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00:00 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4877 The mod page
00:00 sokomine a travelnet-box. they look like an old german telephone-booth and allow you to teleport to a list of targets
00:01 sea-theorem Is there any way to calculate how far below the surface I am?
00:01 sea-theorem Is there even a notion of 'surface'?
00:01 VanessaE actually american telephone booths used to look similar, too
00:01 sokomine press f5
00:01 DanDuncombe Yes, press f5
00:02 sokomine second coordinate is depth/height
00:02 DanDuncombe And is the 'y' value
00:02 sokomine 0 may be considered the surface. unless there's a hill or mountain there :-)
00:03 sea-theorem Hmm, -7.5, okay, this doesn't help though. What's the scale?
00:03 sea-theorem How many blocks per unit in the coordinates?
00:04 Exio4 1
00:04 sea-theorem Then I should be pretty near to the surface! I dig upwards!
00:04 DanDuncombe so -7.5 means your are 7.5 nodes below sea level
00:05 DanDuncombe Soyou are probably more like 30 nodes below ground.
00:05 sea-theorem Ah, and my final pick is about to give out, I ran out of torches ages ago. I'm going to die. I'm buried alive.
00:06 Exio4 DanDuncombe: uhmm
00:07 sea-theorem Woohoo, the surface! I'm alive! and it's night-time outside, fascinating.
00:08 Exio4 haha
00:16 sea-theorem I'm impressed by the scale of the things here. There's a mountain or something that's more than 100 units wide
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00:28 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_149694384.png
00:28 sea-theorem The game seems to have generated here what looks very much like a fjord
00:31 bas080 dwFirst thing i made is a password secured door with luacontroller, lcd screen and keyboard
00:31 bas080 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_149898461.png
00:32 sokomine you might also use my shared locked doors from my locks mod. they support passwords :-) (but i suppose doing it with a luacontroller was more fun)
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00:34 bas080 sokomine, it was and now we all have a new digiline device. Just have to get it pulled to digilines, that might take a while.
00:35 sokomine ah, fine. have to look into digiline eventually. that mod does sound very intresting. normal mesecons is too low-level for me (usually don't want to build with it)
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00:42 Arkmabat Could I use the latter code to make a magic beanstalk?
00:42 Arkmabat Ladder I mean
00:44 Arkmabat I think it would be cool to have magic beans that grow a beanstalk, sort of like a nether portal but into a cloud world
00:46 Kacey that would be...
00:46 bas080 https://github.com/bas080/minetest-mod-digilines
00:47 bas080 Arkmabat, have you watched a certain movie recently?
00:47 Arkmabat I work at a daycare...
00:48 Arkmabat :D
00:49 Arkmabat Could I mod a ladder to look like a beanstalk
00:51 bas080 yes
00:51 bas080 you can Arkmabat
00:52 bas080 I'm sure your creative having to handle all those children
00:53 Arkmabat No no no.jack and the beanstalk is a classic
00:55 sea-theorem sokomine: So, I've built a castle in the middle of a fjord surrounded by mountains and forests. Now what? It would be nice to have some animals or things running around, the world doesn't seem to change unless I ask it to
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01:30 JesseH Can someone point me in the direction of a good server? :-)
01:30 VanessaE sure, play on mine :D
01:30 Pentium44 hehe
01:30 Pentium44 haha
01:30 JesseH Pentium44, sup
01:31 Pentium44 JesseH Mine
01:31 Pentium44 play on mine :p
01:31 JesseH You have one?
01:31 Pentium44 yes
01:31 Pentium44 just to lazy to host it lol
01:31 JesseH Oh sick I can test meh mods on your server now >:)
01:31 JesseH host foo
01:31 VanessaE JesseH: vanessae.mine.bz:30000 (you need a git build no older than July 20)
01:31 Pentium44 hehe
01:31 JesseH so much work D:
01:32 bas080 JesseH, VanessaE's server is a very extensive one. You can do allot especially because it's creative
01:32 JesseH VanessaE, You got mods and such?
01:32 JesseH Ah I see
01:32 bas080 Many mod!
01:32 JesseH Let me build and ill be on in a minute
01:32 VanessaE do I have mods.
01:32 VanessaE hoo boy
01:33 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4057
01:33 VanessaE see for yourself ;)
01:33 Pentium44 lol
01:33 Pentium44 I have played on Vanessa's Server
01:33 Pentium44 holy damn
01:34 Pentium44 talk about a long first load :D
01:34 JesseH better than minecraft would you say? :P
01:34 JesseH oh nvm :P
01:34 JesseH i have slow internet
01:34 Pentium44 Jesseh speed?
01:34 Pentium44 I can tell you about how long it would take
01:35 Pentium44 it takes about 5 minutes on my speed
01:35 Pentium44 160 kbps
01:35 bas080 JesseH, good question! Yes it's better!
01:35 Pentium44 haha YES
01:36 JesseH i get like 80kbs
01:36 bas080 I haven't been on servers for a while. Checking out VanessaE's server
01:36 bas080 media...
01:37 JesseH I keep trying to get into minetest but it is normally not a very enjoyable experience.
01:37 JesseH I would complain about it but then the trolls would be unleashed :P
01:37 JesseH "ITS BETTER THAN MINECRAFT C++ YES JAVA BOO"
01:38 JesseH "YOU CAN MOD IT WITH Lua AS A MATTER OF FACT I JUST LEARNDED HTML AND I WANTS TO MOD AND Lua IS COOL
01:38 * JesseH might have just offended someone. Sorry
01:38 Pentium44 YOU OFFENDED ME
01:38 Pentium44 jk jk
01:38 bas080 JesseH, do you want to mod?
01:39 Pentium44 JesseH can mod
01:39 Pentium44 he is a lua type person
01:39 bas080 you can complain but you can also change the things that you complain about. It's harder but in the end satisfactory
01:39 JesseH bas080, That is a very good point
01:40 JesseH Honestly though, my only complaints was that on the couple servers I tried I was lagging, and it was just, ... hmm not sure how to explain
01:40 JesseH It gave me that "ouch this game is so laggy" feeling
01:40 bas080 just saying, if you really like games... why not
01:40 bas080 yeah
01:40 bas080 i get your point... in that case you should consult your ISP :P
01:41 bas080 or home network
01:41 bas080 or both!
01:41 JesseH hmm, perhaps I should call and ask why we pay 80 dollars a month and get shit internet :P
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01:42 bas080 JesseH, Maybe it can help
01:43 bas080 But i would first make sure the home network is as best as can be before you start pointing the finger
01:43 PilzAdam bye
01:46 JesseH o/
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02:15 sokomine sea-theorem: install mobf and disable the hostile animals :-)
02:15 sokomine then you can have sheep, deer, cows, ostrichs, fishes, chickens, seagulls etc. roam around your world
02:16 sokomine you can even catch them with a lasso and place them where you want to have them
02:16 sokomine and breeding is possible as well. it's a very nice mod for singleplayer
02:19 sokomine jesseh: which country/continent do you live in? perhaps it will help if you pick a server not on the other side of the world
02:21 sea-theorem sokomine: What I'd like is an animal that alters the world
02:21 sea-theorem Say, a sheep that digs and builds things, and so on
02:21 sea-theorem Anyway, I'm looking into the rules of various things that I've found. Water is counter-intuitive
02:22 sokomine hmm. sheep are not known for altering the world. except through overgrazing in the long term
02:23 sokomine perhaps you'd like my random_buildings mod. that has lumberjacks that spawn with their houses. they don't alter the world either - they just have their houses, stand there and wait for you to trade wood
02:24 sokomine there are also several naturre-related mods that alter the world to some degree, depending on what you want
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02:25 sokomine there's 4seasons (turns the world into autum, with leaves and grass becomming more colorful, and then winter, and then spring and summer); or the bees and candles mod that adds beehives
02:25 sokomine or, another direction: metor impacts, landslides, vulcanoes
02:26 sokomine though you probably won't want them in your building world
02:26 sokomine farming and farming_plus are also nice to have
02:26 sea-theorem I'm experimenting with building a computer now, that seems to be the fashionable thing to do in mine* games.
