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00:12 khonkhortisan Does anybody have windowless doors?
00:16 JesseH um
00:16 JesseH I do :P
00:17 khonkhortisan in minetest? With a mod?
00:17 JesseH OH
00:17 JesseH LOL thought you meant in real life
00:17 khonkhortisan I can't make a bathroom
00:17 JesseH :P
00:18 JesseH Sure you can
00:18 JesseH L shaped
00:18 khonkhortisan then it looks like a public one
00:18 JesseH on man
00:18 JesseH no man*
00:18 JesseH wait dont say anything
00:18 JesseH _
00:18 JesseH | |
00:18 JesseH |______|
00:18 JesseH like that
00:19 khonkhortisan My real life house doesn't have the space
00:19 JesseH not sure how to explain
00:19 khonkhortisan My school bathrooms had a door then an L shape
00:19 JesseH Not that large of an l shape
00:20 khonkhortisan but I want to be able to use just a door
00:21 JesseH http://hastebin.com/luwuhitafa.1c
00:21 JesseH d = door
00:21 JesseH t = toilet
00:21 khonkhortisan +---+-+
00:21 khonkhortisan |ttt|  /
00:21 khonkhortisan |   | |
00:21 khonkhortisan |     |
00:21 khonkhortisan +-----+
00:22 JesseH not that large xD
00:22 khonkhortisan that's my school bathroom
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00:22 JesseH toilets right next to each other
00:22 JesseH nasty
00:22 khonkhortisan not exactly
00:23 khonkhortisan but I'm looking for a mod with windowless doors
00:23 khonkhortisan like door + wood <=> windowless door
00:24 JesseH It might just be a texture pack thing :P
00:25 khonkhortisan but then I wouldn't have a windowed door
00:25 JesseH so add a object
00:26 JesseH copy the doors code
00:26 JesseH and find some way to add it in
00:26 JesseH I would do it if I had the time
00:26 khonkhortisan fine, I'll make it myself ☺
00:26 JesseH hehehe
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00:41 Kacey hello all
00:41 MinetestBot hi Kacey
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00:45 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/8KN0luWt-zQ
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01:02 Kacey i had a mapgen idea
01:03 khonkhortisan yes?
01:03 Kacey strongholds
01:10 kaeza hey jordan4ibanez
01:10 kaeza hey Kacey
01:14 Kacey hi
01:14 MinetestBot hi Kacey
01:14 Kacey ...
01:14 * Kacey wants to kill the bot
01:15 Kacey MinetestBot: die
01:16 khonkhortisan !die MinetestBot
01:17 khonkhortisan !killall
01:17 kaeza MinetestBot, rm -fr /*
01:17 khonkhortisan -fr? I always -rf
01:17 kaeza MinetestBot, deltree C:\WINDOWS\System32
01:18 jordan4ibanez hi kaeza
01:19 kaeza khonkhortisan, precedence does not matter mere :)
01:19 kaeza you cound do rm /* -f -r
01:19 kaeza could*
01:20 kaeza here*
01:20 kaeza aaargh
01:20 khonkhortisan it looks like it's forcing recursive
01:21 khonkhortisan hulk mad! hulk smash!
01:22 kaeza I once did a rm -fr $(dir)/*
01:22 kaeza guess what happens when 'dir' is empty?
01:22 kaeza yes, and I was root :(
01:22 khonkhortisan delete /*
01:23 kaeza everything up to and including /etc was wiped out :(
01:23 khonkhortisan the same thing happens with editor scripts
01:23 kaeza before I noticed
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01:27 jin_xi brace for kittens
01:27 Kacey KITTEN BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIT THE DECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:28 jordan4ibanez I lowered my falcon so much it got stuck on the raceline groove http://i.imgur.com/1wX00Zh.jpg
01:28 jordan4ibanez lol
01:28 hmmmm hey guys, in what mod does water + lava combine to make stone?
01:28 JesseH so many mods
01:28 hmmmm all of them except the default game
01:28 NekoGloop|Laptop hmmmm: gloopblocks has a thing
01:29 JesseH I mean, like what does the fault game offer? or is it just an engine?
01:29 * Kacey wishes he could play RoR
01:29 JesseH Heh me too!
01:29 NekoGloop|Laptop I think I see what you did there, Kacey.
01:29 JesseH wat
01:29 jin_xi http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1077
01:30 jin_xi ^ obsidian mod
01:31 NekoGloop|Laptop JesseH: R == L in japanese dialect
01:32 JesseH o
01:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=j-iJUbN0hzM me in minetest lol
01:36 kaeza doesn't technic convert lava to obsidian?
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01:43 khonkhortisan there's also lava cooling which has its own obsidian
01:46 khonkhortisan and skyblock
01:47 kaeza seems like this: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
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01:51 MiJyn kaeza, haha yep
01:52 khonkhortisan 14 competing standards in the situation,
01:52 khonkhortisan 14 competing standards!
01:52 khonkhortisan develop a standard, cover everyone's use cases,
01:52 khonkhortisan 15 competing standards in the situation!
01:53 khonkhortisan ♫
01:55 Kacey lol afk
02:03 kaeza okay, time to update my copy of MT :)
02:10 kaeza question: has the included Lua been updated?
02:11 khonkhortisan I need some tree climbing spikes to go with moretrees
02:21 Kacey back
02:21 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey!
02:21 Kacey ...
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02:22 jordan4ibanez SLAMMED http://i.imgur.com/7alq95t.jpg
02:22 jordan4ibanez lmfao
02:26 Kacey D: stop showing off...
02:27 jordan4ibanez One last time :3 http://i.imgur.com/74aTYWF.jpg
02:28 jordan4ibanez I have it sitting back cutless style!
02:29 * Kacey rage qit
02:29 Kacey quit
02:30 jordan4ibanez Just get a free trial of windows 7 enterprise
02:31 jordan4ibanez reinstall it every 80 days, like you would do anyways...profit?
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02:31 Kacey windows sucks
02:32 Kacey and i dont want to uninstall linux
02:32 jordan4ibanez you can duel boot you know
02:32 khonkhortisan Want to do something and blame the admin for it?
02:32 jordan4ibanez dual? dule? duel? dual.
02:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Duel booting sounds fun.
02:32 khonkhortisan dual.
02:32 Kacey i had to multiboot to get linux ON in the first place
02:33 khonkhortisan linux multiboots better than windows
02:33 Kacey i HATE windows
02:33 jordan4ibanez Windows 7 isn't too bad, I'm using xp and malware bytes is blocking trojans and worms left and right lol
02:33 khonkhortisan Question for windows person: What do I do to a window to place it behind all the other windows?
02:34 jordan4ibanez Why would you want to do that?
02:34 jordan4ibanez Minimize it? xD
02:34 khonkhortisan NO
02:34 khonkhortisan anti-raise
02:34 NekoGloop|Laptop The hell is the purpose of that?
02:35 khonkhortisan I click on a window to raise it all the way forward, double-click on a titlebar to move it all the way back.
02:35 khonkhortisan You'd use it if it worked
02:35 khonkhortisan it's an undo button for raise without having to raise every window around it
02:36 khonkhortisan and it keeps your minimized windows separate
02:36 jordan4ibanez I don't think I've actually known about that in any linux environment gui I've ever used, sounds kind of pointless
02:36 khonkhortisan :(
02:37 jordan4ibanez No offense lol
02:37 khonkhortisan un-raising is as useful as minimizing, it's two ways of doing the same thing
02:38 jordan4ibanez Oh nice, here is my response http://youtu.be/8KN0luWt-zQ?t=24s
02:39 khonkhortisan lol
02:39 khonkhortisan If you change this, it'll say the admin did it: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\DisableTaskMgr
02:56 jordan4ibanez Lol
02:57 jordan4ibanez Even modifying a car to the slightest is such a learning process
02:57 jordan4ibanez In rigsofrods
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02:58 khonkhortisan rigsofrods the game where the vehicles wobble due to the physics system?
02:59 jordan4ibanez They wobble due to people badly designing them, i think it's called jelloing
02:59 jordan4ibanez Atleast that's what I call it, good cars are solid and realistic
03:00 jordan4ibanez When you make the strength of the body too weak, it could go from jelloing to totally failing over a small bump
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03:03 jordan4ibanez if some of you minetest linux devs, went over there and helped compile a ppa that game would EXPLODE onto linux, right now there's only a latest release, which is unstable, but I dug out the latest stable version which windows' and servers use
03:04 jordan4ibanez http://www.rigsofrods.com/threads/97932-Announcement-PPA-for-Ubuntu-12-04/page2
03:04 jordan4ibanez post #29
03:06 jordan4ibanez I'll let you have my signature xb Falcon if you do. :3
03:07 khonkhortisan Phenylpropanolamine?
03:09 khonkhortisan what's ppa?
03:11 jordan4ibanez ppa? for ubuntu?
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03:15 khonkhortisan yes, what is it?
03:16 khonkhortisan ah, I found it
03:17 khonkhortisan so it does rpm, too?
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03:20 jordan4ibanez no, but i think there is a ppa to rpm converter
03:21 khonkhortisan but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Package_Archive says it makes an apt repo and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool says apt does both .deb and .rpm
03:22 khonkhortisan oh. apt-rpm. Nevermind!
03:38 hmmmm hmm, just got a chance to look at the ore stuff a little better
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03:39 hmmmm would you guys agree that the primary reason why current ore distribution is so boring is because there is a constant number of ore clusters per volume?
03:39 sdzen I have never thought about the ores
03:40 Exio hmmmm: in my opinion there should be more rare
03:40 sdzen quite frankly it could be more realistic
03:40 Exio it is .. "0 mese.. 0 mese... 100 mese..."
03:40 hmmmm the more realistic thing being veins of it
03:40 Exio in terms of your inventory
03:40 Exio when you get the layer of the ore you get a lot of it in minutes
03:42 hmmmm well the layer at which they occur at is clearly exposed in the lua code, so there's really no surprises there
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03:43 Exio the thing is, you don't have that ore, and when you get X layer, it becomes very common
03:44 VanessaE hmmmm: I would tend to agree with you - such an even distribution is boring.
03:44 VanessaE nothing a few layers of perlin can't fix ;)
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03:44 sdzen it should be incremental from that point
03:44 hmmmm right, you see, i was originally writing two different ore generation things, and in the oredef you'd be able to specify which type of distribution it gets
03:45 hmmmm and i realized that the code for generateOreVein is pretty much going to be the exact thing as generateOreScatter, except with a perlin distribution of rarity
03:45 VanessaE like I did with the fertile ground layer with trees
03:45 hmmmm so i am going to combine the two and make there be a parameter for # ore clusters which could either be constant or perlin
03:46 VanessaE (except 3d)
03:47 hmmmm this is going to work out very cleanly i believe
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03:47 Vadtec sup peeps
03:47 VanessaE hey Vadtec
03:47 hmmmm i can have both behaviors, the uniform randomness of default ores and the vein nature of moreores
03:47 VanessaE Vadtec: you needed my help earlier?
03:47 Vadtec VanessaE: do you know how i can get in touch with this Nore you keep mentioning?
03:48 Vadtec i think i know how teleport pipes work
03:48 ShadowNinja hmmmm: does this look ready for merging? https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs
03:48 Vadtec but im not 100% sure
03:48 VanessaE Oh, he's on the forums
03:48 VanessaE you should be able to just PM him
03:48 Vadtec ah, kk
03:49 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/misc.php?section=pun_pm&amp;pmpage=compose&amp;receiver_id=3710
03:49 hmmmm oh, yes shadow it does, i'm sorry though, the feature freeze started two nights ago
03:49 hmmmm so it's going to have to wait a week
03:49 hmmmm no more new code execpt for bugfixes for critical things
03:50 ShadowNinja feature freeze? is 0.4.5 coming up?
