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00:00 Mallot1 joined #minetest
00:03 roboman2444 joined #minetest
00:08 * VanessaE is back also.
00:10 Mallot1 how deep is iron now?
00:11 khonkhortisan joined #minetest
00:11 PilzAdam not very deep
00:12 Mallot1 do u have a number?
00:12 PilzAdam yes
00:12 VanessaE 3.
00:12 PilzAdam but I wont tell you since it would destroy the fun in the game
00:12 PilzAdam VanessaE, wrong
00:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: I never specified a unit ;-)
00:12 Mallot1 aww, we have a griefing on this server and i need a bucket im going to scoop up the lava
00:12 khonkhortisan 1 infinity, 2 infinity, 3...
00:13 Mallot1 and the spawn is conver i bones
00:13 Mallot1 *covered in
00:13 PilzAdam happy searching then :-)
00:13 Mallot1 tso noone and move
00:13 VanessaE no surprise there, Mallot1.  you seem to have a problem with lava...
00:13 Mallot1 it wasnt me
00:13 Mallot1 wait what?
00:14 VanessaE "it was my [brother|sister|other family member|girlfriend|son|....]"
00:14 Mallot1 ok if u say so
00:14 PilzAdam "it was my girlfriends boyfriend!"
00:14 Mallot1 :D lol
00:15 Mallot1 looks like u got a problem PilzAdam :3 lol
00:15 Mallot1 jk
00:17 khonkhortisan "and they got my password and logged in as me and I told them to never do it again so do you forgive me and can I build again please I built something really important on this server"
00:17 Mallot1 lol
00:17 Mallot1 what r u guys even quoting?
00:18 VanessaE Mallot1: all the reasons we've seen for people whose accounts have been used to grief servers.
00:18 Mallot1 lololollololollol
00:18 Mallot1 1000010010100111000101001010010101001
00:19 Mallot1 ERROR: 701
00:19 * khonkhortisan just found "Panning:" in nvidia-settings ^^
00:19 PilzAdam its funny how kids make such a big deal out of such things as if its the most important part in their lifes
00:19 khonkhortisan just bumped it from 1440x900 to 1440^2
00:19 Mallot1 IKR!!!
00:19 Mallot1 its just a game
00:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: for a kid, a game *is* the most important, at least while it's being played.
00:19 Mallot1 naw for lazt kids
00:19 PilzAdam Mallot1, stop writing such nonsense here
00:19 Mallot1 tlazy kids
00:19 Mallot1 tsorry typos
00:20 Mallot1 sorry im used to clicking t on minetest to start typing
00:20 Mallot1 and how is this non-sense? were talking about the SAME thing O.o
00:21 khonkhortisan this is much better than screen rotate!
00:22 Mallot1 ??? now thats non-sense
00:22 khonkhortisan I doubled my screen resolution through the magic of panning
00:22 Mallot1 :D
00:22 VanessaE Mallot1: if you don't know what XRandR is, you don't know what he's talking about.
00:22 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, its funny how you have screen rotate in KDE settings only in 1 direction, so you have to find that button 3 times in different rotations :D
00:22 khonkhortisan and fullscreen games are still sized normally
00:23 Mallot1 IDC if IDK
00:23 Mallot1 Im AFFC now
00:23 khonkhortisan I don't need my four desktops anymore
00:23 Mallot1 away from freenode chat
00:25 Mallot1 was kicked by ShadowBot: PilzAdam
00:25 khonkhortisan PilzAdam, I have a drop-down menu with six options
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00:26 khonkhortisan including mirror
00:26 marktraceur Ahh, #minetest children. Part of me missed this particular source of amusement.
00:26 khonkhortisan ...which doesn't work.
00:26 Kacey marktraceur!
00:26 VanessaE marktraceur: well what'd you expect? :D
00:26 Mallot1 yo peepa
00:26 PilzAdam hey mark
00:27 Mallot1 how old r u guys?
00:27 Mallot1 59?
00:27 PilzAdam marktraceur, I guess the man target of Minetest are childreen
00:27 khonkhortisan Mallot1, <
00:27 PilzAdam *main
00:27 Mallot1 no duh X3
00:27 khonkhortisan the sam target
00:27 marktraceur PilzAdam: "target"
00:27 VanessaE old enough to know when words were spelled out all the time, and "r" and "u" were never considered as such.
00:27 khonkhortisan y?
00:27 marktraceur Implies there's any goal implicit in the project :)
00:27 Mallot1 :D lol
00:28 Mallot1 spelling words out was what i was a kid
00:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, y u forbid r and u?
00:28 Mallot1 :D lolol
00:28 marktraceur Mallot1: We try not to ask questions about who folks are in the real world - some of us are more public than others, but it's sort of uncomfortable for some people to talk about it
00:28 PilzAdam is so 1337 to not type correctly
00:29 * VanessaE growls at PilzAdam
00:29 Mallot1 PilzAdam: ok i understand we dont want creepers at our doorsteps X3
00:30 marktraceur Do you mean me?
00:30 marktraceur Because that's not my intent either.
00:30 Mallot1 no anyone :3
00:30 marktraceur I mean, were you responding to my message?
00:30 marktraceur You highlighted PilzAdam but I'm not sure you did that on purpose.
00:31 * khonkhortisan meows
00:31 Mallot1 oh i meant you sorry, :)
00:31 * khonkhortisan places a kitty on Mallot1's head
00:31 * MinetestBot puts an kitten on khonkhortisan's head
00:31 Mallot1 :D
00:31 Mallot1 Mallot1 eats popcorn and watches show
00:32 marktraceur Mallot1: My reasoning isn't that it might cause people's real-world identities to become known and cause them to be harassed - just that they may not want to identify with any group, and that's OK.
00:32 marktraceur Mallot1: Also, try typing /me eats popcorn and watches show
00:32 khonkhortisan I ran out of popcorn yesterday
00:32 Mallot1 lololo
00:32 Mallot1 l
00:32 Mallot1 ok mark
00:33 Mallot1 thant was the other senario
00:33 Mallot1 *that
00:33 marktraceur *nod*
00:33 * Mallot1 eats you
00:33 * marktraceur invites Mallot1 to use their favourite search engine to find out about most of the nicks in the channel
00:33 khonkhortisan *you die... Would you like your possesions identified?
00:34 * Mallot1 declines
00:34 PilzAdam /me fails at /me ...
00:35 Mallot1 PilaAdam try /me :D
00:37 khonkhortisan /say fails at /say
00:37 Mallot1 ok
00:37 khonkhortisan /say succeeds at /say
00:37 marktraceur Ohh
00:37 marktraceur /say /say
00:37 PilzAdam m
00:37 Mallot1 im confused
00:37 khonkhortisan yeah
00:37 PilzAdam ooops
00:37 Mallot1 :D
00:38 marktraceur Maaa, aaaa, aaaa, aaaps, wait
00:38 * VanessaE warms up her kicking boots..
00:38 khonkhortisan can be used to say a chatcommand without the leading space or dot to cancel the slash
00:38 PilzAdam !op VanessaE
00:38 khonkhortisan VanessaE is warmed up further
00:38 kaeza banhammer incoming!
00:38 khonkhortisan hit the deck!
00:38 * khonkhortisan climbs under his desk
00:39 * kaeza ducks over a mountain
00:39 * VanessaE throws one of those boots at Mallot1
00:39 * MinetestBot grabs popcorn and sits down
00:39 * kaeza slaps PilzAdam for using !say
00:39 PilzAdam no u
00:39 PilzAdam !msg
00:40 * Mallot1 ducks with moves like jagger and takes popcorn back
00:40 Mallot1 was kicked by VanessaE:  *BAM!*
00:41 PilzAdam \o/
00:41 PilzAdam !deop VanessaE
00:41 VanessaE wtf is a jagger?
