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Time Nick Message
00:00 Vadtec or trying to at least :P
00:00 kaeza don't mind the lots of unknown nodes/objects
00:00 Vadtec i think i forgot to turn off the preload
00:00 kaeza I removed a lot of mods so the media download is smaller
00:00 Vadtec heh
00:01 Vadtec brb while this loads
00:01 kaeza and for the love of gawd, DON'T KILL ANY UNKNOWN OBJECTS!!
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00:02 Vadtec lemme turn of preload
00:02 Vadtec off*
00:03 Vadtec still waiting at the content screen
00:03 kaeza k
00:04 Vadtec have i even shown up in the logs yet?
00:04 kaeza you are here walking in place :)
00:04 Vadtec lol
00:08 Kacey my own server is lagging :(
00:16 NekoGloop|Laptop Vadtec: you can also make infinite lava source
00:16 kaeza ok, sorry for the laggy server :/
00:16 NekoGloop|Laptop (assuming I didn't miss that)
00:16 Vadtec NekoGloop|Laptop: now thats a neat trick...how?
00:17 Vadtec kaeza: np, it happens to the best of us
00:17 NekoGloop|Laptop Vadtec, same way as water.
00:17 Vadtec NekoGloop|Laptop: in stock mt?
00:17 NekoGloop|Laptop yes
00:17 kaeza in fact, you can do that with any "luquid"
00:17 kaeza liquid*
00:17 Vadtec sweet
00:18 Kacey wish the sun would rise...
00:24 Kacey WTF?!?!?!
00:24 Kacey nvm got it
00:26 kaeza err...what?
00:27 kaeza talking to yourself is a sign of demency :)
00:30 Kacey lol
00:39 Kacey ooh kaeza you know that buses mod we were going to make?
00:42 * Kacey needs to find diamonds...
00:43 kaeza there's already a databus mod IIRC
00:43 Kacey digilines
00:49 Vadtec kaeza: actually, the way im doing my layout will work nicely
00:49 Vadtec just gotta stagger the copper wires below the mills
00:51 Vadtec if i counted correctly, i have 37 of em hooked up
00:52 Kacey cool
00:52 Kacey im still setting up a little thing lol
00:53 Kacey i have alot of seeds...
01:00 Kacey afk dinner
01:00 Vadtec actually, 35, just did a recount
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01:11 Kacey|dinner do ropes have a length limit from the vines mod?
01:12 Vadtec Kacey|dinner: nope
01:12 Vadtec i put a rope box and then kept digging
01:12 Kacey|dinner but mine just stopped
01:12 Vadtec it happily kept extending
01:12 Vadtec not sure
01:12 Vadtec i had one over 1000m long
01:12 Kacey|dinner mine stopped at about -215
01:13 Kacey|dinner -240 sorry
01:13 Vadtec i was at -850
01:13 Kacey|dinner ...
01:16 kaeza WOW minetest has been on development for 4 years?? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72676#p72676
01:16 kaeza </sarcasm>
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01:22 kaeza hi mauvebic
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01:29 * VanessaE peeks in
01:30 Kacey|dinner hi v
01:30 kaeza_ wb V
01:30 VanessaE hey
01:30 MinetestBot hi VanessaE
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01:51 jfu oh i hate trolls...
01:52 VanessaE we get enough of those, for sure :-/
01:54 Kacey|dinner ?
01:55 * sokomine looks puzzled
01:56 sokomine i was building some small houses...the game crashed...i started the singleplayer game again...and the houses where gone?
01:56 VanessaE sokomine: the server half was probably too lagged to record your actions :(
01:56 sokomine but not for almost 2 hours (that's when i started building)
01:56 sokomine a few minutes - yes, that's known to happen. but..hours?
01:57 sokomine the server *did* record it in debug.txt
01:57 VanessaE weird
01:57 VanessaE out of disk space?
01:57 VanessaE read only map?
01:58 sokomine hmm. out of disc space - not this time. that just lost me the seed for that world some time ago. this time there's enough space
01:58 sokomine after all the debug.txt got written successfully until the very crash
01:59 khonkhortisan Does this look right? mesecons = { conductor = { action_on = function(…), action_off = fuction(…), rules = {…} } }
02:02 sokomine great :-/ how am i to figure out rotation now? and why did it get lost?
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02:05 sokomine honkhortisan: it looks complicated. i havn't done anything with mesecons yet
02:05 khonkhortisan I'm trying to get powered rails from the carts mod to power along the line, without losing the ability to power the cart
02:06 RealBadAngel hi all
02:06 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel
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02:06 khonkhortisan hi MinetestBot
02:06 MinetestBot Hey khonkhortisan
02:07 khonkhortisan hi RBA
02:07 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, just merged ur another patch
02:07 khonkhortisan ok
02:07 * NekoGloop|Laptop puts a kitten on RealBadAngel's head
02:08 RealBadAngel if somebody would like to test 6d facedir it will be out in a few minutes
02:08 * VanessaE takes the kitten from RealBadAngel's head and puts it on MinetestBot's head
02:09 khonkhortisan out?
02:09 khonkhortisan Is it more than one commit?
02:09 khonkhortisan MinetestBot, did you hear that?
02:10 NekoGloop|Laptop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL6CHHWw1hU
02:11 sokomine hi rba
02:11 khonkhortisan I wonder if I can install a link reader without a bot
02:12 * sokomine complains that the bot gets a kitten while she doesn't
02:12 khonkhortisan the bot was snuck a kitten without its notice
02:13 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head, which is the same kitten already there - just picked up and put down again.
02:13 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens
02:13 khonkhortisan See?
02:14 sokomine ah, ok
02:15 sokomine re-placed kittens maybe do not agree with beeing taken up and placed again
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02:15 Kacey back
02:15 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey!
02:15 Menche hi all
02:15 MinetestBot hi Menche
02:16 khonkhortisan hi Kacey, Menche, MinetestBot
02:17 Kacey lets all spam MinetestBot
02:17 Kacey NekoGloop|Laptop, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u9uFJpz2QM
02:17 khonkhortisan hi MinetestBot!
02:17 Kacey just for you
02:18 Menche how to download minetest
02:18 NekoGloop|Laptop Yeah no
02:18 Menche how to download minetest?
02:18 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten and a puppy on MinetestBot's head
02:18 khonkhortisan how install minetest?
02:18 Menche where to download minetest?
02:18 MinetestBot Menche: http://www.minetest.net/download.php  Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux
02:18 khonkhortisan there
02:18 Kacey its Hatsune Miku doing Gangnam Style NekoGloop|Laptop
02:19 NekoGloop|Laptop Yeah no.
02:19 Kacey it is
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02:20 Kacey i have a banana tree ^_^
02:22 sokomine i managed to rescue the buildings by grepping debug.txt. here's the line:     grep "singleplayer places node" debug.txt | awk '{print $8" "$6" 0 9"}' | sed 's/[\(\)\,]/ /g'
02:23 sokomine after that i did a //pos1 0,0,0    and //load  to load that data. fortionately it's such a straightforward format
02:23 kaeza I'd like to hear more comments on this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72516#p72516
02:24 kaeza is it worth the effort?
02:24 sokomine don't know. what's the general topic?
02:24 kaeza basically, being able to move the player's head to reflect it's looking direction
02:24 khonkhortisan uh, player is server-side?
02:25 kaeza yeah
02:25 khonkhortisan interesting
02:25 sokomine woud be nice. don't know how important it is
02:25 kaeza gimme a sec
02:26 kaeza here's a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU
02:26 khonkhortisan arm stuck to the face
02:27 khonkhortisan Does it only send an update when the direction changes?
02:27 kaeza yeah
02:27 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRyon8CdTU lol best one
02:28 kaeza but in order to make a walking animation, I have to animate *all* the bones simultaneously
02:28 kaeza and that is done every step
02:28 kaeza this consumes a terrible amount of bandwidth
02:29 kaeza even if I did that at every 100ms, it would be bad
02:29 kaeza (and the anim would be jerky)
02:29 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTk8ktb466g lol
02:29 khonkhortisan I've seen the player do that before
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02:32 kaeza hi brandy_
02:35 kaeza Kacey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRyon8CdTU
02:36 kaeza Kacey, also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=364AhSc3lUM
02:36 Kacey i have seen them all
02:39 * ShadowNinja would love to see this client-side
02:41 ShadowNinja uh oh, this happened while I was away *** longjmp causes uninitialized stack frame ***: /home/owen/minetest/server/bin/minetestserver terminated
02:41 khonkhortisan I haven't gotten that error yet
02:42 ShadowNinja and my auto-restart cron seems to have failed
02:42 khonkhortisan can't you just use a while loop?
02:43 VanessaE while true; do minetestserver --blah blah; sleep 1; done
02:43 ShadowNinja but then you could just crash it over and over
02:43 VanessaE simple as that
02:44 ShadowNinja my script also restarts it if it stops responding to init packets
02:44 VanessaE now THAT is something I need to set up
02:44 VanessaE and something to catch it when it goes into runaway CPU usage.
02:45 ShadowNinja I just copied most of it from minetestbot, want the code?
02:49 VanessaE pastebin?
02:49 ShadowNinja does someone know how to check if a process is running from python?
02:50 VanessaE grep for it in ps axwww.  python should be mentioned
02:50 VanessaE as long as you executed the process as phython blahblah.py
02:50 VanessaE er python*
02:50 Kacey ShadowNinja, did you see my banana trees?
02:50 ShadowNinja I mean check minetestserver from within a python script
02:51 ShadowNinja no, menche's server?
02:51 Kacey yep
02:55 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5566648/ two files until I find out how to do that in python
02:56 Kacey night all
02:57 VanessaE ShadowNinja: impressive.
02:57 ShadowNinja thanks
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02:59 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
03:00 RealBadAngel and screwdriver: http://realbadangel.pl/facedirtools.zip
03:00 RealBadAngel please use setting: enable_texture_atlas = false when testing
03:01 RealBadAngel idk why atlas go insane and breaks all nodeboxes textures when it is off
03:01 RealBadAngel *on
03:03 NekoGloop|Laptop Ideally you have that turned off *anyway*
03:04 khonkhortisan You changed your commit?
03:04 khonkhortisan //R90
03:10 RealBadAngel on git theres now my current working tree
03:11 khonkhortisan git am https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/commit/3b86deccee9baea4671695c66a07394ab25b45ae.patch
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03:12 RealBadAngel thats it
03:12 jfu on Manches server, anyone knows what to do about griefers?
03:13 khonkhortisan I'm still suprised github doesn't provide a button to go to the patch
03:13 Menche jfu: is there a griefer on?
03:13 RealBadAngel download whole source just
03:13 ShadowNinja tell Kacey or menche
03:13 Menche a moderator can rollback all their actions
03:13 jfu Menche: not at the moment, but there was one previously
03:13 khonkhortisan github will give me an actual patch, it's just not obvious how to get it to do so.
03:14 kaeza hello RealBadAngel
03:14 RealBadAngel github is strange thingy
03:14 RealBadAngel hi kaeza
03:14 khonkhortisan ^ head rotator says hi to node rotator
03:14 kaeza lol
03:15 jfu Menche: anyway, ive seen him twice, he calles himself GrieferTheAssasin or something similar
03:15 jfu calls
03:15 Menche i don't think he's a griefer
03:15 Menche did he damage anything?
03:16 jfu well, he killed me twice and then he took down a rope and asked me if i wanted it back, acting like a douche
03:16 jfu i just ignored him
03:16 kaeza RealBadAngel, technic blue nrg crystals aren't charging in LV battery boxes. do I need an MV one?
03:16 RealBadAngel they should load there
03:17 RealBadAngel do you have latest technic ?
03:17 khonkhortisan as of today, latest?
