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00:03 Kacey cool
00:05 theTroy joined #minetest
00:07 milleja46 MiJyn: I am in 30 channels on freenode alone it happens in at least one or two a week :P
00:07 MiJyn milleja46, oh xD
00:07 MiJyn first time I ever did that lol
00:08 milleja46 it's even worse when a complete n00b comes into a channel and decides to do that...
00:09 milleja46 and even funnier when you realize that half the channel is innactive and there are close to 300 or 600 people in it so you do the math :P
00:09 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO5FgM7MLGg
00:10 milleja46 Kacey: this is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdrqdW4Miao
00:13 Kacey playing my legit server again
00:14 VanessaE y u no play my server? :(
00:15 Kacey my battery boxes aren't charging
00:15 Kacey VanessaE, i want to play a legit one :P
00:16 Kacey :( y u no charge?
00:17 VanessaE legit?
00:17 VanessaE what's wrong with mine? :(
00:17 klaxa joined #minetest
00:18 jordan4ibanez joined #minetest
00:18 Kacey i  like playin legit servers now
00:19 jojoa1997 joined #minetest
00:19 RealBadAngel Kacey, whats wrong with your batboxes?
00:19 Kacey idk they aren't charging
00:20 RealBadAngel lv mv?
00:20 Kacey lv
00:23 RealBadAngel current technic git works without any problems
00:23 RealBadAngel please try to reinstall technic
00:24 jojoa1997 does anyone know what sapier's mobf licens is or where i can find it?
00:26 VanessaE jojoa1997: it should be in the first post
00:26 jojoa1997 lol i jut found it
00:27 jojoa1997 how do i log in to freenode with a registered name.i just registered it.
00:27 Kacey updated
00:27 Kacey still not charging...
00:27 Kacey take that back
00:27 Kacey one is charging
00:29 jojoa1997 how do i login with a registered nick?
00:30 Kacey /msg NickServ identify <password>
00:30 jojoa1997 ?
00:30 jojoa1997 i login using the browser
00:31 Kacey plastic sheets dont make a tube with technic installed?
00:31 Kacey still works using /msg NickServ identify <password>
00:32 VanessaE jojoa1997: y u no play my server no more? :'(
00:33 jojoa1997 i havent played minetest in a week
00:33 jojoa1997 except for a couple of minutes here and there
00:33 jojoa1997 and right now i am starting my pokemon mod
00:37 Kacey DIAMONDS!!!!!
00:37 jordan4ibanez Hellaflush http://i.imgur.com/KLaADGq.jpg
00:37 jojoa1997 is your server up now?
00:37 jojoa1997 VanessaE: ^^^
00:38 VanessaE yes, up as usual
00:38 jojoa1997 ok i will go on later
00:45 * Kacey found alot of diamonds ^_^
00:46 Kacey 18 mithril..
00:47 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: I think there is a auth to services checkbox
00:53 Kacey ...
00:53 Kacey stupid rubber tree
00:54 jordan4ibanez The transformation is complete! http://i.imgur.com/PjfEiGS.jpg
00:55 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: what's with the wheels?
00:55 Kacey only one bat. box is charging
00:55 jordan4ibanez It's called supercamber!
00:56 VanessaE that' sone hell of a camber setting.
01:01 jordan4ibanez Hell yea, I have to create another version with inverse camber now :3
01:01 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Change default settings for log level, texture atlas, document new settings 7caa28a6aa 2013-02-27T16:59:05-08:00 http://git.io/0lnR7w
01:01 * Kacey wants to kill that bot
01:02 VanessaE no, those messages are too useful
01:02 VanessaE THAT is the sort of thing that belongs here
01:03 Kacey true
01:10 ShadowNinja that is usefull, saying hi, welcome back, etc are not
01:11 Exio hi MinetestBot
01:11 MinetestBot Hey Exio!
01:11 Exio :D
01:11 Exio hehe :P
01:13 VanessaE agreed, ShadowNinja.
01:14 hmmmm list of things to add right after release:  facedir, formspec [ ] escape codes, what else?
01:15 NekoGloop|Laptop Why not get facedir working then add that to 0.4.5 or whatever number we're on?
01:16 hmmmm because the feature freeze is already in effect, nothing new has been added or will be since monday
01:16 hmmmm we need to make sure no new bugs will be introduced whatsoever
01:16 hmmmm potentially thousands of people are going to be using this
01:16 VanessaE hmmmm: can't think of anything right now that isn't better directed at minetest_game
01:16 NekoGloop|Laptop more like everyone...
01:17 ShadowNinja why hasn't the lua api for particles been merged yet?
01:17 VanessaE hmmmm: wait, idea..  make the loading screen display a % progress even while loading stuff from the cache
01:17 NekoGloop|Laptop why haven't you shut up yet?
01:17 VanessaE that shouldn't be too hard?
01:17 NekoGloop|Laptop Why the hell was the % cut anyway...
01:18 hmmmm vanessa, sure i guess, i'll look into that
01:18 * mauvebic hands out beers
01:18 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: damned if I know.  I mean, it works fine if you're loading new data, but seeing it hang at xx % then suddenly jump to 90...looks weird
01:18 jin_xi cheers
01:18 hmmmm the majority of this channel is underage
01:18 VanessaE some people think it's locked up when it does that
01:19 NekoGloop|Laptop I'm underage but damned if I care. Give me one.
01:19 mauvebic being underage never stopped most western kids from drinkin' lol
01:19 VanessaE I'll take a Mike's Hard Lemonade if you got it
01:19 VanessaE ;)
01:19 mauvebic i dont know about customs elsewhere
01:22 mauvebic man goes to the doctor, doctor gives him six months to live, the man couldn't pay so he gave him another six months :P
01:23 VanessaE hahh
01:23 hmmmm what do you guys think about these bars?  http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#Bars
01:24 hmmmm this is how i want to do hp, armor, breath, hunger, and XP bars
01:24 hmmmm all defined in lua
01:24 VanessaE hmmmm: works for me.
01:25 mauvebic could they be used/accessed from formspecs?
01:25 hmmmm no idea
01:25 hmmmm i guess it's possible
01:25 mauvebic well sortof like how inv's are portable (dont know if im makin' sense lol)
01:26 mauvebic so you could make your own bar in a formspec (lota mods do this already) or reference one hte players'
01:26 mauvebic *one of the
01:26 hmmmm i'm sure i can just add an attribute to "show in formspec" or whatever
01:26 mauvebic coolness
01:27 NekoGloop|Laptop hmmmm: HP in the upper left corner, armor under that, hunger next to HP, breath under hunger, XP in the upper right
01:27 hmmmm well
01:27 hmmmm that can be up to you
01:27 VanessaE hmmmm: I'm looking at that page,..
01:28 mauvebic whats XP exactly ? places/digs/crafts?
01:28 VanessaE how does the Voxel Area Entities differ from what RBA's doing in his frames objects in Technic?
01:28 VanessaE (they move as a group)
01:28 hmmmm never saw it, but whatever it is, it's Lua
01:28 hmmmm this would be part of the core
01:28 VanessaE that's what I thought
01:28 NekoGloop|Laptop mauvebic: XP would be from mining ores i do believe; the rarer the ore the more XP.
01:28 hmmmm these things would be distinct from the map
01:28 hmmmm XP would be from killing mobs too
01:29 hmmmm and cooking things in furnaces
01:29 NekoGloop|Laptop Can I make a suggestion, and be taken seriously?
01:29 hmmmm nope
01:29 NekoGloop|Laptop ...
01:30 jordan4ibanez I say no
01:30 VanessaE what, neko?
01:30 jordan4ibanez Who is Neko you speak of?
01:30 NekoGloop|Laptop We should have XP in categories; Mining XP, Cooking XP, Hunting (mob killing) XP...
01:30 hmmmm well we can have whatever you'd like, which is the point why it'd be in Lua
01:30 VanessaE hrm
01:31 VanessaE I guess it'll be generic enough to be anythign you want
01:31 NekoGloop|Laptop Perhaps having more XP in one area makes it better?
01:31 VanessaE amount of white paint on your house walls, if you want
01:31 hmmmm if you want a mod where it'll do that, then make one on your own
01:31 NekoGloop|Laptop (this would likely need some support in core, which is why I'm saying it)
01:31 hmmmm not really
01:31 hmmmm this is entirely doable from lua
01:31 NekoGloop|Laptop To make the player dig faster when Mining XP is higher?
01:32 hmmmm sure
01:32 mauvebic yeah id rather define custom bars in lua, can use it for all sorts ofthings beside hp/xp
01:32 NekoGloop|Laptop I'm not arguing that.
01:32 NekoGloop|Laptop I'm asking for support from the core in this.
01:32 NekoGloop|Laptop But it seems I'm getting none.
01:33 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: give it time :)
01:33 hmmmm you're misunderstanding
01:33 NekoGloop|Laptop Eventually I'd like to be able to specify a multiplier for player abilities like digging/combat/etc.
01:33 hmmmm what the bars api is, is simply a way to add bars of any texture you desire from within lua
01:33 hmmmm what the bars are for, are totally up to you, the modder
01:34 NekoGloop|Laptop hmmmm: This is unrelated (though the bars would be useful)
01:34 hmmmm you can make a bar for amount of white paint in your kitchen
01:34 hmmmm digging speed can be controlled from within lua
01:34 hmmmm so i dunno what you mean there
01:34 NekoGloop|Laptop By redefining every tool millions of times?
