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Time Nick Message
00:00 JesseH Oh, I was thinking that was some homebrew function he made to check hp, was wondering why it was odd
00:00 jojoa1997 8
00:00 jojoa1997 is this right self.object:get_hp = 20
00:00 kaeza no
00:00 kaeza nonono
00:00 Muadtralk hello!
00:00 aldobr2 nops
00:00 Muadtralk 0.4.4 stable i believe
00:00 Exio > get data
00:00 JesseH Can someone tell me the answer to this "What is the previous stable version of Minetest? (N.N) "
00:00 NekoGloop RE: what's the latest windows build
00:00 jojoa1997 and NekoGloop: 8
00:00 Exio > =
00:00 Muadtralk not much has changed
00:00 JesseH So I can register on the forums.
00:00 aldobr2 0.4.3
00:00 jojoa1997 oh i thought you meant windows os
00:00 JesseH 0.5 then?
00:01 Muadtralk aldobr2
00:01 JesseH opps
00:01 JesseH 0.4
00:01 Muadtralk your late
00:01 jojoa1997 " is this right self.object:get_hp = 20" then how do i set hp
00:01 aldobr2 jojoa1997 : you probably want to do something like self:set_hp(20)
00:01 jojoa1997 in the loop?
00:02 aldobr2 (its there a set_hp function ?)
00:02 aldobr2 in the line 126
00:02 jojoa1997 self.object:get_hp() = 20
00:02 aldobr2 write that to your mind, you cannot assign a value to a function call
00:02 NekoGloop your code is broken already
00:02 aldobr2 never
00:02 aldobr2 if it ends with () its a function call, you cannot assign value to it
00:02 NekoGloop it's "if self.object:get_hp() == 20"
00:02 aldobr2 (formally, it cannot be on the left side of an assignment)
00:02 jojoa1997 i did not write it
00:02 iqualfragile PilzAdam: na, on a per player basis, so every player can get into pvp mode and fight others or stay peacefull and not getting harmed
00:02 jojoa1997 i only edited it
00:03 aldobr2 function calls can only be on the right side of an assignment
00:03 aldobr2 let me check object ref
00:03 PilzAdam iqualfragile, so if you are loosing you just turn pvp off and the other cant give you the final hit?
00:04 aldobr2 jojoa1997 change the line to self.set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2 or self:set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2 hm
00:04 iqualfragile PilzAdam: you could just make one unable to turn off pvp a hit was recived less than 20 sec ago
00:04 aldobr2 its self.object:set_hp(20)
00:04 aldobr2 :D
00:05 aldobr2 omg
00:05 kaeza anyone here uses windows and is abit free to do some testing?
00:05 aldobr2 its doing collision detection in lua
00:05 jojoa1997 yay no more errors FOR THAT
00:05 aldobr2 its there a true reason for that ?
00:05 aldobr2 isnt the engine doing collision detection already ?
00:05 jojoa1997 add_item:(self.object:getpos(), "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:05 jojoa1997 lua: init.lua:418: '<name>' expected near '('
00:06 jojoa1997 do i make it add_item:(self.object:getpos, "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:06 aldobr2 hm
00:07 aldobr2 use that code to drop arbitrary objects
00:07 aldobr2 http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:07 moltenbot aldobr2's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:08 JesseH Zephyrus1497, Taking too long to download the media, so I canceld.
00:08 aldobr2 ops
00:08 jojoa1997 when i change it it still has the error
00:08 aldobr2 change the function name
00:08 aldobr2 add_item:( <-doesnt make sense
00:08 aldobr2 : or . is used to reference a member
00:08 jojoa1997 where do i put this http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:08 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:09 jojoa1997 i want to make the npcs drop a mese crystasl when i kill them
00:09 JesseH I wanna play, who has a server hehe
00:09 aldobr2 let me see your code again
00:09 aldobr2 JesseH use redcrab's server
00:09 aldobr2 i play there
00:09 jojoa1997 drop_item:(self.object:getpos, "deafult:mese_crystal")
00:09 aldobr2 174.129.196.242
00:09 JesseH kk
00:10 aldobr2 port 30401
00:10 aldobr2 drop_item:( makes no sense
00:10 aldobr2 show me your code again
00:10 aldobr2 omg
00:10 aldobr2 i will fix that thing
00:10 aldobr2 send me a zip containing all files for the mod
00:10 JesseH Im on
00:11 jojoa1997 one sec
00:11 aldobr2 JesseH press T to talk in game
00:11 aldobr2 press T and then type /setemail your@email.com
00:11 jojoa1997 i need to give you a semi fixed version
00:11 jojoa1997 aldobr2 my mod
00:12 aldobr2 JesseH then check your email account
00:12 kaeza what's the easiest way to get the position of an arbitrary player?
00:12 aldobr2 kaeza
00:13 kaeza yes?
00:13 jojoa1997 how do i set what it drops http://pastebin.com/fCgan9Xv
00:13 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Lua] drop item - Pastebin.com
00:13 JesseH were are you aldobr2
00:13 aldobr2 kaeza iterate the object list ?
00:14 aldobr2 JesseH i am not online now
00:14 kaeza I thought so
00:14 JesseH oh, because idk what to do haha
00:14 aldobr2 well
00:14 aldobr2 redcrab use area protection
00:14 aldobr2 so you will spawn in an area where you cant build (spawn city)
00:14 kaeza for _,obj in minetest.find_objects_in_range(...) do if(obj:is_player()) ...
00:14 kaeza is that right?
00:15 aldobr2 dunno
00:15 aldobr2 i believe you know better than me
00:15 NekoGloop can I get a TL;DR of the conversation?
00:15 aldobr2 looks about right
00:15 kaeza hmm
00:15 kaeza have to test
00:15 * kaeza expects a server crash soon
00:15 aldobr2 JesseH so you find unclaimed area to dig
00:15 aldobr2 1st : get wood
00:16 aldobr2 2nd : craft wood planks
00:16 aldobr2 3rd : craft sticks
00:16 aldobr2 4 : make a wooden pickaxe
00:16 aldobr2 dig
00:16 aldobr2 for cobble
00:16 aldobr2 etc
00:16 JesseH Oh, cool
00:16 aldobr2 do you know minecraft ?
00:16 JesseH I do :P
00:16 aldobr2 its about the same
00:16 aldobr2 ok, then you dont need that explanation
00:16 Zephyrus1497 JessH wat server r u on?
00:16 aldobr2 :P
00:17 JesseH Zephyrus1497, 174.129.196.242
00:17 JesseH lets party up Zephyrus1497
00:17 Zephyrus1497 wats the port?
00:17 JesseH 30401
00:17 kaeza hmm seems no one cared about my fix to add texture transforms to the lua api
00:17 kaeza :(
00:18 iqualfragile NekoGloop: its called summary not tl;dr
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00:21 JesseH anyway to make the screen bigger
00:22 aldobr2 maximize it
00:23 JesseH :/
00:23 aldobr2 :P
00:23 JesseH I knew that
00:23 JesseH :D
00:23 JesseH When are you getting on
00:23 aldobr2 dont know why fullscreen wasnt implemented
00:23 aldobr2 not now
00:23 aldobr2 i am writing code
00:23 JesseH :C
00:23 aldobr2 for a telephone
00:23 aldobr2 a telephone booth on minetest
00:23 aldobr2 :D
00:23 Renoki joined #minetest
00:23 NekoGloop it is implemented
00:24 JesseH I imagine I will be writing plenty of code too, but I feel like playing atm
00:24 Renoki lazy.
00:24 aldobr2 my internet is laggy atm
00:24 Renoki j/k
00:24 aldobr2 actually
00:24 aldobr2 i am not laggy
00:24 aldobr2 the problem is that i am using wireless
00:24 aldobr2 and minetest hates lost packets
00:24 aldobr2 and wireless loses a lot of packets
00:24 aldobr2 so i only play at night when the spectrum is clear
00:25 JesseH :P
00:25 JesseH It is night for me.,
00:25 aldobr2 i mean, late at night
00:25 aldobr2 like 1am
00:25 JesseH Oh, well I might start on a mod or something about that time :P
00:25 JesseH Late is when I get coding done.
00:26 aldobr2 omg
00:26 aldobr2 github is on maintenance
00:26 aldobr2 :/
00:26 JesseH :O
00:26 JesseH End of the world
00:26 NekoGloop that was yesterday
00:27 NekoGloop And you're in heaven unknowingly, playing on a computer
00:27 aldobr2 the 2k12 mayan bug
00:27 SpeedProg1 joined #minetest
00:27 aldobr2 luckly the universe was done in pearl, not in mayan language
00:27 mauvebic if i was in heaven my wife would be in the kitchen for the first time :p
00:27 aldobr2 so everything went fine
00:27 aldobr2 :D
00:28 mauvebic without setting anything on fire... :p
00:28 NekoGloop the universe was done in LUA
00:28 NekoGloop That's why there's so many flaws
00:28 aldobr2 whats wrong with lua ?
00:28 aldobr2 :(
00:29 mauvebic for i = life,forever_alone, do ... end ?
00:29 aldobr2 i find lua quite a nice language
00:29 mauvebic for the do ... end bit you can do:
00:29 aldobr2 i am not very partisan towards duck typing but...
00:29 mauvebic britney_spears() ... adds 1-2gbs
00:29 aldobr2 its nice
00:30 mauvebic :P
00:30 mauvebic lua is nice
00:30 aldobr2 i first learned javascript, then lua
00:30 OldCoder Lua is quite interesting
00:30 aldobr2 for me its almost the same language with different names
00:30 OldCoder Really small
00:31 aldobr2 all those languages are derived from a language known as self
00:31 OldCoder Remind me to bring the Masked Lua here sometime :-)
00:31 cisoun joined #minetest
00:32 aldobr2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_%28programming_language%29
00:32 moltenbot aldobr2's link: Self (programming language) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:32 mauvebic me in order (whatever type of language) basic -> html (+css, javacript) -> perl -> php ...etc.. lol
00:32 PilzAdam cisoun, you are the creator of the default texture pack, right?
00:32 aldobr2 In 2006, Self was still being developed as part of the Klein project, which was a Self virtual machine written fully in Self. <- this is quite confusing
00:32 mauvebic i havent done any php in 10 years tho
00:32 mauvebic so there was obviously long periods in between :p
00:33 mauvebic i tried to learn java several times over the years
00:33 mauvebic sold alot books cheap too lol
00:33 PilzAdam mauvebic, HTML is not a programming language
00:34 iqualfragile1 aldobr2: its ever more confusing fhen you allso speak german
00:34 mauvebic its a type of language
00:34 iqualfragile1 klein means litle
00:34 mauvebic and its where alot of people start
00:34 PilzAdam marktraceur, its a *markup* language
00:34 mauvebic so?
00:34 PilzAdam thats a huge difference
00:35 mauvebic its a gateway language to other languages so thats obviously not bad :p
00:35 PilzAdam ever seen a for-loop in HTML?
00:35 aldobr2 html is not (formally) a programming language, but it is a language, a description language
00:35 mauvebic why would anyone do that? lol
00:35 aldobr2 to be a programming language it needs to be turing complete
00:35 mauvebic html like css is a formatting language
00:35 aldobr2 but a description language dont need to be turing complete
00:36 mauvebic idc if its a formatting, dynamic, or compiled language, whenever theres a particular syntax in play, i consider it a languag
00:36 PilzAdam mauvebic, every nerd on earth will kill you if you tell him that HTML is a programming language
00:36 aldobr2 so, html is a description language
00:36 aldobr2 yes
00:36 aldobr2 if theres a grammar, its a language
00:36 mauvebic call it how you will :p
00:36 mauvebic most people start w/ that
00:36 PilzAdam I call it markup language
00:37 PilzAdam (guess what the ML in HTML means)
00:37 kaeza I need a bit of help
00:37 mauvebic markup language - markup = language
00:37 kaeza I got this error:  ServerError: LuaError: error: .../diego/.minetest/games/testing/mods/irc/callback.lua:60: bad argument #-2 to 'get_objects_inside_radius' (number expected, got nil)
00:37 aldobr2 perl joke : if perl pass up as a language, anything can be a language too
00:37 kaeza here's the relevant code: http://pastebin.com/pPVyvreC
00:37 moltenbot kaeza's link: [Lua] local list = minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius({0,0,0}, 100000);  for _, ob - Pastebin.com
00:37 mauvebic the radius variable isnt set
00:38 PilzAdam kaeza, wtf is that ";" at the end of the line?
00:39 PilzAdam this isnt C or Java
00:39 aldobr2 :P
00:39 kaeza PilzAdam: I like to add ';'
00:39 kaeza and Lua supports it
00:39 PilzAdam also if () then
00:39 PilzAdam you dont need the brackets
00:39 mauvebic ; == php :p
00:40 kaeza I know
00:40 kaeza It makes it easier to read
00:40 slacko9593 joined #minetest
00:40 PilzAdam no, it doesnt
00:40 kaeza areyoukiddingme.jpg
00:40 NekoGloop ; == C, C++, java, all bad programming languages
00:40 aldobr2 NekoGloop why ?
00:41 Jakssoul Hola amigos!
00:41 PilzAdam kaeza, you should use the standard syntax for a programming language
00:41 kaeza anyway nvm the formatting
00:41 kaeza any clue on the error?
00:41 PilzAdam and not try to use the one from others
00:41 Jakssoul Noooopeee!
00:41 kaeza that is MY style; not from others
00:41 Jakssoul I installed Xubuntu. Guessss what!?
00:42 kaeza Jakssoul: hablas español???
00:42 Jakssoul It doesn't like my Broadcom wireless card.
00:42 PilzAdam kaeza, maybe the number is too large
00:42 Jakssoul Yo hablo espanol, si.
00:42 NekoGloop Linux == your hardware -will- fail
00:42 kaeza PilzAdam: apparently misc.lua uses that also and the number is much bigger
00:42 PilzAdam dunno
00:42 PilzAdam oh, wait
00:42 kaeza ohhhh
00:42 kaeza crap
00:42 Jakssoul Apparently Broadcom is the only chipset for Wireless that *ubuntu doesn't like.
00:42 kaeza yes
00:42 PilzAdam {x=0, y=0, z=0}
00:43 kaeza I noticed now
00:43 kaeza thanks PilzAdam
00:43 PilzAdam no problem
00:44 Jakssoul How's the Minetest going, guys? Sure wish Linux wasn't being a jerk so I could enjoy it too. xD Hahaha.
00:44 PilzAdam damn, GitHub is "down for maintenance"
00:44 kaeza wot?
00:44 NekoGloop well at least github now admits they have a problem
00:44 kaeza fck
00:44 kaeza and I was going to do a git push right now :(
00:44 aldobr2 they are running fsck :D
00:45 aldobr2 init 3
00:45 OldCoder Jakssoul, It is Broadcom that does not like Linux. But that may change.
00:45 aldobr2 fsck /dev/as0d1
00:45 OldCoder Jakssoul, use fwcutter to solve the problem
00:45 aldobr2 :D
00:45 kaeza aldobr2: ...
00:45 aldobr2 :}
00:45 * kaeza is not amused
00:46 aldobr2 i dont like github
00:46 aldobr2 i use svn instead
00:46 aldobr2 on googlecode
00:46 aldobr2 dont understand the need for yet another version control system
00:46 mauvebic joined #minetest
00:46 Exio OldCoder: ubuntu now uses wl, the 'closed' driver, not the free *included in the kernel* + the closed firmware
00:47 kaeza I don't understand the need for 46896128345892534 different linux distros, but oh well, everyone has their tastes
00:47 Exio well, at least it used wl here and in some other laptops
00:47 Jakssoul So basically, I'm just out of luck?
00:47 NekoGloop So basically, you shouldnt use Linux.
00:47 Exio why not NekoGloop?
00:47 OldCoder Exio, all right
00:47 Jakssoul Then what do you recommend?
00:48 Jakssoul If you say Windows, I'll cry.
00:48 Jakssoul xD
00:48 NekoGloop Use DOS
00:48 jordan4ibanez Use bsd
00:48 OldCoder kaeza, Same as different MT worlds. Everyone says theirs is the best. I like *MY* distro the best :-)
00:48 jordan4ibanez pcbsd
00:48 aldobr2 you dont need to be a hacker to use linux :/
00:48 kaeza OldCoder: yeah!!
00:48 kaeza \o/
00:48 NekoGloop yeah you have to be, aldobr2
00:48 aldobr2 nope
00:48 NekoGloop in order to make it work, anyway
00:48 Jakssoul I don't think I could use DOS.
00:48 aldobr2 thats an elitist attitude
00:48 PilzAdam gtg; bye
00:48 OldCoder Somebody unbanned jordan4ibanez? Fine. I trust they passed a warning on to him.
00:48 Exio bye PilzAdam
00:48 OldCoder Not unbanned; excuse me. Revoiced.
00:49 Exio 'revoiced'? unquieted?
00:49 NekoGloop what the hell did he do to be muted
00:49 OldCoder Yes
00:49 jordan4ibanez Oh oldcoder, i forgot to remute you on my client, whoopsies
00:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, not important ATM
00:49 jordan4ibanez I called oldcoder out
00:49 jordan4ibanez Said he shouldn't be op, the normal stuff
00:49 OldCoder Heh
00:49 OldCoder Ops have fewer rights than members
00:50 OldCoder Let's be clear about that
00:50 Jakssoul I just died laughing.
00:50 NekoGloop So here is the example of the Third Alice
00:50 OldCoder It's a core principle of mine
00:50 Jakssoul That was wonderful.
00:50 OldCoder Kind of a headache really
00:50 OldCoder To have principles
00:50 * OldCoder chuckles
00:50 NekoGloop OldCoder: stop being a dick, we like you only because you are fair
00:50 OldCoder NekoGloop, you like me? Good
00:50 OldCoder Fair is right
00:50 Exio he loves you*
00:50 OldCoder It is the way things should be
00:50 Jakssoul So, anybody have any recommendations for something not crazy for me to use as an OS? (Not Windows, Mac, or DOS)
00:51 OldCoder Jakssoul, Indicate your priorities
00:51 aldobr2 Jakssoul try opensuse (i love opensuse)
00:51 OldCoder What matters to you in an OS
00:51 kaeza Jakssoul: Puppy Linux
00:51 OldCoder Wait... let's hear what he looks for
00:51 NekoGloop OldCoder: Stop being the third alice...
00:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, O.K. BTW I am glad to see you well.
00:51 * VanessaE peeks in, puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head, and hides
00:51 VanessaE hi all ;-)
00:51 kaeza hey hey V
00:51 OldCoder Jakssoul, tell us what you have tried before again
00:51 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi!
00:51 OldCoder And nobody bash any OS...
00:51 Jakssoul I'd like to play Minetest, use Skype, and simple internet browsing. Preferably open source, because I want to learn a whole lot more about what I'm using and be able to maybe make some applications for it.
00:52 aldobr2 upensuse is usually quite easy to install and use
00:52 VanessaE thexyz: of course you can't - you can't see the page right now anyway, github is down :-)
00:52 * NekoGloop throws the kitten at OldCoder
00:52 OldCoder Jakssoul, here is a fair suggestion. Try some LiveCDs
00:52 NekoGloop VanessaE: thanks for the ammo
00:52 VanessaE lol
00:52 * OldCoder plucks kitten out of air and sets it down gently
00:52 aldobr2 yast can solve almost all problems by itself
00:52 Jakssoul I have used Windows (CRAP), can't afford Mac crap, Puppy linux, all of the major *ubuntus, uhmm... Slax, Slitaz...
00:52 OldCoder Jakssoul, Linux Mint?
00:52 aldobr2 Jakssoul like i said, try opensuse
00:53 * aldobr2 is on the RPM side of the holy war
00:53 NekoGloop I've tried Windows and Ubuntu. Only windows loads.
00:53 OldCoder Jakssoul, here is a deal... I will make a distro for people here
00:53 Jakssoul Opensuse doesn't look like it really has what I need. Linux Mint? I thought about it. Is it really any good?
00:53 NekoGloop So which is better?
00:53 OldCoder What shall it be called?
00:53 OldCoder Nekosoul
00:53 OldCoder How about that?
00:53 VanessaE Jakssoul: Mint is good
00:53 OldCoder What should be in the distro? I will actually make one
00:53 VanessaE it's basically Ubuntu with some goodies added
00:53 Jakssoul Do you think it will play nice with my Broadcom wireless card?
00:53 OldCoder How about a 3" CD that fits in your shirt pocket and runs MT?
00:53 OldCoder Jakssoul, Yes
00:54 OldCoder I can support Broadcom
00:54 OldCoder So can Mint I think
00:54 Jakssoul Oh, and VanessaE, thank you for the instructions on installing Xubuntu! It worked.
00:54 kaeza OldCoder: It should be both lightweight and filled with features at the same time IMHO
00:54 JesseH OldCoder, You are going to make a linux distro?
00:54 OldCoder Of course!
00:54 Jakssoul But it doesn't like my wireless card.
00:54 kaeza that's why I loved Puppy
00:54 OldCoder JesseH, I have for 15 years
00:54 OldCoder I will make a new MT distro too
00:54 JesseH Really?
00:54 JesseH Can I try it out?
00:54 OldCoder Sure
00:54 OldCoder Hold on
00:54 Jakssoul KAEZA! Puppy doesn't like Minetest!
00:54 VanessaE Jakssoul: excellent!
00:55 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistrogames.html
00:55 moltenbot OldCoder's link: Distro screenshots: Games
00:55 aldobr2 Jakssoul i advise you to use opensuse
00:55 Jakssoul That was my original goal, if you remember. That's why I'm in #minetest.
00:55 OldCoder JesseH, most people have seen that
00:55 OldCoder But you have not; therefore, there are my games
00:55 kaeza Jakssoul: yes I remember
00:55 Jakssoul aldobr2: Opensuse doesn't seem functional enough from what I have seen in reviews.