03:17 RealBadAngel there was such a bug before but it was fixed already
03:17 kaeza the one that I updated the other day due to the bug with water mills
03:17 kaeza ah
03:18 RealBadAngel do you have new mining drills?
03:18 RealBadAngel if you dont you got old one
03:18 kaeza hmm... gimme a sec as I re-update. It's been two long weeks :/
03:19 Menche my debug.txt hasn't been updated for a few days  DX
03:20 RealBadAngel its turned off by default now
03:20 VanessaE that's because debug is disabled by default now
03:20 khonkhortisan It looks like I'll have to separate powered rail into two nodes to get it to conduct
03:20 Menche ...who's brilliant idea was that
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03:21 RealBadAngel it is good idea
03:21 khonkhortisan It should print a debug statement about debug being disabled
03:21 RealBadAngel normal user doesnt need it
03:21 Menche why disable it
03:21 RealBadAngel and it causes game to run faster
03:21 khonkhortisan that could decrease apparent lag
03:21 RealBadAngel 40fps for me instead of 25
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03:22 khonkhortisan wow
03:22 RealBadAngel and when you need logs just set it in config
03:23 sdzen hmmmmm
03:23 sdzen normal user doesn't need it?
03:23 * sdzen as new user to minetest in this day and age.
03:23 * sdzen finds this cool mod called nyanland
03:24 khonkhortisan My game crashed! Post your debug.txt. Oh wait, you have to enable this obscure setting first in this file you have to find
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03:24 * sdzen trys to install it
03:24 kaeza smells like LM...
03:24 khonkhortisan Hello user of Mozilla software
03:24 OWNSyouAll are there any good creative server mods for minetest?
03:24 RealBadAngel debug_log_level =0 no logging
03:24 khonkhortisan unified_inventory, bundled with technic.
03:24 * sdzen finds out that mod error: in /home/sdzen/.minetest/mo
03:24 RealBadAngel set it to values from 1 to 4
03:24 jfu Menche: btw, how would i go about making a piece of land registered to me? ive seen some players that have that
03:25 Menche with protector blocks; due to an accidental changing of the config, some players didn't get any
03:25 Menche are you on now?
03:25 khonkhortisan They are available in the town store
03:26 jfu Menche: nope im not. i can ask you again next time i log in. im done for today
03:26 Menche there's a shop in the back of the mall
03:26 Menche ok
03:27 sdzen if they are now disabled by default
03:28 sdzen then can we at least get the full mod error shown on the minetest screen
03:28 kaeza hmm... aren't Lua errors logged by default even with debug off?
03:28 sdzen because I have always been pissed off that it gets cut off
03:28 sdzen no but I am saying
03:28 sdzen I hate it when people complain the mod doesn't work
03:29 sdzen and they write down what the minetest game told them
03:29 kaeza yeah, I get what you say
03:29 sdzen and not the debug stuff...
03:29 kaeza I guess debug.txt should contain only true errors when debug is disabled.
03:29 sdzen and 99% of the time it gets cutt off
03:30 kaeza heck!
03:30 kaeza my debug.txt is 970MB :(
03:31 kaeza :O*
03:33 * sdzen thats the reason you get fps increases
03:33 sdzen delete the bloody txt file
03:33 sdzen :)
03:33 sdzen or rename it
03:35 khonkhortisan What's the official mesecon off color? The variance in color in the texture is throwing me off
03:35 VanessaE I never established one
03:35 VanessaE because nodebox lighting is fucked up
03:35 khonkhortisan perfection, you have been defeated.
03:35 kaeza I wonder what's the size of debug.txt for Random Joe MT User?
03:35 khonkhortisan *ism
03:36 kaeza I mean, for that user that does not even know what the debug.txt file is
03:36 VanessaE khonkhortisan: in which case, render one in-game, /time 12000, screenshot from up close, and use gimp to average the colors together
03:36 khonkhortisan I'd rather use a color from a texture to make a color in another texture
03:36 VanessaE you can't
03:36 khonkhortisan ?
03:36 khonkhortisan gimp color picker
03:37 VanessaE nodebox lighting is busted, so you won't be able to match it up, unless of course you're making another nodebox.
03:37 VanessaE in which case then you could look at the texture file.
03:37 khonkhortisan I'm making a rail
03:37 VanessaE ok, raillike is basically the same lighting issue
03:37 VanessaE read the texture then :)
03:38 khonkhortisan I get 979818, 8b8d17, 929317, 70702f, 5f5f0b, et al.
03:38 VanessaE average them
03:38 NekoGloop|Laptop lol hex
03:39 khonkhortisan meh
03:39 VanessaE select all of the texture's opaque areas, filters -> blur -> gaussian blur -> really large values for the radius
03:39 VanessaE then shift-click with the ink dropper
03:39 khonkhortisan it froze my gimp just to open the blur dialog with the preview enabled
03:40 VanessaE for a 16px texture??
03:40 khonkhortisan I don't do so well with memory
03:40 kaeza that's Gimp for you :)
03:40 khonkhortisan and blender and minetest too
03:40 kaeza a true memory hog :)
03:41 kaeza f*ck blender
03:41 kaeza and it's idiotic interface
03:41 khonkhortisan that's "its idiotic interface" to you.
03:42 kaeza meh
03:42 khonkhortisan I have two gaussian blur buttons
03:42 kaeza I can't even split a cube into two parts
03:42 khonkhortisan must be a plugin
03:42 khonkhortisan split how? one mesh, both halves solid?
03:43 kaeza both halves solid
03:43 * Menche has absolutely *no* idea how to even really look at something in blender
03:43 khonkhortisan look at something in wire mode
03:43 khonkhortisan eh, select one face, move it halfway to the side, a, shift-d, move the copy halfway back
03:43 kaeza ah sorry, it's one mesh, and I want to slice it into two halves
03:44 Menche iirc i couldn't figure out how to rotate something
03:44 khonkhortisan there's a knife tool, but I'm not good at it
03:44 khonkhortisan You could select the middle edges and w->subdivide, then "make face" with what's left
03:45 khonkhortisan no that wouldn't work, you'd have connected vertices
03:45 kaeza hmm
03:45 khonkhortisan Menche, g/r/s grab/rotate/scale
03:46 khonkhortisan Yay, a solid color!
03:46 khonkhortisan 929317
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03:53 khonkhortisan 9.4G debug.txt
03:54 VanessaE gevalt
03:54 VanessaE rm that bastard
03:55 khonkhortisan I could move it to trash, causing it to multiply
03:55 khonkhortisan gone (but still recoverable with advanced hard drive reading technology)
03:59 kaeza shred -n 1000000000000 ?
03:59 ShadowNinja VanessaE: I have it working with one file now, however it requires psutil
04:00 khonkhortisan I wonder if shred even works after an rm
04:00 VanessaE bah, SSD ftw. no need for shred et.al :-)
04:01 VanessaE besides, you wanna shred post-rm:   mkdir work; while true; do dd if=/dev/zero of=work/file$n; n=$((n+1)); done
04:01 khonkhortisan Are they harder to read?
04:01 VanessaE then rm -rf work
04:01 khonkhortisan That fills all the empty space?
04:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: the wear leveling algorithms they use make it all but impossible to get files off of them without ripping the chips off the board.
04:02 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yep
04:02 VanessaE which does the same thing as shred
04:02 VanessaE and with solid state media, only one pass is needed
04:02 OWNSyouAll Has anyone got minetest to work on fedora mine crashes the secound i try to start it
04:03 VanessaE oh, I forgot to put a block size and byte limit on that dd.  bs=1048576 count=1024
04:04 khonkhortisan I should read closer. I thought you were appending.
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04:22 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Remove dead code, relocate some code 9b5f182642 2013-02-25T20:11:12-08:00 http://git.io/DhcAyw
04:23 VanessaE Anaglyph stereo support, created by xyz ?????
04:24 VanessaE kaeza: ok, I take it back - there ISN'T an anaglyph branch - there's a COMMIT.
04:24 VanessaE :)
04:24 kaeza aww :(
04:24 VanessaE aw fuck
04:24 VanessaE I was on the wrong branch
04:25 kaeza It will be cool to have that
04:25 VanessaE but at least new_emerge is merged now.  Thanks, hmmmm
04:25 hmmmm merged emerge merge
04:25 hmmmm vanessa, i'm doing finite liquids next
04:25 VanessaE so it's...a new merge?
04:25 VanessaE ;)
04:25 kaeza also, using a Wiimote to simulate digging
04:25 kaeza :)
04:25 hmmmm you might want to hold off on updaint
04:25 VanessaE kaeza: +10000
04:25 hmmmm updating*
04:25 VanessaE hmmmm: I'll wait
04:25 hmmmm you like the finite liquids, right?
04:25 hmmmm i do, i was playing around with it
04:26 hmmmm it works much better than expected
04:26 VanessaE I have not tested them yet
04:26 kaeza hmmmm, it would be cool
04:26 hmmmm and best of all, it's optional
04:26 VanessaE I'm told Pipeworks works well with it though
04:26 hmmmm so nobody's forcing you to change the gameplay dynamics
04:26 kaeza but the Lua version is slow as hell
04:26 kaeza is it in C++ now?
04:26 hmmmm yes
04:26 kaeza nice!
04:27 kaeza I guess it is much faster now then?
04:27 hmmmm i didn't notice any speed issues at all, it seems fine
04:27 hmmmm i don't really know how "slow" it was before to compare it
04:28 kaeza well, with 20 nodes, it took around half a sec to update here
04:28 kaeza (20 "finite liquid" nodes)
04:28 hmmmm you might've needed to change the update speed to 0.2
04:29 hmmmm in fact i should change that to be the default value... no idea why he made it 1
04:29 sokomine does anyone have a straw texture at hand?
04:30 VanessaE nope
04:30 VanessaE sowwy
04:32 kaeza just a question: have been any progress with the entity handling bug on the client?
04:32 VanessaE hmmmm: just so I don't look like a fucking idiot, can you merge that anaglyph branch? ;)
04:32 hmmmm which analagalgaph branch
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04:32 hmmmm i don't have the link to it
04:32 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/anaglyph_rebase1
04:32 VanessaE which probably won't merge anyway ;)
04:33 khonkhortisan Does it do cross-eyed 3d?
04:34 hmmmm oh dear that looks old
04:34 sokomine 3d? does anyone really use that?
04:35 hmmmm i could've sworn that's been in there for a while
04:35 VanessaE it has, I was only joking :)
04:37 kaeza hmm... positional sound+stereoscopic view+support for multi touch screens+wiimote support... can we be *inside* Minetest?? :D
04:37 VanessaE heh
04:37 VanessaE well at least then no one can legitimately ask for third-person view then :D
04:38 VanessaE wii remote is bluetooth or something isn't it?
04:38 * VanessaE looks over at her Wii
04:38 kaeza to Wikipedia!
04:38 NekoGloop|Laptop Yes it is
04:38 kaeza you got a Wii :O
04:38 VanessaE yeah, ages ago
04:38 VanessaE it makes a good exercise machine
04:38 kaeza I'm still stuck with my NES :(
04:38 NekoGloop|Laptop Game Maker 8 has an extension for wiimotes.
04:39 NekoGloop|Laptop kaeza, would that be a Animal Crossing NES?
04:39 VanessaE NES?  wow
04:39 kaeza NekoGloop|Laptop, Megaman :)
04:41 VanessaE someone needs to port MT to the Wii so I can use my big screen :D
04:41 kaeza heh
04:42 VanessaE (unless someone wants to send me about 100 feet of HDMI cable :D
04:42 kaeza I wonder if the Wii has enuff processing power to run MT
04:42 * kaeza is searching Wikipedia
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04:42 NekoGloop|Laptop Hell no
04:43 NekoGloop|Laptop To both account
04:43 NekoGloop|Laptop accounts*
04:43 VanessaE well as long as you don't ask it to run Moretrees or snow mod.....