02:27 sokomine ah, mesecons. yes, that's popular as well
02:27 sokomine carts also exists
02:27 sea-theorem I'm using lava and bricks
02:27 sea-theorem I suspect that the lava is turing universal
02:28 sea-theorem 'cobblestone' bricks, specifically
02:28 sokomine lava :-( don't like that much
02:28 sea-theorem I could try water, but it acts in such a strange, counter-intuitive way
02:29 sea-theorem I tried to drain an ocean and ended up filling a cave with a trickle of water, it was bizarre
02:32 sea-theorem I have a nand gate! :3
02:36 sea-theorem Is there any way to make lava flow /uphill/ by any chance?
02:40 hdastwb pipeworks?
02:45 VanessaE pipeworks should be able to move lava, as nodes/items via nodebreakers/deployers
02:45 VanessaE never tried it though
02:45 VanessaE bbl
02:47 hdastwb I read water into that question for some reason…
02:57 sea-theorem minetest is horrible at liquids, they don't act like liquids at all
02:58 sea-theorem The lava stops flowing and just sits there with a slanted surface. Water does the same thing
02:58 sokomine hm, that's something one might expect to hear from a player that calls himshelf sea-theorem :-)
02:58 sokomine you can change the behaviour of some liquits from finite to non finite, but i havn't experimented with it yet
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04:29 jojoa1997 Yo
04:31 Pentium44 Yo yo
04:38 sokomine anyone there?
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04:42 jojoa1997 I am
04:42 jojoa1997 Test
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05:04 PenguinDad Hi meldrian.
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05:05 meldrian hellow
05:11 Peacock lets see griefers get past this [img]http://s12.postimg.org/7tlt8nnwd/screenshot_149751802.jpg[/img]
05:11 Peacock oups lol
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05:12 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
05:12 OldCoder VanessaE, PM
05:13 Peacock AM actually on east coast :p
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05:27 khonkhortisan what's that pointy thing?
05:28 Peacock the spindly pointy thing?
05:29 Peacock should be a base though it's only got a shaft/ladder right now
05:29 khonkhortisan looks like it belongs in space
05:29 Peacock does kinda look like a cylon basestar lol
05:30 khonkhortisan yeah
05:30 Peacock it was that or a squircle lol
05:39 OldCoder Peacock, true but context matters
05:39 OldCoder Pentium44, hey
05:39 * OldCoder is asleep Zzz
05:39 OldCoder Oh and tell Pilzadam this:
05:39 OldCoder
05:39 OldCoder ^ paragraph separator :P
05:43 Pentium44 hehe
05:43 Pentium44 OldCoder hi
05:49 OldCoder
05:53 Peacock tell him what? lol
05:54 Peacock anyways, i read the 'slots' thread in general, and i thought, "does this guy ever get layed?" :p
05:55 Peacock momma always said, if you ain't got anything nice to say...:-)
06:03 leo_rockway https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6657 <--- this thread made me laugh.
06:04 leo_rockway I'm pretty sure the guy doesn't know what he did
06:04 Peacock i cant tell of the OP is being serious in his replies lol
06:06 leo_rockway somebody linked him to some sort of guide in another thread. I think the guide uses Hamachi or something similar...
06:06 leo_rockway I'm pretty sure he's just very confused and he actually thinks localhost is his public IP.
06:07 Peacock he wouldn't be the first lol
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06:10 Peacock i thought of a way of dealing with griefers: i dl'ed a bunch of hi-freq sounds, played to the griefer directly, on gain=15 hehe
06:11 Peacock it can reduce a grown man to tears lol
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06:12 leo_rockway I didn't think I'd have to deal with griefers on my obscure server... but apparently a server where no more than a person connects at a time still attracts idiots.
06:12 leo_rockway I disabled default interact.
06:13 Peacock i dont like doing that because then you have to aprove everyone
06:13 Peacock and the griefers still grief afterwards lol
06:13 Peacock but if you blow their eardrums/speakers, i doubt they'd come back as Guest ####
06:14 leo_rockway nobody has really asked interact since. I'm not very popular o.o
06:14 leo_rockway it's supposed to be mostly Spanish speaking people, but there are like 3 or 4 players.
06:14 Peacock i get a lot of spanish/portuguese too
06:14 Peacock i can only sortof understand but i can't answer them
06:15 leo_rockway perhaps if I make it show up in the list of public servers... but this server really can't scale much more
06:15 leo_rockway so if 25 people decided to join, it would collapse
06:15 Peacock how many mods?
06:15 leo_rockway many o.o
06:15 Peacock im on public and i get max 6 people
06:15 Peacock and of those 6, 2 will get banned for fucking around lol
06:16 leo_rockway I have like 20 mods. IDK how many still apply, though. I hadn't been updating the server in months and I finally did that a few days ago...
06:16 leo_rockway but some of those mods are now in main, like farming.
06:16 Peacock thats actually not so bad
06:16 Peacock i know people, black jesus they get alot of shit running lol
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06:17 Peacock course we got heatwaves here so i gotta keep the load reasonable on the CPUs
06:18 Peacock plus i dont got money coming out of my ass for RAM and parts
06:19 leo_rockway this server is my friend's. He does get free parts mostly. His dad works for companies that sometimes get rid of hardware.
06:19 Peacock the parts must be 1 or 2 years old though?
06:22 leo_rockway yes
06:22 leo_rockway it's good enough for what we use it for o.o
06:23 Peacock yeah i mean some people run servers off laptops
06:23 leo_rockway I have MT, he has MC. We have XMPP, 3 low traffic blogs, etherpad, ethercalc, owncloud, friendica, pump.io, status.net...
06:23 leo_rockway pretty much everything except email, because it's dynamic IP.
06:24 Peacock jesus lol
06:25 Peacock i try to stick to 1 server per box, regardless of what kind
06:25 Pentium44 damn :p
06:25 Pentium44 i thought I was bad when it comes to running a lot of stuff
06:26 leo_rockway Pentium44: none of it has a lot of traffic, though. It's mostly just a group of 3 people.
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06:34 Peacock rba and taoki, time to get happy hour started :D
06:34 RealBadAngel hi
06:35 Peacock howdy
06:35 RealBadAngel what happy hour?
06:35 Peacock lol just kidding, way past hours here
06:38 Pentium44 ahh
06:39 Pentium44 leo_rockway I see
06:39 Pentium44 I normally host like 4 minetest servers and put a load like hell on processors :0
06:39 Pentium44 ;)
06:42 Peacock why do people use chests on creative servers? *memeface*
06:43 Peacock its not like anyone has any reason to steal their shit lol
06:48 RealBadAngel there are folks that play survival on such servers
06:48 RealBadAngel they just dont use free stuff option
06:49 Peacock even without a craft grid?
06:49 Peacock (or crafts for that matter)
06:50 RealBadAngel ? hows crafting related to creative?
06:51 Peacock well if they dont use the free stuff, they must be crafting?
06:51 RealBadAngel ofc
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07:03 GNADev|zRokh aye doods <:)
07:03 GNADev|zRokh how ya guys been?
07:04 Peacock are you one of the hookers we ordered?
07:04 Peacock take off your top
07:04 GNADev|zRokh shut up or i will ask for a kick!
07:04 GNADev|zRokh it is NOT funny!
07:04 GNADev|zRokh At all
07:04 Peacock lol
07:05 Peacock go 'head im off to bed :p
07:05 GNADev|zRokh no srsly dood, grow up
07:05 GNADev|zRokh k bye
07:06 Peacock lighten up or gtfo the internet :p
07:06 GNADev|zRokh aye VanessaE
07:06 GNADev|zRokh .-.
07:06 GNADev|zRokh how ya been
07:08 GNADev|zRokh anybody?
07:10 GNADev|zRokh hi MinetestBot
07:10 MinetestBot sup GNADev|zRokh
07:10 GNADev|zRokh nuff'n much... how about you, MinetestBot?
07:10 GNADev|zRokh .-.
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07:15 GNADev|zRokh aye khor
07:15 GNADev|zRokh how ya been
07:15 GNADev|zRokh biggums .-.
07:17 khor it's a joke?
07:20 GNADev|zRokh nah dood!
07:20 GNADev|zRokh dunz ya know what biggums is?
07:20 GNADev|zRokh biggums == friend
07:20 GNADev|zRokh dood == dude
07:20 GNADev|zRokh aye == hey
07:21 GNADev|zRokh i speak in Bacca
07:21 GNADev|zRokh .-.
07:21 GNADev|zRokh Exio4
07:21 GNADev|zRokh are you a boy or a girkl .-.
07:21 GNADev|zRokh girl*
07:22 GNADev|zRokh i bet your a boy .-.
