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00:10 Exio wb VanessaE :)
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00:16 VanessaE thanks
00:22 kaeza lol reading the logs
00:23 kaeza "Is the code in mods global or per-player?  As in, if there's a variable defined in the mod, would it be visible no matter which player activated the code?
00:23 kaeza lolwut
00:24 kaeza aww shit, shirish was here...
00:24 khonkhortisan I don't understand the question, but the answer is no
00:24 kaeza and I just added two lines to my game that do nothing
00:24 khonkhortisan and now you just highlighted the person?
00:25 Kacey we need an applied energistics mod...
00:26 kaeza ...
00:26 kaeza khonkhortisan, just for the record, my question was a quote
00:26 kaeza http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-26#i_3052833
00:27 NakedFury kacey a what?
00:27 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluPGpkLUZ0
00:28 NakedFury ugh so many new blocks to texture
00:28 NakedFury :D
00:28 Kacey lol
00:31 kaeza so... if I understand well... "snappy" is for wooden things right?
00:31 kaeza (I mean armor groups)
00:35 kahrl kaeza: non-wood plant material, I'd say
00:35 kahrl like leaves, flowers
00:36 kaeza hmm...  I'm trying to come up with a way for the firearms to breaj glass, but don't want to hardcode any node names in it
00:36 kahrl lua_api.txt: "something that can be cut using fine tools; eg. leaves, small plants, wire, sheets of metal"
00:36 kaeza break*
00:37 NakedFury so weird seeing kahrl here
00:37 NakedFury but good anyway
00:38 NakedFury missed you
00:38 kahrl I missed everyone too :)
00:39 NakedFury did the state of the game surprise you? or not where you expected it to be at
00:41 kahrl not really, I did check for new developments at times
00:41 kahrl mostly checking the blog
00:44 NakedFury well the game has come far. many new stuff added, bugs squashed, amazing modding community and big changes to default game are mostly polled to check with everyone. like mese crystal
00:45 kahrl yeah I like how the community has grown
00:45 NakedFury there was a time when we had an unwanted weed but its gone, for now
00:48 kaeza I see "the one who shall not be named" was on #-dev yesterday
00:49 VanessaE yeah
00:49 khonkhortisan Is there a car that the player can ride in that goes at the speed of fast that requires stairs to change elevation?
00:49 Exio kaeza: the one who shall not be named? who!
00:49 NakedFury dont name it
00:50 kaeza the mine of land
00:50 NakedFury noooooooooo
00:50 kaeza lol
00:50 kaeza now he'll come up with his crap
00:51 NakedFury the last few days we have been getting some bad son of a mother spamming the -mods channel
00:53 khonkhortisan so all three channells, then
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00:54 jordan4ibanez This is very nice. http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019
00:54 jordan4ibanez Didn't expect the interface to work so well, and expected very bad video quality, but it feels native.
00:58 NakedFury its because of silverlight right?
00:58 jordan4ibanez Yes.
01:00 NakedFury enjoy the beauty of netflix
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01:46 mauvebic avast or avg? need to install some old games lol
01:47 mauvebic (caesar 4)
01:47 tripod avast i'd think
01:48 mauvebic thats what i figured, alot of sites say avg 2013 sucks
01:48 khonkhortisan I made some double-incline stairs
01:50 VanessaE double?
01:51 mauvebic screenies?
01:51 VanessaE screenshots or it didn't happen ;)
01:51 mauvebic srsly lol drive me nuts "new mod!" no screens :( lol
01:54 khonkhortisan ok
01:56 NakedFury mauvebic why do you need an anti virus for an old game?
01:56 NakedFury downloading it or do you have the disc?
01:56 NakedFury and yeah show a screenshot, im curious for the stairs
01:57 khonkhortisan Did you know chatcommand's param is "" not nil?
01:59 khonkhortisan It's the opposite of slabs: http://postimg.org/image/3swskfhyt/
01:59 VanessaE nice
01:59 VanessaE but are they walkable?
02:00 khonkhortisan You can climb them very fast
02:00 VanessaE neat
02:00 khonkhortisan half the time for the same height, I think
02:00 khonkhortisan But you can't place something next to the top half, being a single node
02:01 NakedFury and can you go up this 2 node stair?
02:01 mauvebic <NakedFury> mauvebic why do you need an anti virus for an old game? <- being safe, (torrents)
02:02 khonkhortisan I made it so this slope wouldn't come near the center of the world http://postimg.org/image/kxopi7zc7/
02:03 khonkhortisan On this double stair, I can go forward the same speed, up double the speed.
02:03 khonkhortisan Regardless of what foot is stepping on what step
02:04 VanessaE nice
02:05 mauvebic i need glasses cuz i cant see it lol
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02:33 khonkhortisan Does minetest handle malformed packets? Could I send the server some junk and have it crash?
02:35 sdzen anyone remember how to use ABMs?
02:35 sdzen my mind is failing me right now and I dont think I can remember how to print hello world
02:35 khonkhortisan print("hello world")
02:37 khonkhortisan minetest.register_abm({nodenames = {"default:dirt"}, neighbors = {}, interval = 1, chance = 2, action = function(pos, node, active_object_count, active_object_count_wider) print("Dirt says hello world!") end,})
02:38 khonkhortisan minetest.chat_send_all("this?")
02:38 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1230069880.png
02:39 khonkhortisan where did you get that hand?
02:39 khonkhortisan The door looks better
02:39 VanessaE that's my husband's fist actually.
02:40 VanessaE the door is an experiment, playing around with that new alpha feature
02:50 kaeza looks awesome with that partially transparent glass
02:50 * khonkhortisan downloads backtrack linux O.o
02:51 VanessaE it'll get better in a while, as soon as I find the damn project file for that glass insert so I can re-render it.
02:51 kaeza khonkhortisan, minetest.chat_send_add("hello!'); DROP TABLE Map; --")
02:51 kaeza :P
02:52 khonkhortisan Little Johnny Tables, we call him.
02:52 khonkhortisan Got the name wrong :( http://xkcd.com/327/
02:52 kaeza Bobby Tables*
02:52 khonkhortisan What language is that, anyway?
02:53 kaeza SQL?
02:53 kaeza also, umm... minetest.chat_send_all *
02:53 khonkhortisan I didn't notice the _add
02:54 khonkhortisan I saw what I wanted to see
02:58 sdzen 111111
02:59 sdzen what did you see?
02:59 khonkhortisan oh
02:59 khonkhortisan your quotes!
02:59 khonkhortisan "hello!'
02:59 khonkhortisan I saw minetest.chat_send_all(...
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03:03 sdzen wooo....
03:03 sdzen crysis averted
03:03 sdzen some jerk thought it would be nice to set fire to a very large forest
03:04 VanessaE fuck, the svg file for that glass insert is long gone :(
03:05 sdzen make one?
03:05 sdzen :P
03:05 VanessaE guess I have to
03:05 VanessaE and it's gonna take fucking forever.
03:06 sdzen it will take forever to replant the scorched plains where a massive forest was
03:06 VanessaE rollback?
03:06 sdzen fire
03:06 sdzen lots of fire
03:06 sdzen cant undo that
03:09 khonkhortisan When I first started playing minetest, I thought if you cut a whole forest down, some trees would grow back, and that if I mined in such a way that there was maximum surface area, I would have the most chance of seeing when the ores came back into the stone.
