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00:02 latsni hi everyone, i was invited to join a minetest server (0.4.4) of someone, but there is just a 'connecting to server' screen and nothing happens .. what else do i need to connect to a server? i am new to this kind of game and i am using minetest 0.4.4
00:03 NakedFury is the server online?
00:04 kaeza latsni: what's the server IP/hostname?
00:07 latsni NakedFury: yes the server is online and running
00:08 NakedFury can you provide address and port? to test if i can connect
00:08 kaeza ...hello?
00:09 latsni kaeza: i send you a message, did you receive it?
00:10 latsni NakedFury: i send you the host and port, too
00:11 NakedFury connecting. 20% media
00:12 kaeza !up etwas.selfhost.me 30000
00:12 moltenbot Minetest server etwas.selfhost.me:30000 UP
00:12 NakedFury maybe try using a newer compiled 0.4.4 version
00:12 kaeza hmm... having network problems again here
00:13 latsni NakedFury: i compiled minetest today ..
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00:14 Penguin_ http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4199 First Map Has Screenies
00:14 moltenbot Penguin_'s link: Skyblock Created By Penguin (Page 1) - Maps - Minetest Forums
00:16 kaeza oh and latsni: welcome!
00:16 JesseH kaeza, tell me when you are playing :P
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00:16 Penguin_ http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4199 First Map Has Screenies please take a look thank
00:16 moltenbot Penguin_'s link: Skyblock Created By Penguin (Page 1) - Maps - Minetest Forums
00:16 kaeza JesseH: V's server?
00:17 JesseH idc, I just don't want to lag
00:17 kaeza Penguin_: a moment please
00:26 latsni what kind of connection is used to connect to a server, udp oder tcp?
00:30 latsni is it possible to connect to ipv6 servers?
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00:33 OldCoder latsni, UDP
00:33 OldCoder latsni, for now it is ordinary ipv4 UDP
00:35 kaeza hey Muadtralk
00:35 kaeza JesseH: gonna try entering V's server now. Care to join?
00:37 JesseH yeah Ill try
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00:38 jakssoul Well that wasn't any fun! I can't get a bunch of good looking mods to work. :./
00:38 * marktraceur waves
00:38 jakssoul I waves as well. XD
00:38 latsni OldCoder: damn upd is blocked here :/
00:38 jakssoul *Yups.
00:38 marktraceur I'm giving a talk at http://socallinuxexpo.org that will include Minetest :)
00:38 moltenbot marktraceur's link: SCALE 11x
00:38 latsni damn
00:39 jakssoul That looks exciting.
00:39 jakssoul You should pay for my.... everything... and I'll go out there and be your support group. xD
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00:40 Kacey hello
00:40 jakssoul Hola Kacey. Any luck?
00:40 Kacey had to go plan b
00:40 jakssoul Which was?
00:40 jakssoul Oh. Okay then.
00:40 OldCoder marktraceur, that sounds great. latsni perhaps there is a way to embed in TCP.
00:41 NakedFury marktraceur are they gonna post videos of that?
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00:42 latsni OldCoder: what do you mean?
00:42 Kacey lol dont close that window
00:43 Kacey using dual-boot on xubuntu and xp
00:44 Kacey is there a yumi for linux? orsomething of the sort
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00:45 jakssoul Kacey, there is not.
00:45 jakssoul It's so depressing.
00:45 jakssoul Unetbootin is there.
00:45 jakssoul But, that's for *ubuntu.
00:45 jakssoul So it should work on Xubuntu.
00:46 Kacey download? or pre-installed?
00:46 marktraceur NakedFury: Likely yes
00:46 jakssoul Download.
00:47 jakssoul Google Unetbootin. (It's not a MULTI-boot creator. Just singular.)
00:47 Kacey darn
00:48 Kacey nvm
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00:52 Kacey back
00:53 jakssoul Success?
00:53 Kacey what is the program called again?
00:53 Kacey unetbootin?
00:54 jakssoul Si!
00:55 Kacey it cannot open it
00:57 jakssoul Why not?
00:57 Kacey it was an executable
00:58 jakssoul Get it as something else, genius. OR, get WINE.
00:58 jakssoul I love WINE. :D
00:58 jakssoul Like, .apt . Or .deb.
00:58 Kacey how?
00:59 jakssoul How what? Unetbootin is available for Linux.
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01:00 jakssoul Hola, dzho.
01:00 Kacey i dont know how to download it correctly
01:00 jakssoul Da me un momento.
01:01 jakssoul http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
01:01 moltenbot jakssoul's link: UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads
01:01 jakssoul Click Tux, the penguin.
01:02 Kacey i did that and it did not work
01:02 jakssoul Hang on. Testing it.
01:02 jakssoul Oh, it's a Binary file.
01:03 jakssoul You don't know how to use them>?
01:03 jakssoul Just go to the Ubuntu Software Center.
01:03 jakssoul Should be installed on your Xubuntu installation already.
01:03 jakssoul Search Netbootin.
01:04 jakssoul It'll do the rest after you click install.
01:04 jakssoul Unetbootin*
01:05 jakssoul I just did it. Works fine for me.