00:41 khonkhortisan a person
00:41 VanessaE oh, mick.
00:41 kaeza mick?
00:41 VanessaE meh.
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00:41 Mallot1 lol you win
00:41 Mallot1 igttg save the day
00:42 VanessaE I should kick just for the use of 'i' where 'I' is needed.
00:42 Mallot1 oops sorry
00:42 Mallot1 I got to go, i nust save the day in MineTest.
00:42 Mallot1 *must
00:42 VanessaE Minetest*
00:43 Mallot1 *Minetest
00:46 khonkhortisan 1441x901 I'll make someone think my screen is broken
00:46 marktraceur VanessaE: Might be a tad unfair. e.g. my left shift key has been only mildly functional of late.
00:46 marktraceur I sometimes miss the capitalisation accidentally.
00:47 VanessaE well exceptions could be made :)
00:48 marktraceur I somehow doubt the kicking needs are so high that you can't deal with it, though
00:49 VanessaE They're not.  I was only joking anyway :)
00:49 * PilzAdam start dubstep music and joins VanessaE's server
00:49 PilzAdam lets see if the admin pick respects node ownership....
00:49 Kacey lol i think i deserve a medal because i was afk for all of that
00:53 * VanessaE hands Kacey copper and silver ingots.  here, craft these into brass and make your own :P
00:54 * Kacey mines some gold
00:54 * Kacey has a skin that has a mithril crown
00:55 Kacey hey VanessaE, is the kitten generator still working?
00:55 VanessaE nope
00:56 Kacey can i haz it?
00:56 VanessaE nekogloop left, so it ran out of kalite ingots.  Needs to be redesigned to run on something more common.
00:56 VanessaE sure, over there in the closet under the stairs.
00:57 * Kacey sprints over to the closet
00:57 Kacey meh. it is too heavy for me to move. can i have the closet until it is finished?
00:57 VanessaE sure
00:57 Kacey alright
00:58 VanessaE /set_owner Kacey 1242,1,3245 1243,2,3246
00:58 * Kacey hides in the closet
00:59 VanessaE we're still working off of the pile of kittens that accumulated around it last time it was used.
00:59 VanessaE (they're like tribbles, they just keep multiplying)
00:59 Kacey There! it is now a lava generator that runs on kittens
01:01 VanessaE nooooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooOOooOOoooOOoOOoOOOo
01:01 VanessaE don't give Mallot1 any more lava to grief with! :)
01:01 Kacey lol
01:01 Kacey alright
01:01 * Kacey goes back to work
01:02 Kacey alright now it is an obsidian generator that runs off of lava and water!
01:03 PilzAdam VanessaE, FYI admin pick works in protected areas
01:03 PilzAdam you might want to replace that fence at spawn
01:03 * PilzAdam hides
01:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: I figured as much
01:04 Kacey naw... i need to get some supplies
01:04 * Kacey runs to his house
01:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, you use stu's model?
01:05 VanessaE yup
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01:09 PilzAdam your server is sooo laggy
01:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: what was the "uh oh" for?
01:09 VanessaE laggy?
01:09 VanessaE odd.
01:10 PilzAdam there was actually a "/me hides" following
01:10 VanessaE must be the ping time between here and you.
01:10 VanessaE yeah I saw it.
01:10 PilzAdam as a repsond to your "griefers message"
01:10 VanessaE oh haha
01:10 PilzAdam going to sleep now (its way too late again)
01:10 PilzAdam bye
01:10 VanessaE night
01:11 iqualfragile_ its just 3:10 am… i dont know what his problem is
01:13 kaeza dubstep
01:13 khonkhortisan > minetest\nterminate called after throwing an instance of 'SendFailedException'\n  what():  Failed to send packet\nAborted
01:14 Mallot1 lol what r u talking about VanessaE?
01:14 VanessaE Mallot1: nothing of importance.
01:14 Mallot1 ok
01:15 STHGOM who need a world to host?
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01:15 Mallot1 i do
01:16 Mallot1 i need a sever to host
01:16 Mallot1 serve
01:16 Mallot1 server
01:16 khonkhortisan You are the host, create a server.?
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01:17 STHGOM i mean what host need a server
01:18 Mallot1 idk
01:18 khonkhortisan I was responding to the response
01:18 Mallot1 what that  means
01:18 STHGOM i have an idea for a server that i have not seen in the forums and i have tried it locally
01:19 STHGOM but the idea requires 4+ people
01:19 khonkhortisan who has a map that they need to be put on a good computer on the internet so it isn't as laggy as when they run it themselves
01:19 VanessaE a minetest server only needs a box to run on and a reasonably snappy internet connection to pipe it through, and you probably already have both at your home
01:20 khonkhortisan I can't play minetest now
01:20 khonkhortisan I thought another game had blocked ports
01:21 STHGOM VanessaE: does 30 kB/s count
01:23 * Kacey returns to the closet with supplies
01:24 khonkhortisan ← 14ms ping, 17.49Mbps down, 4.47Mbps up
01:24 Kacey STHGOM, what is the idea?
01:24 khonkhortisan if we had a peer-to-peer minetest server system, the lag would go down
01:25 STHGOM hmm...
01:31 STHGOM I set up a world with the skins mod, made 5 different kind of skins to put on (Grey, Green, Blue, Red, and Yellow) and players could make their own team (and change their skins to the color of their team)
01:31 STHGOM with grey being no team
01:32 Kacey i would volunteer
01:32 Kacey but not this week
01:33 khonkhortisan I can't play
01:33 khonkhortisan SendFailedException
01:34 STHGOM and then i added mods like kaeza's bookex and Jelija's throwing mod
01:36 STHGOM and with so many simple mods you can make so many different different types of teams/contries
01:36 STHGOM ...but it need lot of people
01:39 hmmmmm cut my life into pizza
01:39 hmmmmm this is my plastic fork
01:40 hmmmmm oven baking
01:40 hmmmmm heavy breathing
01:40 hmmmmm don't give a fuck if it's carbs that i'm eating
01:40 STHGOM whaaaaaaa...?
01:41 Kacey heh
01:42 Kacey what is the original song called?
01:42 hmmmmm idk but it's papa roach
01:42 hmmmmm Last Resort
01:43 Kacey aah i knew it was papa roach
01:43 * Kacey emerges from the closet
01:43 Kacey there we go!
01:43 Kacey how does it look VanessaE?
01:44 khonkhortisan terminate called after throwing an instance of 'SendFailedException'
01:44 khonkhortisan what():  Failed to send packet
01:44 khonkhortisan Aborted
01:45 hmmmmm btw i'm sure you'll be happy vanessa, i'm adding an api to set mapgen flags at runtime
01:45 khonkhortisan > minetest
01:46 Kacey afk
01:46 STHGOM cya
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01:56 Kacey ack
01:56 Kacey back*
01:57 Kacey the kitten generator now works again only now it runs on bones!
01:59 kaeza ^ I could run it for 20000000 years with the amount of bones in my server :P
02:00 kaeza stupid griefers .-.
02:00 kaeza well, does not matter now. the server is gone
02:00 kaeza forevah!
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02:13 hdastwb First time on IRC! I hope that isn't too obvious…
02:13 Kacey lol it isnt
02:13 ShadowNinja Now it is. ;-)
02:13 Kacey welcome to this whacked up family of ours
02:15 khonkhortisan while (minetest crashes) do git checkout HEAD^ && sudo make -j3 install && minetest end
02:16 hdastwb have any of you tried growing pumpkins with the new minetest-game farming mod (and farming_plus of course)?