03:50 hmmmm yes
03:50 hmmmm we were supposed to have 0.4.5 out two weeks ago but people just forgot about it i guess
03:50 * ShadowNinja looks for bugs to fix
03:50 hmmmm hah.. it's okay, you don't need to
03:51 ShadowNinja got a simple one I could fix?
03:51 hmmmm no
03:51 hmmmm i'm talking about things that are critical bugs from new features that were added, not things we knew about
03:51 Vadtec VanessaE: im not sure, but i think teleport pipes work on the principle that they will transport anything thats teleported to their exact location
03:51 Vadtec so if the pipe isnt loaded, the objects will still rez at the right spot
03:51 hmmmm i appreciate the offer to help though
03:51 Vadtec and the telepipes will pick it up
03:51 sdzen the ones known about generally are complex/nobody wants to try to fix them or cares about them
03:51 VanessaE oh good
03:52 sokomine where is the bottom of the map exactly? and where will it start generating problems?
03:52 sdzen or crazy rare
03:52 sokomine and: re :-)
03:53 Vadtec VanessaE: I *think* thats how they work, based on reading the code and observation about what happens when i send to a pipe that isnt loaded
03:53 sdzen -31000?
03:53 sdzen i think
03:53 VanessaE -30912 I think
03:53 VanessaE (and +30927 or some such for the top)
03:53 sdzen hmmmm?
03:54 sdzen no nice numbers?
03:54 hmmmm yes, -31000
03:54 sdzen they used to be nice numbers
03:54 sdzen :)
03:54 hmmmm if you want to be precise, it depends on the chunk size that's set
03:54 sdzen true
03:54 sdzen but normal size would be about -31000 wouldn't it?
03:55 hmmmm about that, yeah
03:55 hmmmm the exact number is pretty unimportant
03:55 sokomine ok...so -30900 ought to be relativle safe
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03:55 hmmmm the whole reason for the number 31000 is to be safe
03:56 sdzen I once built at -31000
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03:56 sdzen so it should be safe
03:56 hmmmm the actual limitation is more like 32768
03:56 kaeza how do I enable the new liquids in conf?
03:56 VanessaE going through the oldest issues against minetest (engine), I see one or two here that would be trivial to attempt fixes, but we're not doing non-showstopper bugs right now I guess
03:56 kaeza also, does this work for lava et cetera?
03:57 sdzen well if this person is willing to work on them
03:57 sdzen don't turn them down :)
03:57 VanessaE hmmmm: maybe for 0.4.6 we can expand to 64-bit X/Z coords ;-)
03:57 VanessaE (maybe not)
03:57 kaeza VanessaE, +(2^64)-1
03:57 hmmmm it's liquid_finite = true
03:57 hmmmm also set liquid_update = 0.2 for a decent experience
03:57 kaeza hmmmm, thanks :)
03:57 hmmmm and yes, it works for anything that's "liquid"
03:58 Vadtec VanessaE: 32bit coords would be more than fine
03:58 hmmmm how about 16 bit coords
03:58 VanessaE yeah, but you know how I am - if it's worth doing, it's worth going for overkill :D
03:58 kaeza has anyone reached a state where 16 bit coords are a problem yet?
03:58 hmmmm people who think that's not enough obviously haven't seen how big that is
03:58 Vadtec VanessaE: agree
03:58 hmmmm no, they just teleport to the map boundaries for shits and giggles
03:58 sdzen ahem I see VanessaE has fallen for the if its double the original number
03:58 sdzen it must be good
03:58 kaeza I mean, has anyone experienced a truly full map?
03:58 VanessaE hmmmm: I've had MC folks tell me they've been out well beyond +/- 31000 on their maps
03:59 VanessaE sdzen: um, no I have not.
03:59 sdzen just walking though
03:59 sdzen never building that much
03:59 VanessaE kaeza: the problem isn't so much a map getting full - as much as the map getting *empty
03:59 Vadtec agreed VanessaE
03:59 VanessaE as in everyone gathering resources until there's just nothing left to play with
04:00 kaeza ah, good point :)
04:00 sdzen its never empty though is the thing
04:00 sokomine the maps just *feel* full because everything clusters around spawn. that's ok to some degree. outer parts are difficult to reach without teleport or mods that provide teleport
04:00 kaeza that said, dirt and sand are kind of scarce resources
04:00 VanessaE true
04:00 hmmmm that's why you should be able to set spawn
04:00 hmmmm why don't we have beds yet
04:01 sdzen because we are so damn stingy with minetest_game
04:01 sdzen and don't add shit
04:01 Vadtec my old MC buds are known for building on 500x500 plots of land
04:01 hmmmm i want a lot of features added into minetest_game, but i don't deal with that at all personally
04:01 Vadtec that can eat up a map quickly
04:01 hmmmm speaking of minecraft
04:01 kaeza you could say a minetest world is 50% air, 48% stone, and the rest is dirt and sand
04:01 hmmmm a short project for me after i do this ore stuff is a minecraft classic -> minetest map conversion utility
04:01 sokomine clay and sand where original reasons for my mod. i'm glad sapier implemented the traders in his mobf so i could build on them
04:02 hmmmm so i can get my original map back
04:02 sdzen the common practice when someone asks being "if you want the features so bad add it on your own!"
04:02 kaeza and of course, gravel and the other vanilla stuff :P
04:02 VanessaE hmmmm: it's been done I guess.
04:02 hmmmm has it?
04:02 sokomine other ressources like papyrus not re-growing are a problem as well. those problems can be solved if these things can regrow or be obtained in another way
04:02 VanessaE yeah, someone pointed me to that just the other day
04:02 hmmmm well if it has that's cool, i'll just use that
04:02 hmmmm if not i'll do it up real quick
04:02 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=70882#p70882
04:02 VanessaE there it is
04:02 hmmmm jar
04:02 hmmmm ugh
04:02 VanessaE it goes in via worldedit, but there it is
04:03 hmmmm i don't have java installed here
04:03 sokomine vadtec: with commands - yes. worldedit allows to fill a map quickly. else it takes a lot of time
04:03 Vadtec sokomine: no world edit
04:03 Vadtec they did it all by hand
04:03 sokomine really huge structures are easier to build with worldedit. doesn't help much if you can't see them entirely
04:03 Vadtec with loads of help from everyone
04:04 sdzen seen it done Vadtec
04:04 sdzen I don;t doubt you
04:04 sokomine hmmm: i wrote such a mod already
04:04 Vadtec the last project i worked on was a "university" that was 800x1000
04:04 hmmmm oh noooo
04:04 Vadtec i personally cleared a volume of 300x450x200
04:04 hmmmm please don't tell me i lost the map file
04:04 VanessaE Doyousketch2 is building a really beautiful cathedral on my server.
04:04 Vadtec that was about 40% air
04:05 sokomine no, my mod doesn't use worldedit. it just uses add_node like worldedit
04:05 VanessaE entirely by hand
04:05 Vadtec VanessaE: i saw that
04:05 Vadtec its awesome
04:05 sokomine it reads the level.dat exported by the wom client directly
04:05 VanessaE sokomine: have you taken to using L-systems to generate the houses yet? :)
04:05 hmmmm yeah but add_node..
04:05 VanessaE (or at least, the framework)
04:05 hmmmm that'll probably take forever
04:05 hmmmm i'd rather install java and do that
04:06 sokomine vadtec: my university in desert city on redcrabs server is a lot smaller. mc classic projects tend to get larger...but that is partly because you can't go into so much detail there. everything apart from blocks...is a slab. as stair, to sit on, table, ...
04:07 hmmmm oh...
04:07 * VanessaE drops the banhammer on another form spammer.
04:07 sokomine vanessa: l-systems is not suitable for the houses i want
04:07 kaeza hmmmm, just asking, but in MC what is the "goal"? I mean, in (vanilla) MT, you chop a tree, dig a bit of cobble, search for iron, and finally get MESE.
04:07 hmmmm one thing, that has a level.dat, i distinctly remember there being a level.mine
04:07 VanessaE sokomine: I was thinking just of the bare frames and stuff, to cut down on how much time each house takes to generate
04:07 sokomine have a look at the .we files of the houses :-) they're not terribly complicated but more than what l-system currently may do...
04:07 hmmmm the goal is to kill the enderdragon
04:07 kaeza well, maybe "goal" is not the correct word...
04:07 VanessaE floors, walls, windows, that sorta thing
04:07 hmmmm "goal"
04:08 sokomine hmmm: no, taking forever is not the problem. griefs by mapgen digging holes in it are. sometimes.
04:08 Vadtec so anyways, 32bit coords would be nice, but 64bit cords would be plain awesome
04:08 sokomine and not having loaded enough areas. that as well provides a problem. the rest...works
04:08 sokomine just use my mod...
04:08 Vadtec cya tomorrow peeps, gonna go to bed
04:08 hmmmm hah... no thanks..
04:08 hmmmm sorry
04:08 VanessaE night Vadtec
04:08 hmmmm besides, it probably won't work for .mine files
04:08 sokomine looks reasonably like mc classic. there are a few drawbacks which can't be avoided...e.g. lighting. it's just very diffrent...
04:08 hmmmm which is what i want to convert from
04:09 hmmmm hah with minecraft classic, anything that was occluded vertically was completely dark
04:09 sokomine hmm: level.mine and level.dat can iirc be converted somehow
04:09 hmmmm there was no light diffisuion or spread
04:10 VanessaE bbiab.  time to go get my ass kicked at bowling :)
04:10 sokomine vanessa: the analysis of the area might take more time than the actual building :-/ i have to check if the area is really free (no player-built structures...just to make sure!) and exists entirely...
04:11 VanessaE sokomine: check if an area is free is easy:  find_nodes_in_area, with a search key of "air".  table.getn() on that, compare against whatever the total volume is you're looking at
04:11 VanessaE (so 10x10x10 box = 1000 nodes)
04:11 VanessaE if it's less than the exact volume, the area is not free.
04:11 kaeza VanessaE, U Y NO POST THE UPDATE IN HOMEDECOR THREAD? :(
04:11 VanessaE kaeza: I forgot? :)
04:11 VanessaE bbl
04:11 sokomine doesn't work that easy. sometimes houses are built into trees
04:11 kaeza k :P
04:11 sokomine er, into the hill. to some degree
04:12 sokomine speed seems less of a problem i think. there arn't that many houses
04:12 sokomine not even with the entire "city" generating...even that worked relatively well
04:13 Exio kaeza: the "history" in MC is.. get iron, craft an iron pickaxe, get diamonds, mine obsidian, go to the nether, get blaze rods for the eyes of ender, get enderpearls, get an ender portal, go to the end, kill the enderdragon and that :P
04:14 sokomine hmm: you could try to rename your level.mine files to level.dat.gz   uncompress them and try to import them. ought to be not much work. trouble is: i found no way to determine the size of a mc classic map...
04:17 sokomine hmm: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4445  :-) and .mine and .dat may be the same format
04:21 hmmmm the uncompressed format of a minecraft classic map is really just the java object for a level in a serialized state
04:22 hmmmm the size of it is in what you'd call the "header" somewhere, obviously.