04:43 VanessaE ;)
04:43 NekoGloop|Laptop I still should see how well my laptop likes those :O
04:45 kaeza 729MHz PowerPC...
04:45 VanessaE hohoi
04:45 VanessaE no chance in hell :)
04:46 kaeza 88MB of memory
04:46 kaeza 3MB VRAM
04:46 VanessaE 88.....megs?
04:46 kaeza O.o
04:46 MinetestBot kaeza: What are you wondering about?
04:46 VanessaE MEGS?
04:46 kaeza yep
04:47 kaeza aww not even that
04:47 kaeza "I mean, sometimes entities
04:47 kaeza 88 MB main memory (24 MB internal 1T-SRAM integrated into graphics package, 64 MB external GDDR3 SDRAM)[174]
04:48 kaeza slipped copypasta :P
04:48 VanessaE holy crap
04:48 VanessaE I never realized it was so low-end
04:48 VanessaE how about the Wii-U?
04:49 kaeza CPU: IBM PowerPC Tri-Core processor "Espresso" reportedly clocked at 1.2 GHZ.
04:49 VanessaE well that's a *little* better
04:49 VanessaE but then again
04:49 VanessaE the regular Wii runs at what, 640x480 or some such?
04:50 MiJyn hi :)
04:50 kaeza 480p (PAL/NTSC), 480i (PAL/NTSC) or 576i (PAL/SECAM),
04:50 VanessaE yup
04:50 VanessaE well given it has a decent GPU and low rez like that, should run MT okay after some further refinementsw
04:50 VanessaE -w
04:51 kaeza but srsly, you need at least 2GHZ + 1.5-2 GB RAM to run MT
04:51 VanessaE "after some further refinements"
04:51 VanessaE :)
04:51 sdzen kaeza?
04:51 sdzen thats pretty high specs for MT
04:51 kaeza without putting MOBF, moretrees, mesecons and technic :)
04:52 VanessaE heh
04:52 sdzen your crazy
04:52 kaeza sdzen, what would be the *bare minimum* requirements for MT?
04:52 VanessaE anyone feel like rewriting moretrees into C++? :)
04:52 sdzen hahahahaha
04:52 hmmmm :/
04:52 sdzen let me play around with my pentium three for a sec
04:53 kaeza that is, where you get 5 FPS in 320x240 with only wanilla game :)
04:53 khonkhortisan /replace mese desert_sand gave me CONTENT_IGNORE messages
04:53 kaeza vanilla*
04:53 hmmmm vanessa, that will be unnecessary once VoxelManipulator gets into lua
04:53 VanessaE hmmmm: I'd like to submit plants_lib to be included with builtin.  I think it's about ready.
04:53 hmmmm yeah.. about that
04:53 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Merge pull request #482 from proller/liquid 979ca23f1e 2013-02-25T20:52:24-08:00 http://git.io/Y-evSw
04:53 VanessaE oh boy.
04:53 sdzen //replace default:desert_sand default:mese
04:53 hmmmm I decided that I'm not going to do anything related to minetest-game
04:53 VanessaE oh ok
04:53 hmmmm give that to somebody else
04:53 khonkhortisan Do plants_lib manage cactus, dry_shrub, papyrus?
04:53 hmmmm too much stuff
04:53 VanessaE heh
04:54 sdzen good idea hmmmm
04:54 VanessaE it'll die in waiting :D
04:54 sdzen minetest_game is a warzone :)
04:54 hmmmm hah
04:54 sdzen aint that rioght pilz?
04:54 sdzen right*
04:54 hmmmm pilz is german for Mushroom
04:54 khonkhortisan He'd rather be called Adam, so I hear
04:54 sdzen he would
04:55 sdzen and for some bloody reason I know the mushroom thing.......
04:55 khonkhortisan takin' mushroom pilz
04:56 khonkhortisan bloody gives me the impression you're british
04:56 hmmmm maybe he is
04:56 sdzen check my ip
04:56 sdzen I dare ya :P
04:57 hmmmm which is masked
04:57 kaeza thought you were frenh :P
04:57 kaeza french*
04:57 sdzen so pretty much I can give you any information I want and it could be bullocks
04:57 khonkhortisan the irc log only says sdzen joined #minetest
04:58 sdzen mais kaeza mon francais n'est pas bon!
04:58 kaeza no entiendo nada de lo que dices
04:58 khonkhortisan You joined after cloak
04:58 khonkhortisan unlike _some_ people I know
04:59 sdzen I try to join after it
04:59 sdzen sometimes I beat it though
04:59 sdzen its not negligence
04:59 sdzen usually issues with connection
05:00 khonkhortisan How odd, my t-intersections are turning into corners
05:00 VanessaE you bwoke it :(
05:01 sdzen you must realize people that I gave my actual location to you some time ago in a forum topic
05:01 khonkhortisan it's the rail won't connect to different rail applying during powered rail turning into powered-on rail
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05:01 sdzen all you need to do is find it
05:02 sdzen ahhh yes that issue again?
05:02 khonkhortisan yep
05:02 sdzen anyone find a way around it yet?
05:02 sdzen last I checked nobody had
05:03 khonkhortisan If I could run a function when a conducting single node turned on and off, I wouldn't have to change the rail type
05:03 khonkhortisan But I have to use two nodes to conduct
05:04 khonkhortisan Found it - Your age too
05:05 khonkhortisan But I will keep that information to those with the skill to find it
05:05 sdzen haha the newest one in the offtopic section?
05:06 sdzen its an old one in the general disscussion I think
05:06 khonkhortisan 5th in offtopic
05:08 sdzen http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525
05:08 sdzen there you go!
05:08 khonkhortisan you have too many pages of posts for me to want to go through them looking for it
05:08 sdzen course I could be lieing with that as well
05:09 khonkhortisan Ohio doesn't count as United States
05:09 khonkhortisan That list should be indented to show geographical inclusion
05:09 VanessaE we disavow any claims of ownership of Ohio or Illinois
05:10 VanessaE and those damn Kansans have been trying to weasel their way into our country for centuries :)
05:10 khonkhortisan People will most likely not lie
05:10 khonkhortisan It is less often they will have a reason to, and less often than that that they will.
05:10 khonkhortisan and very less often they will lie without reason.
05:10 sdzen I don't like giving information without a bit of fight
05:13 sdzen as you an tell I live in paradise
05:13 sdzen can*
05:13 sdzen by my account description
05:15 khonkhortisan that old rail connect patch doesn't succeed anymore
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05:28 sdzen oh does anyone know why there are such heavy avatar restrictions on the forums?
05:28 VanessaE damned if I know
05:28 sdzen I was trying to change my current one thats 200x200
05:28 VanessaE someone complained that animations were irritating or something
05:28 sdzen to another 200x200 one
05:28 sdzen but now only 60x60 is allowed as maximum
05:30 sdzen its only abit absurd
05:30 sdzen :)
05:34 kaeza just asking, but what is the reason behind param and param2 being 8 bits in size?
06:09 Oblivion1500 hey i was just wondering if you could mount another hard drive to use the root directory?
06:09 VanessaE sure
06:09 VanessaE easily
06:10 VanessaE any disk/partition can be mounted pretty much anywhere you want it to be, including /
06:10 Oblivion1500 so if the first hard drive fills up it will go to that hard drive?
06:10 VanessaE as long as you don't mind editing fstab of course
06:10 VanessaE it doesn't work like that actually
06:11 Oblivion1500 ?
06:11 VanessaE normally, you keep / strictly limited to your system/OS install, normally around 10 or 15GB.
06:11 VanessaE you'd have another partition for /home
06:11 VanessaE and a second disk might be, for example, mounted as /storage
06:11 VanessaE (that's what I do)
06:11 VanessaE you just have to pay attention to where you store stuff.
06:12 Oblivion1500 ok here is my situation
06:12 VanessaE if you want two or more disks to just append together, you need to RAID-0 them
06:12 VanessaE which you probably don't wanna do in practice
06:13 Oblivion1500 i have a server that is hosting my website, the hard drive that has linux installed on it is 20 gb, i dont want to move the website because i have to do alot more work than i want to do.. but im willing to make it so they copy to eachother but when the first one fills up it uses the second one still
06:14 Oblivion1500 so raiding them might be what i want to do
06:14 Oblivion1500 but the raid that copys them
06:14 Oblivion1500 but im not sure what will happen when one fills up
06:14 VanessaE in that case, just use the second HD for thew website, /home, etc etc
06:14 Oblivion1500 will it break stuff
06:15 VanessaE don't even waste your time with that 20GB disk except for your OS
06:15 VanessaE that's really the only right way to do what you want.
06:16 VanessaE how big is the other drive?
06:16 Oblivion1500 lol only 80
06:16 VanessaE well 80 isn't so bad.
06:16 VanessaE so do this:
06:16 Oblivion1500 yea for what im doing
06:16 Oblivion1500 you want to see what im doing?
06:17 VanessaE Put your OS on 18GB of the 20 GB drive.  Slice off 2 GB for swap.  Make one partition on the 80Gb drive, covering the whole thing.  mount it as /home.  Put your website data there.
06:18 Oblivion1500 i already have it built
06:18 Oblivion1500 its using a 2gb for swap
06:18 Oblivion1500 so... just mount my hard drive?
06:18 VanessaE did you partition it?
06:19 Oblivion1500 but its fat23.. do i want to change that
06:19 VanessaE um
06:19 Oblivion1500 uhm, i let the install partition it
06:19 VanessaE what's on it now?
06:19 VanessaE what files etc.?
06:19 Oblivion1500 1337reviews.com
06:19 VanessaE no, the 80.
06:19 VanessaE it is just empty?
06:19 Oblivion1500 nothing i wiped it
06:20 VanessaE then wipe it again, partition it for EXT4.
06:20 VanessaE put your website there.
06:22 Oblivion1500 the thing is when i move it and put the index.php and .htwhatever  it still doesent see my website just raw html
06:22 Oblivion1500 put that in /
06:26 VanessaE don't put website data in /
06:26 VanessaE put it in a user's home directory, some non-privileged user ID
06:26 VanessaE for example, my server is set up like that.
06:26 VanessaE (my minetest server I mean)
06:29 Oblivion1500 well than when my domain goes to my public ip it just index's my root
06:29 Oblivion1500 i can go to 1337reviews.com/home but i dont want to it do that...
06:30 VanessaE well whatever you do, don't store your website files in /
06:30 VanessaE and don't run your web services as anything but a non-priveleged user.
06:31 Oblivion1500 how do i know what user is running my web server?
06:32 Oblivion1500 i dont think its a privileged user..
06:35 VanessaE ps auxww
06:35 VanessaE look for your server process there (nginx, httpd, whatever)
06:36 VanessaE but if you don't know the user name already, you need to do some serious learning
06:36 VanessaE because you should already know who you are launching it as before you launch it.
06:38 Oblivion1500 well i think my apache install added it
06:38 Oblivion1500 so i didnt know, well now i do and its www-data, how do i find out what privs it has?
06:38 VanessaE yes.
06:39 VanessaE ls -lad www-data
06:39 VanessaE to be honest, you need to study up on how to use Linux properly.
06:39 VanessaE you shouldn't be doing this kinda stuff until you're familiar with general system admin tasks
06:41 VanessaE you don't want to do something to break things
06:41 Oblivion1500 well i have everything backed up
06:42 Oblivion1500 thing is im not turning back now so... yea
06:42 VanessaE well good luck :)
06:42 Oblivion1500 thanks
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06:45 Oblivion1500 also, ls looks for a directory
06:45 VanessaE when given the 'd' switch, it lists the directory itself instead of its contents.
06:45 Oblivion1500 it doesent own a directory..
06:46 VanessaE www-data should be a directory....
06:46 Oblivion1500 every user comes with a directory?
06:46 VanessaE usually, but www-data is not a user.  it's a place apache expects you to put your website data.
