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01:03 Exio VanessaE: hmm
01:03 VanessaE hm?
01:03 Exio [20:47:16] <VanessaE> ok I've officially decided:  irrlicht 1.8 sucks.
01:03 Exio why? :P
01:03 VanessaE because it's slower and it makes minetest water glitchy.
01:14 PilzAdam bye
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01:49 beez anyone remember which mod hold the face player lines, i need to borrow the face player but i forget how its phrased in this...
01:50 kaeza face?
01:50 VanessaE face player lines?
01:51 VanessaE maybe he means the player model?
01:51 kaeza may be
01:51 OldCoder Hi. I'm getting massive crashes in my worlds related to 4seasons and riventest
01:51 OldCoder Which I don't recall hearing of
01:52 OldCoder I have not done updates... Does anybody recognize these names?
01:52 VanessaE haven't used those mods, but 4seasons is generally considered outdated I'd think.
01:52 VanessaE riventest, no idea.
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01:52 OldCoder Started with migration... some sort of CPU incompatibility
01:52 OldCoder odd
02:01 sokomine there ought to be no crashes due to 4seasons, but it's not used much anymore. iirc it was lag that led to its removal on the kingarthur server. it was a nice mod
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02:06 beez oh shit. i mean like, how when you place a furnace it looks at you on initial place. but i remember you could have them aim up also
02:07 VanessaE that's facedir.
02:07 VanessaE and it's part of the API, many mods can do that.
02:07 VanessaE you probably wanna use the screwdriver
02:08 beez i was wondering where to find that line, thanks
02:08 beez facedir = true?
02:09 beez or more complex?
02:09 VanessaE more complex
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02:09 VanessaE paramtype2 = "facedir", then you set param2 = somevalue when you add a node.
02:10 VanessaE e.g.  minetest.add_node(pos, {name="default:furnace", param2 = 3})
02:10 VanessaE there's some basic prediction for facedir already, so stuff will usually at least turn to face you on placement anyway
02:10 beez thanks
02:11 beez but i am remaking my personal mod that allows logs to be placed sideways
02:11 beez like minecraft
02:11 VanessaE right
02:11 beez except i had the idea before notch
02:11 beez or was it jeb?
02:11 VanessaE for that (which btw moreblocks has already), you'd use param2 = ....um...  either 0 or 5 I think.
02:11 Exio jeb probably
02:11 beez i think it was 0
02:12 VanessaE dunno, but calinou beat you to it already :)
02:12 beez well i am trying to make my self a full mod for my own use. stuff like this is practice
02:12 VanessaE no prob
02:12 Exio i understand
02:12 VanessaE that's a good start anyway
02:12 Exio trying to do something just for learning :P
02:12 * Exio is using minetest for learning C++
02:12 kaeza most of the (basic) stuff from MC has already been copied to MT
02:12 beez more remembering
02:13 Exio i'm used to C
02:13 kaeza s/copied/"ported"/
02:13 beez i worked on this stuff months ago
02:13 VanessaE kaeza: and some stuff in MT got stolen into MC :)
02:13 beez but then left
02:13 Exio VanessaE: nah
02:13 Exio it is called, doing the right way ;P
02:13 VanessaE heh
02:13 Exio and for now, the "mod api" of minetest
02:13 Exio is amazinly amazing
02:14 beez :P
02:17 beez the dam thing is locked... idk what i did wrong...
02:19 beez hmmm
02:20 Exio don't add more m(s) ;P
02:20 beez paramtype2 = "facedir", seems to make it face me but the cut on the log ALWAYS faces up/down
02:21 VanessaE beez, to make it horizontal you'll have to set the facedir manually via the on_place function
02:21 beez wish i had my code from before
02:21 VanessaE or you'll have to define a log that's already rotated (that can be done by referencing the default tree textures and using ^[transformR90 where necessary)
02:22 beez hmm... might just make a sideways log as its own item
02:23 VanessaE that's the easiest way
02:25 beez sucks that i cant make a block that has the vert and horizontal ability easy
02:25 beez i had one, but idk how i did it
02:25 beez was under 6 lines
02:25 VanessaE you can, you have to hook into the on_place= handler (or after_place_node will work too)
02:25 beez hmm
02:26 beez r90...
02:27 beez ^[transformR90] the way to say it?
02:27 VanessaE tiles = { ...... , "default_tree.png^[transformR90" , ..... }
02:27 VanessaE (no closing ] as [ is not an opener)
02:28 beez and now i have a working sideways log
02:28 beez thanks 100x
02:28 VanessaE np.
02:29 beez now to muck about with other stuff
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02:42 MrEldritch Could somebody explain the LGPL to me? I'm running off of insufficient sleep, insufficient food, and illness, and right now I just don't have the neural processing cycles to understand legalese.
02:44 VanessaE no idea.