01:35 hmmmm doesn't need to be 'millions'
01:35 hmmmm just every time they hit a new level of digging
01:35 NekoGloop|Laptop But I want the player to get up to whatever level they want.
01:36 Exio hmmmm: talking about.. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/509 / https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/385 / https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/388 ?
01:37 Exio talking about that..*
01:37 hmmmm things that are looking good?
01:37 hmmmm i don't know what the consensus is on those
01:37 hmmmm as for the per-player physics... that's simpler said than done
01:37 NekoGloop|Laptop The second one should be added
01:38 Exio hmmmm: in lua?
01:38 NekoGloop|Laptop After all, you can't bitch about doing the code when Jeija's done it for you.
01:38 Exio hahaha
01:39 Exio i don't see any "why not", in any case the settings can be disabled
01:39 NekoGloop|Laptop ANYWAY. So the only thing we need to wait for in 0.4.5 is bugfixes?
01:40 hmmmm yep
01:40 NekoGloop|Laptop So I'm finally getting my 0.4.5?
01:40 hmmmm yepp
01:40 NekoGloop|Laptop Sweet.
01:40 NekoGloop|Laptop You should keep a complete list of changes/additions to the lua api, btw.
01:41 mauvebic isnt there (already) a changelog?
01:41 Exio talking about that, any short list between the 'big' changes between 0.4.4 and the new 0.4.5?
01:41 NekoGloop|Laptop not one just for the lua api though
01:41 NekoGloop|Laptop Like a "devfield changelog"
01:41 mauvebic ah well dispersing the info isn't gonna make it easier to find :p
01:41 hmmmm i am going to need to work on a changelog
01:42 NekoGloop|Laptop Well we could have a big changelog then we could have the lua changelog.
01:43 mauvebic well for me so long as it isn't vague i can find my way around lol
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01:45 mauvebic pyqt, pygtk or wxpython?
01:45 Exio why python? ;)
01:46 Vadtec python ftw
01:46 Vadtec sup peeps
01:46 JesseH Lua ftw
01:46 JesseH sup Vadtec :D
01:46 * VanessaE grumbles
01:46 * JesseH burps and rubs his belly.
01:47 Vadtec i wish i had the time to add a python interface to mt
01:47 VanessaE hungry and too tired to go upstairs to eat
01:47 mauvebic python... less powerful than cpp (obviously lol) but easier for me to get the syntax
01:47 mauvebic just hate versions and includes lol
01:47 JesseH Vadtec, Let me know when you do, I might can help.
01:47 JesseH Isn't going to help speed any ;)
01:47 Vadtec python is not less powerful than C++
01:47 Vadtec its only "slower" because its not a byte compiled lang
01:48 Exio a byte compiled? what?
01:48 Vadtec in fact, python has more "high level" ready to use libs than C++ does
01:48 mauvebic im guessing that means not compiled to bytecode like say java?
01:48 Vadtec Exio: its not compiled to native machine code
01:48 mauvebic yeah when the libs load and work its terrific lol
01:48 Exio k, i through you said to bytecode
01:48 mauvebic though i spend more time resolving versions and libs than writing python
01:49 JesseH Oh yeah, python has a ... _shit ton_ of libs
01:49 Vadtec mauvebic: then you are doing it wrong
01:49 Exio and their performance is _shit_ too
01:49 mauvebic and some libs only work with x version, etc. etc. lol
01:49 JesseH I don't see what's wrong with Lua that yall would want to switch though
01:49 Vadtec use pip or easy_install to keep up with libs
01:49 mauvebic well like most people i dont spend all my time doing solely python lol
01:49 Exio if i need a high level language
01:49 Exio i will go to some FP
01:50 JesseH Oh shit, you did two spaces, not a 2 spaced tab? Damn code wont work
01:50 mauvebic lua's fine, for doing shit ingame lol
01:50 JesseH Yep
01:50 mauvebic if i wrote it in python its an outside-game thing
01:50 shadowjay1 joined #minetest
01:50 Kacey back
01:50 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey!
01:50 Kacey NO!!!!!
01:50 Exio hahahah
01:50 JesseH !
01:51 Kacey *flop* JesseH lol
01:51 JesseH DO ET
01:51 Vadtec obviously the python haters are out, and im not really interested debating the merrits of python, so whatever, people that python is shit havent invested enough time in it to learn otherwise
01:51 JesseH Then stop bring that shit up then :P
01:51 JesseH I used it a lot, and I dislike it...what then?
01:51 JesseH Jesus dude,
01:51 * JesseH starts ##bitching_about_life
01:52 JesseH love you all
01:52 mauvebic lol dont take it personally, i dont make a religion out of any language/OS/oss isue
01:52 JesseH Yeah!
01:52 JesseH make a religion out of important stuff
01:52 Vadtec ive made as much money programming in python as i have C/C++, so im pretty sure i know how they compare
01:52 Vadtec anyways
01:52 JesseH anyways
01:52 mauvebic im talking from a casual perspective, which is what were all doing here :p
01:52 JesseH I don't like this love-hate relationship we have
01:52 Vadtec maybe someday ill be able to add a python interface to mt
01:52 Exio Vadtec: i prefer performance, i'm not rich for buying a datacenter for running a python test :)
01:53 JesseH huehuehue
01:53 Vadtec Exio: if you need a datacetner for a python test you are doing it wrong, but thats just my experience talking
01:53 mauvebic ive never honestly gotten language politics, yeah there are languages i hate, but that doesn't negate the people who know how to use 'em
01:53 Exio Vadtec: frets on fire
01:53 JesseH no ones in my channel D:
01:53 Exio Vadtec: python game
01:53 Exio Vadtec: try to run it in a netbook
01:53 bas080 joined #minetest
01:55 Exio python as language for testing some small things
01:55 Vadtec now you are comparing a dc to a netbook? O.o interesting
01:55 ttk2 joined #minetest
01:56 Exio Vadtec: in what computer are you on?
01:56 JesseH inb4 he says mac
01:58 Exio he probably has a high-end cpu
01:58 Exio and the price of the entire cpu is >1500 USD
01:58 Vadtec this machine happens to be win7 (for skyrim), but i also have an ubuntu box and an ubuntu VM running on this box
01:59 JesseH embedding python is....more of a pain then with Lua JUST SAYING
01:59 sdzen no using wine for skyrim Vadtec?
01:59 JesseH It could run it most likely
02:00 Vadtec sdzen: sadly, all i have is an ATI card in the *nix box
02:00 Vadtec doesnt run most win games decently at all
02:00 JesseH MEH to you isr
02:00 JesseH sir*
02:00 Vadtec Exio: if you want to know then: my current machine cost less than $1k USD and is: AMD Phenom II X6 @ 3.2Ghz with 16G of ram
02:00 Vadtec but thats hardly a good bench mark
02:01 JesseH good lard
02:01 * JesseH steals Vadtecs machine
02:01 Vadtec my ubuntu box is an old AMD something or other 4 core with 8G of ram
02:01 JesseH ?
02:01 JesseH You feel like donating that piece of junk?
02:01 Kacey i have an acer aspire one lol
02:02 JesseH xD I just upgraded to a latitude e5500
02:02 JesseH from the one
02:02 Exio my old pc has an amd duron at 900 mhz, then the AAO (intel atom n270) and now since 2 weeks the x6
02:02 JesseH Before the aspire...whats the altair 8800
02:02 Vadtec JesseH: not only is it beastly CPU wise, it also has dual 120mm case fans with a radiator cooled CPU and RAM block
02:02 Vadtec i can run this thing full tilt and it barely gets hot
02:02 Vadtec and i have
02:02 JesseH heh, ....
02:03 Vadtec never gotten it above about 35C
02:03 * JesseH becomes best friends with Vadtec
02:03 * Kacey likes his acer
02:03 JesseH Vadtec, I think we should move in together :3
02:04 JesseH Not that you are wealthy and I want your cash, but because you are a good person.
02:04 JesseH :)
02:04 Vadtec JesseH: my gf and kids might disagree
02:04 * Vadtec nods
02:04 * Kacey needs an upgrade to his dell...
02:04 * sdzen starts writing JesseH x Vadtec fanfic's
02:04 sdzen :)
02:04 JesseH Kacey, I have a box here if you want it xD
02:05 JesseH a whopping 1 gb of ram
02:05 Kacey jus tneed RAM
02:05 Vadtec JesseH: you give me a price point and two weeks and i will piece together a system thats as beastly as possible within that price point, not counting shipping costs
02:05 JesseH 80 gb harddrive
02:05 telek Better than the 384 I'm running :)
02:05 JesseH Vadtec, Hows, 10$?
02:05 Kacey my acer has better specs than that box
02:05 JesseH telek, You saint D:
02:05 Kacey my acer has 1 gb RAM
02:06 JesseH better processor to
02:06 Kacey my dell doesnt even have 1 gb
02:06 JesseH minecraft runs better on a aspire one then this comp
02:06 JesseH xD
02:06 Kacey lol
02:06 JesseH I could run the hello world program with python
02:06 JesseH anything else would cause a meltdown
02:06 telek JesseH: You should see my diaup router :D  P100 with  64 megs of SDRAM (Sticks are actually bigger, but thewrong dimensions so that's the most it'll address :D)
02:06 Kacey put xubuntu on an aspire one and HEAVEN!!!!!!!