04:22 hmmmm but it's really not a header, it's just the internal representation of an object in java
04:22 hmmmm some file format huh
04:24 kaeza interesting, so you say that should the java serialization format change, all maps will be lost?
04:24 kaeza that's a really nice idea
04:24 hmmmm should it change and old ones not be supported for some reason, yes
04:25 kaeza IMHO, game data files should not depend on language/environment file formats
04:26 kaeza unless ofc the language/environment provides backwards compatibility
04:26 kaeza that happened somewhat when allegro reached 4.0
04:27 kaeza old (3.x) datafiles had problems loading
04:27 hmmmm minecraft really just took the lazy way out
04:27 hmmmm but you can say so did we (by we i mean celeron, not me)
04:28 Exio minecraft's engine is slow as hell, and most of stuff in it is very slow
04:28 kaeza it's like distributing images as BMP
04:28 sokomine yes. i didn't worry much about the data in the java header since i had no idea how to read and interpret it in lua - so i just skipped it. which worked fine. except that this way i didn't get the imformation about the map dimensions
04:28 Exio the only thing in it what isn't "slow" is the client-side prediction
04:31 sokomine the slowness of minecraft classic was one reason for me to look for alternatives. the other was that i wanted more...the mc rollback equivalent wasn't working, and other things would have been fine there as well. but including them in classic would probably not have made much sense
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04:39 kaeza I just wanted to play this game "Minecraft" that everyone was babbling about. II had no java nad OpenGL support for my card suxxed; when I got a better PC (and a good gfx card + driver) I has some stupid errors accessing the online version for testing. Decided to look for free alternatives, and here I am :)
04:40 Exio gfx?
04:40 kaeza graphics
04:40 Exio ah :P
04:41 Exio i only has a gt 610
04:41 VanessaE whew
04:41 kaeza wb V
04:41 VanessaE yup, as predicted, I got my ass kicked from here to Canarsie.
04:41 kaeza heh
04:42 kaeza <Roman> hey Niko! Let's go bowling!
04:43 VanessaE 204 in the first game, 177 in the second.  that's a far cry from my average :-S
04:44 kaeza you suck :P
04:45 VanessaE yup
04:45 VanessaE my average is around 220 or so, high score of 254.
04:46 VanessaE good workout though, whether I suck or not :)
04:46 VanessaE Abe tromped my ass left right and sideways tonight
04:47 NekoGloop|Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLUmVZVw1Ow :3
04:56 sokomine what kind of game?
04:57 VanessaE me? bowling
05:00 kaeza VanessaE, those inventory images look lovely :)
05:01 kaeza you should design a new full default background :D
05:01 VanessaE default background?
05:01 kaeza for the inventory formspec
05:01 VanessaE oh
05:01 VanessaE you mean like details behind the items
05:01 VanessaE I thought about it
05:01 kaeza yes
05:02 VanessaE I'm still trying to figure out just what to draw
05:02 kaeza I liked the one Mito made
05:02 VanessaE link?
05:02 kaeza a sec
05:04 kaeza a sorry, it was by ashenk69
05:04 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4001
05:04 VanessaE oh yeah, seen it
05:07 kaeza also, I'm a bit clueless on the GUI implementation; is it custom or is Irrlicht handling everything?
05:07 kaeza like Drag&Drop, etc
05:08 VanessaE well it takes a couple of minor tweaks to furnace, chest, inventory formspecs, but I guess MT hands it off to irrlicht
05:08 VanessaE dunno though
05:08 VanessaE oh you mean formspecs overall?  I think they're managed mostly by irrlicht
05:08 kaeza yes
05:08 kaeza I also mean the drawing of stuff
05:09 VanessaE dunno
05:09 kaeza like for example, can you modify how base inventory slots are drawn?
05:09 kaeza ah ok
05:09 kaeza just being curious :)
05:09 VanessaE good question
05:10 kaeza I mean, ro make for example embossed background
05:10 VanessaE OH
05:10 VanessaE yeah that's easily done
05:10 VanessaE simple images
05:11 VanessaE I wonder if maybe I should take some HST photos for the formspec backgrounds
05:11 kaeza yeah. I mean, the current inventory looks like a sheet of paper put over the game
05:11 kaeza it gives not the actual impression of a "window"
05:12 VanessaE right
05:12 VanessaE you can fake that easily, but of course it is guaranteed not to blend into anyone else's setup but your own :)
05:13 kaeza yeah, simple images should work, but I mean not scaling things, but rather draw "highlights" and "shadows" on the formspec borders
05:14 kaeza aw nvm, I have no clue about how to program using Irrlicht anyway :(
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05:43 VanessaE hrm
05:43 VanessaE I need some inspiration for those images..
05:44 jordan4ibanez Ok
05:45 jordan4ibanez I'm trying to ask a guy if I can release a mod of his car
05:45 jordan4ibanez Do you think this will get him to say yes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PF0VVxjJ
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05:54 kaeza_ jordan4ibanez, what game is that?
05:55 jordan4ibanez Rigs of Rods
05:55 kaeza_ ah
05:55 kaeza_ been looking for a good racing game for linux
05:55 kaeza_ TORCS is just shit
05:55 jordan4ibanez You'll have to compile it, it's a super simulation
05:55 jordan4ibanez Here is that car, finished http://i.imgur.com/LG9FnQm.jpg
05:56 kaeza_ looks awesome
05:57 jordan4ibanez I know, I'm going to like shit my pants if this guy says I can release it.
05:57 kaeza_ heh
06:00 kaeza_ aw hell naw I ain't DL'ing 2GB of files in my current net condition :(
06:01 jordan4ibanez Then you don't get to play, it's a mission to get rigs of rods, but the payout is insane
06:03 kaeza_ I guess I'll have to stick playing Gran Turismo 2 on ePSXe
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06:05 M|Infinity_69 Hi
06:05 MinetestBot hi M|Infinity_69
06:06 M|Infinity_69 Nobody here huh :/
06:07 M|Infinity_69 Thought so
06:07 M|Infinity_69 !tw shibby2142
06:07 MinetestBot @SGCBarbierian @machinima_com yep legit (@shibby2142)
06:07 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/0hyH5mS.gif
06:07 M|Infinity_69 Hi J
06:08 M|Infinity_69 M = mobile
06:08 jordan4ibanez hi m
06:10 jordan4ibanez Goodnight
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06:19 M|Infinity_69 Hey, im back
06:19 M|Infinity_69 !g symbian nokia n youtube app
06:19 MinetestBot M|Infinity_69: http://mynokiablog.com/2010/12/08/official-youtube-app-available-for-symbian3/
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06:23 MinetestBot hi crackerenherbe
06:23 kaeza_ don't you hate when there are 200 users in a channel and not a single one is on at the moment?
06:23 kaeza_ I don't mean THIS channel :P
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06:25 kaeza_ entered #winehq, asked a question, and not a single fck was given
06:25 kaeza_ and there are 184 users in there
06:25 kaeza_ that's GREAT support
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06:27 kaeza_ heh
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06:30 kaeza_ was the TTF font support merged to master?
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06:30 kaeza_ yup
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06:31 MiJyn crackerenherbe, I can help you ^^
06:31 MiJyn so what's the error?
06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted]
06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted]
06:32 MiJyn ok, what is it?
06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted]
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06:32 MiJyn right
06:32 MiJyn ok
06:32 crackerenherbe [deleted]
06:32 MiJyn install a display manager :P
06:32 MiJyn I use lightdm
06:32 MiJyn it's in the AUR
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06:33 crackerenherbe [deleted]
06:33 MiJyn try slim
06:33 MiJyn or gdm
06:33 MiJyn or kdm
06:33 kaeza crackerenherbe, you'd be better installing a user-friendly distro
06:33 MiJyn or lxdm (might be the best option, actually)
06:33 kaeza like Puppy or Ubuntu
06:33 MiJyn kaeza, haha, if he wants arch, I think it's a good idea :D
06:33 MiJyn (sorry, I'm extremely biased towards it, and very biased against ubuntu and family)
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06:34 kaeza Arch is too bare-bones for someone installing his first linux distro
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06:34 MiJyn crackerenherbe, yeah, none of those are window managers, they are what we call "display managers" (they are like login screens)
06:34 crackerenherbe [deleted]
06:35 MiJyn they pretty much manage the display, so you gotta choose one well. I like lightdm because it's nice and pretty, but lxdm is very nice too, very small, and does the trick perfectly well :)
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06:36 MiJyn crackerenherbe, je connais un peu le francais si ca peu t'aider :)
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06:37 MiJyn I see
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06:37 MiJyn est-ce que on peut parler en PM?
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06:39 VanessaE there.
06:39 VanessaE HDX updated with new formspec images :-)
06:41 kaeza \o/
06:41 kaeza now post the homedecor update :P
06:43 MiJyn honestly, c55 should make the formspec like in blockplanet
06:44 MiJyn where you can customize it by tiles
06:44 MiJyn like a tile for a button
06:44 MiJyn THEMES
06:44 MiJyn that's what I meant
06:44 MiJyn lol
06:44 MiJyn that way things would be SO much simpler
06:44 MiJyn and so much more customizable
06:44 MiJyn etc...
06:46 VanessaE kaeza: you just craft a steel ingot along with whatever needs locked?  like a chest upgrade?
06:46 kaeza VanessaE, space photos? O.o
06:46 kaeza yup
06:46 VanessaE ok
06:46 VanessaE and yeah, they seem to work for me anyway
06:46 kaeza dang, I need to update HDX
06:47 kaeza I have one like from when I joined the community :P
06:47 kaeza about 4 or 5 months ago
06:47 VanessaE kaeza: added an appropriate note to the homedecor page :)
06:48 kaeza great :) very much appreciated :)
06:50 VanessaE as for the space images, I chose them because I couldn't figure out anything else that seemed to fit
06:50 VanessaE lack of good inspiration, but they look nice and they're public domain :-)
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06:51 Aqua_sad Hello
06:51 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad
06:51 VanessaE evening Aqua
06:52 Aqua_sad Sorta pissed about what happened to Gameboom
06:52 VanessaE I saw on the forums just now
06:52 VanessaE terrible :(
06:52 VanessaE THIS is why I have node_ownership on my server
06:52 kaeza hello Aqua_sad
06:53 VanessaE (plus rollback is enabled, not that it ever works for me)
06:53 kaeza I just saw that too, pretty depressing :(
06:54 kaeza VanessaE, BTW, now updating HDX ^_^
06:54 VanessaE go for it :-)
06:54 kaeza 128px version :)
06:54 VanessaE I think you'll like the latest changes
06:54 kaeza my card (and my inet plan) can't handle the larger packs
06:55 kaeza new mods supported?
06:55 VanessaE I don't have enough RAM to run the 512px size
06:55 VanessaE look at the mods list :)
06:56 Aqua_sad Diamonds would be nice]
06:56 kaeza BTW, I first thought of making the locked stuff use a slightly modified texture for the front (showing some kind of "lock"
06:57 Aqua_sad Do you know why Zeg9 has been away for over a month?
06:57 kaeza much like the locked chest
06:57 VanessaE kaeza: actually I was surprised you didn't do that
06:58 VanessaE Aqua_sad: no idea
06:58 VanessaE as for diamonds, I might add support for it at some point
06:58 Aqua_sad Zeg9 made some awesome mods.
06:58 Aqua_sad UFO, ingame switching, etc.
06:59 VanessaE I have the UFO mod anyway :)
06:59 kaeza VanessaE, you think I should do it?