02:44 VanessaE except I guess you can link your commercial project to an LGPL library and sell the resultant package as long as follow the usual provisions ofr sharing the LPGL'd source.
02:46 MrEldritch I'd been thinking of opening MineTest up and looking at how it handles a lot of stuff, but I was afraid ithat any code I would produce would look too similar and that in the (extremely unlikely) event I got something good enough to be commercial that I would end up going the same way as Infiniminer.
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02:56 MrEldritch Hello!
02:57 kaeza hi
02:58 MrEldritch By the way, I haven't been keeping up with Minetest's development in a while. Does Minetest have a working mob engine that isn't just sprites yet? The level of developer bullshit, modder bullshit, and general drama, bullshit, and crushing disappointment and regret involved in Minecraft is getting to be too much for me, and I was wondering if Minetest was a viable alternative yet.
02:59 kaeza well...
03:01 kaeza Mobs were moved to the Lua side long ago
03:01 VanessaE ...and they are usually 3d
03:01 VanessaE if they use the player model, they are compatible with MC skins.
03:04 Kacey back
03:04 VanessaE wb
03:13 Kacey ty
03:16 Kacey khonkhortisan, how do i activate your crossing code?
03:17 VanessaE khonkhortisan: aside from needing textures, is there anything else that patch needs?
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03:29 Vadtec Kacey: sorry i missed you last night, got sucked into helping my dad with his new gps...
03:30 Vadtec you still need help with compiling on windows?
03:30 Kacey maybe tomorrow. bedtime is soon.
03:30 Vadtec ok
03:30 Vadtec ill try to do a simple write up on it
03:31 Vadtec its a fairly straightforward method
03:31 Vadtec though sound is a pain in the ass
03:32 Kacey i have mingw installed. but compiling all the neccesary components for minetest is hard... i wish windows would do a good sudo apt-get
03:35 Vadtec Kacey: the only hard part is having to DL each of the deps
03:35 Vadtec and putting them in the right location
03:36 Vadtec otherwise the commands are pretty much the same
03:39 * Menche is really annoyed at bones mod
03:40 Menche players can drop bones in protected areas
03:40 Menche and fresh bones with items can't be removed
03:42 jordan4ibanez Lol I asked Richard Stallman to play Xonotic with me, and it's a definate maybe.
03:42 Menche can bones be disabled from game.conf?
03:44 VanessaE Menche: I just delete the bones mod.
03:44 Menche should be a disable option like with fire
03:44 VanessaE there might be such, but I'm not sure.
03:44 Kacey i just delete both of them. useless anyway
03:45 VanessaE nothing in minetest.conf.example about it though
03:45 VanessaE so I guess nuke it.
03:45 Menche sometimes i have to grab the game again for some reason, and forget to delete it
03:45 Menche happened with fire, with disastrous results
03:45 VanessaE I automated all that with a script
03:46 VanessaE it copies everything into their proper places, deletes what I don't want, packages up the result into a game, and installs it to my server and to my client ofr single player use.
03:46 VanessaE for*
03:46 Menche i install my server with checkinstall but manage the game separately
03:47 VanessaE ditto
03:47 VanessaE the actual server code is handled by another script.
03:53 khonkhortisan Kacey, you'd pull my branch, then either use the creative inventory to get the crossover, or craft two insulated wires together.
03:54 khonkhortisan VanessaE, It should be considered whether receptors/effectors could benefit from having multi_rules too
03:54 Kacey i did and it resulted in an unknown item. seems to me that you forgot to define the off state
03:54 khonkhortisan mesecons_extrawires:crossover_off
03:55 khonkhortisan I haven't seen it create an unknown item
03:55 Kacey oops! i cloned the wrong branch
03:56 khonkhortisan There's a way to pull a branch from a different repo than the main one you're using
03:57 Kacey not on the windows git
03:57 khonkhortisan then switch to a different git
03:58 Kacey naw im keeping windows on this computer
03:58 khonkhortisan it's not true git
03:58 Kacey windows 8 isnt that bad
03:58 Kacey it works for me
03:59 khonkhortisan If your git client can't do what my git client can do, get a different git client. Keep your os.
03:59 Kacey i got this client from git directly
03:59 Kacey straight from github
03:59 Menche github != git
04:00 Menche github uses git, they didn't make it
04:00 Kacey except it is run from libgit2 so...
04:00 khonkhortisan github has their own git client
04:00 Menche the *official* git for windows comes with it's own bash shell iirc
04:00 khonkhortisan bash?
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04:01 khonkhortisan I didn't know I could get bash on windows
04:01 Menche yeah
04:01 Kacey no. it comes with the lib to make cmd or powershell able to use the git api
04:01 Menche or through msys from mingw
04:02 Menche from http://git-scm.com
04:02 khonkhortisan that's not a valid git command!