06:47 VanessaE (it used to be public_html if I remember right)
06:48 Oblivion1500 no, its a user in my case / is where apache looks for my website, how do i change this
06:48 VanessaE I don't remember, but / is not where apache would normally expect to look.
06:48 Oblivion1500 im using apache2
06:49 VanessaE it's been about 15 years since I was a web admin
06:49 VanessaE I barely even remember the names of the programs we used to run all this shit :)
06:51 Oblivion1500 i think some how when i put all the files in my root directory it copied them to the /www directory because that is where everything is.....
06:51 Oblivion1500 i dont know why or how in the hell it did it.. but i didnt do it. it had to be automatic some how
06:52 VanessaE I'd advise starting over from scratch then
06:52 Oblivion1500 maybe because there is an index file in my root
06:52 VanessaE see if there's some kind of gui to assist with the setup before you copy any of your website data over
06:52 Oblivion1500 there is not, im using ubuntu server
06:53 VanessaE http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/apacheweb.htm
06:53 VanessaE maybe one of those will help.
06:53 Oblivion1500 i would very much not like to start from scratch lol i can add information to the /www directory to see if anything changes
06:53 VanessaE anything that applies to Debian usually works on Ubuntu also.
06:55 Oblivion1500 well thanks for your help!!
06:56 VanessaE I tried :)
06:56 Oblivion1500 you made me relize that my site is not running from my root
06:56 VanessaE good :)
06:57 Oblivion1500 just looks like it is.. lol aparently the index.html points to the apache default some how. and that may be why all the files that are associated with the wordpress program were put there
06:58 Oblivion1500 ls
06:58 Oblivion1500 woops lol
07:00 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix most warnings, re-fix MSVC compile error d31f07bd4b 2013-02-25T22:57:59-08:00 http://git.io/eZFSAg
07:01 Oblivion1500 ^i love that shit
07:01 Oblivion1500 how the bot works now
07:11 kaeza misc question: what does the game use the seed for? Only base terrain generation, or also for other things?
07:12 kaeza I mean, if I want to re-create a world from scratch, is only the seed needed? or there are other random stuff that can't be accurately generated?
07:13 kaeza (eexcluding non-default mods)
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07:27 kaeza okay ttg
07:28 kaeza night all
07:28 VanessaE nooooooo
07:28 kaeza hm?
07:28 Infinity_69 Hi vanessae
07:28 kaeza yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaah
07:28 Infinity_69 Hi kaeza
07:28 * VanessaE staples kaeza's jeans to his chair
07:28 kaeza I' wearing shorts ;)
07:28 VanessaE fine :)
07:28 * VanessaE staples kaeza's shots yo his chair
07:28 VanessaE to*
07:29 kaeza ...
07:29 kaeza shots?
07:29 kaeza lol
07:29 VanessaE sigh
07:29 VanessaE I give up :)
07:29 Infinity_69 Vanessa + kaeza = rpg?
07:29 VanessaE ?
07:29 kaeza ??
07:30 kaeza anyway, here's a video for you Infinity_69 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=Wz1W_omigwg
07:30 kaeza and with that, I'm off :)
07:30 * Infinity_69 staples kaezas hair to her lower hair
07:30 kaeza her? O.o
07:30 Infinity_69 Yes
07:31 Infinity_69 XD
07:32 kaeza whatever I'm off. I'll go (more) nuts if I stay awake any longer. 24 hrs without sleep...zzz
07:32 VanessaE night, kaeza
07:32 VanessaE 24 hours?  wuss ;)
07:32 infinity_69|mobi Yeah
07:32 kaeza yep. not in the mood to stay for another 24
07:32 kaeza night o/
07:32 VanessaE heh ok
07:32 VanessaE good night :)
07:33 infinity_69|mobi Thats what she said
07:33 infinity_69|mobi XD
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07:57 Oblivion1500 just wondering what should i use as the number for chmod for web files?
07:58 VanessaE 644.
07:58 VanessaE and only for files the web server needs to write to
07:58 VanessaE everything else, 444.
07:59 Oblivion1500 ok and should i assign www-data as the owner of that folder?
08:00 VanessaE whatever the user is that the webserver is running a
08:00 VanessaE as
08:00 Oblivion1500 ok thanks
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08:20 Oblivion1500 should i chown www-data:root?
08:20 VanessaE no
08:20 VanessaE keep root FAR away from your webserver
08:20 Oblivion1500 sudo wont access that file
08:20 Oblivion1500 or folder
08:21 Oblivion1500 chmod every time i want to change it?
08:21 VanessaE ...
08:22 Oblivion1500 or i could su www-data
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08:22 Oblivion1500 cant remember the password i used for that though...
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08:39 MinetestBot hi M|Infinity_69
08:39 M|Infinity_69 Thats what she said xD
08:40 M|Infinity_69 !joke
08:41 M|Infinity_69 !gc porn
08:41 MinetestBot M|Infinity_69: Gross!
08:48 Oblivion1500 ok i changed my sites enabled to where my site is located now and restarted apache but it is still pointing to my root directory
08:48 Oblivion1500 i mean sites located
08:49 Oblivion1500 or available, sorry need coffee
08:49 Oblivion1500 and in sites enabled it says its using that directory..
08:50 Oblivion1500 could there be another service pointing my website? like php?
08:50 Oblivion1500 or mysql?
08:52 Oblivion1500 ... i dont think so, looks like apache is the only thing that is touching my website
08:52 Oblivion1500 damnit,
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09:35 Oblivion1500 ok i got everything working, its playing off my second hd i chown and chmod to 644
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09:47 M|Infinity_69 Hi
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09:48 M|Infinity_69 !gc free download
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09:55 M|Infinity_69 O.o
09:55 MinetestBot M|Infinity_69: What are you wondering about?
09:56 M|Infinity_69 !tw burn
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09:57 MinetestBot @MerlinOfficial give us sequel, like Ashes to Ashes 4 Life on Mars. Not sure how it would work, but it would need #Merlin (@rubenwardy)
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10:08 Taoki OMG, finite liquid in master! Updating to try it out
10:26 Taoki The finite liquids in master are fantascit! Although sometimes act a bit incorrectly... especially when running down slopes. But what exists works very awesomely so far, wonderful feature :D
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10:58 M|Infinity_69 Thats what she said xD
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12:58 Infinity_69 almost... ):/
12:58 Infinity_69 o.o
12:58 MinetestBot Infinity_69: What are you wondering about?
12:59 Infinity_69 you being dead
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14:02 sfan5 umm... you should see yourself
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16:17 * jfu is proud today
16:17 jfu ive made my first house!
16:19 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72695#p72695 => wut
16:19 Calinou jfu: cool story bro :P
16:21 jfu Calinou: ah you are the guy behind more ores?
16:21 khonkhortisan and moreblocks and stairsplus
16:22 john_minetest Isn't gimp using LISP?
16:22 khonkhortisan that's what emacs uses
16:22 jfu what is stairsplus?
16:22 khonkhortisan stairsplus is something you need
16:22 Infinity_69 !g how to make a qr code
16:22 khonkhortisan corner stairs, slabs, and more
16:22 MinetestBot Infinity_69: http://qrcode.kaywa.com/
16:22 jfu ah ok, ive used that without knowing =)
16:22 john_minetest Right, gimp also uses python. I only remembered that it uses this script-fu thing.
16:23 khonkhortisan it matters what version numdber you put in the qr
16:23 khonkhortisan even ink cartridges have tiny qr codes on them
16:23 Infinity_69 hey can somebody please make me a qr code that goes to http://qr.hvgaming.bugs3.com
16:24 Calinou jfu: the one and only! :-D
16:24 Infinity_69 im working on the site
16:24 Infinity_69 its down atm
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16:24 Calinou Infinity_69: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=how+to+make+a+QR+code
16:24 john_minetest QR codes are funny. I had fun some time ago with qr codes for AR applications. Very nice results.
16:24 jfu who decides what should be included in default? i mean something like stairsplus and moreores should be imho
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16:24 Infinity_69 i know how to, but i cant update my browser
16:24 khonkhortisan Without the site being up, I can't test the qr code it spits out
16:24 khonkhortisan or can I?
16:24 Infinity_69 i think you can :/
16:25 john_minetest Calinou: Lol, I am using ixquick often :D. (Using not google any longer).
16:25 Calinou jfu: the community
16:25 Calinou john_minetest: startpage for me, pretty much the same thing but doesn't use yahoo/bing results (which suck)
16:26 Calinou jfu: stairsplus has "sketchy" crafting recipes, probably why it isn't in default game
16:26 john_minetest Calinou: I mostly use metager (German meta search engine, pretty nice results).
16:26 Infinity_69 john
16:26 Infinity_69 can you make me a QR code
16:26 Infinity_69 i cant because i have an old IE
16:26 khonkhortisan as for moreores, some people don't like rainbow caves
16:26 Infinity_69 and i cant update
16:26 Infinity_69 :/
16:26 jfu Calinou: any examples? perhaps i can help you fix it?
16:27 khonkhortisan You could use firefox, chrome, opera?
16:27 Infinity_69 nope
16:27 Infinity_69 its a public pc
16:27 Infinity_69 cant download
16:27 khonkhortisan http://qrfree.kaywa.com/?l=1&amp;s=8&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fqr.hvgaming.bugs3.com%2F
16:28 Infinity_69 thanks man
16:28 Infinity_69 :)
16:32 john_minetest Who uses public computers? I don't know anyone who hasn't got a laptop. :D
16:33 Infinity_69 i had a laptop, but its broken
16:33 Infinity_69 motherboard is broken actually...
16:33 Calinou jfu: like, the microblock recipes need a stick to be crafted, because I found nothing better :P
16:33 Calinou it's quite hard to remember all the recipes :P
16:33 mauvebic does that downloading stuff work well in minetest client?
16:33 Calinou Infinity_69: how did you break its motherboard?
16:33 Calinou :P
16:34 Calinou mauvebic: did not test
16:34 mauvebic could simplify things for serving blueprints, think, on website or threads to maintain lol
16:34 mauvebic *no
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16:39 Infinity_69 bye
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16:42 rubenwardy hi all
16:42 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy
16:42 john_minetest Hi rubenwardy.
16:43 rubenwardy wat up in da hood?
16:43 mauvebic burning the hood down for insurance purposes
16:44 john_minetest buying water to flood the hut. I have bought a water insurance for a desert hut.
16:46 Calinou bring some suicide boots.
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16:49 webdesigner97 hi!
16:49 MinetestBot hi webdesigner97
16:50 mauvebic found the upper limit of my blueprint tool: 8 589 934 592 nodes lol
16:52 mauvebic also excellent for making grilled cheese off the CPU
16:52 * Calinou highfives mauvebic for owning a stock fan
16:53 mauvebic i havent changed anything on the newest tower yet
16:53 Calinou stock fans are terrible :P
16:53 mauvebic i agree but i got other bills to pay first before changing parts that are still in working order :p
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16:53 mauvebic and a P4 that really could use a new heatsink, keeps getting downclocked on boot
16:54 jordach hey all
16:54 MinetestBot hi jordach
16:54 jordach #bash
16:54 jordach oops
16:55 jordach xubuntu, y u ignore /join?
17:00 Calinou mauvebic: any CPU is downclocked when not using it
17:00 Calinou my CPU runs at 1.6ghz at idle :P
17:00 mauvebic naw i mean i get warnings on boot about excessive temp, so it downclocks
17:00 Calinou disable 'em
17:01 Calinou properly made mobos let you do this :P
17:01 Calinou usually you don't see these warnings unless your CPU is at 60°C or higher a few seconds after booting, and that is too high
17:02 mauvebic probably is running hot
17:02 Calinou not using thermal paste and too much dust can cause this
17:02 jordach Calinou, 60'C == BURNED OUT CPU.
