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00:00 VanessaE no effect - there must be something getting in the way
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00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet did you overwrite the old moddle
00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet model
00:01 kahrl love the moonwalk
00:01 VanessaE I put the character.x file into vanessae_game/mods/default/models/
00:01 VanessaE deployed it to the server, restarted, logged in with two sessions to try it out - no good.  the model was unchanged.
00:02 ShadowNinja Wait what? There must be annother file that MT is using
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet OH!
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe the skin changer mod
00:03 VanessaE (note that I don't pull from common with game.conf - I include its files directly into the game directory)
00:03 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: indeed, I do use the player_textures mod
00:04 ShadowNinja Well Minetest needs to get that model from somewhere
00:04 VanessaE however I see nothing in the code that would change the mesh itself
00:04 VanessaE maybe the model needs to be not in default but somewhere else?
00:05 ShadowNinja Check default/player.lua
00:05 VanessaE Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/peaceful_npc/models/character.x
00:05 VanessaE I bet that's why.
00:05 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/VhODlXW.jpg
00:06 RealBadAngel all kinds of batboxes and wires
00:06 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: why are you including the default character.x there?  Can't that be sourced from the game?
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet where?
00:06 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: your peaceful_npc mod.
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet oh
00:07 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: I think the batbox textures should be more varied
00:08 RealBadAngel propably yes, but theres too much to texture, so (at least for haven tp) i decided to use different coulours just
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00:09 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/fXUdsFZ,FqQspQW,I0jrrAG,XaMyn5g,FJHDRZn,h9SAo6l,ZjYrxpV#0
00:13 jordan4ibanez I think pilzadam was overtired or something. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86893#p86893
00:14 ssieb what's the current version of inventory_plus?
00:14 ssieb the one I have is suddenly causing server crashes :-(
00:17 RealBadAngel would you prefer one that informs you about the crash a few minutes before? ;)
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00:18 ssieb :-P
00:18 ssieb as in it wasn't doing it before, but now it crashes the server as soon as someone connects
00:19 jojoa1997|Tablet i have to check something
00:19 jojoa1997|Tablet sorry owrong channel
00:20 RealBadAngel ssieb, post the error in mods topic
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00:21 jojoa1997 hi
00:21 * ssieb suspects it's related to some other mod, will try debugging it later
00:24 VanessaE there, peaceful npc updated to not use its own copy of character.x - now it works with the new model (and uses it too)
00:24 jojoa1997 has anyone thought of making a mod where you can have 2 item spots and you click each tool with the coresponding sides and middle button is placing
00:25 ShadowNinja That makes a lot of things harder to do, and would take a sizable chunk of code.
00:29 jordan4ibanez I wish you could at least give tools a nodebox
00:30 ShadowNinja jordan4ibanez: you can, use the nodebox drawtype
00:30 jordan4ibanez For tools?
00:32 jordan4ibanez I mean for tools not entities, ShadowNinja.
00:43 ShadowNinja Yes, you might just be able to get it to work, even if it isn't intended for that
00:44 ShadowNinja IIRC register_tool and register_node are identical except for setting type = tool/node
00:47 jordan4ibanez I can't get the wield hand to do any of that. :'<
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01:01 Kacey hey jordan4ibanez do chest keep their inventoryf node_gunned?
01:02 jordan4ibanez No, I'm too lazy to make that happen.
01:04 Kacey aaw :(
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01:30 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/ZeoENo4.png
01:31 jordan4ibanez I don't have aliasing on, why is the grassed aliased?
01:31 jordan4ibanez Grass.*
01:31 VanessaE beats me, happens on my box too.
01:31 VanessaE I think jungle tree saplings do it also?
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01:40 jordan4ibanez Instead of the server constantly trying to get things from the client, why doesn't the client just send over things when they change?
01:40 jordan4ibanez Like shift, or key presses, or pitch/yaw.
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02:29 * VanessaE pokes [0gb_us]
02:31 [0gb_us] Hmm? What? I'm awake.
02:31 VanessaE just checking.
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02:40 * [0gb_us] must leave you now
02:44 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Enhance caves for mgv7, add ravines 8767c78169 2013-04-27T19:40:52-07:00 http://git.io/tDN0fQ
02:45 VanessaE looks like v7 is really going to kick some serious ass when it's done.
02:51 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I removed the seconds timestamp but ShadowBot was probably faster, and didn't print the full timestamp for the commit, and the hash and a link that could have been one...
02:54 * ShadowNinja Wants to show you more cool stuff that ShadowBot can do, like flood protection and opping with just !op, but that requires halfops/op, and freenode doesn't have halfops, and MinetestBot is around too much for ShadowBot to do much else.
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02:55 VanessaE I'd pass it on for testing but I think I'd need approval from at least one other op
02:55 Kacey|xbox hi me!
02:56 Kacey ooh hai
02:57 ShadowNinja Well it runs well in at least three other channels, ##minetest-0gb.us, ##mt-irc-mod, and ##jesseh
02:58 ShadowNinja Oh, and this reminds me about the private #minetest-dev access list...
02:59 ShadowNinja Hmmm, OldCoder? Do you approve?
02:59 VanessaE (because having such flood protection would be useful)
03:00 OldCoder ShadowBot, Hi
03:00 OldCoder ShadowNinja, reviewing
03:01 OldCoder We could test it
03:01 VanessaE hmmmm: ping
03:01 OldCoder But if there are more bot battles toss it
03:01 ShadowNinja OK, :-)
03:01 OldCoder Bots got out of hand a while back
03:02 OldCoder VanessaE, worth a brief look maybe
03:02 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I will keep that in mind
03:02 NakedFury it was users that got out of hand with bots
03:02 hmmmm ..
03:02 hmmmm if you stop bugging me, i'll be able to get it done faster
03:02 VanessaE eh?
03:02 NakedFury same commands on bots were exploited by users
03:03 ShadowNinja My bot will ignore users if they over-use it
03:03 VanessaE nono see above re: testing his bot's anti-flood feature.
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03:03 NakedFury and flood protection is delicious
03:03 ShadowNinja !config plugins.AttackProtector.message.detection
03:03 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Global: 10p20; #minetest: 10p20
03:03 ShadowNinja !config plugins.AttackProtector.message.punishment
03:03 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Global: kick; #minetest: kick
03:04 ShadowNinja ten messages in twenty seconds -> kick
03:05 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Actually fix shader3 alpha this time d7395cd2ab 2013-04-27T20:04:52-07:00 http://git.io/nlyclA
03:05 ShadowNinja Also nick spamming, join spamming, group joins, etc
03:07 ShadowNinja Well shall we? Any questions?
03:08 NakedFury non that come to mind
03:17 ShadowNinja I disabled the dangerous anti-spam measures(+i and +m for joins, parts, etc from large groups of people), it should be ready now.
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03:20 khonkhortisan Server-side clouds, or client-side weather?
03:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan: both? :)
03:20 khonkhortisan why both?
03:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan: why not? :)
03:21 ShadowNinja There :-) you can test now if you want.
03:21 VanessaE I figured you would :)
03:22 VanessaE someone start posting lorem ipsum :)
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury lorem ipsum
03:22 NakedFury was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
03:22 ShadowNinja :-)
03:22 VanessaE hah, I didn't mean like that :)
03:23 VanessaE ShadowNinja: does it also detect a flood where it's just X number of chars over some time period?
03:23 ShadowNinja It doesn't limit length, just number
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03:23 VanessaE it should limit length to whatever the maximum typical IRC comment is, times say 3, in 5 seconds or whatever.
03:23 ShadowNinja No, I could discuss that with the developer of the plugin
03:24 VanessaE (I think IRC input maxes out at some 500 chars)
03:24 NakedFury so it worked well?
03:24 VanessaE well enough :)
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03:26 VanessaE wb
03:27 ShadowNinja You can also use !op, which is a little but faster if you Identify with it, but commands are disabled for all but admins currently to prevent conflicts with MinetestBot.
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03:28 VanessaE meh, let's keep op spreading to a minimum
03:30 VanessaE I think it's best if ShadowBot only acts as a standin for MinetestBot when it isn't here, plus the flood/spam/abuse controls.
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03:40 ShadowNinja Kicking someone 5 times will cause an automatic ban, do you want that?
03:41 VanessaE 3 times.
03:42 VanessaE but the ban should be short-lived
03:42 VanessaE say a few hours
03:42 VanessaE 5 times should earn a permban
03:42 Kacey 3 kicks within a day should be a temp ban
03:43 VanessaE I just said that.
03:43 Kacey i thought i should declare the day part
03:43 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I don't think the plugin can do temp bans, although you can add them with !iban
03:43 hmmmm if someone gets kicked 3 times, they should get banned
03:44 ShadowNinja !config plugins.AttackProtector.kicked.detection
03:44 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Global: 5p60; #minetest: 5p60
03:44 ShadowNinja five in 60 seconds, I think you would have banned by then...
03:46 ShadowNinja !config plugins.AttackProtector.kicked.detection 3p86400
03:46 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
03:47 ShadowNinja Better?
03:48 ShadowNinja Hmmm, maybe temp-bans are possible, but it would be either-or
03:50 VanessaE jeez, my client is crashy today.
03:50 ShadowNinja Bouncer :-)
03:50 khonkhortisan VanessaE, fix it
03:51 khonkhortisan valgrind, gdb, electricfence, etc.
03:52 VanessaE meh
03:53 * khonkhortisan learns that "live cd" turns into "failed to find bootable device"
03:53 khonkhortisan when in a virtual machine, that is.
03:53 [0gb_us] I had that issue today.
03:53 VanessaE oh great, it's irrlicht bring a fuck
03:54 [0gb_us] My DVD drive has issues, but rebooting fixes them.
03:55 khonkhortisan I blame irrlicht too
03:56 khonkhortisan draw2Dline stopping a pixel short
03:56 ShadowNinja If there is an op around I don't think the auto-ban will be usefull, but if there isn't it would be usefull against spam attacks as it would get fed up eventualy
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04:32 VanessaE great, all of a sudden shaders aren't working on my client.
04:33 VanessaE no, strike that, it ain't shaders.
04:33 VanessaE it's something in irrlicht
04:36 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5611027/
04:36 VanessaE (even though shaders are turned off)
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04:49 VanessaE pain in my ass.
04:51 [0gb_us] What is?
04:51 VanessaE irrlicht.
04:52 khonkhortisan I've had that error, didn't look into it.
04:52 VanessaE I restarted the computer, re-building latest git of everything again juyst to be sure.
04:52 VanessaE just*
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04:55 VanessaE *sigh* I hate computers.
04:56 VanessaE that time, xfce-session crashed (apparently a known bug)
04:56 [0gb_us] I'm sorry you feel that way.
04:56 khonkhortisan I take that statement differently now that I have backtrack linux installed in a virtual machine
04:57 VanessaE [0gb_us]: they're great when the work right, they're shit when they (or the programs thereon) don't.
04:57 Xenorax Agreed.
04:58 VanessaE because when they fail, the error causing the failure is almost always so G*d damned cryptic that only a high-end dev can fucking understand it (I don't mean minetest in this case)
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04:58 VanessaE assuming there's an error message to begin with
04:59 khonkhortisan Errors should include urls to examples of causes?
05:00 Xenorax Yes.
05:00 Xenorax Errors should be as descriptive as possible.
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05:01 VanessaE well that's that, I can't use HDX 512px anymore.
05:01 VanessaE MT just crashes now.
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05:25 VanessaE oh sure, NOW it works.
05:26 VanessaE well, sorta
05:26 VanessaE at 3 fps.
05:27 [0gb_us] Wow.
05:28 [0gb_us] That sounds like when I tried to run Minetest on Debian.
05:28 * VanessaE sighs
05:32 VanessaE hmmmm: your alpha fix seems to work well here (assuming it isn't causing the above-mentioned issue, which I doubt)
05:33 hmmmm sounds horrible
05:33 hmmmm what i did has nothing to do with what you're experiencing
05:33 VanessaE I didn't think so.
05:38 VanessaE well at least, homedecor uses it by default now, for the one object there that really needed it.
05:38 VanessaE (the fancy door)
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05:41 jordan4ibanez This is very harsh. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86870#p86870 I could not find the resources to learn c++.
05:43 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: he's right in a way - In this day and age, if you don't even have the skills to look up a tutorial in your chosen language, is it really safe to assume the ability to code even exists at all?
05:43 [0gb_us] If you use Google (as opposed to Bing, or something), it's not hard to find C++ learning resources.
05:45 jordan4ibanez I googled C++ tutorials for 3 weeks, and all I learned is how to write basic hello world functions. The tuts for C++ are horrendous.