04:02 Menche ?
04:02 khonkhortisan git --local-branching-on-the-cheap
04:03 Menche i doubt --distributed-is-the-new-centralized is either
04:03 Menche lol
04:04 Menche i use msys when i'm in windows
04:04 Menche bash, most linux tools, it's own software management
04:04 khonkhortisan its
04:05 khonkhortisan http://www.its-not-its.info/
04:05 * Menche isn't the only one to mix that up
04:06 khonkhortisan I have someone on another channel that refuses to change
04:06 Kacey its complicated. every situation has it's own solution
04:06 khonkhortisan ugh
04:06 Kacey :P
04:07 Menche i usually try to use correct grammar, sometimes i forget or just mistype
04:07 Menche (that comma probably should have been a semicolon)
04:07 khonkhortisan I'm not as trinke as you denke I am
04:07 * Menche has always am very well at grammars
04:08 Kacey i just dont care for apostrophes at all. waste of my time
04:08 khonkhortisan that's why its in place of it's bugs me less than it's in place of its
04:08 khonkhortisan couldn't've has two apostrophes
04:08 * Menche had to read that sentence a few times
04:09 VanessaE people writing they're/there/their or using apostrophes for plural words is what bugs me.
04:09 VanessaE makes me wanna sic Bob the Angry Flower on said people :)
04:09 Menche i don't use apostrophes for pluralization
04:09 Menche i sometimes mix up contractions and possesives
04:10 khonkhortisan word's
04:10 * Kacey always was never oay attentions on classez
04:10 Kacey pay*
04:11 Menche and then there's people (not mentioning Likwid's name) who, drop commas, all over, the place
04:11 khonkhortisan This is just like when someone sings. If they sing horibbly on purpose, you can tell they're trying to and it doesn't bug you. If they sing just barely off without trying too, it's really annoying.
04:11 Kacey heh
04:12 Kacey AND I WAS LIKE BABY, BABY, BABY OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!
04:12 Kacey sorry adhd
04:12 khonkhortisan VE, is taht a game?
04:12 khonkhortisan I taut I taw a putty tat
04:14 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, it's actually a comic.
04:14 VanessaE http://www.angryflower.com/aposter3.jpg
04:15 khonkhortisan I can't find cats anywhere in there
04:17 kaeza VanessaE, lol
04:17 Menche khonkhortisan, that says that possessives are a valid use for apostrophes
04:17 khonkhortisan I believe its is an exception
04:17 VanessaE correct.
04:17 VanessaE its/it's is about the only word I can think of that violates that rule.
04:17 Menche *sigh* english...
04:18 khonkhortisan An apostrophe of one's own.
04:19 Menche there's this gas station near me that uses quotation marks for emphasis
04:19 Menche drives me nuts
04:19 VanessaE Menche: oh I HATE that.
04:19 Vadtec "emphasis"
04:19 Menche "Yes" we now do smog
04:20 Menche "Please" do not park here
04:20 Menche GAH
04:20 sokomine as long as they stick to one quotation mark alone you can't complain
04:20 kahrl maybe there quoting something?
04:20 Menche quoting one word?
04:20 kaeza ...
04:20 VanessaE I wonder if that guy I read about on slashdot, the one who carries around a box full of markers and paints, still goes around correcting peoples' signs
04:20 Menche quoting "yes"?
04:20 VanessaE /kill kahrl
04:20 sokomine er, sorry, was misreading it for exclamation marks
04:20 * kaeza wonders if kahrl's comment was sarcasm
04:21 sokomine havn't seen spam with quotation marks yet
04:22 khonkhortisan maybe they're quoting something?
04:22 Menche i don't think you have to quote "yes"
04:22 kahrl khonkhortisan: no, its their
04:22 khonkhortisan huh?
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04:22 khonkhortisan no it's not
04:23 Menche it is clearly "there"
04:23 khonkhortisan there (place) their (ownership) they're (contraction of "they are")
04:23 Menche </troll>
04:23 khonkhortisan now what was I going to say - oh yeah, if they correct someone's sign, and it's the same color and font, I don't see how it could be considered destruction of property
04:25 Menche not really legal, but if i witnessed them "fixing" something i wouldn't report them :P
04:25 khonkhortisan there's trespassing though
04:25 Menche i heard of them; i think they got in trouble for modifying a historical sign
04:25 Menche or something like that
04:27 khonkhortisan Something that was supposed to stay misspelled
04:28 Menche the government doesn't like apostrophes in place names
04:28 Menche saw a newspaper article about someone who wanted to name a mountain something like "andy's hill", but was changed to "andys hill"
04:29 Menche (the name may have been different)
04:29 khonkhortisan we'll just have to utf-8-encode the government, then
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04:48 VanessaE bbl, bedtime
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08:31 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Chocolate Pudding Day! :-D
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09:02 Calinou s/chocolate/pony
09:02 Calinou what's that day anyway
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10:35 Taoki Hi, I've a question about schematics. When importing one, is it possible to specify the angle?