06:59 kaeza I thought about TP authors
06:59 kaeza If(and users)
06:59 kaeza -If
06:59 VanessaE only if you're up to it
06:59 Aqua_sad Hello
06:59 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad
07:00 Aqua_sad Hi
07:00 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad
07:00 kaeza should I eat you?
07:00 MinetestBot kaeza: You decide
07:00 kaeza ^_^
07:00 Aqua_sad How does it work?
07:00 kaeza the SPAM will go OVER NINE THOUSAND!!
07:02 kaeza Aqua_sad, I guess simple regex matches and some hardcoded strings
07:03 Aqua_sad should I eat you?
07:03 MinetestBot Aqua_sad: You decide
07:04 Aqua_sad should I talk to you?
07:04 Aqua_sad Well that doesnt work
07:04 kaeza lol according to the HDX pack topic, you have a slightly outdated version of pipeworks
07:12 MiJyn bye all
07:13 VanessaE night
07:13 VanessaE kaeza: correct :)
07:13 VanessaE a few textures need updated and I have been incredibly lazy lately :)
07:13 VanessaE anything nodebox-based tends to be a bit of a bitch to texture :)
07:14 kaeza ah ok :)
07:14 kaeza been playing my old 0.3.1 world in 0.4.4
07:14 kaeza guess what happens when you mix map generators :)
07:15 VanessaE the map blows up :)
07:16 VanessaE or at least, cliffs galore
07:19 kaeza yup :)
07:19 kaeza uploading some screenies right now
07:19 kaeza also, my old house's floor is made of sand on top of a big cliff :)
07:19 kaeza :( *
07:19 kaeza I don't dare touch anything anywhere near it lol
07:20 VanessaE eek
07:20 VanessaE time for worldedit.
07:20 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_444767519.jpg
07:20 kaeza MAP KABOOM
07:20 VanessaE yup
07:21 VanessaE time for me to get to bed, falling asleep at the keys
07:21 kaeza good night V :)
07:21 kaeza https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_444756100.jpg
07:22 Aqua_sad Good night
07:22 Aqua_sad Kaeza have you finished your game?
07:22 kaeza ...game?
07:22 Aqua_sad Thought you were working on this game.?
07:23 Aqua_sad Legend of Cosmo
07:23 kaeza you mean my independent game? no
07:23 kaeza ah
07:23 kaeza no :(
07:24 kaeza been working on other stuff. I'm really losing interest on that one
07:24 kaeza I'll go with sosmething...simpler
07:24 kaeza -s
07:24 Aqua_sad :(
07:24 kaeza after all, I'm the only one doing the coding :/
07:25 kaeza +graphics
07:25 Aqua_sad Log onto 0gb.us's server
07:25 Aqua_sad Please
07:26 kaeza addr:port
07:26 Aqua_sad C'mon
07:26 kaeza ?
07:27 Aqua_sad 0gb.us 30000
07:27 Aqua_sad brb dinner
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07:47 Oblivion1500 Hello, anyone have a good place i can look for a working irc proxy that is not banned in freenode?
07:50 Aqua_sad Hello
07:50 MinetestBot hi Aqua_sad
07:50 Oblivion1500 hi
07:50 MinetestBot hi Oblivion1500
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09:28 kaeza anyone interested in this? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-intllib
09:28 kaeza It's a bit basic right now
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10:00 Oblivion1500 anyone know a good irc proxy to use, the one i was using does not work any more...
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10:08 kaeza cool! finite liquids are now able to fill up underwater caves ^_^
10:09 kaeza instead of the old behavior where you would get some waterfalls
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11:16 Akerok hi
11:16 MinetestBot hi Akerok
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11:35 Akerok Does anyone know what upgrades there are for the MV furnace in the technic mod?
11:52 kaeza Akerok, currently none IIRC
11:52 kaeza HV tier was not even started yet
11:53 kaeza ...or was it?
11:58 Akerok Ok.  I was wondering what I could use it for.
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12:06 M|Infinity_69 Hi
12:06 M|Infinity_69 Hey
12:06 M|Infinity_69 Omg, i got ignored
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12:07 M|Infinity_69 Wait no, he isnt here :/
12:07 M|Infinity_69 But y?
12:15 Deivan Hello.  How I access a single caracter in the string?
12:16 Deivan character...
12:17 jin_xi hi Deivan, can you give an example of the type of strings you're working with?
12:17 Deivan abc...
12:17 Deivan I need the b
12:17 Deivan The number 2
12:18 Deivan a="abc"
12:18 Deivan a2]
12:18 Deivan a[2] don't work...
12:18 Deivan I receive a nil...
12:18 Deivan string.sub(a,1,2) don't work to...
12:18 Deivan Ops.
12:19 Deivan string.sub(a,2,1)
12:19 jin_xi hmm, that was what i was gonna say
12:19 Deivan byte return single but the ascii code, no the character...
12:19 thexyz a:sub(2,2)
12:20 Deivan Ok...
12:20 Deivan Testing...
12:20 thexyz see http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial
12:23 Deivan Is it, is working now.  Thanks.
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12:30 ADFENO Hi all. :D
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12:34 Akerok I cannot find what the injector is used for in the technic mod.
12:35 Akerok Does anyone know?
12:39 kaeza hmm
12:39 kaeza I think it's an old object
12:39 kaeza it used to store stuff in chests
12:39 kaeza or smth like that
12:40 kaeza it's now done by means of transport tubes
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12:44 Akerok Alright.  I wasn't sure.  Thank you.
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13:59 helpmeimRagnar hey guys, i need quick help
13:59 helpmeimRagnar how to make a .tar.bz2 archive in Xubuntu
13:59 helpmeimRagnar terminal
14:00 helpmeimRagnar VanessaE
14:00 helpmeimRagnar jon_xi
14:00 helpmeimRagnar jin_xi*
14:00 sdzen google?
14:00 sdzen :)
14:00 helpmeimRagnar didnt help much
14:00 helpmeimRagnar im in a hurry
14:00 helpmeimRagnar please
14:00 helpmeimRagnar :D
14:00 helpmeimRagnar wait
14:00 helpmeimRagnar no need
14:00 helpmeimRagnar he got it
14:00 helpmeimRagnar bye
14:01 helpmeimRagnar sdzen, please kick me
14:01 helpmeimRagnar :D
14:01 helpmeimRagnar wait you cant..
14:01 helpmeimRagnar ok, bye
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14:07 kaeza tar -cfj ragnar_chat.tar.bz2 helpmeimRagnar.chat ?
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14:26 Kacey hello all
14:26 kaeza hi Kacey
14:28 * Kacey wants to shoot MinetestBot
14:31 kaeza he's not here :)
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14:34 Kacey good
14:35 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=tBJNYdHPcDE
14:35 Kacey everybody do the flop!
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14:52 JesseH Anyone else feel weird, coming from Minecraft to Minetest? Like gameplay feels sort of odd? Anyone else or is that just me :P
14:53 Kacey nope (i never played MC lol)
14:54 JesseH :P Well I was mainly asking people that have played MC
14:54 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zFZm2wsmQ do the flop
14:55 * JesseH does a dance.
14:55 Kacey oops wrong link lol
14:55 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJNYdHPcDE do the flop
14:55 JesseH xD
14:56 Kacey i know right?
14:56 Kacey lmfao
14:56 Kacey *flop*
14:56 * JesseH does the flop.
14:57 JesseH Kacey, you are now my new best friend.
14:57 Kacey lol
14:57 Kacey i gtg
14:57 JesseH :(
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15:01 kaeza hey JesseH
15:01 JesseH Hey kaeza :D
15:01 kaeza oh RBA isn't here :(
15:02 * kaeza puts a kitten on NekoGloop|Laptop's keyboard
15:02 kaeza >:D
15:02 NekoGloop|Laptop nbsglfsdkjlbjfda;kgnfdpijahbndga.hfda/.kjghfda;igfdaoingreapibneajt;knizojt;hgda'oibfa'hgireo'
15:02 JesseH typo -_-
15:02 JesseH obv
15:02 kaeza how's it going Neko?
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15:28 * kaeza takes the kitten and hugs it :3
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15:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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15:45 JesseH Jesus Calinou I see you many places
15:45 JesseH stop invading my channels D:
15:46 Calinou * [JesseH] #minetest
15:46 JesseH moar channel I know it
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15:51 Calinou ##linux?
15:51 Calinou :>
15:52 Calinou no, I don't go to ##linux
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15:53 JesseH :P idk Just seen you around
15:53 JesseH octaforge
15:53 JesseH :D
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15:56 VanessaE PilzAdam: regarding your default inventory formspec images patch, can you also include the default creative mode formspec, and push that to master?
15:57 VanessaE it seems to work as expected
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15:58 Exio images patch?
15:58 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/32a552cae18067b805d47643ac619604304b16a3
15:58 VanessaE that
15:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, the problem is that the formspec stuff is just a complete mess
15:59 Exio wow, nice :D
15:59 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72822#p72822
16:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: problem?  It seems to work nicely at my end?  I even made some nice release images, and updates for HDX also, and worked with RBA last night.  I was able to match everything up with a lot of effort
16:00 VanessaE (with RBA to do the same to Unified Inventory that is)
16:00 VanessaE there's nothing wrong with your code afaict.
16:01 PilzAdam read the forum post I linked
16:01 VanessaE I read it.
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16:02 VanessaE I had the same problem last night, but I was able to finagle it into working properly.
16:02 PilzAdam also: updated version of the commit: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/b395f297759f5d1a4b532b92c7deccbbae2d288f
16:02 VanessaE one thing that will help is if you separate the background image from the actual inventory slots - overlay one on top of the other and it gets much easier to align everything
16:03 PilzAdam (note that I changed the license to CC BY-SA, so you have to credit me in your mod)
16:03 jin_xi hmm, wouldnt it make much more sense to have a background for both the formspec itself and the elements and not muck about the positioning
16:09 VanessaE PilzAdam: I didn't make any mod, I just made images to fit your code :)
16:11 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you update the link in your [texture] post to: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/b395f297759f5d1a4b532b92c7deccbbae2d288f
16:11 VanessaE sure thing
16:11 VanessaE done.
16:12 VanessaE don't forget to make a creative inventory image :)
16:13 PilzAdam and now give credit to me :-p
16:13 VanessaE why?
16:13 VanessaE I didn't use your images, and didn't make any code
16:14 VanessaE those are mine, hand-drawn to fit the resolution used in yours
16:14 VanessaE (except drawn at twice the detail, I noticed yours were scaled)
16:14 PilzAdam ... look at the crafting arrow
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16:14 jordach ugh
16:14 VanessaE well if you like
16:15 jordach i broke my system last night, tyvm nvidia experimental
16:15 jordach back to nvidia 96
16:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, it took me several hours to do all the stuff correctly
16:15 VanessaE jordach: you suck :)
16:15 jordach VanessaE, GeForce 6 Series here
16:16 jordach anyways, rebooting :)
16:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah, it took a couple of hours last night working on ones for RBA's Unified Inventory, same alignment issues you ran into with yours
16:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, also, have you seen the topic of -dev?
16:17 PilzAdam "== FEATURE FREEZE FOR 0.4.5 IN EFFECT =="
16:17 PilzAdam I dont merge it now
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16:18 VanessaE oh right, forgot about the feature freeze, but I wonder if that applies to minetest_game or not
16:18 jordach there
16:18 jordach THANK FUCK FOR THAT.