02:16 khonkhortisan I found the head on a stick and placed a scarecrow, never grew anything
02:16 hdastwb it seems there's a condition for turning soil under solid nodes (like pumpkins) back to dirt
02:17 hdastwb …making pumpkin farming really difficult
02:17 khonkhortisan the same way dirt removes its grass, it removes the tilling?
02:18 hdastwb it seems so
02:22 hdastwb is this pumpkin business better suited for #minetest-dev?
02:24 kaeza would be better to stick here
02:26 kaeza also, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93111#p93111
02:27 kaeza ah I see you commented there
02:27 kaeza nvm then
02:28 hdastwb I usually stick to the forums; I heard that more people actually pay attention to IRC, though…
02:28 khonkhortisan bisect has two steps left to find what is making the game unplayable
02:28 khonkhortisan blame comes soon
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02:32 Kacey hdastwb, i have never encountered this problem... and ShadowNinja and i farmed almost everything underground on Menche's server
02:32 Kacey remember ShadowNinja?
02:33 hdastwb before 0.4.7 though, right?
02:33 ShadowNinja Kacey: Yes. :-)
02:33 * Kacey wonders how that farm is doing now...
02:33 Kacey probably griefed to death
02:34 Kacey and my house is probably griefed also
02:34 hdastwb nope, your house still seems to be in perfect condition
02:34 Guest23549 It was protected
02:34 Kacey ooh ya that thing is protected beyond beliefe
02:35 Kacey or however you spell that
02:35 Kacey what about my castle?
02:35 hdastwb the spawn was griefed to death today though
02:35 Kacey it should be pretty griefed
02:35 hdastwb someone dumped lava all over it and then someone "fixed" it by dumping water on the lava
02:36 khonkhortisan If you have lava cooling, you need the special stones that go with it, so you're not worldediting out a bunch of default:stone
02:36 Kacey might have been Mallot1
02:36 Menche lol
02:36 Menche haven't been on today
02:36 hdastwb you might want to pay a visit…
02:37 ShadowNinja Somehow rollback works on lavacooling...
02:40 hdastwb I think there should be some way to make protection control buckets too, though it seems like there's not much in the way of good ways to make that work
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02:41 khonkhortisan Looks like minetest refuses to run because my computer is on IPv4 and the IPv6 test fails
02:42 hdastwb ouch
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03:00 * VanessaE peeks in
03:01 Mallot1 Menche get back here
03:01 Mallot1 tit wasnt me
03:01 VanessaE hmmmmm: honestly, I'd given up on that ages ago, but thanks anyway
03:01 Mallot1 ti fied it
03:01 Mallot1 lolol
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03:01 Mallot1 it was n
03:01 khonkhortisan I can't turn ipv6 off
03:01 Mallot1 so dont blame me,
03:02 hmmmmm VanessaE, just thought you would be interested.  i need a solution for that *right now* in order to get something else working the way it should
03:02 VanessaE I understand.
03:02 hmmmmm doing it really wasn't anywhere near as trivial as you might think it is
03:02 hmmmmm i need to add a new lua callback for it and everything
03:02 VanessaE actually I didn't expect it would be, since I don't know the engine as well as you
03:03 khonkhortisan commit f960c3be313c761fe02f9167dc1fe3fca5dc4ada and later, minetest.conf can have enable_ipv6 and ipv6_server = false, yet it still does terminate called after throwing an instance of 'SendFailedException'   what():  Failed to send packet Aborted
03:06 VanessaE hmmmmm: fwiw, regarding "Voxel Area Entities"...  someone figured that out already
03:06 hmmmmm "figured that out"
03:06 hmmmmm we don't need it "figured out", we need it done
03:06 VanessaE s/figured out/implemented/
03:06 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93484#p93484
03:06 VanessaE er, go to the first post of that thread.
03:07 hmmmmm umm..
03:07 Kacey VanessaE, i fixed the kitten generator to run on bones
03:07 hmmmmm that's nothing like what it's supposed to be
03:07 VanessaE Kacey: ah, well we sure have plenty of those around here. :)
03:08 Kacey exactly
03:09 VanessaE oh well.  I tried.
03:09 VanessaE I figured the existence of that mod would reduce the work required, to at least some degree.
03:18 VanessaE hmmmmm:  will it be possible to define multiple color palettes for use with the 8-color mode for that colorlike param type?  E.g. one node gets one palette, another node has a different palette, etc.
03:19 khonkhortisan fixme https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/793
03:19 VanessaE (the description suggests it could)
03:19 hmmmmm yes, that's the plan
03:19 VanessaE ok good
03:19 VanessaE then that's not so bad.
03:19 hmmmmm i believe i said this before
03:19 VanessaE you may have but I don't remember.
03:19 hmmmmm it'd reduce the number of nodes you'd have to define to 11
03:20 hmmmmm and that's only for things with facedir
03:20 VanessaE Well I'd do 12. one for each hue + colorlike to define the brightnesses
03:20 VanessaE but either way.
03:20 VanessaE right
03:21 hmmmmm honestly, i need RBA with me while i do this.. he needs to make sure all of the non-facedir bits are masked out
03:21 VanessaE also, somewhere along the way it was mentioned (don't see it in here) that 6dfacedir needs some extra help in node prediction.  Check out homedecor's glowlights for an Lua implementation that might be useful to that end.
03:21 VanessaE s/node prediction/rotation prediction/
03:21 VanessaE (whatever you wanna call it)
03:22 kahrl hmmmmm: should be a matter of looking at MapNode::getFaceDir
03:23 VanessaE calinou mentioned that one thing we need for that is another modifier key we can look for in Lua (e.g. control or alt or something) that can be used to, say, force wall placement where floor placement is indicated, vice versa, etc.
03:29 VanessaE (we use "sneak" for that now, but neither of us is too pleased with that method)
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03:45 Mallot1 hello D-Man :)
03:46 D-Man hello Mallot1 :)
03:56 Kacey really?
03:58 VanessaE really?
03:59 kaeza really?
04:00 * Kacey gets some old bones and feeds them to the kitten generator
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04:45 VanessaE zzz
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05:13 kaeza VanessaE, around?
05:14 VanessaE yeah
05:15 ShadowNinja Mallot1 == D-Man. Unless they share IPs and idents...  I wonder why two...
05:16 ShadowNinja Saying hello to yourself must be really fun..
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05:58 VanessaE bbl, bedtime.  I hope.
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07:23 duck_jam hi
07:23 duck_jam beeeeeeeeeep
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07:39 kaeza I always miss the fun :(
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08:28 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Industrial Workers of the World Day! :)
08:28 Calinou hi
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08:31 IBM5150PC Does anyone have graphical issues with Minetest?
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08:36 Nore Is the forum down?
08:37 Jordach Nore, 502 Bad Gateway
08:37 Jordach nginx/1.2.6
08:38 Nore Same.
08:38 Nore Do you know why?
08:39 Calinou IBM5150PC: what's your graphics card?
08:39 Jordach bad server network
08:39 Calinou forum is down, yeah
08:39 Calinou Nore: no idea
08:39 Jordach i've seen this before somewhere else
08:40 IBM5150PC Calinou: EVGA GeForce 210
08:40 Jordach there it is
08:40 Nore Do you know who hosts the forum?