03:10 Kacey we need an applied energistics mod...
03:10 NakedFury you thought ores regrew>
03:10 khonkhortisan yep
03:10 sdzen possibly after thousands of years....
03:10 khonkhortisan Kacey, I know you know I know you said that, you know I know?
03:10 sdzen obviously the greenman is immortal
03:10 NakedFury for the trees a mod can make them spread slowly
03:10 sdzen so that shouldnt be an issue :)
03:12 kaeza Kacey, why don't you post that in the "mod requests/ideas" thread?
03:12 Kacey idk to lazy i guess...
03:12 sdzen or make it :)
03:12 kaeza ^
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03:12 Kacey sdzen, haha like i can code all that
03:12 khonkhortisan I'd really like to have to build a car to get the fast priv
03:13 kaeza Kacey, haha as if posting the same thing 5 times will force someone to do it :P
03:13 sdzen I think we should need to take steroids for the fast priv
03:13 sdzen and its only temporary
03:13 Kacey kaeza, better chances
03:14 Kacey i can help contribute if someone else will also help
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03:51 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7383542528/hBF0AD48D/
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04:47 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #97 from RealBadAngel/patch-2 9299111900 2013-04-26T21:46:27-07:00 http://git.io/2W-D3Q
04:47 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Update README 13757ac854 2013-04-26T16:13:42-07:00 http://git.io/7jxz4Q
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05:06 Dogzilla131 Hi
05:10 Kacey hi
05:20 kaeza hi
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05:29 Dogzilla131 I made a webpage about minetest
05:42 Dogzilla131 bye
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06:29 sfan5 there are like thouhsand "sh" processes running... wtf? !
06:29 kaeza forkbomb?
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06:31 sfan5 kaeza: seems like nautilus opens many sh processes when i use "open with vlc" on my music folder
06:31 kaeza sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86780#p86780
06:32 sfan5 banned
06:33 kaeza stupid that shell scripts don't `exec' the real program
06:34 kaeza or rather, probably the vlc instances notify the first instance but don't exit right away
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08:42 * kaeza writes a random line so the channel is not dead quiet
08:42 RealBadAngel booo
08:42 kaeza hey RealBadAngel
08:42 RealBadAngel hi
08:43 kaeza how's it goin'?
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09:38 kaeza the forum thinks I'm a bot when trying to login in Chrome under Windows...
09:38 kaeza have to use...IE...
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10:05 Exio kaeza: firefox
10:05 Exio :D
10:07 Exio lol - tried the minecraft2.0 joke.jar and the tinted glass behaves weird - you don't see it when you cover it with water or other glass or so
10:08 Exio and got some "black" parts bugs - seems like MT and MC have some similar bugs
10:08 Exio and those bugs*
10:08 Jordach kaeza, we share the same bday
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10:27 * VanessaE peeks in
10:27 Jordach hey VanessaE
10:27 VanessaE hi
10:29 VanessaE Jordach: screenshot coming...
10:29 Jordach hm?
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10:31 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1259037722.png
10:31 VanessaE I've been playing with the new alpha feature, and also finally made the glass on that door not look like ass up close :)
10:32 Jordach nice
10:32 Jordach but were missing something
10:33 Jordach bump mappingh
10:33 Jordach -h
10:33 VanessaE can't do much about that :)
10:34 * Jordach lights up a doobe and passes it to the left hand side
10:34 Jordach doobie*
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10:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:50 VanessaE hey PilzAdam
10:50 Exio hi PilzAdam, how is your non-renewable lava today? ;P
10:50 Exio oh, hi VanessaE ^^
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10:53 kaeza Jordach, April 30th? :D
10:53 Jordach yup
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11:09 VanessaE make up my mind :)
11:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=2699
11:10 PilzAdam "Animated avatars are disallowed."
11:11 VanessaE ok
11:12 VanessaE fixed.
11:13 VanessaE celeron55 or someone else will have to disable uploading of gifs to keep that from happening in the future.
11:15 PilzAdam s/someone else/thexyz/
11:15 VanessaE btw,
11:15 VanessaE add screwdriver and flowers to minetest_game also.
11:15 VanessaE I've been seeing a few complaints here and there about lack of same.
11:17 thexyz wait, I have already done that
11:17 VanessaE hah!
11:17 VanessaE oh wait.
11:17 VanessaE you mean the website.
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11:26 thexyz yes
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11:58 Taoki I wonder if there's any server which uses my Structures mod. Would like to play online in a place with some natural villages
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12:08 iqualfragile Taoki: link?
12:08 Taoki http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=82780
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12:16 Mati^1 hi
12:17 ShadowNinja Hello!
12:21 VanessaE hi
12:23 kaeza hey
12:24 kaeza one small question:
12:24 VanessaE no.
12:24 VanessaE :tollface:
12:24 kaeza heh
12:24 VanessaE FUCK, I blew it
12:24 kaeza toll?
12:24 * ShadowBot wakes up
12:24 kaeza lol
12:24 VanessaE what's the question?
12:24 VanessaE :)
12:26 kaeza if I use "foo.png^bar.png" ... does it load and keep foo and bar separately and draw texture on the fly or makes a new texture from scratch combinng both?
12:27 kaeza also, if I later change the texture to "foo.png^bleh.png", what happens with the prev texture? is it freed right away?
12:30 ShadowNinja Hey ShadowBot!
12:30 ShadowBot Hello ShadowNinja!
12:31 ShadowNinja I fixed that double mention properly ^
12:32 VanessaE kaeza: it makes a new texture.
12:32 VanessaE afaik, all three files in your example remain cached/loaded.
12:33 kaeza VanessaE, which gets me to my last question
12:33 kaeza what happens with mods like the signs from signslib when multiple edits are done in a single server session?
12:35 VanessaE you know, I'm not really sure
12:35 VanessaE I should think a new texture is created on each edit
12:35 kaeza yep, but since the old one is not destroyed, isn't that a mem leak?
12:36 VanessaE indeed
12:36 VanessaE but how do you tell the engine "this texture is dead"?
12:36 kaeza reference counting
12:36 kaeza actually, I'm not sure if the game (or C++) does that currently
12:37 kaeza let me rephrase that
12:38 kaeza I don't know if the game keeps a "use count" for the texture or lets C++ do this thru the usual mechanisms
12:39 kaeza (and I'm too lazy 2 rd teh src)
12:39 kaeza :P
12:41 kaeza I just asked this because the HUD in firearms creates a new texture for every number
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12:48 markveidemanis hi
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12:49 markveidemanis So whats new
12:56 markveidemanis I need a new mod for survival
12:57 sfan5 how to clear your screen efficently: clear && clear | (clear; clear)
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12:58 markveidemanis cls maybe
13:01 kaeza sfan5, better use reset
13:01 * ShadowBot wakes up
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13:02 sfan5 hi MinetestBot
13:02 MinetestBot Hello sfan5
13:02 sfan5 MinetestBot!
13:02 MinetestBot sfan5!
13:02 sfan5 test MinetestBot!
13:02 sfan5 :/
13:03 * VanessaE pokes MinetestBot and ShadowBot
13:05 markveidemanis Hi MinetestBot
13:06 kaeza [09:56:27] <markveidemanis> I need a new mod for survival
13:06 kaeza firearms :D
13:06 markveidemanis Im testing that now
13:08 VanessaE markveidemanis: homedecor ;)
13:08 markveidemanis I want to reload...