02:06 JesseH Yes
02:06 JesseH xfce
02:07 JesseH bowss
02:07 sdzen crunchbang ftw
02:07 Vadtec JesseH: for $10 id go dig out my old 486 and blow the dirt out of it for ya
02:07 * JesseH throws fairy dust on sdzen's face
02:07 JesseH Vadtec, sounds like a deal
02:07 * sdzen (is what I would say if I ever used crunchbang)
02:07 Vadtec complete with dos 6.2 and win3.11
02:08 JesseH Ill put unix on it most likely
02:08 JesseH one of the small free ones
02:08 JesseH :P
02:08 sdzen throw in a floppy and you haves a deal
02:08 sdzen :)
02:08 JesseH No really, I want it
02:08 JesseH how much
02:09 JesseH gimme
02:09 Vadtec haha, sadly for you, i still actually play classic DOS games on the (war craft, star craft, Fantasy Empires, Xcom, etc etc)
02:09 telek JesseH: None of them are small nymore :/
02:10 Vadtec thing runs like a champ
02:10 Vadtec and honestly
02:10 Vadtec i doubt any modern *nix would run on it
02:10 telek Ran into that setting up the dialup router.
02:10 Vadtec its a 486 w/64MB of ram
02:10 JesseH thats plenty
02:10 Vadtec and a 20MB HD
02:10 JesseH will it run doom 1?
02:10 Vadtec ofc
02:10 Vadtec of course*
02:10 JesseH alright then what are you whining for!
02:10 JesseH GIMME
02:10 NekoGloop|Laptop What's a good free screen recorder?
02:11 sdzen fraps trial!
02:11 NekoGloop|Laptop Ew no
02:11 sdzen :)
02:11 sdzen they all suck nekogloop
02:11 NekoGloop|Laptop fraps is bad and you should feel bad
02:11 sdzen take your pick
02:11 JesseH taking a picture, and moving the mouse just a little bit each frame
02:16 Kacey ... lag on my own server
02:16 sdzen good you should have lag unless you are connecting locally
02:17 Kacey i am running the serer off of the same computer...
02:17 sdzen what are you connecting from though?
02:17 sdzen 192.168.1.101?
02:17 sdzen or the IP
02:17 sdzen external IP i mean
02:18 sdzen or whatever you call it
02:18 Kacey i connected to 127.0.0.1
02:18 Vadtec JesseH: nope, its MINE
02:18 sdzen then that is odd
02:18 sdzen I would offer you a tandy but it got thrown out
02:19 Kacey ?
02:19 sdzen not talking to you Kacey :)
02:19 Kacey aah
02:20 telek Vadtec: They will, if it's got at least 64megs of ram.
02:20 Oblivion1500 Ew what the heck are you guys talking about
02:20 sdzen we are talking about the latest most powerful computers of 2013
02:21 Oblivion1500 least powerful?
02:21 Vadtec Oblivion1500: most powerful
02:21 Kacey asus
02:21 Kacey my grandparents asus
02:21 Kacey would kick ass if i put linux on it
02:22 Oblivion1500 the new computer for the Amish?
02:22 * Vadtec has an Asus Transformer and wants to get a Transformer Prime
02:22 Vadtec bad ass little machines
02:22 Vadtec i do a lot of my dev work on my Transformer
02:22 Oblivion1500 ohhh your talking about the tablet now, i saw dial up modem.
02:24 Kacey how do i make digilines?
02:24 ShadowNinja joined #minetest
02:25 Kacey ah ShadowNinja i need to know how to make digilines
02:26 Vadtec Kacey: doesnt that require mating two digimon or some weird shit like that?
02:26 Kacey no
02:27 sdzen digital lines......
02:27 sdzen graphing x=3?
02:27 sdzen gives a very nice line
02:28 ShadowNinja Kacey: you mean crafting?
02:28 Vadtec lol
02:33 Kacey yes
02:37 Kacey NekoGloop|Laptop, are you KittenScrap on MC?
02:37 NekoGloop|Laptop No, I'm GloopMaster
02:38 Kacey aah
02:38 Kacey have you seen the MC marathon for charity going on?
02:41 ShadowNinja Kacey: afaik there is none, however on menche's server you cook a mesecon
02:43 Kacey k
02:43 Kacey have to make one then
02:44 mauvebic mc marathon, how that work?
02:45 Kacey idk
02:45 Kacey night all
02:45 sdzen its when everyone in MC gets out of bed and runs from one map end to another
02:46 sdzen to prevent NPC obesity
02:50 NekoGloop|Laptop #minecraft is the biggest pile of dicks I've ever seen
02:50 sdzen odd Nekogloop
02:50 sdzen no more love for them?
02:50 sdzen :)
02:51 sdzen I remember that you turned to the dark side
02:51 NekoGloop|Laptop Now that I'm banned due to people's preferences yet again?
02:51 NekoGloop|Laptop I wanna have a "friendly" chat with Gambit. Where is he?
02:52 sdzen face it nekogloop you are only tolerated by us at #minetest :)
02:52 sdzen all others don't understand you
02:52 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, Time for another channel for me to bother :P
02:52 * JesseH joins #minecraft
02:52 NekoGloop|Laptop You'll only be banned too.
02:52 JesseH xD
02:52 JesseH banned from #ubuntu to..oh well
02:53 NekoGloop|Laptop After all, the ops WILL ban you if you so much as breathe.
02:53 JesseH What should I say?
02:53 JesseH Ask why minecraft is written in Java?
02:53 sdzen what is a voxel
02:53 sdzen :P
02:54 JesseH xD
02:54 NekoGloop|Laptop Ask why having a certain nick is bannable when I'm not being profane or impersonating anyone with it?
02:56 sdzen hmmmm
02:57 sdzen should I be perverse in #minecraft ?
02:57 sdzen shite!
02:57 sdzen he is in #minetest
02:57 sdzen sorry hmmmm
02:57 NekoGloop|Laptop I'll bet they won't ban you for that, sdzen...
02:58 JesseH "I use you as lube"
02:58 NekoGloop|Laptop The real reason I'm banned is more likely because they looked at the channels I was on and saw I was on #minetest.
02:58 sdzen I would only be asking "on a scale of 1 to Wha-ha! how fappable is minecraft?"
02:58 NekoGloop|Laptop What kind of shitty IRC client widens the user bar to the largest nick anyway...
02:59 khonkhortisan you should have a horizontal scrollbar
02:59 NekoGloop|Laptop ikr
03:00 khonkhortisan How polished should a mesecon machine be before release?
03:01 JesseH oh god
03:01 JesseH weve lost this
03:01 NekoGloop|Laptop JesseH: Did you get banned?
03:01 JesseH nah
03:01 JesseH I agree with them :(
03:01 JesseH Sorry mates
03:01 NekoGloop|Laptop What?
03:01 sdzen oh no!
03:01 NekoGloop|Laptop Agree with them on what?
03:01 sdzen more like they agree with you
03:01 sdzen but...
03:01 JesseH D:
03:01 khonkhortisan -and how do I add a default spawn point?
03:02 JesseH vanilla MT needs to be better!
03:02 NekoGloop|Laptop khonkhortisan: you can't
03:02 * JesseH pulls out editor
03:02 khonkhortisan We're working on that
03:02 * JesseH sends shit tons of pull requests
03:02 khonkhortisan yay!
03:02 JesseH :P
03:02 NekoGloop|Laptop JesseH: please tell me what the hell you're talking about
03:02 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, once upon a time
03:02 JesseH brb gotta do number 2 :)
03:02 JesseH on my worksheet for school ofc!
03:02 khonkhortisan meh, my connect four is good enough
03:03 sdzen default spawn point?
03:03 sdzen isnt there a conf option?
03:03 khonkhortisan yes, I built something in the sky
03:03 khonkhortisan I'm looking for a world option
03:03 sdzen If you know how to do world specific mods.....
03:04 sdzen I have a little something something to help with said predicament
03:04 khonkhortisan My attempt at world-specific stuff: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/issues/3
03:05 khonkhortisan I'll just tell people to /teleport
03:15 ShadowNinja VanessaE: can you please update your server?
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03:38 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: pls
03:39 NekoGloop|Laptop Hm?
03:41 NekoGloop|Laptop As if you even want to talk to me anyway.
03:41 NekoGloop|Laptop After all, you just see me as a plaything. Same as the rest of the world.
03:42 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, I love you
03:42 JesseH :3
03:42 NekoGloop|Laptop You're lying.
03:44 NekoGloop|Laptop Gambit: though, it may be in your best interests to tell your ops to not ban based on personal preference.
03:44 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, forgot about your issue
03:45 JesseH Should I ask?
03:45 JesseH why you were banned
03:45 NekoGloop|Laptop Oh I know
03:45 NekoGloop|Laptop It's because aperson didn't like my nick (which, btw, was the one I have currently)
03:46 NekoGloop|Laptop Y'know what, if I EVER see a person from #minecraft on a minecraft server? Screw any non-pvp rules.
03:47 JesseH They said your nick was too long
03:47 khonkhortisan that's a rediculous rule.
03:47 JesseH I was going to say something
03:47 JesseH about my....
03:47 JesseH yes
03:47 khonkhortisan Block long names in software, or allow it.
03:47 khonkhortisan Don't try to change something that's already been set
03:47 NekoGloop|Laptop Gambit: ^
03:48 NekoGloop|Laptop Please relay all of that to aperson.