01:05 * VanessaE wanders in.
01:05 Kacey hallo
01:06 jakssoul Hey you.
01:06 Kacey actually, i think ill stay on xubuntu
01:06 jakssoul Well, that's not a bad idea. It's what I recommended like, two hours ago.
01:06 Kacey lol
01:06 Kacey ill brb maybe
01:06 VanessaE jakssoul: Y U no play on my server? :-(  [:forever alone:]
01:06 Kacey nvm it worked
01:07 VanessaE just kidding.  hi all :-)
01:07 Kacey hallo
01:08 OldCoder <latsni> OldCoder: what do you mean?
01:08 Kacey how do i compile minetest on xubuntu
01:08 OldCoder latsni, I'll need to think further but there may be a way to tunnel things
01:08 jakssoul HAHAHA. Ask VanessaE.
01:08 jakssoul She helped me out last night. Took us forever. ;)
01:08 OldCoder Kacey, get Irrlicht built and I'll give you a simple script that may work
01:09 Kacey how do i build Irrlicht
01:09 OldCoder That is the point
01:09 OldCoder That part is a bit tricky
01:09 OldCoder Ask me tomorrow
01:09 OldCoder I will give you a script
01:09 OldCoder You can try to tweak it
01:09 Kacey O.o
01:09 OldCoder ?
01:09 OldCoder Why O.o ?
01:10 OldCoder I am worn out this weekend
01:10 Kacey me and tweaking do not mix very well
01:10 OldCoder I will help if I can
01:10 Kacey i am downloading the src code for minetest now
01:10 Kacey you helped me before OdlCoderr
01:10 OldCoder l
01:10 OldCoder k
01:11 Kacey omg my fingers are too big for the keyboard
01:11 * VanessaE hands Kacey a pair of styluses to type on the keyboard with
01:11 Kacey lols
01:11 latsni OldCoder: i will try a proxifer and a ssh tunnel .. i hope that will work :D
01:12 OldCoder latsni, If not...
01:12 latsni or does minetest has proxy support?
01:12 OldCoder I will consider the matter
01:12 OldCoder That is an interesting possibility
01:12 VanessaE latsni: it does not.
01:13 VanessaE and it is strictly UDP over ipv4 as far as I am aware
01:13 latsni then i need a proxifer
01:13 OldCoder I meant something interesting to add
01:14 Kacey VanessaE do you know how to compile in linux (need a little help)
01:14 VanessaE yes
01:14 VanessaE it's quite easy in Ubuntu
01:14 Kacey pm?
01:15 VanessaE sure.
01:15 Kacey k
01:17 * Kacey is REALLY tired
01:19 kaeza o hai V
01:22 VanessaE heh
01:22 VanessaE WAKE UP!!!! :-)
01:22 VanessaE hey hey kaeza
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01:39 Kacey hello?
01:48 VanessaE wb
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01:54 aldobr hi all
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01:56 aldobr2 zzzzzzzz
01:56 aldobr2 hi all
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01:59 kaeza a small question
01:59 kaeza does minetest access the same Lua state from diferent threads?
02:00 aldobr2 that was one of the things i was trying to figure out
02:00 kaeza ...hello?
02:00 aldobr2 because file io on the same file from two threads can bork the file
02:01 aldobr2 and i was trying to use file io to store sell/buy info
02:01 kaeza hmm
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02:02 VanessaE kaeza: there is only one Lua thread.
02:03 Octupus Hi
02:03 VanessaE mods don't run at the same time, they run serially.  What order?  who knows
02:03 VanessaE hey Octupus.
02:03 aldobr2 hm
02:03 aldobr2 so
02:03 kaeza VanessaE: thanks
02:03 kaeza :)
02:03 aldobr2 now i am confident that i can write to a file without problem
02:03 aldobr2 thanks
02:03 kaeza Octupus: hola!
02:03 OldCoder Octupus, Hi!
02:04 Octupus every1 seems nice tonight :)
02:04 * VanessaE tries to be nice
02:04 VanessaE but lately it's becoming...difficult.
02:04 * Kacey is falling asleep
02:04 OldCoder Octupus, Nice is good
02:04 OldCoder Calm is better when possible
02:04 Octupus VanessaE: your aloud not to be nice sometimes :P
02:04 OldCoder Heh
02:05 * VanessaE turns up the music on Kacey's radio
02:05 VanessaE Octupus: I am?  well in that case go get bent ;-)
02:05 VanessaE just kidding :-)
02:06 * Kacey doesnt have a radio
02:06 iqualfragile1 moin
02:07 VanessaE Kacey: well get one and turn it up :-)
02:07 VanessaE hi iqualfragile1
02:07 Octupus :)
02:07 Kacey naw
02:12 aldobr2 local handler = io.open(minetest.getmodpath("mint").."\data") <- is that rigt ?
02:12 aldobr2 ops
02:13 aldobr2 no its not ;)
02:13 VanessaE use a forward slash
02:13 VanessaE for starters
02:14 VanessaE backward slashes are so...DOS. :-)
02:14 aldobr2 ah
02:14 kaeza lol DOS. so oldschool
02:14 aldobr2 what will happen if the server is run on windows ?