10:36 Taoki For minetest.place_schematic(pos, schematic)
10:36 Taoki Also, what does pos represent? The center or the upper-left corner (starts from minimum X and Z)?
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11:29 sfan5 hi
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11:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:36 Taoki Hi hi
11:37 Taoki PilzAdam: How are things? Any news on that leak?
11:37 PilzAdam I just woke up
11:38 Taoki Yeah, from last night I mean. I had to leave earlier
11:38 * Taoki is sorry if being impatient
11:38 Taoki And BRB
11:50 Taoki back
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11:53 Taoki Anyone knows what probability_list must be like for minetest.create_schematic? If I use { { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3}, 0 } like it says (0 because I want to ignore some nodes when creating the scmehatic) minetest even crashes
11:59 Taoki "probability_list is an array of tables containing two fields, pos and prob." - That's what I'm trying, but it crashes
12:06 dachary what does "creative mode" mean in minetest ?
12:06 Taoki It seems to no longer crash if I use { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3, -1 }
12:09 PilzAdam dachary, why dont you simple try it?
12:09 dachary well, I did
12:09 dachary and I don't see it ?
12:09 PilzAdam what minetest version?
12:09 dachary I mean ... i can build etc.
12:09 dachary 0.4.7
12:09 dachary but what's special about creative mode ?
12:09 PilzAdam you have unlimited nodes, a list of all nodes in your inventory and you can break every node with your hand
12:10 dachary oh
12:10 dachary a list of all nodes in my inventory ?
12:11 PilzAdam like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Minetest_creative_mode_.png
12:11 sfan5 oh damnit
12:11 sfan5 you were faster :/
12:12 dachary :-)
12:12 dachary oh
12:13 * dachary trying again
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13:03 arsdragonfly hell
13:04 arsdragonfly Is it right to mine mese BLOCKS with a steel pickaxe?
13:04 VanessaE yup
13:04 arsdragonfly I found some of them when the server was shutting down
13:05 arsdragonfly I mined 3 of them, nothing appeared in my inventory, then the game froze :-(
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13:46 sfan5 arsdragonfly: it not the game that freezes, just the mouse
13:46 sfan5 alsom
13:46 sfan5 *also: if a server shuts down you wont get disconnected
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14:23 harrison free as in beer
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14:25 PilzAdam harrison has free beer?
14:25 harrison gpl4lyfe
14:26 harrison free elleko
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15:53 OldCoder News: Some crashes in my worlds recently were due to the irc mod. It does not work on the new server. I will ask kaeza for help.
15:54 OldCoder News: I offer the community high-end servers. 32GB RAM and 8 cores. I'll update to current MT and run more worlds more reliably. But I'll need help learning things again.
15:55 OldCoder ruskie, sfan5, Taoki, thexyz, Calinou ^
15:55 Calinou 8 amd cores or 8 intel cores? :P
15:55 OldCoder I don't remember and will find out
15:55 sfan5 :D
15:55 OldCoder But it seems fast
15:55 Calinou cat /proc/cpuinfo
15:55 OldCoder All right One moment
15:56 OldCoder vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
15:56 OldCoder model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5410  @ 2.33GHz
15:56 OldCoder cpu MHz         : 1999.000
15:56 OldCoder cache size      : 6144 KB
15:57 OldCoder bogomips        : 4667.18
15:57 OldCoder Seems O.K.
15:57 OldCoder Mem[||||||             515/32243MB]
15:57 OldCoder That much RAM should last a while
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16:01 OldCoder Zeg9, comments are for you too ^
16:01 sfan5 OldCoder: could I run MinetestBot on it
16:02 OldCoder Possibly. One step at a time. I request patience. Putting things back together after a year.
16:02 Calinou OldCoder: bi-CPU or single CPU? :P
16:02 OldCoder Calinou, explain please and thank you
16:02 Zeg9 OldCoder: btw, could you host Zegaton II when it will be ready?
16:02 OldCoder Zeg9, Yes
16:03 * OldCoder is shutting down worlds for brief inspection
16:03 Calinou OldCoder: do you have a single CPU or a dual CPU machine?
16:03 OldCoder Calinou, Do you mean the laptop I am on? Or the server?
16:03 Calinou I doubt you would have single CPU, since an octacore xeon costs 3500€ or so
16:04 sfan5 OldCoder: i think he means the server
16:04 Calinou the server
16:04 Calinou intel doesn't even make mobile hexacores :P
16:04 OldCoder Calinou, sfan5 what should I check?