07:22 GNADev|zRokh i need to know because idk what to put you as on the forum :D
07:22 GNADev|zRokh "... Exio4, when he..." thats what i will have for now :D
07:26 GNADev|zRokh khor did you see what i wrote?
07:30 khor yes, I'm a boy!
07:31 khor I'm fine
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07:39 GNADev|zRokh aye dood, ya wanna have a Fast-Code Competition?
07:39 GNADev|zRokh .-.
07:39 GNADev|zRokh khor
07:39 GNADev|zRokh jin_xi
07:40 GNADev|zRokh ya wanna join?
07:43 GNADev|zRokh khor and jin_xi
07:43 GNADev|zRokh ya wanna join?
07:43 GNADev|zRokh http://gnadev.hj.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=2&amp;sid=c38d2ae8ccb7f09ed7b1ffb2892f9600
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08:06 GNADev|zRokh hi nalkri
08:06 GNADev|zRokh you wanna do a fast-code competition?
08:06 nalkri Good morning comrade GNADev|zRokh
08:06 nalkri I don't know, what would be the terms of such a duel?
08:07 GNADev|zRokh http://gnadev.hj.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=2&amp;sid=c38d2ae8ccb7f09ed7b1ffb2892f9600
08:07 GNADev|zRokh one
08:07 GNADev|zRokh step
08:07 GNADev|zRokh ahead
08:07 nalkri That's the metaterms :p
08:07 nalkri That's the terms for defining valid terms for the contest
08:07 nalkri And to be honest, I need coffee before I touch code
08:08 GNADev|zRokh ok dood :D
08:08 GNADev|zRokh but what if we do something simple?
08:08 GNADev|zRokh .-.
08:08 nalkri I'm not a hacker mate
08:08 GNADev|zRokh :D
08:08 nalkri I'm at best a dilitante
08:09 GNADev|zRokh define: dilitante
08:09 nalkri And I really do need coffee, BRB
08:09 GNADev|zRokh k dood :D
08:09 nalkri Someone who dips into a field(or many fields)
08:09 nalkri But never gets real expertise
08:10 GNADev|zRokh oh ok
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08:35 PenguinDad GNADev|zRokh: maybe proller is interested.
08:36 GNADev|zRokh proller
08:36 GNADev|zRokh where are you?
08:36 GNADev|zRokh .-.
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08:42 GNADev|zRokh oh forget it...gonna play some MC :D
08:42 GNADev|zRokh plz dunz tell MT that im having an affair...
08:42 GNADev|zRokh o.o
08:42 GNADev|zRokh k bye
08:43 proller moo
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08:44 reactor Hey.
08:44 reactor Has anyone built minetest for system-side installation?
08:45 reactor I think it's broken.
08:45 Calinou I never do
08:46 reactor Despite -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0, it builds with sharedir and other things as ".."
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08:49 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Sweet Child O' Mine Day! :-D
08:49 reactor ?
08:50 reactor Mowing.
08:51 JamesTait daysoftheyear.com has Hot Dog Day, which I thought was rubbish, so I trawled the archives and apparently Guns 'n' Roses launched Sweet Child O' Mine on this day in 1988.
08:51 reactor Oh.
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09:05 JamesTait reactor, this has been debated to death elsewhere, so take it with a pinch of salt.
09:06 JamesTait reactor, I thought since it's on the internet it must be true. Right? ;)
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09:07 reactor Which one?
09:09 Calinou "I thought since it's on the internet it must be true." if only
09:09 reactor You confuse the hell out of me.
09:10 Calinou we're all linux users here
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09:12 RealBadAngel tell that to nekogloop ;)
09:12 john_minetest Hello everypony!
09:12 Zeg9 Hello !
09:13 Calinou hi
09:14 * john_minetest puts Tootsie Flute on Calinou's head
09:14 reactor Are all depends required for linking, or just for runtime?
09:14 * Calinou throws Tootsie Flute on reactor's head
09:15 * reactor sparks
09:15 reactor Error rading /dev/ra1a: drive offline.
09:15 john_minetest reactor: Depends are only required for linking on windows systems. To run you need dlls though.
09:15 reactor s/rad/read/
09:16 reactor Not Windows.
09:16 john_minetest I am not sure how it is on linux.
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09:16 reactor Mk.
09:16 MasterBot hello
09:16 john_minetest Better have them installed, shared libs might be needed.
09:16 john_minetest Hello markv.
09:16 reactor yes, but are these runtime or build depends?
09:17 MasterBot I am going to finish the hotel i started as soon as i've scanned in the plans
09:17 MasterBot Anyone with me?
09:17 reactor Hotel Polissya, Pripyat?
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09:18 reactor I've done its external view a long ago, in Minecraft.
09:19 reactor By the way. Is worldedit functional enough now?
09:19 MasterBot Yep
09:19 * john_minetest is in 3 IRC networks on 4 channels.
09:20 john_minetest reactor: Yes, worldedit has a lot of functions AND it is a lot faster now.
09:20 Calinou 6 networks 41 channels
09:20 reactor Good.
09:20 Zeg9 How can one upload to "modpictures" (for mmdb)?
09:20 reactor john_minetest: so, can it be used for in-game map development now?
09:21 Calinou it's more functional than BSD
09:21 * Calinou runs
09:21 john_minetest reactor: you mean landscaping? deleting mountains, flatten world?
09:21 * reactor sticks a fork into Calinou's head
09:21 reactor john_minetest: at least drawing buildings efficiently
09:21 reactor john_minetest: I haven't seen landscaping in Minecraft's WE .
09:22 reactor john_minetest: I wonder what can do the landscaping, though.
09:22 reactor Also, I don't remember who wrote the script for converting minecraft maps into schemes.
09:22 john_minetest reactor: If you build a building, you can safe it as worldedit file.
09:22 reactor One of the coordinates is reversed.
09:22 reactor good
09:22 john_minetest I think the script was by sfan5 or thexyz.
09:23 reactor Is there a workaround for the problem?
09:23 john_minetest I never heard of coordinates in worldedit being reversed...
09:23 reactor not worledit
09:24 reactor the filter for mcedit that makes worledit schemes
09:25 john_minetest It should work properly. I have seen screenshots.
09:26 reactor Even on the screenshot.
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09:26 GNADev|zRokh aye doods
09:26 GNADev|zRokh im back
09:26 reactor Notice the building before the converting, and after pasting it.
09:26 GNADev|zRokh 1.6.2 is downloading...
09:26 Calinou we know you're ragnar, GNADev|zRokh
09:26 reactor Has someone cracked 1.6.2 yet?
09:27 Calinou >minecraft >not being h4xored
09:27 reactor s/someone/anyone/
09:27 john_minetest Hi ragnar.
09:27 GNADev|zRokh i know you know that
09:27 GNADev|zRokh hi yeah!
09:28 GNADev|zRokh reactor, Minecraft 1.6.2
09:28 john_minetest Calinou: Everybody knows that GNADev|zRokh is ragnar and that MasterBot is markveidemanis.
09:28 reactor GNADev|zRokh: I know, I know.
09:28 reactor Has anyone cracked it?
09:28 GNADev|zRokh what do you mean?
09:28 GNADev|zRokh i have an account
09:28 GNADev|zRokh .-.
09:28 GNADev|zRokh i mean my FRIEND has an account :D
09:28 john_minetest reactor: We won't give any informations how to crack games or if these are cracked yet.
09:29 reactor Aight.
09:29 john_minetest Also this is a minetest channel and not a minecraft channel
09:29 GNADev|zRokh he started it, kinda...
09:29 Calinou john_minetest: everypony*
09:29 john_minetest Ask on #minecraft if you have questions about it.
09:29 GNADev|zRokh but sorry, blame it on me!
09:29 Calinou lol asking in #minecraft about that
09:29 GNADev|zRokh <3
09:29 GNADev|zRokh OMG
09:29 GNADev|zRokh 1.6.2 is done
09:29 GNADev|zRokh wait...
09:29 GNADev|zRokh reactor, PM?
09:29 john_minetest Calinou: Asking here about cracked minecraft is worse than asking it on the #minecraft channel...
09:30 reactor GNADev|zRokh: that's enough for me to know, thank you.
09:31 GNADev|zRokh bye biggums :D
09:31 GNADev|zRokh see ya today OR in a week :D
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09:40 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:40 Calinou hi
09:41 reactor hell.o
09:41 MasterBot Hello PilzAdam!
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09:59 RealBadAngel hi
10:02 john_minetest hi
10:11 PilzAdam john_minetest, I got KSP running on Linux :D
10:11 Calinou isn't it native?