13:08 markveidemanis kaea
13:09 markveidemanis kaeza
13:09 kaeza markveidemanis, shift+click
13:10 kaeza (I should put that on the topic)
13:10 markveidemanis BAZOOKA
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13:13 kaeza markveidemanis, the ultimate griefing tool >:D
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13:13 kaeza I should also make terrain destruction disableable
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13:17 markveidemanis Lol too laggy
13:17 markveidemanis What about protection mods?
13:21 markveidemanis I need 2 teams to play on my server...
13:21 markveidemanis FPS STYLE
13:22 markveidemanis But first i need to make a map
13:23 markveidemanis I had in mind dust2
13:25 TheBonsai heh
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13:30 Nore hello
13:30 RealBadAngel hi
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13:31 VanessaE morning hmmmm, Nore
13:31 Nore hello
13:31 Nore does someone think that the force load pull will ever be merged?
13:32 Nore https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606
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13:42 markveidemanis My server is up, building a FPS map
13:42 markveidemanis kaeza plz join
13:42 markveidemanis the guns look all the same to me lol
13:42 kaeza markveidemanis, I can join for a couple mins
13:42 markveidemanis flat or normal?
13:42 kaeza IP?
13:42 kaeza dunno
13:42 kaeza I'd prefer flat
13:43 markveidemanis What would be good for a map?
13:43 markveidemanis ok
13:43 kaeza also, add maptools and worldedit
13:43 kaeza they may come in handy for FPS map making
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13:44 markveidemanis I think its up, check on the list
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13:44 kaeza using latest git I presume
13:44 markveidemanis yep
13:45 VanessaE think I'll head off to sleep now.
13:45 markveidemanis as of yesterday
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13:45 kaeza good night/day VanessaE
13:45 markveidemanis the grass pisses me off...
13:45 markveidemanis i need a good viewing range
13:45 markveidemanis viewing_range_nodes_min does that make a difference...
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13:46 Monster Hi all!
13:46 kaeza markveidemanis, name of your server?
13:46 kaeza hi Monster
13:46 markveidemanis is 30-50 good?
13:46 markveidemanis Mark Veidemanis' Testing server
13:46 kaeza nope
13:46 markveidemanis messed that up...
13:46 kaeza it's not on Public list
13:46 Monster I have problem with logging in on forum
13:46 markveidemanis 86.172.129.44
13:46 Monster Can anyone help me?
13:46 sfan5 !up 86.172.129.44
13:46 ShadowBot sfan5: 86.172.129.44:30000 is up (0.759ms)
13:46 sfan5 !up 86.172.129.44
13:46 ShadowBot sfan5: 86.172.129.44:30000 is up (0.343ms)
13:47 markveidemanis is  MIN 30 MAX 50 a good viewing range?
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13:47 markveidemanis For a netbook
13:47 kaeza dunno, test it maybe?
13:48 markveidemanis Not that good but no lag either
13:48 Monster Can anyone help me?
13:48 kaeza there... connecting...
13:48 markveidemanis i pressed -
13:48 markveidemanis fail...
13:48 kaeza Monster, what problem?
13:48 Monster I have a problem with logging in on forum
13:48 kaeza yes... what problem?
13:49 kaeza inb4 forum thinks you are a bot
13:49 kaeza markveidemanis, hory shet what mods do you have in there??
13:49 Monster Each time a try to log in, it says: Sorry, but we think you are bot. You cant login on this forum.
13:50 kaeza this thing is taking forevar
13:50 markveidemanis not that many...
13:50 Monster I don't understand why
13:50 markveidemanis firearms, moreblocks
13:50 markveidemanis skins
13:50 kaeza Monster, using Chrome on Windows?
13:50 Monster Yeah
13:50 kaeza thexyz, ^
13:50 kaeza same problem as me
13:51 kaeza markveidemanis, almost in
13:51 Monster So, i should use any other browser?
13:52 sfan5 try firefox
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13:54 sfan5 !server
13:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Sunrisetest | sunrisetest.no-ip.org | Clients: 2/11 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.106
13:54 Monster Yay, in Firefox everything is OK :D
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13:59 kaeza markveidemanis, I timed out
13:59 kaeza markveidemanis, also, I'm colorblind, so don't ask about colors, mkay?
13:59 markveidemanis ok
14:00 sfan5 announcing a minetest server takes ages...
14:04 markveidemanis ok, done something for lag
14:04 markveidemanis i recommend you copy common/default/textures into /textures
14:05 kaeza markveidemanis, I suggest you disable the generation of smoke particles in firearms
14:05 markveidemanis how?
14:05 markveidemanis I made the m4 have 120 ammo...
14:05 kaeza ok give me a sec or two
14:05 kaeza I will do so on my repo with an option to enable
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14:10 khonkhortisan 2.39GiB later, I realized I downloaded a vmware image when I have virtualbox.
14:11 kaeza markveidemanis, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-firearms
14:11 kaeza pull/re-clone/download
14:11 markveidemanis Can you make a really fast bullet?
14:12 markveidemanis I may add the cannon mod too..
14:12 kaeza really fast bullet?
14:12 kaeza lol
14:12 kaeza bullets are now insta-hit
14:13 khonkhortisan but you can't dodge a fast bullet
14:14 markveidemanis an animation
14:15 markveidemanis Maybe a hud addon
14:15 markveidemanis but i want to see that im shooting
14:15 enchilado Will there be enemies in Starbound that are higher than the screen?
14:15 kaeza khonkhortisan, curve the bullet!
14:15 kaeza enchilado, wut
14:15 enchilado I dunno, kaeza
14:16 enchilado I fought the Deerclops in Don't Starve today for the first time and it's flipping massive, so I wondered if there would be big enemies in Starbound!
14:16 enchilado Wow
14:16 enchilado Wrong channel
14:16 enchilado Now I understand your confusion
14:16 kaeza lol
14:16 enchilado I should sleep
14:16 kaeza np
14:16 enchilado Well, the channel was irrelevant anyway
14:17 enchilado I can simply:
14:17 enchilado s/Starbound/Minetest
14:17 enchilado /
14:17 enchilado And then everything is fixed
14:17 sfan5 then the answer is no
14:17 enchilado sfan5: oh :(
14:17 khonkhortisan that's too scary for us
14:17 enchilado I suppose "higher than the screen" doesn't really work for a 3D game
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14:18 sfan5 yeah
14:18 enchilado That's probably why I meant to say that in the channel for a platformer :(
14:18 enchilado But really I just need to find somewhere to talk about Don't Starve. I wonder if there is a channel on freenode
14:19 sfan5 !g don't starve IRC
14:19 Exio enchilado: talk with chanserv, he'll like to talk
14:19 sfan5 ...
14:19 kaeza !g giyf
14:19 enchilado sfan5: or /msg alis list *starve*
14:19 sfan5 minetestbot times out again
14:20 kaeza ShadowBot, google something
14:20 MinetestBot was kicked by sfan5: MinetestBot
14:20 * ShadowBot wakes up
14:20 sfan5 !g don't starve IRC
14:20 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: "g" is not a valid command.