03:48 khonkhortisan Better yet, make a bot to kick everyone for "name length exceeds x characters"
03:48 JesseHTheGreates So stupid
03:48 JesseHTheGreates :P
03:48 JesseHTheGreates banned :d
03:48 khonkhortisan You can't go longer than freenode lets you, that's good enough
03:49 JesseH That is the stupidest shit I've ever heard of in my life.
03:49 JesseH I bet those troll admins love themselves :P
03:50 JesseH oh look guys, lets ban this guy for too long of a nick
03:50 NekoGloop|Laptop JesseH: Talk to Gambit; he's one of them.
03:50 JesseH and this one, for asking why they are trolling
03:50 khonkhortisan If there was swearing on the part of mr. longname, they'd both be in the wrong.
03:50 Gambit It's my opinion that NekoGloop|Laptop's ban was silly.
03:50 Gambit But JesseH, you totally deserved yours.
03:50 JesseH aperson said something like. ... "cocky bitch"
03:50 JesseH Gambit, lol ok :P
03:51 NekoGloop|Laptop He probably assumed NekoGloop == JesseH
03:51 JesseH shall I hastebin what was said?
03:51 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: No he was intentionally trolling aperson.
03:51 khonkhortisan Maybe I should go on there and lurk
03:51 NekoGloop|Laptop Go figure, seeing as all minecrafters hate minetesters.
03:51 JesseH Gambit, ok fine. I will copy pasta
03:51 JesseH shit
03:51 JesseH I can't not on the channel
03:51 JesseH sdzen,
03:51 khonkhortisan isn't there a channel log?
03:51 NekoGloop|Laptop pastebin.com
03:51 JesseH oh wait
03:52 JesseH Yep cant get back on once I closed it :P
03:52 NekoGloop|Laptop khonkhortisan: not for #MC, iirc. conviently.
03:52 * khonkhortisan clicked that link thinking there was a paste there
03:52 JesseH xD
03:52 NekoGloop|Laptop Also hexchat users can haxxor files to see the logs
03:52 JesseH I am using xchat
03:52 khonkhortisan me thoo
03:52 khonkhortisan *too
03:52 khonkhortisan lithp
03:53 JesseH Gambit, how about you hastebin the log? :D
03:53 JesseH I don't like to be lied on
03:53 JesseH It's not nice!
03:53 NekoGloop|Laptop Gambit doesn't care.
03:53 Gambit 02-27 22:47:54| <-> JesseH is now known as JesseHTheGreates
03:53 Gambit 02-27 22:47:58| <JesseHTheGreates> I will get banned?
03:53 Gambit 02-27 22:48:09| <JesseHTheGreates> ban away :P see you guys later
03:53 Gambit 02-27 22:48:14| <JesseHTheGreates> once you make better rules
03:53 JesseH before that
03:53 JesseH keep going
03:53 JesseH I said moar
03:54 NekoGloop|Laptop See? Speaking only part of the truth.
03:54 JesseH :P I was probably in the wrong
03:54 JesseH Oh well
03:54 JesseH banned from #minecraft
03:54 NekoGloop|Laptop Well, that would be my second ban from #minecraft.
03:55 JesseH I enjoy the cracked client
03:55 JesseH Never had to buy MC in my life
03:55 NekoGloop|Laptop Both for stupid reasons.
03:55 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, It's all good. :P You still have #minetest
03:55 khonkhortisan what's easier, cracking or modding?
03:56 JesseH never personally did either
03:56 NekoGloop|Laptop cracking requires making a new client while modding you just need to unobfusf-whatsit the files
03:56 khonkhortisan I've only done one
03:56 khonkhortisan unobfuscate? yuck.
03:57 khonkhortisan that's way past reverse compiling
03:58 * khonkhortisan is homophobic, and cannot comply with #minecraft's rules due to discrimination.
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03:59 JesseH oops
03:59 khonkhortisan Yes, we saw your quit message.
03:59 JesseH dang
03:59 JesseH I should change that
03:59 telek :D
03:59 * NekoGloop|Laptop whacks khonkhortisan on the back of the head with a hammer
03:59 JesseH I was at a low point :P
04:04 sdzen hmmm I would write a suicide note at a high point
04:05 sdzen then act on it before the low comes :)
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04:05 khonkhortisan whether you believe in creationism or evolution, neither supports gayness.
04:06 JesseH hue hue hue
04:06 NekoGloop|Laptop How about the randomness of the human genome?
04:07 khonkhortisan eh, what do you mean?
04:07 khonkhortisan coding vs non-coding?
04:07 NekoGloop|Laptop Every person is different
04:08 JesseH feelings
04:08 khonkhortisan Yes, and your dna is different in different parts of your body.
04:08 NekoGloop|Laptop In order for this to be true, certain values that would not otherwise be set, are set.
04:08 khonkhortisan Your liver has extra copies of a certain section for a fast response
04:09 khonkhortisan and genes that you do have can be turned on and off
04:09 JesseH How high do you have to fall to die?
04:10 JesseH Just wondering
04:10 NekoGloop|Laptop Depends on how you hit your body
04:10 khonkhortisan Gambit has just discriminated against the straight. Excommunicate him!
04:10 mauvebic evolution supports gayness, in more than just humans, and as for the church, with the amount of money they must spend on lawsuits, they must support it too to a certain point, otherwise they'd sack /defrock them
04:11 NekoGloop|Laptop But fool-proof heights are generally 50-70 km high
04:11 khonkhortisan http://hastebin.com/seduroloju.xml
04:11 JesseH I was thinking like 50 ft :P
04:11 JesseH on concrete
04:11 khonkhortisan I completely don't understand that ban.
04:12 khonkhortisan He _wants_ to ban people
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04:12 Gambit 02-27 23:00:14| <Gambit> khonkhortisan: If I see any homophobia from you here I will ban you myself.
04:12 Gambit 02-27 23:03:50| <khonkhortisan> Yes, I meant extremely pro-gay and extremely pro-straight are both bad
04:12 khonkhortisan You have gone to an extreme in banning me.
04:13 JesseH Why so mad Gambit ?
04:13 khonkhortisan Extremity is bad.
04:13 Gambit lol you think there's an "extremely pro-gay"
04:13 khonkhortisan You fail to see this.
04:13 Gambit lol you think straight people can face discrimination
04:13 khonkhortisan I just did.
04:13 Gambit lol you're a failure of a troll
04:13 JesseH I tried to take up for the dude, you are one interesting cookie :P
04:13 khonkhortisan a straight person can get beat up same as a gay person can, discrimination either way
04:13 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: Just for your own information, I thought your ban was silly and stood up for you.
04:14 Gambit These other two will stay banned.
04:14 JesseH I call bs :P
04:14 Gambit JesseH for being a pirate
04:14 NekoGloop|Laptop All in favor of banning khon here say aye
04:14 Gambit khonkhortisan for being a homophobe
04:14 mauvebic straight people dont get beat up for being straight
04:14 khonkhortisan you lie
04:14 JesseH Gambit, oh yeah! a ban worth being banned for
04:14 JesseH I'm a fucking pirate
04:14 JesseH suck it will turner
04:14 khonkhortisan that's not the reason you gave for a ban
04:14 khonkhortisan the reason was about extremity
04:14 khonkhortisan you took something I said on this channel
04:14 NekoGloop|Laptop The reason is that you're a horrible person
04:15 mauvebic where are you from exactly?
04:15 NekoGloop|Laptop That's just what it says. We weren't even testing for that.
04:15 khonkhortisan Did I say everyone should be homophobe? Did I say everyone should be homophile? No.
04:15 JesseH If you work, to get people banned at all...well then...that is pretty sad.
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04:15 NekoGloop|Laptop Honestly the only reason Gambit wasn't banned for mentioning me was because he's an op on the channel
04:16 khonkhortisan You have admitted to banning me based on my beliefs, not based on what I said.
04:16 JesseH :P I don't hate the dude like he does me, but I wonder what makes him so mad.
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04:16 khonkhortisan That's the exact same as banning someone for thinking it's not wrong to be gay.
04:16 JesseH One of those, official trolls I guess :P
04:16 khonkhortisan I'm very disappointed in you Gambit.
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04:17 khonkhortisan I was just going to watch the channel like I do with #emacs
04:17 khonkhortisan I'm a vi user and have caused no trouble there
04:17 NekoGloop|Laptop khon, shut up before you get banned here
04:17 JesseH :P
04:17 mauvebic beliefs lol
04:17 JesseH What I'm saying
04:17 JesseH IRC is a warzone
04:17 mauvebic the new fad is to claim religious discrimination when you're not allowed to discriminate yourself lol
04:17 khonkhortisan banned for beliefs, complaining about a ban, what's the difference?
04:17 JesseH best to just...be the guy who hides in the basement
04:18 * khonkhortisan out
04:18 JesseH peace
04:18 JesseH I support you
04:19 NekoGloop|Laptop Gambit, If it makes you feel better, just ban NekoGloop|Laptop@*/*, NekoGloop|meow@*/*, and NekoGloop|lol@*/*
04:19 sokomine but you have to build your own basement :-)
04:19 * sokomine hands a pick to jesseh
04:19 JesseH sokomine, I need an IP first :p
04:19 sokomine who's banning whom? and why?