00:55 * kaeza has bad memory
00:55 OldCoder I can make a 3" minicd that works anywhere and runs MT 0.4.4 client server
00:55 aldobr2 Jakssoul explain, what you mean by functional ?
00:55 VanessaE Jakssoul: since you've got Ubuntu under the hood now, you may as well stick with it.  It's well-supported, easy to use, and generally "just works".
00:55 aldobr2 http://www.opensuse.org/pt-br/
00:55 moltenbot aldobr2's link: openSUSE.org
00:56 Jakssoul Vanessae: That
00:56 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/ssdistro/ssdistromedia.html
00:56 moltenbot OldCoder's link: Distro screenshots: Multimedia
00:56 JesseH OldCoder, What is the point of the distro, is it's aim to better anything?
00:56 Jakssoul Sorry. That's not going to work, it doesn't like my Broadcom Wireless Chipset.
00:56 JesseH Also the games you made?
00:56 OldCoder JesseH, I will link the history instead of take up channel to explain
00:56 Exio ask in #ubuntu about it Jakssoul
00:56 OldCoder Hold on
00:56 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/distro/distrohistory.html
00:56 moltenbot OldCoder's link: Distro history
00:57 JesseH I always wanted to make my own linux distro, just not until I knew why I was going to do it :P
00:57 OldCoder JesseH answer is there
00:57 Jakssoul Exio, it's a huge issue with everyone that has Broadcom chipsets.
00:57 OldCoder JesseH, My story may help. Read that link above.
00:57 JesseH kk :D
00:57 OldCoder Sometimes things evolve
00:57 Jakssoul But to fix it, I need a wired connection. Which is 100% unavailable.
00:57 OldCoder Distro is for you
00:57 OldCoder Make a distro that you like
00:57 OldCoder That... is the perfect distro
00:58 Exio Jakssoul: i'm using one atm
00:58 Jakssoul Using one what?
00:59 Exio broadcom wireless
00:59 Jakssoul On *ubuntu?!?!?!
00:59 Jakssoul What kind of black magic do you possess?!
00:59 Exio 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
00:59 Jakssoul THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE!
00:59 Exio nope, not ubuntu, gentoo at this moment
00:59 Jakssoul oH.
00:59 Jakssoul Oh*. That's different.
00:59 Exio but using vanilla
00:59 Jakssoul Mine works with Puppy linux just fine.
00:59 Exio different? why?
00:59 VanessaE ugh
00:59 VanessaE Broadcom.
01:00 VanessaE the bane of Linux users across the globe.
01:00 Jakssoul *ubuntu doesn't like it. I don't know why.
01:00 Exio ah, i think you had problems everywhere :P
01:00 VanessaE Jakssoul: probably it needs Broadcom firmware, which is non-free.
01:00 VanessaE e.g. ndiswrapper or whatever it's called
01:00 Jakssoul Oh no, I'm ripping off my neighbors internet using my Slacko Puppy with that wireless card right now! (kidding.) Using my own internet.
01:00 Exio Jakssoul: lspci | grep -E '(wl|b43)'
01:00 Exio in your ubuntu box
01:01 Jakssoul Yeah, VanessaE, I know. I can't install it from Xubuntu because I don't have a wired connection!
01:01 Exio VanessaE: hm? ndiswrapper is for 'using' windows drivers in linux :P
01:01 Exio network drivers mainly, i don't know if it supports others
01:01 Jakssoul Exio, same issue I just said for that little line of terminal code you said.
01:01 VanessaE Exio: I know, which is commonly used to enable the use of Broadcom chipsets, or used to be.
01:02 Jakssoul I have Xubuntu installed on my Hard Drive, and am running Slacko Puppy on my flash drive. Can I VB the Xubuntu to try to get things rolling?
01:02 Exio i only see ndiswrapper for broadcoms in very old forums :P
01:02 Exio before wl
01:02 OldCoder Exio, I use fwcutter
01:02 OldCoder For Broadcom support
01:02 OldCoder No NDIS needed
01:02 Exio same here
01:03 Exio and i'm not using wl because lazyness
01:03 Jakssoul I would use fwcutter, as all of the sources have told me to, but no tengo un connecion de internet con ethernet.
01:03 Jakssoul Hahaha.
01:03 OldCoder Jakssoul, people can send you pieces
01:03 Exio Jakssoul: spanish?
01:03 VanessaE Jakssoul: you can mount your Ubuntu partitions from puppy and then download the .deb files you need, stick them in on the Ubuntu partition, then switch back over to that OS and instlal them
01:03 VanessaE install*
01:03 Exio i had a .deb with the firmware *v4*
01:03 aldobr2 i hate ubuntu
01:03 VanessaE aldobr2: wfm.
01:03 aldobr2 its against all my deeply held beliefs
01:04 Jakssoul What do those consist of, aldobr2?
01:04 Exio brb
01:04 Jakssoul VanessaE, could you give me a site with more specific instructions or something?
01:04 aldobr2 i dont know how to express in english :D
01:05 Jakssoul What language is native for you?
01:05 aldobr2 portuguese
01:05 Jakssoul Try me.
01:05 aldobr2 hard to explain
01:05 aldobr2 i would advice you to download and try opensuse
01:05 Jakssoul I know Latin, Italian, and Spanish. I might be able to translate some portuguese.
01:05 JesseH OldCoder, Pretty cool stuff O.o
01:05 aldobr2 in all computers i tested, it works flawlessly right from the start
01:05 Jakssoul I'll give OpenSuse a chance tomorrow on a Live USB installation. Okay?
01:06 aldobr2 it has a longer development time than debian/ubuntu
01:06 Jakssoul For now, I want to try to get Xubuntu working with my wireless card.
01:06 kaeza VanessaE: does obj:get_pos() work with players
01:06 kaeza ?
01:06 Jakssoul Be right back.
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01:07 kaeza fck
01:07 VanessaE Jakssoul: boot puppy, open a terminal, mkdir /mysystem ; mount /dev/sda1 /mysystem (put in the right partition name); fire up a browser in puppy, search for the .debs you need on packages.ubuntu.com, download what you need, copy to /mysystem.  Reboot, look in / and you should see the .deb's you downloaded.  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
01:07 kaeza sorry to disturb... my mistake, it was getpos()
01:08 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4187
01:08 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: About the IRC (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
01:08 VanessaE https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
01:08 VanessaE Jakssoul: ^^^^^ go there for instructions on how to make it work
01:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: haha now Molten is ignoring you :3
01:08 VanessaE use your puppy install to fetch any files you may need.
01:09 VanessaE NekoGloop: iqualfragile1 set it that way because I hate moltenbot :-)
01:10 jojoa1997 help i get this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png here is the code http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:10 kaeza ok another crappy forum post, could you please get your personal quarrels off here?
01:10 NekoGloop kaeza: it's not my quarrel
01:11 NekoGloop but since he's banned for no reason
01:11 NekoGloop I have to post it
01:11 kaeza nvm, don't want to discuss this. just forget what i said
01:12 Jakssoul Back
01:12 jojoa1997 i need help. i get this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png here is the code http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:12 jojoa1997 can anyone help
01:12 kaeza jojoa1997: checking...
01:13 jojoa1997 k
01:13 aldobr2 jojoa1997 wheres the error ?
01:13 aldobr2 what line ?
01:13 kaeza jojoa1997: can you post the code again?
01:13 jojoa1997 393
01:13 jojoa1997 http://ompldr.org/vZ3Nvcg/init.lua
01:14 aldobr2 put it on pastebin
01:14 aldobr2 i cant count lines
01:14 aldobr2 ¬¬
01:14 jojoa1997 i have pasted too many things
01:14 Jakssoul Okay, thanks VannesaE, I didn't realize I could get the files from Puppy and move them to  my HDD that way.
01:14 jojoa1997 it says and i cant get an acount
01:14 jojoa1997 one sec
01:15 aldobr2 i copied the source to notepad++
01:15 aldobr2 line 393 looks innocent
01:15 VanessaE Jakssoul: oh sure.  no prob.  for future reference:  you can do that from any linux to any other linux and generally from linux to a win partition also.
01:16 VanessaE Jakssoul: if you should need to fix someone's broken machine at some time, you should be able to use puppy to get you access enough to download files/drivers
01:16 aldobr2 i used puppy once
01:16 aldobr2 its nice
01:16 Jakssoul VanessaE: You're fantastic. Can't wait until I'm not a complete newbie and can be helping people like you have for me. I appreciate it so much.
01:16 aldobr2 but i feel "constrained"
01:16 Jakssoul Why do you feel that way?
01:16 VanessaE Jakssoul: no problem.  hang around, chat, write a mod, play the game some.  you'll be happy here I'm sure :-)
01:16 aldobr2 Jakssoul pls try opensuse someday
01:17 jojoa1997 error saidattempt to index feild 'env' (a nill value)
01:17 Jakssoul aldobr2: I will install it to one of my dozens of Flash Drives tomorrow, don't worry.
01:18 aldobr2 local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20); <- this is line 393, how can env be nil ?!?
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01:18 jojoa1997 look at the pic http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:18 kaeza jojoa1997: can you use pastebin to show me line 393?
01:18 kaeza not the error
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01:19 aldobr2 yes this says that env is a nil value
01:19 aldobr2 how the f* can env be nil ?
01:19 NekoGloop because minetest.env
01:19 aldobr2 and ?
01:19 jojoa1997 [20:14] <jojoa1997> i have pasted too many things
01:19 jojoa1997 [20:14] <jojoa1997> it says and i cant get an acount
01:19 VanessaE eh?
01:19 jojoa1997 cant make an account
01:19 NekoGloop well you have jordan muted so he cant help
01:20 kaeza jojoa1997: then post here *ONLY* line 393
01:20 jojoa1997 i wont make an account on it
01:20 NekoGloop so in other words, you're fucked
01:20 aldobr2 kaeza
01:20 aldobr2 local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:20 jojoa1997 hold on
01:20 kaeza wot?
01:20 aldobr2 i dont understand
01:20 jojoa1997 local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:20 aldobr2 the error says that env is a nil value
01:20 jojoa1997 wont
01:20 kaeza hmm
01:20 aldobr2 im perplexed
01:20 kaeza indeed the line is right
01:20 aldobr2 how can env be nil ?
01:20 VanessaE jojoa1997: use a different pastebin then, such as http://paste.dy.fi/
01:21 aldobr2 how can env be nil anywhere in the whole darn script ?
01:21 jojoa1997 i speak english only
01:21 kaeza aldobr2: maybe some bad written mod is changin minetest.env to nil?
01:21 aldobr2 yes
01:21 VanessaE jojoa1997: just paste and click the "Pastaa" button :-)
01:21 aldobr2 thats what i tought
01:21 aldobr2 a major screw up
01:21 jojoa1997 k
01:21 Jakssoul jojoa1997, por que no hablas espanol? Necessitas aprender espanol ahora!
01:21 OldCoder JesseH, ty
01:21 kaeza Necesitas*
01:21 jojoa1997 i am learning it inschool
01:21 Jakssoul See? Two years of Spanish class and I'm a pro! ;)
01:22 jojoa1997 not me
01:22 Jakssoul It was sarcasm.
01:22 kaeza Yo hablo español desde que nací ^_^
01:22 celeron55 OldCoder: you shouldn't ban or mute jordan4ibanez just because he says you shouldn't be an op
01:22 jojoa1997 what is the word for lua
01:22 celeron55 OldCoder: otherwise you just maybe shouldn't be
01:23 jojoa1997 found it
01:23 aldobr2 yo no hablo español
01:23 jojoa1997 http://paste.dy.fi/D1U
01:23 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:23 aldobr2 eu falo português :D
01:24 celeron55 OldCoder: it's not like his sayings would have any effect on the thing anyway, except if you react to them like a child
01:24 jojoa1997 hablo un poco español pero pr favor no hablas en español
01:24 jordan4ibanez Thanks
01:24 aldobr2 kaeza cant find "minetest.env = something" anywhere in the source
01:24 Jakssoul Baha! This is fun! :D
01:24 jojoa1997 http://paste.dy.fi/D1U this is the code
01:24 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:25 OldCoder celeron55, More complicated than that. It may come down to him or I. I am sort of preoccupied these days. He keeps it up then he goes or I do. But let me focus on actual MT things today please.
01:25 jojoa1997 is it the local list part
01:25 jordan4ibanez who needed help with my mod?
01:26 OldCoder celeron55, and with all due respect don't lecture me about kids. You are young enough to be one of mine.
01:26 jojoa1997 it my version of your mod the peaceful npc
01:26 NekoGloop And you're old enough to die. And we dont care.
01:26 jordan4ibanez What's wrong with it?
01:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, :D
01:26 NekoGloop I suggest you dont care about our ages.
01:26 jojoa1997 i am trying to limit the npcs around the npc spawner block
01:26 aldobr2 i need beer and a steak
01:26 OldCoder NekoGloop, I was simply responding to a point C55 made about "acting like a child"
01:27 aldobr2 a big big big steak of argentine's picanha :D
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01:27 moltenbot KittenGNU's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
01:27 jojoa1997 jordan4ipbanezÑ i keep getting this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:27 Exio bot fail
01:27 NekoGloop lol @ moltenbot
01:27 jojoa1997 and here is my version http://paste.dy.fi/D1U
01:27 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:27 jordan4ibanez did you put minetest.env: instead of env: ?
01:28 jojoa1997 jordan4ipbanez: i keep getting this error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:28 jojoa1997 local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
01:28 VanessaE jojoa1997: for large pastes of code like that you should consider using github (when it comes back online).
01:28 OldCoder celeron55, One more point please. The LM situation requires careful handling. jordan4ibanez has been messing with that. Do you *want* the LM situation to go on forever? I don't think so.
01:28 jojoa1997 k
01:29 VanessaE jojoa1997: that is' teach yourself how to maintain a git repository.  It'll make your life far easier in the future when you really get into coding more.
01:29 NekoGloop if we stop giving LM attention, he will leave
01:29 jordan4ibanez Umm, i don't even see what's wrong with that line dude lol
01:29 OldCoder celeron55, this is about Landmine and not "acting like a child". NekoGloop do I need to point out the irony in you talking about the subject?
01:29 jojoa1997 VanessaE: i am havoing trouble getting it working so i gave up
01:29 NekoGloop Do i need to point out the irony in you saying it?
01:29 jordan4ibanez Use pastebin
01:30 jojoa1997 so anyone know what is wrong
01:30 OldCoder celeron55, NekoGloop, VanessaE, jordan4ibanez I am prepared to make one more attempt to help with Landmine. And to help Landmine. If jordan4ibanez gets in the way he gets muted.
01:30 jojoa1997 i pasted too much
01:30 jojoa1997 http://paste.dy.fi/D1U here is it it is still in english
01:30 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:30 aldobr2 i gotta go
01:30 OldCoder marktraceur, thexyz, sfan5|OFF ^ See the preceding position statement
01:30 aldobr2 cya all
01:30 OldCoder C U
01:31 celeron55 jordan4ibanez: if you don't understand what OldCoder is doing, you can currently only blame yourself
01:31 jordan4ibanez Well what is oldcoder doing? Because no one will say anything to me
01:31 jojoa1997 just to be clear what i want to do is limit the # of npcs around the npc spawner
01:32 celeron55 it's kind of worthless to explain to you in any kind of full enough extent
01:32 celeron55 probably
01:32 kaeza jordan4ibanez: certainly your personality is hard to understand. I'm not lecturing you, but you should be a little more friendly sometimes
01:32 jordan4ibanez well can you even say the 1 line version? lol
01:32 celeron55 maybe OldCoder might give a short explanation privately?
01:33 celeron55 it's a silly thing and i don't even know that much about what OldCoder plans to do about it, so i rather not even try
01:33 Exio jojoa1997: hm? that? i don't see it in the 'npc_spawner' function
01:33 jordan4ibanez I give up, please ban my account, i am going back to minecraft
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01:33 moltenbot jordan4ibanez's link: Blogs | Quassel IRC
01:34 VanessaE jeez
01:34 kaeza oh well
01:34 celeron55 oh, whatever then
01:34 kaeza if he says so
01:34 VanessaE "back to MC".  er. pl
01:34 jojoa1997 line 354 but i dont know how to add it into the  392 part
01:34 VanessaE er, ok.
01:34 Exio the npc_spawner is called for spawning mobs from the npc spawner
01:34 NekoGloop jordan says: "fuck minetest"
01:34 NekoGloop figured I'd share
01:34 jojoa1997 which is an object i want to limit the # of npcs around it
01:35 celeron55 to be honest, i don't even give a shit :D
01:35 iqualfragile1 hmm… guys, lets collect ideas for mobs
01:35 iqualfragile1 wich are not cloned from minecraft
01:35 NekoGloop guys, let's make the game work instead of copying minecraft all day long
01:35 kaeza celeron55: well, since this is a free game, you should refund him :P
01:35 celeron55 but whatever, let's let this more constructive discussion continue
01:36 jojoa1997 can we help me some
01:36 OldCoder I don't think I'll discuss any of this further today publicly or privately. I have IRL stuff to deal with as most of you do.
01:36 jojoa1997 cuase i have gotten nowhere
01:36 kaeza jojoa1997: wait
01:36 Exio jojoa1997: you can reuse code from the spawning_mobs function, it has a 'way' to count objects in a radius
01:36 jojoa1997 Exio:how
01:36 jojoa1997 kaeza:what
01:37 kaeza jojoa1997: try to find a mod that does something similar to what you need to do, and see how it does things
01:37 jojoa1997 i dont know of any
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01:38 LandMineOG wassssssssup
01:38 LandMineOG VanessaE you there?
01:38 jojoa1997 except for mobf but that code seems to rely on other stuff
01:38 VanessaE yeah.
01:38 marktraceur OldCoder: Agreed.
01:39 Exio kaeza: check the code at line 464 * for _,obj in pairs(minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 30)) do
01:39 LandMineOG k
01:39 kaeza Exio: ?
01:39 Exio in jojoa1997's pastebin
01:39 kaeza oh
01:39 Exio it has a code for checking objects around
01:39 kaeza wait
01:39 jojoa1997 this is a comment if obj:is_player() then
01:39 Exio s/objects/luaentities/
01:40 jojoa1997 ?
01:40 Exio small regex for replacing 'objects' to 'luaentities'
01:41 jojoa1997 lines 425-483 are all comented
01:41 kaeza Exio: yes... so?
01:41 jojoa1997 can we figure out the problem for line 393
01:41 jojoa1997 but thanks
01:42 Exio isn't he writing a 'spawn limit' for npc spawners?
01:42 kaeza yeah
01:42 Exio if npcentities around > somenumber; don't spawn it?
01:42 jojoa1997 that is my added part
01:42 Exio the code for getting the 'npcentities around' is in that function
01:43 jojoa1997 i want to make it a limet around the NPC Portal
01:43 jojoa1997 *limit
01:44 jojoa1997 but the error says that the minetest.env is nil
01:44 jojoa1997 or the "env" itself is nil
01:44 Exio i think the problem is where you are running it
01:44 jojoa1997 how do i make the radius go around the node
01:45 jojoa1997 where should i
01:45 LandMineOG oldcoder .........you there
01:45 kaeza jojoa1997: try creating a game mode with only the default mods and your new mod and see if it shows the same error
01:45 Exio in the npc_spawner function jojoa1997, as i said
01:46 jojoa1997 k
01:46 OldCoder LandMineOG, Yes. But preoccupied.
01:47 LandMineOG ohh ok oldcoder.....do your stuff...i wasnt gonna ask anything important anyway
01:47 OldCoder LandMineOG, Free free to PM
01:47 NekoGloop guys, follow the freenode guidelines and remove your op status when not using it
01:47 OldCoder NekoGloop, No. I have specific reasons for the moment.
01:48 OldCoder I think it's best if the others don't either. But it is their decision.
01:48 NekoGloop why, to hateban anyone who thinks you shouldnt be op?
01:48 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am focused elsewhere ATM. As I said I won't discuss the other issues further today.
01:48 OldCoder Running behind on other projects.
01:48 NekoGloop nice way to avoid a conversation
01:48 OldCoder Necessary
01:49 OldCoder Besides... you haven't been here a few days
01:49 OldCoder I was concerned about you
01:49 OldCoder Could have talked this last week
01:49 NekoGloop stop with that BS
01:49 OldCoder Not BS
01:49 OldCoder I meant what I said in PM
01:49 OldCoder And what I've posted publicly
01:49 NekoGloop You're just trying to make me shut up
01:49 OldCoder Hardly
01:50 OldCoder I try to stop you from evaporating
01:50 OldCoder That is far from making you shut up
01:50 OldCoder I saw the switch, you know
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01:50 jojoa1997 is it possible to just set the overall limet in the world
01:51 NekoGloop From you being a kind innocent person to a self-centered demon?
01:51 OldCoder jojoa1997, explain
01:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, PM
01:51 jeffrash What happened to minetest.org 30015?
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, Heh
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, John did a /clearobjects
01:51 jeffrash I just lost a week of work
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, Ouch
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, No. Just 2 days.
01:51 jeffrash really?
01:51 jojoa1997 istead of having the limit be set around the npc spawner have it set for the entire world say 50
01:51 jeffrash I did a lot of 2 days
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, When he did /clearobjects it ate 12GB of my RAM
01:51 OldCoder jeffrash, You can get it back
01:52 jeffrash how?
01:52 LandMineOG map backup
01:52 OldCoder jeffrash, I will start the damaged world and give you worldedit there. You can try to export work as schems. Will this be acceptable?
01:52 jeffrash sure, but I don't know how to world edit
01:53 OldCoder jeffrash, deal is that you talk to people and learn. When you are ready we will try this if you wish. One tip: Turn on full range viewing. Toggle it immediately before export.