14:20 sfan5 *sigh*
14:20 enchilado Poor MinetestBot :(
14:20 kaeza !google don't starve IRC
14:20 ShadowBot kaeza: IRC - Dont Starve Wiki: <http://dontstarvewiki.net/index.php/IRC>; IRC Channel - Klei Entertainment Forums: <http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3676-IRC-Channel>; CBA IRC! — Cloudboat Armada: <http://cloudboatarmada.com/2013/01/27/cba-irc/>; Icrontic IRC « Icrontic: <http://icrontic.com/irc>; "Dont Starve" came out today. Any thoughts on it? : Games - Reddit: (2 more messages)
14:20 kaeza whoa
14:20 sfan5 wat?
14:20 kaeza too much content
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14:21 sfan5 !g don't starve IRC
14:21 MinetestBot sfan5: http://dontstarvewiki.net/index.php/IRC
14:21 khonkhortisan ShadowBot, the command "!g" runs the command "!google"
14:21 khonkhortisan <ShadowBot> Okay, I'll remember that.
14:23 kaeza markveidemanis, there is HUD support in firearms
14:23 kaeza markveidemanis, probably you are using an older version
14:24 kaeza s/are/were/
14:24 Exio kaeza: i wonder
14:24 markveidemanis Good mods for a FPS map?
14:24 Exio would you be able to make a "fake bullet" with particles?
14:24 kaeza Exio, I want to avoid particles
14:25 Exio why?
14:25 Exio they can be disabled in the client
14:25 kaeza 1) they lag servers, 2) they are buggy
14:25 Exio ? servers
14:25 * ShadowBot wakes up
14:26 kaeza Exio, derp, got that wrong
14:26 Exio kaeza: what
14:26 kaeza I meant entities
14:27 Exio particles != entities :P
14:27 kaeza but I wonder if I can use particles...
14:30 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6XMrCqUbXE
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14:48 sfan5 hi MinetestBot
14:48 MinetestBot Hello sfan5!
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15:01 harrison i also greet thee, blithe MinetestBot
15:01 harrison hello MinetestBot
15:01 MinetestBot Hey harrison!
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15:05 bcnjr5 Hello.
15:05 * Calinou managed to load 256x pack in MC
15:05 Calinou 3500MB of RAM used, 1145MB of VRAM
15:05 Calinou 1261MB... only 19MB left now
15:06 bcnjr5 You have 3500MB of RAM?
15:07 bcnjr5 That's bigger than my hard drive!
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15:07 markveidemanis small hard drive lol
15:07 Calinou out of 8GB
15:07 Calinou I still have 120FPS with 16× aniso and 256× pack
15:07 Calinou far+fancy
15:08 bcnjr5 ﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
15:08 Calinou with 16× pack and no aniso, I can get 300+ easily
15:09 bcnjr5 Huh.
15:09 bcnjr5 Have you seen VanessaE's server yet?
15:10 markveidemanis I need some materials to build a shooter map
15:10 markveidemanis What mods?
15:10 markveidemanis I dont really care about interior
15:10 bcnjr5 firearms
15:10 kaeza maptools, worldedit
15:12 sfan5 worldedit!!!!111!!!!one!!111eleven \o/
15:13 PilzAdam worldedit++ FTW
15:13 markveidemanis i have all that
15:13 Calinou bcnjr5: yes
15:13 markveidemanis For BUILDING it
15:14 bcnjr5 Just browse the forums. There are only about 20 pages.
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15:22 kaeza Calinou, coming soon: rocket jump :>
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15:28 Calinou add plasmaguns and plasmajump too >:o
15:29 bcnjr5 *facepalm* I just ruined my house.
15:29 Exio kaeza: did you try the stuff with particles?
15:29 markveidemanis Oo it can break glass...
15:31 kaeza Exio, I'm currently splitting it into a modpack as described in the topic
15:32 kaeza markveidemanis, U liek?
15:32 Exio ah k
15:32 markveidemanis yep, glass break is good, just like in minecraft
15:34 markveidemanis But try to make it more like the minecraft one
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15:34 markveidemanis real bullets
15:34 markveidemanis and not 3 for the m3
15:34 markveidemanis *m4
15:34 markveidemanis 1, or hold and rapid
15:35 kaeza will take note of that
15:35 kaeza (BTW, the *real* M4 Carbine has selective burst fire and auto fire)
15:36 markveidemanis also have some aim/motivation/idea:
15:36 markveidemanis Its a cold evening and im setting foot upon a forest to shoot some cows
15:36 markveidemanis And:
15:36 markveidemanis I am in a war situation, Melee, Close up, Sniper
15:37 kaeza ...so?
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15:42 markveidemanis add a sniper
15:42 markveidemanis and knives
15:44 harrison knives out
15:44 harrison kill the mouse
15:45 markveidemanis add maybe mobs
15:46 markveidemanis I get lonely :(
15:46 markveidemanis that shoot at me or are on my team
15:46 harrison or both
15:46 harrison Lieutenant Frag
15:46 markveidemanis yeh, thats what i do :)
15:48 bcnjr5 gotta go
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15:53 markveidemanis ima play some FPS and get ideas
15:53 markveidemanis How do i switch windows on lubuntu?
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15:54 markveidemanis bas...
15:54 markveidemanis do you have openarena
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15:54 markveidemanis ...anyone
15:56 Calinou kaeza: it also has semiauto :P
15:56 Calinou markveidemanis: I have OA
15:56 Calinou want to play? 8D
15:56 markveidemanis sure
15:57 markveidemanis idk the server stuff
15:57 markveidemanis i want wrack_dm
15:57 markveidemanis the classic one
15:58 markveidemanis do you have a server on it/
15:59 markveidemanis 86.172.129.44
15:59 markveidemanis in 2 min
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16:02 markveidemanis nope, it doesnt work
16:02 markveidemanis calinou, whats your server?
16:13 sokomine request: make nodes be able to change their texture so that *one* stair shape can act for all stairs with the same properties (when building, how hard a stair/slab/whatever breaks, weather it can withstand fire etc. is of no intrest at all - only the texture and shape are relevant!)
16:14 sokomine it takes more than one minute to fire up my world now :-(
16:18 Calinou markveidemanis: super normal CTF
16:18 Calinou (lots of players)
16:19 * sokomine grabs some players and distributes them on minetest servers
16:20 Calinou sokomine: hello non-player
16:20 Calinou this is stupid
16:20 Calinou legit gameplay is VERY important
16:20 Calinou don't do like minecraft
16:29 sfan5 markveidemanis:
16:29 sfan5 CHAT: <markveidemanis> wheres my stick
16:29 sfan5 really?
16:29 sfan5 you need 2 players to spleef
16:29 markveidemanis what?
16:29 Calinou markveidemanis: come on super normal ctf
16:29 sfan5 you were on my server
16:29 Calinou on openarena
16:30 markveidemanis I cant find it
16:30 markveidemanis How do i search
16:30 * sfan5 feels like he needs to buy a faster reacting mouse...
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16:31 Calinou markveidemanis: search by amount of players
16:31 Calinou it has 14 players or so
16:31 Calinou sfan5: wired ftw
16:31 Calinou but 1000hz polling is just marketing BS
16:32 Calinou 125hz is fine
16:32 * sfan5 haz wireless
16:32 sfan5 *aims at Calinou* *clicks* *shot by Calinou*
16:33 * sokomine looks a bit puzzled at calinou
16:34 Calinou wireless mouse lol
16:35 Calinou sokomine: why puzzled?
