:42 nolan_ What am i using :) 23:43 Exio4 PilzAdam: italian 23:43 Dakota3 i was like woah thats creepy 23:43 Exio4 Respuesta CTCP de Dakota3 would be spanish 23:43 PilzAdam nolan_, chrome too 23:43 PilzAdam which kinda sucks 23:43 nolan_ lol 23:43 PilzAdam google is evil 23:44 Dakota3 what browser should i use 23:44 Dakota3 firefox 23:44 Evergreen I use ubuntu 23:44 PilzAdam ^ 23:44 Exio4 firefox, or at least, chromium with disabled shit 23:44 Uberi whichever one works best for you, Dakota3 23:44 PilzAdam lynx 23:45 Evergreen I usually use chrome, which is a crap ton better than internet explorer 23:45 Uberi LED wired into the ethernet cable 23:45 Uberi and a pushbutton switch 23:45 nolan_ Why is google chrome evil? 23:45 Uberi nolan_: RLZ identifiers! 23:45 Exio4 it sends your private info to google 23:45 Exio4 => it is evil 23:45 Exio4 paranoic people for the win! 23:45 nolan_ i dont care lol 23:45 nolan_ let them know about me 23:46 Uberi I use it anyways because it's got software WebGL support 23:46 nolan_ Its fast, for me 23:46 nolan_ besides this computer is so crappy and 23:47 nolan_ the comp im using i could give a crap less about security it sucks 23:47 nolan_ i use a different computer for security :) 23:48 Dakota5 why do i keep getting disconnected 23:49 nolan_ why are you making so many accounts 23:49 Dakota5 well thank yall i gtg 23:49 Dakota5 nolan because i keep getting disconnected then the one i was using wont work 23:50 Dakota5 it says not avaliable so i make a new one 23:50 nolan_ hey sokomine u there? 23:50 Dakota5 nolan do you use windows 7? 23:51 nolan_ its windows something i beleive its 7 or 8 23:52 Dakota5 cool 23:53 Dakota5 i have 7 but im downloading ubuntu and probably gonna switch to kubuntu becaus eof what adam said 23:56 Jordach Dakota5, just because someone says something is awesome, doesnt mean you will possibly make a very bad error and possibly delete all your files when installing new operating systems 23:56 Dakota5 i know i already deleted all my files 23:56 nolan_ ^_^ 23:56 Dakota5 i dont think im ever going to play minetest other than ounce a week now 23:57 * NekoGloopMkII bites Jordach 23:57 Jordach that's like going to a bar and saying i want a girly drink just because all the women are drinking it 23:57 Jordach make your own choices based from experience 23:57 Jordach and this is why i'm using windows; because i can. 23:58 nolan_ windows rocks 23:58 Jordach only when things dont crash 23:58 NekoGloopMkII Don't throw rocks at windows 23:58 nolan_ hey jordach why could i never connect to your server? 23:58 Jordach nolan_, it's gone 23:58 Jordach eg, x_x 23:58 nolan_ awww man 23:58 Dakota5 this is my own choice nobody told me to get it 23:59 nolan_ let me rephrase this 23:59 nolan_ i have 7 but im downloading ubuntu and probably gonna switch to kubuntu becaus eof what adam said ~Dakota 23:59 nolan_ Your basing something off what adam said 23:59 Jordach two things to note with using a linux distro (eg, a kernel + gui's and stuff); google and asking on forums related to the linux distro