05:45 jordan4ibanez The main issue is difficulty tiers, they jump from something easy, to something complex right off.
05:46 khonkhortisan I've never touched a <template>
05:48 jordan4ibanez I remember that I found one that was spot on, but when the tutor talked about booleans for a half hour, I kind of nodded off.
05:48 hmmmm oh god
05:48 hmmmm learning C++ just like that must be horrible
05:48 hmmmm learn C first so you actually understand what's going on
05:50 jordan4ibanez What is the difference between C# and C++?
05:50 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: BASIC probably has more in common with C++ than C# does ;)
05:50 [0gb_us] C# is the microsoft fork, or so I'm told
05:51 VanessaE [0gb_us]: I thought it was their equivalent to Java or something like that?
05:51 hmmmm C# is an entirely different language
05:51 hmmmm it's microsoft's version of java
05:51 [0gb_us] Ah, got it.
05:52 jordan4ibanez Well what's the difference between C and C++ then?
05:52 VanessaE now, can someone explain this please?
05:52 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1328432103.png
05:52 hmmmm C++ is C with unnecessarily stricter type checking and a lot of syntactic sugar added
05:53 VanessaE that face between the two halves of each door.  Why?
05:53 hmmmm you look like you're about to punch that glass door in
05:53 VanessaE lol
05:53 hmmmm yeah, screw that door.
05:53 VanessaE I suppose I coulda turned off the HUD ;)
05:56 VanessaE wait, I think I know why.
05:58 VanessaE there, that fixed it
05:59 VanessaE switched to using a transparent top side for the bottom half of the door, and vice-versa.
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06:17 jordan4ibanez I'm making a mod pack called "Too much", and the main point, is to cram in as much shit as possible before Minetest starts having memory issues.
06:18 Nore why?
06:19 jordan4ibanez Well, I wanted to see if it would be worth it to push Minetest to the limit, but now I'm just doing it because it would be rediculous.
06:20 Nore do you think we will ever have force load?
06:21 sfan5 you could go to -dev and tell them why force_load is a super awesome feature and we really need it
06:21 Nore there is no one on -dev now
06:22 jordan4ibanez They probably won't listen, because someone could exploit something in some scenario it would be somewhat of a somewhat bad idea somehow, somewhere.
06:22 sfan5 Nore: there is no one on #minetest-dev ?
06:23 sfan5 you already joined that channel
06:23 Nore well, it looks like there is no one except me, but I don't know how to see who is connected
06:24 Nore does someone know why I get "cannot send to channel: minetest-dev"?
06:30 jordan4ibanez Kaeza's survival mod goes perfectly with the ambience mod!
06:31 Nore do you know why I can say nothing on minetest-dev?
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06:48 jordan4ibanez I just realized, in combining all of these mods together, they actually work really well together. :O
06:48 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: my server pushes the current limits of the engine already :)
06:49 VanessaE 53 mods installed, somewhere just north of 4000 defined nodes, and it only uses around 150MB .
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06:50 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify
06:50 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 06:51:20)
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Actually fix shader3 alpha this time d7395cd2ab 2013-04-27T20:04:52-07:00 http://git.io/nlyclA
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Enhance caves for mgv7, add ravines 8767c78169 2013-04-27T19:40:52-07:00 http://git.io/tDN0fQ
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Minor hud.cpp cleanup 0fb9567f13 2013-04-25T17:56:12-07:00 http://git.io/YcZ7eA
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Ability to change the crosshair using textures 43a388ec53 2013-04-25T17:07:46-07:00 http://git.io/rxhtfA
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Generalize hud_builtin_enable into hud_set_flags d3f0ce6224 2013-04-25T16:37:36-07:00 http://git.io/vQt-pQ
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Tune finite liquids, indev huge caves d83602d98e 2013-04-25T11:59:32-07:00 http://git.io/SHmmKQ
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist on -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 (use path_user instead of path_share) c33b993397 2013-04-25T10:49:28-07:00 http://git.io/wDl0Cg
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Move player collisionbox to player class 88ffb3f73b 2013-04-25T09:53:50-07:00 http://git.io/CJKqOw
06:50 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: kahrl is back 386108f982 2013-04-25T09:32:49-07:00 http://git.io/4Ae2LQ
06:50 MinetestBot was kicked by ShadowBot: message flood detected
06:50 VanessaE whoa whoa whoa
06:50 * ShadowBot wakes up
06:50 VanessaE HAHAHA!
06:50 sfan5 wtf?!
06:50 sfan5 i just set the message timeout to 240
06:51 VanessaE [04-28 02:50] * MinetestBot has quit (Excess Flood)
06:51 VanessaE bahahaha
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06:54 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
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06:57 * VanessaE pokes kaeza
06:58 kaeza hey!
06:58 VanessaE hey :)
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06:59 * sfan5 waits for being poked..
07:00 * VanessaE doesn't poke sfan5.
07:00 sfan5 :(
07:00 * kaeza pokes sfan5 in the most gay way possible
07:01 kaeza :D
07:01 sfan5 D:
07:01 VanessaE lol
07:06 jordan4ibanez Goodnight.
07:07 kaeza night jordan
07:07 kaeza I'm gonna do an Internet Explorer mod
07:08 kaeza I'll fill up the entire screen with search bars for every site on the internet
07:10 kaeza this is the base code: http://pastebin.com/0AxTtzuj
07:10 kaeza I think it's pretty accurate to how IE works
07:10 VanessaE haha
07:12 kaeza I'm still sleepy, I can't think clearly :P
07:13 kaeza Any news?
07:13 kaeza today has been a slow news day...
07:13 RealBadAngel its sunday
07:13 RealBadAngel thats most recent news ;)
07:13 kaeza hehe
07:13 VanessaE kaeza: I pushed alpha support to homedecor, ENabled by default now.  HDX doors improved again.
07:14 kaeza well... that explains a lot
07:14 RealBadAngel and ive added hv wireing and hv batboxes
07:14 kaeza that's cool RealBadAngel!
07:14 kaeza jow many HV machines are there?
07:14 kaeza how*
07:15 RealBadAngel now im goin to add now all machines by tiers
07:15 RealBadAngel ie all kinds of grinders, alloy furnaces etc
07:15 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit smoking cigarettes
07:15 * ShadowBot wakes up
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07:16 sfan5 !voice kaeza
07:16 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'ch' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 15, in voice)
07:16 sfan5 :/
07:16 kaeza derp
07:16 RealBadAngel kaeza, theres no single one yet, i needed hv batboxes and wireing to be able to add them
07:16 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
07:16 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 07:16:42)
07:16 kaeza ah ok
07:17 sfan5 !voice kaeza VanessaE
07:17 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'inpu' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 15, in voice)
07:17 kaeza I haven't updated technic in a while, that's why I ask
07:17 RealBadAngel and thought it will be easier to add all tiers of one machine at once, than addin all mv, then all hv
07:17 kaeza the copy I have still has only a few MV machines
07:17 sfan5 !voice kaeza VanessaE
07:17 sfan5 \o/
07:17 sfan5 !devoice kaeza
07:18 kaeza :[
07:18 RealBadAngel now im workin on mv and hv grinders, got textures already made
07:18 kaeza :] *
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07:53 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
07:53 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 07:45:12)
07:54 sfan5 !ban sfan5
07:54 sfan5 !unban sfan5
07:54 sfan5 !ban sfan5@*.ru
07:54 sfan5 !unban sfan5@*.ru
07:54 sfan5 !ban ~ident!sfan5
07:54 sfan5 !unban ~ident!sfan5
07:54 sfan5 k, everything works fine
07:55 kaeza !ban *Bot*!*@*
07:55 kaeza :D
07:56 VanessaE I think it's safe to say that it works, sfan5  :)
07:56 sfan5 kaeza: you'd need to use !ban Bot*
07:57 kaeza some guy in #lua brought a bot to execute Lua code from IRC the other day
07:57 kaeza he forgot to sandbox the thing lol
07:57 sfan5 !ban ~ident!someperson456@somedomain.*
07:57 sfan5 !unban ~ident!someperson456@somedomain.*
07:57 sfan5 kaeza: haha
07:57 kaeza I ended up os.remove'ing the bot script :|
07:58 VanessaE you hacker, you
07:58 VanessaE ;)
07:58 kaeza luckily the guy was smart enough to have a backup
07:58 kaeza I guess he learned an important lesson ;)
07:59 * sfan5 has learned an important lesson when he accidently "rm *" in his home folder
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07:59 kaeza >:O
08:00 kaeza and Jordach learned what sudo rm -fr /* means :|
08:00 sfan5 on debian you need --no-preserve-root to make it work
08:01 * kaeza is not going to try that
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08:08 Calinou hi
08:08 * Calinou backstabs ShadowBot and saps their dispenser
08:08 VanessaE hey
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08:11 kaeza why doesn't ShadowBot give OP to MinetestBot before going to sleep?
08:12 Calinou /kick ShadowBot
08:12 sfan5 MinetestBot didn't need op before
08:12 sfan5 Calinou: you mean !kick ShadowBot
08:16 Calinou :p
08:16 VanessaE is there a way to adjust how fast the view range autotuner makes its adjustments?
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08:23 Calinou no
08:23 Calinou just disable it :P
08:23 Calinou set min and max range to the same value
08:24 tripod Calinou:
08:24 VanessaE I usualyl do.
08:24 VanessaE just wanted to get a better frame rate where it's possible, without waiting 5 minutes for the autotuner to get there :)
08:25 VanessaE too bad farmesh is busted, I'd be using that too :)
08:29 Calinou I use view range 128 (equivalent to minecraft's "far")
08:29 VanessaE I lock mine at 70.
08:30 VanessaE (256px)
08:31 FreeFull sfan5: I think with the * lack of --no-preserve-root won't save you
08:35 kaeza oh g*d... I hate C++
08:35 kaeza I'd prolly make what I'm making in 5 mins if I were to code it using stdio
08:36 kaeza C++ streams *
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08:40 iqualfragile kaeza: that would be a hardpoke
08:40 kaeza huh?
08:41 iqualfragile yeah, the problem with the viewrange adjuster is that it wont let the graka adjust its frequency
08:41 iqualfragile the gayest way possible
08:42 VanessaE graka?
08:42 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5771 <= we need an explanation on how to use remote_media
08:42 Calinou it's obscure as hell
08:43 iqualfragile gaphics card
08:45 iqualfragile Calinou: its not obscure at all, you just need to have a webserver running and lets say it is reachable at http://yourdomain:666/ and default_dirt.png would be in http://yourdomain:666/minetest/default_dirt.png
08:46 iqualfragile then you would just set remote_media to http://yourdomain:666/minetest/
08:46 FreeFull 15MB of mods
08:47 kaeza lol
08:47 kaeza ambience is bigger than that
08:47 sfan5 !up yourdomain
08:47 MinetestBot sfan5: Invalid Address
08:47 iqualfragile sfan5: -.-
08:48 sfan5 :D
08:48 iqualfragile 15 mb of mods is not that much, realy
08:48 kaeza just homedecor is about 3MB
08:48 iqualfragile i have 220
08:48 iqualfragile mb
08:49 kaeza dafuq
08:49 kaeza what do you have in there?
08:49 iqualfragile but that includes the git history
08:49 iqualfragile so its no fair comparison
08:49 iqualfragile i should just measure the size of the textures
08:50 iqualfragile just 19 mb
08:50 iqualfragile but that excludes the ambience sounds…
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09:12 iqualfragile ok, 27 mb
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09:23 MinetestBot GIT: VanessaE commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #98 from RealBadAngel/patch-3 ac9a05df0b 2013-04-28T02:21:05-07:00 http://git.io/lEY85Q
09:23 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Update init.lua cc20b9ba47 2013-04-28T02:18:52-07:00 http://git.io/bAT3Sg
09:23 VanessaE that took a while to go through
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09:27 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86915#p86915 dat temp
09:27 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86896#p86896 oops, that's the real link
09:28 VanessaE nice image.
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09:31 sfan5 VanessaE: it checks every 4 mins
09:31 VanessaE ah
09:31 sfan5 i'm going to change that right now
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09:34 Calinou the ShadowBot is an ultrabook
09:36 markveidemanis 86.172.131.196
09:36 markveidemanis Armor testing
09:36 markveidemanis And firearms
09:40 kaeza markveidemanis, updated teh gunz?
09:41 markveidemanis nope, not yet
09:41 kaeza :(
09:41 kaeza laaaag
09:44 kaeza somebody should fix that ugly bug where the chat text blocks other UI items
09:44 VanessaE yes
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09:46 kaeza I wonder if it can be implemented with drawText() instead of a Label widget...