16:04 OldCoder There are photos on my blog... but probably somewhere in /proc or /sys
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16:05 * OldCoder is probably going to revert to June 22 because there have been multiple crashes since then... best to avoid corruption
16:06 Calinou fuc
16:06 Calinou I just googled "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5410"
16:06 OldCoder And?
16:06 OldCoder Good or bad?
16:07 OldCoder Inquiring minds want to know :P
16:07 Calinou OldCoder: it is a quad core
16:07 Calinou so you are bi-CPU
16:07 OldCoder Is this inadequate?
16:07 Calinou OldCoder: googling is bad, startpaging is good
16:07 Calinou no
16:07 Calinou just different
16:07 OldCoder Is this good?
16:07 OldCoder Calinou, startpage point noted
16:07 * OldCoder is transferring 130622 worlds to the new server
16:08 OldCoder Calinou, quad core with eight CPUs then?
16:08 * OldCoder is distracted and probably missing details
16:11 Calinou OldCoder: no, you have two quad core CPUs on the same mobo
16:11 Calinou likely
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16:11 Calinou the core 2 gen does not use hyoerthreading (does it, in the server area?)
16:11 Calinou hyper*
16:11 OldCoder Ah
16:12 Calinou Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology No
16:12 Calinou nope
16:12 OldCoder Very well thank you
16:12 OldCoder As long as it works
16:12 Calinou have to go, bye
16:13 OldCoder Hmm. wget from new server is 10X faster than scp to new server.
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16:14 OldCoder mrtux, wb
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16:14 mrtux k
16:14 mrtux internet being crap again
16:14 sfan5 OldCoder: random info: MinetestBot requires at least python 2.6 and python-setuptools with "feedparser" installed to fully function
16:15 OldCoder sfan5, that is fine
16:15 harrison i am unimpressed with irc today and yesterday. very sluggish -- not the network this time, but the people.
16:15 OldCoder New server should stabilize over the next month. There is one concern about a Python bot. I can't seem to start mine if...
16:15 sfan5 I may also add a !git pull command so I can instruct MinetestBot to pull from git://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules
16:15 OldCoder harrison, hi
16:15 harrison oh, drat, i know i know you
16:16 OldCoder sfan5, readline code fails if my Python bot is started from /etc/rc.local
16:16 harrison i mean, we have chatted before
16:16 mrtux harrison: yes i agree
16:16 harrison but i don't remember if it was in this channel OldCoder
16:16 OldCoder yes we have drat chat that is off the bat hi harrison
16:16 OldCoder harrison, it was in PM
16:17 OldCoder sfan5, as there is no tty... so my bot needs tweaking
16:17 harrison is there not something a bit strange in this: that MineTest uses lua and Minetestbot uses python?
16:17 harrison free elleko
16:17 OldCoder harrison, it seems O.K.
16:18 harrison free snowden
16:18 Zeg9 MineTest and Minetestbot are separate projects :p
16:18 harrison free weev
16:18 Zeg9 in hedgewars they even use Pascal, Haskell, Lua and C++ in the same software
16:18 harrison all right. let me play the devil's advocate again and ask this:
16:19 harrison Wouldn't it be better to use only one language for the whole thing, rather than even 2 such as C++ and lua?
16:20 Jordach sunofabitch
16:20 harrison We should ask why we think we need scripting languages
16:20 Jordach harrison, because its easier than re-compliing
16:20 harrison for instance, consider second life
16:20 Jordach http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg
16:20 harrison the client uses C++ (in most cases)
16:21 OldCoder Is there really such a thing as a scripting language?
16:21 harrison the inworld scripting uses LSL (or other Mono langs)
16:21 * OldCoder is resting... back in a few minutes
16:23 harrison Jordach -- good answer! One reason is that a scripting language has no (visible) compilation stage
16:23 Jordach ffs - this milkshake ring pull is pissing me off
16:23 harrison and that, since it is separate from the statically compiled code of the client
16:24 harrison (the client must be statically compiled for speed)
16:24 harrison we can write a script and run it while the client is running
16:25 harrison What if we could use the statically compiled main language as the scripting language?
16:25 harrison Two uses, one language
16:25 harrison So that bits of code could be compiled as scripts
16:26 harrison and introjected into the client
16:26 harrison to run at compiled speed
16:28 Zeg9 C++ takes a little time to compiel (only for big files :p)
16:28 Zeg9 but on non-speedy machines (especially - the single core ones)...
16:29 Jordach fuck you and your hatred for pentium 4s
16:30 Jordach most business computers still use em
16:31 Zeg9 :p
16:31 Jordach and yet, microsoft wants them dead
16:31 Jordach most of em cant run 8
16:31 Jordach mine can :>
16:35 OldCoder Back
16:36 Zeg9 Wb
16:36 OldCoder ty
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16:50 Kacey good morning!