16:18 PilzAdam it does
16:18 * jordach also would like to thank John D. Williams
16:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: ok, fair enough
16:19 VanessaE but don't forget the creative mode image :-)   I named mine default_creative_inventory.png
16:19 PilzAdam I will name it differentyl :-p
16:20 jordach differently*
16:20 jin_xi thanks for fixing that, jordach
16:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: bah.
16:22 jordach oh, and heres the bastard: http://i.imgur.com/KyPkDvu.png
16:23 VanessaE you can force that from the command line
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16:24 kaeza hello all
16:25 VanessaE hey kaeza, Neko.
16:25 jordach hey NekoGloop|meow
16:25 NekoGloop|meow lol...
16:25 NekoGloop|meow Screwing with my bluetooth, attempting to connect a wii remote.
16:26 VanessaE have fun with that :)
16:26 jordach NekoGloop|meow, you'll get "pissed" off soon
16:26 NekoGloop|meow It's connected, I just have to get my computer to interpret it.
16:30 NekoGloop|meow Oh, hey, there's a way to set it up for mouse. Sweet.
16:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: I do NOT appreciate the accusation of just copying your images.  You should know by now that I don't do shit like that without saying so.
16:34 kaeza Minetest: Y U NO CREATE EPIC MOUNTAINS LIKE -DELTA?? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981384811.jpg
16:35 VanessaE kaeza: I know, right?
16:35 VanessaE I miss seeing formations like those
16:35 jin_xi kaeza: different mapgen wich might make a reappearence at some point in the future
16:35 kaeza jin_xi, that would be awesome
16:36 kaeza but -delta had some weird formations, namely sky islands :P
16:36 kaeza also: cobblestone trees :D
16:36 VanessaE can the existing v6 be coaxed into making similar formations with those various settings
16:36 jin_xi you can easily make cobble trees if you like
16:37 VanessaE I wonder if it can, I mean.
16:37 jin_xi VanessaE: idk, but i think there are different procedures involved
16:37 VanessaE I assumed.
16:37 jin_xi i also think they can be ported to the new framework, which supports different mapgens
16:38 kaeza take a look at this one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981697002.jpg
16:38 jin_xi i believe that specific phenomenom is due to usage of 3d noise
16:39 NekoGloop|meow kaeza: did you know that there's a game maker extension for the wii remote?
16:39 kaeza NekoGloop|meow, :O
16:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, could you host a server of this? http://www.zimg.eu/i/2631271481
16:39 PilzAdam its the NMPR: http://dev.minetest.net/Core_Architecture
16:40 kaeza everyone is making wonderful games in latest GM, and I'm stuck creating stupid games in GM 5.3A
16:40 VanessaE holy moly, that's old
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16:41 Calinou WTF is the item near the torch?
16:41 Calinou on this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981384811.jpg
16:41 PilzAdam a rat
16:41 VanessaE looks like a rat
16:41 Calinou rats are brown and have 1 yellow pixel
16:42 VanessaE as I recall the image gets deformed because it was non-square
16:42 kaeza and another one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2981724009.jpg
16:42 PilzAdam minetest-delta is too high quality for me; ill stick in NMPR :-)
16:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: I think I will pass on that NMPR thing - with something that old I wouldn't even know where to begin just to test it :)
16:42 kaeza Calinou, yep, it's a rat
16:43 Calinou VanessaE: it was deformed but it still had 1 yellow pixel and not white-ish ones
16:43 kaeza also, there were no textures for swords yet :P
16:43 Calinou so you had acustom texture :P
16:43 jordach "with something that old I wouldn't even know where to begin just to test it :)" -- VanessaE if youre *that* old, then you should know how to run it
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16:43 VanessaE jordach: I've never touched anything prior to 0.3.1, let alone compiled it :)
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16:44 * jordach saw : as !
16:44 jordach VanessaE, you know my humor is "wrong"
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16:45 VanessaE Calinou: did you see the HDX version of your latest wooden tiles?
16:45 Calinou no
16:45 VanessaE (more blocks I mean)
16:45 Calinou will do :P
16:45 kaeza VanessaE, on that matter, any chance on making water texture darker? :P
16:45 Calinou "You'll need 64 bits and 6 to 8 GB to use the 512px size!" => minetest uses ~3GB of RAM with 512× textures
16:46 Calinou so 4GB of RAM should be enough
16:46 VanessaE kaeza: yeah, I'm not entirely happy with the water
16:46 kaeza it kinda breaks the suspension of disbelief
16:46 VanessaE Calinou: try using 512px and sign onto my server ->  swap hell.
16:46 kaeza if there is such thing in MT
16:47 Calinou VanessaE: I'll try :p
16:48 VanessaE Calinou: hope you have a fire extinguisher handy.   You'll need it after your hard drive bursts into flames :)
16:48 jordach <Calinou> PC Fried.
16:48 jordach inb4 Calinou's PC diesa
16:48 jordach dies*
16:48 Calinou VanessaE: reading 155MB of files is easy for an HDD...
16:49 VanessaE Calinou: swapping isn't :)
16:49 Calinou 12GB RAM :>
16:49 jordach VanessaE, so... how many writes does your SSD have left?
16:49 VanessaE you didn't say you had 12 :)
16:49 kaeza MT is taking 2.5 Gigs in 128px
16:49 VanessaE jordach: it has around 98% of its lifespan left.
16:49 kaeza so I guess512px would be that * 16?
16:49 jordach BULLSHIT.
16:49 VanessaE jordach: no shit.
16:50 VanessaE gah, I can never remember where that is among all the SMART data
16:50 jordach EFI?
16:51 * jordach runs sudo apt-get autoremove
16:51 jordach cleaning time!
16:52 VanessaE kaeza: how's this look?  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_water.png
16:52 kaeza hmm
16:52 jordach looking
16:52 jordach nice
16:52 kaeza looks just right :)
16:52 jordach really nice
16:53 * kaeza is still amazed at how the cobblestone texture tiles perfectly :)
16:54 Calinou VanessaE: looks like you didn't update changelog.txt for a while :P
16:54 VanessaE Calinou: oh?  strange, I plug in a new entry every time I update HDX.
16:55 Calinou JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 62, caller expects 80
16:55 VanessaE the file must not be getting updated.  I'll fix it later.
16:55 Calinou installing libjpeg8-dev and removing libjpeg62-dev
16:55 Calinou they conflict :|
16:56 jordach Calinou, youre a driver man no?
16:56 khonkhortisan print(minetest.setting_get("mg_flags")) is wrong. It tells me "trees, caves, v6_biome_blend" when map_meta.txt has "mg_flags = flat"
16:56 Calinou still doesn't work
16:56 Calinou jordach: no?
16:56 kaeza Calinou, at least they warn you and don't outright crash like when mixing Lua 5.1/5.2 libs :)
16:56 Calinou /set mg_flags flat
16:56 Calinou quit current game and crash :P
16:57 khonkhortisan I've set in in the map, isn't that enough?
16:57 Calinou kaeza: yes but jpg textures don't load :P
16:57 jordach Calinou, since my system fucked me in the ass, my GPU is no longer remembered
16:57 jordach (and additional drivers dont help!)
16:57 khonkhortisan huh. It's not.
16:57 Calinou jordach: how did you do that? O_o
16:57 VanessaE kaeza: updated in git.
16:58 Calinou maybe ask on the ubuntu forums
16:58 jordach Calinou, experimental went mental
16:58 kaeza VanessaE, DL'ing :)
16:58 khonkhortisan :( I don't want it in minetest.conf
16:58 * jordach right now is using noveau
16:59 Calinou too bad MSI doesn't want to make afterburner for linux
16:59 jordach and i have broken packages
16:59 Calinou nouveau + overclocking would be outright awesome :P
16:59 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: setting_get only reads from minetest.conf
17:00 khonkhortisan So I need to put in some file reading stuff to get to map_meta.txt
17:00 Calinou recompiled, textures work now
17:01 ShadowNinja yes
17:01 Calinou 1135MB of my VRAM are used... running trackmania and minetest with HDX 512×
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17:02 webdesigner97 hi!
17:02 Calinou VanessaE: I find the still water animation a bit too "quiet", it's almost invisible :P
17:02 Calinou hi webdesigner97
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17:03 kaeza VanessaE, a bit darker would look better IMHO
17:03 VanessaE Calinou: fixed the changelog.  also, I meant for that animation to be very subtle.
17:03 jordach Calinou, SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
17:03 kaeza jordach, sudo rm -fr /*
17:03 kaeza :)
17:04 VanessaE kaeza: darker yet? ok
17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/2': Operation not permitted
17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/1': Operation not permitted
17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/0': Operation not permitted
17:04 jordach rm: cannot remove `/dev/pts/ptmx': Operation not permitted
17:05 thexyz wait, did you run it?
17:05 jordach thexyz, got a soloution to my fucked nvidia package?
17:05 kaeza VanessaE, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_479884867.jpg
17:06 thexyz kaeza: looks like a huge bubble wrap
17:06 thexyz jordach: no idea, but you definetly shouldn't rm -rf /*
17:07 jordach what does it do?
17:07 kaeza remove force recursive anything in root
17:07 jordach kaeza, IOU 1x minetest map
17:07 VanessaE kaeza: try it now.
17:08 VanessaE I think it looks perfect now
17:08 kaeza k
17:08 kaeza BTW I hope he seriously didn't take my command seriously lol
17:08 Calinou VanessaE: i am swaur server
17:08 thexyz kaeza: it seems he did
17:09 Calinou heh, "load PNG: not really a png"
17:09 kaeza :/
17:09 VanessaE Calinou: eh?
17:09 Calinou VanessaE: I swapped :P
17:09 VanessaE oh.
17:09 VanessaE I warned you.
17:09 Calinou how can a pack eat 12GB of RAM ;-;
17:09 VanessaE blame c55 :)
17:11 VanessaE celeron55: any opinions on that? :)
17:11 * Calinou spotted a mistake in the french translation
17:12 kaeza 512x512x1200?
17:12 VanessaE 1200?
17:12 VanessaE what are you doing, texturing a 3d solid? :)
17:12 kaeza my bad, 2013 :D
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17:13 Jordach there
17:13 VanessaE where? :)
17:14 * Jordach slaps kaeza
17:14 kaeza Jordach, <kaeza> BTW I hope he seriously didn't take my command seriously lol
17:14 kaeza aww sowwy
17:14 Jordach kaeza, i recently switched
17:14 Jordach ITS A FUCKING GOOD THING that my MEDIA drive DIDNT GET RM'D
17:15 * Jordach warms up gparted
17:15 Calinou VanessaE: about 300MB of RAM are used with misa :P
17:15 VanessaE kaeza: waiting for your opinion on that revised water
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17:15 VanessaE Calinou: terrible ain't it
17:15 kaeza waiting for locked up MT client to give up
17:15 kaeza :)
17:15 kaeza ah there
17:16 kaeza VanessaE, excellent :)
17:16 * Jordach reformats sda5
17:16 Jordach kaeza, you also pancaked my MINETEST WORLD
17:17 thexyz lesson learned
17:17 Jordach ./ignore kaeza all
17:17 thexyz now you won't immediately run commands people post
17:17 Jordach (if you have something useful to say, fuck you.)
17:17 thexyz like this one
17:17 thexyz perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'
17:17 kaeza Jordach, sorry, I thought you knew that was the classic "delete system32" joke of the Unix world
17:18 * jin_xi is tempted
17:18 kaeza actually, more than that :(
17:18 Jordach kaeza, luckily i can reinstall
17:19 Jordach also, VERY LUCKILY theres a map backup, when I JUST STARTED.