09:46 kaeza hello webdesigner97
09:46 kaeza !up 86.172.131.196
09:46 MinetestBot 86.172.131.196:30000 seems to be down
09:46 kaeza Y? Y???
09:47 kaeza markveidemanis, update firearms and remove the explosives. those are laggy as hell
09:47 markveidemanis destructive?
09:48 kaeza yep
09:48 markveidemanis can you make it take the armor into account?
09:48 markveidemanis Like a real FPS game
09:48 markveidemanis Add kevlar!!!!
09:48 kaeza later perhaps
09:49 kaeza I was going to add bulletproof vest also
09:49 markveidemanis thats literally it
09:49 markveidemanis :D
09:49 kaeza yep :3
09:49 markveidemanis It hurts but it doesnt kill you
09:49 markveidemanis just like real kevlar
09:49 markveidemanis Stops the bullet but you still get the impact
09:49 markveidemanis Maybe a backwards push?
09:50 kaeza yep
09:50 kaeza the shotgun was going to do that
09:50 kaeza also the explosives
09:50 kaeza rocketjump :3
09:51 Calinou rocketjump is going to be hard to code
09:51 Calinou knockback is very hard to do in minetest
09:52 FreeFull It'd be easier if the rockets impacted whatever you target instantly
09:52 kaeza a player:set_velocity() would come in handy here
09:52 VanessaE make an invisible entity, attach, set velocity, ???, profit.
09:53 kaeza VanessaE, :D
09:53 john_minetest a minetest fps modset would be epic.
09:53 john_minetest epic battles in a near endless world
09:53 FreeFull The problem is that minetest mods tend to not be fast enough I think
09:53 kaeza john_minetest, that's what I'm turning firearms into
09:54 john_minetest like ace of spades, just free ^^
09:55 kaeza (a player:set_fov() method would also be good)
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10:08 markveidemanis lightweight screen sharer?
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10:15 iqualfragile markveidemanis: gitso
10:15 iqualfragile https://code.google.com/p/gitso/
10:20 john_minetest kaeza: maybe a method to change the crosshair too a picture of a gun in aim when clicking right could come in handy.
10:20 john_minetest *to a picture
10:22 kaeza john_minetest, there's no callback when right-clicking with a tool... or is there one?
10:22 kaeza the one I know of is on_place, but that requires the to point the tool at something
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10:22 arsdragonfly john_minetest :yup it'll be better if the view zooms in
10:22 kaeza -the
10:23 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:23 kaeza hello PilzAdam
10:23 arsdragonfly PilzAdam :hi
10:24 everyone hi PilzAdam
10:24 john_minetest hi PilzAdam
10:25 kaeza lol everyone is registered :D
10:26 arsdragonfly :( Something is wrong with my server
10:27 arsdragonfly I can't announce it to the main server
10:27 arsdragonfly what could be wrong?
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10:31 Calinou arsdragonfly: show me your minetest.conf
10:31 Calinou :P
10:32 arsdragonfly Calinou :sorry but I'm not at home now I just happened to recall this issue
10:32 arsdragonfly but I set server_announce to 1
10:32 arsdragonfly isn't that enough ?
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10:34 thexyz arsdragonfly: did you build with curl?
10:35 arsdragonfly thexyz :I added -DENABLE_CURL=1 when running cmake and I can see the main server list in game
10:35 iqualfragile (10:45:24) iqualfragile: Calinou: its not obscure at all, you just need to have a webserver running and lets say it is reachable at http://yourdomain:666/ and default_dirt.png would be in http://yourdomain:666/minetest/default_dirt.png
10:35 iqualfragile (10:46:29) iqualfragile: then you would just set remote_media to http://yourdomain:666/minetest/
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10:39 Calinou iqualfragile: just textures?
10:39 Calinou media I mean
10:39 Calinou and don't you sort stuff by mod?
10:39 thexyz what else?
10:39 thexyz no, you don't
10:39 Calinou ah, ok
10:40 thexyz remote_media is a very human-understandable setting
10:40 Calinou arsdragonfly: set server_address (optional domain, if empty, IP is shown), server_desc (description), server_name (server name), server_url (optional server website)
10:40 thexyz it can be explained in no words
10:40 thexyz still
10:40 thexyz # Specifies URL from which client fetches media instead of using UDP
10:40 thexyz # $filename should be accessible from $remote_media$filename via cURL
10:40 thexyz # (obviously, remote_media should end with a slash)
10:40 thexyz # Files that are not present would be fetched the usual way
10:40 thexyz what's not clear here?
10:41 arsdragonfly Calinou :Thanks i'll try it out
10:41 Calinou thexyz: ah ok
10:41 markveidemanis I want to run a minetest server on my tablet
10:41 markveidemanis Help me
10:41 Jordach2 markveidemanis, YOU CANT.
10:42 Calinou lol
10:42 markveidemanis EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE
10:42 Calinou it isn't
10:42 arsdragonfly Calinou :how to make minetestserver print more detailed logs btw?(like the flag --verbose)
10:42 markveidemanis IT IS
10:42 Calinou noone successfully compiled minetest on android
10:42 Calinou just get a PC
10:42 Calinou arsdragonfly: debug_log_level
10:42 Calinou default is 2
10:42 markveidemanis i want my tablet to make the proccesses then
10:42 Calinou set to 1 for warnings/errors only, 3 is more verbose, 0 logs nothing
10:42 Calinou also see minetestserver --help
10:42 markveidemanis to assist the comp
10:43 Calinou markveidemanis: huh?
10:43 arsdragonfly Calinou : :D Thx
10:43 markveidemanis add the tablets proccesing power to the computer
10:43 Calinou that's for debug.txt arsdragonfly
10:43 Calinou markveidemanis: you don't
10:43 Calinou also, ARM sucks at heavy computing
10:44 sfan5 ARM is power efficent
10:44 * arsdragonfly wants to buy a RaspberryPi and run an Apache server and a minetest server on it
10:44 sfan5 minetest server performance is poot on raspi
10:44 sfan5 Jeija has some expirence with it+
10:44 sfan5 -+
10:44 Calinou if ARM was on same performance as x86 it would be less power efficient
10:44 Calinou raspi is very slow ARM
10:44 Calinou old 32 bit ARM version, 700mhz monocore
10:44 sfan5 what about AArch64?
10:44 Calinou has nothing to do with eg. tegra 3
10:45 Calinou it's not 64 bit
10:45 iqualfragile Calinou: i think you can put sounds there, too but im not shure about it
10:45 sfan5 arsdragonfly: i have the announce problem too
10:46 Calinou iqualfragile: yes, any media should work
10:46 Calinou sfan5: works for me
10:46 markveidemanis Lets make this simpler...
10:46 markveidemanis Who has a server
10:46 * sfan5
10:46 arsdragonfly sfan5 :have you checked out the verbose log?
10:46 markveidemanis Can you host one for a day?
10:46 markveidemanis I will give you the game&&edited common
10:47 john_minetest could minetest run on a hackberry A10?
10:47 sfan5 arsdragonfly: no, but i fixed it this way http://pastie.org/7732620
10:47 sfan5 !g hackberry
10:47 MinetestBot sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackberry
10:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: maybe..
10:48 john_minetest Wikipedia article doesn't exist. https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board
10:49 markveidemanis good chance to test irc and commands
10:49 markveidemanis im not compiling that again lol
10:49 markveidemanis Can you add them?
10:50 sfan5 john_minetest: should be possible, performance  shoudn't be too bad
10:54 celeron55 a singlecore mobile intel x86 is roughly equal to dualcore ARM: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/4
10:54 celeron55 8)
10:54 markveidemanis Can i forward the server console to my tablet?
10:55 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86980#p86980
10:55 kaeza what is the point in quoting and not saying anything?
10:57 kaeza If you wanna bump, just ask if the thing is still being worked on
10:58 Jordach2 markveidemanis, use SSH
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11:19 MinetestBot GIT: VanessaE commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #100 from RealBadAngel/master 6f83f4cf1e 2013-04-28T04:18:37-07:00 http://git.io/oN_YIw
11:19 MinetestBot GIT: RealBadAngel commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix all crafting recipes to use modern style 255e363b04 2013-04-28T03:40:08-07:00 http://git.io/_n894A
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11:27 VanessaE sfan5: is it really necessary for the bot to annouce both of those?
11:27 VanessaE maybe the "pull request" one should be exclude din the future
11:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, is it really necessary to merge with a merge commit?
11:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's easier for me to just click a button on the github web interface than muck about with the command line.
11:28 VanessaE also, good morning.
11:28 VanessaE as an aside, can you get rid of the inventorycube() calls that are used on default glass?
11:29 VanessaE oh wait, that's already been dealt with hasn't it.
11:30 VanessaE nevermind :)
11:36 VanessaE Calinou: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1733537/435625/daace1da-aff0-11e2-960c-c6bf13120512.png
11:37 Jordach2 they sorted the alpha z fighting
11:37 Jordach2 \O/
11:37 VanessaE not entirely
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11:37 VanessaE it is still glitchy, especially with clouds, if you have no shaders
11:39 sfan5 VanessaE: PilzAdam told me the bot should print all commits not just the latest, i did that
11:43 VanessaE *shrug* ok
11:45 VanessaE Jordach: transparency sorting works fine if you look at a stack from the X-, X+, Z+, or Y+ side, but from the Z- and Y- sides, only the alpha closest to you is used (everything behind is still visible of course, just no layering)
11:47 VanessaE well that's not entirely accurate, seems to depend on other factors too
11:50 kaeza sfan5, Y U USE UNITY?? :(
11:51 kaeza kill it with fire! and install xfce ;)
11:52 sfan5 !server name:mark
11:52 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
11:52 Calinou kaeza: didn't you use unity?
11:53 Calinou also, unity is getting much better at game performance... if you play in fullscreen.
11:53 sfan5 i first thought "kill it with fire" too, but i didn't have my light.. over the time i learned to live with it
11:53 sfan5 *lighter
11:56 iqualfragile i think that the ability to search menues is realy cool about unity
11:57 iqualfragile and i hope that that feature will arive in other desktops soon
11:57 sfan5 !server name:markveidemanis
11:57 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
11:57 sfan5 !help
11:57 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
11:58 sfan5 !server players:-1
11:58 MinetestBot sfan5: markveidemanis Survival Server | 79.235.5.178 | Clients: 0/1 | Version: 0.4.6 game | ping: 0.120
11:58 sfan5 ah, found it
11:58 kaeza Calinou, I ditched Unity long ago
11:59 kaeza It may be possible that it got better for gaming
11:59 kaeza still don't like the Unity interface though
12:01 * Calinou found a DVI cable :D
12:01 Calinou brb
12:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload server
12:03 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 12:04:00)
12:03 sfan5 !server players:-1
12:03 MinetestBot sfan5: markveidemanis Survival Server | 79.235.5.178:30001 | Clients: 0/10 | Version: 0.4.6 game | ping: 0.129
12:04 john_minetest the first thing I do when I have to use unity (for example in school) is launching the terminal.
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12:10 Jordach john_minetest, sudo apt-get install xfce4
12:10 sfan5 does that work?
12:14 Jordach it might
12:14 * Jordach doesnt know their systems, so
12:15 iqualfragile john_minetest: in school? realy? you use linux in school?
12:15 kaeza Jordach, not so easy IIRC
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12:16 kaeza you gota install other load of crap along with it
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12:17 kaeza john_minetest, Linux on school? :O
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12:19 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/8yssTah.jpg http://i.imgur.com/u3Gh448.png http://i.imgur.com/h62Sq4Q.jpg
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12:20 kaeza RealBadAngel, :D
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12:22 markveidemanis RBA stop now and give link!
12:22 markveidemanis I need this!!!
12:23 sfan5 ironic: "ACTION[ServerThread]: 404 times out."
12:23 john_minetest kaeza, iqualfragile: yes, we have got a dualboot and we are using linux in exams (e.g. computer algebra system in maths) because windows is crashing, they say. The fact is, that the CAS, Maple, runs on java and has got a shitty implementation on linux so it crashes more often there than on windows and has got less features...
12:24 kaeza sfan5, ironic would be 408
12:24 sfan5 RealBadAngel: looks awesome
12:24 sfan5 kaeza: still ironic
12:25 kaeza :P
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12:26 kaeza PilzAdam, related to yesterday's discussion: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=86989#p86989
12:26 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_1352352977.png
12:26 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^
12:26 Calinou yay, my fonts look worse now
12:26 Calinou I feel like I'm using debian squeeze
12:26 Calinou except wifi works
12:27 VanessaE I gave the same effect to doyousketch2's stained glass
12:27 kaeza VanessaE, that looks awesome!
12:28 VanessaE Calinou: fonts are worse?