16:53 Zeg9 Hi
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17:06 Jordach tch, vanessa isnt here
17:09 harrison Compilation time is surely not the issue!
17:09 harrison I spoke of the compilation of code fragments at runtime
17:10 harrison Now, that this would be difficult to do using C++ : I am prepared to believe it
17:10 Zeg9 ^that
17:11 harrison For a film demonstrating the technique using a proper language, view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOocN1BKjh0
17:13 harrison the "scripting" fragments implement raytrace shaders and that code runs natively
17:13 harrison it's not a "dynamic language"
17:13 harrison supposedly
17:14 harrison in fact this experiment showed me that a proper static language can do dynamic things
17:15 harrison if i can do this using oberon, imagine what a truly gifted coder could accomplish
17:15 Kacey hey does anyone want to help make a rp2 type mod?
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17:37 Kacey bbl
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17:44 kaeza greetings
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18:11 iqualfragile prepare for loads of german ubuntu users http://planet.ubuntuusers.de/#article_0
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18:17 PilzAdam iqualfragile, \o/
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18:18 iqualfragile but the blogpost is not realy accurate…
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18:19 sfan5 iqualfragile: yay
18:21 PilzAdam iqualfragile, strange that they mention mods when they have 0.3 in their repos...
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18:25 iqualfragile well, he mentions that you can download the new version
18:26 iqualfragile not everybody can use arch :)
18:26 Jordach harch-linux
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18:29 frogcrush iqualfragile: What? Not everybody can use Arch?
18:30 iqualfragile i guess so
18:30 iqualfragile otherwise everybody would be
18:30 frogcrush My only reasons not to use arch are school, and Visual Studio
18:30 frogcrush School uses GoToMeeting
18:31 frogcrush Visual Studio is amazing
18:31 Jordach i agree with Visual Studio
18:31 Jordach EXCEPT for the mangling of C++
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18:38 diemartin old topic bump: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96668#p96668
18:49 Jordach anyways, im creating my own game for minetest
18:49 Jordach anything you know about minetest_game? forget it.
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18:53 Jordach (it also breaks compatibility with all minetest_game worlds)
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18:59 PilzAdam Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest
18:59 Kacey our character is named Sam?
18:59 PilzAdam Kacey, no
19:00 Jordach PilzAdam, unfortunately i cant clone ENTIRE models + armature
19:00 Kacey aah i like george better for a name.
19:00 Jordach ew
19:00 PilzAdam Jordach, and that means?
19:00 Jordach Kacey, you forget that the player is unisex
19:00 Kacey jorge?
19:00 john_minetest I like "John Minetest" better as a name ;)
19:00 * Jordach slaps john_minetest with Sam
19:00 Kacey johnita!
19:00 Jordach brb
19:00 Jordach slapping john_minetest with sam render
19:01 * john_minetest slapping Jordach with creepy beardy man render
19:01 john_minetest THIS creepy beardy man: http://i.imgur.com/GxmVgWw.png
19:04 Kacey O.o
19:06 john_minetest Jordach: Sam _is_ an unisex name.
19:06 john_minetest It could be a short form of Samantha
19:06 john_minetest See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisex_name
19:06 PilzAdam john_minetest, yes, thats why he chose that name
19:07 PilzAdam its still named character.png
19:07 john_minetest The character should have the name "Superawesumpwny"
19:10 Kacey charlie shall be his name!
19:10 PilzAdam I know a dog named Charlie
19:10 john_minetest I know a monkey named Charlie.
19:11 john_minetest I think he was on ZDF or ARD for a _long_ time a few years ago.
19:12 Kacey see i have a unisex nickname
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19:12 Kacey Kacey is both a male and female name
19:12 PilzAdam john_minetest, btw, I am a member of the German Physicist Society for one year for free because of the 15 points I wrote in the Physik LK :D
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19:13 Jordach the fight is over. i decided the name for skin as i drew it:
19:13 Jordach *loads commit*
19:13 PilzAdam character.png
19:13 Jordach thats a filename
19:14 Jordach by that logic, steve is char.png
19:14 Calinou ^
19:14 Calinou \o/ debate on player name
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19:14 Kacey i say charlie
19:15 Kacey or Van. just for VanessaE
19:15 PilzAdam I say name it "Rainbow Dash" and fight with all the MLP fanboys ;-)
19:16 Jordach john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/Vr0u6LJ.png
19:16 Calinou do that, but you will need to reskin it
19:17 Jordach suck my left hook, biatch
19:17 Calinou Jordach, replace the orange guy with minecraft character
19:17 Calinou would be funnier :P
19:17 Jordach hold on
19:17 Jordach nope. dont have the skin at,
19:17 Jordach atm*
19:17 Jordach http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg
19:17 PilzAdam Jordach, y u not create that video I requested?
19:18 frogcrush He went on a date?