10:11 PilzAdam yes
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10:12 Calinou then it's easy
10:12 Calinou also got dota 2 working under linux, it's just a matter of "install" and "run" :p
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10:34 MasterBot I got minetest running on linux
10:36 MasterBot Anyone here in England who saw the storm?
10:37 nalkri Not I
10:37 nalkri More's the pity, I could do with some rain
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10:57 Zeg9 damn PLC
10:59 john_minetest PilzAdam: KSP is cool. I think it is best to play the demo FIRST so you can see what types of parts are the best and then buy the full version and start to play there.
10:59 john_minetest I was on the mun before the one with the full version even orbited.
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11:00 john_minetest PilzAdam: Did you try it out yet?
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11:01 pandaro hi RealBadAngel
11:01 pandaro i have a little question about facedir
11:01 pandaro http://pastebin.com/gwXi34fy
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11:01 reactor CUSTOM_SHAREDIR doesn't work.
11:02 reactor Anyone interested in becoming a NetBSD package maintainer? Because I think it's beyond my knowledge to handle it.
11:02 RealBadAngel pandaro, later, im leaving off to work now
11:02 RealBadAngel i will be back in 9 hours
11:02 pandaro no problem
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11:19 VanessaE good morning all
11:20 Calinou hi
11:20 PilzAdam john_minetest, I dont plan to buy it
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11:21 PilzAdam I just returned from a perfect orbit at 1000km
11:21 john_minetest PilzAdam: The demo has so many parts and so much you can do, full version has nice features though.
11:22 john_minetest I'll buy the full version today.
11:22 john_minetest My normal orbits are 200-300 km
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11:27 john_minetest PilzAdam: A nice video on how to fly rockets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHyQjdqLO48
11:28 PilzAdam I already watched another one
11:28 PilzAdam currently I watch one that explains how to get on the mon
11:38 Calinou john_minetest: PilzAdam: wolfgame? :p
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11:49 PenguinDad When does thexyz come back?
11:49 Calinou when half life 3 is released, PenguinDad
11:52 PenguinDad that don't help me because I don't know anything about this game
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12:00 nalkri Real Soon Noowâ„¢
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12:04 PenguinDad !c 42*-1 / (e^(i*Pi))
12:04 MinetestBot 42
12:04 nalkri Is MinetestBot a phenny?
12:05 john_minetest !c the meaning of life, the universe and everything
12:05 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:05 john_minetest 42...
12:06 nalkri !c the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything
12:06 MinetestBot 42
12:06 nalkri Gotta get the quote right :p
12:06 PenguinDad !c the answer to the life, the universe and everything
12:06 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
12:06 nalkri The point is that the question is unknown
12:07 nalkri And indeed cannot be known now that the answer is
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12:29 PenguinDad ping : thexyz
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12:34 thexyz shitnode
12:35 john_minetest * thexyz has quit (*.net *.split)
12:35 john_minetest netsplit. Surely ddos'd again.
12:35 john_minetest Or shitty network.
12:36 john_minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvAnfi8WpVE
12:36 john_minetest oops, wrong chat...
12:36 Calinou !title
12:36 MinetestBot Calinou: Chris Hadfield and Barenaked Ladies: I.S.S. (Is Somebody Singing) - YouTube
12:37 * Calinou brohooves MinetestBot
12:39 PenguinDad thexyz: I need to talk with you.
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13:10 jojoa1997 hello
13:11 VanessaE hi
13:12 jojoa1997 why was jordan banned
13:12 VanessaE ask him
13:12 jojoa1997 -.-\
13:13 jojoa1997 VanessaE have you ever thought of hosting a survival server?
13:13 VanessaE every so often but I prefer creative.
13:14 jojoa1997 what about hosting 2 servers or no?
13:14 VanessaE no
13:14 VanessaE don't have the resources for that
13:16 jojoa1997 do you know what the *CDP, *_D_, *__P, __DP means on the server list
13:16 VanessaE not sure
13:16 VanessaE Creative, Damage, not sure what the P is
13:17 MasterBot PvP
13:18 Calinou *password required, Creative, Damage, PvP
13:18 Calinou password required means empty passwords are disallowed
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13:24 MasterBot Does anyone know a web-based web-browser?
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13:37 GassyBritish Derp
13:37 GassyBritish Hi
13:41 jojoa1997 ello
13:41 jojoa1997 \bbl
13:41 jojoa1997 vvl
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13:51 Kacey bbl
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13:52 MasterBot Hi
13:52 NyanNyanCat99878 Hi
13:53 NyanNyanCat99878 Where can i get minetest?
13:53 NyanNyanCat99878 i look on minetest.net and it look good
13:53 nalkri NyanNyanCat99878: http://minetest.net/download
13:53 NyanNyanCat99878 Thank you
13:55 NyanNyanCat99878 I have LynxOS
13:55 nalkri I've not heard of anyone using Minetest on LynxOS
13:55 NyanNyanCat99878 well i intend to
13:56 nalkri I'm just saying I can't advise
13:56 NyanNyanCat99878 Would it be better if i switch to KolibriOS ?
13:57 nalkri I don't know that
13:57 Exio4 try to get irrlicht workin'
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13:59 NyanNyanCat99878 ...
14:00 NyanNyanCat99879 ...
14:00 MasterBot This is might peculiar
14:00 MasterBot *mighty
14:00 MasterBot I am going to try and instal KolibriOS -- It looks nice :)
14:05 thexyz john_minetest: that's not ddos
14:06 thexyz 14:21  -kloeri- (~kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) [Server Notice] Hi all. Hobana.freenode.net is moving to new hardware roughly 30 minutes from now so there's going to be a brief outage while we shuffle things around. Reconnecting  to chat.freenode.net will make sure you don't get hit by the outage. Thank you for using freenode.
14:06 john_minetest Oh, ok, didn't see the message.
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14:58 Jordach i have an even bigger monitor now :)
14:58 Jordach 21"
14:58 Jordach instead of 19"
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15:14 rubenwardy Hi all
15:15 arsdragonfly hi
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15:20 rubenwardy_ !seen kaeza
15:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy_: Sorry, I haven't seen kaeza around.
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15:25 rubenwardy Can someone check to see if cmake works in linux? https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator
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15:32 Jordach nalkri, hexchat was having random crashes
15:32 Jordach it was caused by a strange resolution: 16:10
15:32 nalkri Ah
15:32 rubenwardy Can someone check to see if cmake works in linux? https://github.com/rubenwardy/The-NodeBox-Generator
15:32 nalkri Sorry, my answer seemed amusing to you and I hoped it was to you too
15:33 Jordach which since i got an even bigger monitor, hexchat is more crashy
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15:38 BrandonReese rubenwardy, cmake seemed to run fine, but it wouldn't compile
15:39 rubenwardy ?
15:39 rubenwardy What does it say?
15:40 BrandonReese oops closed the terminal let me do it again
15:43 sudi rubenwardy: what is that programm doing?
15:43 rubenwardy It is a nodebox editor
15:43 rubenwardy Just did a massive release
15:43 rubenwardy 2 weeks of work
15:44 sudi not really sure what a nodebox is
15:45 BrandonReese http://pastebin.com/iAy6YfDu
15:45 BrandonReese rubenwardy - compile error ^ maybe I'm doing something wrong...
15:46 rubenwardy interesting
15:46 rubenwardy I will have to go into linux to fix it myself
15:46 sea-theorem What's that?
15:47 sudi rubenwardy: oh wow
15:47 sudi that is really bad what you are doing there
15:47 sudi dont call another constructor
15:47 sudi use a init method
15:47 rubenwardy yeah
15:48 sudi that should fix the error btw
15:48 rubenwardy I meant to change that
15:48 sudi in linux
15:48 sudi besides in the destructor
15:48 sudi why are you not using some kind of smart pointer
15:49 sudi if you are deleting the nodes anyway
15:49 sudi besides that having direct access to a pointer array
15:49 sudi from outside of the class when the class should manage the memory
15:50 sudi interesting choice
15:51 rubenwardy ?
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15:52 rubenwardy is it
15:52 rubenwardy Project(io::path file)
15:52 rubenwardy :Project()
15:52 rubenwardy or
15:52 rubenwardy Project(io::path file)
15:52 rubenwardy :Project::Project()
15:53 sea-theorem I got it to compile
15:53 sudi both is bad
15:53 sudi don't do that
15:53 sudi ....