12:28 VanessaE what'd you break? :P
12:29 Calinou switched from VGA to DVI
12:29 VanessaE ah
12:30 Calinou my fonts are set to be smoothed, I removed RGB smoothing and used "normal" smoothing instead, but it only works in xfce settings, nowhere else
12:30 Calinou even after a reboot
12:30 VanessaE Calinou: so, I trust you're just about to add alpha to various moreblocks glasses? :)
12:30 VanessaE (except for the default glass ones)
12:30 Calinou maybe, but the sorting bug is still present
12:30 VanessaE meh, it's playable and looks 10000x better than before :)
12:35 VanessaE keep it subtle though, I don't wanna lose the uniqueness of homedecor glow lights ;)
12:45 VanessaE ok, time to get some rest.  night all.
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12:49 sapier [ANNOUNCEMENT] Animals modpack 2.1 has been released. Minetest target version is 0.4.6. 2.1 is a STABLE release.
12:52 sfan5 \o/
12:53 sapier thx I'm waiting for crash reports now ;-) ... as always right after a stable release
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13:09 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/D6oy2cM.jpg
13:10 RealBadAngel i got RGB ready
13:11 RealBadAngel btw, glass textures are 16px if somebody asks
13:13 markveidemanis POST LINK
13:13 markveidemanis I really like this!!!
13:13 markveidemanis stop teasing with screenshots now !
13:13 markveidemanis :D
13:13 RealBadAngel i can upload work version
13:13 RealBadAngel hold on
13:13 markveidemanis ok
13:14 markveidemanis is it a nodebox?
13:14 markveidemanis Il have fun loading 60 MB of mods now...
13:15 markveidemanis animals...
13:15 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/framedglass.zip
13:15 RealBadAngel its modified framedglass that comes with technic
13:16 sfan5 markveidemanis: i installed framedglass on your server
13:16 markveidemanis YAY
13:16 markveidemanis im getting it too
13:17 sapier animals is 8.5 only if you download the release zip containing only required content
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13:18 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5778
13:18 kaeza let the community decide
13:19 sfan5 kaeza: i voted
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13:20 kaeza sfan5, thanks
13:20 PilzAdam kaeza, note that the poll wont be considered
13:20 kaeza I know
13:20 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/User:Rarkenin/Proposal_System
13:20 kaeza but at least the community will express the feelings in this topic
13:25 kaeza PilzAdam, so you won't consider a poll, or even the discussion we had, but will do so for a proposal?
13:26 PilzAdam of course I will look at the poll
13:26 PilzAdam but I wont change my mind because of it
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13:32 kaeza PilzAdam, I'm not asking you to change your mind about whether or not it "ruins" survival, but you should really consider what the community thinks.
13:33 PilzAdam a forum poll doesnt really represent the thoughts of the community
13:33 PilzAdam a discussion in IRC or a proposal like rarekin proposed is much better
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13:35 kaeza whatever, I'm not turning this shit into a huge discussion like the stupid one about lava change. if there are enough votes, maybe a proposal will be made
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13:36 sfan5 thats how you do it right
13:36 PilzAdam also, we have a proposal about minetest_game being the "throw everything in" game
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13:37 BlockMen hi everyone
13:38 BlockMen can someone help me with node meta? i have problems to save a table: http://pastie.org/private/5vxdyjrth8bpihedpdbhja
13:39 PilzAdam whats the crash message?
13:39 BlockMen no message...
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13:40 PilzAdam it just silently crashes?
13:41 kaeza BlockMen, maybe it has problems with numerical indices?
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13:42 BlockMen PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/nC6Ni4F.png
13:43 BlockMen kaeza, so using id["whatever"]= instead of id[0]= ?
13:43 PilzAdam whats the strucutre of the table? can you post the output of print(dump(id)) just before the from_table call?
13:43 BlockMen pilzadam, will try, one sec
13:43 kaeza BlockMen, maybe, yes
13:44 kaeza (if it's possible for your particular case)
13:45 BlockMen PilzAdam, yep i can: "{1 = 2, 2 = 3, 3 = 4, 0 = 1}"
13:45 PilzAdam the table should have a structure like this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L770
13:46 BlockMen PilzAdam, ok will change.
13:46 BlockMen but minetest shouldnt just crash then...
13:49 markveidemanis I need help with blender
13:50 markveidemanis I need to use model animations but with wieldview
13:50 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vaTh6MQ/MT.zip
13:50 markveidemanis both files there
13:51 sapier and what exactly is your problem?
13:52 markveidemanis I want my edited animations with wieldview
13:52 sapier I did ask what your problem is not what you want ;-P
13:52 markveidemanis I cant make...""
13:53 sapier I suggest looking at youtube for an animation tutorial it's not something to explain in two sentences
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13:56 markveidemanis can you do it plz
13:56 markveidemanis Im no good at 3d stuff
13:57 sapier I'm not good either in fact I really hated creating mobf models ;-)
14:00 markveidemanis its not mobf...
14:01 sapier ohhh I see non mobf models are fun to create ;-)
14:03 markveidemanis its merging the animations of 1 to the contentof another
14:05 sapier which isn't something I have any idea how to do. Animation is (as far as I know) basic part of a model, I don't see any way to strip it from one and attach it to another.
14:05 BlockMen PilzAdam, still crashing. thats my table now "{fields = {[1] = 1, [2] = 3, [0] = 1, [3] = 4}}"
14:06 kaeza BlockMen, did you include the `inventory' field?
14:06 kaeza as in {fields={...},inventory={}}
14:06 BlockMen kaeza, it neeeds both tables?
14:07 kaeza BlockMen, not sure, but doesn't hurt to try
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14:07 BlockMen so adding a senseless table with trash...why not :D
14:07 Calinou hi
14:08 kaeza BlockMen, IMHO, the inventory shouldn't be needed. If it works after adding a proper inventory table, you should file an issue on github
14:08 kaeza hey Calinou
14:09 BlockMen WTF....it works now.
14:09 BlockMen thats kaeza
14:09 Calinou well, fonts with DVI aren't that bad, I kept the settings I had before
14:09 BlockMen *thx and PilzAdam
14:09 Calinou however, my BIOS logo and command line stuff now appear smaller and centered :O
14:09 kaeza BlockMen, now, that should be considered a bug
14:10 kaeza some nodes don't need an inventory at all
14:10 BlockMen yep
14:10 BlockMen thats the working code:
14:10 BlockMen local tbl = {
14:10 BlockMen inventory = {},
14:10 BlockMen fields = id
14:10 BlockMen }
14:10 RealBadAngel ok, how do you like it now? http://i.imgur.com/7Kxbkhx.png
14:11 BlockMen just that fuking inventory = {}, needed ----grrr
14:11 kaeza file a bug report on github and somebody will find the time to fix that
14:12 BlockMen will do later
14:14 jin_xi RealBadAngel: looks nice
14:15 Calinou cool
14:15 kaeza RealBadAngel, awesome!
14:16 Calinou now we can beat minecraft
14:16 Calinou also it'd be nice if ice was slightly transparent
14:16 Calinou the newly added ice
14:17 BlockMen RealBadAngel, looks good. But will it be possible to use old drawing if wanted?
14:18 Calinou why would you want to do that?
14:18 Calinou just use mods
14:19 RealBadAngel this is without shaders and glasslike_framed
14:19 PilzAdam Calinou, the transparent ice is not possible because its too glitchy above water
14:19 Calinou with shaders, transparency glitches quite a lot
14:19 RealBadAngel thats latest hmmm fixes that do glitch
14:20 BlockMen currently the drawtype is glasslike. so maybe the new could be "fancyglass" that you can set it back.
14:20 BlockMen Calinou, why? because i like to see just one frame ;P
14:20 RealBadAngel glasslike_framed can be used for many purposes
14:20 RealBadAngel like coloured glass, fluid tanks
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14:21 BlockMen RealBadAnglel so "glasslike" will be kept?
14:21 Nore hello
14:22 sfan5 !server players:-1
14:22 MinetestBot sfan5: sfan5's Spleefing Server | 79.235.5.178:30000 | Clients: 0/25 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.119
14:22 sfan5 wut?
14:23 sfan5 !server players:-1
14:23 MinetestBot sfan5: markveidemanis Survival Server | 79.235.5.178:30001 | Clients: 0/10 | Version: 0.4.6 game | ping: 0.115
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14:24 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/a7KkZ2J.png coloured glass at night :)
14:24 Nore RealBadAngel, do you think force load will ever be merged? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606
14:25 RealBadAngel BlockMen, this is separate drawtype
14:25 RealBadAngel Nore, it is needed and will be merged at some point
14:25 Nore but when? it is already 3 months old
14:25 BlockMen RealBadAngel, thats nice. Having both types is best :)
14:26 RealBadAngel the drawtype is there for a few days already
14:27 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/framed_glass.zip
14:27 RealBadAngel thats current version of it
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14:33 arsdragonfly sfan5 : http://pastie.org/7732620 the brackets look strange
14:33 sfan5 which brackets?
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14:34 arsdragonfly aren't there any missing ones?
14:34 sfan5 arsdragonfly: theres something mussing
14:34 sfan5 *missing
14:34 sfan5 arsdragonfly: http://pastie.org/7733449
14:35 * Calinou got cancer
14:36 * kaeza got taurus
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14:36 sfan5 arsdragonfly: note: you need to have curl installed and accessible from command line with "curl"
14:36 * Calinou puts kaeza in a torus
14:37 * sfan5 opens blender and stares at the cube
14:37 Nore does someone know why I can't speak on minetest-dev
14:37 Nore ?
14:37 kaeza Nore, #minetest-dev *
14:37 kaeza (note the '#')
14:37 Calinou maybe you need a nickserv account?
14:38 arsdragonfly sfan5 :thanks,I'll try that out tomorrow:(
14:38 Nore Perhaps
14:38 sfan5 Nore: i think webchat is muted on -dev
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14:38 ShadowNinja Webchat is quieted
14:38 kaeza hey Shadow
14:39 ShadowNinja Hello kaeza!
14:39 sfan5 !server name:Wazu
14:39 MinetestBot sfan5: WazuClan.com | wazuclan.com:30000 | Clients: 12/32 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.217
14:39 arsdragonfly sfan5 : That one still looks incomplete:(
14:40 ShadowNinja Nore: Are you using Linux?
14:40 kaeza !server name:kaeza
14:40 MinetestBot kaeza: No results
14:40 kaeza huh
14:40 sfan5 arsdragonfly: it is complete
14:40 Nore yes, I use Debian Wheezy
14:40 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org
14:40 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
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14:40 kaeza cr*p
14:40 sfan5 kaeza: it search server.minetest.net not .ru
14:40 sfan5 *searchs
14:41 kaeza sfan5, server is down
14:41 ShadowNinja OK, then use irssi, xchat or hexchat.
14:41 Nore thanks!
14:41 * sfan5 prefers XChat
14:41 ShadowNinja s/xchat/xchat,/
14:41 ShadowBot What ShadowNinja meant to say was: OK, then use irssi, xchat, or hexchat.
14:41 arsdragonfly sfan5 :line 5 doesn't go after "ga"
14:41 * kaeza prefers HexChat
14:41 kaeza less hassle adding SASL support (it's built-in)
14:42 sfan5 arsdragonfly: thats how diff works
14:42 * ShadowNinja Prefers irssi, uses a bouncer currently
14:42 * sfan5 also has a bouncer
14:42 ShadowNinja sfan5: ZNC?
14:42 sfan5 yes
14:43 sfan5 if you whois me you'll see that:  * [sfan5] is connecting from *@minetest.ru
14:43 ShadowNinja Do you know how to configure a custom away nick? I am not sure about the syntax.
14:44 sfan5 i could configure my bouncer with a fancy webinterface
14:44 kaeza ShadowNinja, http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/angry-you-win-this-time!.png
14:45 sfan5 ShadowNinja: the​xyz may be able to help you
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14:45 Mati^1 hi
14:45 sfan5 hi
14:46 * ShadowNinja has too many HTRP servers running, up to port 8082 now
14:46 MinetestBot I'm a bot.
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14:46 sfan5 nore: i see you chose xchat, welcome
14:46 ShadowNinja MinetestBot: Um duh?
14:46 john_minetest I am a stegosaurus.
14:46 nore thanks
14:46 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: any problems?
14:47 sfan5 i can't ctcp myself, weird..
14:47 ShadowNinja MinetestBot: prove sfan5 isn't sending those manualy you ;-)
14:48 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: how?
14:48 ShadowNinja s/ you//
14:48 ShadowBot What ShadowNinja meant to say was: MinetestBot: prove sfan5 isn't sending those manualy ;-)
14:48 ShadowNinja MinetestBot: If you're so clever you can figure it out
14:49 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: ...