08:40 Jordach thexyz does
08:40 Jordach hello VanessaE
08:40 Jordach IBM5150PC, is this a recent GPU
08:42 arsdragonfly *.minetest.net is down
08:42 Calinou Jordach: 210 is fairly old (2008)
08:42 Calinou and it's a shit-end card :P
08:43 Calinou understandable for using more than 2 screens, though
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08:46 IBM5150PC ...
08:47 IBM5150PC no help just because i use a budget GPU?
08:52 Jordach IBM5150PC, whats the Operating System
08:52 Jordach or: is the game appearing red
08:52 Jordach if the game is tinted RED, disable shaders from ther settings tab
08:52 IBM5150PC Jordach: the game is almost white
08:53 Jordach IBM5150PC, operating system
08:53 IBM5150PC openSUSE 12.3
08:53 Jordach IBM5150PC, is mesa installed?
08:53 IBM5150PC one moment
08:53 Jordach or just install the required dependancies
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08:54 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L86
08:54 Jordach and look at that line
08:54 Jordach you may also have not installed nvidia's drivers
08:54 Jordach they also cure this
08:55 IBM5150PC Jordach: Mesa is installed, Driver version is: 319.17_k3.7.10_1.1-12.1
08:55 Jordach OpenGL Ver:
08:56 Jordach (btw, this does happen on Windows too.)
08:58 IBM5150PC Jordach: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 319.17
08:58 Jordach do other games run like this?
08:58 IBM5150PC no
08:58 Jordach hm
08:58 Jordach sounds like irrlicht not liking hardware again
08:59 Jordach irrlicht is also buggy as fuck
09:01 Calinou you don't need mesa for nvidia driver
09:01 Calinou it uses its own accel
09:01 Calinou Jordach: it is not
09:01 Calinou IBM5150PC: does "glxgears" work?
09:01 Calinou it is in mesa-utils or something like that
09:01 IBM5150PC Calinou: yes
09:02 Calinou IBM5150PC: did you try disabling shaders in the settings menu?
09:02 arsdragonfly what about glxinfo | grep rendering
09:02 IBM5150PC Calinou: the main menu is white
09:03 Calinou oh
09:03 Calinou enable_shaders = 0
09:03 Calinou in minetest.conf
09:03 IBM5150PC arsdragonfly: direct rendering: Yes
09:03 IBM5150PC GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object2, GL_NV_path_rendering,
09:03 Calinou <IBM5150PC> no help just because i use a budget GPU? => *10s GPUs are not targeted at 3D at all :P
09:03 Calinou they can do it, but worse than today's IGPs
09:04 arsdragonfly does running it from terminal show any error messages?
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09:05 IBM5150PC http://pastebin.com/ALFkRdGQ
09:07 IBM5150PC ^ console output
09:08 Calinou pastebin: taking forever to load since 2002
09:08 Calinou doesn't even load
09:09 Calinou use http://paste.ubuntu.com :P
09:10 IBM5150PC http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804140/
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09:10 Jordach OpenGL driver version is not 1.2 or better.
09:12 Calinou weird
09:12 IBM5150PC I have no idea why MT reports 1.2 or less but glxinfo says 1.4
09:13 Jordach <Jordach> sounds like irrlicht not liking hardware again
09:13 Calinou there is GLSL and opengl
09:14 Calinou the 2xxs support opengl 3.3
09:14 arsdragonfly try comiling irrlicht from source
09:14 arsdragonfly and recompile minetest
09:14 Calinou TIL compiling irrlicht from source is easy
09:15 Calinou oh also, you need to link it
09:15 IBM5150PC minetest from a binary RPM
09:15 Calinou try compiling minetest from source
09:15 arsdragonfly oh
09:15 Calinou find a way to install deps [opensuse-shrug]
09:15 Calinou then compile it from latest git
09:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/g2Lroww.png
09:18 Calinou [insert brohoof pic here]
09:18 Calinou see, sam is in a brohoof position
09:24 Jordach TIL uploading with HTML5 doesn't lock files in windows.
09:25 Jordach oh, and: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ppb66hto3llddjw/rscred.ogg
09:25 Jordach identify if synths or actual instruments
09:26 Calinou actual instruments, tuba, akordeon and klein bottle
09:26 Jordach nope nope nope.
09:26 Jordach i used synths
09:26 Jordach i spend hours at a time with these
09:26 Jordach + 0% autotune
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09:28 arsdragonfly1 hey guys
09:28 arsdragonfly1 in lua, if multiple if ... else if are nested, is only one "end" needed?
09:30 Jordach you need to break each loop
09:33 Jordach Calinou, that also rendered at 420kbps
09:34 arsdragonfly1 no loops , just if condition statements
09:34 arsdragonfly1 seems vim's syntax highlighting is broken
09:35 Calinou arsdragonfly1: i'd say one "end"
09:35 Calinou try?
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09:36 arsdragonfly1 wrong
09:37 arsdragonfly1 Calinou: lua: luascratch.lua:8: 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 3) near '<eof>'
09:37 arsdragonfly1 well maybe that's intended, you don't want your "if" to be highlighted right after you type it in
09:39 Jordach Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/ei0tDRM.png
09:39 Jordach that's how complex my projects are
09:41 * Jordach is currently rendering
09:41 Calinou trackmania _o/
09:42 Jordach \o/
09:42 Jordach we have LAN parties over here
09:42 Calinou i'm ranked 3907 right now
09:42 Calinou 6th best player in my "departement" :D
09:42 Jordach (LAN parties are never perfect without RTS games, that's why Age of Mythology is there)
09:46 Jordach VLC does not support the audio or video format "MIDI". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
09:46 Jordach \O/
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09:55 * Calinou is now ranked 3806th
09:57 Jordach heh
09:57 Jordach im around 2.4milliom
09:57 Jordach million*
09:59 Calinou 3739th now
09:59 Calinou beat someone who was 1026th :P
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10:13 Jordach lol
10:18 Calinou forums work again, btw
10:19 Jordach ikr
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10:56 Jordach in the first 20 mins of minetest_plus, i've already got 120coal
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10:59 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96810#p96810
10:59 Calinou seems legit
11:00 Jordach it is: https://github.com/EPadronU/mmdl
11:01 Jordach Calinou, https://github.com/EPadronU/mmdl/blob/master/.mmdl/mods-list
11:08 john_minetest There could be a git repo that contains all mods. It would be much easier to find, download and update mods.
11:09 Jordach IMHO, Minetest_Plus is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY better than Minetest_Game
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11:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:12 Jordach PilzAdam, some parts if minetest_plus really need to be in minetest_Game
11:15 PilzAdam what parts?
11:15 Jordach the updated hand graphic, greener grass, better cacti, torch particles
11:18 PilzAdam what "better cacti"?
11:18 Jordach cacti have spikes
11:18 Jordach but not "your" spikes
11:18 Jordach eg, texture based spikes
11:19 PilzAdam oh, the commit log is just messed up
11:22 PilzAdam the "greener grass" is just personal preference, its not "better"; I dont really understand why everyone tries to make everything look not blocky (i.e. add spikes at the cactus), that doesnt really make sense in a voxel based game
11:22 Jordach cloned entity glitch ftw
11:22 Jordach i just made 5 diamomds
11:22 Exio cheater
11:22 Calinou give some to your wifi unicorn for better wifi range
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11:23 Jordach Calinou, funny. i dont use wifi
11:23 john_minetest "<Jordach> the updated hand graphic, greener grass [...]" -> The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence ;)
11:23 Zeg9 Hi
11:23 PilzAdam best spambot evar: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96842#p96842
11:23 Jordach john_minetest, in mt+, its always green
11:23 Zeg9 just saw it
11:23 Zeg9 sending the same  messages 4 times on the same topic...