02:14 VanessaE nothing special
02:14 aldobr2 and vice versa
02:15 VanessaE that's the path separate MT uses, unless it's been changed
02:15 VanessaE now whether you have the io.open() syntax correct, I dunno :-)
02:15 kaeza also backslashes are not portable and tend to be confused for escape sequences
02:15 VanessaE kaeza: +1
02:15 aldobr2 file = io.open (filename [, mode])
02:15 aldobr2 from lua documentation
02:15 aldobr2 but its quite confuse about how to write to the file
02:15 VanessaE seems right to me then
02:16 aldobr2 io.write (value1, ...)
02:16 aldobr2 how lua can know the handler to write to ?!?
02:16 VanessaE good question
02:16 VanessaE handler = io.write()  ?
02:16 kaeza aldobr2: it's prolly better to use string.format if you want to have full control
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02:17 aldobr2 i plan to write quite a simple string
02:18 * Kacey is downloading WINE
02:18 aldobr2 "item", "count" <eol>
02:18 VanessaE maybe it always writes to the last opened handle?
02:18 aldobr2 and so on
02:18 kaeza aldobr2: also, don't use io.write() it's evil
02:18 kaeza aldobr2: use the f:write(...) syntax
02:18 aldobr2 ah
02:18 VanessaE the way I read this piece of code (from node_ownership), it writes to the last handle that was opened.
02:18 aldobr2 the handler is not an integer like in C :P
02:18 aldobr2 its an object
02:18 kaeza aldobr2: local f = io.open("filename.txt", "w"); f:write("Hello!"); f:close();
02:19 VanessaE OH!
02:19 VanessaE hah, no one ever said I knew what I was doing with the more serious functions like that :D
02:20 * Kacey likes xubuntu because of the two desktops
02:20 aldobr2 i was thinking the handler was an integer file handle like fopen call
02:20 aldobr2 now its solved
02:20 kaeza aldobr2: better yet: local f,e  = io.open("filename.txt", "w"); if (not f) then error(e); end
02:21 aldobr2 its finished
02:21 aldobr2 hm
02:21 aldobr2 io.open returns a tupple
02:21 aldobr2 hm
02:21 kaeza Kacey: my puppy linux had 8 desktops ^_^
02:22 Kacey O.o
02:23 kaeza aldobr2: the "if (not f)" is to check whether the file was opened successfully
02:23 aldobr2 yeh
02:23 aldobr2 i got that
02:23 aldobr2 http://pastebin.com/ueiAw4JB
02:23 moltenbot aldobr2's link: [Lua] asm.registersell = function(item, value)  -- register an item sold by an machin - Pastebin.com
02:23 aldobr2 is that too much inneficient ?
02:24 aldobr2 (open, write, close everytime the machine works)
02:24 kaeza you may change "error(e)" to do whatever you want if you don't want an error
02:24 aldobr2 i plan to write a small script to transform the comma separated values into a svg graph
02:24 aldobr2 to be used in a web page
02:25 aldobr2 showing the medium sell/buy price of items
02:25 aldobr2 that way people can modify their prices to follow the market trends :P
02:25 aldobr2 minetest stock exchange anyone ?
02:26 VanessaE medium sell price?  you mean median I assume?
02:26 aldobr2 yes
02:26 kaeza aldobr2: not "handler.write" "handler.write"
02:26 aldobr2 medium is someone who works with spirits :P
02:26 kaeza whoops
02:26 kaeza "handler:write"
02:26 kaeza note the colon
02:27 aldobr2 does the engine really care of : instead of . ?
02:28 kaeza yes
02:29 aldobr2 hm
02:29 kaeza obj:func(arg) is translated to obj.func(obj, arg)
02:29 aldobr2 will the write function write the line ending for me ?
02:29 kaeza nope
02:29 kaeza you need to add it
02:29 kaeza "\n"
02:29 aldobr2 will \n cover the windows and unix different line endings ?
02:30 kaeza lua does not care about that it always use "\n"
02:30 aldobr2 ok
02:30 aldobr2 thanks
02:30 aldobr2 now i think its finished
02:30 aldobr2 but without the telephone booths cause i cant cancel chat messages
02:32 aldobr2 ah
02:32 aldobr2 another thing
02:32 aldobr2 my recipes are colliding with mesecons
02:32 kaeza oh noes!
02:33 aldobr2 added steel to the recipe
02:33 aldobr2 now i need to detect new mese vs old mese
02:33 VanessaE I tried to warn you :-)
02:34 VanessaE personally I'd prefer if you depended on moreores and used copper, silver, and gold as your base metals for multiple denominations of coinage.
02:34 VanessaE using mese for the value
02:34 VanessaE sorta like star trek's 'gold-pressed latinum' currency
02:34 aldobr2 i was thinking about changing from mese to gold
02:35 VanessaE use both.