19:18 Jordach PilzAdam, i suck at video making in blender
19:18 Jordach i could make two films and have one with alpha
19:18 john_minetest PilzAdam: A friend of mine is now member of the German Physicist Society AND the German Mathematics Society now :D
19:19 john_minetest He has an 1,2 in his Abitur.
19:19 * PilzAdam has 1.2 too
19:19 PilzAdam got an book for that
19:19 PilzAdam (and also a book from the DPG)
19:19 Calinou ITT: pinterest germany edition
19:20 iqualfragile Jordach: http://minecraft.net/images/char.png
19:20 Calinou PilzAdam, don't you have "Increasing your wifi range with a unicorn - a practical guide" book too? :)
19:21 khonkhortisan unihorn?
19:21 Jordach Taoki, just seen your latest work
19:22 Kacey khonkhortisan, i gave up on your crossing code. i will wait for it to be pushed to mesecons master git
19:22 Jordach jesus fucking christ
19:22 Taoki Jordach: The structures?
19:22 Jordach nono
19:22 Jordach youtube + bledner
19:22 Jordach blender
19:22 Taoki aaa
19:22 Taoki ok :P
19:22 khonkhortisan huh. What was wrong with it, just an unregistered node?
19:22 PilzAdam Taoki, could you do that? <PilzAdam> Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest
19:23 Taoki PilzAdam: Doubt I'm good enough at doing that properly. Still learning Blender better
19:24 Calinou s/sam/rainbow dash
19:25 Calinou PilzAdam requested it
19:26 Jordach PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vzzpEiDkM
19:26 Jordach that's whats Taoki can do with an alpha channel
19:26 Taoki Well, the animation wasn't that good as can be seen
19:29 john_minetest PilzAdam: My friend who had 1,2 also got a lot of stuff. A few prizes from several companies. And he was recommended for the Deutsche Studienstiftung.
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19:31 Calinou <khonkhortisan> unihorn? => what? :P
19:31 Jordach i've now replaced my /face command: http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png
19:31 khonkhortisan unicorn horn
19:32 khonkhortisan used in certain nethack circles
19:32 john_minetest Jordach: Lol, you have chat command that post automatic imgur links?
19:32 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png
19:32 Jordach insta facepalm
19:32 * Calinou replaces their /brohoof command with that image
19:32 khonkhortisan nice comeback
19:32 Jordach btw, /nope:
19:32 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
19:33 Calinou I actually don't have /brohoof :P
19:33 Jordach this is how useful x-chat's user commands are
19:33 john_minetest The cephalopod looks like a horse-elephant.
19:33 Jordach (well, hexchat.)
19:34 Calinou khonkhortisan, in candy box you can get an unicorn's horn for health regen in quests
19:34 Jordach Calinou, chess?
19:34 Calinou not now, in ~5 mins
19:35 Jordach alrighty
19:35 khonkhortisan in nethack a horn-o-plenty gives you food, otherwise it can heal sickness
19:35 Jordach anyone ever played age of empires
19:35 Jordach (i like the spin-off, age of mythology)
19:36 Jordach hold on
19:37 Calinou back
19:38 kaeza Jordach, played AoE 2 (+ Conquerors expansion)
19:39 Jordach i just gave Sam boobs
19:39 Calinou also give him a horn and wings
19:40 Calinou then ask micheal larabel to post on phoronix "Sam Now Has Boobs", uid313 comments: "Still no boob reclocking support"
19:40 * Jordach hands Calinou a game of chess
19:40 Calinou and BO$$ comments "boob hate starts in 3-2-1..."
19:41 Calinou Jordach, http://lichess.org/qged6ikn
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19:46 iqualfragile lichless is wrong, my browser supports websockets, i have just disabled them -.-
19:51 Calinou \o/
19:51 Calinou iqualfragile, dat paranoid
19:51 Calinou Jordach, lol @ how I gave my queen
19:51 Calinou that was a premove :P
19:52 Jordach Calinou, haha
19:52 Jordach i timed out
19:52 Jordach literally
19:52 iqualfragile yeah, i am one of those guys who reads throught all the changes…
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19:58 PilzAdam <harrison> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1
19:58 PilzAdam :-p
19:58 Kacey z
19:58 Kacey sv2 x/j0fugy6awp8tl,jhvs=
19:58 Kacey there was a spider on my keyboard
19:59 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1c
19:59 harrison missed a char
20:05 john_minetest If Chuck Norris would exist, he would beat my head on my keyborgvearioihjaos<vcmnv adjfakjejäf#ae+ü8654
20:06 Calinou he did it, see
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20:06 Calinou or john_minetest's wifi-unicorn probably raged and killed john_minetest
20:06 Calinou Kacey, a spider that is heavy enough to type? O_o
20:06 Calinou or did you just try to kill it, so you typed by mistake? :P
20:07 YoungDerp no i killed it
20:07 * YoungDerp waits for himself to time out
20:07 Calinou /ns ghost
20:07 john_minetest Noooooo! You killed one of the last unicorns!