01:53 OldCoder This works around a bug
01:53 jeffrash can I import it back into the new world?
01:53 OldCoder jeffrash, Probably
01:53 OldCoder If it works
01:53 jojoa1997 OldCoder: http://paste.dy.fi/DTf this is the part that limits npcs
01:53 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
01:53 OldCoder I am willing to try
01:53 LandMineOG you just have to set a position with //pos1 and then load it //load whatever.we
01:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, O.K.
01:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, Do you have a patch proposed?
01:54 jojoa1997 Patch?
01:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, Is there a request for a fix?
01:54 OldCoder Or a change?
01:54 jojoa1997 no it is my mod
01:54 OldCoder jojoa1997, Are you requesting that the mod be used?
01:55 jojoa1997 i need it to be fixed
01:55 jeffrash I'll just rebuild.  Are you sure it was only 2 days?
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01:55 jeffrash I'm missing alot
01:55 jojoa1997 this is the error http://ompldr.org/vZ3NvZQ/Untitled%20picture.png
01:55 OldCoder jeffrash, I will verify the timestamp. Wait please.
01:55 jeffrash it doesn't matter
01:56 OldCoder jeffrash, I made the backup at about 6:30am local time on Thursday morning.
01:56 jeffrash thanks for the information.
01:56 OldCoder All right
01:56 OldCoder Good luck
01:56 OldCoder jojoa1997, reviewing
01:56 LandMineOG jojoa1997 its easier if you goto /bin and delete your debug
01:56 jeffrash do you think this will happen again?
01:56 LandMineOG then run the game gain
01:56 LandMineOG then paste your entire debug
01:56 LandMineOG in pastebin.com
01:56 OldCoder jeffrash, It will if somebody does /clearobjects
01:56 OldCoder We may need to disable that
01:57 jojoa1997 why delete debug wont that make problems and others cant use it
01:57 OldCoder jeffrash, there will be crashes occasionally
01:57 OldCoder It is inevitable
01:57 jeffrash ok
01:58 LandMineOG jojoa1997 the debug has nothing to do with the mod
01:58 jojoa1997 k
01:58 LandMineOG the reason to delete it
01:58 LandMineOG is so a clean one can generate itsself
01:58 jojoa1997 it can regenerate itself?
01:58 LandMineOG so you don thave to paste alot of stuff
01:58 LandMineOG yeah
01:58 LandMineOG it creates a new one
01:58 jojoa1997 you sure
01:58 LandMineOG by itsself
01:58 LandMineOG of course im sure
01:58 LandMineOG ask anybody else
01:59 LandMineOG go to /bin and delete debug.txt
01:59 LandMineOG then run the game again
01:59 LandMineOG when it crashes again
01:59 LandMineOG open your debug
01:59 Exio if you aren't sure movethe debug.txt to debug.txt.bak
01:59 LandMineOG copy all of it
01:59 LandMineOG and paste it in pastebin.com
01:59 LandMineOG and send us the url of the pastebin
01:59 jojoa1997 the error still comes up
02:00 LandMineOG [19:59] <LandMineOG> go to /bin and delete debug.txt [19:59] <LandMineOG> then run the game again [19:59] <LandMineOG> when it crashes again [19:59] <LandMineOG> open your debug [19:59] <Exio> if you aren't sure movethe debug.txt to debug.txt.bak [19:59] <LandMineOG> copy all of it [19:59] <LandMineOG> and paste it in pastebin.com [19:59] <LandMineOG> and send us the url of the pastebin
02:00 kaeza jojoa1997: read what LandMineOG says
02:00 kaeza hi LandMineOG
02:00 jojoa1997 i already deleted it
02:00 Exio fffff
02:00 Exio thanks for the highlight
02:00 LandMineOG np exio and hi kaeza
02:01 jojoa1997 http://paste.dy.fi/DBS
02:01 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
02:02 LandMineOG oldcoder can you help with this?
02:02 LandMineOG http://paste.dy.fi/DBS
02:02 moltenbot LandMineOG's link: pastebin
02:02 LandMineOG thanks in advanced
02:03 OldCoder Reviewing
02:04 OldCoder The env variable
02:04 OldCoder What mod or component defines it?
02:04 jojoa1997 yep
02:04 OldCoder I will grep the code
02:04 OldCoder Hold on
02:04 jojoa1997 ???
02:04 kaeza LandMineOG, jojoa1997: certainly this error is puzzling me
02:04 jin_xi jojoa1997: try running only this one mod
02:05 jojoa1997 i did on minimal and that error came up
02:05 kaeza jojoa1997: try creating a game mode with only the default mods and your new mod and see if it shows the same error
02:05 iqualfragile1 night guys
02:05 kaeza night iq
02:05 OldCoder That is part of default
02:05 OldCoder Odd...
02:05 * OldCoder greps further
02:06 jojoa1997 same thing
02:06 OldCoder Minute please
02:07 kaeza jojoa1997: what MT version do you have?
02:07 jojoa1997 0.4.4
02:07 OldCoder jojoa1997, are you able to ZIP this up and send it to me?
02:07 kaeza 0.4.4 dev as i se
02:07 kaeza see*
02:07 jojoa1997 the stable one
02:07 OldCoder jojoa1997, your map and/or mods?
02:07 OldCoder jojoa1997, Let me try to run it please
02:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: so,..  why haven't you been on my server lately? :-)
02:07 OldCoder Make a ZIP of a world and any mods
02:08 jojoa1997 one sec
02:08 OldCoder VanessaE, PM
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02:11 NakedFury minetest is mentioned here
02:11 NakedFury http://www.squidoo.com/games-that-are-like-minecraft
02:11 moltenbot NakedFury's link: 18 Games Like Minecraft (Free and Paid) - Fun Sandbox Building Games
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02:11 VanessaE minetest gets #2 in the list, not bad
02:11 NakedFury yeah
02:11 kaeza cool
02:12 kaeza MT is also number #2 in alternative.to IIRC
02:12 * OldCoder will be here
02:12 kaeza the first one Infiniminer
02:12 OldCoder jojoa1997, If you make a ZIP let me try this
02:12 VanessaE Minetest has potential to rise to the top of those lists if we manage it right
02:12 jojoa1997 one sec i am busy
02:12 NakedFury I agree withat
02:12 NakedFury with that
02:13 LandMineAway brb
02:14 NakedFury what ended in the forum upgrade discussion? upgrade to latest punbb or switch to another free alternative?
02:14 NakedFury xenforo was expensive
02:15 kaeza has anyone here actually played Infiniminer?
02:15 NakedFury no
02:15 jojoa1997 nope
02:16 kaeza hmm reading about it looks like fun
02:16 kaeza but it seems it's not that advanced as MT
02:16 NakedFury the developers dropped it after the source was leaked
02:16 Exio nothing is advanced as MT
02:17 Exio well, games using LUA are very advanced! <3
02:17 kaeza yes I was reading about the 'Why Development of Infiniminer Was Stopped'
02:18 kaeza but oh well TL;DR for now
02:20 kaeza NakedFury: was there a poll about new forum software?
02:20 NakedFury no, earlier today they were discussing about it
02:20 VanessaE http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens18899388module155312055photo_1321895178minecraft_hates_1_by_cele
02:20 VanessaE lol, so true in MT also.
02:21 kaeza VanessaE: you may also like this one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/memes/507c7f2d2a291.jpeg
02:21 kizeren Hm.....any reason my players are mining and stuff randomly pops in to each others inventory?
02:21 VanessaE hah
02:21 VanessaE seen that one before :-)
02:21 VanessaE OldCoder: I've got world/game/etc. updates for you at your leisure.  Use the .tar.bz2 URLs I gave before - those are permanent.
02:22 OldCoder VanessaE, O.K. I am now over my head IRL. Must finish elsewhere before I MT again. But I will complete things.
02:22 VanessaE take your time, there is no hurry.
02:22 OldCoder I often tell others the same thing. One step at a time. More true for them than me though.
02:22 VanessaE these also serve as two backup copies even without your online mirror :-)
02:22 OldCoder Time is precious.
02:22 OldCoder Ah
02:22 OldCoder But I wish to show off your place
02:23 OldCoder It is quite nice
02:23 VanessaE You should see the place Dopium is building out past my house (take the road through the desert mountain to the east)
02:23 VanessaE it's looking nice.
02:24 VanessaE and jojoa1997 said he's got a nice little city brewing, but I haven't seen it yet.
02:24 * kaeza feels nobody cares about his Final Fantasy 7 Main Theme music box :(
02:24 VanessaE kaeza: you only give it like 8 notes :)
02:24 kaeza oh yes
02:24 kaeza I forgot to finish it :P
02:25 VanessaE :P
02:25 NekoGloop FF7 :D
02:26 kaeza NekoGloop: you should see it... or rather hear it :D
02:26 NekoGloop i know what it sounds like :#
02:26 NekoGloop :3*
02:27 NekoGloop Oh hello. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1613290-hello-i-am-new/#entry19853415
02:27 moltenbot NekoGloop's link: Hello, I am new. - Minecraft Forum
02:28 NakedFury was that you using a jordan id or really jordan?
02:28 NekoGloop what do you think
02:29 NakedFury should post traitor.
02:30 * kaeza does not care
02:30 * kaeza goes back to hacking
02:31 NekoGloop like all linux users
02:31 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will make a NekoDistro for you
02:32 OldCoder That will make you smile
02:32 NekoGloop no it wont
02:32 OldCoder It will have whiskers
02:32 OldCoder And cans of tuna fish
02:32 NekoGloop because my hardware is linux-proofed
02:32 OldCoder And anything else you wish
02:32 * VanessaE whines because github is still down :(
02:32 OldCoder It will run Windows
02:32 OldCoder VanessaE, I can host repos if need be
02:33 VanessaE OldCoder: naw, there's no need.  github's had some kind of hardware failure by the look of it.
02:33 NakedFury shes having github withdrawals
02:33 VanessaE *twitch*
02:33 OldCoder VanessaE, NakedFury Understood
02:33 OldCoder Heh
02:34 VanessaE *twitch*
02:34 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
02:35 LandMineAway oldcoder tell vanessae to stop playing with my head
02:35 kaeza github still down??
02:35 kaeza buh
02:35 kizeren Yes kaeza
02:35 OldCoder Heh
02:35 OldCoder VanessaE, dom
02:35 kaeza I need to do a git push right now!
02:35 OldCoder VanessaE, don't mess with his head :P
02:35 OldCoder kaeza, Hold it back for a few minutes
02:36 OldCoder I am sure git will be hubbing along at any time
02:36 kaeza k
02:36 kaeza :)
02:36 OldCoder There should be backup servers
02:36 VanessaE I'm not playign with anyone's head (*kicks a head-like ball across the floor innocently*)
02:37 kaeza you are not playing with spell checkers either :)
02:37 kaeza lol J/K
02:38 VanessaE no, I'm just too lasfuiwmn tygok fix mty typoisz
02:38 VanessaE :-)
02:38 kaeza lol :)
02:39 * VanessaE takes the previously-placed kitten and snuggles with it, then hands it off to OldCoder
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02:47 Exio i'm having problems with tweaking the world generation a bit, i changed the mapgen.lua, well, the alias in the mapgen.lua to avoid the tree generation, and changed water to lava
02:48 Exio but, a new generated world with that, still generates trees and water
02:48 VanessaE never messed with the map generator, hell I barely even know how to hook into it
02:48 Exio and the ONLY mod in that 'testgame' is default with the mapgen.lua header changed
02:50 Exio hm
02:51 kaeza NakedFury: if the new forum software is still in discussion, I wan to suggest something
02:51 kaeza want*
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02:52 kaeza or well, ask something for future reference
02:53 kaeza hi Muadtralk
02:54 Muadtralk no hello!
02:54 Muadtralk i didnt leave too long did I?
02:54 NekoGloop yes. You abandoned us D:
02:54 Exio hm, nice
02:54 NakedFury maybe
02:56 kaeza Is it possible to have "post revisions" like wiki page revisions using some kind of plugin/addon?
02:57 kaeza or at least block editing of posts (other than the first one) after someone replies?
02:59 * OldCoder appreciates the kitten gift
02:59 Exio i'm getting mad, a param of make_tree is obtained by the param of make_block, and it is obtained by calling some function with a variable obtain from a param of ServerMap::generateBlock
02:59 * NekoGloop punts a kitten at OldCoder
03:00 kaeza lolwut
03:00 Muadtralk wha.........
03:00 Muadtralk reverse posting?
03:01 Exio aaaand, well
03:01 kaeza Muadtralk: this always comes to my mind: http://www.epicfail.com/2012/04/09/facebook-trolling-win/
03:01 * OldCoder uses a patented kitten net to catch it
03:01 Exio generateBlock params is 'obtained' from emergeBlock
03:02 * NekoGloop sues OldCoder for using his patented kitten net
03:05 OldCoder Hmm
03:06 OldCoder But I vetted the patents
03:06 OldCoder :-(
03:06 * OldCoder shrugs
03:14 Exio nice, github still down
03:18 kaeza Exio: yes :(
03:18 kaeza and the last changes I pushed to my mod inadvertently borked some things :(
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03:23 OldCoder kaeza, bork happens
03:23 kaeza I fixed the bugs now
03:23 kaeza awaiting for github to be up again :)
03:25 Exio i give up, i won't get where can be the problem of the mapgen
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03:26 jakssoul HAHAHA! IT WORKS
03:26 jakssoul I'm on Xubuntu. WIRELESSLY.
03:26 jakssoul I'm ECSTATIC.
03:26 sokomine congratulations :-)
03:27 Exio well, now i'm going to sleep, night
03:27 jakssoul Sorry. Just had to throw that out there.
03:27 Exio bye everybody
03:27 VanessaE woohoo!
03:29 kaeza way to go jakssoul!
03:29 kaeza bye Exio
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03:52 jakssoul kaeza, I've got VanessaE to thank. She guided me through all of it, and still is!
03:53 kaeza \o/
03:53 jakssoul Que es la problema?
03:53 kaeza estoy festejando :)
03:53 jakssoul kaeza, tienes un problema?
03:54 jakssoul festejandas que?
03:55 kaeza ...
03:55 kaeza nvm
03:55 jakssoul ?
03:55 jakssoul Que!?
03:57 * OldCoder laughs
03:57 jakssoul Por que?
03:57 OldCoder I can understand about 2/3 of that
03:57 OldCoder After all the years
03:57 OldCoder It stays with you
03:57 jakssoul Yeah.
03:57 jakssoul I'm in Spanish 2.
03:58 OldCoder Odd
03:58 OldCoder It has been so long
03:58 jakssoul I pretend I know how to speak it correctly.
03:58 OldCoder I am sure you will do well
03:58 jakssoul He probably just told me he is beating off or something.
03:58 jakssoul Hahahaha.
03:58 OldCoder Nah
03:58 OldCoder There is only one word
03:58 jakssoul Celebrating, right?
03:58 OldCoder Let me check it
03:58 NakedFury he is celebrating
03:58 OldCoder Yes
03:58 jakssoul Festejando is celebrating I thought.
03:58 OldCoder That is the only word I missed
03:59 jakssoul So I asked what he is celebrating!
03:59 jakssoul Then he got angry?
03:59 OldCoder And he said
03:59 OldCoder nvm
03:59 jakssoul Is festejandar the verb?
03:59 OldCoder Not angry
03:59 jakssoul Or is it not a verb some magical way?
03:59 OldCoder I can't tell
03:59 OldCoder Reviewing
04:00 OldCoder I only see festejando
04:00 OldCoder Anyway, excuse me
04:00 kaeza OldCoder: hablas un poco de español?
04:00 OldCoder Un poco si
04:00 OldCoder I can read it
04:00 kaeza bien!
04:00 OldCoder No longer speak it
04:00 OldCoder Si
04:00 OldCoder Solamente un poco
04:00 OldCoder With translator more obviously
04:00 OldCoder But I am surprised at how much I remember
04:01 kaeza heh yes
04:01 kaeza things you learn at school are with you for life
04:01 jakssoul kaeza, Are you latino?
04:01 kaeza no matter how much time passes
04:01 jakssoul Or just enjoy the language?
04:02 kaeza jakssoul: from uruguay
04:02 sokomine that's almost understandable :-)
04:02 kaeza south america
04:02 jakssoul Ahhhh, fun fun.
04:02 kaeza sokomine: "es casi ininteligible"
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04:03 kaeza what you just said :P
04:03 kaeza or "entendible"
04:03 kaeza :/
04:04 * kaeza sucks at spanish... even speaking it natively
04:04 kaeza ^_^
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04:09 NakedFury jordan did leave the game
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04:11 jakssoul Hang on here.
04:11 jakssoul celeron55 is one of the main developers of Minetest?
04:11 sokomine afaik he wrote the game
04:12 jakssoul Yeah. I just read that. I was just talking to this guy and didn't even realize.
04:12 jakssoul Wow.
04:12 jakssoul I'm an idiot.
04:14 sokomine :-) doesn't matter. he seems a nice guy and you can talk with him when he's online :-)
04:20 NakedFury ok found 3 guys on minecraft forums and added as friends
04:21 NakedFury neko, jordan, and ipushbuttons
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04:22 jakssoul Woah.
04:23 Muadtralk no taoki?
04:23 Muadtralk i know she is on there
04:23 Muadtralk at least last  i checked
04:23 NakedFury same name?
04:23 NakedFury and you?
04:24 NakedFury mirceakitsune with a rainbow pony avatar?
04:26 NakedFury yep same user
04:26 OldCoder kaeza, I am sure your Spanish is fine
04:27 OldCoder jakssoul, congratulations on the wifi
04:28 NakedFury his spanish must be fine, maybe he sucks at grammar
04:33 VanessaE yay!  github is back :-)
04:34 OldCoder VanessaE, press the button. You know you want to.
04:34 OldCoder Do it.
04:34 OldCoder Dooo eeet
04:34 OldCoder :-)
04:34 OldCoder Push or pull etc.
04:34 NakedFury fork!
04:35 OldCoder Spoon!
04:35 NakedFury uis there actually a spoon term in git hub?
04:35 OldCoder If not there ought to be
04:35 OldCoder It almost makes sense
04:37 VanessaE heh, actually I just wanted to review a couple of bug reports :D
04:37 NakedFury ...sure you know you wanted some pulling or commits action
04:37 VanessaE lol
04:38 VanessaE actually I'm glad it's back up, I'm helping jakssoul through the process of installing MT from sources :-)
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05:01 Trezker All I wanted was a straight stair into the depths, and here's this damn lava pool in the way...
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05:28 kaeza github is BACK!!
05:28 VanessaE yep :-)
05:29 kaeza I'm pushing 21634896 changes!!
05:29 kaeza \o/
05:29 VanessaE lol
05:29 leo_rockway what? o.o
05:31 kaeza good bye monthly bandwidth :/
05:31 VanessaE kaeza: I thought to upgraded to that better ISP?
05:32 kaeza not yet :(
05:32 kaeza still on 4GB :/
05:32 leo_rockway I thought you only had the state ISP
05:32 kaeza leo_rockway: Claro
05:32 leo_rockway oh
05:33 leo_rockway and how does that work?
05:33 VanessaE ick :(
05:33 kaeza usb modem. 4GB/mo for 485 pesos
05:33 kaeza a lot overrated
05:35 leo_rockway what's the UY$ US$ exchange rate? I don't remember it.
05:35 leo_rockway I was in Uruguay earlier this year, but considering our exchange rate issues I have trouble remembering actual rates.
05:37 kaeza 1 US$ = 20 UY$
05:37 Trezker 25.19 according to google
05:37 kaeza or 1 AR$ = 6 UY$
05:37 Trezker I mean 485 peso = 25.19 usd
05:38 leo_rockway kaeza: official...
05:38 leo_rockway I can't get 6UY for 1 AR
05:38 OldCoder <kaeza> I'm pushing 21634896 changes!!
05:38 OldCoder Slacker :P
05:38 kaeza IDK the current rates
05:39 kaeza ask google
05:39 kaeza OldCoder: lol
05:39 kaeza OldCoder: actually: 1 file changed, 66 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
05:40 OldCoder O.K.
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05:52 VanessaE is it bad if you get lost on your own server occasionally? :-)
05:55 OldCoder Nah
05:55 OldCoder Big places
06:04 kaeza It's 3:00 AM and some my f*cktard network has his stereo at full volume
06:04 kaeza ...
06:05 kaeza there are at least 3/4 wrong in that statement
06:05 kaeza It's 4:00 AM and my f*cktard neighbor has his stereo at full volume
06:05 kaeza lol autocorrect
06:06 * kaeza is bored
06:06 VanessaE lol
06:07 * kaeza is thinking of griefing vanessae.mine.bz
06:08 VanessaE /revoke kaeza interact
06:08 VanessaE ;)
06:08 kaeza (at -32000^3) //p1 (at 32000^3) //p2 //set air
06:16 OldCoder Hmm
06:16 OldCoder There should be a //set buildings
06:16 OldCoder That would be interesting
06:16 OldCoder Or...
06:16 OldCoder //set cheese
06:16 OldCoder Maybe //set rats
06:16 OldCoder What happened to the rats again?
06:17 OldCoder Not compatible?
06:17 * OldCoder remembers the rats divided by zero bug
06:17 kaeza I miss c++ DMs :(
06:17 OldCoder That was a heaping helping of rats
06:24 kaeza VanessaE: can you paste a worldedit file in your world if I send it to you?
06:25 VanessaE I could but I guarantee it won't paste right unless you've got a good area to paste it into
06:26 VanessaE worldedit's load command needs a little bit of work yet
06:28 VanessaE kaeza: where were you when you signed off?
06:28 kaeza near Zephyr
06:29 VanessaE oh ok, not by the note blocks?
06:29 kaeza i didn't see the noteblocks :(
06:29 VanessaE did you re-appear in the same place as when you signed off?