17:02 jordach my brothers P4 disintergrated when we took it out.
17:03 VanessaE jordach: most CPUs will go beyond 70°C, and then they'll just shut themselves down now
17:03 VanessaE also, hi
17:03 jordach Important Security Updates: Contents: Mozilla Thunderbird
17:03 mauvebic last time i had a fan died thats what it did (the p4) the whole comp shutdown
17:03 jordach \o/
17:03 jordach morning VanessaE
17:04 PilzAdam who wants to see my drawing skills? https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/tree/gui
17:04 VanessaE afternoon
17:04 jordach dafuq
17:04 Calinou VanessaE: more like 100°C
17:04 Calinou higher than 80°C = not good for lifespan, 90°C = not good at all
17:05 * Calinou looks at the GTX 480
17:05 VanessaE Calinou: I haven't seen any CPU go higher than 80 though
17:05 Calinou can reach 100°C in normal use :P
17:05 jordach Calinou, least my P4 hovers around 55'C
17:05 john_minetest Try cracking a md5 hash. A LONG one.
17:05 VanessaE now GPUs, those fuckers go 130°C and up
17:05 Calinou VanessaE: the stock fans will get your CPU at 70-80°C in full load, depends of case and room temperature
17:05 Calinou jordach: stock fan much? custom fans can drop it at 30°C or so
17:05 VanessaE Calinou: good cooler + arctic silver = never above 50 :)
17:06 Calinou VanessaE: my 570 is at 34°C right now, playing trackmania
17:06 VanessaE (usually closer to 42 or so in my case)
17:06 jordach Calinou, 12 fans strapped together either side of the CPU = -1'C
17:06 Calinou no, using 2 fans instead of 1 on the CPU improves temperature by 2-4°C
17:06 Calinou most of the time
17:07 * jordach wouldnt mind Calinou as his IT guy
17:07 Calinou :-D
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17:08 Calinou O_o steam updater uses zenity...
17:08 Calinou valve are programming newbies \o/
17:08 jordach lolol
17:09 jordach s/newbies/shit
17:10 jordach Steam US$0.00
17:11 mauvebic oooo found a bunch of klingon ships lol where the f am i gonna put them all though
17:11 VanessaE up in the air? ;)
17:12 ShadowNinja VanessaE: my script is one file and checks cpu usage now
17:12 VanessaE sweet
17:12 ShadowNinja however it requires psutil
17:13 mauvebic im ending up with alot of ships hovering at low altitudes lol i might just raise the ground and make them look like they landed
17:13 mauvebic or build some sort of spire-like starbase underneath
17:15 jordach O.O Thank you for your recent download of Steam
17:15 MinetestBot jordach: What are you wondering about?
17:15 jordach from Ubuntu Software Center.
17:16 jordach MinetestBot
17:16 jordach VanessaE, awwwww my heart bleeds
17:17 jordach (not going to post in -dev so no bans!)
17:17 VanessaE ?
17:17 jordach <VanessaE> ain't this a bitch.  I got an F10 crash right after starting my client - but OF COURSE I wasn't running a debug build, and nothing appeared in the log.  let's try this again with that setting.
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17:27 KikaRz HI!
17:27 jordach hello KikaRz
17:27 KikaRz 2 years later, here i am...
17:27 KikaRz back for another adventure
17:27 jordach Calinou, INSTALLING STEAM!
17:27 KikaRz ...
17:28 KikaRz jordach, you have Ubuntu?
17:28 KikaRz well, i had a problem with ubuntu on WUBI
17:28 jordach Xubuntu
17:28 jordach naw shit.
17:28 KikaRz ...
17:28 KikaRz lol
17:28 KikaRz i cant install Xubuntu
17:28 Calinou jordach: have fun downloading TF2's 12GB :P
17:29 KikaRz Calinou...
17:29 KikaRz relax...
17:29 jordach Calinou, Steam wants to install: curl
17:29 KikaRz if his network is cool... no problem...
17:29 Calinou that's normal :P
17:29 KikaRz 2 days left for the end of month
17:29 Calinou KikaRz: took me 8 hours or so on my connection which can download at 400KB/s at most
17:30 MiJyn Calinou, finally someone else has a bad connection too!
17:30 jordach naw shit, i thought it was 21st of December 2012
17:30 sfan5 jordach: 12 gb is much if you have 825 kb/s internet
17:30 Calinou MiJyn: yeah, average speed in france is 600KB/s or so (download)
17:30 MiJyn Calinou, same here
17:30 KikaRz Calinou
17:30 KikaRz my speed is 3.4MB/s
17:30 jordach my speed is 8.0mbs
17:30 Calinou MiJyn: unlike most people, I have a good computer and bad connection :P
17:30 Calinou KikaRz: just like me
17:30 MiJyn thanks for rubbing it in guys! xD
17:30 jordach upgraded to 22.0mbs in a few months
17:31 MiJyn Calinou, haha
17:31 Calinou might have optic fiber in a few months
17:31 jordach Calinou, same ere!
17:31 KikaRz i dont have.
17:31 Calinou more expensive but worth it, anyway I can compensate by *cough*not buying stuff from findus*cough*
17:31 Calinou </trolls out>
17:31 jordach findus horse lasange?
17:32 * Calinou actually never bought anything from them
17:33 jordach Annoyance #1: Steam Requires latest nvidia drivers. The worst bit? RUNS ON WINDOWS.
17:33 jordach with older drivers.
17:34 Calinou some steam games work with nouveau
17:34 * sfan5 http://www.speedtest.net/result/2536296120.png
17:34 Calinou TF2 requires opengl 3.0 or higher
17:34 jordach bullshit.
17:34 * Calinou is now working on his silly secret project: moreblocks
17:34 jordach i got it to run with 2.1
17:34 Calinou then you had partial 3.0 compliance
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17:35 jordach experimental beta 304 driver, hmm, *scratches beard*
17:37 rubenwardy I have 20mb/s
17:38 jordach rubenwardy, explain yer timeouts then
17:38 rubenwardy stupid router
17:40 sfan5 the google chrome webgl gpu blacklist is bullshit
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17:44 jordach hm?
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17:53 sfan5 jordach: google chrome/chromium have a gpu blacklist that blocks some gpu types/gpu's because webgl is not known to wrok well
17:53 sfan5 *work
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18:02 Vadtec wow...fire can spread bad... my little girl set a tree on fire by mistake, and now 5-6 chunks are burning lol
18:03 VanessaE eek
18:06 VanessaE I disabled fire on my server because of that :)
18:06 VanessaE it's horribly laggy (and of course makes too good a tool for griefers)
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18:08 Vadtec even with node_ownership? can griefers still set things on fire?
18:09 VanessaE yep
18:10 VanessaE simple:  set afire something near by, let it spread.
18:10 Vadtec well, touche on that point
18:10 Vadtec maybe node_ownership can be expanded to prevent that
18:10 VanessaE or just pour lava in the area.
18:10 VanessaE node_ownership doesn't protect against spilled fluids
18:11 Vadtec i wonder if it can be expanded to...
18:11 VanessaE that much is certainly possible - I think redcrab's server runs such a modified version
18:11 VanessaE but fire?  possible but not trivial
18:12 rubenwardy If I was to do it, i would edit the fire
18:12 rubenwardy mod
18:12 VanessaE you'd have to store a bit of metadata with each fire and lava node, copying the name of the spiller or fire setter
18:12 rubenwardy ^^
18:12 rubenwardy like she said
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18:13 Vadtec while that would add some over head, i think it would be a good addition
18:13 VanessaE agreed
18:13 VanessaE but it definitely needs to be done in C++
18:13 john_minetest Fire could be modified so it can only burn on fireplaces.
18:14 rubenwardy If I was to do it, i would edit the fire mod so that it carries user meta data on spread. I would not delete or light blocks that is owned by enougher player#]
18:14 rubenwardy *it
18:14 Calinou <jordach> experimental beta 304 driver, hmm, *scratches beard*
18:15 Calinou old news, current stable is 313.18...
18:15 rubenwardy not much overhead
18:15 VanessaE but what about lava?
18:15 rubenwardy same thing
18:15 Vadtec VanessaE: that would give me a reason to dive back into C++ :P
18:15 VanessaE isn't the spreading part in C++?
18:15 rubenwardy it is, but
18:15 rubenwardy default:lava_flowing
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18:15 rubenwardy you could just delete those blocks
18:15 VanessaE yeah but something has to copy it with each reflow event
18:16 VanessaE it = the spiller's name
18:16 Vadtec im with VanessaE on this one
18:16 rubenwardy hmmm, that is true
18:16 Vadtec it would need to be done as low level as possible
18:16 VanessaE and that includes figuring out when a user has, say, opened a levee and lava spills out of it
18:17 rubenwardy ^^ (that would be my house's self destruct system ruined)
18:17 Vadtec lol
18:17 Vadtec not if you own the lava and the blocks
18:17 VanessaE given the griefer problem, why don't we already have this kind of stuff in the engine?
18:17 jordach if LM makes something nice, go grief it
18:18 VanessaE jordach: and lower ourselves to his level?
18:18 jordach nope.
18:19 Vadtec ill add it to my list of things to do with MT
18:19 Vadtec i think it would be a great addition
18:19 Vadtec and help combat griefers
18:20 Vadtec and in the case of fire, allow the pyros to burn their plots of land as much as they want while not screwing over others
18:21 Vadtec :P
18:21 VanessaE or at the very least, that's something that belongs in minetest_game
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18:22 jin_xi hmm, i think it would be very cool to be able to hellban griefers
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18:23 M|Infinity_69 Hi rubenwardy
18:24 Vadtec ive been considering making a mod in C++ that allows downloading a file periodically that lists IPs and how many servers they have been banned from
18:24 Vadtec would help with griefers later on
18:24 sfan5 Vadtec: +1
18:25 M|Infinity_69 It youj
18:25 M|Infinity_69 Would
18:25 M|Infinity_69 Thats what she said xD
18:26 M|Infinity_69 Hi
18:26 MinetestBot hi M|Infinity_69
18:26 Vadtec the code would be extremely easy, any time a ban hits, send a cURL request to a webservice and update the file
18:26 M|Infinity_69 !g sfan5
18:26 MinetestBot M|Infinity_69: https://github.com/sfan5
18:26 Vadtec then allow games/servers to download it periodically
18:27 M|Infinity_69 Then do it vadec
18:29 rubenwardy Vadtec: I was looking at doing something like that
18:29 Vadtec ill see if i can setup a web service for it on my web site later
18:30 Vadtec thats really the most complex part of it
18:30 Vadtec the rest would be code tweaks
18:31 rubenwardy found something: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2754
18:31 rubenwardy but not about anti grief list
18:32 rubenwardy that would be else where
18:33 rubenwardy can not find it
18:35 Vadtec this damn fire is still burning....
18:36 VanessaE it'll never go out unless you do some serious clearcutting ;)
18:36 Calinou new moreblocks release!
18:36 Calinou :-D
18:36 VanessaE especially if you have moretrees installed :)
18:36 VanessaE Calinou: what's in it?
18:36 Vadtec how far will fire spread by default?
18:36 VanessaE Vadtec: indefinitely.
18:36 VanessaE depends on how much flammable stuff is around
18:36 Vadtec no i mean, how far can it reach out?
18:37 VanessaE Vadtec: you mean from one node to the next?
18:37 Vadtec yeah
18:37 Vadtec block to block
18:37 VanessaE um..3 I think?
18:38 Calinou VanessaE: new centered, full and directional woodtiles
18:39 Calinou also added setting for placing wood in facedir or not
18:39 Calinou and split up files (and configuration)
18:39 Calinou all your settings are belong to _config.txt
18:40 VanessaE cool
18:40 Vadtec man...my little girl burned like 40 chunks before we managed to get it put out
18:41 Vadtec moretrees sure helped that fire out lol
18:41 VanessaE lol
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18:42 Vadtec those big tall trees burn good
18:42 Vadtec lol
18:47 KikaRz going to install minetest.