15:53 sudi what you could do
15:53 sudi new(this) Project();
15:53 sudi but thats bad as well
15:53 sudi ^^
15:53 sea-theorem god sudi, leave them alone. Write your own code
15:55 sudi rubenwardy: or if you use c++11 you can use the init list.
15:55 sudi Project(path file) : Project() {}
15:56 rubenwardy <rubenwardy> Project(io::path file)
15:56 rubenwardy <rubenwardy>  :Project()
15:56 rubenwardy which is what I said
15:56 sudi ok if that is what it meant
15:56 sudi then yes
15:57 Exio4 does anyone know a realistic driving game?
15:58 sudi sea-theorem: what
15:58 Exio4 :( i guess no
15:58 nalkri If you want realistic, look for sims not games
15:58 NakedFury Exio4: http://www.moddb.com/games/traction-wars
15:59 Exio4 i don't really want to kill people in a game, for first time
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16:00 Exio4 hi Calinou
16:00 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101653#p101653
16:00 Calinou hi
16:00 Calinou "Because of the amount of changes I have made, I have skipped a few versions." you should work at mozilla :P
16:01 rubenwardy lol
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16:04 Peacock ?? 08:02:50: ERROR[main]: WARNING: updateListener: invalid value
16:05 Peacock position said : inf, 12,-250K lol
16:11 sea-theorem Hmm, there's a problem here.
16:11 sea-theorem I think that the rabbit is about to do something very silly
16:12 Peacock the weirdest bug yet, debugs' just as helpful lol
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16:19 Jordach rubenwardy, http://i.imgur.com/Hst4Ilg.png
16:20 Calinou this bug was brought to you by: nvidia
16:20 * Calinou runs
16:20 rubenwardy because it is a cg build
16:20 Calinou talking about that, OpenGL 4.4 was released yesterday, and nvidia already supports it in a beta driver. :D
16:20 Peacock how does that happen?
16:20 Calinou and AMD just started doing 3.3
16:20 Calinou 4.3*
16:21 Peacock ill check that out when i switch this box to CB
16:21 Peacock though this never used to happen with 0.4.4 or 0.4.5
16:21 Jordach rubenwardy, not everyone is opengl 4.4
16:21 Calinou that had nothing to do with your problem Jordach
16:21 Calinou I was just saying ;)
16:23 Jordach rubenwardy, why are you using fucking CG
16:23 rubenwardy I built irrlicht with CG shader support, and I forget to use standard irrlicht for the nb generator
16:23 Calinou Jordach: you should have been playing StuntRally before 2.1 :P
16:24 Jordach rubenwardy, make a vm or some shit for taht
16:24 Jordach that*
16:24 rubenwardy vm?
16:24 rubenwardy what do you mean VM?
16:25 Jordach virtual machine
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16:25 rubenwardy yeah, i know
16:25 rubenwardy but why?
16:25 Jordach always make builds in virtual machines
16:25 rubenwardy why?
16:25 Jordach because everything is usually at default settings
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16:26 MasterBot Hello
16:26 MasterBot I am running OpenBox And it is AWESOME
16:26 MasterBot I have a monitor to my left with the server console
16:27 Jordach Jordach.notification_global("Please use a real IRC client dumbass."),
16:27 MasterBot 86.142.63.71:30000
16:27 MasterBot Mark.KissMyAss
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16:28 Jordach MasterBot, i can !kick and !ban now
16:30 Jordach !op
16:30 MasterBot So?
16:31 MasterBot You cant kick someone just because you dislike them and in know you are going to do !kick MasterBot Yes i can! now
16:31 Jordach I'm very strict
16:31 Jordach and nope.avi, as that's a waste of key cycles
16:31 Jordach unless you have *actually done an offence* then youre usually fine
16:32 MasterBot I have not offended you as a person, just ran a command :P
16:32 MasterBot And to a non-programmer i insulted myself
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16:58 bulldog98 hi guys
16:58 Peacock howdy
16:58 hdastwb hello
16:59 bulldog98 is there a way to dig a hole and make jumpable so that you don’t die from jumping into it? (eg put a water source at the bottem)
16:59 Calinou well you just said it
16:59 hdastwb if you will it with enough water or ladders, it will stop your fall
16:59 Calinou water, ladders, or putting a slab at bottom and holding Sneak key
17:00 bulldog98 a ok is there a formular for how many nodes water I need?
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17:00 Calinou not really
17:00 hdastwb *fill
17:00 bulldog98 hm
17:01 bulldog98 ok I’ll test the slab
17:04 bas080 When will this topic be removed? I'm reporting it as offensive overall
17:04 bas080 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101547#p101547
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17:07 hdastwb I think PilzAdam should have just asked a moderator to move it to modding general, rather than harassing the poster about putting it in the wrong section
17:07 Calinou why do things well and silently when you can yell about a problem that is solved in less than a minute?
17:07 Calinou (inb4 that's what she said)
17:08 MasterBot lol serves you right PilzAdam
17:08 bas080 Maybe make a category called "drama"
17:09 bas080 so people can talk about emotions and personal experiences
17:10 Calinou bas080: just call it "/b/"
17:10 Calinou works too
17:10 hdastwb they can move the distro wars in there as well
17:10 bulldog98 Calinou: cool with the slab it works thanks :)
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17:37 Jordach i just played tetris with a rock band guitar
17:37 Jordach your turn bitches.
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17:38 Peacock we built a giant wall to keep bitches out, top that lol
17:38 Jordach bitches = pimps
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17:38 Jordach pimps = clothing purchases
17:38 Jordach and cars
17:38 john_minetest Peacock: Chinese did that.
17:38 Yepoleb i watched a youtube video with my eyes
17:39 Peacock well our wall's got guard towers, turrets and proximity detectors :p
17:39 Yepoleb your turn, Jordach
17:39 Jordach Yepoleb, //pos1, //pos2, //set air
17:39 Jordach bitch.
17:40 Yepoleb /replace Jordach air
17:40 Peacock lol
17:40 Yepoleb bitch.
17:40 Peacock he got you there jordach
17:42 Jordach Peacock, Yepoleb: /set default_privs = all
17:42 Jordach then let anyone join
17:42 Peacock are you nuts? lol
17:43 Yepoleb why should i do that?
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18:12 john_minetest Peacock: You should build a large gap around the wall that is covered with pistons. If people are at wall, pistons let enemies fall into pit.
18:12 Peacock pistons what mod is that in?
18:16 Peacock forum search: mesecons, thats pretty heavy
18:16 Peacock realms is slowing my server down already :/
18:16 Peacock speaking of which, where's jeija?
18:18 Calinou jeija never had a server, no?
18:18 Peacock im not asking about his server, just him :P
18:19 Peacock no posts no pulls in awhile
18:19 Peacock particlespawners are pretty cool, was looking forward to the next thing (whatever it may be)
18:25 hdastwb I would use ghoststone over pistons; they can cover a wider area…
18:25 Peacock was thinking of the new mines mod actually, that looks cool
18:25 Peacock i got dragon's teeth on my server already
18:25 Peacock brb
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18:31 Jordach Peacock, Yepoleb: configured the guitar to work with my DAW
18:33 Jordach (Digital Audio Workstation btw)
18:33 Exio4 !deop Jordach
18:34 Exio4 the reason for the op is? :>
18:34 Exio4 btw, is anyone here having a lot of money and doesn't know where put it? i always accept gifts :D
18:34 Calinou buy a quadro K6000, Exio4
18:34 Jordach !deop
18:34 Calinou http://www.hardware.fr/news/13253/nvidia-quadro-k6000-gk110-complet-12-go.html (french)
18:34 Calinou :>
18:34 Jordach !voice Exio4
18:34 Jordach there
18:34 Exio4 <3
18:36 Jordach i also have a companion cube on this desk now
18:36 nalkri Is it a geared Companion Cube?
18:36 Jordach weighted
18:37 nalkri Could be both with a bit of design effort
18:39 Jordach nalkri, it's a papercraft one
18:39 Jordach been sitting on my school desk for 4 years, came home as im leaving my current school this year as im going to college next year :P
18:40 Jordach it now sits under my monitor
18:40 Jordach happily
18:40 nalkri Ah, that's cool :)
18:40 nalkri I was thinking of 3d printing
18:41 Exio4 3d print a mese pick!