14:49 ShadowNinja lol
14:49 MinetestBot No result.
14:51 ShadowNinja Grrr, I can't do that without re-enabling ShadowBot in here, and we want to avoid conflicts
14:52 ShadowNinja Well maybe ,,(echo test)
14:52 ShadowBot test
14:52 ShadowNinja But I don't think I can set the channel on that
14:56 sfan5 ,,(echo hello world!)
14:57 sfan5 :/
14:57 ShadowNinja Only admins can use ShadowBot here
14:58 sfan5 you said i have control of ShadowBot, doesn't that mean i'm an admin
14:58 ShadowNinja Dismiss MinetestBot or join a channel like ##minetest-0gb.us
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15:00 ShadowNinja !config networks.freenode.channels
15:00 ShadowNinja Hmmm, sent only in a PM
15:01 ShadowNinja <ShadowBot> ##jesseh ##minetest-0gb.us ##mt-irc-mod #minetest
15:02 BlockMen how do i get all nodes with name="whatever" without using an abm??
15:03 ShadowNinja for key, node in pairs(minetest.registered_nodes) do?
15:05 Calinou ShadowNinja: HTRP?
15:05 kaeza BlockMen, this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1246
15:07 BlockMen ShadowNinja, can i get the pos of them with using that?
15:07 ShadowNinja Oh, no, why do you want that?
15:07 BlockMen because i need the pos for set meta
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15:08 BlockMen kaeza, could work. is there a max for radius?
15:08 ShadowNinja For what? can you use on_consttuct?
15:08 BlockMen ShadowNinja, unfortunetly not
15:08 jojoa1997 hi
15:09 ShadowNinja Mapgen?
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15:09 kaeza "hi" -> left
15:09 sfan5 YAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAYAYYYAYAYAY!!!1!111! it works!!!!
15:09 kaeza who understands this guy?
15:09 BlockMen no, it needs to be done when world gets loaded, not when created
15:09 ShadowNinja lol
15:09 kaeza BlockMen, it would help if we knew what you are doing
15:10 kaeza trying to do *
15:10 ShadowNinja sfan5: What worked?
15:10 BlockMen kaeza, because particle spawner disappear when u leave the game they need to be set again when world is loaded
15:11 sfan5 ShadowNinja: the whole purpose of worldedit++ is just one thing, and i added that to worldedit
15:11 kaeza hmm
15:11 sfan5 +thing
15:11 ShadowNinja But what about multiplayer?
15:11 ShadowNinja OK, good.
15:12 kaeza Likwid replied to my topic
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15:12 BlockMen ShadowNinja, i thought they are shown in general, except you set a player when spawing them
15:12 kaeza should've guessed what the message would be
15:12 BlockMen https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1145
15:13 kaeza BlockMen, adding weather?
15:13 ShadowNinja Hmmm, are existing particlespawnets sent to new clients?
15:13 BlockMen nope
15:13 BlockMen *shaowninja, i hope so
15:14 BlockMen if not i could use on_join and then set spawner to player
15:14 BlockMen that would also work
15:14 ShadowNinja Well I think they should be more advanced, they should also save.
15:14 BlockMen ok, i figuered out a workaround (i guess)
15:15 BlockMen thx anyway Shadowninja and kaeza
15:15 ShadowNinja sfan5: Why is MinetestBot oped? Can it do something with those ops?
15:15 kaeza BlockMen, np
15:15 sfan5 ShadowNinja: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/chop.py
15:15 ShadowNinja You're welcome.
15:16 ShadowNinja sfan5: ShadowBot has all that and more
15:16 ShadowNinja !list Channel
15:16 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, iban, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, listbans, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, (1 more message)
15:16 ShadowNinja !more
15:16 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: and voice
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15:17 sfan5 ShadowNinja: theres no halfop on freenode, chop.py is not done yet
15:17 ShadowNinja I know
15:17 Calinou who ever used halfop :P
15:19 sfan5 Calinou: the people at euIRCnet use it
15:22 Calinou there is almost no different with op
15:22 ShadowNinja sfan5: You need to be a bot admin to use them. Mine can grant access to only certain people, in only a certain channel, to only some commands.
15:24 ShadowNinja If you identify with it I can give you access. But it will only work when MinetestBot isn't around.
15:27 kahrl random minetest statistics of the day: http://i.imgur.com/6s6qguY.png
15:28 kahrl (the drop in april 2011 is when main() was split into main() and the_game())
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15:37 kahrl does anyone know how to tell gnuplot to show a sensible date format?
15:37 kahrl I hate this M/D/Y crap
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15:41 jojoa1997 hi
15:42 kahrl nvm found it
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15:51 ShadowNinja Um, biased? lol http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FreeNode
15:51 BlockMen can i get the view_range with minetest.setting_getbool()?
15:51 BlockMen or is it clientside?
15:51 PilzAdam its clientside
15:52 BlockMen hmm...
15:52 BlockMen what is the default?
15:52 ShadowNinja In singleplayer you can get client settings
15:52 ShadowNinja defaultsettings.cpp
15:52 BlockMen thx
15:52 kahrl improved graph: http://i.imgur.com/kUvJ28c.png
15:53 PilzAdam BlockMen, 35 to 160 based on loaded blocks / FPS
15:53 kaeza ShadowNinja, LOL
15:54 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, that fits how the community sees the core devs ;-)
15:54 ShadowNinja lol
15:54 kaeza yep
15:55 sfan5 when doing mass operation regexes are really useful
15:55 jojoa1997 hmmmm how is the realms coming?
15:56 hmmmm great
15:56 jojoa1997 ok good
15:56 jojoa1997 will we be seeing nether anytime soon
15:56 jojoa1997 ?
15:56 hmmmm yup
15:57 jojoa1997 time frame?
15:57 hmmmm whenever it gets done
15:57 jojoa1997 cause i really don't want to add nether mod to minitest
15:57 jojoa1997 ok
15:57 PilzAdam I already have the portals ready
15:57 * jojoa1997 waits another year
15:57 jojoa1997 WHAT!?
15:58 jojoa1997 is there anywhere i can get this?
15:58 jojoa1997 or is it not out yet
15:58 hmmmm i'm not really sure what this has to do with core development though
15:58 hmmmm seems like it should be a #minetest conversation
15:58 jojoa1997 we are in #minetest
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15:58 hmmmm oh
15:58 hmmmm shit
15:58 ShadowNinja lol
15:58 jojoa1997 :-)
15:59 jojoa1997 what is the prob
15:59 jojoa1997 ?
15:59 jojoa1997 pilzadam quartz will be added to minitest
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16:07 Jordach2 oh for fuck sakes
16:07 Jordach2 cant even login
16:09 Jordach2 thexyz, your bot detection is over sensitive
16:10 Jordach2 fyi, i use atuo login
16:11 ShadowNinja Jordach2: The issue is with detecting chrome I think, try annother beowser.
16:11 Jordach2 ShadowNinja, bullshit
16:11 ShadowNinja browser*
16:11 Jordach2 i used it in chrome on linux fine
16:12 kaeza Jordach2, seems to be a problem with User-Agent under Windows+Chrome
16:12 ShadowNinja Me too, but chrome mobile doesn't work
16:12 Jordach2 lies.
16:13 Jordach2 ShadowNinja, works on iPad
16:13 ShadowNinja +For android
16:15 kaeza Jordach2, see if this works http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/12/changing-user-agent-new-google-chrome.html
16:16 kaeza (the real solution would be that thexyz fixes the bot of course)
16:16 kaeza +detection
16:19 jojoa1997 i keep getiing this error http://pastebin.com/pszXBT8z
16:19 * jojoa1997 pasting code now
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16:21 [0gb_us] Three of Jordach. He's multiplying.
16:21 jojoa1997 here is the code http://pastebin.com/BxinsBWu
16:21 jojoa1997 someone please help
16:21 ShadowNinja Does it depend on default?
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16:21 jojoa1997 ah
16:22 jojoa1997 it has depends not depends.txt
16:22 ShadowNinja Well windows messes with filename extensions and hides them...
16:22 jojoa1997 yay it works now onto my other bugs
16:22 sapier only if you allow windows to hide them
16:23 ShadowNinja sapier: Yep, I always disable that, if I don't wipe the system and install Linux that is ;-)
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16:24 sapier me too hiding filename extentions is one of worst ideas microsoft ever had
16:24 kaeza ^
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16:24 jojoa1997 is this right?
16:24 kaeza hey rubenwardy
16:24 jojoa1997 potions.register_potion("Instant Health II", "pink", 1,
16:24 jojoa1997 function(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)
16:24 jojoa1997 local hp = user:get_hp
16:24 jojoa1997 local hp_raise = hp + 12
16:24 jojoa1997 user:set_hp(hp_raise)
16:24 jojoa1997 end,
16:24 kaeza jojoa1997, pastebin pls
16:24 Calinou hey, download holidays.jpg.eye, it's a pic about holidays
16:24 Calinou .exe*
16:25 rubenwardy hi all
16:25 [0gb_us] I don't have the file extension hiding because I'm not on WIndows, but I do disable the hiding of files that start with a dot or end with a tilde.
16:25 kahrl s/get_hp/get_hp()/
16:25 jojoa1997 http://pastebin.com/pChQR2ew
16:26 sapier wasn't there something like eat some time? I don't know what happens if you set something about max health
16:27 sapier s/about/above/
16:27 thexyz kaeza: Jordach: you are all bots, don't talk to me
16:28 kaeza lol
16:28 jojoa1997 is there a way to have something repeat a function say every 3 seconds
16:28 * [0gb_us] isn't surprised
16:28 jojoa1997 thexyz hi
16:28 kaeza jojoa1997, use a globalstep with a timer
16:28 [0gb_us] jojoa1997: Build a function, then use nested minetest.after().
16:29 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: ^ or minetest.after in a loop
16:29 kaeza (or call minetest.after() at the end of the callback)
16:29 [0gb_us] kaeza's idea might be better, I don't know.
16:29 jojoa1997 so use minetest.after in a functiona dn at the end of the function make it do the function over again
16:29 kaeza yep
16:29 ShadowNinja thexyz: Do you know how I can set a custom away nick for ZNC?
16:30 jojoa1997 idk how to do what kaeza said
16:30 ShadowNinja look at the irc mod code and change the time
16:32 kaeza jojoa1997, http://pastebin.com/E3xBeW66
16:32 ShadowNinja minetest.after(1, my_func)*
16:33 kaeza ShadowNinja, already fixed, refresh paste ;)
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16:37 PilzAdam on_globalstep() is recommended for timer things, since after() is not very reliable
16:38 PilzAdam after() uses on_globalstep() too, so you dont loose any accuracy
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16:39 PilzAdam new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
16:42 Kacey someone should make a windowsinstaller
16:42 jojoa1997 yes that automatically compiles too
16:43 kaeza Kacey, I made one long ago
16:43 jojoa1997 no nvm i like to keep mine portable
16:43 jojoa1997 regen potions now works
16:44 PilzAdam <jojoa1997> yes that automatically compiles too <- that isnt really an installer, then
16:44 PilzAdam just a script that runs a compiler
16:44 jojoa1997 ok
16:44 kaeza Kacey, I only made the script; if someone wants to take it and try to make an installer, it'd be welcome
16:45 kaeza I may provide one myself once 0.4.7 (0.5.0? [1.0.0??]) is released
16:45 rubenwardy I am at my broadband's cap
16:46 rubenwardy use this script, mind: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5397343
16:46 rubenwardy I am providing them for official builds
16:46 sfan5 fuck yeah! everything works as expected
16:47 kaeza rubenwardy, that is mah script!!
16:47 PilzAdam sfan5, your node queue processing is way too slow
16:47 jojoa1997 how do i enable ravines
16:47 rubenwardy kaeza: I updated  it and improved it
16:47 sfan5 PilzAdam: i set operations per globalstep to 5 for testing..
16:48 kaeza rubenwardy, I know, mine was very basic
16:48 PilzAdam 512 works fine for everything without dig_node()
16:48 PilzAdam (see WE++)
16:49 jojoa1997 how do i enable ravines
16:49 PilzAdam jojoa1997, please dont double post
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16:51 jojoa1997 well how
16:52 Xenorax Click edit.
16:52 jojoa1997 ?
16:52 BlockMen jojoa1997, if you havent solved your timer function yet, take a look at that: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85244#p85244
16:53 BlockMen all other: bye
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17:06 rubenwardy spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5781
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17:08 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Add Block Queue 5e5c1dc6c3 2013-04-28T10:08:09-07:00 http://git.io/xZXToQ
17:09 sfan5 rubenwardy: banned
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17:12 bas080 is stairplus mod gone?