11:23 Zeg9 -s
11:24 Jordach four in a row
11:24 Jordach HOLY DUCK
11:34 PilzAdam this is totally ontopic: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96834#p96834
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11:57 Jordach you know what i hate? those cave lakes
11:57 Jordach *dig dig dig* ahhh *splash*
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12:11 PilzAdam my wifi unicorn hates me :-/
12:15 arsdragonfly install drowning + finite liquid + fast flood
12:15 arsdragonfly +dig into an underground lake
12:16 PilzAdam "install drowning" <- wut?
12:20 arsdragonfly drowning the mod
12:28 PilzAdam why would you use the drowning mod?
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12:30 realbadangel hi folks
12:30 PilzAdam ^ fake :-p
12:31 RealBadAngel who?
12:31 PilzAdam realbadangel
12:32 RealBadAngel youre a fake :P ;)
12:32 RealBadAngel hi PA
12:32 PilzAdam hows the new flat?
12:32 RealBadAngel great, but still no cable there
12:32 RealBadAngel propably next week
12:33 RealBadAngel i can see some decoration stuff is here
12:34 RealBadAngel biomes revolution is close then?
12:34 Calinou arsdragonfly: there is drowning in default
12:35 Jordach RealBadAngel, btw, i've merged a few things that change the mod / fix a few things
12:35 RealBadAngel yeah i saw it
12:35 RealBadAngel i need to merge indev, master and game changes
12:36 Jordach yeah
12:36 Jordach sounds like a plan
12:36 RealBadAngel and lotsa code i made when was cut off
12:36 Jordach PilzAdam, how usable is MGV7
12:37 PilzAdam what do you expect as an answer?
12:37 RealBadAngel i made configuration in-game, for textures, sounds and other parts
12:37 Jordach PilzAdam, i mean as a "whole"
12:37 RealBadAngel also all formspecs are now UI style
12:37 PilzAdam it compiles and it outputs nodes
12:38 Jordach RealBadAngel, stargate should really be powered by HV cable
12:38 RealBadAngel we need HV stuff first
12:38 RealBadAngel thats why i left it without crafting recipes
12:40 RealBadAngel but first i think MV tier shall be completed
12:41 RealBadAngel then we should go for nuclear reactor
12:42 RealBadAngel also i was thinkin about renaming mithril to naquadah
12:43 RealBadAngel mithril is more like LOTR, naquadah is more SG1 and technic
12:44 RealBadAngel and natural resource for Stargates is naquadah
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13:25 * arsdragonfly1 found a bug in money mod
13:25 arsdragonfly1 linuxgaming server has this mod installed
13:26 arsdragonfly1 dunno if it is a good idea to test it there
13:35 OldCoder I should be online for the day starting in a couple of hours
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13:56 Jordach hello LazyJ
13:56 LazyJ Howdy :)
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13:57 LazyJ Do "dropped items" (or whatever the correct term for them is) have a significant impact on the server performance?
13:58 PilzAdam depends on the usage
13:58 LazyJ 15 players in-game, at most.
13:58 LazyJ The spawn area seems to be more prone to lag, where outer areas not as much.
14:00 LazyJ I know there are many contributing factors to lag. I'm hoping we can help a little by clearing out junk.
14:00 LazyJ However, the server is 0.4.6 vintage.
14:01 LazyJ An upgrade to 0.4.7 is not likely to happen soon as the person who pays for the server is a busy man.
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14:12 sfan5 hallow
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14:23 arsdragonfly|pho hi
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15:12 john_minetest lol, i left my computer running
15:14 Jordach i'm getting an error here
15:14 Jordach there is 1000+ entities
15:14 Jordach which dont exist
15:15 PilzAdam *are
15:18 Jordach running clearobjects
15:18 Jordach WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=200 not found
15:18 Jordach WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=201 not found
15:18 Jordach uhoh
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15:35 Kacey good morning!
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15:39 hmmmm hahaha http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ericfitz/archive/2011/08/22/off-topic-unicode-right-to-left-override-character-used-by-malware.aspx
15:42 john_minetest lol. I could imagine my brother executing it. Maybe he already did...
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15:45 john_minetest Is minecart in default minetest_game?
15:45 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
15:45 VadtecWk Kacey, sorry i missed you again yesterday, work was a bitch
15:45 PilzAdam Jordach, nope
15:46 PilzAdam john_minetest*
15:46 VadtecWk Kacey, you ever get setup to compile with mingw?
15:46 john_minetest PilzAdam: Then what are the rails used for?
15:46 PilzAdam proof of concept of the railliek drawtype ;-)
15:47 PilzAdam *raillike
15:47 john_minetest Minecart should be in minetest_game.
15:47 john_minetest Maybe also boat.
15:47 PilzAdam boats are too laggy, even in singleplayer
15:47 Jordach advanced civilisations in minetest get minecarts
15:48 Kacey VadtecWk, idk
15:50 john_minetest Mesecons and minecarts can be found on nearly every server. So it would make sense to include them in default game. Mesecons maybe only a slim version to make the download faster.
15:50 VadtecWk Kacey, you want some help with it?
15:51 Kacey later
15:51 VadtecWk ok, maybe, today is turning into a cluster ******* of a day
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15:53 Calinou \o/ someone vandalized my minecraft wiki user talk page
15:53 VadtecWk that just means they love you
15:59 khonkhortisan I'm not on an operating system that gives any importance to file extension. The file type is all that matters, the extension is only a hint.
16:00 Jordach btw, minetest+ is awesome
16:00 Jordach its minetest_game without the bullshitty crap PilzAdam puts in
16:02 thexyz oh, i get it
16:02 thexyz it's cool now to hate PilzAdam
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16:10 Jordach PilzAdam, how does one make bread in minetest_game
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16:15 Calinou thexyz: just like canonical
16:15 Calinou PilzAdam is the local Mark Shuttleworth :)
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16:18 yvand hi all
16:18 yvand I had a problem with mesecons not being load after minetest update
16:19 yvand I fixed it with moving ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/mesecons to ~/.minetest/mods/mesecons
16:19 yvand and enable it
16:20 yvand Just to inform you that http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_mods is outdated ! I use it to see if the mods folder changed
16:20 yvand but this page was based on older minetest version
16:21 yvand same applied to http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mods
16:21 yvand Thank you gays for this pretty software
16:21 yvand bb
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16:22 Calinou updated
16:24 Calinou "gays" lol'd
16:38 Jordach Calinou, how do you make bread in minetest_game
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16:43 Calinou Jordach: cook flour
16:43 Calinou you make flour by putting 4 wheat in crafting grid
16:43 Calinou (any shape)
16:43 john_minetest VanessaE: The spawn on your server is flooded with lava.
16:44 khonkhortisan You should get a crafting guide mod
16:46 VanessaE DominikSo did it.
16:46 * Jordach smells BanHammer
16:47 Jordach VanessaE, remove damage from lava
16:47 khonkhortisan then it would be harder to make a trap
16:47 Jordach use pits
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16:48 frogcrush Lava swimming pool?
16:50 VanessaE now to scroll back and read, which I didn't get a chance to do yet :)
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17:01 VanessaE ok, back.
17:01 VanessaE hi all! :D
17:01 Kacey hi v
17:01 VanessaE I see RBA's still alive, and without internet at home :-/
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17:02 Jordach VanessaE, blockmen's minetest+ is awesome
17:03 Jordach im also using casimir's mapgen settings
17:03 VanessaE what's so different between it and minetest_game?
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17:03 Jordach a lot
17:03 Jordach it doesnt feel as crap as what PilzAdam made it
17:05 VanessaE that's a bit subjective isn't it?