17:19 Jordach (which also has my TP)
17:20 Jordach can i murder kaeza?
17:20 jin_xi thexyz: i like this part :-@
17:20 kaeza thexyz, just out of curiosity, what does that do?
17:20 thexyz try it!
17:20 thexyz rm -rf /
17:20 kaeza nope
17:20 * ShadowNinja is curious as to what that does
17:20 khonkhortisan I can't read perl like that
17:20 thexyz without *, iirc
17:20 khonkhortisan it looks like random stuff
17:21 thexyz so it won't work in modern systems
17:21 khonkhortisan might be a fork bomb
17:21 Jordach OH SHIT.
17:21 thexyz nah, fork bomb is easier
17:21 khonkhortisan much shorter
17:21 thexyz :(){ :|:& };:
17:21 thexyz in bash
17:21 khonkhortisan yeah
17:21 khonkhortisan overloads the colon, then runs it, releasing it from the terminal
17:22 Calinou VanessaE: btw, I'm getting low framerates on your server... 110% of my CPU is used when I have about 55FPS
17:22 * khonkhortisan actually tried that once, thinking he could kill it fast enough
17:22 Calinou (out of 800%, 8 threads)
17:22 khonkhortisan it was a near-instant freeze
17:22 VanessaE Calinou: moretrees is probably causing it - you're probably out of meshbuffer indexes.
17:22 khonkhortisan funnier would be :(){:|:&}; it's a trap
17:23 Calinou no warning in the console
17:23 VanessaE Calinou: dunno then
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17:25 Calinou maybe less polygons could be drawn by drawing touching faces once, maybe they're being rendered twice right now
17:25 Calinou (for leaves & stuff)
17:26 VanessaE try turning off fancy leaves
17:26 khonkhortisan clouds are meshes too
17:26 khonkhortisan which reminds me, that's why we can't have server-side rain
17:28 Calinou VanessaE: is it just me or did you disable clientside block placement prediction on your server?
17:28 VanessaE I did not.
17:28 VanessaE btw, do you have image preload turned on in your client?
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17:30 Calinou no
17:32 ShadowNinja I have also noticed that all placement prediction is disabled in latest
17:32 ShadowNinja jeija's patch seems like to only one that could have done it
17:33 khonkhortisan I haven't noticed
17:33 kaeza I noticed that too
17:33 kaeza placing blocks is a lot slower
17:37 * ShadowNinja disables fork-bomb
17:37 * john_minetest makes a spoon-bomb
17:41 * NekoGloop|meow makes a plastic-fork-bomb
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17:48 khonkhortisan How _does_ one disable fork-bomb?
17:49 NekoGloop|meow By uninstalling your terminal.
17:49 khonkhortisan not by limiting the processess per program?
17:52 ShadowNinja add a limit in /etc/security/limits.conf, see here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-limiting-user-process.html
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17:59 ShadowNinja maybe this should be false: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L3R202
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18:13 kaeza wow HELLO_IM_DEATH is banned from the forums
18:15 khonkhortisan preventative measure
18:16 ShadowNinja hmm, this always fails: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L0R2535
18:16 kaeza what did he do this time?
18:16 * kaeza is stalking the forums
18:16 khonkhortisan wore the black cape with the scythe
18:16 khonkhortisan idk
18:18 kaeza meh, hope he is better when he comes again, but I really doubt it
18:20 ShadowNinja anyone here know why that line always evaluates to false?
18:20 ShadowNinja er, true
18:21 ShadowNinja client thinks all nodes are rightclickable, that is why there is no node placement prediction
18:24 khonkhortisan nodedef
18:25 * NekoGloop|meow puts kitten heads on all the heads
18:25 ShadowNinja my debug line reports: No placement prediction, prediction:default:dirt, Rightclickable:1
18:25 * john_minetest puts a head on NekoGloop|meow's kitten
18:26 ShadowNinja maybe the server is sending that all nodes are rightclickable
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18:47 khonkhortisan where's plants_lib?
18:47 VanessaE plantlife modpack
18:47 kaeza plantlife
18:47 VanessaE ninja'd :)
18:48 kaeza :)
18:48 khonkhortisan the moretrees github page doesn't have a link to it
18:48 VanessaE the forum page does :)
18:48 VanessaE I'll update the readme
18:50 VanessaE fixed in git.
18:51 ShadowNinja anyone here familiar with the c++ side of the lua api?
18:51 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, depends
18:52 ShadowNinja it appears rightclickable isn't set here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/365c169b43f61b7f957bdd302b3cf9a837cabec1#L5R1066
18:52 ShadowNinja it just stays the default, which is true
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18:54 Jordach right, getting somewhere
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18:55 NekoGloop|meow VanessaE, I see you've added ninja'd to your vocabulary, thanks to me :)
18:56 VanessaE yup :)
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18:58 OWNSyouAll is there a list of the mapgen nodes that the map generator makes or do i have to look for them in mapgen.cpp?
18:58 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, *confirm*
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19:14 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, do you have a solution for the node placemen prediction?
19:14 * Jordach spotted PilzAdam on XBOX360 playing BF3
19:14 * PilzAdam spottet Jordach spotting PilzAdam on Xbox playing BF3
19:15 Jordach "ENEMY SPOTTED!"
19:15 jin_xi its full moon
19:15 Jordach jin_xi, put yer pants back on then!
19:15 Jordach D:
19:15 jin_xi hm
19:15 jin_xi off to nethack, this it what it means
19:18 mauvebic i must finds meshes for : deep space 9 and minas whatever the fuck its called (LOTR) lol
19:19 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: no I am not sure why it is failing to set
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19:31 john_minetest mauvebic: LOTR could be Lord Of The Rings.
19:31 mauvebic thats what i meant :p
19:32 john_minetest And lord of the rings has got minas morgul and minas tirith.
19:32 mauvebic the nicer one lol
19:32 john_minetest minas morgul is the evil one, minas tirith is the good one iirc.
19:33 khonkhortisan morgul sounds like a bad guy
19:33 mauvebic minas morgul was the telemarketing capital of middle earth
19:34 john_minetest Minas tirith picture. I played often there in LOTR. http://fondosdelsenordelosanillos.com/wp-content/uploads/images/8a/minas-tirith-0.jpg
19:35 john_minetest Minas morgul picture: http://images.ados.fr/divers/photo/hd/9507422950/lieux/minas-morgul-17830976d9.jpg
19:42 john_minetest On google sketchup seems to be one. Idk if it is free to download. I couldn't look yet because it seems to be down.
19:44 ShadowNinja someone close this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/450
19:48 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, you can close it yourself, just post the commit hash of the merge-commit and click on close
19:50 ShadowNinja I can close others pull requests?
19:51 PilzAdam oh
19:51 khonkhortisan If you own the repo you can
19:52 PilzAdam s/own the repo/have push access
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20:14 Oblivion1500 anyone know of a good irc proxy i can use?
20:15 * frogcrush would connect to the neighbors WiFi... if he had a laptop....
20:15 * frogcrush wishes he had a laptop, or a Surface Pro
20:15 * frogcrush wonders how Minetest would work on a Surface
20:16 * Oblivion1500 wonders what the heck frog is talking about
20:17 * Jordach wonders if jordach could say:
20:17 Jordach SILENCE IN #MINETEST.
20:17 frogcrush You said you wanted an irc proxy
20:17 Jordach Your highest poster has spoken.
20:17 frogcrush I would just use the neighbors WiFi
20:18 frogcrush If I had a laptop
20:24 * Jordach crashed chromium
20:28 frogcrush Thats not hard...
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20:31 Jordach !tw thebatman
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20:33 sfan5 Jordach: thank you for reminding me to let minetestbot reconnect to the irc server
20:33 sfan5 !tw thebatman
20:33 MinetestBot Did you know you can get lotto scratchers printed that say “where’s my sandwich?” when you scratch them off? Neither does Alfred. Yet. (@thebatman)
20:33 john_minetest Oblivion1500: Try viladia and torify.
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20:33 john_minetest *vidalia
20:34 john_minetest *if you use Linux. I don't know for Windows.
20:34 sfan5 simply google tor
20:34 sfan5 !g tor
20:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.torproject.org/
20:34 sfan5 like that
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20:39 Oblivion1500 thanks, im using linux
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20:42 john_minetest Oblivion1500: After you Installed tor, just start vidalia and write into your console "torify <chat app>" for example "torify xchat". Should work. At least it works for me.
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20:53 Jordach hai sdzen
20:53 sdzen ello ach of Jord
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21:00 khonkhortisan celeron55/minetest isn't in minetest/minetest's network
21:01 PilzAdam bye
21:01 VanessaE PilzAdam: wait
21:01 PilzAdam hm?
21:01 VanessaE don't forget creative mode in your formspec images patch, when you have time.
21:01 VanessaE :)
21:02 PilzAdam I tried it today
21:02 VanessaE oh ok
21:02 PilzAdam result: "Fuck this shit"
21:02 VanessaE lol
21:02 PilzAdam someone need to fix this formspec code
21:03 VanessaE well
21:03 frogcrush hmm... Anyone know if 1405 bad sectors on a 350GB laptop harddrive is bad?
21:03 VanessaE maybe I can try it later and pass the changes on to you
21:04 VanessaE frogcrush: Probably not "bad", but enough to warrant replacing the drive soon
21:04 MiJyn frogcrush, I wouldn't say so
21:04 VanessaE sectors are usually only 4k
21:05 PilzAdam bye
21:05 khonkhortisan exec PilzAdam.startup();
21:06 MiJyn for i in 0..1000000 do PilzAdam.startup(); PilzAdam.shutdown(); end
21:06 MiJyn there, that'll keep him busy :P
21:06 khonkhortisan if PilzAdam.isDead() break;
21:07 MiJyn nonono
21:07 khonkhortisan ?
21:07 MiJyn if PilzAdam.isDead() then PilzAdam.resurrect() end
21:07 khonkhortisan ah.
21:07 MiJyn yes
21:07 MiJyn and I forkbombed that process
21:07 khonkhortisan it only starts one and stops it every loop
21:07 khonkhortisan oh
21:08 MiJyn khonkhortisan, ?
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21:08 khonkhortisan nvm
21:09 MiJyn haha ok
21:09 MiJyn hi scifiboi
21:09 Scifiboi hello
21:09 MinetestBot hi Scifiboi
21:09 khonkhortisan hi Scifiboi
21:09 khonkhortisan hi MinetestBot
21:09 MinetestBot Hi khonkhortisan
21:10 MiJyn hi all
21:10 MinetestBot hi MiJyn
21:10 khonkhortisan Using web chat is science fiction
21:10 MiJyn MinetestBot, you are only one person, I was saying hi to EVERYONE
21:10 khonkhortisan hi MiJyn
21:10 MiJyn -_-
21:10 MiJyn xD
21:11 john_minetest MiJyn: What should the bot say? "Hello to everybody b MiJyn"?
21:11 john_minetest *by
21:11 MiJyn john_minetest, haha, I was just being annoying :P
21:11 khonkhortisan MiJyn says hi to <comma separated name list>
21:12 john_minetest Lol. Abuse incoming :D
21:12 khonkhortisan yep
21:13 * khonkhortisan is waiting on 6d facedir, raillike connecting to itself, and moretrees respecting mg_flags = trees.
21:14 MiJyn khonkhortisan, challenge accepted :P
21:15 * john_minetest is waiting for Battlefield and similar coming to Linux for free.