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18:41 Exio4 http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g27-racing-wheel
18:41 Exio4 i should close that link ;_;
18:45 * Jordach jizzes
18:45 nalkri I need a left handed joystick
18:45 nalkri The modern Cyborg is right handed :(
18:46 nalkri Stupid handed interface devices :(
18:48 leo_rockway they never really make left handed devices. Either neutral or right handed.
18:49 nalkri The old Cyborg was unhanded
18:49 nalkri You could set it up for any hand you had to hand
18:49 leo_rockway I just use neutral stuff
18:50 leo_rockway I never really looked for any left handed stuff. They are probably way more expensive.
18:50 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92666#p92666
18:51 Jordach > edited by tinoesroho 05-06-2025 5:10:15 am)
18:52 Jordach seems legit.
18:58 Exio4 only-in-minetest
18:58 Exio4 where the time i cuestioned!
18:59 Exio4 is *
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19:21 Peacock can we share banlists on server threads?
19:21 Calinou no
19:21 Calinou way too easy to abuse
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19:22 Peacock thats what i figured :p
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19:25 Peacock anyways its as long as my arm :/
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19:41 jojoa1997 hello!
19:41 Calinou hi tablet user :)
19:42 Jordach looks like jojoa1997 needs his medas
19:42 Jordach -a
19:42 jojoa1997 meds?
19:43 * Calinou ubercharges jojoa1997
19:43 jojoa1997 why
19:43 Calinou because
19:45 jojoa1997 why? are you saying i am dependent on meds? cause im not.
19:46 Jordach the meds in question is called minetest
19:46 Peacock minetest is the addiction, not the medication lol
19:47 jojoa1997 yah and also i dont need minetest
19:47 jojoa1997 im not addicted
19:47 * jojoa1997 relizes that is what all addicts say
19:47 jojoa1997 but if you wanna know i am watching youtube and playing my 3ds
19:48 Peacock i do, i made "head" ore, everytime i find one, my wife has to...
19:48 Calinou downvote for using consoles
19:50 Yepoleb hi calinou
19:51 Calinou hi
19:53 jojoa1997 so quiet..
19:53 jojoa1997
19:53 Jordach jojoa1997, please dont do the extra newline for no reason
19:54 jojoa1997 :)
19:54 Peacock anyone know the max length of ingame chat message so i can code some msg splitting?
19:54 jojoa1997 simple type 123456789123...
19:54 jojoa1997 and count
19:54 Peacock that stops working when you get to ten
19:54 jojoa1997 no
19:54 jojoa1997 123456789123456789
19:54 Peacock 10 is two characters
19:55 jojoa1997 you count all the groups of 10 0-9
19:55 jojoa1997 please look closely
19:55 jojoa1997 0123456789_0123456789 without the _
19:55 Peacock quicker if i check chat.cpp lol
19:57 Peacock well, it's an s32
19:57 Peacock whatever that is lol
19:57 * Peacock keeps looking
19:58 Exio4 signed 32 bit integer
19:58 Exio4 signed means one bit is used for the sign so
19:59 Exio4 !calc 2^31
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19:59 Exio4 !c 2^31
19:59 MinetestBot 2 147 483 648
19:59 Peacock not 2 bil characters tho
20:00 Exio4 i just got an extreme lagspike with huge messages on screen that were about 5000 chars iirc
20:00 Peacock i wish
20:00 Exio4 maybe more, maybe less, never checked the exact number
20:00 Peacock whenever i type something that goes for two lines i segfault
20:00 Calinou lots of chars tend to slow down, especially with freetype
20:00 Calinou Peacock, long chat messages cause segfault, known bug
20:00 Exio4 not in the console, just when having them "on screen"
20:01 Calinou yes
20:01 Exio4 anyone has a backtrace of that bug?
20:01 Peacock so i should override the chat command in builtin and split messages up into chunks of N characters
20:01 Peacock must solve for N lol
20:01 Exio4 are you sure it is a problem in that "side"?
20:01 Peacock i ain't got anything :( debug just gives me 'break" or something like that
20:01 Peacock naw its not a problem in builtin but i can workaround in builtin at least
20:02 Exio4 bt full
20:02 Exio4 Peacock: i mean, server-side? couldn't be the problem sending it?
20:02 Exio4 and local messages are actually predicted, so..
20:02 Peacock uhm, not sure :/
20:02 Peacock it crashes right when i press enter
20:02 Peacock terminal gives 'segfault' nothing else
20:03 Exio4 do you see the local message before?
20:03 Peacock may or may not be related: it only happens to the computer running the server, other players dont have any trouble
20:03 Peacock nope chat msg does not appear in terminal
20:05 Exio4 :o only 50 seconds to recompile MT
20:05 Exio4 52*
20:06 Peacock not bad
20:06 Peacock on the P4 i could make dinner while it compiles lol
20:06 Peacock you must have, 2-3 cores?
20:07 Calinou Exio4, 52 seconds? O_o
20:07 Peacock i think in the meantime ill just write a help mod that picks up on keywords and has the server answer common questions
20:07 khor !c 2^64
20:07 MinetestBot 1.84467441 × 10^(19)
20:08 Exio4 Calinou: yeah,
20:08 Exio4 Peacock: "6" cores, bulldozer 6100
20:08 khor !c 10/0
20:08 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:08 Peacock 10/0 = 0 i think?
20:08 khor math error
20:08 Peacock galc says inf
20:08 Exio4 lim(10/0) tends to +inf
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20:09 Exio4 i can't reproduce the bug Peacock
20:09 Peacock and you just compiled from latest git? ill have to try on that one then
20:10 Exio4 yes, latest git without freetype nor curl enabled, just because i had that :P
20:10 Peacock you think freetype might be causing it?
20:11 Exio4 no idea
20:11 Calinou it happens with both, iirc
20:11 * Peacock checks builtin
20:13 Peacock ok i could use minetest.register_on_chat_message to break messages up
20:14 Exio4 i wonder why is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/468 still open?
20:14 Peacock tho i think the 2nd and + slices would appear to come from server
20:15 Exio4 the problem won't get fixed by that though
20:15 Exio4 the chat is predicted and then sent, iirc, if your problem happens before the prediction..
20:16 Peacock no but ittl prevent my public server from crashing every time i try to help someone lol
20:16 Peacock you lost me at prediction lol
20:16 Calinou --Peacock on QuakeWorld
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20:17 Exio4 lol
20:25 Peacock dont play FPS's - tedious games lol
20:26 Exio4 FPS's
20:26 Exio4 what is that
20:26 Peacock first person shooters
20:27 Exio4 i mean the 's
20:27 Peacock unless quakeworld is some online quaker community
20:27 Peacock plural
20:27 Calinou quakeworld is a quake mod that adds client side prediction to quake :P
20:28 Exio4 :O
20:28 Calinou also, FPSes aren't more tedious than minetest
20:28 Exio4 client-side prediction on quake?
20:28 Exio4 that can't be true!
20:28 Peacock well, you can build whatever you want in sandbox games, but there are only so many ways to kill a player in a FPS
20:29 Exio4 you're limited to blocks in minetest and that
20:29 Calinou Exio4, source engine is based on quake, and has (good) client side prediction :p
20:29 Exio4 you're limited to weapons in FPS(s)
20:29 Calinou xonotic is based on darkplaces, but its prediction is worse
20:29 Exio4 Calinou: i mean, the "real" quake :P
20:29 Calinou Exio4, you can have weapons in minetest, firearms mod :P
20:30 Exio4 weapons without client-side prediction?
20:30 Exio4 those aren't weapons
20:30 Peacock yeah but the range of things you can do with blocks and the range of things you can do w/ weapons in FPS...
20:30 Exio4 you can't do much when playing MT unless you use mods like mesecons...
20:30 Exio4 so
20:31 Peacock if mesecons is a must then you've run out of imagination/things to build
20:31 Peacock besides what do computers and calculators have to do with the voxel world concept? (universal argument) :p
20:32 Exio4 exactly
20:33 Peacock if i was gonna do that i'd rather just draw diagrams lol
20:34 Calinou Exio4, source engine has weapon predictions, but not darkplaces
20:37 Exio4 redeclipse has
20:37 Calinou redeclipse does it clientside
20:37 Exio4 and xonotic? i don't recall
20:38 Peacock xonotic: did they hold a contest for the goofyest sounding name? lol
20:39 Peacock sounds like a failed car lol
20:39 Peacock "The Homer" lol
20:40 leo_rockway Peacock: I like it better than Nexuiz.