17:12 bas080 I cannot find it on the forums
17:13 [0gb_us] Stairsplus nodes were moved to moreblocks.
17:13 bas080 ty 0gb_us.
17:13 * [0gb_us] renames moreblocks to morenodes
17:17 * [0gb_us] builds a new moreblocks plugin that adds more blocks to the game, making the map bigger
17:18 jojoa1997 are transparaent pngs supported by minetest
17:18 Jordach2 jojoa1997, only in latest git
17:18 [0gb_us] Not partial transparency, but full transparency is.
17:18 jojoa1997 what would happen if it isnt the latest git?
17:19 [0gb_us] The images wouldn't look right.
17:19 jojoa1997 so no pertial transparency in latest :/
17:19 bas080 Maybe i have a old version but when i have stairplus installed i cannot craft items that contain stairs:stair_wood. It overrides the recipe. can aliases fix this?
17:19 [0gb_us] I know, I answered for in stable. In stable, partial transparency is not suported.
17:20 [0gb_us] I don't know how to use aliases to fix that, but it might be possible.
17:21 sfan5 !server players:least
17:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Spanish Server | 198.211.125.161:30000 | Clients: 0/50 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.119
17:22 sfan5 !server players:most
17:22 MinetestBot sfan5: WazuClan.com | wazuclan.com:30000 | Clients: 17/32 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.212
17:26 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload server
17:26 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 17:27:09)
17:32 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I had an idea, a mass highlight kick. If more that say 10 highlights are found in a message you are kicked, same for mass badwords
17:34 NakedFury I like that shadow
17:34 NakedFury easier than it is to wait for that same user to spam that msg many times
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17:35 * [0gb_us] logs in with several accounts with names that are common words
17:36 * rubenwardy is wondering what to do...
17:38 * [0gb_us] logs in as: a, an, the, Minetest, game, node, block, mod, Lua, C, jungle, dungeon, desert, beach, I, if, and more
17:39 [0gb_us] I'll watch how people speak, and learn what other words I need to log in as to kick everyone.
17:39 sfan5 ShadowNinja: 10 is too high
17:40 [0gb_us] But it keeps sentences with nine or fewer words safe.
17:40 sfan5 5 is better, nobody will every legitimately highlight more than 5 people in one sentence
17:42 rubenwardy It would be hilarious if the script was buggy
17:42 sfan5 yeah
17:42 sfan5 :D
17:42 rubenwardy kicked everyone that said anything
17:43 [0gb_us] THat's the plan with my common word nicks.
17:43 [0gb_us] I'll get notified, and they'll get kicked.
17:43 * [0gb_us] is such a trouble maker sometimes
17:44 rubenwardy xsfan5x
17:44 rubenwardy ^ did that highlight you?
17:44 [0gb_us] Hmm. Loopholes ....
17:46 * [0gb_us] will have to find another way to prank people
17:47 * [0gb_us] logs in as the RealBadAngel look-alike, RealBadAngle
17:47 rubenwardy lol
17:47 RealBadAngle that is registered
17:47 [0gb_us] Sorry, My name.
17:47 sfan5 rubenwardy: no
17:48 RealBadAngle Jojoa accidentally typed the letters out of order once, so I scooped up this name.
17:49 RealBadAngle Though I usually use it as RealBadAngle|361, to make sure people don't mix us up.
17:49 sfan5 what about RaalBedAngel
17:50 [Ogb_ud] damn
17:51 RealBadAngle|361 My name contains no O. Foolishness!
17:51 [Ogb_us] mww ha ha ha
17:51 [Ogb_us] will still confuse people
17:52 * RealBadAngle|361 still regrets the zero in his name, but there is no fix at this point
17:52 markveidemanis spam5
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17:53 RealBadAngle|361 Only the worst of angles have more than 360 degrees or less than -360.
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17:53 RealBadAngle|361 Hey, StrayBytes.
17:54 Guest89133 Hello!
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17:54 Guest89133 Stupid nickserv...
17:54 * RealBadAngle|361 wishes NickServe could put a one second login time on his account
17:55 RealBadAngle|361 *nickServ
17:55 RealBadAngle|361 *NickServ
17:55 RealBadAngle|361 One of these times, I'll spell it correctly.
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17:58 Jordach2 hey hey
17:58 Jordach2 dont make me get VanessaE to kick nick spam
17:59 sfan5 Jordach2: you don't need to get VanessaE, i just need to type !kick whoever_you_want
17:59 Jordach2 ^ lazy
17:59 rubenwardy !kick Jordach2
17:59 Jordach2 rubenwardy, its nick based
17:59 rubenwardy I know
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18:10 jojoa1997 kaeza ping
18:10 kaeza polo
18:11 jojoa1997 how do i load dguns in firearms
18:11 kaeza shift+click
18:11 jojoa1997 also your ray mod
18:12 jojoa1997 you could have blocks e lightened when looking through sniper or whatever gun you want
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18:17 Nesdood007 Hello
18:18 rubenwardy Bye
18:19 rubenwardy lol
18:19 rubenwardy Here today, gone [s]tomorrow[/s] 50 seconds later
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18:29 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: WorldEdit 0.6 522edf1cd4 2013-04-28T11:27:25-07:00 http://git.io/iqB0yQ
18:31 jordan4ibanez It would be creepy if graveyards, could generate under water. Let's try that.
18:32 RealBadAngle|361 Why only underwater? I think having them on land would be cool too.
18:32 * RealBadAngle|361 wants graveyards now
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18:33 jordan4ibanez What? No, they don't generate under water now. I am working on a way to get them to generate, so that if a player runs across one, they're startled.
18:33 jordan4ibanez This is the creepiest way they spawn; http://i.imgur.com/URZyMYv.jpg.
18:34 RealBadAngle|361 ...
18:34 RealBadAngle|361 Oh, awesome!
18:36 [0gb_us] That would be a great addition.
18:37 Calinou suddenly: they are generated in lua, so core devs won't add it to the default game
18:37 jordan4ibanez Plot twist: They use worldedit, so good fawking luck adding that!
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18:45 rubenwardy WTF, my site got no visits between 25-31 march! must have been down
18:45 rubenwardy It normally get 300-480 visits
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18:48 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
18:48 jordan4ibanez I finally found the elusive mickey mouse tree. http://i.imgur.com/Op66FR8.png
18:48 MinetestBot IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 28)
18:49 jojoa1997 hi all
18:50 [0gb_us] jordan4ibanez: I see those all the time.
18:50 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
18:50 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 18:51:20)
18:50 [0gb_us] jojoa1997: Hello.
18:50 MinetestBot IndexError: no such group (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 136, in badword_watcher)
18:50 sfan5 !badword off
18:50 MinetestBot IndexError: no such group (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 136, in badword_watcher)
18:50 sfan5 wtf
18:50 MinetestBot IndexError: no such group (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 136, in badword_watcher)
18:50 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
18:50 * ShadowBot wakes up
18:51 rubenwardy chop?
18:52 sfan5 CHannel OP
18:52 sfan5 and no.. that modules does not chop onions for you
18:54 rubenwardy I was thinking more along the lines of chopping people's heads of
18:54 rubenwardy *off
18:54 sfan5 haha
18:55 rubenwardy SH1T FOCK POTATO MINECRAFT... chop
18:55 sfan5 rubenwardy: i may actually add "chop!" as the kick message
18:56 rubenwardy yeah lol
18:56 rubenwardy nice to know that I am of advise-al value
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18:57 * ShadowBot sleeps
18:57 MinetestBot IndexError: no such group (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 136, in badword_watcher)
18:57 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
18:57 MinetestBot IndexError: no such group (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 136, in badword_watcher)
18:57 * ShadowBot wakes up
18:57 rubenwardy poor ShadowBot
18:58 rubenwardy must be a restless night for him
18:58 sfan5 yeah
18:58 jojoa1997 how do i turn on ravines
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19:00 * ShadowBot sleeps
19:00 MinetestBot IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 18, in num_badwords)
19:00 rubenwardy lol
19:00 MinetestBot IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 18, in num_badwords)
19:00 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit
19:00 rubenwardy lol
19:00 MinetestBot IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 18, in num_badwords)
19:00 * ShadowBot wakes up
19:02 rubenwardy can I test?
19:02 rubenwardy sfan5 PilzAdam, RealBadAngel, thexyz, VanessaE, AndrewPH
19:03 rubenwardy oh, idiot
19:03 sfan5 rubenwardy: chop.py has no highlighting kick yet
19:03 rubenwardy hmm
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19:03 * ShadowBot sleeps
19:03 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'rgx' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 29, in num_badwords)
19:03 sfan5 !badword off
19:03 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'rgx' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py", line 29, in num_badwords)
19:03 sfan5 test
19:04 jojoa1997 how do i stop minetest from using mg_name = v7
19:06 [0gb_us] Delete the mg_name = v7 line.
19:06 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
19:06 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 19:07:00)
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19:06 sfan5 test
19:06 sfan5 works!
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19:06 sfan5 1 fuck 2 fucks 3 fucks 4 fucks 5 fucks
19:06 sfan5 hmm
19:06 jojoa1997 sfan5 it keeps coming back
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19:21 kaeza this looks fun
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19:21 sfan5 MinetestBot: 1 fuck 2 fucks 3 fucks 4 fucks 5 fucks
19:21 sfan5 was kicked by MinetestBot: CHOP!
19:21 kaeza MinetestBot, fuck you
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19:22 sfan5 yay!
19:22 kaeza lol
19:22 kaeza MinetestBot, fuck you
19:22 kaeza ?
19:22 sfan5 kaeza: you need to give more than 4 fucks to get kicked
19:22 kaeza fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
19:23 kaeza derp
19:23 jojoa1997 is there a way i can join two plyers into a local world with one client
19:23 kaeza fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
19:23 kaeza was kicked by MinetestBot: CHOP!
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19:23 kaeza lol
19:23 kaeza ...
19:24 kaeza :D
19:24 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
19:24 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.pyc'> (version: 2013-04-28 19:22:30)
19:24 sfan5 fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
19:24 sfan5 ...
19:24 kaeza [16:23:12] * Has sido expulsado de #minetest por MinetestBot (CHOP!)
19:24 sfan5 apparently the badwordlist doesn't get reloaded
19:25 sfan5 ..or my regex is wrong
19:25 kaeza flood control works?
19:26 sfan5 flood... not yet
19:26 Calinou "well, fuck." me in #minecrafthelp @ espernet
19:27 Calinou didn't get caught :p
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19:27 kaeza Calinou, they got used to read "this game is bad as fuck"
19:32 StrayBytes To everyone here: I've grown insanely tired of this engine feature war. You may find me at my Java project, Mosstest(unless I rename it eventually).
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19:37 VanessaE ShadowNinja: mass highlights/curses = ban, yes definitely.
19:37 VanessaE hmmmm: the alpha feature you added doesn't seem to have an impact on performance at all
19:38 VanessaE (large planes of tinted, single-node glass have no measurable effect on fps anyway)
19:41 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
19:41 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 19:42:20)
19:41 sfan5 !badword reload
19:41 MinetestBot error: unbalanced parenthesis (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/re.py", line 245, in _compile)
19:41 sfan5 wat?
19:41 MinetestBot error: unbalanced parenthesis (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/re.py", line 245, in _compile)
19:41 sfan5 !badword off
19:41 MinetestBot error: unbalanced parenthesis (file "/usr/lib/python2.6/re.py", line 245, in _compile)
19:42 sfan5 test
19:48 * VanessaE is still in scrollback, reading
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19:50 kaeza sfan5 whatcha testing now?
19:50 sfan5 chop
19:50 sfan5 (badword=
19:50 sfan5 s/=/)/
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19:51 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
19:51 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 19:51:24)
19:51 sfan5 !badword reload
19:52 VanessaE there we go.
19:53 VanessaE re: mass highlights/badwords:  only if the user does substantially the same thing twice in a row
19:53 VanessaE (otherwise it might kick a few legit uses, like if one of us fucking goes of on a G*d damn rant ;-)
19:54 VanessaE (ran out of places to curse ;) )
19:54 Jordach2 ugh
19:55 Jordach2 were turning into goody two shoes
19:55 Jordach2 fuck that shit
19:55 [0gb_us] Who would go on a rant on this channel?
19:55 VanessaE Jordach2: nononono
19:55 VanessaE Jordach2: it's to boot out the flooders who just spam the channel with nicks or too many expletives over and over
19:55 VanessaE [0gb_us]: hah!