17:05 VanessaE what does one do that the other doesn't?
17:05 Jordach Minetest+ has hunger, greener grass, semi-transparent glass, cacti with non nodebox spikes
17:05 Jordach just look at the game page
17:06 VanessaE I will shortly.
17:06 Jordach it also has Sam's arm as wieldhand.png
17:06 khonkhortisan ^ I never really noticed it didn't
17:06 Jordach furnaces also make flame particles
17:10 VanessaE he should make furnaces also create smoke particles out the top (and replace the top texture with a flue) so I don't have to :P
17:10 Jordach heh
17:10 Jordach do so
17:10 Jordach lets make mt+ better
17:11 VanessaE I won't bother.
17:11 Jordach iirc, he was open to suggestions and pull requests
17:11 VanessaE if I do it, it'll be part of a mod.
17:11 VanessaE oh make "mt+" better
17:11 VanessaE I read that as "make mt better" (no +)
17:11 * Jordach hands VanessaE her reading glasses
17:12 VanessaE :P
17:12 Jordach its the game we know, without the bullshit
17:12 khonkhortisan the smoke should come out the front, and go past what's in the furnace for flavour
17:13 VanessaE well when I build the game on my server, I use a script to do it, which undoes a few things in minetest_game and overrides a few other things.
17:13 Jordach aw man, out of sand for glass
17:13 VanessaE so I never see vanilla minetest_game except when testing changes to one of my mods.
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17:18 Jordach im done with mining for today
17:19 Jordach did a total of 13 hours
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18:08 john_minetest VanessaE: Did you read my message that there is lava at your server's spawn?
18:08 VanessaE john_minetest: already took care of it.  DominikSo did it, and has been banned.
18:09 VanessaE I should just remove buckets from the inventory, since they can operate on owned land (versus sources, which are placed like any other block)
18:12 john_minetest VanessaE: Btw, I am just building a track to the rollercoaster and need privs to build the track on that area.
18:12 VanessaE oh sure
18:13 LazyJ Ice from Splizard's snow mod can be used to substitute water buckets.
18:13 VanessaE if I can remember where the hell the roller coaster is :D
18:14 LazyJ So if buckets were disabled again, at least players could place water but not lava.
18:14 VanessaE LazyJ: this server has the default ice blocks but I don't think they melt
18:14 LazyJ Aye, I've tested that.
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18:15 VanessaE ah here it is.
18:15 LazyJ The ice from Splizard's mod do melt but that would mean either allowing the snow fall and biomes to generate or disabling most of the code and leave only the melting ice as an alternative to having buckets.
18:17 LazyJ I use the snow mod in my singleplayer worlds and have, on more than one occasion, regretted having the falling snow.
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18:19 VanessaE john_minetest: give me a minute to figure out the coordinates that need tweaked.
18:21 VanessaE john_minetest: ok, I've raised the floor of the protected area up to 0m, so you can build under it.
18:21 thexyz oh, russia http://cdn1.vesti.ru/p/b_790926.jpg
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18:22 Mallot1 hello :D
18:22 Mallot1 im starting modding now
18:22 john_minetest VanessaE: I have a bad connection atm so I can't build properly but I will join in 1 hour. thx
18:22 VanessaE ok
18:22 Mallot1 what does it mean when it says that minetest failed to load ur mods init.lua file?
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18:23 Menche did it say any more than that?
18:23 Mallot1 hello hdastwb
18:23 hdastwb hello
18:23 Mallot1 menche ill check
18:24 Kacey there has to be s0mething in init.lua
18:24 hdastwb I've just finished submitting pull requests to add an exception for not reverting soil under pumpkins to dirt
18:25 Mallot1 ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Users\(myname)\Documents\SDCard stuff\Minetest\Versions\minetest-0.4.7\bin\..\mods\tutorial\init.lua
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18:26 Menche is there a .txt extension that windows is hiding?
18:26 Mallot1 I dont tbink so
18:26 Mallot1 *think
18:26 Menche windows tends to hide extensions
18:27 Mallot1 i put a depends file in there but its blank
18:27 hdastwb at least it isn't the space in the path…
18:28 Menche what version of windows do you have?
18:28 khonkhortisan every time I sit in front of a windows I turn on extensions, change it to single-click to open, show hidden system files
18:28 Mallot1 Windows 98
18:29 Mallot1 just kidding i have Windows8
18:29 hdastwb here I thought my Windows 7 installation was getting outdated…
18:29 Mallot1 :3
18:29 Mallot1 i have Windows 8
18:30 Kacey windows 8 is pretty fun once you get used to it
18:30 hdastwb That make sense; if you did have Windows 98 the path would have been more like C:\Documents and Settings\(myname)\My Documents\…
18:31 Mallot1 kacey: got that right :D
18:31 Menche you should make sure windows isn't hiding important file extensions
18:31 Mallot1 i used the modding tutorial: http://dev.minetest.net/Intro#Path_of_User_Data
18:31 Kacey the live tiles leave something to be desired
18:32 Mallot1 for the decowood
18:32 Menche idk about windows 8, but on 7 it is Control Panel -> Appearance and Personalization -> Folder Options -> View tab -> uncheck "hide file extensions"
18:32 Kacey what does the icon look like? for the lua file
18:33 khonkhortisan like a luacontroller
18:33 Mallot1 http://pastebin.com/EKGEJhnp
18:33 hdastwb you could always navigate to the directory in cmd and use dir…
18:33 Mallot1 ill send the image
18:33 Mallot1 https://raw.github.com/Jeija/minetest-modding-tutorial/master/textures/tutorial_decowood.png
18:34 Mallot1 OHH!!!
18:34 Mallot1 i have a period instead of a comma
18:35 Mallot1 its fixed B)
18:35 Mallot1 thnkyou guys
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18:36 Menche argh, windows suddenly is insisting that it's counterfeited
18:37 Kacey no khonkhortisan, windows 8 has an icon for files like .lua and such. mine looks like the n++ icon but they should be a notepad over a plain document looking thing
18:37 Mallot1 menche, me and beast and whiteMuffin want to know if we can be moderators
18:37 khonkhortisan save a .lua file, then you'll find it?
18:38 Mallot1 ngand can on yesterday and lavaed the spawn so we put it out.
18:38 Kacey Mallot1, i was and still am the original moderator for that server. i have just stopped playing on it for a bit
18:39 Mallot1 khonkhortisan, ifixed the problem i put a period insted of a comma
18:39 Mallot1 can we be moderators to?
18:41 Menche lol, lavacooling makes things worse
18:42 Menche the spawn is encased in a block of stone
18:42 VanessaE Why does everyone have to ask to be a mod/admin/etc on a server?  jeez
18:42 Kacey Menche, i am getting on... but my internet is lagging baaaaaaaaaaaad
18:42 Mallot1 i tryed to throw my bones onto the lava source but i missed and they colled it with water
18:43 Mallot1 *cooled
18:43 VanessaE had one guy show up on mine a while back, posing as 0gb.us but with the name slightly misspelled (because the real 0gb.us is already registered), asking immediately to be an admin
18:43 Menche Kacey: you're taking a while to log on
18:43 Mallot1 lol
18:43 Kacey laggy internet
18:44 hdastwb muffin is definitely not going to be a moderator; he barely escaped being banned by virtue of Menche being such a nice guy
18:44 Kacey almost there
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18:44 Kacey i think i banned like 4 people for annoying me
18:44 Menche VanessaE: on a server i hosted for someone, someone logged on with some variation of sfan5's name and requested privs
18:44 Menche the admin gave him worldedit
18:44 Menche never seen so much lava...