06:29 kaeza apparently I'm at the music box now
06:29 kaeza so yes
06:29 VanessaE yep.
06:29 VanessaE ok
06:30 VanessaE tjust trying to figure out why the map didn't load for you
06:30 VanessaE -t
06:31 kaeza the strange thing is it load ok for a minute or so
06:31 kaeza loads*
06:31 VanessaE strange indeed
06:32 kaeza punched the switch about 20 secs ago
06:32 kaeza and it just turned off
06:33 VanessaE I think you're losing packets or something
06:33 VanessaE it's been working great for everyone else
06:34 kaeza I'll try reconnecting my modem
06:34 kaeza brb
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06:34 kaeza1 back
06:35 VanessaE wb
06:35 kaeza1 thx
06:35 kaeza1 I'll try connecting now
06:35 * kaeza1 is waiting for kaeza to go
06:37 OldCoder ghost it
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06:39 kaeza how do i "ghost" it?
06:40 JesseH kaeza, how do you handle ping requests with your client? :B
06:40 kaeza ...
06:41 OldCoder /msg NickServ GHOST nickname password
06:41 OldCoder Like that kaeza ^
06:41 kaeza thx OC
06:41 OldCoder Kicks the ghost
06:41 * OldCoder nods
06:41 * kaeza feels like a n00b
06:41 JesseH :/
06:41 JesseH Ill just split the string and send it back
06:42 kaeza yup
06:42 kaeza y?
06:43 JesseH because I have to pong that ball
06:44 * kaeza is not amused
06:45 JesseH :/ sorry
06:45 * JesseH kills self.
06:45 kaeza J/K
06:45 kaeza I'm a bit tired
06:46 JesseH me too
06:47 kaeza well, someone has been building houses around my music box :(
06:47 kaeza I don't have enough space now :/
06:48 kaeza I may have to start building upwards
06:48 JesseH Don't dig down
06:51 kaeza nah, I'll just grief all the houses mwahahaha
06:51 kaeza J/K
06:51 JesseH heh
06:53 kaeza VanessaE: is your recent mapgen problem related to the fact that there are leaves without trees?
06:53 VanessaE no, that's just from me having disabled leaf decay ;-)
06:54 kaeza oh cool :D
06:54 kaeza I found it a bit strange lol
06:55 VanessaE I suppose I could re-enable it (I disabled it while we were trying to cut down the CPU usage and make the server less laggy)
06:55 kaeza no leave it as it is now
06:56 kaeza I don't mind removing leaves manually
06:56 kaeza and leafdecay will surely bog down your server
06:56 VanessaE yeah
06:57 kaeza hmm I should do the same for my local games
06:57 VanessaE according to the profiler, it was the heaviest mod on the server, even moreso than technic assumign I read it right
07:03 VanessaE interesting.  The server was sitting there spinning at 60% CPU without anyone logged in, then I connected and it went back down to normal
07:03 kaeza hm?
07:04 kaeza odd
07:06 RealBadAngel propably it played solitaire or somethin like that
07:06 RealBadAngel out of boredom
07:06 VanessaE *forever alone*
07:07 kaeza hi RealBadAngel
07:07 RealBadAngel hi
07:09 kaeza and good night, I'm off to bed
07:09 kaeza good night everyone
07:09 kaeza CU l8r
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07:14 VanessaE zzz
07:33 VanessaE think I'll follow suit and go to bed also.
07:33 VanessaE night.
08:01 OldCoder Night
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09:31 Jordach morning OldCoder
09:31 OldCoder Jordach, hello
09:38 Jordach i see shit hit the fan last night
09:47 Jordach can i has cake? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58792#p58792
09:47 moltenbot Jordach's link: Ban me. (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
09:47 Jordach moltenbot, shush
09:56 OldCoder Taoki, Hi
09:56 OldCoder Ditto Jeija
09:56 Taoki hello :)
09:56 Taoki Been a while... how have you been?
09:56 OldCoder Heh
09:56 OldCoder Not so good
09:56 OldCoder But thank you
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10:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, Hello
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10:02 markveidemanis__ hi oldcoder
10:02 markveidemanis_ who registered this nickname??
10:02 OldCoder Which one?
10:02 markveidemanis_ oh, me
10:03 markveidemanis_ hii
10:04 markveidemanis_ OldCoder, whats the port of the default worls
10:04 markveidemanis_ #d
10:05 markveidemanis_ anyone know any good seeds?
10:05 OldCoder markveidemanis_, try 30000 on minetest.org
10:05 markveidemanis_ k
10:09 markveidemanis_ it cant be default
10:09 markveidemanis_ still connecting
10:22 markveidemanis_ whats the boomworld mod
10:31 markveidemanis_ welL?
10:31 brobostigon good morning everyone,
10:32 markveidemanis_ good morning
10:32 brobostigon morning markveidemanis_
10:32 markveidemanis_ do you know what the "boomworld" mod on the gameboom server is?
10:33 brobostigon no, sorry.
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10:34 markveidemanis_ not doing that again...
10:35 markveidemanis_ why 3 times?
10:35 markveidemanis_ oh, all the ip's
10:35 markveidemanis_ now who is spamming:)
10:36 markveidemanis test
10:36 markveidemanis yay
10:36 markveidemanis hi Minetest-tan
10:36 Minetest-tan Hey markveidemanis!
10:36 markveidemanis hi moltenbot
10:37 Taoki back
10:37 Taoki OldCoder: I hope things get better then, good luck
10:38 markveidemanis wait, what did he do?
10:39 thexyz he asked for it
10:39 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-12-23#i_2745532
10:39 moltenbot thexyz's link: IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-23
10:43 thexyz other ops are free to unban him if they wish to
10:43 * Taoki wonders why so much drama here every once in a while... MineTest is a nice and peaceful place :)
10:44 thexyz yeah, i was surprised by amount of drama here too
10:44 thexyz does the same thing happen with every opensource project?
10:44 markveidemanis 01:33jordan4ibanezI give up, please ban my account, i am going back to minecraft
10:44 markveidemanis what he said, not me
10:45 Jordach he's always been like this
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10:46 celeron55 thexyz: i have a bit of experience from one, but the community of it was mainly quite professional older people
10:46 Jordach celeron55, clap clap clap
10:46 celeron55 thexyz: i think the cause of this is that this project pulls many young people
10:46 Jordach celeron55, you might wanna take motivational speeches up
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10:56 Taoki thexyz: Not that I know of. I usually check the channel for #xonotic often apart from this one (since that's my other favorite FOSS game), but things are usually ok
10:56 Taoki Only time there's drama there is when people argue over the weapon balancing (a.k.a. developer drama) or a troll that's sticking with the project for years and ban evades every few months comes in and starts complaining till he's banned again
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11:00 OldCoder thexyz, the LM issue complicates this one
11:01 OldCoder But any social media based enterprise
11:01 OldCoder has a human element
11:01 OldCoder Group dynamics are often unpredictable
11:01 OldCoder And just to balance things...
11:01 Zeg9 How runs minetestserver on swap?
11:02 OldCoder Heh
11:02 OldCoder Zeg9, explain
11:02 Jordach OldCoder, the entity LM will fall over sometime under its own weight
11:02 Zeg9 I have a wii, which has really a few memory
11:02 Jordach Zeg9 means swap memory
11:02 OldCoder Jordach, or evolve
11:02 OldCoder Not familiar with wii
11:02 Zeg9 It's like 50 MB of memory, or less
11:02 Jordach Zeg9, it should have 256mb or 512mb
11:02 OldCoder I need to learn that
11:03 Jordach !wik nintendo wii
11:03 Zeg9 So, I'm wondering if minetest server would run fine on a swap on an usb drive or sd card
11:03 Minetest-tan "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Nintendo_wii
11:03 OldCoder Zeg9, it should with the right database format
11:03 Zeg9 Well I'll try. I'll make a 1 GB swap and tell you news...
11:03 Zeg9 ...When the upgrade is done...
11:05 Jordach Zeg9, about 128mb of ram
11:05 Zeg9 I finally got the wifi working, realising the ssid had a _ and not a -
11:05 Zeg9 128mb yeah but all can't be used
11:05 Jordach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Specifications
11:05 moltenbot Jordach's link: Wii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
11:05 Zeg9 http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/WL:whiite-linux#DOs_And_DON.27Ts
11:05 moltenbot Zeg9's link: WL:whiite-linux - gc-linux
11:06 * Zeg9 is upgrading his wii from debian 5 to 6, in the hope he won't have to reinstall all
11:08 markveidemanis i am running a minetest 0.3.1 server on the usual ip
11:09 Zeg9 Wii is really a quiet system
11:11 * Zeg9 successfully enabled 512 MB swap on sd card on his wii.
11:12 Zeg9 Lol. I typed free -m 3 times and on the 4th...
11:12 Zeg9 Oh nothing.
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11:13 john_minetest Good morning.
11:13 Zeg9 Hey john
11:13 Zeg9 morning ? it's 12:12
11:13 john_minetest Hey Zeg :D
11:14 Zeg9 Installing linux on wii :')
11:14 john_minetest I know. But i have got holidays and i woke up 5 minutes ago :D
11:14 john_minetest lol
11:15 OldCoder Yes Zeg9 it is late here
11:15 OldCoder :-)
11:15 Zeg9 lol
11:15 OldCoder <-- Received a CTCP TIME from Zeg9
11:15 * Jordach was coding a text based procedrally generated zombie game
11:16 Zeg9 Was wondering why you were so tired everyday.
11:16 OldCoder So much nonsense going on
11:16 OldCoder Need to finish blog posts
11:16 OldCoder Jordach it is 3:14am
11:16 OldCoder <-- Received a CTCP TIME from Jordach
11:16 Jordach i know, just checking
11:16 OldCoder Attention: To save the poor old CTCP packages a trip
11:16 OldCoder It is 3:15am in Coderland :P
11:16 Jordach walking in a winter coderland
11:16 OldCoder Yes
11:16 OldCoder Actually posted that song
11:17 OldCoder Just one stanza; he didn't write more
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11:17 Zeg9 Installing git. Then... minetestserver !
11:18 OldCoder Later on, we'll compile, // As we debug by the fire // To face unafraid, // The APIs that we've made, // Walking in a coder wonderland.
11:19 Zeg9 That's so poetic.
11:19 OldCoder Heh
11:19 OldCoder I didn't write it
11:20 john_minetest OldCoder: I have got a file with a part of the IRC chat where you were really poetic.
11:20 OldCoder I dabble
11:20 OldCoder Puddles of dreams of riches
11:20 OldCoder On the ground
11:20 OldCoder Splash through the APIs
11:20 OldCoder And the acronyms
11:20 OldCoder Dreams of magic ponies
11:20 OldCoder Pulling wheelbarrows of money
11:20 OldCoder Down from the server clouds
11:20 OldCoder etc.
11:21 john_minetest We should make a rhymebook.
11:21 OldCoder Sure
11:21 OldCoder Rhymes all the times
11:21 markveidemanis 11:08:53: ACTION[ServerThread]: A dungeon master spawns at (-80,-18,58)
11:21 Zeg9 NEWS: SWAP on SD card via usb is slow.
11:21 markveidemanis someone come on my 0.3.1 server
11:21 OldCoder Yeah that will pack them in
11:21 OldCoder markveidemanis, explain...
11:21 Zeg9 Or wait no. It was an overloaded cpu
11:22 OldCoder why they should
11:22 OldCoder markveidemanis, marketing
11:22 markveidemanis relive the experiebce...
11:22 Zeg9 mark, just use a mod like simple mobs for dungeon masters and stuff...
11:22 OldCoder markveidemanis, O.K. that is a start
11:22 OldCoder Why is 0.3.1 more fun for you than 0.4.4 ?
11:23 OldCoder Jordach, weren't you working on a 0.3.X fork at one point?
11:23 Jordach yes, the git is still around
11:23 OldCoder I can see a simple MT
11:23 Jordach also -- i found the proto mod api txt
11:23 OldCoder as being useful
11:23 OldCoder as a coding base and learning tool
11:24 markveidemanis i quit the 0.3.1, i got bored
11:24 john_minetest I always have got problems compiling 0.3.x because the irrlicht version seems to be incompatible.
11:24 OldCoder john_minetest, would an older Irrlicht work?
11:24 markveidemanis i installed 0.3.1 from the marketplace
11:24 OldCoder markveidemanis, marketplace?
11:24 markveidemanis and compiled 0.4
11:24 markveidemanis lubuntu software centre
11:24 Zeg9 Soon compiling 0.4,... on wii
11:25 OldCoder Ah
11:25 john_minetest OldCoder: I could try to compile an older Irrlicht.
11:25 OldCoder Sure
11:25 OldCoder Jordach, Zeg9 what is the CTCP TIME command? I don't recall and somebody else wants to CTCP me
11:25 john_minetest I just looked for "walking in a winter coder land" and one of the first results was:  Winter Walking | Winter Walk | Outdoor Walking | Arthritis Today Magazine
11:26 OldCoder Ha
11:26 Zeg9 OldCoder /ctcp OldCoder TIME
11:26 OldCoder Yep
11:26 OldCoder Mystery Inquirer: Do that command
11:26 OldCoder /ctcp OldCoder TIME
11:26 OldCoder Yep
11:26 john_mt|afk eating
11:26 Zeg9 Oh... You changed it
11:26 OldCoder It worked
11:26 Zeg9 I guess
11:26 OldCoder Yep
11:26 Zeg9 No.
11:26 markveidemanis 003:25
11:26 OldCoder What changed?
11:26 OldCoder Same client as before
11:27 OldCoder /ctcp OldCoder version
11:27 OldCoder will show my HexChat
11:27 OldCoder Yep
11:27 OldCoder Now you're getting it
11:27 Zeg9 Try to ctcp time me
11:27 OldCoder Heh
11:27 OldCoder Message
11:32 Zeg9 Huh wait - minetest server can use swap right?
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11:33 Jordach Zeg9, yes it can
11:33 Zeg9 Ok
11:33 Jordach all programs can use swap file
11:33 markveidemanis hi
11:34 Zeg9 Hi
11:34 Zeg9 no, java don't use them
11:34 Zeg9 Weirdly
11:35 markveidemanis zeg, any updates on the ufo mod?
11:35 Zeg9 Not yet.
11:35 markveidemanis the beam!?
11:36 Zeg9 DOING OTHER STUFF
11:36 markveidemanis :(
11:37 Zeg9 Why building server requires irrlicht??
11:40 Zeg9 Finally building minetestserver on wii.... :')
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11:46 Zeg9 It seems to be stuck on sqlite3 building...
11:47 OldCoder Allow time
11:47 OldCoder Good point about Irrlicht
11:47 Zeg9 I see. sqlite is 4MB file to compile...
11:48 Zeg9 I hope it will work.
11:48 Exio Zeg9: java uses it, at least here
11:48 Exio and hi btw
11:49 Zeg9 Hello!
11:49 markveidemanis ji
11:49 Zeg9 Well, when I hosted a minecraft server, it would never use swap
11:49 Zeg9 But maybe that's related to minecraft, not java
11:50 Zeg9 Ouch
11:50 Exio my minecraft uses the swap when i 'allocate' more than half gb :P
11:50 Exio and well, minecraft client
11:50 Zeg9 http://pastebin.com/K3N3wPGX
11:50 moltenbot Zeg9's link: sqlite3 wii compiling - Pastebin.com
11:51 Exio aww
11:51 Zeg9 This ruined all...
11:51 Exio i should compile it for my android phone
11:51 Exio easy ^ :P
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11:52 markveidemanis who has a dev mod for me to test
11:52 john_minetest back
11:52 Exio wb
11:52 Zeg9 Eating now
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11:55 john_minetest idk if i should buy an android phone, root it, replace android with some other linux and play minetest on it.
11:55 john_minetest Touchscreen input for minetest as an option in the menu...
11:56 markveidemanis how can you replace an operating system
11:56 john_minetest if you root your android you can somehow
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11:57 Exio i was thinking about doing that, but that isn't that easy
11:57 john_minetest if i buy an android i will at least install canyogen mod. google steals your data.
11:58 Exio cyanogen*?
11:58 john_minetest yes.
11:58 markveidemanis ?
11:59 Exio john_minetest: one thing, check the specs, possibly only a 'high end' phone can handle the things from a small desktop
12:00 Exio and where is the touchscreen input?
12:00 Exio s/?/option?/
12:00 john_minetest Exio: I found an android phone for 79 Euros. 0.8 mhz cpu. so it might not be able to run minetest. touchscreen input was just a suggestion.
12:00 Exio 800 MHz*?
12:00 Exio ah, well
12:00 john_minetest Ghz
12:01 john_minetest 0.8 Ghz, 800 Mhz
12:01 Exio yeah
12:09 john_minetest Why are they making it so difficult to install other operating systems on their devices? Now also on PCs with UEFI.
12:10 Exio maemo was better than android
12:10 Exio sudo gainroot
12:10 iqualfragile using win 2000 an 800mhz-cpu is quite usable
12:10 Exio apt-get install build-essentials cmake lua lua-dev
12:11 Exio lol windows 2000
12:12 john_minetest lol. maybe installing other linux-es is easier on meegoo... i will look what hardware i can find.
12:16 john_minetest are there any smartphone OSes that make it easy to install an other OS?
12:16 Jordach none
12:16 Jordach depends on the NAND lock they install
12:17 john_minetest it is so annoying.
12:18 bas080 More then a hundred posts :D
12:19 Zeg9 Back
12:19 john_minetest wb
12:21 Exio john_minetest: the 'easiers' systems for installing linuxs, are androids, mainly because you can use the kernel+modules and other opensource stuff for getting it working
12:22 john_minetest yeah. but can you directly boot linux on android or just through chroot?
12:23 Exio you can, the two ways
12:25 john_minetest ubuntu comes on tablets. other linux distros should work on them, too.
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12:26 markveidemanis hhhiii
12:26 Zeg9 Have you seen that ?
12:26 Zeg9 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58672#p58672
12:27 moltenbot Zeg9's link: [Mod] Simple Mobs [mobs] (Page 8) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
12:27 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3N0Yg
12:27 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Hi moltenbot !
12:28 Exio hahahaha
12:29 celeron55 Zeg9: oh dog what
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12:30 Zeg9 Yeah. I didn't thinks this issue was provocated by something like that...
12:30 Zeg9 think*
12:31 celeron55 lol, taoki left an hour ago
12:31 john_minetest that's nice http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24233085#post24233085
12:31 moltenbot john_minetest's link:  [REF][ICS] Kernel Stuffs - How is ICS Kernel Different | updated may-28-2012 - xda-developers
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12:36 celeron55 Zeg9: most likely that *is* the actual issue
12:36 Zeg9 Yeah
12:39 * markveidemanis is compiling the latest minetest]
12:44 iqualfragile are there 3d-mobs?
12:44 iqualfragile (im not talking about that humanoid thing)
12:44 Zeg9 There is mob framework, but it still uses nodeboxes :/
12:44 Exio someone should make the models
12:45 iqualfragile iirc there were some people willing to do that
12:48 Jordach IT MIGHT be possible to make simple mobs use the player model since their appearance looks like the old player
12:48 Exio maybe, but every mob with the same model ...
12:48 Exio hm :P
12:49 iqualfragile yeah, we do definitly need some other models
12:49 Zeg9 Make simple mobs different ?
12:49 markveidemanis hi#
12:49 iqualfragile !ping github
12:49 moltenbot host github DOWN
12:50 Zeg9 Well, Oerkki, dungeon master, rat and sheep wouldn't use the player model.
12:50 iqualfragile !ping github.com -.-
12:50 moltenbot 64 bytes from 207.97.227.239: icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=87.0 ms
12:50 john_minetest there is a forum thread about new models
12:50 Zeg9 There were already some Oerkki and DM models submited
12:50 Zeg9 "The Realm of 3D mobs" I think
12:50 Zeg9 !g The realm of 3d mobs minetest
12:50 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1594
12:51 iqualfragile yeah, well, he did not publish them, did he
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12:52 Zeg9 Oerkki one: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=20068#p20068
12:52 moltenbot Zeg9's link: The Realm of 3D Mobs (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
12:52 Zeg9 http://filesmelt.com/dl/mt_mob_mesh.zip
12:52 moltenbot Zeg9's link: mt_mob_mesh.zip - FileSmelt File and Image
12:52 Zeg9 There is no license information, though :/
12:53 iqualfragile so its public domain!
12:53 Zeg9 We'd better remake one
12:55 Zeg9 I'll try to make some meshes.
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12:57 Exio i suck at design grr, i can't help :<
12:58 markveidemanis http://filesmelt.com/notfound
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13:01 john_minetest i can make some meshes.
13:03 john_minetest what meshes are nessecary? someone wanted a pig in forum iirc.
13:07 Zeg9 I'm a bit tired to do meshes.
13:07 Zeg9 john_minetest, maybe one for oerkki, DM,rat and sheep?
13:08 john_minetest yeah. i'm on it. but i think the oerkki and DM from the post are nice
13:11 Zeg9 They are nice. But... no license information
13:11 Zeg9 Maybe we should just request this :)
13:12 john_minetest yeah. just modelling the pig :)
13:13 Zeg9 I'll work on the planes mod
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13:18 markveidemanis yay, work on planes mod
13:21 Zeg9 1000101 1100001 1110011 1111001 100000 1101111 1101110 1100101
13:22 markveidemanis im am i will translate...
13:22 markveidemanis 7 bit??
13:22 john_minetest ‹‡Ÿ˜7îe
13:22 Zeg9 Hehe no
13:22 Zeg9 I knew you will find this site, john
13:23 Zeg9 Hint
13:23 Zeg9 If it's 7 bit, then the first bits have been removed ...