16:35 celeron55 i don't understand why anyone would use a wireless mouse or keyboard 8/
16:35 sokomine about your comment about legit gameplay. don't really understand what you're trying to say
16:35 celeron55 i use because my non-wireless one broke and i just happen to have a very old wireless one that a friend once gave to me 8)
16:36 sfan5 celeron55: i use a wireless mouse because i dislike cables
16:36 sokomine oh, i bought one once as well. apart from trouble with having to insert batteries, there's the added insecurity. also, a keyboard without/far away from the monitor proved less useful
16:37 celeron55 this keyboard has pathetic transmit power, it won't work from 1 meter away from the receiver 8)
16:37 sfan5 thats todays technology ;)
16:37 celeron55 (yes, it is OLD)
16:37 Calinou insecurity lo
16:38 Calinou hey, linux graphics are insecure, they use a server
16:38 sfan5 oh god! panic!!!!!1!!!1 panic 11!11111!!!!
16:38 Exio http://i.imgur.com/Xbik2.gif
16:38 Calinou ^ how people felt when the ext4 corruption bug appeared on reddit
16:38 Calinou yet it was nothing
16:38 celeron55 anyone with a 27Mhz or so receiver and some computery plugged into it (not rare of today's radio amateurs) can receive and decode my typings
16:39 celeron55 otoh, nobody can connect to my X server
16:39 celeron55 it will just say "gtfo"
16:39 sokomine and what does gtfo mean? :-)
16:40 sokomine the x server can at least be protected relatively easy if there's no need to access it from outside
16:40 sfan5 !g gtfo
16:40 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gtfo
16:40 sfan5 ^ sokomine
16:40 Exio get the fuck out
16:40 sokomine ah. very friendly greeting from the server then :-)
16:40 Exio lol
16:40 sfan5 theres no friendlier greeting ;)
16:41 sokomine and if someone says "hello" you run away in panic? :)
16:42 Exio the other way is taking something and pushing it inside that someone
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16:43 markveidemanis !g froomgincasin
16:44 sokomine welll....as long as it's tcp or udp packages........
16:46 jordan4ibanez Pitivi doesn't suck ass anymore! \o/
16:47 PilzAdam when I read mauvebic's posts in the colored light topic I think that he thinks that colored lighting is the most important feature in the whole game
16:47 PilzAdam "As for colored lights, I can name two similar games that have it (BS, MC). But if all people want to do is copy MC without ever matching or beating it, then yes this is a waste of time."
16:48 sokomine no, i don't think he considers it the most important feature. just a very intresting one, a very desirable one
16:48 Exio i really want client-side prediction for more things
16:48 kaeza urban dictionary: "kill": to make one un-alive
16:48 kaeza lol
16:48 Exio and i have no fucking idea how to code it properly
16:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: it ignores you
16:49 Exio sokomine: knives
16:49 * Calinou got smokinguns to run :>
16:49 Calinou 32 bit in 64 bit ftw
16:49 * sokomine looks frightened! knives, smoking guns....very dangerous!
16:55 sfan5 would anyone like to join my spleefing server?
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16:58 sokomine no, sorry, not intrested in spleefing. go on a server with many young players and i'm sure you'd get many that would enjoy a game
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16:59 sdzen spleef you say?
16:59 sdzen yes please
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17:01 mauvebic PilzAdam most important, no lol i consider it simple and obvious
17:02 RealBadAngel what do we think is important and obvious means absolutely nothin to PilzAdam
17:02 mauvebic what happens when someone asks for tinted glass, that sortof thing
17:03 Exio mauvebic: does MC has colored lighting?
17:03 Exio i never saw real colored lighting, and they have a buggy tinted glass - in any case
17:03 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, read logs of -dev, c55 has forgotten to re-add you
17:04 sdzen hey pilzadam, I just looked at your simple mobs mod again after like a month or three of not using it
17:05 sdzen I think it should be added to the default
17:05 sdzen if only for the reason that it works
17:05 mauvebic MC and BS have it, haven't looked at other similar games but im curious
17:05 markveidemanis hi
17:06 markveidemanis Im on the sunrisetest server...
17:06 markveidemanis what mod makes items 3d?
17:06 sokomine the simple mobs are too much focussed on hostile mobs imho
17:07 sdzen so what
17:07 sdzen so were the old default mobs
17:07 sdzen :)
17:07 sokomine they ought to be friendly. keeping sheep and cows on a meadow for decorative purposes is much more fun :-)
17:08 sokomine on the other hand...on one server (don't remember which one) i encountered what looked like dirt monsters. they didn't harm me in any way. there where also the blocky sheep models from pavel_s
17:08 sdzen I would just like only the DMs, Rats, and oerkki's
17:09 sdzen I don't care about the sheep
17:09 sdzen but I suppose they are a nice thing to have
17:10 sokomine the dm are ok to a degree because they have those vaults they live in. those are intresting to explore and add buildings of a degree to the game
17:11 sdzen oerkki serve as something to run from in caves
17:12 sdzen and rats can still be cooked I assume?
17:12 sokomine perhaps. without hunger, there's no need to kill them
17:12 Calinou sdzen: simplemobs
17:13 Calinou sokomine: dirt monsters are harmful btw
17:13 Calinou the server was probably running an outdated copy of simplemobs
17:13 Calinou Exio: it doesn't
17:13 sdzen I know Calinou, thats what we are speaking about :)
17:13 Calinou Exio: tinted glass? that was in minecraft 2.0
17:13 Exio Calinou: :]
17:14 Exio MC doesn't, exactly
17:15 sdzen Calinou: don't you think simplemobs should be in the default?
17:15 sdzen they work
17:16 sdzen and sokomine: you need food to regenerate your health after an attack
17:19 [0gb_us] Livestock are lame though
17:19 [0gb_us] .
17:19 [0gb_us] The rats are fine, and enemies are good.
17:19 [0gb_us] But I don't like the idea of cows and sheep.
17:19 sdzen yes neither do I
17:19 sdzen it leans more towards creative
17:20 sfan5 yay! it workz
17:20 harrison i liked the original 2d rat sprite
17:20 harrison it is probably gone now
17:20 sdzen it is
17:20 sfan5 sdzen: i need you again
17:21 sdzen not very hard to put it back though
17:21 harrison my first time in a minetest server the rat lured me into a cavern from which escape was impossible
17:21 harrison i cursed the rat
17:21 harrison now i am nostalgic for the rat
17:23 sdzen there should be a setting in simple mobs that puts the old rat texture back
17:23 sdzen :)
17:25 sokomine livestock are great! they make the world more intresting and are very decorative for farms
17:25 sokomine (there are just diffrent aspects of the game people may want. others may like fighting a lot more. i don't)
17:26 NakedFury I want it all in a nice package
17:26 sdzen then enable_peaceful_mobs=true sokomine and shut up :)
17:26 sokomine what do you consider as "all"?
17:26 [0gb_us] I don't like fighting either. I typically run from hostile enemies.