19:55 Jordach2 so shit shit shit.... etc
19:56 Jordach2 BUT
19:56 kaeza I don't feel very good about badword filters
19:56 Jordach2 leaving the bots in the OP position
19:56 VanessaE Jordach2: like this:
19:56 Jordach2 is bad in case they get hacked
19:56 kaeza most of the time it kicks legit usage of bad words
19:56 * sfan5 removed the "not so hard badwords" from the list
19:56 VanessaE [04-26 08:53] <alanroger> ecube Exio loggingbot_ NakedFury nyuszika7h sfan5 Someguy123 VanessaE xyecube Exio loggingbot_ NakedFury nyuszika7h sfan5 Someguy123 VanessaE xyecube Exio loggingbot_ NakedFury nyuszika7h sfan5 Someguy123 VanessaE xy
19:56 sfan5 anyway, everyone take a look at http://sfan5.minetest.net/badwords.txt and tell me what needs to change
19:57 sfan5 VanessaE: chop.py will handle that later too
19:57 VanessaE or the same guy under different nicks, spewing forth nothing but a long string of expletives.
19:57 Jordach2 lost it at: raw Carpet Muncher
19:57 Exio VanessaE: is spamming other time needed?
19:57 VanessaE Exio:  potentially.
19:58 VanessaE I have no issue myself with ranting and cursing - use it all you want
19:58 Jordach2 thexyz, possible soloution to the bots
19:58 Jordach2 check the screen res
19:58 Jordach2 most bots dont have it
19:58 VanessaE it's when you go overboard or you just use it as a way to flood the channel
19:59 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
19:59 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 19:59:49)
19:59 Exio Jordach2: some users don't have javascript enabled either
19:59 sfan5 its chopping time!
19:59 kaeza sfan5, Ŧµ©ĸ ¥Ωµ
19:59 nyuszika7h VanessaE: ...
19:59 sfan5 !kick kaeza
19:59 kaeza was kicked by MinetestBot: kaeza
19:59 VanessaE ?
19:59 VanessaE nyuszika7h: hm?
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19:59 kaeza sfan5, lol
19:59 sfan5 kaeza: theres still a manual way ;)
19:59 nyuszika7h VanessaE: why did you paste the mass highlight of the spammer ._.
20:00 nyuszika7h you do realize you just masshighlighted people
20:00 Jordach2 i still think its wrong to have an automated machine do it
20:01 ecube VanessaE: what?
20:01 VanessaE nyuszika7h: to show Jordach2 that there is an actual problem with it.
20:01 nyuszika7h VanessaE: ...
20:01 VanessaE ecube: nevermind.  example only.
20:01 kaeza nyuszika7h, if this will prevent you know who from doing it, isn't it worth the ping?
20:01 nyuszika7h repasting spam = bad
20:01 nyuszika7h lrn2pastebin
20:01 nyuszika7h ...
20:01 nyuszika7h you all don't get the point
20:01 VanessaE nyuszika7h: um, I advise you not to warn ME of that :)
20:02 nyuszika7h VanessaE: sorry, no offense intended, please don't ban me for this, but really I'd not expect *this* from an op
20:02 VanessaE nyuszika7h: relax
20:03 VanessaE repasting spam = know your enemy
20:03 nyuszika7h sfan5: what bot is MinetestBot?
20:03 nyuszika7h looks like phenny/jenni
20:03 sfan5 nyuszika7h: its phenny
20:03 nyuszika7h ah
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20:08 kaeza sfan5, serously speaking, you forgot "fak" and variations
20:08 sfan5 kaeza: i just copied some list from the internet
20:09 Exio what
20:09 Exio are badwords banned now?
20:09 sfan5 !badword reload
20:09 sfan5 kaeza: added
20:10 kaeza fakfakfakfakfak
20:10 kaeza fak fak fak fak fak fak
20:10 kaeza derp
20:10 VanessaE heh
20:11 VanessaE Exio: only in copious amounts
20:11 Exio ah, perfect
20:11 VanessaE (because then it goes from being a simple "FUCK!!" to "let's spam the channel and piss off everyone we possibly can"
20:12 kaeza "a common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
20:13 VanessaE heh
20:13 kaeza (of course, you can always make it more foolproof ;) )
20:13 Exio f**k you motherf**cker damn you f**cking 1d|ot - go to hell b1tch
20:13 Exio :D
20:14 VanessaE THAT will take some effort to match
20:17 * kahrl goes to work on his brushite ore and cocktail mixing mods
20:18 VanessaE brushite ore?
20:18 kahrl mineral. whatever :P
20:18 sfan5 !badword on
20:18 sfan5 !badword reload
20:18 kaeza wut
20:18 kaeza "knob" is a bad word?
20:19 VanessaE sfan5: worldedit block queue?  NICE!!!
20:19 sfan5 VanessaE: YES IK!!!!
20:19 jordan4ibanez Time to try MOBF again.
20:19 * VanessaE git pulls
20:19 john_minetest sfan5: plz write a list of all badwords in irc so we can all see what not to say ;)
20:20 sfan5 john_minetest: http://sfan5.minetest.net/badwords.txt
20:20 sfan5 VanessaE: it also works with node metadate
20:20 sfan5 *data
20:20 VanessaE nice
20:20 VanessaE deployed it to my server
20:21 PilzAdam sfan5, how does WE handle many commands at once?
20:21 sfan5 PilzAdam: it just gets pushed onto the queue
20:21 john_minetest sfan5: I didn't even know most of these words
20:21 sfan5 john_minetest: me too ;)
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20:22 VanessaE PilzAdam, Calinou: can you add ^[transformR180  to some sides of the various stone bricks so that they're properly UV-mapped?
20:22 VanessaE moreblocks bricks, default bricks, etc.
20:22 PilzAdam wut?
20:23 Calinou k, I'll do that later :) have to go, bye
20:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: make the textures line up going around corners, so that the sides match the front and the bricks don't look like they'd have to be prisms
20:23 VanessaE Calinou: ok
20:23 john_minetest sfan5: a little test for the bot: "charles dickens wrote 'oliver twist'."
20:23 john_minetest hmmm
20:24 VanessaE or not R180, but rather ^[transformFY
20:25 kaeza sfan5, I see some superfluous words in there
20:25 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload chop
20:25 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'chop' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/chop.py'> (version: 2013-04-28 20:26:45)
20:25 sfan5 !badword on
20:25 MinetestBot done.
20:25 kaeza namely "h4x0r" and "knob"
20:26 sfan5 !badword enable
20:26 MinetestBot done.
20:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: calinou did something similar with the various "checker" blocks in moreblocks - the black and grey squares on one side are rotated relative to adjacent sides, so that the block looks like it's made up of little black and grey cubes
20:26 kaeza also, I'm not sure if "nazi" is a bad word per-se
20:27 VanessaE kaeza: I would say no, depending on the context
20:27 kaeza oh right, german laws
20:27 john_minetest sfan5: what does "regex badword.*" mean?
20:27 VanessaE (some Germans might disagree of course....and I am of German descent - go figure)
20:27 VanessaE john_minetest: look up regular expressions
20:27 sfan5 !badword reload
20:27 MinetestBot done.
20:28 VanessaE john_minetest: .* means "repeat the last phrase indefinitely" if I remember right.
20:28 kaeza erhm no
20:28 kaeza '.' matches any char
20:28 VanessaE kaeza: somehow I don't think that applies here :)
20:28 kaeza .* zero or more occurrences of any char
20:28 sfan5 kaeza is right
20:28 sfan5 !badword reload
20:28 MinetestBot done.
20:29 kaeza so badword.* matches anything that begins with 'badword'
20:29 VanessaE oh ok
20:29 VanessaE well it's been ages since I last used a regex
20:29 VanessaE damn things confuse me
20:30 sfan5 any requests to remove/add something to the badword list?
20:30 kaeza VanessaE, echo "aaabccc" | sed -e 's/a./x/g'
20:31 kahrl add 'minecraft' :P
20:31 kaeza result should be "xaxbccc"
20:31 * [0gb_us] suggests adding certain peoples' names to the list
20:31 jordan4ibanez The forum, she won't load.
20:31 * kaeza suggests [0gb_us]
20:32 jordan4ibanez There we go.
20:32 * kaeza also tried to tab-complete "suggests"
20:32 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: thexyz just timed out, maybe thats related
20:32 john_minetest so "badword.*" means that also "badwordflamewars" is forbidden?
20:32 sfan5 john_minetest: yes
20:32 * sfan5 'll go to bed now
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20:32 [0gb_us] Let's add MinetestBot and ShadowBot to the list.
20:32 * sfan5 just tried to use Ctrl+D to exit irc...
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20:33 sfan5 [0gb_us]: sure
20:33 [0gb_us] Good night.
20:33 kaeza night sfan
20:33 VanessaE night, sfan5|OFF
20:34 VanessaE oops, missed
20:34 jordan4ibanez Goodnight sfan5|OFF. http://i.imgur.com/UGt8ghH.gif
20:37 [0gb_us] OOH! Add: .*[0-9].*
20:38 [0gb_us] Digits are forbidden here.
20:38 jordan4ibanez You guys should help me dislike every single one of this guy's videos. http://www.youtube.com/user/YellForYozzi
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20:41 [0gb_us] Why dislike them?
20:41 * [0gb_us] doesn't know who that is
20:42 kaeza jordan4ibanez, rofl cod
20:42 VanessaE why dislike?
20:43 Exio kaeza: ping?
20:43 jordan4ibanez I know I know, it is one of my brother's friends, and he tried to go on an unfriending spree on my channel, and he is going to try to make multiple accounts to dislike my videos, I just want to get the point across.
20:43 kaeza Exio, polo
20:43 jordan4ibanez Unliking.* Too much Facebook.
20:44 [0gb_us] Ping Polo. Is that a new Minetest IRC thing?
20:44 john_minetest Maybe the brother of Marco Polo ;)
20:45 [0gb_us] Maybe. The brother that is better with computers.
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20:59 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Ten bad words -> host ban now
20:59 ShadowNinja Now fir hilight
21:00 VanessaE host ban?  so the whole class-A?
21:00 ShadowNinja s/fir/for/
21:00 ShadowBot What ShadowNinja meant to say was: Now for hilight
21:00 VanessaE hah!
21:00 ShadowNinja The banmask style is currently host
21:00 ShadowNinja !config search style
21:00 VanessaE that'll work for now.
21:00 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: There were no matching configuration variables.
21:00 ShadowNinja !config search Style
21:00 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: There were no matching configuration variables.
21:01 VanessaE as for shadowbot performing that sed expression, I dunno if that's wise, but it's cute :)
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21:01 ShadowNinja hmmm, anyway I can change it if you want. Do you want a host ban?
21:01 VanessaE hostban is good.
21:02 VanessaE as long as you control for web chat hosts.
21:03 ShadowNinja Now for testing ;-) I had better go somewhere where I have chanserv unban access.
21:06 bcnjr5 Can I use C in LUA functions?
21:07 VanessaE no
21:07 bcnjr5 darn
21:07 VanessaE you can call C functions from Lua if you've added the appropriate API hooks to your C program
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21:07 VanessaE but otherwise, Lua is Lua and that's all it'll run
21:08 Exio ffi?
21:08 bcnjr5 Can I include C in the mod?
21:08 VanessaE bcnjr5: no
21:08 VanessaE Lua only.
21:08 bcnjr5 :(
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21:10 VanessaE sowwy
21:11 jordan4ibanez is there a list for the best minetest mods?
21:11 VanessaE that would depend entirely on what you call 'best'
21:11 [0gb_us] True.
21:12 [0gb_us] THere are RADICALLY different opinions on that.
21:12 VanessaE for some people, best = "the mod with the most damaging weapons"
21:12 VanessaE for others, "the mod with the most beautiful decorative blocks"
21:13 * [0gb_us] likes poison ivy for it's beautiful decorative blocks
21:13 [0gb_us] Also, this: http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/103/f/4/f475615f739efef457a99be38266dc54-d3dwiul.jpg
21:14 bcnjr5 http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t453/theicaruscrane/ddos_zps72a61515.jpg
21:14 [0gb_us] Fool! He thinks he doesn't need sanity ...
21:14 VanessaE haha
21:14 STHGOM :D
21:14 STHGOM sainity is something everyone should have
21:15 [0gb_us] I agree.
21:15 VanessaE why? :)
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21:15 jordan4ibanez Like I think pipeworks would probably be #2 next to mesecons right now
21:16 [0gb_us] Some sanity, anyway. Too much sanity is boring, but too little is irritating.
21:16 STHGOM :D
21:19 bcnjr5 What does the "melty" node group do?
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21:21 jin_xi stuff that melts, like ice and cheese perhaps?
21:21 bcnjr5 The wiki says only steelblocks have it.
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21:21 john_minetest gtg, bye
21:22 STHGOM bye
21:22 the_poll_dude who here is awsome?