04:20 mauvebic not sure lol
04:20 JesseH sokomine, his nickname is too long :P
04:20 NekoGloop|Laptop sokomine, #MC ops are banning everyone because they want to
04:20 JesseH Somebodys jealous
04:20 sokomine ah. severe crime :-)
04:20 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: As someone who uses the "|Laptop" convention, I find your ban to be bullshit
04:20 sokomine so whoever said that ought to give him a pc. that would be shorter
04:20 JesseH Should have made an extenze joke
04:20 NekoGloop|Laptop Gambit: IMO anything aperson does is bullshit but that's just me
04:21 Gambit Nah.
04:21 mauvebic why put laptop, its not like the same person can be using more than one computer at once on any given chat lol
04:21 NekoGloop|Laptop mauvebic, technically I could
04:21 JesseH mauvebic, What if you have one machine idling, and you are away on a phone or something?
04:21 NekoGloop|Laptop Though my other computer has turned into a server of sorts.
04:21 sokomine or was there more? i don't think #minecraft will be much diffrent from this (or any other) channel. except maybe more users...which may lead to more complications
04:22 Gambit mauvebic: Yeah that's when I use it.
04:22 sokomine phone might be short enough :-)
04:22 NekoGloop|Laptop sokomine, perhaps that aperson remembers I was banned before and thought I was ban-evading on top of it?
04:22 Gambit When I'm logged in twice.
04:22 JesseH I for some reason, am the devil.
04:22 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: It was mostly that you were already "on thin ice" and he didn't like your reaction
04:22 JesseH Or whatever
04:22 sokomine hm. sounds strange. where you banned before? did you talk to that person?
04:22 NekoGloop|Laptop It doesn't matter
04:22 JesseH Gambit, Does aperson get banned for calling me a "cocky bitch"?
04:23 Gambit NekoGloop|Laptop: You'll probably get unbanned at a later date.
04:23 NekoGloop|Laptop The world never has any mercy.
04:23 JesseH NekoGloop|Laptop, undernet...#depression
04:23 JesseH lets go
04:23 JesseH :P
04:23 mauvebic banned for what exactly? all i saw was religion politics and a bunch of other crap
04:23 JesseH We were griefing the channel, idk
04:23 mauvebic mature
04:23 NekoGloop|Laptop mauvebic, current ban is because nick too long. previous was because I mentioned a crack that NO LONGER WORKED, BTW.
04:24 JesseH apersons brain has a chunk loading issue
04:24 JesseH I am making MC jokes :P
04:24 JesseH bad ones I know :(
04:24 sokomine adapt them for mt and tell them here (well, at least the good ones)
04:24 JesseH um havent played enough :P
04:24 JesseH Something with less mods...lord
04:25 JesseH too much to download
04:25 NekoGloop|Laptop Dungeon Master says "Have a fireball".
04:25 JesseH You must roll first
04:25 NekoGloop|Laptop Keep your D&D crap outta my 0.3.1 references.
04:25 JesseH :(
04:25 JesseH I hate D&D
04:26 JesseH gurps is alright
04:27 * NekoGloop|Laptop punts a kitten in the general direction of Gambit
04:27 NekoGloop|Laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvRRQvrwvmk
04:29 NekoGloop|Laptop Heh... This is the stuff I post normally. I wonder what I'd scrounge up when I'm actually angry.
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04:40 Oblivion1500 hey just wondering what the best chmod permissions for a website are?
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04:46 WiredOnLinux hello
04:46 MinetestBot hi WiredOnLinux
04:46 WiredOnLinux this is madchicken13 btw
04:46 WiredOnLinux ohh, lol, bot
04:47 sokomine h i
04:47 WiredOnLinux hello sokomine
04:50 mauvebic my wife is learning blender
04:50 MiJyn mauvebic, I thought every woman knew how to use one
04:50 Oblivion1500 lol
04:50 WiredOnLinux lol, blender is amazing, I have modeled alot on blender
04:51 WiredOnLinux haha
04:51 mauvebic my wife? last time she wanted to go on vacation, i told her to try the kitchen :p
04:51 mauvebic naw she's using blender (the confusing UI app)
04:51 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a box full of severed kitten heads down in the channel
04:51 WiredOnLinux :p thats a good why for the silent treatment, lol
04:53 WiredOnLinux mauvebic, blender is quite interesting if you work with if for a few weeks
04:54 Crisco Oblivion1500: on my website I used to do chmod 777 :P
04:54 Crisco but this was before I actually understood what I was doing
04:55 Crisco now I'd say just do 755 if you aren't worried about much
05:00 mauvebic shes alot better at blender than i am lol
05:02 mauvebic funny, she can navigate the blender UI, but cant make dinner without requiring the services of the fire marshall lol :p
05:04 WiredOnLinux Crisco, lol
05:06 WiredOnLinux i have to go, bye everyone
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05:32 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten head on kaeza's head
05:32 kaeza (greeting) good night :)
05:34 NekoGloop|Laptop That would be "good evening"
05:36 avi_ Here's some plots of 1 day and 7 windows of commits that are related to topics found in the issue tracker: http://softwareprocess.es/a/GNflb9Ww/
05:42 kaeza NekoGloop|Laptop, 3:41 AM
05:42 NekoGloop|Laptop Good morning then
05:46 avi_ does anyone here have commits in the minetest_game or minetest repo?
05:54 NekoGloop|Laptop I do. (one)
06:10 jordan4ibanez It took me hours
06:10 jordan4ibanez But I finally completely ruined this version of my falcon
06:10 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/ZSnIgBy.jpg
06:13 VanessaE aw fuck
06:13 VanessaE latest build of MT segfaults at startup.
06:13 VanessaE (server seems okay though)
06:15 avi_ jordan4ibanez: what game?
06:15 jordan4ibanez Rigs of Rods
06:18 jordan4ibanez Goodnight you midget bean trolls :3
06:22 kaeza VanessaE, segfaults?
06:22 VanessaE segmentation fault i.e. crash
06:22 VanessaE I'm tracing the bad commit now.
06:22 kaeza no I mean, when does it segfaults
06:23 VanessaE right at startup
06:23 VanessaE as soon as I launch it.
06:23 kaeza you don't even get to the menu?
06:23 VanessaE nope
06:23 kaeza strange...
06:23 kaeza works fine for me
06:23 kaeza ...or there was another commit?
06:24 VanessaE I'm still testing.
06:25 kaeza ah, I see texture atlas was/is going to be removed
06:26 kaeza and we're having 0.4.5 soon I see
06:27 * kaeza is stalking the #-dev logs :)
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06:46 VanessaE aw for fuck sake how do I set irrlicht's install prefix?
06:59 kaeza is RBA around?
07:00 kaeza RealBadAngel, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/issues/11
07:11 VanessaE there, got it sorted.
07:12 VanessaE some random system update broke irrlicht, so I ripped it out, rebuilt my local irrlicht sources, and pointed MT at it for building. seems good now.
07:16 VanessaE jeez, shitload of changes between irrlicht 1.7.2 and 1.8.  wonder how this'll affect my usage of the game
07:19 kaeza interesting...
07:20 kaeza and I'm waiting for Irrlicht to support moving bones and animating :(
07:20 kaeza Taoki is too.
07:21 kaeza <unrelated>I wish there was an entity.on_collision(thing) callback</unrelated>
07:37 VanessaE wow, Doyousketch2 and some of the others on my server have been busy building out the roads
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11:04 celeron55 < kaeza> Minetest: Y U NO CREATE EPIC MOUNTAINS LIKE -DELTA??
11:04 celeron55 just run 0.3
11:04 celeron55 it
11:05 celeron55 *it's the same mapgen
11:05 kaeza celeron55, been playing it for a while
11:06 kaeza just to see how minetest has developed in this whole time
11:11 celeron55 by the way, a good video about that could be interesting
11:16 kaeza about the progress of the game?
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11:17 kaeza that would be cool to have as "History of Minetest" linked somewhere in the wiki.
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12:37 kaeza OMG netsplit!
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13:36 Kacey hi all
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13:46 markveidemanis Hi!
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13:56 Kacey ...
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15:19 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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15:24 jin_xi Hi Adam
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15:41 RBA|Lasagne hi PilzAdam
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16:06 kaeza whoops, sorry RBA, pressed the wrong button on the Github interface :P
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16:10 PilzAdam There is an update to the carts mod: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73102#p73102
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16:31 rubenwardy hi all
16:34 sfan5 hi rubenwardy
16:34 rubenwardy :P
16:34 rubenwardy how are you?
16:34 sfan5 good, a bit sleepy
16:34 sfan5 +but
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16:54 john_minetest Hello rubenwardy!
16:56 rubenwardy :D
16:58 kaeza hello ruben, john, sfan
16:58 kaeza Calinou, have you read my comment on the intllib topic?
16:59 kaeza also: hi :)
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17:10 MinetestBot GIT: minetest-services commited to minetest/minetest: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' 066b0314b1 2013-02-28T09:04:07-08:00 http://git.io/GfZNBA
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17:51 markveidemanis who knows python
17:51 artur99 hi
17:51 MinetestBot hi artur99
17:51 markveidemanis help...
17:51 markveidemanis hi
17:51 markveidemanis u know python?
17:51 artur99 no, sorry
18:01 kaeza markveidemanis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythonidae
18:01 markveidemanis nvm, i found the solution
18:01 markveidemanis want to be the first to test my game?
18:01 kaeza no :)
18:16 MiJyn *scrolls up to see if I've been pinged*
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18:28 rubenwardy|away brb
18:34 kaeza <kaeza> Calinou, have you read my comment on the intllib topic? <-- Sorry for repeating :/
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18:40 webdesigner97 hi!