17:26 Calinou lol
17:26 sokomine sdzen: they live already in my singleplayer world :-)
17:26 Kacey bbl
17:27 NakedFury non violent and violent monsters, action adventure and retire at old age to farm
17:27 sokomine even the blocky version of sheep and deer in addition to the other mobf animals
17:27 sokomine ok :-) nothing to say against that
17:28 markveidemanis who owns the sunrisetest server
17:28 sokomine only...when you're building, hostile mobs may be very annoying. the mc survival version i was running (free test phase) had that difficulty: after i finally gathered some materials and managed not to starve, some stupid mob came up and blew the building i had started
17:29 sokomine i don't know, but traxie21 seems to be working on that
17:29 sdzen I think there was a player awhile back named sunrisesunset
17:29 sdzen but I don't think its the same person
17:29 [0gb_us] Mobs that damage nodes are not good. I'm just okay with ones that go after players only.
17:29 sdzen well I don't believe there are any other then the DM in minetest
17:29 sdzen and it is underground
17:30 [0gb_us] I do most of my building underground.
17:30 sdzen so do I
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17:30 sokomine even if they just kill the player it's annoying when you're trying to build
17:31 sdzen hit them with a mese pick then
17:31 sokomine perhaps there could be a block that turns them off/lets them be non-aggressive in a certain region
17:31 sdzen the damn things are wicked weak
17:31 sokomine so it's stupid of them to attack the player. running away whenever a player approaches would be more sensible :-)
17:32 [0gb_us] Peaceful mobs are fine too. Just not LIVESTOCK.
17:32 * kaeza puts an assault rifle on [0gb_us]' head
17:32 kaeza kill the sheeps
17:32 kaeza problem solved
17:33 markveidemanis is there a mod that makes items 3d?
17:33 [0gb_us] No, problem not solved. Killing them means they're in the game, which is the problem.
17:33 kaeza better yet: grab a bazooka: free meat for everyone around the world
17:35 sfan5 !b64d pGfYUCjTAmXc+y5BvThhxNcwE9M
17:35 MinetestBot TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'Error' objects (file "/home/user/mtbot/bot.py", line 162, in <lambda>)
17:37 sfan5 PilzAdam: what did you do to make git use english?
17:37 sfan5 random announce: my spleef server now finally works
17:38 PilzAdam echo "alias git='LANG=en git'" >> ~/.bashrc
17:38 PilzAdam .~/.bashrc
17:38 PilzAdam . ~/.bashrc
17:38 sfan5 ok, thx
17:43 jordan4ibanez markveidemanis: Try Minetest Black.
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17:44 jordan4ibanez It's a game mode, but I think you could just pull the item drop from the game mode and use it.
17:46 [0gb_us] Does anyone know how to get a window manager to show up on the sessions list on Ubuntu? I installed kde-window-manager, but I can't switch into it. And Google doesn't return any relevant results.
17:50 [0gb_us] Never mind. I just realized I have a better place to ask.
17:50 * arsdragonfly uses openbox
17:52 [0gb_us] How do you do it in Openbox?
17:53 jordan4ibanez "If yes, then, as far as I know, the "correct approach" for adding a window manager to the list of session options presented to user at login time is to add a .desktop file to /usr/share/xsessions. Take an existing .desktop file there as starting point (say, gnome.desktop) and modify fields like Exec, TryExec, Icon to suit your new WM."
17:53 [0gb_us] (The people in ##linux are ignoring me.)
17:53 [0gb_us] jordan4ibanez: Thank you!
17:56 jordan4ibanez No problem.
17:58 kaeza [0gb_us], not all channels are as active as this one, even for important topics like linux
17:59 kaeza heck, sometimes you must wait more than a full day to get a response on #lua
17:59 [0gb_us] kaeza: They are talking to each other, but not responding to me. It's not a matter of activity level.
18:00 kaeza ah I see
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18:07 jordan4ibanez So on Twitter, we can post as much as we want?
18:08 * ShadowBot wakes up
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18:09 sfan5 !server addr:.us
18:09 MinetestBot sfan5: 0gb.us's simple server | 0gb.us | Clients: 1/12 | Version: 0.4.6 0gb.us | ping: 0.287
18:09 sfan5 \o/
18:09 sfan5 !server players:most
18:09 MinetestBot sfan5: WazuClan.com | wazuclan.com | Clients: 13/13 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.218
18:10 [0gb_us] Wow, I'm lame. I installed it in a VirtualBox, and now I'm searching for it outside the VirtualBox, on my main system.
18:10 sfan5 !server players:least
18:10 MinetestBot sfan5: sfan5's Spleefing Server | 79.235.5.178 | Clients: 0/3 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.118
18:10 sfan5 !server players:<1
18:10 MinetestBot KeyError: 'gameid' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 101, in server)
18:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: hmmm, back to porting...
18:11 ShadowNinja This shouldn't be that hard at least
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18:12 sfan5 !server players:<1
18:12 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest❤Ru | minetest.ru | Clients: 0/10 | Version: 0.4.5 | ping: 0.103
18:13 sfan5 !server players:>20
18:13 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
18:13 MinetestBot TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 98, in server)
18:13 jordan4ibanez Minetest <3 Ru. Lol.
18:13 sfan5 !server addr:sunrise
18:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Sunrisetest | sunrisetest.no-ip.org | Clients: 2/11 | Version: 0.4.6 minitest | ping: 0.109
18:15 markveidemanis ❤
18:15 markveidemanis Hmmm...
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18:17 Calinou mmmph
18:17 Calinou 14 users on wazu :O
18:18 ShadowNinja !server players:1
18:18 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: cosarara97's | casa.delclos.com | Clients: 1/4 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.138
18:18 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 0gb.us's simple server | 0gb.us | Clients: 1/12 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.312
18:19 jordan4ibanez Now I have all this software that makes all the things I used to wish I could do on Linux easily possible. :D
18:20 ShadowNinja My bot ignores the channel quiet for admins, usefull but sometimes anoying
18:20 jordan4ibanez How is that useful?
18:21 Exio seems legit
18:21 Exio an ocean what goes "down" to -95
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18:30 Calinou !server players:0
18:30 MinetestBot Calinou: Minetest❤Ru | minetest.ru | Clients: 0/10 | Version: 0.4.5 | ping: 0.098
18:30 Calinou !server players:-1
18:30 MinetestBot Calinou: sfan5's Spleefing Server | 79.235.5.178 | Clients: 0/3 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.120
18:30 Calinou lol
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18:46 * Exio slaps ShadowBot
18:46 jordan4ibanez Oh, in todays update, now you can drop desktop launchers into the unity launcher. Cool.
18:46 celeron55 !server players:>1000
18:46 MinetestBot celeron55: No results
18:46 MinetestBot TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 155, in server)
18:46 sfan5 MinetestBot: wat?
18:47 troller .py
18:47 sfan5 my awkwardly forgot a return
18:49 jordan4ibanez Yay, debug info!
18:49 * ShadowBot wakes up
18:49 sfan5 *m
18:49 sfan5 **me
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18:49 sfan5 !server players:>1000
18:49 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
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18:54 sdzen pilzadam http://ompldr.org/vaThveQ/screenshot_1289100887.png
18:54 sdzen please tell me this is some sort of sick joke :P
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18:58 PilzAdam sdzen, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6e4fdf37baaeaf1048210e5519822ebd68dd413b
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19:00 jojoa1997 good afternoon
19:00 sdzen well I can't update minetest every day so.... (scitters away)
19:01 jordan4ibanez Someone should make it so you can't eat food if your health is full.