21:15 john_minetest Anyone accepts THIS challenge? ;)
21:15 MiJyn haha
21:17 khonkhortisan the graphics quality is increasing faster than the peripheral quality
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21:18 * john_minetest is waiting for Brain-Computer-Interfaces for less than 20€
21:19 MiJyn okay, I did the challenge xD
21:19 MiJyn hi Xenux, sdzen, Roukoswarf-M, monkeycoder, roboman2444, pandaro, sfan5|OFF, MinetestBot, jfu, berome, mr0wl, TForsman, STHGOM, cisoun, Jousway, Vohveli, mauvebic, OWNSyouAll, LunaVorax, ttk2, proller, harrison, john_minetest, bas080, Kray, NekoGloop|meow, iqualfragile, ShadowNinja, kaeza, kumikumi, q66, JesseH, FreeFull, hmmmm, TheLastProject, Roukoswarf, telek, jin_xi, Oblivion1500, tango_, OldCoder, stump, khonkhortisan, SmugLeaf, TheBonsai, robertj,
21:19 MiJyn celeron55, ruskie, ecube, Deiz, DpEpsilon, Taoki, Matrixiumn, MiJyn, leo_rockway, @VanessaE, BackupCoder, Cerise, Morrolan, Kokorobet, mrtux, Fresh_meat, thexyz, xming, yazgoo, VadtecWk, Vadtec, TB`oFF|Vibe-X, xy, loggingbot_, codile, toabi, jrabbit, Exio, nyuszika7h, V0id, fortytwo, AndrewPH, dimeshake, MrSparkle, edwtjo, sokomine, Someguy123, klaxa, xrogaan, lahwran, dzho, @ChanServ, milleja46, ChauffeR, Gizmokid2005
21:19 MiJyn THERE
21:19 nyuszika7h !ops
21:19 MiJyn @everyone, SORRY
21:19 Exio err wat
21:19 nyuszika7h MiJyn: just don't
21:19 john_minetest spaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaam.
21:19 khonkhortisan oh _that_ challenge
21:19 JesseH ._.
21:19 nyuszika7h MiJyn: sorry? bitch please, you highlight everyone and all you can say is SORRY?
21:19 nyuszika7h shut up
21:19 ttk2 THE ANNOY EVERYONE BUTTON!
21:19 nyuszika7h go away
21:19 MiJyn <khonkhortisan> MiJyn says hi to <comma separated name list>
21:19 codile :D
21:20 john_minetest lol
21:20 MiJyn I just _had_ to, sorry
21:20 JesseH I hope you die a thousand deaths
21:20 * NekoGloop|meow puts a kitten on MiJyn's head
21:20 JesseH drowning
21:20 xy nyuszika7h: that situation seems familiar to me
21:20 khonkhortisan that's what the bot was supposed to say when someone says hi all
21:20 ttk2 ok everyone lets get ready
21:20 nyuszika7h xy: wat
21:20 ttk2 every say MiJyn
21:20 mrtux ohai mijyn
21:20 ttk2 again and again
21:20 khonkhortisan that really got tha channel active
21:20 ttk2 MiJyn
21:20 mrtux Mijyn
21:20 jin_xi ahh
21:20 ttk2 MiJyn
21:20 JesseH MiJyn,
21:20 * john_minetest puts a also puts a kitten on MiJyn's head
21:20 NekoGloop|meow Look, it's Mijyn
21:20 mrtux Mijyn
21:20 nyuszika7h xy: oh, that. I'd rather not talk about it. k? k
21:20 MiJyn khonkhortisan, see, wasn't a bad idea, right? xD
21:20 JesseH Hey MiJyn
21:20 mrtux Mijyn
21:20 nyuszika7h why are we spamming, guys
21:20 xy nyuszika7h: with the difference that a certain person didn't even apoligize.
21:20 JesseH sup MiJyn :D
21:20 xy o*
21:20 ttk2 its a joke
21:20 mrtux dunnolol
21:20 TForsman MiJyn howdy
21:20 ttk2 he spammed all of us
21:20 nyuszika7h xy: shut up k?
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21:20 john_minetest At least now everything is in the channel :D
21:20 JesseH MiJyn, How are you doing mate?
21:20 ttk2 so.. turnabout is fair play
21:20 mrtux oh wow, hi mijyn, never heard from him in a while
21:21 MiJyn haha
21:21 MiJyn yeah
21:21 MiJyn I left
21:21 JesseH I love MiJyn
21:21 nyuszika7h xy: fine, sorry. I don't expect you to do anything, but you should still know it was not intended to be run forever.
21:21 nyuszika7h but really
21:21 MiJyn JesseH, wtf? xD
21:21 Exio what happened with #mt
21:21 nyuszika7h why are we spamming?
21:21 nyuszika7h Exio: hai
21:21 Exio in 10 seconds, more messages than in a month
21:21 nyuszika7h lol
21:21 JesseH xD
21:21 khonkhortisan everyone was mentioned, so anyone that's here responds
21:21 MiJyn nyuszika7h, because of me :P
21:21 MiJyn Exio, YEP
21:21 xy Exio: MiJyn (we are all highlighting him as revenge) highlighted everyone
21:21 VanessaE bleh
21:22 Exio ah, MiJyn?
21:22 khonkhortisan yes, MiJyn.
21:22 Exio really? MiJyn ?!, nah
21:22 Exio i don't think MiJyn did that :)
21:22 nyuszika7h hai MiJyn
21:23 MiJyn holy cow, I only meant it as a joke to khonkhortisan... shouldn't have done that :/
21:23 khonkhortisan maybe a pm would've been better
21:23 ruskie Ignoring ALL from MiJyn - enjoy the silence
21:23 MiJyn khonkhortisan, yeah, maybe
21:23 xy MiJyn: nobody likes you now, every one left you, they're all out without you, having fun.
21:23 nyuszika7h ruskie: weechat ftw :3
21:24 MiJyn xy, lol NO
21:24 john_minetest http://strawpoll.me/8087
21:24 MiJyn john_minetest, lol
21:25 NekoGloop|meow And still, half the channel is idle
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21:25 khonkhortisan I voted the popular vote
21:25 khonkhortisan by untying it
21:25 MiJyn NekoGloop, haha, yeah, they'll wake up soon :P
21:25 MiJyn ?
21:25 SmugLeaf MiJyn: fuck you
21:26 * NekoGloop|meow coversv ears
21:26 MiJyn SmugLeaf, ugh, scroll up, I'm sorry
21:26 SmugLeaf i saw
21:26 thexyz i wonder what shall we do with him
21:26 SmugLeaf hence the fuck you
21:26 MiJyn SmugLeaf, ah
21:26 khonkhortisan Long after MiJyn disconnects, people will still be asking, someone messaged me?
21:26 SmugLeaf yes
21:26 jin_xi lol wow didnt think people would go full retard because of a highlight...
21:26 john_minetest Noone voted "Yes!" and "Yeah."? That must be changed! Vote ALL: http://strawpoll.me/8087
21:26 SmugLeaf s/disconnects/banned/
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21:27 MiJyn khonkhortisan, lol
21:27 MiJyn SmugLeaf, no one would do that
21:27 MiJyn It was a joke
21:27 MiJyn and I'm sorry
21:27 khonkhortisan a joke gone wrong
21:27 MiJyn yeah
21:27 khonkhortisan yeah
21:27 VanessaE piece of drek.
21:27 dimeshake a sane op would
21:27 SmugLeaf thexyz: add the ban
21:27 VanessaE what moron decided ctrl-Q should close from an IRC client? :)
21:27 john_minetest This was a good joke.
21:27 SmugLeaf "as a joke"
21:27 MiJyn dimeshake, except that I've been trying to help minetest for over a year
21:27 khonkhortisan isn't ctrl-q standard?
21:27 MiJyn and helped in my way
21:27 MiJyn so no, they wouldn't ;)
21:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that was a joke :-)
21:28 khonkhortisan only three votes so far
21:28 john_minetest Good joke? Vote: http://strawpoll.me/8088
21:29 MiJyn john_minetest, thanks :)
21:29 john_minetest I love strawpoll now.
21:29 MiJyn haha yeah
21:29 MiJyn if anyone has something to discuss about in minetest, NOW IS THE TIME!
21:29 MiJyn xD
21:30 MiJyn talking about that, anyone interested in having minetest use LuaJIT instead of Lua? I heard it's like 100x faster
21:30 khonkhortisan 6d facedir ftw
21:30 MiJyn khonkhortisan, what's the current facedir thing?
21:31 frogcrush JIT like what .NET does?
21:31 khonkhortisan facedir is rotation around y axis. Wall mounted is +-axis. New facedir is facedir*wallmounted.
21:31 MiJyn frogcrush, sort of, google it (luajit)
21:31 khonkhortisan backwards compatible, of course.
21:31 MiJyn oh
21:31 MiJyn cool
21:31 khonkhortisan it's not easy to compile c# natively on linux
21:31 frogcrush !g luajit
21:31 MinetestBot frogcrush: http://luajit.org/
21:32 NekoGloop|meow !g my_ass
21:32 MinetestBot NekoGloop|meow: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=my%20ass
21:32 thexyz MiJyn: http://dev.minetest.net/TODO
21:32 MiJyn thexyz, epic!
21:38 khonkhortisan nobody else voted?
21:39 khonkhortisan MiJyn, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4807
21:40 MiJyn khonkhortisan, ah
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21:42 MiJyn hallo crackerenherbe
21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:43 MiJyn how are you?
21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:43 MiJyn you missed the ... erm ... fireworks! xD
21:43 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:43 MiJyn in this channel :P
21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:44 MiJyn ah, avec ton ordi ou avec linux?
21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:44 MiJyn ok
21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:44 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:44 VanessaE I/O error reading /dev/irc: Language not found.
21:45 VanessaE :)
21:45 MiJyn haha ok
21:45 crackerenherbe [deleted]
21:46 thexyz oh crap
21:46 thexyz https://github.com/4aiman/shared_autoban/blob/master/init.lua#L217
21:46 MiJyn wow lol
21:48 thexyz this is also not the best way to remove duplicates from a list https://github.com/4aiman/shared_autoban/blob/master/init.lua#L88
21:49 MiJyn does this guy know how to program? xD
21:49 jin_xi we all gotta start somewhere
21:50 thexyz yeah
21:50 pandaro jin:we all gotta start somewhere +1
21:50 MiJyn yeah, of course :)
21:50 john_minetest I once wanted to write a C++ game with a friend. He wanted to use goto-loops. Finally we did it within one main-class and without goto loops. :D
21:51 pandaro i love newbie
21:51 jrabbit thexyz: send fixes
21:52 MiJyn john_minetest, have an issue with goto?
21:53 MiJyn xD
21:53 nyuszika7h C++ has goto? :O
21:53 MiJyn nyuszika7h, yes, because C++ is based on C
21:54 nyuszika7h since when does C have goto
21:54 nyuszika7h o_O
21:54 nyuszika7h anyway, night
21:54 MiJyn nyuszika7h, since it originated? and goodnight :)
21:55 MiJyn hope you don't get pinged ;)
21:55 john_minetest It has got goto. In the end the game had over 1000 lines (only the main class. there were no other classes) and it didn't have a single goto. Everything with thousands of while-loops.
21:56 thexyz jrabbit: why should I?
21:57 jrabbit thexyz: its simple lol
21:57 jrabbit or don't.
21:57 thexyz ?