18:40 MinetestBot hi webdesigner97
18:49 webdesigner97 ruben?
18:49 webdesigner97 Do you have any idea how to (PHP) check wheter a MT-Server is on?
18:51 rubenwardy np
18:51 rubenwardy no
18:51 rubenwardy http://php.net/manual/en/function.fsockopen.php
18:51 rubenwardy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2226374/test-if-port-open-and-forwarded-using-php
18:52 webdesigner97 hmm, ok. I'll read it... thx
18:52 rubenwardy https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=lx9&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;q=php+check+if+remote+port+is+open&amp;oq=php+check+re+port+open&amp;gs_l=serp.3.0.0i8i7i30.25491.27169.0.29634.9.7.1.0.0.0.106.646.5j2.7.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.serp.92poQdvVKGE
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18:57 webdesigner97 Maybe I could also ask the creator of servers.minetest.ru?
18:58 webdesigner97 but who is it? xyz?
18:59 PilzAdam look at doc/protocol.txt
18:59 PilzAdam (in minetest)
18:59 webdesigner97 ph, yes.. there's an example. I'll try it out :)
18:59 webdesigner97 *oh
18:59 sfan5 it doesn't work
18:59 sfan5 i tested it
19:00 Calinou kaeza: yes
19:00 Calinou oops, no
19:00 sfan5 webdesigner97: the code for !up https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/serverup.py#L61
19:00 Calinou "new posts" thing is wrong :P
19:01 webdesigner97 @sfan: thx. (although i prefer PHP)... but maybe it'll help
19:03 PilzAdam webdesigner97, maybe take the sfan5 's code and merge it together with one in protocol.txt
19:03 webdesigner97 I have touble understanding it :D It's Python isnt't it?
19:03 kaeza Calinou: sometimes I have to visit the posts like five times before they are marked as "read" :P
19:04 thexyz punbb!
19:06 sfan5 webdesigner97: yes
19:10 sfan5 !up minetest.ru
19:10 MinetestBot minetest.ru:30000 is up (0.404ms)
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19:16 sokomine hi
19:16 MinetestBot hi sokomine
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19:16 sokomine hmpf :-( i always fall into that trap set by the bot...
19:22 kaeza sokomine, great work with the traders ;)
19:23 kaeza I mean, random houses
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19:26 STHGOM howe!
19:28 kaeza rubenwardy, what do I need to compile the Nodebox Generator?
19:28 kaeza I mean, libs
19:28 rubenwardy it does not work
19:28 rubenwardy but
19:28 rubenwardy all you need is irrlicht
19:29 kaeza ok, will try to compile
19:31 kaeza ugh, no Makefile >.<
19:31 kaeza are any compiler flags suggested?
19:34 sokomine kaeza: thanks :-)
19:35 sokomine the traders as such (at least the groundwork) has been done by sapier :-) without that modification to the formspecs it wouldn't have been possible
19:35 sokomine the wielditem editor from sapier can also be useful for the creation of nodeboxes
19:35 kaeza oh?
19:35 kaeza link?
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19:37 Deivan Hum...  I have a option to make a mod load after all others?
19:37 rubenwardy no
19:37 Deivan To bad...
19:37 Deivan :-/
19:38 Deivan Ok, thanks.
19:38 rubenwardy I do not know how to do cMake
19:38 rubenwardy Deivan: I was talking to kaeza
19:38 Deivan Ok.
19:38 Deivan :-o
19:38 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2911
19:38 rubenwardy ^ Deivan
19:39 Deivan Roger! Roger!
19:39 kaeza rubenwardy, got it compiling, but failing with unknown function wcstrcat
19:39 kaeza wcstrcat_s
19:39 kaeza *
19:39 Deivan Is it. Thanks.
19:39 Deivan :)
19:39 rubenwardy that might be a windows specific function...
19:40 kaeza rubenwardy, man wcstrcat gives me <wchar.h>
19:40 kaeza gonna try again
19:40 rubenwardy have you created a cmake set up for it?
19:41 kaeza rubenwardy, plain makefile temporarily
19:41 kaeza if it works, I'll make a CMakeLists.txt
19:42 kaeza rubenwardy, rule #1 in portability and good coding practice: ALWAYS RETURN INT FROM MAIN!
19:43 kaeza :P
19:44 kaeza POSIX (or some such standard) says "main must have the signature int main(void) or int main (int argc, char *argv[])"
19:44 sokomine my client keeps crashing a lot today...
19:44 MiJyn right
19:45 PilzAdam thexyz, your win build topic still says "c55/minietest"
19:46 thexyz my builds are *slightly* outdated
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19:46 artur99 markveidemanis, what game?
19:46 kaeza rubenwardy, what is `_TRUNCATE' for?
19:47 rubenwardy ?
19:47 artur99 u asked kaeza if he wants to test your game
19:47 kaeza line 43 of CommonFunctions.cpp
19:47 kaeza mbstowcs(&convertedChars, wcstring, origsize, orig, _TRUNCATE);
19:48 rubenwardy not sure
19:48 kaeza hmm
19:48 rubenwardy wait a sec...
19:49 rubenwardy that function converts from char to wchar_t
19:49 rubenwardy got the code from the internet, and fiddled with it
19:49 kaeza ah nvm, it seems it's unneeded
19:50 rubenwardy kaeza, are you going to work on it?
19:50 rubenwardy I am actually going to start it again.
19:50 kaeza rubenwardy, trying to actually *see* it first :P
19:51 rubenwardy yeah
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19:58 Exio PilzAdam: what stuff did you follow for the cross-builds to windows?
19:58 PilzAdam hm?
19:59 Exio what are you doing for compiling it to windows with gettext, truetype, etc in your linuxbox?
20:00 PilzAdam I basically use the buildbot found in util/buildbot/ and added the extra libaries myself
20:02 kaeza rubenwardy, another tip: never EVER return non-static, non-malloc'ed pointers from functions.
20:02 rubenwardy ?
20:03 kaeza in function convert(), you are returning `wcstring' which is a string possibly allocated in the stack
20:03 kaeza this invites trouble
20:04 rubenwardy wchar_t* you mean
20:04 kaeza yep, but you are returning a pointer to the stack
20:04 kaeza bad mojo
20:05 rubenwardy so wchar_t then
20:05 kaeza either declare `wcstring' as `static' or return a malloc'ed block and have the caller `free' it
20:07 kaeza hrm... I hate function overloading from C++; makes things less clear
20:10 Exio static?
20:10 Exio returning it? and then what?
20:10 Exio that should be avoided as possible, it is not thread-safe and bad-style
20:11 kaeza hrm, I guess you're right
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20:12 jojoa1997 Hello!
20:12 MinetestBot hi jojoa1997
20:12 kaeza testing this way for now
20:12 kaeza hey jojoa1997
20:12 kaeza success!!
20:12 jojoa1997 keaza will you be making an armor texture maker program for armor plus
20:13 jojoa1997 sucess for what?
20:13 kaeza jojoa1997, thought I already uploaded it... my bad
20:13 jojoa1997 oh cool  you did make it
20:14 kaeza rubenwardy, compiled and running
20:14 kaeza now how to use? :P
20:14 rubenwardy I have made it work better noe
20:14 rubenwardy noe
20:14 rubenwardy now
20:14 jojoa1997 do ii have to compile the armor texture maker/
20:14 rubenwardy arrows to rotate
20:14 rubenwardy a / d to resize
20:14 rubenwardy that is as far as I got
20:14 rubenwardy I did not know much c++ then
20:14 kaeza jojoa1997, gimme a min and I'll push to github
20:15 jojoa1997 ok put a link in the forum
20:15 jojoa1997 and . . . do ii have to compile the armor texture maker?
20:15 kaeza jojoa1997, no, it's in python
20:15 kaeza and it's a CLI program
20:16 jojoa1997 i dont know how to run python
20:16 kaeza oh dear
20:16 jojoa1997 oh it is a program like .exe
20:16 kaeza jojoa1997, install python first if running on Windows
20:16 jojoa1997 maybe put instructions on how to run it from the cmd line
20:17 kaeza rubenwardy, how do I "draw" stuff?
20:17 rubenwardy in the menu: node -> add node box
20:17 rubenwardy it does not work yet
20:17 kaeza ah lol, didn't see the menu
20:17 kaeza my vision suxx :(
20:18 kaeza oh :(
20:18 rubenwardy the vision you have is bad, I am just about to commit some changes.
20:19 rubenwardy you will see what I mean when you press A/D to resize
20:19 kaeza ok
20:19 rubenwardy also, you may want some texture, I will add that to the commit as well
20:19 kaeza should I make a pull request for my changes?
20:19 kaeza ah
20:19 kaeza just the default dirt from minetest
20:20 kaeza just for testing
20:22 rubenwardy yes kaeza, although wait for the new version
20:22 jojoa1997 keaza please put link in the armor_plus topic
20:22 kaeza jojoa1997, patience my little grasshopper
20:22 kaeza :P
20:22 jojoa1997 how long ago did i ask?
20:23 jojoa1997 i am doing hw,this,downloading python,and coding so it seems to go fast
20:23 jojoa1997 i mean time
20:23 rubenwardy kaeza: I have commites
20:24 rubenwardy * commited
20:24 kaeza rubenwardy, cloning again
20:25 jojoa1997 ok i have python how do i run it?