13:24 Zeg9 Because they are useless => 0 bits
13:24 markveidemanis first the picture, not THIS
13:24 markveidemanis #now
13:24 markveidemanis first the picture. now this
13:24 Zeg9 Yeah
13:24 Zeg9 I still have the picture ifyou want x)
13:24 markveidemanis so do i get "give" if i crazk it?
13:25 markveidemanis crack
13:25 Zeg9 Nop
13:25 Zeg9 Just a way to waste time.
13:25 markveidemanis but last time it was
13:25 markveidemanis hahahaha
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13:25 markveidemanis so you want towaste time, huh?
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13:29 markveidemanis_ hiiiiiiiiiiii
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13:30 john_minetest 1110100 1101000 1100001 1110100 100000 1110111 1100001 1110011 100000 1101110 1101111 1110100 100000 1110011 1101111 100000 1100101 1100001 1110011 1111001
13:30 markveidemanis anyone have a  non-laggy server?
13:30 markveidemanis 1000101 1100001 1110011 1111001 100000 1101111 1101110 1100101
13:32 markveidemanis anyone running server
13:32 markveidemanis [13:32] CTCP TIME reply from OldCoder: Sun Dec 23 05:31:22
13:33 OldCoder markveidemanis, Yes Mark...
13:33 OldCoder I am still in the same time zone as two hours ago
13:33 OldCoder :P
13:33 Zeg9 OldCoder won't sleep tonight
13:33 Jordach OldCoder, go grab yourself a coffee
13:33 OldCoder I will
13:33 OldCoder I need to sleep
13:33 markveidemanis hi
13:33 OldCoder Promised things to a bunch of people
13:33 OldCoder marktraceur, yes
13:33 * markveidemanis
13:33 OldCoder Oops
13:33 OldCoder markveidemanis, not marktraceur
13:34 markveidemanis tab?
13:34 OldCoder Yep
13:34 OldCoder Needs to work more like bash tab
13:34 OldCoder Finished blog
13:34 OldCoder time to sleep
13:34 Jordach OldCoder, annoying here as well
13:34 OldCoder Today I got about 5 things promised
13:34 OldCoder Oh?
13:34 Jordach hexchat with first aplhabetically
13:34 OldCoder ah
13:34 Jordach sorted tab
13:34 OldCoder Yes
13:35 * markveidemanis
13:35 OldCoder Yes, Mark; we see your name
13:35 OldCoder You have typed /me
13:35 OldCoder It is not entirely clear why
13:36 markveidemanis YAY!
13:39 Zeg9
13:40 Zeg9 Zeg9
13:40 markveidemanis markveidemanis
13:40 * Zeg9 is bored.
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13:44 markveidemanis Zeg9.........................................................................................................................
13:44 Zeg9 I am called zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis no, Zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis zeg9
13:45 markveidemanis ZeG9
13:45 markveidemanis i am bored too
13:45 Jordach Zeg9, you could make some player textures usingn skincraft
13:46 john_minetest i could make some. i made 9 of the textures from the package in [skins] mod
13:48 markveidemanis link .
13:48 markveidemanis to planes mod
13:49 markveidemanis telnet tosel.blinkenlights.nl: we all love this
13:49 markveidemanis 8888888888  888    88888                                                 88     88   88 88   88  88                                                 8888  88  88   88  88888                                                     88 88 888888888 88   88                                            88888888  88 88     88 88    888888
13:49 markveidemanis fail
13:49 markveidemanis it should say star wars
13:49 john_minetest oh, i know this
13:50 markveidemanis its cool right?
13:50 markveidemanis and kinda sad...
13:50 john_minetest :( zeg's stupid md5 hash put my temperature to 89 degrees celsius.
13:52 markveidemanis *cricket chirps
13:52 john_minetest 20 minutes and no solution... aborting
13:53 markveidemanis houston, abort
13:57 markveidemanis i am starting a new server
13:57 markveidemanis ...{...}
13:57 markveidemanis it will be survival and have only basic mods
13:57 markveidemanis anyone interested
13:58 markveidemanis it will also feature some other entity mods: ufo, boats, worldedit
13:58 markveidemanis inventory+
13:58 markveidemanis skins mod
13:58 markveidemanis cube
13:58 markveidemanis 3dforniture
13:58 markveidemanis utility
13:58 markveidemanis maptoold
13:58 markveidemanis #s
13:59 markveidemanis anyone interested in it???
13:59 markveidemanis WELL>
14:00 OldCoder markveidemanis, don't flood please
14:01 markveidemanis why are the not listening?
14:01 OldCoder You can combine some of that into a single paragraph
14:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, You are in the U.K.
14:01 OldCoder Is that correct?
14:01 OldCoder Most people are U.S.
14:01 markveidemanis yeh
14:01 markveidemanis yeh
14:01 OldCoder Or other countries
14:01 OldCoder ZZz
14:01 OldCoder Sleeping
14:01 OldCoder Now don't flood please
14:01 markveidemanis #Zzz, ZZz
14:02 markveidemanis ok
14:02 * OldCoder is asleep
14:02 OldCoder Mostly
14:03 OldCoder *sigh* Yes Mark I have not left my time zone
14:03 OldCoder It is still Pacific
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14:03 markveidemanis do you still see the notifications?
14:03 OldCoder Yes
14:03 OldCoder Hence my remark
14:03 OldCoder I do not read minds
14:03 OldCoder Usually
14:03 OldCoder :-)
14:03 markveidemanis :9)_
14:04 markveidemanis : - )
14:05 OldCoder markveidemanis, I take it you are bored. Go build a world or write a story.
14:05 OldCoder People will come to play later
14:06 markveidemanis me really boreesd
14:06 OldCoder Can you write?
14:06 OldCoder Write something
14:06 markveidemanis what?
14:06 OldCoder A story. Or learn coding.
14:06 OldCoder Learn Lua.
14:07 OldCoder markveidemanis, I need to sleep a bit. I assure you my time zone will not change today. Write a story. Learn coding. Walk a dog. Speculate about Christmas gifts. There are many possibilities.
14:07 markveidemanis ;(
14:08 OldCoder Why ;( ?
14:08 markveidemanis idk
14:08 markveidemanis just looks funny
14:08 markveidemanis ;( :( :) ;)
14:08 OldCoder Mark Next op up will probably mute you
14:08 OldCoder Not everybody likes CTCP pings over and over
14:09 * OldCoder shrugs
14:09 OldCoder If you behave I will consider running your world
14:09 OldCoder Go write a story or learn coding
14:09 OldCoder Zzz
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14:13 Zeg9 There are many supertux textures in xmoo
14:13 markveidemanis_ Greetings
14:13 Zeg9 There are many supertux textures in xmoto*
14:13 markveidemanis_ moo
14:13 john_minetest OldCoder: Take a cup of coffee or a Club Mate.
14:14 john_minetest OldCoder: Or go to bed :)
14:14 markveidemanis Zeg9: can i have link to planes mod
14:14 markveidemanis 0ldCoder? OldCoder...
14:15 markveidemanis o looks different
14:15 markveidemanis in the panel
14:15 markveidemanis
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14:15 markveidemanis hello
14:15 markveidemanis how's the inventory mod
14:15 mauvebic for the millionth time, i am not cornernote lol
14:16 mauvebic cornernote is gone
14:16 simion314 hi, how can i write same program in many microcontrolers(messecons mod) in an efficient wat?
14:16 mauvebic he's gone to london to see the queen
14:16 Zeg9 markveidemanis http://ompldr.org/vZ3NnNQ
14:16 simion314 i do not want to write the same code for 64 times
14:17 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58814#p58814
14:17 markveidemanis yay
14:17 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3N0Yg
14:17 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Hi moltenbot !
14:17 markveidemanis and moltenbot is silent!
14:17 mauvebic so hybrid dog is putting his stuff back and j4i is quitting? gonna need a news ticker to keep up with this stuff lol
14:18 markveidemanis dont ruin the silence
14:18 Zeg9 We have a weird community
14:18 markveidemanis ARRRRGGGGGHHHH
14:18 markveidemanis yep
14:18 Zeg9 :D
14:19 sfan5 does anyone want to play a Minecraft Adventure Map with me?
14:19 markveidemanis MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
14:19 markveidemanis ip of server
14:19 mauvebic zeg its definately looking multipolar these days lol
14:20 markveidemanis sfan5: warning, i have slow pc, though
14:20 Zeg9 http://ompldr.org/vZ3N1bA
14:20 moltenbot Zeg9's link: Moltenbot hi
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14:20 Zeg9 Oh, it didn't work.
14:21 * Zeg9 is sad now.
14:21 DarkAceLaptop how long should I wait for it to connect to a server?
14:21 markveidemanis what was suppose to happen
14:21 jin_xi DarkAceLaptop: it takes a while especially for servers with a lot of media heavy mods
14:21 Zeg9 There was a \n in the title
14:21 Zeg9 after hi
14:21 DarkAceLaptop ah
14:22 DarkAceLaptop is one minute a normal wait?
14:22 jin_xi indeed
14:22 Zeg9 DarkAceLaptop, are you talking about media loading, node or item, or Connecting to server
14:22 DarkAceLaptop Connecting to the server
14:22 Zeg9 The server must be down then
14:23 Zeg9 What ip is it?
14:23 DarkAceLaptop several ones
14:23 DarkAceLaptop oh
14:23 DarkAceLaptop something happened now
14:23 DarkAceLaptop magic.minetest.net
14:24 Zeg9 !up magic.minetest.net
14:24 moltenbot Minetest server magic.minetest.net:30000 DOWN
14:24 DarkAceLaptop couldn't resolve address
14:24 DarkAceLaptop oh
14:24 DarkAceLaptop !up 24.5.2.67
14:24 moltenbot Minetest server 24.5.2.67:30000 DOWN
14:24 Zeg9 !up minetest.org
14:24 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP
14:24 Zeg9 Try minetest.org port 30000 to 30017
14:24 DarkAceLaptop !up c55.me
14:25 moltenbot Minetest server c55.me:30000 DOWN
14:25 DarkAceLaptop :/
14:25 Zeg9 !up 94.23.33.108
14:25 moltenbot Minetest server 94.23.33.108:30000 UP
14:25 DarkAceLaptop \o/
14:25 Zeg9 !ping 65.55.58.201
14:25 moltenbot host 65.55.58.201 DOWN
14:25 Zeg9 o.o
14:25 Zeg9 Click this ip x)
14:26 john_minetest !up 127.0.0.1:30000
14:26 moltenbot Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000:30000 DOWN
14:27 john_minetest !up 127.0.0.1
14:27 moltenbot Minetest server 127.0.0.1:30000 UP
14:27 DarkAceLaptop lol
14:27 john_minetest best server ever is up
14:27 Zeg9 No
14:27 Zeg9 The best is this one:
14:27 Zeg9 !up 127.0.128.254
14:27 moltenbot Minetest server 127.0.128.254:30000 UP
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14:27 aldobr hi all
14:28 Zeg9 😼
14:28 Zeg9 Hi
14:28 DarkAceLaptop [✔]
14:28 Zeg9 😵
14:28 DarkAceLaptop Media takes a while lol
14:28 Zeg9 I like the cat smileys :p
14:28 Zeg9 DarkAceLaptop, have you started singleplayer before going to a server?
14:29 DarkAceLaptop yeah
14:29 DarkAceLaptop or
14:29 DarkAceLaptop you mean this session?
14:29 Zeg9 No, generally
14:30 Zeg9 Well then just wait ...
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14:30 aldobr hey whats the max resolution of a nodebox ?
14:31 aldobr i am thinking about a way to design nodeboxes
14:31 aldobr a layered approach
14:32 aldobr drawing 2d figures
14:32 aldobr 1st layer : a 2d figure
14:32 aldobr 2nd layer : another figure
14:32 aldobr etc
14:32 Zeg9 aldobr, 0.5 in all directions is the maximum, -0.5 being the minimum, for the size of a node
14:32 aldobr -0.5 to 0.5
14:33 aldobr this means 1
14:33 aldobr but whats the ammount of subdivisions ?
14:33 Zeg9 There is no limit.
14:33 Zeg9 (I think)
14:33 sfan5 for anyone who wants to play my minecraft adventure map: 79.235.45.164:25567
14:33 aldobr i was thinking about a way to create a nodebuilder node
14:33 sfan5 afk
14:33 Zeg9 The only limits are imposed by your computer
14:33 aldobr to allow ingame nodbox creating
14:33 Zeg9 You can't add node in game.
14:33 Zeg9 They must be added on server start
14:33 aldobr why ?
14:33 aldobr hm...
14:34 aldobr :/
14:34 aldobr it would be cool
14:34 aldobr right click a special node
14:34 aldobr get a formspec with X x Y buttons
14:34 aldobr press buttons to build a layer
14:34 aldobr press next to go to next layer
14:34 aldobr when finished
14:34 aldobr press generate
14:34 aldobr bam ! a new nodebox is created from scratch
14:34 aldobr go to another node and file a recipe
14:34 Zeg9 aldobr, see painting mod
14:35 aldobr paiting cannot do 3d things
14:35 aldobr Zeg9
14:35 aldobr imagine that you stack image over image
14:35 aldobr this will create a 3d thing
14:35 aldobr out of the pixels of each image
14:35 Zeg9 No, but only textures can be modified I think
14:35 Zeg9 That would be messy.
14:36 Zeg9 Oh, but there is a possible solution.
14:36 Zeg9 Use entities. There can be more than one entity per node
14:37 Zeg9 10 cents plizz âž“
14:38 john_minetest sfan5: minecraft-style adventure map or real minecraft map on minecraft server?
14:38 * Jordach sips tea
14:38 sfan5 john_minetest: what?
14:39 john_minetest sfan5: is the adventure map a minetest map in minecraft style, or a minecraft map?
14:39 sfan5 john_minetest: minecraft
14:39 * sfan5 is now afk (really)
14:40 john_minetest okay.
14:40 iqualfragile john_minetest: there is a minetest-server running on the same server as moltenbot so localhost is up
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14:47 * markveidemanis is playing minecraft
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14:51 jojoa1997 can anyone help i need to make the npcs drop a mese crystal fragment look at lines 417-424  http://paste.dy.fi/ZEq
14:51 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
14:54 jin_xi Taoki[laptop]: check todays -dev log
14:55 jojoa1997 where is that
14:56 * Jordach wonders when jordach became good at pvp
14:57 * jojoa1997 wonders when Jordach started playing Black Ops
14:57 Zeg9 Jordach, I'm worse...
14:57 jojoa1997 can anyone help
14:57 Jordach jojoa1997, i have 390G on Black Ops 1 for 360
14:57 jojoa1997 LOL i did  not know
14:58 markveidemanis who gas minecraft
14:58 markveidemanis #has
14:58 jojoa1997 jordach could you help me with the mod
14:58 jojoa1997 not me
14:58 Jordach hm?
14:58 jojoa1997 brb
14:58 Zeg9 jojoa, are you sure you need to do obj:get_luaentity()
14:58 Zeg9 Or wait...
14:59 Zeg9 Jojoa, check here
14:59 Zeg9 https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/blob/master/init.lua
14:59 moltenbot Zeg9's link: item_drop/init.lua at master ? PilzAdam/item_drop ? GitHub
14:59 Zeg9 For item dropping
14:59 Zeg9 => local obj = minetest.env:add_item(pos, name)
14:59 Zeg9 not add_entity, add_item
15:00 jojoa1997 back
15:00 Zeg9 jojoa1997, ^
15:01 jojoa1997 how do i make it add a ceryain object
15:01 Jordach jojoa1997, i know nothing of the higher level minetest modding api
15:01 jojoa1997 i want the npcs to drop something when they die
15:02 jojoa1997 there is no errors with lines 417-424 but they dont do anything in game
15:02 Zeg9 minetest.env:add_item(pos,"default:mese_crystal")
15:02 Zeg9 jojoa ^ I think
15:02 jojoa1997 but how do i set the item addded
15:03 Zeg9 the item is default:mese_crystal here
15:03 Zeg9 just replace by what you want
15:04 jojoa1997 is this right  local obj = minetest.env:add_item(pos, "default:mese_crystal_fragment")
15:05 Zeg9 I think so
15:06 jojoa1997 nothing happens
15:07 jojoa1997 how would i make it work with  if self.object:set_hp(20) then
15:07 jojoa1997 hp(0)
15:08 jojoa1997 if self.object:set_hp(0) then do function(pos, item)
15:08 iqualfragile ah, we are lucky, the models do have a license
15:09 jojoa1997 ?
15:09 jojoa1997 can you help
15:09 iqualfragile even if its no real formal licence it states that no proffit shal be made and that credit should be given
15:10 jojoa1997 i gave credit in the forum topic
15:10 jojoa1997 can you help
15:10 Zeg9 iqualfragile: fine :)
15:11 jojoa1997 the error says name expectec near '('
15:11 jojoa1997 if self.object:set_hp(0) then do function(pos, item)
15:12 jojoa1997 just to forwarn i am a begginer
15:13 markveidemanis Zeg9:whats the ip of the server u r on>
15:13 jojoa1997 [10:01] <jojoa1997> i want the npcs to drop something when they die
15:13 Zeg9 127.0.0.1
15:13 jojoa1997 private
15:14 Zeg9 singleplayer
15:14 markveidemanis zeg, the minecraft server
15:14 jojoa1997 oh sorrry
15:14 jojoa1997 wrong person being talked to
15:14 markveidemanis who has a minecraft server
15:14 jojoa1997 so any idea how to fix it
15:15 Zeg9 jojoa, send me your code, I'll try it
15:15 jojoa1997 k
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15:17 Minetest-tan GIT: celeron55 (Perttu Ahola) commited to celeron55/minetest: Initialize all member variables of LuaEntitySAO 0f1d2c127c 2012-12-23T07:16:46-08:00
15:18 DarkAceLaptop are there any mobs in minetest?
15:18 markveidemanis who has a MINECRAFT server
15:18 markveidemanis sdzen?
15:18 jojoa1997 [url=http://ompldr.org/vZ3N2Yg]http://ompldr.org/vZ3N2Yg[/url]
15:19 jojoa1997 there is the download
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15:19 Zeg9 DarkAceLaptop, there are mods for mobs
15:19 Zeg9 !g minetest simple mobs
15:19 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3133
15:19 DarkAceLaptop o
15:19 Zeg9 !g minetest mob framework
15:19 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
15:20 jojoa1997 this is not mobf but a different mob
15:28 markveidemanis Zeg9, what you doin?
15:29 Zeg9 Fixing jojoa's mod
15:29 markveidemanis linkkk
15:30 markveidemanis whats the mod
15:30 markveidemanis whats rmehd nfnhdjd
15:30 markveidemanis whoops
15:30 markveidemanis soz
15:33 * markveidemanis is on redcrab's server
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15:40 markveidemanis hi
15:40 markveidemanis i am bored
15:41 markveidemanis gtg
15:41 markveidemanis *back
15:41 john_mt|afk omg, i finally animated a pig!
15:41 markveidemanis time travel?
15:41 markveidemanis LINK
15:42 Jordach was it for science?
15:42 Zeg9 lol jordach
15:42 Zeg9 so john, you're not so afk
15:42 Jordach markveidemanis, dont ask for links to everything, people might not have put it online.
15:42 john_minetest just came back
15:42 markveidemanis really?
15:45 Jordach john_minetest, does it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/SXhWn.png
15:45 markveidemanis tpuggu
15:45 markveidemanis piggu
15:46 markveidemanis minecraft
15:47 jojoa1997 how do you make an on_activate
15:47 john_minetest a bit different
15:47 john_minetest but the sheme is the same
15:47 john_minetest 4 legs, one body, one head.
15:48 markveidemanis scheme
15:48 john_minetest no neck
15:48 markveidemanis why
15:48 markveidemanis maybe add an antennae
15:48 jojoa1997 how do you make an on_activate
15:48 john_minetest lol, the sky here has a strange color.
15:49 markveidemanis [15:47] <jojoa1997> how do you make an on_activate
15:49 john_minetest markveidemanis: we can read.
15:50 markveidemanis screenshot
15:50 jojoa1997 soryy
15:55 markveidemanis p
15:55 markveidemanis P
15:55 markveidemanis i AM bored
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15:56 Zeg9 john_minetest, do you want to make the UV map and texture for plane, or should I do it?
15:57 john_minetest Zeg9: i can do it.
15:57 markveidemanis Zeg9 is away:eating
15:58 Zeg9 Back.
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15:59 davidpace Morning all! :-)
15:59 markveidemanis 71.57.8.234
15:59 markveidemanis good EVENING
16:00 davidpace Lol, Good Evening to you markveidemanis
16:00 markveidemanis good evening:)
16:00 davidpace What is CTCP TIME mean?
16:00 markveidemanis get local time
16:00 Jordach huh - my twitter found something stupid
16:00 aldobr2 client to client protocol time
16:00 davidpace Ahh okay
16:00 markveidemanis /ctcp <name> <time, version>
16:01 jeffrash OldCoder, can you give me world edit in minetest.org 30015?
16:01 jeffrash I'd like to be able to backup my castle
16:01 Zeg9 Jeff, OldCoder is sleeping
16:01 Zeg9 Maybe I can though
16:01 jeffrash ok, thanks
16:01 jeffrash I'm just Jeff in the game
16:01 davidpace My time right now is 10 AM
16:01 Jordach Zeg9, basic_privs allows granting and revoking of interact and shout
16:02 jeffrash 11am here
16:02 jeffrash ok, I want to be able to keep backups of my castle
16:03 Zeg9 Jeff, just one thing about worldedit, don't use it where you don't have permission ok?
16:03 markveidemanis ARE YOU GIVING HIM WORLDEDIT?
16:03 markveidemanis also, i found a bug
16:04 markveidemanis if i connect with latest, i cant fly through walls...