18:47 KikaRz any news to the translate system?
18:49 sfan5 translate lua mods?
18:49 Vadtec wow, this water is laggin so bad that even without source blocks it wont de-rez
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18:49 KikaRz sfan5, not that
18:50 sfan5 oh, ok
18:50 KikaRz the new Minetest Translation System
18:50 KikaRz but i can translate mods too.
18:50 Vadtec is there a command to kill flowing water?
18:51 KikaRz well yea.
18:51 KikaRz but... only if you have worldedit
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18:52 Vadtec i do
18:52 KikaRz or you use //replace default:flowing_water default:water_source
18:52 KikaRz or something
18:52 KikaRz or //fixwater (idk if its implemented)
18:52 Vadtec ill use the replace
18:52 KikaRz or //set water_source
18:53 KikaRz idk the block names
18:54 Vadtec wow, neither of those worked, think its time for a server restart
18:54 KikaRz VanessaE, will the "flat" world generating thing be implemented?
18:54 VanessaE KikaRz: it already has been
18:54 KikaRz Vadtec, try another ids...
18:54 KikaRz VanessaE, when?
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18:54 VanessaE you just have to change a flag in worlds/yourworld/map_meta.txt
18:54 VanessaE I don't remember exactly, a few weeks ago at most?
18:54 KikaRz Vadtec, if it said: unknown command or ... the mod is incorrectly installed
18:55 KikaRz VanessaE, but in the Configure menu...
18:55 KikaRz that would be cool
18:55 Vadtec nah, it said zero nodes replaced
18:55 VanessaE you can't do it there.
18:55 KikaRz lol
18:55 KikaRz you must select it
18:55 rotor112 try //set pos or sth
18:55 VanessaE that's something you'd need to do when making a new world.
18:55 Vadtec ...i know how to use worledit people...
18:56 Vadtec the server was likely lagged to badly
18:56 KikaRz P E  ... A N D ... G
18:56 KikaRz whats that on the principal menu?
18:56 KikaRz C LI E  NT
18:56 KikaRz '-'
18:56 KikaRz omg
18:56 VanessaE it's supposed to say "tape and glue"
18:56 Calinou ^
18:56 KikaRz so glitched
18:56 VanessaE it got broken when the TTF code went in I think
18:56 KikaRz yea
18:56 * Calinou doesn't use TTF code
18:56 KikaRz maybe.
18:57 Calinou installing freetype right now
18:57 Vadtec amazing...restarted the server, the water starts to go away
18:57 KikaRz lol
18:57 VanessaE damn, irrlicht takes its sweet time to compile.
18:57 Calinou what's the option to compile using freetype? is it on by default? and what about gettext?
18:57 KikaRz And where is the Public server's list?
18:57 VanessaE there we go.
18:57 Calinou KikaRz: compile using cURL
18:57 KikaRz ...
18:57 KikaRz how?
18:58 KikaRz tell me a line to compile using cURL
18:58 Calinou install cURL then it should automatically compile with cURL
18:58 Calinou (just regenerate the cmake files with "cmake .")
18:58 Calinou heh, -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 works :D
18:58 KikaRz and -DRUN_IN_PLACE 1?
18:59 KikaRz omg
18:59 KikaRz thats confusing
18:59 Calinou only useful for portable installs
18:59 KikaRz i have non portable.
18:59 KikaRz well
18:59 KikaRz i have portable
18:59 KikaRz using drun in place.
18:59 Calinou cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1
18:59 KikaRz -DRUN_IN_PLACE 1?
19:00 KikaRz calinou
19:00 KikaRz Update your one line compile.
19:00 KikaRz or add a new line
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19:01 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/qwKjJ4af
19:02 KikaRz errors occurred
19:02 KikaRz lawl...
19:02 jordach !tw @TheBatman
19:02 KikaRz gangnam style came back to top 100 on place 1.
19:02 MinetestBot jordach: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
19:02 jordach !tw TheBatman
19:02 MinetestBot We already have gun control in Gotham. It’s called “Batman.” (@TheBatman)
19:03 KikaRz Calinou
19:03 KikaRz http://pastebin.com/qwKjJ4af
19:04 KikaRz PilzAdam
19:04 KikaRz why my name isnt on the translation file?
19:05 KikaRz i've done 99,9% of it. you just changed one thing and the credits.
19:05 KikaRz 423
19:05 KikaRz -"- T: Chat"
19:05 KikaRz 423
19:05 KikaRz +"- T: Chat\n"
19:05 KikaRz 11
19:05 KikaRz +"PO-Revision-Date: 2013-02-09 22:01+0200\n"
19:05 KikaRz 12
19:05 KikaRz +"Last-Translator: Pilz Adam <PilzAdam@gmx.de>\n"
19:06 PilzAdam KikaRz, look at the git commit history
19:06 PilzAdam or ohloh
19:06 KikaRz where i see that s**t
19:06 KikaRz ?
19:07 KikaRz found.
19:07 KikaRz you authored a lot of times
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19:07 KikaRz and me too.
19:07 M|Infinity_69 Hi kikarz
19:07 KikaRz 2 days later of the final translate... you come and authore.
19:08 KikaRz M|Infinity_PosOfS*x, hi.
19:08 M|Infinity_69 What did you call me?
19:08 Calinou KikaRz: will do
19:09 sfan5 !tw yourmom
19:09 KikaRz M|Infinity_69, what means the 69?
19:09 KikaRz .-.
19:09 MinetestBot "Modern music is a lot like candy.  Better without the rappers." - I have no clue #quote #ohsnap (@yourmom)
19:09 sfan5 :/
19:09 KikaRz so, not my problem
19:09 M|Infinity_69 Not what you think
19:10 * jordach hates iPad syncing on linux
19:11 VanessaE Calinou: what, no forum post for your new release? :)
19:14 VanessaE (you're killing me with these new blocks.  have you any idea how hard it is to make oddball blocks like these tile properly in HD? ;)
19:14 KikaRz M|Infinity_69, i guess i commented one video that you made.
19:14 * Calinou adds ball blocks to moreblocks
19:15 VanessaE AWWHHHAAHHHSHAHAH!*&@$&%*$@&*(%&$@
19:15 jin_xi more balls
19:15 VanessaE *head explodes*
19:15 jordach can i /kick VanessaE?
19:15 jordach spam.
19:15 sfan5 jordach: you can't you don't have op
19:17 KikaRz ball blocks?
19:17 KikaRz o_o'
19:17 KikaRz VanessaE
19:17 KikaRz are you dead?
19:17 KikaRz :'(
19:17 sfan5 yes she died
19:17 KikaRz NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
19:17 KikaRz :'(
19:17 KikaRz NOOOOOOOOO NONONONONONO
19:17 KikaRz Stalemate detected.
19:17 KikaRz was kicked by sfan5: spam
19:18 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
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19:18 KikaRz ...
19:18 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
19:18 KikaRz :'(
19:18 KikaRz VanessaE, please, come back :(
19:18 KikaRz if you dont come back, i can suicide myself and go with you!
19:19 Calinou *dinner*, bye
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19:19 Calinou have fun remembering 6 new moreblocks recipes and looking at LICENSE.txt which finally says "2013" instead of "2012" :p
19:19 VanessaE Calinou: wait
19:20 Calinou what?
19:20 VanessaE you should do those 3d renders like you did in the more ores thread
19:20 VanessaE for more blocks I mean
19:20 Calinou should do, yeah
19:20 Calinou echo "Make 3D renders for More Blocks thread" >> TODO
19:20 VanessaE heh
19:22 KikaRz YOU BACK!!!
19:22 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
19:22 KikaRz i was just trying to jump off the chair...
19:22 KikaRz ok, i can proceed my process
19:22 KikaRz of suicide for me, life to Vanessa.
19:23 * Calinou suicides to death
19:23 KikaRz byeeeee!
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19:23 KikaRz i'm going to SPAAAAAAAACE with Wheatley, Space Core, and plus.
19:23 * KikaRz is now dead, because she dropped of the chair with a rope at her neck
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19:24 * KikaRz revives.
19:24 john_minetest KikaRz: The turret that is different than the others is way cooler than the stupid cores.
19:24 KikaRz I'm different!
19:25 KikaRz Here we go... Tup Tup Tup Dup...
19:25 KikaRz Uh... you're dieing.
19:25 KikaRz Pa pa pa...
19:25 KikaRz We need Portal mod for Minetest.
19:25 KikaRz I want to make the maps!
19:25 KikaRz mr 313hummer, who is this guy?
19:25 KikaRz i think its Infinity
19:25 KikaRz or Jordach
19:26 VanessaE bbl
19:26 KikaRz VanessaE, bbl = Bao Bao Long?
19:26 VanessaE be back later.
19:26 KikaRz A chinese Nintendo Entretainment System...
19:26 KikaRz '-'
19:26 john_minetest Nintendo 64 beats everything. Wish I had one.
19:27 sfan5 KikaRz: 313hummer == jordan4ibanez == T_A_N_K
19:28 KikaRz Ok
19:28 KikaRz jordan4ibanez.
19:28 KikaRz right.
19:28 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vKtaSjT9s&amp;lc=uO7z3zWhoXUP6GJqJ9NWHpdPiSzaPkfyMoku5TJPUvU
19:28 KikaRz he did this video
19:28 rubenwardy KikaRz!*@* added to ignore list.
19:28 KikaRz ?
19:29 KikaRz Ok, i didn't anything to you...
19:29 KikaRz and i think you're corrupted.
19:29 KikaRz Core Corruption at 100%...
19:29 PilzAdam rubenwardy, everyone in here has that
19:29 jordach sfan5, can i ask you something in pm
19:29 sfan5 sure
19:30 KikaRz well...
19:30 KikaRz i'm going to take a turret to say that words for me...
19:30 rubenwardy KikaRz just writes so much stuff, that is completely irrelevant
19:30 Turret I'm Different!
19:30 KikaRz BetteR?
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19:34 KikaRz not going to say more anything.
19:34 KikaRz i'm out.
19:34 rotor112 what's the license of it? http://loadpaper.com/large/King+Of+Bandit_wallpapers_288.jpg
19:34 rotor112 http://ubuntuone.com/39K62xWtQgl5uIw60FQJej
19:35 rubenwardy rotor112: erm no
19:35 rubenwardy wtf
19:35 rubenwardy what's the license of it? Copyrighted
19:35 rubenwardy duh
19:35 VanessaE "copyrighted" is not a license.
19:36 VanessaE everything with a license is, by definition, copyrighted.
19:36 rubenwardy well, it is not open source
19:36 PilzAdam "All rights reserved"?
19:36 rubenwardy (C) to BBC
19:36 VanessaE that's a little better :)
19:36 VanessaE (I didn't look at the link)
19:36 rubenwardy yes, PilzAdam
19:37 rubenwardy rotor112: do not mock my favorite tv show... :P
19:37 PilzAdam we should have a bot that bans everyone who says "All rights reserved"
19:38 rubenwardy <PilzAdam> "All rights reserved"?
19:38 rubenwardy ^^
19:38 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/shatter/
19:38 rubenwardy A crappy comic website me and some collegues are doing
19:40 rotor112 do you know the selective gaussian blur filtering at gimp?
19:40 rubenwardy yeah, I call him John.
19:42 rubenwardy lol
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19:46 MinetestBot hi artur99
19:55 jordach oh shit
19:55 jordach https://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/
19:55 jordach LINUX SPOTIFY
19:55 * jordach might have a way to sync the ipad
19:57 sfan5 jordach: you just noticed that spotify has a linux version
19:57 jordach yup
19:57 sfan5 i noticed that months ago
20:02 rubenwardy bye
20:02 john_minetest noooooooo. one second before I wanted to write something to rubenwardy :(
20:04 KikaRz-afk Hi.