20:25 jojoa1997 i just get a shell is that right?
20:25 kaeza yep
20:26 jojoa1997 how do i run a program from it and can i have it act like a batch file
20:28 jojoa1997 what is the server adress for local servers
20:28 jojoa1997 127.0.0.0?
20:28 ShadowNinja 127.0.0.1
20:28 PilzAdam you can just use "localhost"
20:29 ShadowNinja no, there is a bug with localhost iirc
20:29 kaeza jojoa1997, python filename.py
20:29 kaeza rubenwardy, main.cpp:20:11: error: '::main' must return 'int'
20:29 jojoa1997 what is the server #
20:30 jojoa1997 for local
20:30 kaeza jojoa1997, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-armorplus.git
20:30 kaeza see in tools/ directory
20:30 PilzAdam bye
20:31 jojoa1997 is that the armor mod?
20:31 kaeza nooooo
20:31 kaeza :P
20:32 jojoa1997 found it
20:32 jojoa1997 127.0.0.1
20:33 kaeza <Shadow Ninja> 127.0.0.1
20:33 kaeza oh well
20:33 jojoa1997 oh sorry didnt see that XD
20:34 jojoa1997 it doesnt work
20:35 jojoa1997 gtg bbl
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20:38 rubenwardy kaeza: commited more changes
20:38 rubenwardy I have gtg now
20:38 jojoa1997_ ok so the program doesnt work kaeza
20:39 rubenwardy can you fork and pull request cmake settings
20:39 rubenwardy ?
20:39 kaeza rubenwardy, writing CMakeLists right now
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20:39 rubenwardy thanks :D
20:39 kaeza jojoa1997, you need Python Image Library
20:39 kaeza oh gone
20:40 jojoa1997_ ?
20:40 jojoa1997_ lk please
20:40 jojoa1997_ link
20:40 sfan5 !g python image library
20:40 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
20:40 sfan5 ^ jojoa1997
20:40 kaeza jojoa1997, http://lmgtfy.com/q=python+image+library
20:41 rubenwardy bye all
20:41 jojoa1997 404
20:41 kaeza rubenwardy, I'll push this later ok?
20:41 rubenwardy ok
20:41 kaeza cya
20:41 jojoa1997 there is no version for 3.x
20:41 jojoa1997 so it doesnt work
20:42 sfan5 kaeza: its https://www.google.com/search?q=python+image+library
20:42 kaeza jojoa1997, install python 2.7
20:42 kaeza sfan5, noticed I forgot the '?' :P
20:43 sfan5 .. i accidently pasted the google link
20:43 jojoa1997 where do i put the library
20:44 kaeza jojoa1997, into C:\Python27\Lib
20:44 kaeza or smth like that
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20:46 ShadowNinja btw you need a version for your cpu architecture, so if you are using a 64-bit processor and python you can't use the main download
20:46 jojoa1997 so where can i find one for 64bit
20:47 ShadowNinja http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil
20:49 jojoa1997 eek i dont know which one to get
20:52 ShadowNinja the amd64 2.7 one
20:53 jojoa1997 yeah but which one thare is a bunch
20:54 ShadowNinja win-amd64-py2.7
20:55 jojoa1997 i mean there is aspell, autopy and so on
20:55 ShadowNinja PIL - the python image library
20:55 ShadowNinja *imaging
21:02 jojoa1997 i have installed python 2.7.3 and when i use the lib installer it says python 2.7 is not found
21:02 artur99 if a topic is moved, the link of it will be the same?
21:02 khonkhortisan Anyone know Abram Hindle?
21:03 khonkhortisan I got an email about a servey about my contributions to MeseCons.
21:03 khonkhortisan *survey
21:04 ShadowNinja Is python 64-bit as well?
21:05 avi_ khonkhortisan: Hi
21:05 kaeza artur99, yes
21:05 avi_ khonkhortisan: I am Abram
21:05 jojoa1997 no
21:05 jojoa1997 i dont think so
21:05 ShadowNinja They have to match
21:05 khonkhortisan oh. Hi!
21:05 jojoa1997 link for 64bit python?
21:06 avi_ khonkhortisan: yeah I'm studying project awareness and summarization using topics, and I need to validate if any of this stuff makes sense to developers.
21:06 avi_ khonkhortisan: so I extract issues and commits from projects and then ask developers questions about the results to see if it makes sense or not
21:06 khonkhortisan I have no idea how you came up with those commit relevance graphs
21:06 jojoa1997 the x86-64?
21:06 jojoa1997 http://www.python.org/getit/
21:06 avi_ I take the issue tracker and extract topics from them, then relate the topics to commits
21:07 avi_ the topics come from LDA (LAtent Dirichlet Allocation)
21:07 ShadowNinja http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.amd64.msi
21:07 avi_ it is an automatic method
21:07 * khonkhortisan didn't take statistics class
21:07 khonkhortisan Because you're on here, I know it's not a completely random email.
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21:08 khonkhortisan I like that you use .odt.
21:09 avi_ khonkhortisan: yeah libreoffice allows for a lot of automation
21:09 avi_ although my script is sort of ugly..
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21:17 jojoa1997 kaeza it still doesnt work
21:17 kaeza jojoa1997, error?
21:18 jojoa1997 there is no error
21:18 kaeza O.o
21:18 MinetestBot kaeza: What are you wondering about?
21:18 jojoa1997 the terminal comes up a bunch of numbers show and then it shuts down
21:18 kaeza jojoa1997, run the program from an already open terminal
21:18 jojoa1997 O.o
21:18 MinetestBot jojoa1997: What are you wondering about?
21:18 jojoa1997 how
21:19 kaeza don't just "Double click" the .py file
21:19 jojoa1997 ok how do i run it
21:19 kaeza jojoa1997, Start->Programs->Accessories->Command Prompt
21:20 jojoa1997 i know command prompt
21:20 jojoa1997 i maen the tool
21:20 jojoa1997 python script
21:20 kaeza cd <whereyouunpackedthezipfile>\tools
21:20 jojoa1997 i odnt know python
21:20 MiJyn that's not python
21:21 MiJyn that's, well, cmd.exe :P
21:21 kaeza jojoa1997, you don't actually know how to program in python to use the program :P
21:21 kaeza +need
21:21 kaeza you don't need to ... *
21:22 jojoa1997 kaezaok all i get now is
21:22 kaeza ...?
21:22 jojoa1997 unmatched color: (###,###,###,###)
21:23 MiJyn kaezaok? who's that?
21:23 MiJyn :P
21:23 jojoa1997 i get a bunch of those lines
21:23 kaeza ah, ignore those
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21:23 jojoa1997 ok i ran the progam and that came up what now
21:24 kaeza this is the procedure: edit armor.png to make changes, and run the script
21:24 kaeza it generates a bunch of textures in ..\textures
21:24 jojoa1997 oh
21:25 kaeza it just uses a crude "replace color" procedure to make the textures
21:25 kaeza so all are the same, except with color variations
21:26 kaeza hmm... I really need to document that thing :P
21:26 kaeza adding new materials is a PITA
21:26 kaeza maybe a rewrite...
21:27 kaeza any help from people that know how to use PIL is welcome
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21:40 jojoa1997 kaeza you should readd all the armors into armor_plus
21:41 kaeza wut
21:41 jojoa1997 re-add
21:42 kaeza what do you mean re-add?
21:42 jojoa1997 there is only steel armor in your mod
21:42 kaeza nope
21:42 jojoa1997 yeah'
21:43 kaeza wood, steel, mese, stone, talinite, silver, gold, copper, bronze, arol, alatro, akalin, ...
21:43 jojoa1997 i mean textures
21:43 kaeza the textures are there :P
21:44 kaeza there's also fire armor, water, ice, and...AIR!
21:44 kaeza :P
21:45 jojoa1997 i am updateing
21:49 jojoa1997 kaeza have you updated the post in your armor mod?
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21:52 jojoa1997 kaeza
21:53 Exio kaeza: air armor?!
21:53 Exio kaeza: it makes you fly or what? :P
21:53 kaeza jojoa1997, nope
21:53 jojoa1997 please update
21:53 kaeza Exio, with an armor level or 50 per part, makes you invulnerable
21:54 kaeza ...unless someone makes a strronger sword :P
21:54 kaeza -r
21:54 john_minetest I am always wearing an air armor. That's the easiest to craft and the lightest one to wear :D
21:55 kaeza john_minetest, sure! good luck finding air nodes in normal gameplay :P
21:55 kaeza s/finding/getting/
21:55 john_minetest I once had a bug on zegaton.
21:55 john_minetest Mesecon pistons were producing tons of air.
21:56 kaeza ah the old double-dig bug :P
21:56 kaeza hm?
21:56 kaeza that's new
21:56 jojoa1997 kaeza
21:56 john_minetest It was a few months ago
21:56 jojoa1997 can i have the githublink to armor_plus
21:56 john_minetest gtg, bye
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21:56 kaeza jojoa1997, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-armorplus
21:57 jojoa1997 kaeza i think you should put the github link in your first post on the forums
21:57 kaeza too lazy right now
21:59 kaeza done
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22:04 jojoa1997 kaeza does your mod not depend on armor where it makes it's own armor
22:05 kaeza jojoa1997, it depends on armor for the actual protection system, and for the UI
22:06 kaeza because I was too lazy to implement the code myself, or adapt cornernote's
22:07 jojoa1997 error
22:07 jojoa1997 line 28 attempt to concentrate a nil value
22:08 jojoa1997 and it is in the init
22:08 jojoa1997 kaeza ^
22:09 kaeza concentrate? :P
22:09 kaeza >concatenate
22:09 kaeza anyway, checking
22:09 jin_xi such a needlessly complicatded word
22:09 jojoa1997 concatenate
22:09 jin_xi concatenate
22:09 jojoa1997 what does it mean?