02:35 aldobr2 i dont want to deal with a bi or tri metal monetary system
02:35 aldobr2 cause that can be tricky
02:35 VanessaE ok, gold + mese then
02:36 aldobr2 its still bimetallic
02:36 VanessaE one mese crystal + one gold ingot = 9 Minetoon Pence or whatever you called them
02:36 aldobr2 gold value can change independent of mese value
02:37 aldobr2 hm
02:37 aldobr2 i will change to gold but that will make the mod depend on moreores completely
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02:37 VanessaE that's fine I would think - most servers have moreores and if they don't, they're crazy :-)
02:38 aldobr2 the lowest valued coin must have less value than most other things
02:38 aldobr2 else some things will stay at barter stage
02:39 VanessaE right
02:39 VanessaE so in that case make one crystal + one ingot = 18 Pence.
02:39 VanessaE that should give you a similar value as before, plus 18 is a good number.
02:40 VanessaE crystal fragments would work as the base unit of currency if you could come up with a reasonable way to split an ingot into 9 pieces
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02:47 NakedFury finished placing columns: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/e8qtkm_ui
02:47 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Screenshot Uploader
02:49 VanessaE NakedFury: wow
02:49 VanessaE of course, you cheated :)
02:49 NakedFury yep
02:49 VanessaE looks nice though
02:50 NakedFury it would take me far too long without creative help
02:50 NakedFury without flying or giveme
02:50 VanessaE I meant worldedit :)
02:50 NakedFury //save column1 then //load column1 on positions
02:51 NakedFury then //copy x -10 to -140
02:51 NakedFury 14 columns total to do the copy x
02:52 NakedFury with 5 spaces between them
02:53 kizeren Wow....
02:53 VanessaE impressive
02:53 kizeren NakedFury: that looks good.
02:54 NakedFury I am selling torches: http://screenshotuploader.com/s/01/6bgwuyowk
02:54 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Screenshot Uploader
02:55 NakedFury in that picture 9004 torches were removed
02:55 kizeren hehehe
02:55 kizeren I seen that when I was down there last.  I thought about stealing some but.....
02:56 NakedFury I hope now it can load this area faster without that many
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02:57 NakedFury bug: pressing shift[for sneaking] and e for speed causes the character to run fast and jump continuosly
02:57 VanessaE NakedFury: holy shit
02:58 NakedFury bu that bug wont happen if you start by pressing e then shift
02:58 VanessaE (the torches)
02:59 NakedFury yes there was a wall that I deleted then stack x -## with that many torches
02:59 NakedFury good lightning but slow area load
02:59 VanessaE you should use my homedecor glow cubes.  the yellow ones might fit that theme and they're brighter than torches :-)
03:00 NakedFury how can you make them brighter?
03:00 VanessaE they're at LIGHT_MAX-1 or so, torches are like -3 or -4 or something
03:00 NakedFury would 0 work?
03:00 VanessaE just LIGHT_MAX ?  sure
03:01 NakedFury would that be almost like the games sun?
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03:02 VanessaE it would. :-0
03:02 VanessaE :-)
03:02 Kacey imback yall
03:02 aldobr2 its there any way to get the current real world datetime in lua ?
03:03 NakedFury I will need that, want a light block that covers hundreds of places. would actually prefer it to be in sync with the games day/night cycle
03:06 aldobr2 os.time() returns timestamp
03:06 aldobr2 ok, nm, found it
03:06 Kacey has anyone ever used SARDU?
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03:10 aldobr anybody here with unix shell scripting skills ?
03:14 kizeren What ya needing aldobr?
03:15 aldobr take a csv file
03:15 aldobr and convert it to a svg graph :D
03:15 aldobr quite a lot of work
03:15 aldobr i dont even know how to start
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03:17 kizeren Um...yea over me.  i would use openoffice/libreoffice for it...but doesn't help in the cli I suppose.
03:18 kaeza aldobr: I
03:18 kaeza what do you mean?
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03:20 aldobr2 i've found something
03:20 aldobr2 http://svgkit.sourceforge.net/SVGPlot.html
03:20 moltenbot aldobr2's link: SVGPlot
03:20 aldobr2 that thing can take csv directly
03:20 aldobr2 without need of shell scripts
03:20 kaeza aldobr: not a lot of work if you code it in lua
03:21 aldobr2 im afraid lua will not scale well when the file reaches 1gb like sizes
03:27 kaeza ping request? srsly?
03:28 aldobr2 :P
03:28 aldobr2 i was afraid i was discoing again
03:29 aldobr2 well
03:29 kaeza J/K
03:29 aldobr2 my mod generates a csv file containing timestamp, itemname, price
03:29 kaeza that seems like a feasible option
03:29 aldobr2 one per line
03:29 aldobr2 if someone get interested
03:30 aldobr2 they can use that file to make a web graph of the prices per day/month/year
03:30 aldobr2 whatever
03:30 kaeza svgplot I mean
03:30 kizeren is there a way to compile only minetestserver and not the client?
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03:33 jakssoul Murder is usually frowned upon, right?
03:34 kaeza jakssoul: lolwut
03:34 kaeza kizeren: I believe there is
03:34 jakssoul Dangit.
03:34 jakssoul Fine.
03:35 aldobr2 kaeza how can i replace : to - in a string ?