16:04 Zeg9 mark, Jeff made a huge castle with only fly and fast
16:04 Zeg9 If you do same, maybe you'll have worldedit too
16:04 jeffrash ok, I thanks
16:04 jeffrash I will only use it to backup my castle
16:05 jeffrash I lost 20+ hours of work on it yesterday
16:05 jeffrash I would like to backup
16:05 markveidemanis i made a house, but the backup screwed it up
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16:07 aldobr2 zzzzzzzzzz
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16:08 markveidemanis_ greets
16:08 * Jordach + Pixel Shading + LSD + Music + GLSL = http://i.imgur.com/9hajl.jpg
16:09 Exio markveidemanis_: uh? you need the 'noclip' priv for flying through walls
16:09 markveidemanis_ wtf
16:09 john_minetest worldedit makes a backup on the server
16:09 markveidemanis_ ohh
16:09 markveidemanis_ not in 0.4.4
16:09 Exio yes in 0.4.4
16:10 Jordach markveidemanis_, i read git and it is correct -- noclip is needed to fly through blocks
16:10 markveidemanis_ no, 0.4.4 allows me to go through walls, 0.4.? does not
16:10 Exio 0.4.4 is the last release and the first with that feature
16:11 VanessaE good morning all..
16:11 Jordach hello VanessaE
16:11 john_minetest hello
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16:12 davidpace Hello VanessaE
16:12 VanessaE hi :-)
16:13 Zeg9 Hi VannesaE
16:14 * john_minetest <3 xkill command
16:15 Jordach fromy ctcp time it is: 1 day, 7 hours, 44mins and 26 seconds
16:15 Jordach from my
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16:18 VanessaE 1 day 7:44:26 for what?
16:20 Jordach >jordach< CTCP TIME
16:20 Jordach * Received a CTCP TIME from Jordach
16:20 Jordach -Jordach- TIME Sun Dec 23 16:13:34 see?
16:21 john_minetest For me: TIME Sun Dec 23 17:21:38
16:22 john_minetest so for ctcp myself
16:22 Jordach i just looked on omploader and one of the top files is Calinou's moreores
16:22 VanessaE oh.  thought you were measuring time since some obscure Mayan event or something ;-)
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16:22 Jordach VanessaE, think.
16:22 ecube VanessaE: Who cares about mayans now ;)
16:23 Jordach Calinou, your moreores.zip is one of the hottest downloads on omploader
16:23 Jordach http://ompldr.org/vZ3N3Nw/hiresmt.png VanessaE
16:23 VanessaE oh you mean that weird religious holiday?  Hrm, I think I saw something on The Onion about it...
16:23 VanessaE ;-)
16:24 VanessaE interesting take on "high res" :-)
16:24 Jordach Zeg9, hm?
16:24 Jordach cant you just use /msg or a query?
16:24 Zeg9 No that was just a test, sorry for annoying
16:24 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/nt6Nv.png -- Calinou check it out!
16:24 Zeg9 I should have tested on myself lol
16:24 Jordach Zeg9, i didnt mind
16:24 * Jordach nwas wondering why
16:25 Calinou Jordach: this happened more than once :)
16:25 Jordach lol
16:26 * Jordach + Pixel Shading + LSD + Music + GLSL = http://i.imgur.com/9hajl.jpg
16:26 Jordach hehe!
16:26 Calinou pixel shading is for direct3d users
16:26 Zeg9 LSD takes an important part here
16:26 Zeg9 Drugs are bad.
16:27 Jordach Zeg9, thats the joke
16:27 Jordach the pc is on lsd
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16:27 Zeg9 !g educational drugs minetest
16:27 Minetest-tan Zeg9: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4103
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16:27 VanessaE dammit
16:27 VanessaE wrong window
16:27 * Jordach sniggers
16:28 Jordach Zeg9, i can render that at 12000x12000
16:28 davidpace I wanna see someone make a 50x50 texture pack :D
16:29 VanessaE 50x50?  pfft.  mine maxes out at 512x512 :-)
16:29 VanessaE and one person did a 1024px one before :-)
16:30 davidpace Who did?
16:30 VanessaE I don't remember the person's name now
16:30 aldobr2 how does the engine behaves with 1024x textures ?
16:30 davidpace That's nuts...
16:31 davidpace What did they use? Paint Bucket to do it? :-)
16:32 aldobr2 i have an idea for a mod
16:32 aldobr2 that i wont make
16:32 aldobr2 a telephone booth
16:32 aldobr2 disable shout and people can only communicate using telephones
16:32 aldobr2 or make shout only short range
16:32 aldobr2 and long range communication needs phones
16:33 aldobr2 this would unclutter minetest chat
16:33 Zeg9 Yeah.
16:33 Zeg9 Good idea you have here
16:33 iqualfragile "i added damage to the drugs to make the mod educational"
16:33 davidpace Lol
16:33 aldobr2 hehe i dont find the drugs mod educational at all
16:34 sfan5 re
16:34 aldobr2 minetest should be free of any drug reference
16:34 VanessaE drugs mod is...  questionable at best.
16:35 davidpace Agreed
16:35 VanessaE maybe the marijuana could be useful given its relationship to hemp, but the rest?  just plain dumb.
16:35 aldobr2 we have other sources of hemp-like material that are not related to marijuana
16:35 aldobr2 brazilian babaçu being an example
16:36 JesseH Because cannabis is just like meth
16:36 VanessaE not even close, JesseH and lets not start that discussion here.
16:36 JesseH xD
16:37 davidpace Hehe, do this convo in /msg :D
16:37 JesseH Yeah not a good place.
16:37 Zeg9 Interesting discussion.
16:37 Zeg9 It looks like you know a lot about drugs lol
16:38 JesseH Anyone made a hemp tycoon game?
16:38 JesseH mod*
16:39 JesseH It seems though, that hemp tycoon isn't exactly about paper, but it's the way you look at it I guess.
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16:39 davidpace Lol, Zeg9
16:40 davidpace :-)
16:40 Jordach Jeija, hey
16:40 Jordach also, mesecons is almost a year old!
16:41 Jordach i was there when it was posted
16:41 Calinou more than, no?
16:41 Jordach Calinou, 25/12/11
16:41 Calinou k
16:41 davidpace On Christmas.
16:41 Jordach !g mesecons
16:41 Minetest-tan Jordach: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=628
16:41 Calinou oh, it was a christmas gift
16:41 VanessaE hey, Jeija
16:41 Calinou lol, first result
16:41 Jeija I know, Jordach, posted on christmas
16:42 davidpace Actually, It was on the 24th..
16:42 davidpace Close enough!
16:42 Jordach davidpace, remember time zones
16:42 davidpace Oh, nyes yes. Thank you for reminding me :D
16:42 davidpace *yes
16:42 Calinou "nyes" -- when a nyan cat says "yes"
16:43 markveidemanis_ davidpace
16:43 davidpace Lol
16:43 Jeija Nothing so exciting this year, although I was planning another mod release...
16:43 davidpace Yes markveidemanis_?
16:43 Jordach Jeija, yes?
16:43 Jeija I can't finish it till tomorrow, maybe new years eve
16:43 Jordach 2013. here we come.
16:43 davidpace Yep
16:43 Jeija surprise
16:44 markveidemanis 2013, cya tomorrow
16:44 Jeija I thought I wouldn't be able to release it anyway after the 21st December
16:44 Jordach Jeija, it was bullshit anyways
16:44 Jordach austrailia would have been the first target
16:45 Calinou australia lags, so it wouldn't
16:45 aldobr2 people created a lot of fuss about a simple calendar bug
16:45 davidpace Haha
16:45 davidpace Yeaaap
16:45 aldobr2 that wouldnt happen if the mayan calendar was done in pearl
16:45 Calinou perl*
16:46 Zeg9 Just buy suicide boots if you planned the end of the world.
16:46 Jeija Seems like I've started a conversation about the apocalypse -_-
16:46 davidpace Hahahaha I was just looking at that mod!
16:46 aldobr2 suicide booths would be better
16:46 davidpace Suicide Boots!
16:46 Zeg9 Agrees, suicide booths
16:46 * Zeg9 loves futurama
16:46 markveidemanis suicide door
16:46 Zeg9 No, about suicide
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16:47 markveidemanis yay post pic of fry
16:48 Zeg9 http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3300000/Suicide-Booth-futurama-3305111-1024-768.jpg
16:48 * Jordach hunts for the elusive TV remote
16:48 JesseH Lua problem, if anyone feels like helping. Lets say that I have apple = "whats up". How do I split it up by the " " (space) and make "whats" and "up" seperate?
16:49 Calinou concatenation!
16:49 Calinou apple = "this is " .. "an apple"
16:49 Calinou = this is an apple
16:49 Jordach Calinou you beat me there
16:49 JesseH No like
16:49 Zeg9 JesseH, did you mean "whats up":split(' ')
16:49 Calinou (spaces are not added, you have to add it yourself like i did)
16:49 davidpace Who likes the mese crystal?
16:49 * Zeg9 likes
16:50 JesseH oh yeah split() that might be it
16:50 VanessaE davidpace: I do :-)
16:50 JesseH I need to get the first argument with a string returned, then respond the second argument.
16:50 Zeg9 VanessaE, surprising
16:51 VanessaE because keeping a joke block purely because we already had it for a while and not acknowledging its usefulness is dumb :-)
16:51 Zeg9 JesseH: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/builtin/misc_helpers.lua#L77
16:51 davidpace I would rather keep the Mese Block, But I am open to change :-)
16:51 moltenbot Zeg9's link: minetest/builtin/misc_helpers.lua at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
16:51 JesseH Zeg9, thanks
16:52 Calinou VanessaE: suicide boots should be added to main game imo :P
16:52 VanessaE heh
16:55 markveidemanis i hate the new mese
16:56 VanessaE why?
16:57 Zeg9 mark, there is a mod bi Jeija to put the old one back
16:57 markveidemanis no complaint about look, but it makes error messages on startup
16:58 markveidemanis cannot find texture for<steelshovel, [...]>
16:58 markveidemanis generating dummy texture for <>
16:58 VanessaE that's completely unrelated?
16:58 VanessaE you probably need to re-install your game, your textures git deleted or corrupted.
16:58 markveidemanis steelshovel, mesepick, more
16:58 markveidemanis ok
16:58 VanessaE got*
16:59 markveidemanis then when i look in inventory, its the same
16:59 markveidemanis also, why crtstals and not ingots?
17:00 VanessaE because c55 said he sorta thinks of mese as an alien artifact or something, and making it into ingots would be too plain
17:00 Zeg9 markveidemanis, steelshovel thing is from my planes mod XD
17:00 Zeg9 completely unrelated
17:00 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3524
17:01 Zeg9 moltenbot, what is that?  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3524
17:01 moltenbot Zeg9's link: [Mod] Mese Ingot And Mese lump (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
17:01 markveidemanis but why 2 types
17:01 markveidemanis default:mese should be the ore and the block
17:01 markveidemanis whoops, i deleted minetest
17:01 VanessaE impossible
17:01 markveidemanis no its not
17:01 VanessaE you can't make it both without going back to the old mese.
17:02 markveidemanis right click+move to recycle bin
17:02 markveidemanis huh, oh that!
17:02 VanessaE duh :-)
17:02 VanessaE you could make it an ore and make that drop mese blocks but that defeats the purpose of this change
17:02 markveidemanis and the texture.....
17:02 VanessaE is beautiful, thank you very much :-)
17:02 markveidemanis could it be like default
17:03 markveidemanis :-)
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17:03 markveidemanis yellow block made in mspaint
17:03 VanessaE well if you don't like the texture, put in a texture pack :-)
17:04 davidpace I think we could be more creative with mese
17:04 markveidemanis yeh
17:04 VanessaE so much complaining over the textures and not enough focus on functionality, jeez.
17:04 jojoa1997 i like vanessae's mese change
17:05 markveidemanis zeg, what key is up for the plane
17:05 markveidemanis oh, space
17:06 davidpace I am not complaining, I think we could come up with something more creative then just a mese crystal -_-
17:06 VanessaE davidpace: so...um...craft something using crystals/fragments/blocks?
17:06 davidpace Not an ingot, not a block, not a crystal. Something more, something more creative
17:06 VanessaE why does this creativity have to be part of default?  basic functionality is more important for this, i think
17:07 davidpace Because without creativity everything would be dull
17:07 VanessaE yes, but put too much into it and you limit what other people can do with it
17:07 davidpace It can be basic, just something creative, not complex
17:07 markveidemanis an ingot is more creative
17:07 davidpace No mark
17:08 VanessaE hardly.  ingots already exist in the game
17:08 davidpace It's not
17:08 markveidemanis maybe a mese booth
17:08 markveidemanis :)
17:08 davidpace Agreed, VanessaE
17:08 VanessaE steel in default, and like 20 others between technic, more ores, diamonds, titanium, ...
17:08 davidpace I kind of like mito551's change on mese :D MESE (as Military Enveloped Special Equipment)
17:08 VanessaE ingots are boring and far too common.
17:09 VanessaE mito551 tries to turn a word into a backronym :-)
17:09 davidpace What does MESE stand for?
17:09 davidpace Nothing?
17:09 VanessaE Mese is a Finnish joke name for MSN Messenger or some such thing
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17:10 VanessaE it's a word, not an acronym :-)
17:10 thexyz Jordach: so secure
17:10 davidpace Okay
17:11 VanessaE thexyz: regarding that bug - you probably need a HD texture pack, and you have to have item preload turned on to expose it, and I suspect focus follows mouse but without raise on focus/click.
17:11 VanessaE I'll try again later and see if I can reproduce it.
17:12 VanessaE at any rate you have basically be configured to cause that long wait at what used to be the black screen
17:12 VanessaE have to*
17:12 davidpace Lol, seems as if Google.com is down :D
17:12 VanessaE davidpace: works for me.
17:12 davidpace Doesn't for me...
17:12 davidpace No browser I have works
17:13 davidpace It just says:No site configured at this address
17:13 celeron55 Military Enveloped Special Equipment sounds kind of funky
17:13 VanessaE davidpace: DNS error?
17:13 celeron55 that'd mean mese would be some kind of a box
17:13 markveidemanis who will build on my server
17:13 davidpace celeron55: I see your point
17:14 davidpace I guess so VanessaE
17:14 aldobr2 simple solution
17:14 aldobr2 remove mese from the game
17:14 aldobr2 add all real world minerals
17:14 davidpace But still, A crystal? Just doesn't sound right to me
17:14 aldobr2 and let the magic items be handled by mods
17:14 markveidemanis celeron55: that would be cool: a box :)
17:14 VanessaE aldobr2: realtest mod (I think)
17:14 davidpace That is what mito551 has in his dwarves game modw
17:14 davidpace *mode
17:15 VanessaE well it's game, not a mod, but anyway
17:15 davidpace MESE, in mito's game mode has a chance of dropping 4 ingots,    - Gold (moreores)          - Silver (moreores)          - Lead (moreores, instead of mithril)          - Copper (moreores)          - Ebony (dwarves)          - Steel (dwarves)          - Pobe (dwarves)          - Mithril (dwarves)          - Iron (default)
17:15 davidpace SOrry about that
17:15 davidpace Copy & Paste
17:15 VanessaE that is, as c55 would say, horrible.
17:15 markveidemanis [17:15] == markveidemanis was kicked from #gameboon by markveidemanis [wibble]
17:16 celeron55 i mean, mese being a box would be kind of like coins in super mario
17:16 aldobr2 i find mese to be just a kind of shortcut
17:16 markveidemanis yay, MARio
17:16 davidpace Haha, Yes celeron55, I'm not saying we should have it like this, I am just saying... That I kind of like it
17:16 aldobr2 dont know or too lazy to add a complex chain of materials to reach a certain effect ? add a magical item that does everything in just a step
17:16 Zeg9 Just make a mario mod then...
17:16 celeron55 completely senseful game-wise, but having no real-world sense whatsoever
17:16 VanessaE celeron55: ironic you should say that:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4111
17:17 aldobr2 you can make "mese" the result of a complex metalurgy process
17:17 aldobr2 like ... cant remmember the english word
17:18 Calinou alloy
17:18 davidpace Oh gosh, Please nothing with Magic, Wizards, Potions, Enchantments etc. Please don't add anything that even resembles that into the default game! PLEASE!
17:18 aldobr2 yes
17:18 aldobr2 alloy
17:18 Calinou read: no minecraft shit
17:18 davidpace Agreed, Calinou
17:18 aldobr2 let magic be handled by mods
17:18 davidpace Yes
17:18 VanessaE Zeg9: that makes for an interesting idea though....  really tall walls of cloud blocks set say 10 nodes apart in a REALLY long hall, with blocks created and positoned to be like SMB :-)
17:18 aldobr2 mese can be replaced by titanium i most circunstances that mese is used
17:19 aldobr2 *in
17:19 VanessaE davidpace: agreed, leave the RPG stuff to other mods
17:19 davidpace Ehhh, no
17:19 aldobr2 others can be replaced by diamond
17:19 davidpace Yes, VanessaE
17:19 aldobr2 etc, real world ores
17:19 celeron55 perfect realism isn't fun
17:19 davidpace Yep
17:19 aldobr2 not about perfect realism
17:19 celeron55 it's just a thing any nerd would do and then get bored with it
17:19 markveidemanis what about creepers:)
17:19 aldobr2 mods can unregister ores and add magical items
17:19 VanessaE NO!
17:19 aldobr2 just a plain starting point
17:19 VanessaE markveidemanis: BITE YOUR TONGUE
17:20 davidpace Lol
17:20 Zeg9 I'm french, please...
17:20 aldobr2 but i find mese a "hack", a shortcut for real functionality
17:20 markveidemanis OWWWW
17:20 aldobr2 (and its ugly as hell in current form)
17:20 john_minetest DM are the better creepers.
17:21 davidpace We need 3D mobs if any
17:21 markveidemanis no, creepers are single use
17:21 davidpace I would like mobs though :D
17:21 markveidemanis no mobs, this is minetest
17:21 Calinou no
17:21 davidpace And?
17:21 Calinou mobs would be better
17:21 aldobr2 mobs should be add by mods
17:21 Calinou the game is quite boring when you don't build
17:21 davidpace Calinou Agreed
17:21 Calinou if I want to build shit in an unlimited game, I play sauerbraten or red eclipse
17:21 aldobr2 because mods can range from ultra high tech robots to medieval fairytale entities
17:22 aldobr2 *mobs
17:22 davidpace And I don't care who says this is copying minecraft! We need melee or close up range mobs, and ranged mobs :D
17:23 aldobr2 well
17:23 aldobr2 for mobs, we need a pathfinding api
17:23 davidpace I dunno about blowing up mobs though, that sounds to much like minecrap
17:23 john_minetest there should be a mob framework with mesh mobs. the mobs framework is in default game.
17:23 aldobr2 i believe jordan tried to make a pathfinder in pure lua
17:23 aldobr2 i dont believe that this is efficient
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17:23 markveidemanis anyone know any good minecraft servers?
17:24 aldobr2 well, sorry for taking all the talk, now i will listen
17:24 aldobr2 that was my two cents
17:24 DarkAceLaptop minetest > minecraft
17:24 markveidemanis Noooooooooo
17:24 DarkAceLaptop minetest's worldgen is amazing
17:24 markveidemanis Noooooo
17:24 davidpace Well, Minetest is better then minecraft
17:24 JesseH DarkAceLaptop is right.
17:24 DarkAceLaptop minecraft's is boring now
17:24 davidpace Minecraft is stupid
17:24 DarkAceLaptop ^
17:24 JesseH minecraft = no scriptin && = java
17:24 john_minetest oh... i am smelling fresh christmas cookies... me gusta!
17:25 DarkAceLaptop loljava
17:25 markveidemanis if it has unlimited height, cant it use it, enourmous mountains...
17:25 davidpace Lol John
17:25 davidpace YES Mark!!!
17:25 davidpace Better, BIGGER mountains
17:25 markveidemanis so, you wanna play minecraft
17:25 markveidemanis lol
17:25 DarkAceLaptop enourmous mountains are awesome
17:25 davidpace And more plains :-)
17:25 JesseH Anywho, how do I get the amount of objects in a certain position?
17:25 markveidemanis no, BIGGER
17:25 DarkAceLaptop and the caves that are formed by them
17:25 aldobr2 JesseH
17:25 aldobr2 get_objects_in_radius()
17:26 DarkAceLaptop caves with water
17:26 markveidemanis get<whateverthehellyouwant>
17:26 john_minetest i once played minecraft. they have got nice server communities.
17:26 markveidemanis <,>
17:26 davidpace Yes
17:26 markveidemanis yeh
17:26 aldobr2 JesseH check this out : https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
17:26 davidpace I was talking about haveing water in caves
17:26 moltenbot aldobr2's link: minetest/doc/lua_api.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub
17:26 JesseH so why does "local list = minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);" return "attempt to index field 'env' (a nil value)"
17:26 VanessaE aldobr2: I just realized it was your mint/ASM mod I linked to :-)
17:27 VanessaE you may want to update your description and recipes/images to account for your proposed changes. :-)
17:27 thexyz JesseH: it's get_objects_inside_radius
17:29 aldobr2 VanessaE i will add more money based machines
17:29 aldobr2 like the telephone booth i am trying to make
17:29 VanessaE ok
17:29 JesseH thexyz, thanks
17:30 aldobr2 a telephone booth that charges 1 minetoon pences for each message :P
17:30 Calinou let's add Minetestcoins®
17:30 Zeg9 And an online shop to buy them
17:30 JesseH minetest.env:get_objects_in_radius(pos, 20);
17:30 Zeg9 with real money.