22:10 jin_xi join
22:10 jin_xi unix uses just cat
22:10 kaeza and C uses strcat()
22:10 jin_xi catenaria is chain or so
22:10 jin_xi so it means to chain together
22:11 kaeza jojoa1997, what file? O.o
22:11 kaeza ah
22:11 kaeza nvm
22:12 kaeza hrm...
22:12 kaeza jojoa1997, have you renamed the folder to just 'armorplus'?
22:12 kaeza (note: no '_')
22:13 jojoa1997 renaming works
22:14 kaeza that's because the mod is called armorplus; not armor_plus :P
22:14 jojoa1997 i had it named 3d_armor
22:15 kaeza areyoufckingkiddingme.jpg
22:18 jojoa1997 why is it when there is different types of srmor on only one type shows
22:18 kaeza hmm... I have found a bug, but I don't know if the culprit is technic or mesecons...
22:19 kaeza actually, not technic, but the item_drop functionality
22:19 jojoa1997 what bug?>
22:19 kaeza jojoa1997, care to test if this happens on your install too?
22:19 kaeza install technic and mesecons
22:20 jojoa1997 haha
22:20 jojoa1997 i have both
22:20 kaeza and enable the item_drop stuff from technic
22:20 jojoa1997 but i use item pckup
22:21 kaeza you can enable both
22:21 jojoa1997 ok what file
22:21 kaeza item_drop drops the items when dug, instead of sending directly to the inv
22:21 kaeza config.lua
22:22 kaeza ok?
22:22 jojoa1997 what is error i have to go
22:22 kaeza ah later then
22:22 kaeza item duplication :)
22:23 kaeza anyone available to confirm this?
22:24 jojoa1997 nope doesnt duplicate
22:24 jojoa1997 which armor does this
22:26 kaeza ...this has nothing to do with the armorplus mod... :|
22:27 jojoa1997 bye all!
22:27 kaeza cya
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23:03 Kacey hi all
23:03 MinetestBot hi Kacey
23:03 Kacey NO!!!!!!
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23:16 khonkhortisan hi all-
23:16 MiJyn hi khonkhortisan
23:16 khonkhortisan the dash keeps the bot from responding
23:17 MiJyn hah, it doesn't stop me!
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23:17 MiJyn hmm
23:17 MiJyn interesting
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23:17 khonkhortisan haha
23:17 MiJyn hmm
23:17 MiJyn it's not as boring now
23:17 khonkhortisan it can't give you the same answer twice
23:17 MiJyn ah
23:17 MiJyn hi minetestbot
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23:18 MinetestBot Hey MiJyn!
23:18 MiJyn what did you say?
23:18 khonkhortisan so it can
23:18 MiJyn :P
23:18 khonkhortisan it still hasn't said hello without exclamation
23:18 MiJyn hmm
23:18 MiJyn hi minetestbot
23:18 MinetestBot Hello MiJyn
23:18 MiJyn what did you say?
23:18 khonkhortisan lol
23:19 MiJyn interesting how it said that right after xD
23:19 khonkhortisan yeah
23:19 MiJyn kudos to sfan5 for creating the smartest IRC bot in the world :P
23:20 Deivan One question... If I have more than one recipe how I read the second recipe?  The "minetest.get_craft_recipe" return only the last added.
23:20 MiJyn Deivan, you mean, you overwrite your recipe?
23:20 MiJyn like:
23:20 Uberi the original recipe is not stored
23:21 MiJyn minetest.register_craft("test:test", ...)
23:21 MiJyn minetest.register_craft("test:"test", ...)
23:21 MiJyn oops
23:21 Deivan But the formula still in the game, in some place...
23:22 Uberi nope
23:22 Uberi it;s been overwritten
23:22 Deivan If no, don't is possible make a object with the older recipe, correct?
23:22 Uberi I do not understand what you said
23:23 Deivan Well... I have a bucket.
23:23 Deivan With 3 steel_ingot and another with 3 wood.
23:23 Deivan But is working in the game then the recipe is registered...
23:24 Deivan Two of then...
23:24 Uberi the original one is overwritten
23:24 Uberi and is no longer stored
23:24 MiJyn ^
23:24 Uberi i.e., it doesn't exist anymore
23:24 MiJyn unless you store a backup BEFORE you overwrite it
23:25 Deivan I understood your point.
23:25 Deivan But if is possible make this bucket with two recipes then, it is registered in the game core.
23:25 kaeza MiJyn, actually, you can define several recipes for the same item
23:25 kaeza also, minetest.register_craft does not take a "node name"
23:26 MiJyn kaeza, yeah, I realized that after I wrote that :P
23:26 MiJyn my bad
23:26 Deivan Well.  Then I only don't know how read this two formulas. :-o
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23:26 MiJyn Deivan, why don't you store them?
23:26 MiJyn under 2 different variables, then access them using lua, not using "get_craft_recipe"
23:27 Deivan If already is here I don't need eat more memory
23:27 MiJyn nah, it won't eat _too_ much
23:27 MiJyn it's a rather small table
23:27 MiJyn and actually, it doesn't
23:27 khonkhortisan How do I get rid of all my changes in git?
23:27 MiJyn it just stores a pointer to the table
23:27 MiJyn which is 8 bytes
23:28 Uberi khonkhortisan: delete the .git folder
23:28 MiJyn so you can have thousands of "temp = table", and it will take 800 bytes, which is okay
23:28 MiJyn *8000
23:28 khonkhortisan then what?
23:28 kaeza MiJyn, that depends
23:28 jin_xi khonkhortisan: checkout the file to get to last commit
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23:29 MiJyn kaeza, on what?
23:29 Uberi oh get rid of YOUR changes
23:29 kaeza a = { }; b = a; c = b; <-- these indeed use the small space
23:29 Uberi discard should do it
23:29 khonkhortisan well, three "git am" patches.
23:29 MiJyn kaeza, yes
23:29 kaeza but a = { }; b = { }; c = { }; does not
23:30 MiJyn kaeza, yeah, of course
23:30 MiJyn so @Devian, you would have to write it like this:
23:30 MiJyn my_craft = { ... }
23:30 MiJyn minetest.register_craft(my_craft)
23:30 MiJyn then it will use barely any space
23:31 Deivan I already have the old code...
23:31 Deivan I only avoinding it...
23:32 Deivan But if this is the only path then...
23:32 Deivan Well...  Already is done.
23:32 Deivan :-/
23:32 MiJyn well there _might_ be another way
23:32 MiJyn but I think this is the best
23:33 MiJyn of course, you can also do it like this (which, IMHO, would be cleaner):
23:33 MiJyn test_test_craft = { { ... }, { ... } }
23:33 Kacey how do i make obsidian in technic?
23:33 MiJyn for k, v in ipairs(test_test_craft) do minetest.register_craft(v) end
23:34 MiJyn but that's just a variation on the method
23:34 Deivan I don't need recode all, only need a API suport for more than one recipe.
23:34 Deivan :-o
23:34 Deivan :D
23:35 kaeza Deivan, minetest.register_craft({ output='default:wood 4'; type="shapeless"; recipe = { "default:sand", "default:sand" }; })
23:36 kaeza Deivan, minetest.register_craft({ output='default:wood 2'; type="shapeless"; recipe = { "default:sand" }; })
23:36 kaeza if you register both at the same time, you can get 4 ood for 2 sand, or 2 wood for 1 sand
23:36 kaeza wood*
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23:36 Deivan Yes, I know, but is the game engine...
23:37 kaeza ah sorry, missed your original question
23:37 kaeza hmm
23:38 kaeza one method would be traversing the minetest.registered_crafts table and interpret the 'output' field of each of the recipes
23:39 kaeza I think this is how craft_guide and the more recent unified_inventory does that
23:39 Kacey how do i make obsidian in technic?
23:39 kaeza Kacey, lavacooling mod
23:39 kaeza meh whatever
23:39 kaeza dunno
23:40 khonkhortisan Your last question didn't even get to the top of the page
23:40 Deivan I am renewing the crafing mod...
23:40 Deivan Updating...
23:40 khonkhortisan The -Y node face is mirrored, both with vanilla minetest and with 6d facedir.
23:41 kaeza khonkhortisan, that is a known bug
23:41 kaeza {{cn}}
23:42 khonkhortisan or...
23:42 * khonkhortisan is finding it hard to read with all these arrows
23:46 khonkhortisan nevermind on that, vanilla is right
23:48 VanessaE hi all.
23:49 khonkhortisan bot says, "Hi VanessaE"
23:50 Kacey lol
23:50 kaeza hehe
23:50 VanessaE I hate blabby bots.
23:50 kaeza hi VanessaE
23:50 VanessaE that's MY job.
23:50 VanessaE :)
23:50 kaeza lol
23:50 kaeza true ;)
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23:52 Kacey <<"technic:obsidian">> blocks: 5 in vol: 5.6186556927298 (80,80,80)
23:52 Kacey ?

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