20:05 KikaRz-afk Everyone who gots me Ignored, i request please, for god safe... remove your ignore from me...
20:05 KikaRz-afk I'm trying to repo my old (and good) attitudes
20:05 KikaRz-afk that attitudes from my changing "era".
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20:26 KikaRz Calinou and Jordach, how do I install my updated drivers? (I don't know my Graphics Card version - NViDia GeForce SUMTHING nForce 400
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20:30 MiJyn sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
20:31 KikaRz Error: E: Não foi possível encontrar o pacote nvidia-current
20:31 KikaRz -- Not able to find the package nvidia-current
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20:31 KikaRz well, i guess this will work... tell me if i did right: sudo apt-get install nvidia-config && sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig && sudo nvidia-xconfig
20:31 PilzAdam what distro are you on?
20:32 KikaRz Debian - Crunchbang
20:32 KikaRz well... Squeeze, Statler.
20:32 KikaRz-DINNER I'll be right back.
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20:43 PilzAdam bye
20:52 KikaRz-DINNER I'm Back
20:55 MiJyn [13:54] <-- Roukoswarf-M has left this server (Quit: Konversation terminated!).
20:55 MiJyn Yay, another konversation user!
20:55 MiJyn xD
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20:56 KikaRz Rebooted computer.... Now drivers are working correctly!
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21:06 mauvebic does mito come on irc?
21:09 * mauvebic starts a small fire and runs away
21:10 * john_minetest puts tons of water on it and makes more damage by doing that than this little fire could ever make
21:10 mauvebic shouldn't you get obsidian or some other stuff?
21:10 mauvebic your water didn't help by the way, it lagged the fire :(
21:11 john_minetest Obsidian? Maybe in a mod but not in the default game iirc.
21:12 mauvebic perhaps in 3 years it will :-) :P
21:14 jin_xi hey mauvebic
21:14 mauvebic howdy how goes it?
21:14 jin_xi a lot of your tools are guns, right?
21:14 mauvebic ive cut down on the guns :P theres just one, the settings are in the inventory
21:15 jin_xi ok, i ask because i made this treegen editor tool and i thought of makin it a treegun
21:15 jin_xi you cool with that?
21:15 mauvebic well you prolly wont use the same texture so i cant imagine people getting confused by that
21:16 * jin_xi requests treegun texture
21:17 jin_xi yes, wont be using same textures. atm its a stick.
21:17 mauvebic technically you could make trees with my guns (setting them to wood/leaves) but even that i doubt ittl confuse ppl, mine shoots balls and cones and shit
21:18 mauvebic i dont even know if ill stick with a 'gun' texture, it doesn't smack of "terrain editor" exactly lol
21:19 mauvebic was thinking either a paint brush or a shovel
21:21 jin_xi yes, thought about it too
21:22 mauvebic lol originally my guns didn't create terrains they destroyed it lol
21:22 jin_xi subtractive editing
21:22 jin_xi but it does make more sense for it to be guns in that case
21:23 mauvebic then i added the terrain stuff, inverted the colors of the gun (easy distinction) then dropped the original guns lol
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21:23 jin_xi maybe an excavator
21:23 jin_xi or a remote control?
21:23 mauvebic you can raise/lower terrain
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21:24 mauvebic remote control?
21:24 mauvebic i suppose if you wanted to modify terrain remotely/automatically there's paramat's mods that do the same thing for you
21:25 mauvebic its weird, lately i get more of a kick out of spawning large buildings, and *making* (molding) the terrain lol
21:25 jin_xi your screenshots are always very impressive
21:25 mauvebic thanks though a little more than half the credit goes to my wife :P she builds alot of the nicer stuff by-hand
21:26 mauvebic she's got a week of leave and she's going nuts on finish her edo kingdom lol
21:27 mauvebic while i spawn ship after ship (imagine the shipyard ill have to build lol)
21:28 mauvebic and for the life of me i can't upload the map anywhere lol so im not sure how to setup visting hours
21:28 jin_xi intergalactic space time
21:29 mauvebic naw i mean it takes forever for people to connect :p
21:29 mauvebic thinking of copying maps + mods and striping down the mods for a special visiting server
21:30 sokomine hi
21:30 MinetestBot hi sokomine
21:30 sokomine hmpf!
21:30 * sokomine doesn't like beeing greeted by a bot
21:30 jin_xi hi sokomine
21:30 sokomine hi jinxi :-)
21:30 mauvebic howdy
21:31 sokomine i could use some help with spawning (again). this time it's not trees i want to spawn close to...it's clay. and maybe desert sand/sand
21:31 mauvebic clay? where do you want it?
21:31 sokomine i want to spawn houses with traders for clay/sand/desert sand close to clay
21:32 mauvebic its to spawn like clay pot craftsmen/trader type posts i imagine?
21:32 mauvebic ah okay
21:32 mrtux hi
21:32 MinetestBot hi mrtux
21:32 sokomine guess both plantlife and mobf provide spawning functions...though it may be better not to rely on them in this case
21:32 mrtux lul
21:32 mauvebic and when you spawn these places, youve already figured out how to do it near water?
21:32 sokomine except that they do not sell clay pot but blocks :-)
21:32 mauvebic well plantlife spawns plants, mobf entities, so you should use watever you use to spawn lumberjack houses
21:33 sokomine mostly so that the landscape doesn't have to be ruined while gathering that stuff
21:33 mauvebic but do you need the clay to appear near the houses, or the water?
21:33 sokomine lumberjack houses are something for people with moretrees installed. clay is part of default...so perhaps something based on default will be best. hm
21:34 mauvebic thats alot of dependencies :/
21:34 sokomine no, i don't want to spawn the clay. i want to spawn close to naturally generated clay
21:34 sokomine hmm. maybe i can plug into that function? has been a while since i glanced at that...
21:34 mauvebic how do you spawn lumberjack houses then, near wood?
21:34 mauvebic or does the tree spawn w/ it
21:34 sokomine by plugging into the tree generation
21:34 VanessaE she spawns them with the trees
21:35 VanessaE I allowed for such a plugin in plants_lib :)
21:35 mauvebic hmm,
21:35 mauvebic well, you could spawn clay pits with the houses the same way
21:35 mauvebic or look for water, or clay, and spawn near there
21:35 sokomine the original intention was to have a lumberjack in a house built out of the same wood the nearby tree consists of. works to some degree
21:35 mauvebic how do you pick your positions?
21:36 sokomine the spawning of clay-traders mostly needs a desert, so it's more standard spawning i think
21:36 sokomine i take the position of the tree and go 5-20 blocks away from it. forms a pattern of four squares where the house may start. it's not as good as a circle but good enough
21:36 mauvebic well, if you want to spawn near clay, then however you choose your initial positions, you need to find_nodes_radius... and look for clay nodes
21:37 mauvebic alternatively run an abm on clay and look for ground level
21:37 mauvebic these things spawn automatically right? the user isn't deciding where it goes?
21:38 VanessaE abm?  bite your tongue.  there spawn on generate. :)
21:38 VanessaE these*
21:38 * khonkhortisan plants a tree in the desert and waits for a logger to show up
21:38 sokomine they spawn automaticly
21:38 mauvebic spawning houses and entities on map generation is a death sentence for emerge thread :p
21:38 VanessaE mauvebic: that's being fixed.
21:39 mauvebic it seems kinda odd that they should *just be there* on generate though
21:39 * sokomine watches as an entire village of lumberjacks accidently spawns around khonkhortisans single tree
21:39 mauvebic even in millenaire they build up the village themsleves (npcs)
21:40 * khonkhortisan watches the lumberjacks battle it out
21:40 sokomine not really. it works relatively good. i do wait about 20 seconds after the tree-gen-call so that the map is hopefully there then. and if nodes are encountered that are still "ignore" it waits some more 20 seconds until the area is loaded
21:40 sokomine got that hint from you, mauvebic :-)
21:40 mauvebic yeah no i checked out millenaire before doing mtcities, but the npc's werent as important to me lol
21:41 mauvebic im really a bigger simcity fan than anything else
21:41 mauvebic i hate FPS's, RPGs lol
21:41 sokomine khonkhortisan: i'm afraid they'll starve to death...no one produces food yet....
21:41 khonkhortisan There's a mod where you die without food?
21:41 sokomine fps?
21:41 sokomine why do you hate frames per second?
21:41 mauvebic first person shooters lol
21:41 khonkhortisan first person shooter, not to be confused with seconds per frame
21:42 sokomine aah
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21:42 mauvebic FPS's are fun for a few days, but you eventually get tired of pro's raising their XP's on your ass lol
21:42 sokomine mauvebic: i like simcity as well
21:42 khonkhortisan The Masked Shadow Enters.
21:42 mauvebic i am/was a huge-ass fan of simcity from 2K to 4k lol
21:43 khonkhortisan I like driving the car around, but intersections with non-moving cars caused a car instacrash
21:43 mauvebic when it comes to modding ive always focused on being able to build the same kind of huge-ass cities
21:43 sokomine eventually i hope to get into a similar direction as you do with mtcities. some kind of buildings need a diffrent (and much easier) approach than building a village...those lumberjacks need the trees. and their houses are small camps. they could house several lumberjacs in a primitive way
21:44 sokomine the clay trader is similar. he has to gather his stuff in the desert and has suitable houses (more or less...at least the material is right)
21:44 mauvebic i liek the trader ideas because it offers another way to build up essential resources without doing it all yourself
21:44 khonkhortisan shrub curtains
21:45 mauvebic though overall i got bored of crafting 9months ago lol
21:45 mauvebic ive had enough jobs where i was paid to move shit from one box to the next, i wont do it for fun lol
21:45 sokomine when enough houses for farmers are ready things will become more difficult...i'm thinkilng of the european form of them (bauernhoefe), not the american farms...though each "farmer" will offer one type of food only. they spezialize on the farming/farming_plus things if those mods are installed
21:45 sokomine spawning them will become...difficult
21:46 khonkhortisan I'll have to fight the farmers for control of building land
21:46 mauvebic my plantlife has a experimental farming thing
21:46 sokomine real medieval farmer houses where relatively large. cattle, people and food where all stored in one huge house
21:47 sokomine one approach might be that you're their landlord and generously allow them to build a random farm on a selected spot (much like mtcities)
21:48 mauvebic well mtcities is more geared towards providing "filler" for cities based on designs you put in yourself
21:48 mauvebic they dont help players get resources tho
21:49 mauvebic i havent used it much yet but i got huge gaps to fill between the 3 districts in my megacity lol
21:49 sokomine ah...yes. parts of manually spawned test houses disappeared again. what's up with my installation? why do changed map chunks not get safed?
21:50 sokomine yes, your buildings look more like real city buildings
21:50 sokomine random_buildings works with worldedit savefiles as well, so adding buildings is not a problem
21:52 mauvebic randombuildings by conernote?
21:52 sokomine no, my mod
21:52 sokomine cornernote's called deploy_nodes
21:53 mauvebic sfan said he's going to change the format though and go w/ something binary, not sure how thatll work with facedirs/metas tho
21:59 mauvebic though honestly ive tried 3 formats and none of them spawn faster,  its the number of nodes * add_node that matters
22:01 mauvebic and the newer minetest can download stuff, so you could setup a server that serves blueprints in digesteable slices lol
22:03 mauvebic what would be cool is a repo for buildings/
22:06 mauvebic not sure if anyone else is interested in startrek blueprints tho lol
22:06 khonkhortisan what would be cool is if I could build something on my private server, then upload the worldedit file to a public one
22:06 mauvebic building repo
22:07 khonkhortisan To send worldedit files, you need access to the server's map directory
22:07 mauvebic naw
22:09 mauvebic you could either upload the schematic using the mod or use POST/GET
22:09 mauvebic with a script on a server saving the blueprint
22:10 mauvebic and serving it up again on request, in slices/increments
22:12 sokomine hm :-) a server that serves blueprints...doesn't sound bad
22:12 sokomine mauvebic: do you by any chance happen to have a next generation romulan warbird at hand?