17:30 JesseH Same error
17:30 JesseH excuse me
17:30 JesseH minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 20);
17:31 jojoa1997 this is the error http://paste.dy.fi/lLT
17:31 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
17:35 markveidemanis hey is minecraft port UDP or TCP
17:35 Zeg9 UDP
17:35 VanessaE UDP
17:35 Zeg9 First :D
17:35 Calinou UDP
17:35 Calinou (:D)
17:35 markveidemanis k
17:35 VanessaE celeron55: is there any way for a mod to forcibly change the player's view/yaw?
17:36 celeron55 wait, what?
17:36 celeron55 the question was about minecraft
17:36 celeron55 MC uses only TCP as far as i know
17:36 VanessaE ahahaha I read Minecraft as Minetest :D
17:36 Zeg9 Oh it was minecraft
17:36 Zeg9 lol
17:36 Zeg9 We all failed
17:37 john_minetest yeah
17:37 JesseH I asked a python question in #lua onetime. Normally those things don't work.
17:37 markveidemanis who has MINECRAFT]
17:38 markveidemanis join #lua
17:38 Zeg9 Mark, you haven't bought it as far as I know
17:38 markveidemanis i have
17:38 markveidemanis well, i got 4 free:)
17:38 markveidemanis 86.172.133.242:25565
17:39 JesseH markveidemanis, you seem to be really focused on minecraft latley.
17:39 markveidemanis try to connect to minecraft server from minetest
17:39 Zeg9 Yeah
17:39 markveidemanis i know
17:39 Zeg9 markveidemanis, just go on #minecraft...
17:39 markveidemanis we all know...
17:39 markveidemanis there are a bunch of losers there:)
17:39 Zeg9 !up 86.172.133.242 25565
17:39 moltenbot Minetest server 86.172.133.242:25565 DOWN
17:39 Zeg9 We can't connect to it
17:40 JesseH they all play minecraft as well, what a ironic situation.
17:40 markveidemanis i know, its a minecraft server
17:40 markveidemanis in minecraft server console, i can ban players
17:41 JesseH Congratulations on that
17:41 Zeg9 That's great.
17:41 jojoa1997 for this error http://paste.dy.fi/lLT should i change minetest.env to minetest or env
17:41 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: pastebin
17:42 davidpace CRAP!
17:42 davidpace My email account has gotten hacked
17:42 markveidemanis LoooLL
17:42 Zeg9 How?
17:42 JesseH :/
17:42 VanessaE uh oh
17:42 davidpace They changed the password and secret questions!!!!
17:42 Zeg9 ah
17:42 VanessaE report them immediately.
17:42 Zeg9 That's dumb heh
17:42 Zeg9 Must be "school friends"
17:42 JesseH I was about to say.
17:42 davidpace VanessaE, How would I do that without knowing who did it?
17:43 davidpace No NO shcool friend
17:43 Zeg9 They have ip records, davidpace
17:43 davidpace s
17:43 VanessaE report the email address to the provider directly.
17:43 davidpace I am homeschooled
17:43 VanessaE they'll either figure out who it was or they'll reset your password.
17:43 davidpace Yes
17:43 JesseH It was one of your familiy members then.
17:43 Zeg9 Ah, that's fine. Must be some dumbass who think he's a hacker then
17:43 VanessaE (or do nothign)
17:43 davidpace NO
17:43 thexyz Jordach: post your init.lua
17:43 davidpace Alright
17:43 VanessaE davidpace: since it's been changed, what was your old password?
17:43 davidpace I have to go work on getting it back
17:44 JesseH "Oh look guys, Im elite, I can brute force an email address."
17:44 davidpace VanessaE, I will never tell you
17:44 VanessaE (and if you get it back, do NOT reuse that password either)
17:44 davidpace I won't
17:44 VanessaE I only ask because I'm curious if it's what we would consider "weak"
17:44 Zeg9 Yeah. If you tell us then we can be sure you won't use it again lol
17:44 markveidemanis i found in minecraft files...
17:44 VanessaE e.g. a word, a birthday, someone's name, etc.
17:44 markveidemanis max-build-height=256
17:44 Zeg9 markveidemanis, nobody cares about minecraft here
17:45 JesseH Again back to me asking a python question in #lua.
17:45 markveidemanis ]moo
17:45 Zeg9 Python rocks, lua too
17:45 JesseH Zeg9, yes, but that's beside the point.
17:45 Zeg9 lol yeah
17:45 JesseH :D
17:45 VanessaE davidpace: was it something like what I said?
17:45 Jordach thexyz, for what
17:45 JesseH Let's go to #halo and talk about COD.
17:46 davidpace VanessaE, No
17:46 thexyz oops
17:46 john_minetest Let's pipe our minetest "make" console output to #minecraft.
17:46 celeron55 yeah, and let's go to #windows to talk about installing archlinux
17:46 VanessaE davidpace: hm.  well at any rate, next time make it a "line noise" password (as I call it).
17:46 JesseH Let's do both.
17:46 thexyz jojoa1997: post your init.lua
17:46 thexyz wrong hl
17:46 davidpace Yes, VanessaE
17:47 VanessaE davidpace: you know, stuff of the form: ^&*$g8re@!&*tyD)320      (and write it down :-) )
17:47 davidpace ...
17:47 davidpace Okay
17:47 davidpace Lol
17:47 jojoa1997 so dont post my init.lua
17:47 VanessaE (there's a reason I keep all my passwords in an encrypted file - they're all line noise and impossible to remember, save for a few I use frequently :D )
17:47 jojoa1997 thexyz:/\
17:48 thexyz also try to use some of those æ ± ≤ ≥ °ȯȧė and like in passwords
17:49 markveidemanis santa is coming
17:49 celeron55 passwords are quite useless against targeted cracking unless you use stuff like VanessaE does... but i wonder how davidpace's account got cracked
17:49 markveidemanis łøł
17:50 markveidemanis ħełłø
17:50 VanessaE markveidemanis: oy, that makes the text look...wobbly :-)
17:50 celeron55 it's not like some person would specially target him, so they must have gotten the password from somewhere
17:50 thexyz then you may also use some password manager like keepassx
17:50 markveidemanis haha
17:50 VanessaE celeron55: I tend to agree, but then again it could have been a simple data leak, I see that stuff happen a lot lately :-/
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17:51 markveidemanis voilæ
17:51 VanessaE "Company X has suffered a breach in security.  X.yz million account records were compromised, possibly including credit card, social ID number, blah, blah, and password information."
17:52 markveidemanis blah
17:52 celeron55 that's exactly what you hear every month
17:52 markveidemanis ##security
17:52 john_mt|afk yeah. some time ago it was the League of Legends accounts.
17:53 john_mt|afk and now i am really afk.
17:53 markveidemanis you are |afk!
17:53 VanessaE celeron55: yeah, and it's starting to worry me a little...  some of those breaches are starting to get just a *little* close to corporations my Husband and I actually use
17:53 markveidemanis |0|
17:53 markveidemanis |o|
17:54 markveidemanis lol+101=|O|
17:55 JesseH Going to see about getting rid of ubuntu today, any suggestions on a replacement?
17:55 markveidemanis lubuntu
17:55 VanessaE Mint.
17:55 thexyz JesseH: gentoo
17:55 VanessaE or Xubuntu.
17:55 celeron55 try some rpm based distro just for the kicks
17:55 markveidemanis xubuntu
17:55 markveidemanis kubuntu
17:55 markveidemanis mythbuntu
17:55 JesseH I want to get away from debian guys
17:55 markveidemanis "edubuntu"
17:55 celeron55 or archlinux, to be fashionable and sooooo bleeding edge
17:55 JesseH Thats that point of the switch.
17:55 markveidemanis redhat
17:55 markveidemanis gnome
17:55 markveidemanis puppy
17:55 thexyz gentoo!
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17:55 JesseH I was thinking gentoo, arch, or slackware
17:56 VanessaE celeron55: that settles it, you are certifiably insane :-)
17:56 markveidemanis i will now type 1 key to the left of the keyboard
17:56 celeron55 VanessaE: wut? :P
17:56 markveidemanis jr;;p
17:56 VanessaE arch indeed :-)
17:56 JesseH Something with a niace package manager
17:57 JesseH I do like my apt-get install
17:57 VanessaE Jeija: connection issues?
17:57 thexyz archlinux definetly has newest packages, even newer than ~amd64
17:57 thexyz JesseH: gentoo has the most powerful package manager
17:57 markveidemanis get ubuntu
17:57 Zeg9 Arch
17:57 VanessaE thexyz: and the most glorious way to fail to install a package :D
17:57 markveidemanis ubuntu!
17:57 Zeg9 pacman -S <your package>
17:57 JesseH markveidemanis, you play minecraft, sshh!
17:57 markveidemanis pacman
17:57 thexyz VanessaE: dunno, it just works for me
17:57 thexyz except when it doesn't
17:57 markveidemanis ssh
17:58 markveidemanis SSH
17:58 markveidemanis ?
17:58 VanessaE thexyz: lol
17:58 Zeg9 Yeah, minecraft guys out of here
17:58 celeron55 gentoo is like arch in that extent
17:58 Zeg9 haven't tried gentoo yet
17:58 jojoa1997 is there a way to set the limit of how many entities there are
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17:58 celeron55 it works when it works, and when it doesn't, you better have an another computer to search the wiki and forums
17:58 celeron55 but you can fix it by hand then
17:58 JesseH Sooooo, arch then?
17:58 VanessaE thexyz: well having used gentoo for a reasonbly long period (about 2 years I think) at one time, I can say without reservation or fear of contradiction that it is NOT for the faint of heart or for anyone who just wants their machine to "just work" :-)
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17:59 markveidemanis lol
17:59 VanessaE of course that was 3 or 4 years ago I suppose :-)
17:59 thexyz JesseH: try both in VM
17:59 thexyz (you'll also have fun compiling gentoo inside vm)
17:59 celeron55 JesseH: are you prepared to update the whole system at least every month, and before doing that, looking through the news section of arch's website of things that you have to take into account in order to not break anything?
17:59 celeron55 if so, go ahead
17:59 celeron55 that applies for arch and gentoo
17:59 JesseH Yeah, I'de like to upgrade really. I like a good challenge.
18:00 Calinou lol
18:00 Calinou thexyz: apt is powerful
18:00 markveidemanis lollololol
18:00 Zeg9 If you update everyday then updates are fast
18:00 Calinou gentoo's PM is not that powerful though
18:00 markveidemanis no!"£"
18:00 * Calinou says a random apt feature
18:01 Zeg9 apt-get moo
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18:01 JesseH I am still lost, so I will try them all via vm
18:01 Zeg9 This APT has super cow powers
18:01 markveidemanis apt-get install hello random people you [message cut]
18:02 JesseH sudo apt-get remove *
18:02 markveidemanis NOOOO
18:02 markveidemanis NEVER
18:02 JesseH that obviousley removes the '*' from the end of that statement.
18:02 aldobr hey
18:02 aldobr its there any way to filter all chat messages ?
18:03 aldobr i want to make shout ranged
18:03 aldobr so you can only use shout to talk to someone inside a realistic range
18:03 davidpace *Sigh* from my secondary account, I sent an email to account-security-help@cc.yahoo-inc.com for help
18:03 davidpace I hope they can help
18:04 davidpace Anyways
18:04 davidpace I have to go
18:04 JesseH Just get a gmail and be happy :D
18:04 aldobr minetest.register_on_chat_message(func(name, message))
18:04 aldobr ^ Called always when a player says something
18:04 aldobr can i simply cancel the message ?
18:04 Calinou nope, it is impossible to cancel chat
18:04 markveidemanis nooooooooooooooo
18:04 markveidemanis press f2
18:04 aldobr i need a lua message filter
18:05 aldobr to force a range to the user talk...
18:05 markveidemanis noooooooooooooooooo
18:05 aldobr else he uses a telephone or radio
18:05 aldobr to talk longer ranged
18:05 markveidemanis yesssss
18:05 markveidemanis coooolll
18:05 markveidemanis 9*0
18:05 markveidemanis (*)
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18:07 aldobr im trying to make a telephone system for minetest
18:07 markveidemanis who will play blockforge with me
18:07 markveidemanis _______          _     _______ (_______)        | |   (_______)                                  _  _____ ___   ____| |  _ _____ ___   ____ ____  ____   ____   ____| |_ |  ___) _ \ / ___) | / )  ___) _ \ / ___) _  |/ _  ) |  _ \ / _  )  _) | |  | |_| | |   | |< (| |  | |_| | |  ( ( | ( (/ / _| | | ( (/ /| |__ |_|   \___/|_|   |_| \_)_|   \___/|_|   \_|| |\____|_)_| |_|\____)\___)                                        (__
18:07 markveidemanis that should say blockforge
18:07 markveidemanis if you squint...
18:07 JesseH *and suddenly, in a flash markveidemanis is banned*
18:08 Exio hahaha
18:08 markveidemanis [whoops]
18:08 markveidemanis not agaun
18:08 markveidemanis again
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18:10 markveidemanis who will play blockforge with me
18:10 JesseH What is that?
18:10 markveidemanis http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3907 <== this
18:11 JesseH I want to play  a little.
18:12 aldobr JesseH im on redcrab's
18:12 JesseH Forgot the ip lol
18:12 markveidemanis 86.172.133.242 <== to blockforge...and beyond!
18:12 JesseH aldobr, lets party up and do something normal minetesters would do
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18:13 markveidemanis yeh, all on my server
18:14 aldobr something normal minetesters would do ?
18:14 aldobr dig to 32k in search of nyan cats
18:14 Calinou they spawn anywhere under sea, no?
18:15 aldobr dunno
18:15 aldobr never found one :P
18:15 aldobr maybe thats why
18:15 aldobr haha
18:15 JesseH aldobr, I am on i think where are you
18:16 aldobr road to desert city -> road to new riverwood -> road to humble village
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18:27 JesseH the world doesnt load worth a dang
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18:33 Zeg9 brb, eating
18:40 DarkAceLaptop ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
18:48 john_minetest ¬_¬   0_o
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19:37 mauvebic !up mauvebic.strangled.net
19:37 moltenbot Minetest server mauvebic.strangled.net:30000 UP
19:39 Jeija A working multiplayer server list: http://i.imgur.com/o6YZs.jpg
19:41 RealBadAngel wow
19:41 RealBadAngel thats cool
19:42 thexyz Jeija: where's your source code availible?
19:43 NakedFury omg thats win potential
19:43 Jeija not yet, thexyz, I need to improve it
19:43 Jeija and I need someone to host the "central server"
19:44 thexyz why does it need central server?
19:45 Jeija Where should it get a recent server list from?
19:47 thexyz oh, i thought it only stores visited ones
19:47 Jeija It doesn't store visited ones yet
19:47 Jeija but I may implement it
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19:52 davidpace Hi Again :-)
19:53 NakedFury Jeija needs a new name. I propose Jeija "Freaking Awesome" lastname
19:58 davidpace So many great texture packs! Too many to choose from! :D
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19:59 NakedFury throw a dice
19:59 kaeza good evening
19:59 davidpace I don't have any DICE!
19:59 Jordach http://random.org
19:59 moltenbot Jordach's link: RANDOM.ORG - True Random Number Service
19:59 Jordach there, dice
20:00 davidpace Thanks ;)
20:01 davidpace The 3 I'm torn on is:  Medieval Castles, Minetoon, and HDX Textures  by VanessaE!
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20:02 davidpace 1. is  Medieval Castles 2. is Minetoon 3rd is HDX Textures by VanessaE!
20:02 davidpace Here it goes!\
20:02 davidpace 2
20:02 davidpace Minetoon
20:03 davidpace Minetoon it is! Sorry VanessaE! ;-)
20:06 Jordach meh to minetoon
20:07 kaeza HDX is awesome
20:07 kaeza I tried the 128px pack
20:07 Jordach na, hdx strains my pc like passing traffic
20:07 Jordach blindfolded
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20:08 aldobr hi all
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20:08 NakedFury hi
20:08 kaeza I have an e5700 dual core @3.1MHz x2
20:09 aldobr you made me remember of something
20:09 aldobr is minetest multi-threaded ?
20:09 kaeza with integrated intel i965 it runs at ~50FPS
20:09 kaeza aldobr: yes
20:09 aldobr hm nice
20:09 aldobr i will get a X4
20:09 aldobr used
20:10 aldobr i hope this improves my game speed
20:12 NakedFury I think it will
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20:14 davidpace You know what, I'll take VanessaE's texture pack instead of Gambits Minetoon! Sorry Gambit!
20:16 Exio kaeza: intel mobile?
20:16 Exio ah, i see
20:18 RealBadAngel davidpace, what about Haven tp?
20:18 kaeza ?
20:18 davidpace ?
20:18 davidpace Exactly kaeza
20:18 kaeza no actually intel series 4
20:18 davidpace lol
20:19 kaeza davidpace: ?
20:19 davidpace davidpace, what about Haven tp?
20:19 davidpace Quoted from RealBadAngel
20:19 davidpace I was wondering what he means
20:20 davidpace I can only guess its a texture pack
20:20 davidpace Ahh yes, tp= texture pack
20:20 davidpace Got it
20:22 kaeza (18:15:23) davidpace: Exactly kaeza
20:22 kaeza ?
20:23 davidpace Because you went "?" as I went "?" I thought we were reffering to the same thing, but we werent
20:23 davidpace Sorry
20:23 davidpace VanessaE are you here?
20:24 davidpace If you are here, please look at your server page on the forums!
20:24 kaeza k
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20:29 aldobr2 updated my mod
20:29 aldobr2 http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=48
20:29 moltenbot aldobr2's link: View mod - Minting & Automatic Vending Machine - Minetest Mods
20:30 kaeza aldobr2: cool
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20:35 NakedFury rarkenin: Considering some basic crystallography, mese shouldn't be a crystal since neither a microsoft messaging program nor 55 carbons(C55) can properly crystallize. The 55 carbons part is based on some simple back-of-the-envelope calculations, so I'll need to check it later.
20:35 NakedFury is that guy for real? that is a post about mese as crystal
20:36 kaeza lolwut
20:37 kaeza do we have to have real physics/biology/chemistry in MT now?
20:37 NakedFury apparently
20:37 NakedFury but he mentions microsoft messaging program too
20:38 NakedFury must be smoking some weird stuff
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20:45 babyface1031 hi everyone
20:46 kaeza man, just tell him already! the original idea of mese crystals (as I see it) is that MESE is a hard material like diamond, that is supposed to be the hardest material in game, hence, it should split into crystal shards. Not a bland material like clay or gold that is split into lumps.
20:47 kaeza forms into lumps*
20:47 kaeza hi babyface1031
20:48 RealBadAngel NakedFury, mese comes from m$ messenger name
20:48 RealBadAngel its an old joke
20:50 RealBadAngel so original idea was a funny node called after msn messenger
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20:58 davidpace VanessaE your texture pack is awesome! :-)
20:58 jojoa1997 I agree ;-)
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21:03 KikaRz hah.
21:03 KikaRz VanessaE, you there?
21:04 jojoa1997 i thinkshe is afk
21:04 jojoa1997 did not answer earlier
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21:10 kaeza back
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21:17 jojoa1997 how do you set radius
21:17 jojoa1997 get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius)
21:19 jojoa1997 anyone?
21:22 NakedFury no idea
21:23 jojoa1997 does this work
21:23 jojoa1997 get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 20)
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21:29 aldobr hi
21:35 aldobr my cat scratched my hand :/
21:35 aldobr bad cat
21:35 aldobr now i cant code
21:35 aldobr :/
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21:42 * Jordach hates bash like terminals
21:42 aldobr2 i hate bash at all
21:42 aldobr2 actually i hate anything made by the creators of c language
21:43 aldobr2 AND c language
21:43 Jordach c language is easy peasy
21:43 aldobr2 bash was not written by then
21:43 aldobr2 but was inspired by
21:43 aldobr2 so its on my hate list too
21:43 Zephyrus1497 Hey vanessa ur server isnt letting me log on
21:43 Zephyrus1497 nevermind
21:45 Jordach for gods sakes gcc, move yo damn ass
21:45 davidpace ... Who is he?
21:45 john_minetest back
21:47 aldobr2 oh my
21:47 Zephyrus1497 is there a server that has the weather mod?
21:47 john_minetest Jeija's Server menu is freaking awesome.
21:47 aldobr2 i typed /join #god
21:47 aldobr2 and the channel exists
21:48 john_minetest ummm...
21:48 john_minetest /join #jesus
21:48 Zephyrus1497 Who?
21:48 davidpace ...
21:48 john_minetest it really exists and there are even people on it!
21:49 aldobr2 to troll or not to troll
21:50 aldobr2 oh ...
21:50 aldobr2 my fingers itch
21:50 jin_xi lol
21:50 jin_xi do eet
21:50 Zephyrus1497 is there a weather mod?
21:54 davidpace How do I chat here through the irc mod?
21:54 davidpace Ingame i mean
21:54 aldobr2 i am looking for a channel where god answers
21:54 aldobr2 is god connected to freenode ??
21:55 aldobr2 ¬¬
21:55 davidpace aldobr don't be ridiculous
21:55 aldobr2 i am meaning the true god
21:55 aldobr2 (R)
21:55 davidpace Ugh
21:55 john_minetest nickname god is already registered
21:55 aldobr2 (C)
21:55 aldobr2 True God (C)
21:55 davidpace How do I chat ingame through the irc mod?
21:55 Zephyrus1497 can someone help me?
21:55 kaeza hi davidpace
21:55 aldobr2 hhahah
21:55 davidpace Hi kaeza
21:55 kaeza what's the prob with irc mod?
21:55 davidpace How do I use your mod?
21:56 john_minetest i think you have to install it first
21:56 davidpace How do I chat here through it?
21:56 aldobr2 god is using freenod
21:56 aldobr2 he is just not online
21:56 davidpace I installed it already
21:56 kaeza davidpace: modify config.lua
21:56 davidpace Gosh John, I'm not an idiot, Or maybe I am
21:56 Zephyrus1497 is there a good server that has the creative mode installed?