03:36 kaeza hmm
03:36 kaeza string.gsub
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03:36 aldobr2 thanks
03:36 kaeza hi Zephyrus1497
03:36 Zephyrus1497 can someone help me with making the nether mod work plz?
03:37 kaeza kizeren: Zephyrus1497 wanted interact in your server
03:37 kizeren Already granted.
03:38 Zephyrus1497 it says somethin about the lua file thing
03:38 Zephyrus1497 i cant get it to work i dont kno what i did wrong
03:39 aldobr2 Zephyrus1497 paste it to pastebin
03:39 Zephyrus1497 wat?
03:39 aldobr2 then say the error message you get
03:40 Zephyrus1497 ok
03:40 aldobr2 i believe i finished my mod now
03:40 aldobr2 it will save data to a _sell.txt and _buy.txt per item name
03:41 aldobr2 so the file only contains timestamp, price
03:41 aldobr2 should be easy to make a graph out of it
03:41 aldobr2 <item>_sell.txt holds each sell per <item>
03:42 aldobr2 and <item>_buy.txt holds each buy per <item>
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03:47 kaeza fck
03:47 kaeza and back
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03:51 Zephyrus1497 iok wat do i do after a paste it to pastebin aldobr2?
03:52 kaeza Zephyrus1497: paste to pastebin, and post the URL on the address bar here
03:52 Zephyrus1497 ok
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03:52 Zephyrus1497 http://pastebin.com/NDy86xfZ
03:52 moltenbot Zephyrus1497's link: How do i make the nether mod work in minetest? - Pastebin.com
03:53 jakssoul YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WORK!
03:53 Zephyrus1497 Why?
03:53 jakssoul I dunno.
03:53 jakssoul Just kiddin'.
03:53 Zephyrus1497 Wow
03:53 Zephyrus1497 ur a real joker arent u?
03:53 jakssoul Sorry.
03:53 Zephyrus1497 its fine
03:53 jakssoul I didn't think you'd take me seriously.
03:54 Zephyrus1497 u dont need to be sorry about anything
03:54 Zephyrus1497 ur just tryin to have a laugh
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03:56 aldobr2 im getting sleepy
03:59 aldobr2 zzzzzzzz
04:02 Zephyrus1497 goodnight
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04:07 Zephyrus1497 http://pastebin.com/NDy86xfZ
04:07 moltenbot Zephyrus1497's link: How do i make the nether mod work in minetest? - Pastebin.com
04:08 Zephyrus1497 oh crap thought i copied somthin else sorry
04:10 Zephyrus1497 umm how do i view answer to my question on pastebin?
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04:11 Zephyrus1497 anyone?
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04:43 VanessaE zzz
04:45 * kaeza pokles VanessaE
04:45 kaeza pokes*
04:46 VanessaE ow.
04:46 kaeza VanessaE: just for your entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_PGUa69aE
04:46 moltenbot kaeza's link: Tour de Japon - 09 FF VII Main Theme (Final Fantasy VII) - YouTube
04:47 VanessaE got other music playing right now :-)
04:47 kaeza ok ;)
04:47 VanessaE "La Mer" (original French version of what became "Beyond the Sea" by Bobby Darin)
04:47 * kaeza imagines VanessaE listening to heavy metal
04:48 VanessaE kaeza: "Christmas Eve in Sarajevo".  CRANK THE SHIT OUT OF IT.
04:49 kaeza heh
04:49 VanessaE seriously, go find it on youtube :-)
04:49 kaeza I'm not really into heavy metal.
04:49 kaeza I like punk rock
04:49 VanessaE you'll like this one actually :-)
04:49 VanessaE and I usually listen to oldies.
04:49 * kaeza misses the 80's
04:50 VanessaE np, "Ain't Got No Home" (Frogman Henry).  Next up, "Topsy, Part II" (Cozy Cole)
04:50 * VanessaE has....eclectic tastes :-)
04:51 * kaeza likes Steppenwolf, Kiss, Ozzy Osbourne
04:54 VanessaE so!
04:54 kaeza VanessaE: you should listen to NTVG
04:54 VanessaE since Dec. 21 came and went without so much as a hint of Armageddon...  what's next? :-)
04:55 VanessaE *looks at Wikipedia's list of apocalyptic events*
04:55 VanessaE so, Jesus is supposed to return..1
04:55 VanessaE 2...3..
04:55 VanessaE 4...
04:55 kaeza lol
04:55 kaeza I'm still waiting the end. Bummer
04:55 VanessaE looks like 4 times in the next 270 years.  lol
04:56 VanessaE so now we all wait for May 19 when...nothing will happen! :-)
04:57 VanessaE what's NTVG?
04:57 kaeza and not a sincle fck will be given that day
04:57 kaeza An Uruguayan Rock Band
04:57 VanessaE never heard of 'em
04:59 kaeza meh, too lazy now to share a link
05:00 VanessaE oh total groaner.  abe shows me a picture of Aretha Franklin (the singer), where her face has been copy&pasted to form a circle, with a bow in one spot.  Caption?  "A wreath of Franklins".