20:07 PilzAdam /msg NickServ GHOST Kacey
20:08 Kacey there we go
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20:12 Kacey back
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20:15 kaeza hi V
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20:15 Calinou ...anessaE
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20:18 VanessaE hi
20:19 Calinou VanessaE, I merged your pull request, btw
20:19 VanessaE I saw, thanks
20:19 Kacey hi VanessaE
20:20 * Kacey still has to bug uberi about the code
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20:22 * sfan5 reading a paper on security for library computers: "There are a wide variety of web browsers that do the same things as IE, and some are
20:22 sfan5 significantly less vulnerable to malicious websites. The reality is, however, more people are familiar with IE than any of the others. A well patched version of IE should be plenty sufficient"
20:22 sfan5 *facepalm*
20:23 Calinou TIL you can patch IE
20:23 john_minetest How can someone be familiar with such a shit browser? This would mean being familiar with crashes and problems displaying content, problems reaching sites and problems reaching the internet at all.
20:23 john_minetest I had all these problems and I only used IE once to download firefox...
20:23 sfan5 http://www.giac.org/paper/gsec/4304/securing-public-access-computers-library-setting/107011
20:23 sfan5 page 18
20:24 PilzAdam sfan5, #neuland
20:24 sfan5 :D
20:24 Calinou some governments actually say users should not use IE
20:24 Calinou except the US :trollface:
20:24 sfan5 anyway, that paper is from 2005
20:25 PilzAdam Calinou, the german government doesnt even know about this thing called "internet"
20:25 sfan5 why would library computers even use windows?
20:26 sfan5 its full of security holes, there are still ways to get admin...
20:26 sfan5 and the by far worst thing: IE
20:27 john_minetest In school we use ubuntu as default and M$ wingoof as dualboot. windows with firefox, opera and libreoffice stuff.
20:28 sfan5 my school hired a company to make the computer work....
20:28 kaeza sfan5, here, the UTU (one of the major universities) still used Win98 up to a few years ago ;_;
20:28 sfan5 they installed ubuntu 9.04
20:28 john_minetest Because they didn't want to pay for office crap.
20:28 sfan5 kaeza: notbad.png
20:29 kaeza yes, teachnig Borland Turbo C++
20:29 kaeza ching*
20:31 Calinou "the future is tablets!" --MS
20:31 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes:
20:31 sfan5 *cough*
20:32 sfan5 tranlated to proper english from bussiness english: "the future is overpriced Windows RT devices with pricey cool-looking flat keyboards!" --MS
20:32 Calinou of course, that's how business english works
20:32 sfan5 -s
20:33 Calinou try translating business english to proper english on ubuntu.com or canonical.com
20:33 Kacey lol this reminds me of a song
20:34 Kacey Epic Rap Battles of History: Steve Jobs Vs Bill Gates
20:34 Kacey youtube it
20:34 * sfan5 saw it
20:34 Calinou old news
20:35 PilzAdam Kacey, everyone in this channel has watched it over 600 thousand times
20:35 Calinou Jordach will probably make Epic Rap Battles of History: Sam Vs Rainbow Dash
20:35 PilzAdam (and nobody else)
20:35 Kacey aaw
20:37 VanessaE never seen it (don't wanna, either.  I hate rap)
20:38 Kacey it is funny
20:39 BrandonReese Oh I hate rap, but I love epic rap battles of history
20:40 PilzAdam ^
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21:16 Kacey http://mg.viewskew.com/submit/
21:16 Kacey k i made a command for hexchat
21:17 Kacey http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jboot111/m/confusing/
21:17 Kacey look at the picture!
21:17 VanessaE theh
21:17 VanessaE heh
21:18 Kacey the command for me is /confused
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21:31 VanessaE bbl
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21:46 Kacey Your use of the network
21:46 Kacey indicates your acceptance of this policy.
21:46 Kacey NO! i dont accept this policy! lol
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21:48 * Kacey pokes Uberi
21:48 Uberi o/
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22:12 john_minetest Lol, this german article is so true: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashtag
22:13 john_minetest It says: „Wieder mal zu spät zur Arbeit gekommen #DeutscheBahn“
22:14 PilzAdam :D
22:20 john_minetest I can't use this excuse because I am living near to the swiss border. The trains are coming from the swiss and they are always on time.
22:21 john_minetest But when I travel somewhere I always have 5 minutes to several hours delay.
22:22 john_minetest When I have to switch trains and got five minutes and the train I'm on is 10 minutes too late it can take hours until the next train drives in this direction.
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23:32 kahrl astroturfing D: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hashtag&amp;diff=119805258&amp;oldid=119772966
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