21:56 davidpace And what do I add?
21:57 kaeza davidpace: let's start with a simple test
21:57 kaeza start the game
21:57 davidpace Umm okay?
21:57 davidpace Staring
21:57 davidpace *Starting
21:57 aldobr2 #thelastchannelonfreenode
21:58 davidpace I am in
21:58 kaeza now in-game type "/irc_connect"
21:58 kaeza you should see "Now you are connected"
21:58 davidpace I did and now it crashed
21:58 kaeza WTF??
21:58 kaeza erm...
21:58 kaeza error?
21:58 davidpace Yep, lemme try once more. Minetest has been buggy today :/
21:59 * VanessaE wanders in and falls asleep on the channel easy chair
21:59 kaeza hey hey V
21:59 davidpace Errored again
21:59 davidpace VanessaE
21:59 VanessaE hi
21:59 davidpace Umm, please look at your server page on the forums
21:59 * VanessaE looks
21:59 kaeza davidpace: delete your debug.txt, start the game again, and when it crashes, upload your log and paste link here
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22:00 davidpace Umm oook
22:00 aldobr2 hi JesseH
22:00 JesseH I need a server that isn't so dang laggy.
22:00 aldobr2 i believe no one will ever use my mods
22:00 VanessaE david: yeah I saw that on the "every building block" structure.  I thought you revised it or something :-)
22:00 VanessaE need me to protect the area for you?
22:01 davidpace Yes please
22:01 davidpace I didn't do it though
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22:01 Zephyrus1497 Vanessae i cant load ur world its just grey al around me
22:01 JesseH aldobr2, I want to make mods, but I have barley played yet ;)
22:01 VanessaE ouch.
22:01 VanessaE ok, bye bye to those three mods.
22:01 kaeza JesseH: Y U NO PLAY YET??
22:01 VanessaE server restarted without those three mods.
22:02 davidpace Yay
22:02 JesseH no server that doesn't lag me
22:02 VanessaE much better now.
22:02 JesseH I just wanna like do something like minecraft, survival
22:02 kaeza JesseH: vanessae.mine.bz is tha best!
22:03 kaeza try mcbride.homelinux.net if you like Survival
22:03 aldobr2 redcrab's the best !
22:03 kaeza I can't play redcrab's. too laggy for me :(
22:03 davidpace kaeza, what is that?
22:03 aldobr2 actually, redcrab lags a little
22:03 Zephyrus1497 wats the port kaeza?
22:03 davidpace Hey kaeza I dunno if this is the right error: Access violation at 009CDFA4 write?=1 address=1807932272 16:00:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Access violation
22:04 VanessaE davidpace: sign onto the server plz
22:04 davidpace Okay VanessaE
22:04 kaeza davidpace: more context may make more sense
22:04 kaeza please upload your log
22:04 davidpace ?
22:04 davidpace Oh, how?
22:04 Zephyrus1497 mcbride.homelinux.netkaeza wats the port for that server u put up?
22:05 kaeza Zephyrus1497: 3000
22:05 kaeza 30000*
22:05 Zephyrus1497 ok thanks wait is it four 0's?
22:05 kaeza yup, thrity thousand
22:05 Zephyrus1497 sorry my computer is really slow
22:05 kaeza thirty*
22:05 aldobr2 why so many servers ?
22:05 aldobr2 this disperses the community
22:05 aldobr2 we need a single high performance server
22:06 davidpace OldCoders servers are good
22:06 kaeza aldobr2: everyone has their tastes
22:06 davidpace Will this help kaeza?: Access violation at 009CDFA4 write?=1 address=1807932272 16:00:46: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Access violation  In thread 418a4: C:\tmp\minetest\src\server.cpp:153: ServerThread::Thread: Assertion '0' failed. Debug stacks: DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD 4169c: #0  main (Leftover data: #1  ClientMap::renderMap) (Leftover data: #2  ClientEnvironment::step) (Leftover data: #3  Client::
22:06 kaeza ones like servers crammed up with mods
22:06 JesseH kaeza, you playing right now?
22:07 kaeza davidpace: upload your debug.txt file to a site like ompldr
22:07 kaeza JesseH: not right now
22:07 kaeza butI may be in a bit later
22:07 JesseH tell me when you do
22:07 kaeza I'm having network issues here
22:07 davidpace Pkay
22:07 davidpace *Okay
22:08 aldobr2 \\\
22:08 kaeza aldobr2: \\\o///
22:08 kaeza :P
22:09 davidpace Kaeza: http://ompldr.org/vZ3QxYQ
22:09 kaeza davidpace: checking...
22:09 aldobr2 i believe i have anxiety disorder
22:09 aldobr2 i feel like a cat in a jail
22:09 aldobr2 without something to do
22:09 aldobr2 yet when i try to write code
22:09 aldobr2 i cant
22:09 Zephyrus1497 wats the forum page for the interact privs kaeza?
22:09 aldobr2 :/
22:11 davidpace VanessaE: So you don't think you can do rollback? It'll take forever to figure out which blocks go where
22:11 kaeza davidpace: this is good to know, I haven't tested IRC on Windows yet
22:11 davidpace Okay
22:11 VanessaE davidpace: for starters I don't know how to use it. :-)   and besides, I was under the impression that it adds a pretty heavy load to a server
22:11 kaeza if it's not an error from another mod then my code may be broken
22:11 davidpace Yea, whoever needs someone to test something out on windows, lemme know and I will do it
22:11 VanessaE can someone confirm that?
22:12 Zephyrus1497 kaeza wats the forum page the server u posted so i can ask for the interact priv?
22:12 davidpace VanessaE it doesn't do anything to redcrabs server
22:12 kaeza Zephyrus1497: a moment please
22:12 davidpace But i dunno exactly
22:12 Zephyrus1497 ok
22:12 VanessaE redcrab's server runs on an Amazon AWS instance. :-)
22:12 kaeza Zephyrus1497: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057
22:12 moltenbot kaeza's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
22:12 aldobr2 i bilieve its ont of the reason for redcrabs major lag
22:12 davidpace VanessaE: I think it'd be good to make sure you can't do rollback
22:12 aldobr2 *believe
22:12 Zephyrus1497 thanks
22:13 davidpace Redcrabs server hardly lags, and when it does its because of all the players and creations on his server
22:13 VanessaE I'll enable rollback and see how it behaves then.
22:13 kaeza err... was that the one Zephyrus1497? or mcbride?
22:13 Zephyrus1497 mcbride
22:13 davidpace okay
22:14 davidpace VanessaE will you have to reboot the server?
22:14 kaeza Zephyrus1497: a moment
22:14 Zephyrus1497 k
22:14 VanessaE davidpace: no, I can just turn it on.
22:14 davidpace Okay cool
22:15 VanessaE ok, rollback recording is now enabled.
22:15 Zephyrus1497 how would i use rollback?
22:15 VanessaE it's something I have to use, but I don't know how it works yet
22:16 Zephyrus1497 oh
22:16 aldobr2 ?
22:16 davidpace You could ask redcrab or cactuz
22:16 kaeza Zephyrus1497: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4124
22:16 moltenbot kaeza's link: Testing Server & Survival. (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
22:17 kaeza but I don't know if it's up. I haven't seen kizeren nor his gamebot today (yes, he's using my IRC mod)
22:17 davidpace VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1156
22:17 moltenbot davidpace's link: [Mod] Rollback [0.1] [rollback] (WTFPL) (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
22:18 * VanessaE read.s..
22:18 kaeza !up mcbride.homelinux.net
22:18 moltenbot Minetest server mcbride.homelinux.net:30000 UP
22:18 VanessaE davidpace: that's jeija's mod, not the inbuilt rollback system
22:18 davidpace Okay
22:18 davidpace You don't think it'd be the same?
22:19 VanessaE the command is similar but I need to learn more about it
22:19 davidpace kk
22:20 NakedFury finished my entrance to the Thousand Thousand Steps that leads to the Underground City that has No Name
22:20 NakedFury http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/2gd5nlj8y
22:20 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Screenshot Uploader
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22:22 aldobr2 zzzzz
22:22 kaeza hmm... is it possible to add oblique surfaces?
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22:23 aldobr2 qwered made a oblique grass
22:23 aldobr2 dunno how
22:23 Zephyrus1497 does anyone kno if there is a server with the weather mod?
22:24 NakedFury is there a weather mod?
22:24 Zephyrus1497 yes
22:25 kaeza dunno about weather
22:25 aldobr2 anybody tried to model rain ?
22:25 kaeza I know of 4seasons
22:26 NakedFury I remember someone trying to add rain but encountering a limit some place on spawned entities
22:27 OldCoder Back
22:28 aldobr2 that would be nice
22:28 aldobr2 rain and water streams
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22:28 aldobr2 and objects that move because of water
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22:31 VanessaE bbl
22:31 NakedFury it would need to check all non blocky objects and make them droppped items, the same way when the block that holds a torch is taken and the torch falls
22:31 NakedFury that same principle should be given to flowers and the grasses and bushes
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22:41 OldCoder ?
22:42 davidpace Hi OldCoder!
22:44 iqualfragile hi OldCoder
22:44 OldCoder o/
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23:01 jakssoul Hola amigos.
23:01 Zephyrus1497 hi
23:01 jakssoul How's it going?
23:01 Zephyrus1497 bored theres noone to build with
23:02 jakssoul I might be getting on here in a minute, if you'd like?
23:02 Zephyrus1497 which server?
23:02 jakssoul Whatever you'd like.
23:02 jakssoul I don't mind, I'm a newb to Minetest. I played Minecraft for the longest time, though.
23:02 jakssoul Then I went.. Oh yeah! This sucks. >_<
23:03 Zephyrus1497 im on vanessae's server but u have to ask for the interact priv on the minetest forums
23:03 jakssoul She had me on her server last night when she helped me install the game./
23:03 jakssoul I might already have it. Not sure.
23:03 Zephyrus1497 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057 well if u dont heres the forum url
23:03 moltenbot Zephyrus1497's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
23:04 jakssoul I'll look into it once I get my laptop charger working.
23:04 Zephyrus1497 ok
23:05 jakssoul Any mods you'd recommend?
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23:05 Kacey hey guys im back
23:06 Zephyrus1497 for ur server?
23:06 Zephyrus1497 i mean world
23:06 jakssoul For singleplayer.
23:06 kaeza he hey Kacey
23:06 kaeza jakssoul: computers :)
23:06 jakssoul Already got em! They're awesome.
23:06 Kacey windows 8 sucks...
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23:06 jakssoul Yes, yes it does.
23:06 jakssoul Thank you, Kacey.
23:06 jakssoul Haha. :D
23:06 Kacey i have it now :'(
23:06 Zephyrus1497 i havent really used any mods yet but im going to try some out in a little bit in a different window
23:07 jakssoul Uninstall. Get Linux. Easy fix. I know, seeing that Windows Logo is a hardcore error message.
23:07 jakssoul XD
23:07 jakssoul Something didn't go right if you see that! Hahahaha.
23:07 kaeza ?
23:07 Kacey grandparents wont let me
23:07 jakssoul Oh that's too bad.
23:07 jakssoul Get a flash drive? Run a LIVE USB?
23:08 OldCoder Sure
23:08 OldCoder That works easy
23:08 jakssoul Ready for sarcastic messagee....
23:08 OldCoder ?
23:08 jakssoul Or were you being serious?
23:08 OldCoder I *make* those things
23:08 OldCoder Yes. I make them myself.
23:08 Kacey i need to set up a vm...
23:08 jakssoul Live USB's?
23:08 OldCoder <-- distro developer
23:08 OldCoder Sure
23:08 jakssoul Yeah, it's very easy.
23:08 OldCoder I carry the whole world on a keychain
23:09 jakssoul Not to make distros. But to make Live USBS.
23:09 OldCoder I do both I assure you
23:09 jakssoul I have like, six different distros on my USB stick right now.
23:09 OldCoder Yep
23:09 jakssoul I meant making distros is difficult.
23:09 OldCoder I also make a MultiOS CD
23:09 OldCoder It takes a while
23:09 jakssoul I can as well.
23:09 jakssoul Not with my own distros, though. I can't do that.
23:09 Kacey u have 2 isos on my usb stick
23:10 john_minetest gtg, bye.
23:10 jakssoul Use YUMI MULTIBOOT to install them.
23:10 jakssoul Bye, john_minetest.
23:10 Kacey WHO CHANGED THE LOOK ON MINETEST.NET!?!!?!
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23:10 jakssoul I'm going to cut someone if my laptop doesn't start charging in the next five minutes.
23:11 jakssoul It's been that way for a while, I think?
23:11 Zephyrus1497 is it plugged in sir?
23:11 jakssoul Zephyrus1497, yes it is. Hahaaa.
23:11 Zephyrus1497 oh well i got nothin then
23:11 jakssoul I was using this outlet last night. >_<
23:12 jakssoul BAM! Got it.
23:12 jakssoul Now I can get some work done.
23:12 Kacey brb live tiles time
23:12 Zephyrus1497 ok cool if u get on i could sho u my secret base
23:12 jakssoul Ew. Have fun.
23:12 jakssoul Give me the server info?
23:12 Kacey k it works
23:12 Zephyrus1497 vanessae.mine.bz port 30000
23:13 Kacey speedy little computer...
23:13 jakssoul Connected. Laggy, but connected.
23:14 Zephyrus1497 hmm r u jamese9?
23:14 jakssoul Si, senior.
23:14 Zephyrus1497 ok
23:14 jakssoul Nevermind, I'm at 0% media.
23:14 Zephyrus1497 ill be there in a sec
23:14 jakssoul Hang on.
23:14 jakssoul I'm getting nothing.
23:14 Kacey i dont think minetest works on windows 8...
23:14 jakssoul I don't know why it wouldn't?
23:14 jakssoul Like I said: LiveUSB some linux!
23:15 Kacey wont load
23:15 jakssoul Why not?
23:15 Kacey idk i cant see the main menu
23:15 jakssoul That didn't work. Aborted itself.
23:16 Kacey got it
23:16 jakssoul Zephyrus, it's not allowing me to connect.
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23:17 jakssoul "Unsupported Texture Format"
23:17 jakssoul There's a bunch wrong with it.
23:17 Zephyrus1497 take out ur texture pack
23:17 Zephyrus1497 i had to
23:17 jakssoul Just delete it?
23:17 Kacey just wait and it will load
23:17 jakssoul No, Kacey, it won't. It aborts itself.
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23:17 Zephyrus1497 no just move it to the desktop
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23:17 jakssoul Uggghh, fine.
23:17 Kacey ooh
23:18 jakssoul What do I remove? /minetest/textures? Or, /minetest/textures/all OR, /minetest/textures/base   ?
23:19 Zephyrus1497 did u install any texture pack whenu downloaded the game?
23:19 jakssoul Nope.
23:19 jakssoul Just whatever was default.
23:19 Zephyrus1497 then it should be fine
23:19 Kacey thinkill make my own texture pack
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23:19 kaeza Kacey: +1
23:19 jakssoul Someone needs to make a pokemon style texture pack..
23:19 Kacey do you guys see me on?
23:19 Zephyrus1497 try to logon again and tell me wat it says
23:19 Zephyrus1497 i do
23:19 jakssoul I know MineCraft has one.
23:20 Kacey is my guy blonde
23:20 Zephyrus1497 they already made a pokemon texture pack
23:20 Zephyrus1497 no hes not blonde
23:20 Kacey glasses?
23:20 Zephyrus1497 no
23:20 Kacey darn
23:20 Zephyrus1497 regular default guy
23:20 jakssoul Could not open file of texture: boat.png
23:20 jakssoul Loaded mesh: boat.x
23:20 jakssoul Could not open file of texture: cart.png
23:20 jakssoul Loaded mesh: cart.x
23:20 jakssoul Could not open file of texture: character.png
23:20 jakssoul Loaded mesh: character.x
23:20 jakssoul Could not open file of texture: ufo.png
23:20 jakssoul Could not open file of texture: ufo.png
23:20 jakssoul Loaded mesh: ufo.x
23:20 Zephyrus1497 let it load it will
23:21 Kacey going to have to give VanessaE my player texture again
23:21 jakssoul ERROR[main] ATLAS is FULL
23:21 Zephyrus1497 it says the same thing for me eveytime
23:21 Kacey thats alright
23:21 jakssoul All of that?
23:21 Zephyrus1497 i still get on
23:21 jakssoul It's not allowing me to.
23:21 Kacey says the same for me
23:22 kaeza jakssoul, Zephyrus1497: set 'enable_texture_atlas = false' in config file
23:22 Zephyrus1497 ask vanessae wats wrong but i can see u guys on here
23:22 kaeza Kacey: ^
23:22 jakssoul On it, kaeza.
23:22 Zephyrus1497 im on kaeza ive been on im trying to help them
23:22 jakssoul Nevermind, not necessary. It's working now.
23:22 Kacey uugh
23:23 Kacey hey OldCoder
23:24 OldCoder Hi
23:24 jakssoul Yup. I have 0 privaleges.
23:24 jakssoul SPELLED THAT WRONG!
23:24 Kacey im working on a new mod
23:24 Zephyrus1497 go to http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057
23:24 moltenbot Zephyrus1497's link: VanessaE's Server [0.4.4 git] (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
23:25 Zephyrus1497 jakssoul
23:25 jakssoul I don't think I care enough to.
23:25 jakssoul Sorry!
23:26 Zephyrus1497 oh
23:26 Zephyrus1497 do u kno any servers where i can get the interact priv by default?
23:26 jakssoul Make your own?
23:27 jakssoul I suppose that'd be more fun anyway.
23:27 jakssoul BRB
23:27 Zephyrus1497 cant dont have a real ip address
23:27 Zephyrus1497 supposedly
23:27 Zephyrus1497 try wazuclan.com port 30000
23:27 Kacey just play singleplayer
23:27 Kacey wazuclan.com... wow
23:27 Zephyrus1497 or minetest.org port 20007
23:28 Zephyrus1497 much better
23:28 Zephyrus1497 30007
23:28 Zephyrus1497 sorry
23:28 Kacey hey OldCoder do you have a 0.4.4 server?
23:29 OldCoder They all are now
23:29 Zephyrus1497 left #minetest
23:29 OldCoder Except Europe which will be updated Kacey
23:29 Kacey im not in europe
23:32 Kacey O.o
23:32 jakssoul Can you guys believe Minecraft has 10,000,000+ players? It costs $20!
23:32 jakssoul This amazing game costs, ya know, $0.00, it's also OPEN SOURCE.
23:32 jakssoul Why does this thing not have more momentum?
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23:35 Kacey how many gb is 500000 kb?
23:36 jakssoul I don't even think it's one?
23:36 RealBadAngel /1024 /1024
23:36 jakssoul It's about .5 GB
23:36 jakssoul So, 500MB?
23:37 jakssoul 488MB, actually.
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23:37 jakssoul May I ask why?
23:37 Kacey no reason
23:38 jakssoul Oh, of course not. You downloading 488MBs of p0rn? xD
23:38 Kacey naw i don do that
23:38 jakssoul Kidding. Kidding..
23:39 Kacey how do i burn an iso to a usb stick?
23:39 jakssoul What ISO?
23:39 Kacey windows xp
23:39 jakssoul I have an dialog window with you, just message me there.
23:41 kaeza Kacey: universal usb installer
23:42 jakssoul Already told him.
23:42 kaeza I used it to "burn" Puppy Linux to usb stick
23:42 jakssoul I recommended YUMI, but either works fine.
23:43 jakssoul I've got Lucid, Slacko, and Precise Puppy on one USB stick. As well as OpenSuse (as per some guys instructions last night) and Xubuntu.
23:44 jakssoul Something else too... oh! Slitaz.
23:45 jakssoul kaeza, question.
23:45 kaeza yes?
23:45 jakssoul Can you install Windows XP to a hard drive while using an XP Live USB?
23:45 jakssoul XP doesn't have any kind of software that will do that, does it?
23:45 kaeza hmm dunno
23:46 kaeza haven't tested it
23:46 Kacey ooh sure y donti just message kaeza lol
23:46 jakssoul Off to google!
23:46 jakssoul Then just message kaeza. He didn't know either.
23:46 jakssoul I'm just trying to help you out.
23:46 kaeza jakssoul: just for the record, it was not me who said "GIYF" :P
23:46 jakssoul You're wanting to do something most people do the opposite of: Put windows on their computer. Gross!
23:47 Kacey i have to...
23:47 jakssoul Like I said: Gross. So there isn't much documentation on it.
23:47 jakssoul I'm searching now.
23:48 Kacey well i also have the xubuntu iso...
23:48 Kacey maybe i will set up a multiboot and run xubuntu when nobody is looking
23:48 jakssoul I'd really recommend you install that. It's soooo much nicer. But I'm trying to figure something out for Windows.
23:49 jakssoul What do your Grandparents have against Linux?
23:49 Kacey idk
23:49 jakssoul http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+install+windows+from+USB
23:49 moltenbot jakssoul's link: Let me google that for you
23:49 jakssoul There ya go.
23:51 jakssoul OR!
23:51 jakssoul http://www.komku.org/2009/09/wintoflash-guide-install-windows-xp.html#.UNeY1XZMHlQ
23:51 moltenbot jakssoul's link: WinToFlash Guide - Install Windows XP from USB Flash drive
23:52 jakssoul I win! :D
23:53 Kacey lol no i win
23:54 jakssoul You're welcome, pal. :P
23:54 Kacey i didnt use your link
23:54 jakssoul >_< Then why did you ask for help..
23:54 Kacey YUMI did it for me
23:55 Kacey well bbl guys
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23:56 jakssoul Oh, well, I told you about YUMI!!!!! :D
23:56 jakssoul Imma get off and singleplayer some Minetest. I'll be back on later. See ya!

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