05:00 kaeza lol
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05:47 Trezker ooh, apparently there should only be one more pope! I hope this one is true
05:47 VanessaE lol
05:48 kaeza lolwut
05:50 Trezker after the current pope dies, we should get a new pope named Peter of Rome
05:51 kaeza meh
05:57 VanessaE you just know the church will make sure that happens, just because they can.
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06:22 kaeza boooored
06:23 Exio fff
06:24 Exio kaeza: no te va gustar? :P
06:25 kaeza yup
06:25 kaeza :P
06:25 kaeza It's good to see someone from these parts
06:26 Exio same :P
06:26 * kaeza feels lonely and needs a hug
06:26 kaeza J/K
06:26 kaeza do it and I kill u
06:27 kaeza k?
06:27 kaeza :P
06:27 VanessaE awww
06:27 VanessaE *yawns*
06:28 kaeza sleepy already?
06:28 VanessaE it's 01:28..so yeah :-)
06:29 Exio 3:30 here
06:30 kaeza 4:30 here
06:30 VanessaE looking at the map of my server, I'm surprised no one's built a nyan cat somewhere yet.
06:30 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/my_world_map.png
06:30 * kaeza looks for his music box
06:31 kaeza wow didn't know there were so many buildings far from spawn
06:31 VanessaE I need to get a better colors.txt made up at some point.
06:32 VanessaE there's a fair amount of stuff that's being left out for lack of entries therein
06:32 kaeza I see some Photoshopped (read worldedited) parts in there ^_^
06:33 VanessaE yup, I imported my mansion from my old single player map, and helped KikaRz clear some space for his stuff
06:34 kaeza cheater
06:34 kaeza :P
06:34 VanessaE yup :-)
06:34 kaeza where's Dolan's city?
06:35 VanessaE not sure
06:35 kaeza seemed pretty big from in-game
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06:35 VanessaE maybe that's that big rectangle northeast of my mansion
06:35 Zephyrus429 hi everyone its me Zephyrus1497 it wont let me login on my nickname
06:36 Zephyrus429 and yes thats it
06:36 Zephyrus429 it blocks out the sunlight htere
06:36 Zephyrus429 cant miss it
06:36 VanessaE yeah don't I know that!
06:37 VanessaE need to install a few dozen streetlights :-)
06:37 kaeza nickcageyoudontsay.jpg
06:37 Zephyrus429 wat does that mean kaeza?
06:37 kaeza -.-
06:37 kaeza nvm
06:40 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mt/make.log
06:40 kaeza checking..
06:40 Exio any ideas?
06:41 kaeza lolwut
06:41 Exio ?
06:42 OldCoder NEWS: U.S. Worlds going down for a bit
06:42 Exio make clean and cmake .. a lot of times, with gcc the error is the same with less info
06:42 Exio but with *
06:42 kaeza why doesn't gcc recognize the types?
06:42 kaeza hmm
06:45 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mt/make.gcc.log
06:46 Exio grr, i'm asleep i will check it later
06:46 Exio bye
06:50 Zephyrus1497 oh wow finally was able to claim my Nick again
06:51 Zephyrus1497 anybody on any servers?
06:51 VanessaE nope
06:51 VanessaE all servers in existence are idle and unoccupied :-)
06:52 Zephyrus1497 is that sarcasm?
06:52 VanessaE yep :-)
06:52 VanessaE and with that, I think I'm gonna go to bed.  Night ;-)
06:52 VanessaE :-)
06:52 Zephyrus1497 night
06:53 Zephyrus1497 wat was that server..... mcbride.?????.????
06:53 Zephyrus1497 cant htink of it
06:56 Zephyrus1497 got it
06:57 kaeza Zephyrus1497: mcbride.homelinux.net
06:57 Zephyrus1497 tthanks
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08:24 Jordach hey #minetest
08:24 Zephyrus1497 hi
08:25 Jordach and slow as a snail after turning it on
08:25 Jordach (my pc)
08:27 Zephyrus1497 can someone make an enchanting table mod plz?
08:30 kaeza hi Jordach
08:30 thexyz what do you want to enchant?
08:31 Jordach hello
08:32 Zephyrus1497 things like tools and like if able blocks to make them harder for other people to steal
08:32 Zephyrus1497 im thinking of an xp mod too i just dont kno how to make a mod
08:33 kaeza Zephyrus1497: there's already an XP mod
08:33 Zephyrus1497 there is?
08:33 kaeza yup
08:33 Zephyrus1497 i did not kno that thanks
08:33 kaeza it's called specialties
08:34 Zephyrus1497 oh thats the page im on
08:35 Zephyrus1497 can someone explain to me how to make mods work?
08:35 Zephyrus1497 cause every time i get a new mod there is always an error
08:35 OldCoder Explain
08:36 kaeza not now I guess... out to bed.
08:36 OldCoder kaeza, ?
08:36 OldCoder kaeza, speaking to Zephyrus1497. Sleep well.