18:45 Menche lol
18:45 VanessaE oh jeez
18:46 VanessaE for me it's exactly the opposite - only I have admin privs, and the couple of times I've offered to someone else (because I kinda need help), they've declined (!)
18:46 Mallot1 that was 222jkm
18:46 Mallot1 i think
18:47 Mallot1 222jkm can in and broke into buildings with a diamond pickaxe
18:47 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I would accept //fixlight if it was a separare privilage
18:47 Mallot1 *came
18:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan: oh sure, I give you //fixlight and next thing I know, all the damn lighting will be fixe....oh, wait. :D
18:48 khonkhortisan hehe
18:50 khonkhortisan suparare
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18:57 hdastwb //fixlight? We just planted jungle trees all over the place to fix the lighting…
18:57 john_minetest Obey the cat lord: http://i.imgur.com/otJGk.gif
18:58 VanessaE heh
18:58 VanessaE john_minetest: all glory to the hypno...er...cat?
18:59 john_minetest This cat is so cuuuu - MUST OBEY
19:00 john_minetest The gif uses dithering if I see this correctly
19:01 frogcrush Funkidelic kitty
19:02 LazyJ I've noticed the //fixlight produces a tremendous amount of log lines. The old //dig command produced the same.
19:02 LazyJ The log files have quickly ballooned to 35mb when I've used those commands.
19:03 LazyJ But, fixlight is much faster and more wide reaching than planting a tree.
19:03 LazyJ And there are times when there isn't enough space for a tree to fit.
19:05 LazyJ Hehehe... Dear Cat doesn't have psychedelic rainbows shooting from her paws. She just yells at human oaf servant. :)-
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19:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: no way to delete an entry from future_ban ?
19:09 khonkhortisan boo the rainbow jumps between paws
19:10 khonkhortisan Someone recreate that with a correct two-source rainbow
19:10 PilzAdam back
19:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, hm?
19:13 LazyJ Besides deleting an entry from future_ban (without shutting down the server), boolean characters would help keep some pests out.
19:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: future_ban is yours, right?
19:17 PilzAdam nope.avi
19:17 PilzAdam or, at least I cant remember
19:17 VanessaE oops, that's cactuz_pl
19:18 VanessaE but he cites you ads the author.
19:18 VanessaE as*
19:18 PilzAdam where?
19:18 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=60532#p60532
19:18 VanessaE pointed to indirectly from, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4268
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19:19 * VanessaE pokes kaeza
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19:19 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> or, at least I cant remember
19:19 VanessaE hence. :)
19:19 kaeza ow
19:20 kaeza hi all
19:20 PilzAdam I always asked myself who actually created the "future ban" mod everyone was talking about...
19:20 LazyJ May be redundant but here is a pastebin of the future_ban code:
19:20 LazyJ http://pastebin.com/ySFxE9q8
19:26 sfan5 Menche: which variaton?
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19:30 Menche ?
19:33 duck_jam all the single ladies
19:33 Menche windows suddenly decided that it was pirated and wants me to re-buy it
19:35 VanessaE Menche: which is why I will never touch Windows again if I can possibly avoid it.
19:35 duck_jam woah
19:35 Jordach Menche, theres an old friend known as windows loader
19:36 Menche i use it for, uh... let me think... oh, i need it for itunes
19:36 Menche nothing else :P
19:36 Jordach Menche, i use iTunes too
19:36 Jordach fuck Apple
19:36 Kacey i need windows for school
19:36 Jordach i need windows because LibreOffice doesn't have the awesome grammar checks of word
19:36 VanessaE I thought people had already figured out itunes on linux et.al?
19:37 LazyJ I remember switching to Linux after installing a new cpu chip provoked Windows to shut down until I called a guy in India at 2am and begged for a 48 (?) long line of numbers to reauthorize the copy I bought a few years prior. :/
19:37 Jordach VanessaE, nope, they keep changing the sync format
19:37 Menche itunes doesn't work in wine
19:37 VanessaE (fuck itunes.  get your music from youtube and use avidemux to rip it)
19:37 sokomine i'm wondering...worldedit has this nice markers. why don't we use them in all those protection mods? fiddling with coordinates is always annoying and at least confusing for players...
19:37 Menche libimobiledevice hasn't worked for me for a while
19:37 Jordach VanessaE, im no pirate
19:37 Jordach <- funny
19:37 Jordach + irony
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19:37 VanessaE sokomine: node_ownership badly needs a "tell me who owns the spot I'm on and what entry number it is" command
19:38 Menche sokomine: i agree
19:38 sokomine vanessa: i usually carry torches for that purpose
19:39 LazyJ And one misplaced digit can cause hours of work correcting the mistake.
19:39 VanessaE sokomine: doesn't help if you're the admin :D
19:39 sokomine the protector-mod on menches server has a special test-tool
19:39 VanessaE (because in my fork, the admin has build rights everywhere)
19:39 sokomine yes, i suppose admins have a hard time with that :-)
19:39 Menche i believe that one was by glomie
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19:39 * Menche just discovered that the admin can dig in protected areas WHEN HOLDING SHIFT
19:39 Menche not sure why that is required
19:40 sokomine ah. practical
19:40 sokomine menche: on redcrabs server, there are many dropped sand and gravel nodes (dropped and placed due to a bug - players where standing there while others digged the sand). wish i would be able to clean them up
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19:43 sokomine menche: on your server, i think the protector mod isn't bad. there arn't that many huge buildings. most houses are rather small (but well done and nice). that works well with the protector mod. node_ownership is much more useful if you have larger buildings
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19:43 sokomine maybe for that town from the old map it would be great
19:45 VanessaE sokomine: clearobjects works now on 0.4.7, you can just nuke them that way if you have to.
19:49 LazyJ VanessaE, do you have a moment for a land claim on your server?
19:49 VanessaE sure.
19:49 LazyJ What info do you require?
19:49 * LazyJ facepalms...coords.
19:50 sfan5 <Menche> Vane ssaE: on a server i hosted for someone, someone logged on with some variation of sfan5's name and requested privs
19:50 sfan5 ^ Menche
19:50 VanessaE LazyJ: mark the corners with yellow wool
19:50 LazyJ Ok, will do.
19:51 Menche he just used like "SFan5" as his username
19:51 VanessaE or do you just mean this narrow stripe with the two houses and grey brick road?
19:51 sfan5 lol
19:52 Menche my windows installation is randomly disabling some updates
19:53 Menche and it keeps changing my wallpaper
19:53 PilzAdam Menche, do you have "slideshow" enabled? :-p
19:53 Menche no
19:54 Menche it keeps turning it plain black
19:54 LazyJ Ok, VanessaE.
19:54 LazyJ Sorry, I was chatting too much to think of placing blocks.
19:54 LazyJ If it helps:  SW corner  -1475,X,-1534
19:55 LazyJ NE corner  -1100,X,-1100
19:55 LazyJ Give or take the customary easement and size.
19:56 LazyJ I've place yellow wool pillars in the opposing corners.
19:56 LazyJ Or do you need all 4 corners?
19:57 VanessaE no worries, I've got it under control now
19:57 VanessaE brb
19:59 VanessaE LazyJ: done.  -1483,0,-1539 to -1000,+100,-1000
19:59 VanessaE (puts it right up to the edges of the neighboring roads)
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20:01 Kacey bbl
20:03 LazyJ Ok, thank you very much, VanessaE. :)
20:03 khonkhortisan why does it move the selectionbox before placing a node?
20:03 Mallot1 whats wrong with this Lua? http://pastebin.com/0hfJGND0
20:04 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, hm?