19:05 jordan4ibanez I just realized that nodeboxes lag because your client doesn't get if there are textures blocking the texture of the face that is being rendered, doing that would also make it so you cannot see underground caves/lava pools, but would be very hard to code.
19:06 Exio lol sdzen
19:06 Exio nice screenshot
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19:09 jordan4ibanez RealBadAngel: http://goo.gl/rQcvb What does this look like exactly?
19:09 Exio worldedit ate 9 gb of my poor ram
19:09 Exio i need moar!
19:12 PilzAdam Exio, try worldedit++
19:12 Exio PilzAdam: what does it do more cooler than WE?
19:12 Exio i just did a //set air with.... millions of blocks
19:12 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp
19:13 PilzAdam no lag while executing a command
19:13 PilzAdam you can just keep on doing other stuff
19:13 Exio does it have //fixlight?
19:13 Exio (as i still didn't check it)
19:14 PilzAdam yes
19:14 PilzAdam its /fixlight, though
19:14 Exio ah
19:14 PilzAdam just read the README
19:16 Exio k
19:22 kaeza bbl
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19:41 iqualfragile thexyz: whats up with https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
19:53 Calinou \o/ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/126
19:53 Calinou thanks kahrl :p
19:56 mauvebic wow, thats an old issue lol
20:01 [0gb_us] Hmm. When I install kde-window-manager, I can't get it to run. But when I install the full kubuntu-desktop, I get a bunch of junk with it. There's got to be a way to use KDE without installing extra web browsers and other junk.
20:02 Exio using a proper distro? >:D
20:02 Exio [0gb_us]: the window manager will install only kwin, not kde
20:02 Calinou [0gb_us], you can remove them
20:02 Exio install kde4-base or some package like that for a "basic" system
20:02 [0gb_us] Ubuntu is a proper distribution.
20:02 Calinou just install kubuntu-desktop and stop being a "KISS" guy
20:02 Calinou don't like it? don't use it!
20:02 * Calinou eats something
20:03 [0gb_us] kubuntu-desktop clutters my menu with junk, making it hard to use.
20:03 Calinou you can edit your menu
20:03 Calinou and you probably don't use your menu every 10 minutes
20:03 [0gb_us] Or, I can avoid installing junk.
20:03 Calinou you'll spend more time avoiding junk though.
20:03 Exio Calinou: kdebase
20:03 Exio or kde-base, or some package like that
20:03 Calinou installing a DE by hand is stupid
20:04 Exio will install what he wants
20:04 Calinou there are metapackages for a reason
20:04 Exio kde-base is a metapackage, :)
20:04 [0gb_us] I'd rather do things the way that is right in the long run, not the way that is easy in the short run.
20:04 Exio it is installs kwin, konqueror, and kde
20:04 Exio kubutnu-desktop installs kde + crap of ubuntu
20:04 Calinou says the guy who has bought a PC from an OEM
20:04 Calinou :>
20:04 Calinou Exio, it doesn't install crap of ubuntu, it installs what is best for running it
20:04 [0gb_us] I don't want konqueror, that's one of the extra applications.
20:05 Calinou sudo apt-get remove konqueror
20:05 Calinou not using a DE's file manager is risky and not recommended by the way
20:05 Calinou nautilus with xfce sucks, thunar with gnome sucks, and so on
20:05 [0gb_us] Wait, konqueror isn't the web browser?
20:05 Calinou it does both
20:05 Calinou but now reconq is also the web browser
20:05 Exio and dolphin the file manager
20:06 Exio konqueror was both (and is, but not used by default) in kde3
20:06 [0gb_us] Okay. I'll reset the system and try installing kde-base.
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20:19 [0gb_us] Drats.
20:19 [0gb_us] E: Unable to locate package kde-base
20:19 Exio kdebase, or so
20:19 Exio apt-cache kde | grep base :P
20:19 Exio or w/e
20:19 Exio apt-cache search kde *
20:21 [0gb_us] Too much output.
20:21 * [0gb_us] wishes there was an easy way, but thinks there may not be
20:22 Calinou lol Pentium44, nice name you have there
20:22 Xeon66 :>
20:22 sdzen haha kde is a bitch
20:22 PilzAdam just apt-cache show kde-base<tab><tab> will show you all the base packages for KDE
20:22 PilzAdam -just
20:22 PilzAdam --
20:22 Pentium44 lol thanks Calinou
20:23 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: What did you do to install KDE? Did you just install it including all the junk that comes with it?
20:24 PilzAdam I just downloaded the KDE iso
20:24 PilzAdam and removed all the apps that I dont want after that
20:25 sdzen which as per KDE, there has to be version of everything
20:25 sdzen :)
20:25 Xeon66 Pentium44, you should make the P lowercase
20:25 [0gb_us] This is why I use gnome-fallback ...
20:26 [0gb_us] Having a name start with a lower case letter looks like you don't have enough self respect to capitalize. Proper nouns, such as names, should be capitalized.
20:26 [0gb_us] Xenorax: ^
20:27 Xeon66 [0gb_us], ceIeron55 has lowercase c
20:27 [0gb_us] I know.
20:27 [0gb_us] As do many people.
20:27 Xeon66 the whole Pentium44 thing is a joke, celeron-pentium-xeon
20:27 [0gb_us] But no point encouraging others to use lower case.
20:29 i7_8x2[dot]93GHz better
20:30 Calinou there are no octacore i7s
20:30 Calinou hyperthreading just creates logical cores, these are called "threads" :P
20:31 SerenumDominiZen to use my full title
20:35 sfan5 bad argument #-2 to 'set_node' << wat?
20:36 Xenorax 0gb_us, what the hell?
20:36 Xenorax I always capitalize my name, If it isn't capitalized, then I must have mistyped it by accident and then failed to notice it.
20:37 Xenorax Please, try not to assume things like that, because you make yourself look like a simple-minded prick. Mmkay?
20:38 Calinou Xenorax, he was talking to me
20:38 Calinou he failed his highlight ;)
20:38 [0gb_us] Maybe I typed the wrong name, but someone was encouraging lower case names. Someone who ironically had a capitalized name.
20:38 SerenumDominiZen and drugs are bad Mmkay?
20:38 Xenorax And yet he hilighted me.
20:38 Calinou my name was Xeon66
20:38 Calinou SerenumDominiZen, teamkilling is bad mkay?
20:38 Xenorax So I told him as such.
20:38 Calinou SerenumDominiZen was kicked for being a TK assclown.
20:38 Calinou [0gb_us], that was me
20:38 Xenorax Again, being assumptious is still digging you into an even deeper hole.
20:39 Xenorax Plus. Didn't Calinou do something to help the developmet of Minetest? Or am I thinking of someone else?
20:39 Xenorax You should treat him/her with respect.
20:39 Calinou a bit, yea
20:40 [0gb_us] I was disagreeing with the idea, not disrespecting anyone.
20:40 Xenorax Be careful, [0gb_us] (Which ironically is a really stupid name anyway, because names starting with something like that are also dumb), because you'll soon hit lava, and you're not in creative.
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20:40 SerenumDominiZen well now that controversy has spread there is only 1 choice
20:40 * Xenorax is going back to doing what he was doing before.
20:41 Xenorax Let this be a lesson that you shouldn't hilight the wrong person.
20:41 [0gb_us] My name is stupid. I realized too late, and have been facing it ever since. I know that.
20:41 [0gb_us] Xenorax: Sorry.