20:40 Peacock that was the old name?
20:40 leo_rockway yes, before it was hijacked.
20:40 Peacock FLOSS needs linguists lol
20:40 leo_rockway Nexuiz, pronounced Nexiuz... o.0
20:40 Calinou nexuiz is dead anyway :P
20:40 leo_rockway they made a typo when registering the domain
20:40 Menche how do you pronounce 'xonotic' anyway?
20:40 Menche like zonotic?
20:40 Peacock ^
20:40 Menche or ecksonotic
20:40 Calinou zone-otic, kso-notic
20:41 leo_rockway yup
20:41 Calinou depends if you're in USA or europe[wiki]
20:41 Exio4 Menche: like zonotic in argentinian!
20:41 leo_rockway Calinou: the old dev came back to screw all the newer devs over. The newer devs moved to Xonotic... that's pretty much now it goes.
20:41 Peacock like VLC on ios lol
20:41 leo_rockway how*
20:41 leo_rockway VLC on ios was a license issue
20:42 Peacock yeah, one dev
20:42 Peacock screwing over the users
20:42 Peacock bad publicity for GPL honestly
20:42 Peacock so VLC switched or dual-licensed now
20:42 leo_rockway yes, but the GPL was not the problem, IMO, but ios.
20:43 leo_rockway so the old dev of Nexuiz had copyright and sold the work off all the devs over to some company.
20:43 Peacock but i thought the GPL was there to protect users' rights, not the devs, and yet 1 dev was able to get it pulled.... doesn't sound like its working
20:43 leo_rockway Peacock: VLC got pulled out of the ios market at the time.
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20:44 leo_rockway VLC itself was still free software, the ios market didn't allow resharing in more than 3 devices, though.
20:44 Peacock full article (Read comments)
20:44 Peacock http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/07/18/1943202/vlc-for-ios-returns-on-july-19-rewritten-and-fully-open-sourced
20:45 Calinou <Peacock> bad publicity for GPL honestly
20:45 leo_rockway oh, this is new news!
20:45 Calinou buuut... FREEDOM! we need to argue for users' FREEDOMS!
20:45 Calinou </sarcasm>
20:45 leo_rockway I'm talking about what happened before.
20:45 Calinou and this is how people argue on the internet
20:45 Peacock diff people have diff ideas about freedom :p
20:46 Peacock hence communist freedom ~= capitalist freedom
20:46 Peacock (for obvious reasons)
20:47 Peacock like some people want the freedom to bare arms and others want freedom from gun violence
20:47 leo_rockway oh, so it's just the same thing, except the double licensed.
20:47 leo_rockway Apple didn't change a thing :S
20:47 Peacock yeah though the comments say it still might not pass
20:48 Peacock one helluva license debate in that article lol
20:48 leo_rockway it's because the market adds restrictions to the license
20:48 Calinou meanwhile: people praise apple for their design, brand image, and being friendly to photoshop
20:48 Peacock apple simply puts out consumer grade stuff for people who couldn't care less how it works so long as it works
20:48 nalkri And people with the same ideas about freedom have different ideas about how to optimise for it
20:49 leo_rockway I find it funny how Apple went from attacking 1984 to becoming 1984
20:49 Peacock you and me might be willing to deal with bugs and problems in linux, but thats not for everyone
20:49 leo_rockway Peacock: you say that like Apple products are bug free...
20:49 Menche why does it seem so difficult to build minetest for osx?
20:49 Peacock ive never used it i cant say
20:49 Calinou linux has less bugs and problems than trolls might say
20:49 Calinou Menche, because it is
20:49 Calinou it's always a PITA to build on proprietary OSes for obvious reasons
20:50 Peacock linux is a bit like the lottery when it comes to which devices are supported :p
20:50 Menche would think that osx would be more similar to linux
20:50 Peacock especially printers/scanners things like that
20:50 leo_rockway I used Cheetah for about 4 months. And then had to install and deal with Tiger for a little bit...
20:50 Menche but we build for linux and windoze but can't build for osx
20:50 leo_rockway I prefer OSX over Windows
20:50 leo_rockway but that doesn't mean I like OSX
20:50 Calinou Peacock, it's not a lottery, it's a matter of choosing well
20:50 Peacock must not be enough mac players on minetest?
20:50 Calinou Peacock, lol no
20:51 Peacock calinou, assume you dont buy all your hardware *after* chosing an OS
20:51 Peacock i mean, it stands to reason: you need a computer to discover linux on the internet lol
20:51 Calinou poor computer choices are your problem
20:51 Peacock poor by who's standard?
20:51 Peacock do you assume the shelves are stocked the same in every store in every country?
20:51 leo_rockway Peacock: I discovered Linux on a magazine last millenium :S
20:52 leo_rockway we still used magazines!
20:52 Peacock or that we all trust shipping companies to not kick our packages over the fence?
20:52 Calinou also: <leo_rockway> Peacock: you say that like Apple products are bug free...
20:52 Calinou premium products have bugs, low cost products have bugs.
20:52 Peacock 15 years ago I only bought high end PCs and i had as many problems as buying the cheapest ones now
20:52 leo_rockway I find that premium products sometimes have more bugs due to schedules.
20:53 leo_rockway they need to have the software ready by a certain date (black Friday, or whatever)
20:53 Peacock so between forking over 2K or 200$, guess which i'll chose :p
20:53 leo_rockway free software releases when it's ready, but you can use it before that.
20:53 Peacock i see you've never used arch :p
20:53 Calinou harsh linux
20:53 leo_rockway it doesn't man that releases don't have serious bug (see Debian's ssh)
20:54 leo_rockway Peacock: I use Arch TESTING
20:54 * Menche uses Arch
20:54 Peacock funny im moving away from it now
20:54 Exio4 in the meantime i use debian & gentoo
20:54 Calinou xubuntu bro!
20:54 leo_rockway this server is Debian Wheezy
20:54 Peacock packer's broken, can't update it through pacman, i miss synaptic lol
20:54 Calinou haters gonna hate <insert gif of pony jumping into a hole here>
20:54 Peacock so... crunchbang
20:54 Menche you can't update it through pacman??
20:55 Peacock packer? nope
20:55 leo_rockway I'm really happy with Arch
20:55 Calinou what I don't like about xubuntu is that it's not rolling release, though
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20:55 Menche packer? that some pacman wrapper?
20:55 Peacock aur helper
20:55 Calinou rolling release means no reinstalls or risky upgrades...
20:55 Peacock and pacman wrapper
20:55 leo_rockway like yaourt
20:55 * Menche uses yaourt
20:55 Peacock rolling releases can break a system too
20:55 Calinou if well done, they probably shouldn't
20:55 Peacock yaourt isn't in pacman either is it?
20:55 Calinou if done bad, they will, like a stable release
20:56 leo_rockway Calinou: I had more issues upgrading versions of Ubuntu than using Arch testing.
20:56 Peacock well arch is a perfect example of how not to roll out changes lol
20:56 Menche yaourt isn't in the default repos
20:56 Calinou typically I reinstall while keeping my /home
20:56 Exio4 +[17:55:34] <Peacock> rolling releases can break a system too
20:56 Calinou that keeps enough data, but you still need to reinstall a fair bunch of software
20:56 Exio4 suddenly, gentoo
20:56 Exio4 a real rolling release distro
20:56 leo_rockway Exio4: I never used Gentoo. I love it in theory. In practice I don't have the patience.
20:56 Peacock ive lost my lust for bleeding edge, i'll take "working when i need it" instead lol
20:57 Peacock *lustre
20:57 Peacock wtv
20:57 Exio4 i've said that to you a bit ago iirc
20:57 leo_rockway Peacock: KMail from KDE unstable is making me feel that. But versionitis is too powerful :S
20:57 Exio4 i'm k with the kernel 3.9 for now
20:57 Peacock you mean when the numbers go up every other day? lol
20:57 Peacock i noticed that too
20:57 leo_rockway Exio4: I have 3.10.2 o.o
20:58 Exio4 yeah, you're an archlinux user
20:58 Exio4 you will have the last kernel always
20:58 Peacock my game is a joke on that actually lol theres no versions 3,4,5,6
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20:58 Exio4 even if it is claimed to break your filesystem, and kill your family
20:58 Exio4 anyway, leaving
20:59 Calinou "working when I need it", suddenly, software developers tell you to update your 16-24 month old software
20:59 Calinou happened to me once
20:59 Calinou and... that fixed the issue
20:59 Peacock updates is what causes shit to stop working
20:59 MasterBot http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=105925 ..Anyone?