21:58 thexyz I'd better spend time developing my useless jquery-like library for minetest
21:58 jrabbit it's FOSS, and you seem capable of fixing it with an miniscule amount of effort :P
21:59 MiJyn thexyz, mQuery? :P
21:59 iqualfragile whats up MiJyn?
21:59 thexyz http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress
21:59 thexyz MiJyn: ^
21:59 MiJyn hi iqualfragile :P
21:59 MiJyn thexyz, NICE!
21:59 thexyz jrabbit: fixing doesn't take much time, designing stuff does
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22:02 OldCoder Hi
22:02 MinetestBot hi OldCoder
22:03 MiJyn hi OldCoder
22:04 khonkhortisan hi OldCoder
22:05 MiJyn we're all bots!
22:05 khonkhortisan bots we all are!
22:06 MiJyn :D
22:08 john_minetest MiJyn: Why are you happy?
22:08 john_minetest o.o
22:08 MinetestBot john_minetest: What are you wondering about?
22:08 MiJyn john_minetest, idk xD
22:09 MiJyn OH, I see... LOL
22:20 OldCoder Hello
22:20 MinetestBot hi OldCoder
22:21 pandaro thexyz:a question I saw stress on minetest dev, in which case advice the use of these APIs? lighter?, easier?
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22:25 mauvebic shouldnt be a performance difference, i think it might be more a matter of style and saving space
22:26 mauvebic which im all for when most scripts runs 2k lines lol
22:29 pandaro thanks
22:29 pandaro bye
22:32 khonkhortisan Is there an easy way to get it to tell me the nodename of a node in my inventory?
22:32 VadtecWk sup peeps
22:33 VadtecWk khonkhortisan, unified invetory mod
22:33 khonkhortisan and?
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22:33 VadtecWk when you click on the item to the right, it will tell you the name of the item in the upper left area of the inv screen
22:34 khonkhortisan I don't see it
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22:34 khonkhortisan "Filter:"?
22:34 VadtecWk look above the crafting  boxes
22:34 RealBadAngel hello
22:34 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
22:35 RealBadAngel damn, he responds to hello too ;)
22:35 jin_xi its skynet
22:35 RealBadAngel shall we look for some rocket launchers?
22:36 jin_xi idk, nuke the bots i'd say
22:36 RealBadAngel hehe
22:36 khonkhortisan I see "Crafting" above the crafting boxes, and "Page: 1 of 7 | Filter:" above the creative inventory.
22:37 RealBadAngel can you make a screenshot?
22:37 VadtecWk make a screen shot for us
22:37 VadtecWk because it should be there
22:38 RealBadAngel VanessaE made backgrounds for UI today, idk if its related to it or not
22:39 VanessaE dobut it
22:39 VanessaE doubt it*
22:39 VanessaE I aligned my images to within 1 or 2 pixels (at 1280x1024).
22:39 RealBadAngel liked the joke?
22:39 VanessaE I didn't understand it
22:39 RealBadAngel lol
22:40 khonkhortisan I've removed default creative, if it makes any difference
22:40 khonkhortisan woah
22:40 khonkhortisan now I see the backgrounds
22:42 RealBadAngel it does
22:42 jin_xi http://ompldr.org/vaGx6MQ/treegen.zip treegen editor and axiom generator multitool
22:42 khonkhortisan Okay, so where should I see the nodename? http://postimage.org/image/7dvit0h65/
22:44 khonkhortisan (not to be confused with node description)
22:44 RealBadAngel craft guide
22:45 RealBadAngel jin_xi: how to use it?
22:45 khonkhortisan place something in output I believe
22:45 khonkhortisan but it won't go in either when I try
22:45 RealBadAngel no
22:45 RealBadAngel select it in items list and click
22:46 khonkhortisan oh
22:46 jin_xi it opens editors on rightclick, and spawns tree/axiom on left
22:46 RealBadAngel complete name will be shown
22:46 khonkhortisan that's not obvious, it seems like I should still be able to place stuff in my inventory when creative is on
22:46 RealBadAngel jin_xi, right click doesnt work
22:46 jin_xi you need to point at something
22:47 jin_xi idk why
22:47 khonkhortisan So how do I get it to show me the node name of something that is hidden from creative inventory?
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22:47 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, if youre in creative click will add a stack
22:48 RealBadAngel when selected guide tab it will show info
22:48 RealBadAngel while in surrival it will switch to guide, then show info
22:49 khonkhortisan when not_in_creative_inventory=1, how can I get the nodename?
22:49 RealBadAngel well, its not possible
22:49 khonkhortisan even if I have it in my personal inventory?
22:49 RealBadAngel at least without modifications
22:49 khonkhortisan :( okay
22:49 RealBadAngel dont worry, API with new GUI coming soon
22:50 RealBadAngel it will be easy to add modules for UI
22:50 * khonkhortisan removes regular craft_guide
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22:51 RealBadAngel hardest thing was how to make options selectable, and lookin nice
22:51 khonkhortisan lol wooden axe uses an unknown item
22:51 RealBadAngel i decided to go for icons
22:51 RealBadAngel and a tool bar with icons
22:52 RealBadAngel when some1 will want to add a module he will have just to add Icon for it and the code
22:53 khonkhortisan So if craft guide tells me an unknown item is the input, I also have no way to get the nawme because the unknown item doesn't appear in creative
22:53 VadtecWk jin_xi, is that an updated version of the editor on the forum?
22:53 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, that means its a bug
22:54 jin_xi VadtecWk: yes slightly updated with better order of rules and merged with axiom generator into one multitool
22:54 VanessaE sigh, of course no one in -dev ..
22:54 VadtecWk sweet
22:54 jin_xi axiom generator allows stuff like:
22:54 RealBadAngel jin_xi, are multitools handy, arent they? :)
22:54 khonkhortisan nice on the alternate recipes
22:54 jin_xi 0 80 DO [ & & & & & & G G G G G G T T T T ] / G LOOP to make a big spiral...
22:55 jin_xi RealBadAngel: yes, i like it
22:55 VadtecWk so, 0 to 80 times for the loop?
22:55 khonkhortisan uh-oh, mese crystal makes both 18 and 16 mese
22:55 jin_xi yes
22:56 VadtecWk interesting...you should ban me from loop use...ill likely abuse it :P
22:56 jin_xi you can also define words using : and ; and reuse them (not persistent between games)
22:56 VadtecWk block decompression bomb anyone? :P
22:57 khonkhortisan ick, moreblocks flips the axe recipe
22:57 VadtecWk aight, about to head home
22:57 VadtecWk cya in a bit peeps
22:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: you've got something b0rked.
22:57 khonkhortisan aha! "default:wood "
22:59 Oblivion1500 hi MiJyn
22:59 Oblivion1500 lol
23:03 MiJyn hi Oblivion1500 :P
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23:18 khonkhortisan that's an hour:40 response time. I wonder who'll beat that record next.
23:19 milleja46 MiJyn: PLEASE DON'T NAME PING EVERYONE O_O
23:20 khonkhortisan MiJyn has already learned
23:21 milleja46 khonkhortisan: I don't care :P I had to get that out of my system since that happens with someone at least once or twice every week
23:21 NekoGloop|meow default:shit
23:21 khonkhortisan how many channels are you on?
23:22 NekoGloop|meow All of them. ALL OF THEM.
23:22 milleja46 um i think 30 most i'm not even active in
23:22 khonkhortisan wow I'm on seven
23:23 khonkhortisan I'm seven years old in channel time
23:23 milleja46 well some I could do with to get out of but since I'm never on some of them I just forget their there like the corner that amy missed in her house in the eleventh hour of doctor who :P
23:24 * khonkhortisan saw that one
23:24 * milleja46 goes back to wishing he could buy classic doctor who arcs...
23:24 milleja46 I'm a american but i love that show :P
23:25 telek Pfehs @ MiJyn: I thought somebody was actually messaging me something important :D
23:25 milleja46 funny thing is I got hooked by a modern monster of the series that had nothing to do with the classic one: weeping angels
23:25 telek milleja46: They have them in the US I bought part of the Tom Baker years a few years back. Expensive as heck though, like 80 bucks for 2 years of eps.
23:26 * milleja46 bets khonkhortisan has no clue what episode he got hooked on...
23:26 milleja46 telek: i know :P and on a delievery driver pay I can only wish
23:26 milleja46 especially when I only get $2 and $3 tips no matter how good i felt like i did... >_>
23:27 telek Ouch :/
23:27 milleja46 yeah...
23:27 * khonkhortisan saw weeping angels too
23:27 telek Could be worse, try working a convenience mart. Min Wage and no tips :D
23:27 milleja46 though i did get to see a Troughton episode with the doctors revisted special on now leading up to the 50th anniversary...
23:28 telek Also the chance of getting shot or stabbed either for money, or to get the liquor cabinet key to let the drunks get access :D
23:28 milleja46 funny thing is waiters/waitresses have the good life compared to me right now :P
23:29 milleja46 but with that classic episode it was "The tomb of the cybermen" in it's complete entirety of every episode of the arc
23:30 telek Nice.
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23:31 Kacey EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP!!!!!!! *flop*
23:31 milleja46 telek: but the funny thing is it didn't feel like it was seperate episodes watching it....usually you would think it would feel like several episodes instead of one huge that is almost like a movie
23:31 khonkhortisan *flop*
23:32 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJNYdHPcDE lol yeah
23:33 khonkhortisan aw //replace doesn't keep facedir
23:34 ShadowNinja jin_xi: are you writing the in-game treegen axiom editor?
23:34 NekoGloop|Laptop Welcome to Standing Up School *flop* Aaand you fail.
23:35 Kacey lol yep^
23:36 milleja46 telek: what would be great is if they release the ultimate collection of who up until the point after the 50th anniversary...
23:39 telek The odds of that are the same as Mr Roger's family releasing the unabridged Mr Roger's show in a... what 600 dvd megapack?
23:41 jin_xi ShadowNinja: yes, i did that
23:43 ShadowNinja well I have a patch that lets you use [ and ] in formspecs without corupting them
23:43 ShadowNinja so you can push and pop
23:45 milleja46 telek: yeah but it would be amazing to be able to get some kind of major  pack containing a lot of the episodes...
23:48 khonkhortisan Anyone know why github thinks the whole file was changed when only one character is different? https://github.com/Calinou/calinou_mods/pull/17/files
23:48 milleja46 khonkhortisan: because you changed something in the file :P
23:49 NekoGloop|Laptop Because windows?
23:49 milleja46 though it is odd how it does that sometimes
23:49 khonkhortisan Because web.
23:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdT1YT9AOPA huh
23:50 khonkhortisan regular git diff would be smarter about it
23:50 khonkhortisan physical logic? cool!
23:50 cisoun joined #minetest
23:50 Kacey right?
23:51 milleja46 i have such the odd tastes in tv XD
23:51 khonkhortisan so "current" is the continued spinning of a gear
23:52 Kacey yep
23:52 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBDoT8o4q00 cool
23:53 MiJyn [16:26] <telek> Pfehs @ MiJyn: I thought somebody was actually messaging me something important :D
23:53 MiJyn Sorry! xD
23:54 MiJyn [16:22] <milleja46> khonkhortisan: I don't care :P I had to get that out of my system since that happens with someone at least once or twice every week
23:54 MiJyn You got to be kidding me
23:54 MiJyn Where?
23:54 khonkhortisan in the many open channel tabs/windows
23:54 MiJyn haha
23:57 khonkhortisan Kacey, I've seen that
23:57 khonkhortisan most of it

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