20:44 thexyz iqualfragile: nothing, i guess
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20:51 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Avoid prepending "Server -!- " to WorldEdit messages. 20722389bd 2013-04-27T13:42:51-07:00 http://git.io/yXXAuA
20:52 PilzAdam worldedit++ has that feature since forever ;-)
20:52 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge remote-tracking branch 'refs/remotes/origin/master' 163384f308 2013-04-27T13:52:17-07:00 http://git.io/PlPBNw
20:52 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Avoid prepending "Server -!- " to messages sent using the command block. d4f18d08c0 2013-04-27T13:51:00-07:00 http://git.io/Q3eXYg
20:52 NakedFury I have a feeling worldedit is gonna run out of pluses
20:54 NakedFury new name. worldedit^2
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20:58 Calinou PilzAdam, BSD devs said "BSD has that feature since forever" when linux devs added ZFS to linux? :>
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21:02 ShadowNinja PONG :-(
21:02 ShadowNinja Now back to recoding what you just did...
21:03 sfan5 ShadowNinja: have you added ping: and i: to ShadowBot ?
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21:17 iqualfragile thexyz: thats sad
21:24 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/kjGLEhe.png Lol.
21:26 thexyz yes
21:27 john_minetest *uberfacepalm*... just wrote "if(Player::animstate = 1)" and took several HOURS to realize what I have done wrong...
21:34 john_minetest jordan4ibanez: The picture looks like a psychologist. "Very interesting... I think this is all due to a bad childhood... *scratch beard*"
21:34 jordan4ibanez Perfect. :D
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22:02 VanessaE hi all
22:05 [0gb_us] Hey, VanessaE.
22:06 VanessaE hey
22:06 Calinou hi
22:06 Calinou and 'night
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22:06 Calinou it's sunday already >:o
22:07 jojoa1997 hi all
22:08 [0gb_us] Hey, jojoa1997.
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22:25 drizz god damn I hate creating certificates
22:25 drizz "State or Province Name" (Ò囗Óױ)
22:25 drizz we don't have any :<
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22:27 * jojoa1997 hands drizz a certificate
22:29 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: New commands //hollowdome and //dome, as well as new API functions worldedit.dome and worldedit.hollow_dome. Oh, and spheres generate faster too. 71b6004b92 2013-04-27T15:28:20-07:00 http://git.io/zAi5aA
22:30 jojoa1997 that is a long commit description
22:34 jordan4ibanez Idea: If someone uses the seed "Minecraft", the terrain generation just generates the word "NO" over and over again in each map block.
22:35 jojoa1997 good idea
22:35 [0gb_us] YES. Except that only integer seeds are suported.
22:35 [0gb_us] *supported
22:35 jojoa1997 lol
22:35 jordan4ibanez Why aren't letters converted into numbers?
22:35 jojoa1997 what if in minecraft you used the seed "Minetest" and the gerain generates NO
22:36 jordan4ibanez I tried, it just generates like normal.
22:36 [0gb_us] I have to go to work. See you later.
22:36 * jojoa1997 watching "The Hunchback of Notre Dame II"
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23:15 jordan4ibanez minitest's creative changer crashes
23:16 Exio blame jojoa
23:22 jordan4ibanez I think I just thought of the most insane thing yet, a 3d crafting bench.
23:26 jordan4ibanez Why do we even have a wooden pickaxe? How would you even mine with a wood pickaxe?
23:26 VanessaE how else would you get cobble to make a stone pick?
23:27 jordan4ibanez Find a rock on the ground. Put it onto a stick. Jump off a cliff and break the ground with your body.
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23:27 VanessaE heh
23:28 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: but one could as well ask, how can you fell a tree without an axe or saw?
23:29 jordan4ibanez With a rock.
23:29 jordan4ibanez Hit rock against rocks multiple times, randomly you will get a sharp rock.
23:29 VanessaE so what's needed then is a mod with a mapgen hook that adds small pieces of cobble just lying on the ground here and there, very sporadically.
23:29 VanessaE I think celeron55 suggested that idea a while back.
23:30 jordan4ibanez Cut down small trees with sharp rock, and get wood.
23:30 NakedFury like flowers but instead small rocks, like pebbles?
23:30 VanessaE get rid of wooden tools entirely, use those rocks to build a primitive pick/axe combination tool that's good for maybe a dozen uses.
23:30 jordan4ibanez Get another rock, attach to wood with plant fibre, break soft rocks.
23:31 NakedFury qwood tools dont make sense.  I would understand a wood club as a weapon
23:31 Exio if there is going to have that, a stranded-like way would be useful
23:31 jordan4ibanez For generating small rocks, use the grass spawning method.
23:31 VanessaE celeron55, hmmmm, how about it?
23:32 VanessaE strictly a survival thing of course.
23:32 Exio did anyone here play stranded2?
23:32 Exio when you push a rock with your bare hands - it may drop pebbles or a "heavy rock"
23:32 Exio more normally, pebble
23:33 Exio meh, night
23:33 VanessaE naw, there's way too much stone in a map (as in, 99.99999% of the map).  this needs to be something found only at the surface and in very limited quantities
23:33 VanessaE (maybe two of those small rocks in an 80x80x80 chunk)
23:34 jordan4ibanez I don't think there should be crafting formspecs, I think items should be placed down as nodes, and you connect them together by hitting them with something, or rightclicking them. :<
23:34 VanessaE a wooden shovel makes sense though
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23:37 jojoa1997 uh i didnt make creative changer
23:37 jojoa1997 i made inventory which uses creative changer as a base for inventoiry
23:38 jordan4ibanez I want to make the most realistic game mode, while still making it interesting :<
23:41 NakedFury jordan if they were smaller not full time nods then it would be interesting to do so
23:46 jojoa1997 jordan can ypou past the debug that caused the crash in minitest
23:50 VanessaE ok, so...let's get rid of wooden picks, axes, swords.  Keep wooden shovels, add wooden clubs.  Remove hand-digging of trees, and leaves.  Add small stones scattered around the world.   Pick up a stone by hand, use it to chop at the leaves of a tree until you get a stick.  craft stone + stick = an adze (a primitive type of pickaxe).  Use that to chop down the tree for more wood, and to mine stone VERY SLOWLY, to get cobble.  Use
23:50 VanessaE cobble + sticks to make regular stone tools as usual.
23:50 jordan4ibanez No, I uninstalled it, also this redshift program is amazing.
23:50 NakedFury good proposal vanessae
23:50 NakedFury I mean we can have many wooden weapons
23:51 NakedFury club: say 1 stick and a single wood or tree node on top
23:51 NakedFury pole or Bo: maybe 3 sticks in a column
23:51 VanessaE naw, no extra tools except what I suggested.
23:52 VanessaE club should just be three sticks in a column.
23:52 VanessaE since it replaces wooden sword, and theoretically doesn't last even as long as that.
23:52 VanessaE and should do way less damage.
23:52 VanessaE well no, about the same damage as a wooden sword
23:56 ShadowNinja hmm, I like it but think leaves should be breakable
23:56 ShadowNinja (with your hand)
23:56 VanessaE maybe
23:57 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/GmGQJur.png
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23:58 VanessaE jeez
23:59 jojoa1997|Tablet http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1q8XdAVkm0A
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23:59 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: I tried that model, it just didn't work at all for me.

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