20:59 leo_rockway hey, leave my XP alone. It's been working fine for me since 2003!
20:59 Peacock id rather clean-install every 6 months
20:59 leo_rockway o.o
20:59 Calinou it can also make shit start working
21:00 Peacock yeah but the odds are against more shit being fixed than broken lol
21:00 Calinou lol markveidemanis on debian forums
21:00 * Calinou eats popcorn
21:00 Peacock though you install on a clean slate and everythings' fine
21:00 Calinou MasterBot, this is likely to be a graphic driver issue
21:00 Peacock a lot of it has to do with dependencies being upgraded at the same time
21:01 Calinou Peacock, see the positive side of things
21:01 MasterBot It works fine, i  just need the numbers
21:01 Calinou there are way too many people being negative on software, for no reason
21:01 Calinou MasterBot, what is your graphics card? and driver?
21:01 Calinou lspci | grep VGA
21:01 MasterBot 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
21:01 Peacock well, if software developers had the same kind of liabilities as consumer product manufacturers, most of them would be out of business lol
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21:02 Peacock nor could a car company get away with calling an airbag that doesn't deploy "a feature" lol
21:03 Calinou night
21:03 Peacock night
21:04 Peacock good lord they built it http://davidmoorephoto.com/storage/cache/images/000/975/1I2B9665,large.2x.jpg?1372317810
21:05 leo_rockway Peacock: LOL
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21:07 Peacock wonder how much it cost to make lol
21:13 MasterBot http://bpaste.net/show/nvJCLSVnG4EYyiBHQtdH/
21:22 MasterBot How much MHz do i need for a 1440x900 monitor?
21:43 harrison How much do you have to spend?
21:43 MasterBot 1.6 :(
21:44 MasterBot 1.6 GHz, you do the math
21:44 MasterBot But none wasted -- Openbox:)
21:44 harrison doc, when i giggle, it hurts!
21:44 harrison 1.6 gigglehurts
21:47 MasterBot i put 100
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22:06 PilzAdam post of the year: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=101699#p101699
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22:32 MinetestBot GIT: hdastwb commited to minetest/minetest: added (optional) support for 6d facedir in dir_to_facedir and added facedir_to_dir a0f5b70568 2013-07-23T15:31:32-07:00 http://git.io/hHQYCw
22:42 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Cosmetic player info changes 3629a90c2e 2013-07-23T15:41:03-07:00 http://git.io/za3xkA
22:43 sea-theorem Hmm...hey, can we make minetest n-dimensional?
22:43 Peacock n dimensional?
22:43 PilzAdam did you just volunteer to patch irrlicht?
22:44 Exio4 lol @ ^
22:44 nalkri Looks like it
22:44 sea-theorem I'm pretty sure that you'd have to patch minetest, but not irrlicht
22:44 nalkri Someone tie them to a chair and make it happen
22:45 Peacock dont do that, they might think they're getting some
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22:53 Peacock weird, the inf position thing only happens when someone logs in
22:55 jojoa1997 so i have a computer that gets 2 fps when i used an 8 pixel texture pack i got 4 fps. how could i raise the fps to around 20
22:57 Exio4 Peacock: how do you reproduce it?
22:58 Exio4 jojoa1997: getting a better computer normally works
22:58 Peacock i cant, someone logs in, and i get dragged off to weird coordinates
22:58 Peacock like -inf,{normal},250000
22:58 Exio4 use an updated client for that not happening?
22:58 Exio4 there is a speed-cap in collisions since 0.4.5 iirc
22:59 jojoa1997 well my mom has a 10 year old computer and her other one is out
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23:01 Peacock im not using that old a version :p
23:01 Exio4 aren't you using 0.4.4?
23:01 Peacock oh hell no lol
23:01 Peacock 0.4.6
23:02 Peacock 0.4.4 is mesopotamian
23:02 Exio4 who would use that bugged release o_O
23:02 Exio4 lemme check the changelog
23:02 Peacock how many bug-free releases do you count? lol
23:02 Exio4 the 0.4.6 release was filled with bugs
23:02 Exio4 http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.6_.E2.86.92_0.4.7
23:02 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Add gettext translation for image_button 8e2467c393 2013-07-23T16:01:56-07:00 http://git.io/G9AYcw
23:03 Exio4 the limit/speedcap is in 0.4.7
23:03 Exio4 not 0.4.5
23:03 Exio4 6*
23:04 Peacock honestly the only reason i didn't upgrade was because I didn't like most of the changes, but i dont think ill have much choice
23:04 Peacock though it seems like most of the changes i didn't like are in minetest_Game
23:04 Peacock which i can replace
23:07 Peacock ugh, i hate to ban kids, but i hate babysitting even more lol
23:09 Peacock though, if i made changes to things in /builtin, do i need to back those up?
23:10 Exio4 i would use git powa for this
23:10 Exio4 edit, git add builtin/newfile.lua
23:10 Exio4 git add bultin/whatever-file-is-used-for-loading.lua
23:10 Peacock ah shit, moot point, packer's broken, ill be compiling from terminal
23:11 Exio4 git commit -m "local change: add stuff to builtin that does X shit"
23:11 Exio4 and add a source/include/whatever "__builtin/newfile.lua" or so
23:11 Peacock i had this thing somewhere that made colors.txt for the mapper from the node register function
23:12 Peacock i think in misc_register.lua
23:12 PilzAdam bye
23:20 bas080 I have thought about this a while. What is mesecons are not mesecons but coppercons... that way we can use mese technology for the real alien technologies like teleportation, levitation and other more "magical" mechanics.
23:24 bas080 it's just a name. i know...
23:24 bas080 nvm
23:28 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Add support of pressed_texture of image_button a59f85c1a0 2013-07-23T16:02:43-07:00 http://git.io/WHmw-A
23:35 Peacock i think the point of mesecons is that you need mese to make em
23:35 Peacock i could be wrong tho
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23:36 Peacock as for alien tech, pick an alien race and use their name :p
23:37 Peacock like those people who wear dog tags on their head on stargate
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23:44 sdzen hello #minetest
23:44 Peacock minetest says no
23:44 Peacock (little britain joke) :p
23:45 sdzen my bedsheets smell rank, your arguement has become invalid
23:45 Peacock thank you for that mental imagery
23:46 sdzen what mental imagery?
23:46 Peacock plumes of green smoke coming from the bed lol
23:46 Peacock (the sims)
23:46 Peacock inb4 someone says the sims is evil and we should play opensims
23:47 Peacock :p
23:47 sdzen how does one manage that?
23:47 sdzen ive never gotten that to happen to a bed playing sims
23:47 sdzen mfw nothing is real
23:47 Peacock nihilism
23:52 sdzen I found squirrels!
23:52 sdzen okay back to business, 0.4.8 out yet?
23:52 Uberi nopers
23:52 Peacock dont think so
23:52 Peacock there was talk a week ago that it might be ready?
23:52 Exio4 sdzen: it got delayed because lua mainmenu
23:52 Peacock CBW
23:53 Peacock what's the lua menu supposed to do?
23:53 Exio4 Peacock: check upstream, it contains an online mod manager
23:54 Peacock mod manager is for downloading mods from minetest.net?
23:54 Exio4 https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/
23:54 sdzen how does it preform in relation to past mainmenus?
23:54 Peacock does the old method of just /games/mygames/mods still work?
23:55 Exio4 /mygames/ is deprecated
23:55 Exio4 the mod "managing" changed.. a bit
23:55 Peacock so i have to stick all my mods in a main folder and tick a bunch of boxes?
23:56 sdzen that has been around for awhile, and its obviously here to stay
23:56 sdzen :)
23:56 sdzen oh wait wrong face
23:56 sdzen :(
23:56 Exio4 lets say you need to do that, for keeping it simple
23:56 Peacock i just wanna make sure i dont have to upload my  stuff to actually use it lol
23:56 Peacock it used to be simpler :p
23:56 sdzen click drag
23:56 sdzen ctrl x
23:57 sdzen ctrl v
23:57 sdzen now you add click
23:57 Peacock ^
23:57 sdzen that is extra step
23:58 Exio4 it is simpler for "normal uses"
23:58 Exio4 users*
23:58 Exio4 where they will download it from the interface, enable it in the "same" interface and so
23:58 Peacock the really dumb ones yeah lol but they don't get the best of receptions on forum either

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