08:36 * OldCoder is confused too
08:36 OldCoder Oh, I see
08:36 OldCoder nvm
08:36 Zephyrus1497 like with the inventory plus mod it says its missing a component or something like that
08:36 kaeza np OC
08:36 kaeza ;)
08:36 kaeza good night/morning channel!
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08:40 Jordach hey sfan5
08:40 sfan5 hi
08:40 Zeg9 Hi
08:41 Jordach my music visualiser crashed my player again :(
08:42 Zephyrus1497 so anyone kno any good mods?
08:42 Zephyrus1497 that r exciting?
08:43 OldCoder Exciting
08:43 OldCoder ?
08:43 Zephyrus1497 popular i mean
08:43 OldCoder I prefer ones that work
08:43 OldCoder You will find my modsets listed at http://minetest.org/
08:43 moltenbot OldCoder's link: OldCoder Minetest Site
08:44 OldCoder The site is a bit disorganized but I will finish it
08:46 Zephyrus1497 Youve heard of the Annunaki?
08:46 OldCoder Of course
08:46 Zephyrus1497 Ive read nearly all the ancient text tranlations
08:46 OldCoder All right
08:46 OldCoder Have you written any essays?
08:47 Zephyrus1497 no im in high school im gonna be writing one when i go back though i have to write about an ancient civilization
08:47 OldCoder All right
08:55 Zephyrus1497 Hey oldcoder can i have the interact priv for the Anunaki Land server?
08:55 OldCoder Of course
08:55 OldCoder Have you joined there yet?
08:55 OldCoder It is in Europe
08:55 OldCoder europe.minetest.org port 30000
08:55 OldCoder Let me know when you are on
08:55 Zephyrus1497 ive joined the server
08:56 OldCoder k
08:56 OldCoder wait
08:56 Zephyrus1497 ok
08:56 OldCoder Zephyrus1497, I may shut it down for 5 minutes in a hour to back up
08:57 Zephyrus1497 ok
09:19 Zeg9 Yeah, got sqlite compilated :)
09:19 Zeg9 (on wii)
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09:23 john_minetest Hello.
09:23 Zephyrus1497 hi
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09:28 markveidemanis greetings
09:28 markveidemanis christmas is coming
09:28 Zeg9 Hi, mark.
09:32 Zephyrus1497 bye everyone
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09:46 OldCoder Zeg9, PM
09:51 Zephyrus1497 joined #minetest
09:51 Zephyrus1497 i cant fall asleep
09:54 Zephyrus1497 Hey OldCoder do u have any worlds that r creative with the creative menu besides the ine with port 30007?
09:54 Zephyrus1497 one
09:59 Jordach john_minetest, are you jmf on the forums?
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10:00 Jordach (actually, yes, noticed you forum sig)
10:02 Jordach !g homdecor minetest
10:02 Minetest-tan Jordach: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2012-10-06
10:03 Jordach Minetest-tan, you help :P
10:06 Zephyrus1497 Zeg can i have privs on the 30015 server plz?
10:06 Zeg9 Yeah, coming
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10:06 Zephyrus1497 ok
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10:17 jeffrash how long will minetest.org 30015 be down?
10:18 markveidemanis yeah!
10:18 markveidemanis dammit zeg :P
10:18 Zeg9 I don't know
10:19 Jordach can't blame a frenchman for everything
10:20 Zephyrus1497 its not his fault
10:20 markveidemanis Right :D
10:21 Zeg9 We're installing 3
10:21 Zephyrus1497 cant blame him he was on the server
10:21 Zeg9 3D players
10:21 Zeg9 What you all have been requesting a lot
10:22 Zephyrus1497 so i can post an avatar i want on the forums?
10:22 Zephyrus1497 im connecting right now
10:22 Zephyrus1497 wat bout u guys?
10:23 OldCoder Hi
10:23 OldCoder jeffrash, I few minutes
10:23 markveidemanis wat no ufos???
10:23 OldCoder jeffrash, we are adding avatars
10:23 jeffrash ok, cool
10:23 markveidemanis ADD building_blocks
10:23 markveidemanis il send u it
10:23 markveidemanis ...later
10:23 markveidemanis ...
10:23 markveidemanis
10:24 jeffrash OldCoder, ok, thanks.
10:24 markveidemanis it really spams the console...
10:24 jeffrash I can't sleep either
10:24 markveidemanis skins:<hhh> loaded!
10:24 OldCoder wait
10:24 markveidemanis skins<aaa> loaded!
10:24 markveidemanis and so on
10:25 OldCoder Hmm
10:25 Zephyrus1497 uh oh somethins wrong im guessing?
10:26 markveidemanis why is server down...
10:26 OldCoder markveidemanis, Adding 3D
10:26 OldCoder 3D skins
10:26 markveidemanis not that long
10:26 markveidemanis ...
10:27 john_minetest Jordach: yes, I am jmf on the forum.
10:27 OldCoder Don't distract me
10:27 markveidemanis o.k.
10:27 Zeg9 markveidemanis, I removed those debug a long time ago
10:27 markveidemanis debug?
10:27 markveidemanis ?
10:27 Zephyrus1497 am i able to ask u OldCoder for thefast or fly priv on the 30015 server?