22:12 mauvebic id do it myself but icant provide persistent hosting (and it would just frutrate ppl)
22:13 mauvebic romulan warbird? hmm
22:13 mauvebic i got the feds, the klingons, 1-2 cardassian and 1 dominion model
22:13 sokomine they're a bit large...would be hard to actually see them. in fact it might be impossible :-(
22:13 sokomine maybe just the head
22:14 sokomine it's very curved so hard to do
22:14 mauvebic the ship is large though its thin all across, i dunno if you could build inside that
22:14 sokomine iirc it is 4 kilometers long
22:14 mauvebic even a scaled defiant looks shiity
22:14 mauvebic not 4km long that cant be
22:16 sokomine it is much larger than the enterpise. don't ask me where the numbers come from. i don't remember
22:16 sokomine but it's huge!
22:16 mauvebic says here
22:16 sokomine suitable for your megaconstructions :-)
22:16 mauvebic Andrew Probert, who designed the D'deridex-class warbird, intended for it to have a length of 4,440 feet (1,353 meters)
22:16 sokomine maybe the head could be done
22:17 sokomine 1300? ah, ok. perhaps that got confused with meters somewhere
22:17 mauvebic so a grid vol of 2476813977
22:17 sokomine still quite large
22:17 sokomine most of it would be empty
22:17 mauvebic yeah i doubt theres' a million nodes there
22:18 mauvebic klingon flagship is 1mil and 1/2
22:19 mauvebic anyways im gonna wait to see what format sfan comes up and you should be able to make prints from meshes in either
22:19 * sokomine hops around happily in anticipation
22:21 mauvebic cant garantee ittl work for everyone, needs specific version of python, extra libs, + binary or source, etc. lol
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22:23 mauvebic problem is 2/3s of it doesnt need to be done ingame lol
22:24 mauvebic so either command line or gui that works on lin/win
22:25 sokomine hm
22:25 sokomine for small buildings (those tiny ones that i spawn) current worldedit format (or yours - doesn't really make a diffrence) is well suited
22:26 Vadtec VanessaE: active?
22:26 mauvebic pyQt?
22:27 sokomine for lager things...i'd like that to work on mapgen-base. as far as i understand it, map data is saved in 16x16x16 chunks and somehow compressed. when exporting a part of a map, a tool might figure out which chunks are concerned, export them to a new sqlite table - and when importing at another position, all that would be required would be recalculation of the chunk adresses - which ought to be much less hassle than anything else
22:28 mauvebic essentially something faster than add node?
22:28 mauvebic you could technically use my meshconverter thingy and put it directly ingame, but you 'd have to know exactly where beforehand, and the cavegen will still work on older versions
22:29 mauvebic not ingame but on the map
22:30 VanessaE Vadtec: I'm here but busy at the moment
22:30 mauvebic though its still iffy cuz i have the run the tool a dozen times to find the right size, and sticking it directly on the map each time would prolly do alot of damage
22:31 Vadtec VanessaE: ping me when you have a free min
22:32 mauvebic naw the simplest avenu is still setting up a building repo, a simple database that serves up prints in any format
22:33 Vadtec has anyone aside from me noticed that the yaw coord is backwards from East-West? it says east is 270 (according to the path of the sun and moon), but east should be 90
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22:34 jfu VanessaE: can I get a password for your server?
22:34 sokomine no, never cared much about yaw. it's too much a break of...patterns to use for orientation
22:34 sokomine jfu: usually you can set your own and just have to request interact
22:35 Vadtec sokomine: "it's too much a break of...patterns to use for orientation" ???
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22:36 sokomine muavebic: it would work on the database level - exchanging one chunk data for another. no add_node or anything. no idea how difficult that would be. but it would be less trouble than large buildings with current methods
22:36 jfu sokomine: aha! ok, i set one... i mostly just want to look around anyways so that is fine
22:36 sokomine vadtec: i usually like to know where north is. the numbers in debug are numbers - which is very diffrent from ingame which is grapics -> break of interface
22:37 mauvebic should add that to F5 - n/s/e/w direction :-)
22:37 sokomine jfu: that you can do anyway. and when vanessa comes back ask her for interact :-)
22:37 VanessaE WHAT WHAT WHAT!?!?!?!?!
22:37 VanessaE :)
22:37 sokomine there are several good buildings alongside the road
22:37 sokomine (or rather roads)
22:37 mauvebic sokomine cant work that way :p the terrain edges wouldn't match
22:38 sokomine no, they wouldn't. and they don't in my current map :-( ran out of disk space and lost the seed number. new seed was diffrent
22:38 Vadtec sokomine: the yaw coord would be handy for a minimap mod, or telling people how to get across the map assuming they dont have fly or tele
22:38 sokomine besides - worldedit or other imports do not care about integration into existing maps either
22:39 Vadtec mauvebic: if they are gonna make it give NSEW id hope they would make it give the rigth compass angle to match the direction, otherwise thats just silly
22:39 sokomine hm, yes, unfortionately minimaps can't be done well yet :-( best thing there is is a compass in your inv
22:40 mauvebic well you can derive a compass direction from yaw and put that in the inventory, same difference
22:40 Vadtec mauvebic: do you really want to have to flop every yaw value to find the *real* direction you are heading?
22:40 mauvebic sokomine depends on how you see integration, my bp's dont save air nodes, so it only prints the full nodes i saved
22:41 mauvebic north-south-east-west, take max yaw and divide by 4, you got your cardinal points
22:41 mauvebic *directions lol
22:41 mauvebic though a /compass command would work better than inventory, inventory you'd have to refresh every time the player changes direction
22:42 Vadtec mauvebic: cept in the current game, 90 degrees is "west" by the path of the sun and moon, when it should be east, ergo, the entire compass is flipped upside down
22:42 mauvebic so were on mirror earth lol
22:42 Vadtec effectively yes
22:43 Vadtec which drives me nuts
22:43 mauvebic henceforth, all the men shall be girls and the girls shall be men
22:43 sokomine there is a compass mod that changes the inventory image according to yaw directino
22:43 mauvebic ah well if somebody's already figured it out
22:43 Vadtec i feel sorry for whoever decided to work with the flipped compass, even if they use it as is
22:44 mauvebic well i think the compass should match the directions that get printed out on the mappers, otherwise its useless
22:44 Vadtec i agree
22:44 Vadtec but that wont stop me from finding where that coord is set in the C++ code and fixing it
22:44 mauvebic id rather the sun/moon were wrong than the map lol
22:45 sokomine you can always donwload that compass-mod and change it according to what you like
22:46 Vadtec sokomine: that wont fix the fact that the sun is coming up in the west when facing "north"
22:47 mauvebic then you need someone fluent in cpp to invert the direction lol
22:47 Vadtec im sure some simple math will fix the compass angle
22:47 * Vadtec is fluent in C++
22:47 Vadtec and C
22:47 Vadtec and a myriad of other langs
22:47 mauvebic good luck w/ the pull request ;)
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22:49 sokomine well, fine :-) there is enough of work to do there :-)
22:49 mauvebic theres no perfect solution though lol i get lost as often on the maps as i do downtown lol
22:51 mauvebic i found meshes of rock formations that could be useful
22:51 mauvebic recognizable natural stuff et all
22:54 khonkhortisan What makes something a rail, drawtype or group?
22:55 mauvebic ?
22:56 mauvebic rail is flat, inclines
22:56 sokomine er...the interpretation of the carts-mod of that node as a rail?
22:56 * khonkhortisan updates his question: How do I search commits on github?
22:57 khonkhortisan I'm going to attempt the rail-connecting-to-rail thing
22:57 sokomine sounds good. there was some issue with raillike beeing used for roofs and not always working as intended
22:58 sokomine it gets especially complicated if you i.e. want to put a raillike window in a otherwise intransparent raillike roof
22:58 sokomine don't know if that's the issue you're talking about
22:58 khonkhortisan the window is flat while the roof is angled
22:58 mauvebic arent rails though usually more than 1m wide?
22:59 khonkhortisan and trains are more than simple boxes
22:59 khonkhortisan wouldn't really be able to play transport tycoon here
22:59 sokomine have a look at those rails smoki did on redcrabs server :-) they are good
22:59 khonkhortisan he had some help
23:00 sokomine at least you'd get ghost trains (or carts) regulary
23:00 sokomine it's still impressive
23:00 khonkhortisan yeah
23:00 khonkhortisan I'd like to see a road made like that
23:00 khonkhortisan with yellow/white lines, traffic lights, and sidewalks
23:01 khonkhortisan ah. Jeija's branch has the rail stuff.
23:01 mauvebic well rail cars would be easier for me to move than ships were lol
23:02 mauvebic though id look nicer if they were nodebex/mesh entities
23:03 mauvebic i just wish the selectionbox's yaw could match the entity's
23:03 mauvebic *collision box
23:04 khonkhortisan Combining technic with worldedit's //rotate and some creativity, it would be possible to make a tank that drives around
23:04 mauvebic i dont get why you need technic or worldedit for that, look to boats rather
23:07 mauvebic i made turrets and npc's and vipers that shoot awhile back, not much different from tanks,
23:08 mauvebic just need boats that move and shoot on land
23:08 khonkhortisan btw, technic framescan't move through water
23:09 mauvebic not yet sure what frames are
23:14 khonkhortisan it's something from minecraft
23:14 mauvebic what do they do?
23:15 khonkhortisan when a frame motor is powered, the frame moves every node directly connected to it
23:15 khonkhortisan useful for a giant mining machine
23:16 Vadtec strip miner? woot
23:16 mauvebic i dont much understand mining machines either, when i got that point i switch to creative-only play
23:17 mauvebic same thing when i did replicators, i was like, why bother? lol
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23:18 mauvebic is it to make room underground to build?
23:18 kaeza greetings
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23:20 khonkhortisan it can't be done in minetest yet, because you need something that is a frame and a mesecon and a tube in the same node
23:23 khonkhortisan haha pull requests have a patch too
23:24 mauvebic fair enough, though its still confusing for me, the game already offers two modes : dig it yourself, or have it all at the ready
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23:25 khonkhortisan the building of the machine could be fun in itself
23:25 khonkhortisan I'd build it in creative if I did
23:27 mauvebic true, i do pipeworks much the same way
23:27 mauvebic especially the gardens
23:28 mauvebic i guess when it comes to mining, i expect these huge machines and open-air pits, and it would probably take more minerals to build large cities like IRl
23:29 mauvebic i grew up around mines lol
23:29 mauvebic (which explains why i dont bother with that now lol)
23:32 khonkhortisan a mining cube would be more difficult to make than a mining worm
23:47 khonkhortisan Carts lag enough I can temporarily throw myself through a wall
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23:50 JesseH Any written documentation of the minetest protocol?
23:51 khonkhortisan I know mods have documentation
23:51 khonkhortisan doc/protocol.txt
23:52 khonkhortisan https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/protocol.txt
23:52 JesseH Thanks mate
23:52 khonkhortisan yw
23:52 JesseH oops I cloned c55's repo
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23:53 khonkhortisan everyone has to change from c55 to the other one
23:53 khonkhortisan oops
23:53 khonkhortisan hi
23:53 MinetestBot hi khonkhortisan
23:53 kaeza I have like 46873 email notifications that now give 404 :(
23:53 JesseH Let me change now, I was wondering why it had no forks >.>
23:54 khonkhortisan I can't think of how to tell google that celeron55/minetest/issues has moved to minetest/minetest/issues
23:54 JesseH :P
23:55 JesseH You should google for the answer
23:57 khonkhortisan 301 redirect wouldn't be quite the right way

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