21:22 PilzAdam bcnjr5, nothing, its useless
21:22 jojoa1997 http://pastebin.com/n2gkE9L4
21:22 jojoa1997 http://pastebin.com/RSduypkF
21:22 jojoa1997 http://pastebin.com/Sa1JeVyB
21:22 jojoa1997 i need help
21:22 jojoa1997 the first is error, second api.lua, third init.lua
21:23 bcnjr5 I had been looking for that file...
21:23 PilzAdam jojoa1997, pagenum is nowhere initialized
21:24 jojoa1997 yeah in int.lua
21:24 jojoa1997 or not
21:24 jojoa1997 how do i initialize it
21:25 PilzAdam pagenum = 0 or something like this
21:26 jordan4ibanez VanessaE: the Spig or faucet outlet does not check if there is air below it, and just replaces the node with water
21:27 VanessaE I'll fix it later on then
21:31 jojoa1997 the search fromspec comes up but then it shuts on itself
21:34 jojoa1997 does anyone know why?
21:35 STHGOM it sux
21:36 kaeza abd
21:36 kaeza s/d/c/
21:37 kaeza :(
21:37 STHGOM jk i dont even know what you talking 'bout
21:39 ShadowNinja There, mass badwords ban debugged and working.
21:40 kaeza bcnjr5, this is overcomplicated, but explains it in detail: http://lua-users.org/wiki/BuildingModules
21:41 kaeza badword badword badword badword badword
21:42 kaeza ShadowNinja, ? ^
21:42 bcnjr5 It's simpler than explaining how DLLs work! Thanks!
21:42 kaeza ehm... wat
21:43 ShadowNinja kaeza: badwordtest ten times -> host ban
21:43 kaeza bcnjr5, you need DLLs (or *.so) if you want to use DLLs with Minetest
21:44 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: working on a fix now.
21:44 kaeza bcnjr5, actually, DLLs do not work on Windows methinks
21:44 jordan4ibanez If only I could read.
21:44 kaeza (some magicks in the dynamic loader)
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21:45 bcnjr5 kaeza: I make and use them all the time.
21:46 bcnjr5 Most games have a ton of them on windows.
21:46 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: fixed in git.
21:47 jordan4ibanez yay
21:47 jordan4ibanez How do I set the water height in the .conf?
21:48 kaeza bcnjr5, lolwut
21:49 kaeza bcnjr5, that was meant to be taken in context
21:49 kaeza (I was talking about loading DLLs in Lua from MT)
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21:50 MinetestLive hi
21:50 kaeza hi
21:51 MinetestLive (it's me, Sketch2)
21:51 MinetestLive testing a smaller Live build with SliTaz
21:51 kaeza hello Windows Live user
21:51 kaeza </Calinou>
21:51 MinetestLive lols, no not Windows.  wouldn't touch Win unless I absolutely had to
21:52 [0gb_us] Same here
21:52 [0gb_us] .
21:52 jojoa1997 can anyone help
21:52 kaeza ^troll
21:53 [0gb_us] (My period key is still jammed.)
21:53 [0gb_us] Help how?
21:53 kaeza ^grammar nazi
21:53 kaeza VanessaE, legit usage of "nazi"
21:53 [0gb_us] Since when do I get on peoples' cases about grammar?
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> http://pastebin.com/n2gkE9L4
21:53 MinetestLive 0gb needs a tampon?
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> http://pastebin.com/RSduypkF
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> http://pastebin.com/Sa1JeVyB
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> i need help
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> the first is error, second api.lua, third init.lua
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> the search fromspec comes up but then it shuts on itself
21:53 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> does anyone know why?
21:54 kaeza MinetestLive, lol
21:54 [0gb_us] Tampons? No thanks, I don't use those.
21:55 MinetestLive j/k. just commenting on the fact yr having trouble with yr period
21:55 [0gb_us] jojoa1997: You passes an unassigned variable to math.floor().
21:55 [0gb_us] OH! Got it.
21:56 [0gb_us] *pass
21:56 MinetestLive was gonna rebuild this with XFCE, but I'm kinda diggin whatever X manager it defaults to
21:56 [0gb_us] pagenum = math.floor(pagenum)
21:56 MinetestLive one of the BOX'es.  slackbox or something
21:56 [0gb_us] But it's at the top of the function, before assigning pagenum.
21:56 MinetestLive er OpenBox I think it is
21:57 jojoa1997 so which line do i put it in
21:57 jojoa1997 and do i do the same with pagemax?
21:57 [0gb_us] I'm looking for a good window manager at the moment.
21:58 [0gb_us] You assign the variable a value. Since I don't know what you are after, I don't know what to change. I can only point out where the error is being thrown from.
21:59 MinetestLive I like XFCE.  OpenBox seems to be stripped down, but still usable
21:59 jojoa1997 ok so i press the button "Search", and i want it to set the player formspec to "CREATIVE_SEARCH_ITEMS"
21:59 [0gb_us] OpenBox gives me a blank screen with a cursor.
22:00 jojoa1997 but when i do press the button after around 5 seconds it switches and then reverts back
22:00 [0gb_us] And XFCE I think installs a bunch of applications I don't need.
22:00 jojoa1997 the pagenum is just what is in creative inventory
22:00 [0gb_us] Is it local to the creative inventory though? Like maybe, you can't reach it from your code?
22:01 MinetestLive ooh, that sux.  try downloading SliTaz iso and run it in VirtualBox if you'd like to see OpenBox in action.
22:01 jojoa1997 so make it global
22:01 [0gb_us] I've seen OpenBox in action, and I get a blank desktop with no way to navigate.
22:01 MinetestLive thinking of putting the latest Firefox on here + minetest
22:02 jojoa1997 nope it does the same thing
22:02 [0gb_us] You can't make it global from another plugin.
22:02 jojoa1997 no this is all the same mod
22:02 MinetestLive well, yea.  I'm just saying that might be a bug.  It may get ironed out sometime
22:02 [0gb_us] SO you are editing creative then?
22:02 [0gb_us] *So
22:03 jojoa1997 yes
22:03 jojoa1997 well kinda
22:03 jojoa1997 i got rid of creative and am writing new one
22:03 [0gb_us] Okay, I'm no expert at creative. I don't know the inner workings of that code.
22:04 jojoa1997 PilzAdam can you help?
22:04 PilzAdam I already told you what to do
22:04 jojoa1997 and i did it
22:05 jojoa1997 but the "search" formspec wont stay
22:05 jojoa1997 it goes then reverts back
22:06 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> ok so i press the button "Search", and i want it to set the player formspec to "CREATIVE_SEARCH_ITEMS"
22:06 jojoa1997 <jojoa1997> but when i do press the button after around 5 seconds it switches and then reverts back
22:09 jojoa1997 anything?
22:09 jojoa1997 fixed
22:10 jojoa1997 i needed to add a ruturn somewhere
22:11 jordan4ibanez Someone should make a mod which runs clearitems every 15/30/45/60 minutes
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22:12 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, clearitems?
22:12 jordan4ibanez Whatever the command is. Killall or whatever.
22:12 [0gb_us] That's called builtin_item by PilzAdam, or something.
22:12 PilzAdam ah, you mean /clearobjects
22:13 PilzAdam yea, builtin_item has a timer to remove dropped items
22:14 [0gb_us] It's a lot nicer on RAM than /clearobjects, too.
22:16 jordan4ibanez No, what I mean is a way to clear everything every so often, all entities.
22:16 [0gb_us] PilzAdam: I have code that alters /clearobjects to only clear LOADED objects. Unlike the current way, it causes no hanging or crash and works instantly, but also leaves objects in unloaded blocks. Is that worth pull requesting to Minetest, or would it not be accepted?
22:17 PilzAdam it would be nice to have a param for clearobjects to only remove loaded objects
22:18 [0gb_us] Like "/clearobjects all" and "/clearobjects loaded"? Which should be the default?
22:18 jordan4ibanez It would be nice if entities were all seperate of eachother instead of just clones of each other
22:18 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, ehm, they are sperate
22:19 jordan4ibanez No they're not, they are not individual entities. They all use the same light value.
22:19 PilzAdam [0gb_us], yes, but leave /clearobjects without params as "all"
22:19 [0gb_us] Okay. I'll do that in a bit then.
22:19 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, oh, you mean that part
22:20 PilzAdam Taoki said something that we need to load the mesh multiple times into Minetest to fix it
22:20 Taoki PilzAdam: Something Irrlicht can't do, we already tried at the time\
22:20 Taoki Needs HW lighting
22:20 jordan4ibanez That can't be right. Otherwise nodes would have to do the same.
22:20 [0gb_us] Loading more meshes sounds like more RAM consumption to me.
22:20 Taoki Will be AFK from the chat now
22:21 Taoki [0gb_us]: That too, and rendering in batches is faster. This happens because of the lightning system MT uses
22:21 kahrl Actually, with shaders it would need no hardware lighting and no copies of the mesh
22:21 kahrl Since you can just pass the lighting value directly to the shader
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22:22 kahrl hmm, without shaders (in the fixed pipeline) it could be done by setting the ambient light
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22:30 MinetestLive I hate it when things get complicated
22:31 MinetestLive especially while attempting to simplify life
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22:35 STHGOM moo
22:38 bcnjr5_ /help
22:41 STHGOM what u need hlp fer?
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22:42 bcnjr5_ nothing. I added a space by accident.
22:52 bcnjr5_ >
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22:56 jordan4ibanez If we have the engine auto-deleting entities, it's like we don't trust the modders to delete their own entities, the worst thing that could happen, is there could be so many entities that the game crashes, so why does it even need to be in the game?
22:56 jordan4ibanez It is a very irritating "Feature"
22:57 VanessaE you mean when you get over some number in a block
22:57 VanessaE ?
23:00 jordan4ibanez Yes.
23:00 jordan4ibanez Warning: Over 49 entities detected, deleting all.
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23:01 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Mass highlight banning should be working wow
23:02 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix loading of schematics containing chests that had empty slots. 98c5bc5c5f 2013-04-28T16:01:24-07:00 http://git.io/k4s_3A
23:02 VanessaE excellent
23:02 Exio ShadowNinja: how many nicks for calling it "mass highlight"?
23:02 ShadowNinja 10
23:03 ShadowNinja Bye for now
23:03 bcnjr5 Bye.
23:03 * Exio highlights ShadowNinja 9 times in a single line
23:03 Exio bye ShadowNinja :P
23:10 StrayBytes Potential DoS: A user with a nick of a, and a long message.
23:10 STHGOM cya
23:13 PilzAdam bye
23:18 bcnjr5 wtf?
23:19 [0gb_us] StrayBytes: Or my idea from earlier. Sign in with several accounts named after common words.
23:19 StrayBytes Yeah.
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23:20 jordan4ibanez yaw is left-right rotation right?
23:20 kaeza yep
23:21 kaeza pitch is up and down, and roll is, well, roll
23:21 kaeza (note: we don't have roll in MT)
23:24 jordan4ibanez When I do get_yaw and set_yaw functions, it doesn't set it in the direction the player was pointing. >:(
23:29 jordan4ibanez It just doesn't make any sense. The values are the same, what could be wrong.
23:30 [0gb_us] Pastebin the code fragment.
23:30 jordan4ibanez get_look_yaw(): yaw in radians (wraps around pretty randomly as of now) Oh.
23:31 [0gb_us] Okay, at least you found it then.
23:31 Kacey bbiab
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23:41 kahrl [crosspost from #minetest-dev] I made an algorithm proposal for optional dependencies. http://paste.dy.fi/MyA
23:41 kahrl Untested, so if anyone sees a bug, that's appreciated
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23:43 [0gb_us] Optional dependencies? Nice! There are so many hacks to do that, it would be nice to have a built-in right way.
23:43 kahrl Yeah.
23:43 kahrl especially since you can't call any register functions in a minetest.after() callback
23:43 kahrl which would be the most common way, I guess
23:45 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0EIpbHFqFc this would be an easy mod to make
23:45 [0gb_us] That's the way I most often use.
23:47 arsdragonfly any ways to emulate a text editor?
23:48 jordan4ibanez The fuck kind of a question is that? Lol.
23:48 jordan4ibanez Ohh, oh oh oh.
23:48 jordan4ibanez Formspecs, maybe.
23:48 kahrl just install the emacs mod
23:48 Exio nah kahrl
23:49 Exio he wanted to emulate a text editor, not a whole OS :D
23:49 kahrl what's the difference :D
23:49 Exio lol
23:50 arsdragonfly kahrl :It'll be a big mod then :D >20MiB
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23:55 bcnjr5 â—”_â—”
23:56 jordan4ibanez What shaders are there?

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