20:04 PilzAdam you mean you see the selectionbox first after placing a node?
20:05 Mallot1 me?
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20:18 PilzAdam Mallot1, you messed the register_craft() types up
20:19 Mallot1 how can i fix it?
20:20 PilzAdam you can find the correct usage here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
20:21 VanessaE bbl
20:25 Mallot1 PilzAdam: it says it cant open the image
20:32 Mallot1 whats wrong with register_craft?
20:34 kaeza Mallot1, uhh... it means it can't open the image
20:34 kaeza are you sure you wrote the name correctly?
20:35 Calinou hi LazyJ
20:35 LazyJ Howdy, Calinou :)
20:36 LazyJ Miner passed on your compile tip to increase MT's language abilities.
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20:37 Calinou LazyJ: btw, misa pack was recently updated
20:37 Calinou added drowning bubble, removed simplemobs textures, partial moretrees support
20:37 LazyJ Ah, wonderful!
20:38 LazyJ Aye, moretrees and plantlife are staples in my singleplayer worlds.
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20:39 LazyJ Orby has concerns about video memory being exceeded by big mods like moreblocks and homedecor.
20:39 Calinou moreblocks?
20:39 Calinou nope
20:39 Calinou that mod adds few decorative blocks
20:39 LazyJ I don't understand it but he does. Is it just due to the shear amount of block types added?
20:39 Calinou VRAM is only used if you generate previews
20:40 Calinou I highly doubt you will see ALL the stair types
20:40 sokomine perhaps. i eventually disabled prelod_items_visual. that had the nice side effect of speeding up load of the world and finally showing me inventory images for wool - something previously never worked
20:40 LazyJ I would like to have moreblocks updated on our server, but my code savvy isn't enough to counter Orby's concerns.
20:41 Calinou LazyJ: no card with a decent GPU has less than 512MB of VRAM today
20:41 Calinou 512MB will be enough for 1920×1080 without AA, even with a large amount of nodes
20:41 LazyJ Aye, I don't use preload for the same reasons, Sokomine.
20:44 Calinou using preload is stupid, TBH :P
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20:45 LazyJ Some people like to see a progress bar, or something spinning, or blocks flashing by, to give them a sense that the program *is* loading and hasn't just been hung.
20:46 LazyJ Most would be Windows folk as they don't have a terminal to keep an eye on things.
20:46 LazyJ At least that is this knuckledragger's guess.
20:46 kahrl installing gentoo is always fun
20:46 kahrl now I'm mucking about with the grub2 source code to see where it hangs
20:47 Calinou suddenly: xubuntu
20:47 Calinou LazyJ: there is a progress bar when joining servers now
20:48 sokomine hi kahrl
20:48 LazyJ Hehehe... yeah. I watch the bar crawl after each new compile of MT on my computer.
20:49 kahrl hi sokomine
20:49 LazyJ "Media" is usually were the progress slows.
20:49 harrison my new film has hello kitty
20:50 * LazyJ facepalms... too much chat, no download of Misa update.
20:51 LazyJ Will any cheap pair of red/blue 3D glasses work when the anaglyph option is in minetest.conf?
20:51 LazyJ Or do I need the red/green glasses?
20:53 Calinou red/cyan
20:53 Calinou but the effect isn't realistic at all, and makes colors completely false
20:53 Calinou I suggest not using anaglyph
20:53 Calinou harrison: S/hello kitty/my little pony
20:53 Calinou FTFY
20:55 kaeza sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `S'
20:56 Calinou I'm used to jenn1
20:56 Calinou where you need to use S and not s
20:56 ShadowNinja You are still missing the trailing '/'.
20:57 Calinou who uses these today ;_;
20:57 Calinou again, jenn1 does not need these :P
20:57 Calinou as long as people understand me :P
20:57 Calinou I'm not going to say "replace x with y in harrison's sentence"
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21:22 john_minetest found a book from 1978 about microprocessors. lmao.
21:22 john_minetest "There are video games on the market, but these are often movement games where, by pressing buttons and switches, a illuminated dot is moved over the screen, making a game similar to tennis. These are also built with microprocessors. In the future there might me MUCH MORE extensive video games where the player can actually play against the device. It doesn't have to be something difficult like a
21:22 john_minetest chess game but there are a lot of games thinkable where the computer can be the opponent."
21:23 john_minetest Something "difficult like a chess game". As if this was a nearly unthinkable thing. And today we play Battlefield or COD with advanced AI. Lol.
21:23 * PilzAdam dreams of a world where humans can play chess against computers...
21:24 LazyJ And dare to imagine what our grandkids will think of our "quaint" computers and programs.
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21:26 john_minetest PilzAdam: Yeah. And imagine that they could do it better than we do...
21:27 john_minetest But until this it is surely about 100 years. (No, it was 18 years.)
21:28 john_minetest 1996 IBM's deep blue won against the chess master, one year later it won the championship.
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21:36 khonkhortisan the next unthinkable difficult thing is a game that is visually indistinguishable from real life
21:36 khonkhortisan *unthinkably
21:37 khonkhortisan What would a contraption that locks someone's head the same way the minetest player's is look like?
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21:41 STHGOM wb
21:42 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2#Specifications
21:49 Mallot1 thanks kaeza
21:49 kaeza np :)
21:49 Mallot1 what does snappy, and choppy mean? :p
21:50 kaeza they are groups
21:50 kaeza they have to do with what tools can be used to break it
21:51 Mallot1 oh
21:51 Mallot1 whats a snappy tool?
21:53 kaeza I'm not very sure, but I think 'snappy' is for things like pickaxes
21:53 Mallot1 hey  and choppy? maybe like axes?
21:54 john_minetest khonkorisan: I'm sure with some work minetest could use the oculus rift
21:58 kaeza Dan Duncombe: Y U NO PUT REPLY AFTER THE QUOTE??
22:33 * john_minetest is listening to different Zelda soundtrack dubstep remixes
22:38 Mati^1 joined #minetest
22:38 * Mallot1 loves dubstep
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22:47 TheWarrior hi?
22:47 TheWarrior Anybody here?
22:47 TheWarrior bhdghjdgujy
22:48 Mallot1 hi
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22:52 Mallot1 hihihi
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23:04 Mallot1 i hope you're the real kaeza :P
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23:05 the_real_kaeza now I am :)
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23:05 Mallot1 :D thats better lol
23:05 Mallot1 seems legit
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23:06 STHGOM if a server has a texture pack and a player joins, the player will see the texture pack right?
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23:06 Mallot1 i think so
23:07 Mallot1 but the player can also change their tecture pack as well :)
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23:12 Menche my server was a ghost town when it wasn't on the server list
23:13 Menche now it is and there are 12 players on
23:13 Menche lol
23:13 Exio minetest is awesome, isn't it! :P
23:15 Menche does anyone even look for servers in the servers forum now?
23:15 Exio what is the forum
23:15 Exio </random-and-casual-user>
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23:22 hdastwb </core-dev>
23:32 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrOeD53Jlpw
23:33 harrison finest film of spasim yet
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23:35 Mallot1 What is it?
23:37 harrison the answer depends on if you like it
23:38 Mallot1 it was wierd but cool
23:38 harrison if you like it, it is a realtime fractal-voxel raytracer
23:38 harrison do you have a linux box?
23:38 Mallot1 no i have windows8
23:38 harrison carry on
23:38 harrison and thx
23:38 Mallot1 lol
23:39 Mallot1 ur welcome :D
23:41 hdastwb my, my this here Anakin guy; he'll be Vader someday later, now he's just a small fry…

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