10:27 Zeg9 They were debug informations
10:27 markveidemanis ok
10:28 Zeg9 Zephyrus, I already granted you fast
10:28 markveidemanis Zeg, so can i have the "give" back?
10:28 Zephyrus1497 oh u did?
10:28 markveidemanis / on what conditions
10:28 Zephyrus1497 oh i feel stuid
10:28 Zeg9 mark, I prefer not giving those privileges
10:28 * Zephyrus1497 palm to face
10:28 markveidemanis Y
10:29 Zeg9 There are some nodes that shouldn't be given
10:29 markveidemanis what privs can u give
10:29 Zeg9 with /give you can crash the server
10:29 markveidemanis like mese
10:29 markveidemanis how
10:29 jeffrash about skins, what I'm reading says they on only client side
10:29 Zeg9 They are server side.
10:29 jeffrash How do I change?
10:29 markveidemanis no, they work just like you expect:)
10:30 jeffrash How do I see?
10:30 markveidemanis its pretty obvious
10:30 Zeg9 In the inventory
10:30 markveidemanis yiu cant
10:30 john_minetest markveidemanis: I said this some times now: on zegaton everybody should be equal. so no special privs for some people.
10:30 markveidemanis hello
10:30 markveidemanis but some people have fly
10:30 markveidemanis and some people had worldedit
10:31 Zeg9 nobody has worldedit
10:31 Zeg9 I gave him to save his castle.
10:31 Zeg9 Then I revoked
10:32 markveidemanis but you offered for him to keep it
10:32 jeffrash right, and next time I will message you to do it
10:32 jeffrash no
10:33 jeffrash If he did I would have said no anyway
10:33 markveidemanis how do i type in bold?
10:34 markveidemanis 83% media....Zeg, what did you add???
10:34 Zeg9 Skins.
10:34 markveidemanis Zzz
10:34 markveidemanis ZZz
10:34 Zeg9 They are downloading again
10:34 markveidemanis ohk
10:34 markveidemanis k
10:34 markveidemanis i AM in
10:35 markveidemanis ZEG COBBLE HAS NO TEXTURE!
10:35 markveidemanis In inventory
10:35 jeffrash going in now
10:35 jeffrash in
10:35 Zeg9 Disable texture atlas
10:40 Zeg9 News: hosting a minetest server on a wii is POSSIBLE!
10:42 Jordach Zeg9, open ye ports
10:42 Zeg9 Ok
10:42 jeffrash skins look good
10:42 jeffrash I picked the older looking guy as I am one
10:44 markveidemanis haha
10:44 markveidemanis zeg, can you add honeydew and xephos
10:44 Zeg9 ?
10:44 john_minetest markveidemanis: hey, what buildings do you have got on zegaton?
10:45 jeffrash did the server shutdown again?
10:45 john_minetest i can connect
10:46 markveidemanis i small house/shack
10:46 markveidemanis REALLY SMALL
10:46 markveidemanis thats it
10:47 markveidemanis i just go mining
10:47 markveidemanis i got more diamonds than mithril:)
10:47 markveidemanis want any?
10:47 markveidemanis idk what they are used for
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10:49 Zephyrus1497 lots of problems with that one server
10:49 markveidemanis why did you screw up the textures?
10:49 OldCoder markveidemanis, Are you talking to me?
10:49 markveidemanis they look awful
10:50 markveidemanis whoever did iy
10:50 OldCoder markveidemanis, Be polite
10:50 markveidemanis #t
10:50 OldCoder Good Grief
10:50 Zephyrus1497 i like them
10:50 OldCoder D:
10:50 markveidemanis sorry, it really lags
10:50 OldCoder markveidemanis, Look at your wording
10:50 OldCoder <markveidemanis> why did you screw up the textures?
10:50 OldCoder For Pete's Sake
10:50 markveidemanis whoops
10:50 markveidemanis haha
10:50 jeffrash :)
10:50 Zephyrus1497 i like the textures OldCoder
10:50 OldCoder Zephyrus1497, some work is required
10:50 OldCoder I need the help of some of the devs
10:51 markveidemanis but if someone wanted textures like that, they install on client, not server
10:51 OldCoder There were 205 glitches
10:51 Zephyrus1497 Makes it look more mideval
10:51 OldCoder markveidemanis, your opinion is noted
10:51 OldCoder NEWS
10:51 markveidemanis good
10:51 OldCoder 2D and 3D are now both supported
10:51 markveidemanis YAY
10:51 OldCoder See Zeg9 for instructions
10:51 markveidemanis now i can be the green man
10:51 OldCoder Yes
10:51 OldCoder Oh BoY!
10:51 OldCoder Green Guy!
10:51 OldCoder :P
10:51 markveidemanis YAYYAYAYYAYAYYA
10:52 OldCoder Other changes coming this week
10:52 markveidemanis if you say its spamming... i have 1 line, and i will use 1 line
10:52 OldCoder Go try 2D and 3D though
10:52 markveidemanis YAYAYYAYAYA
10:52 OldCoder markveidemanis, FIne
10:52 markveidemanis OKay
10:52 markveidemanis is server still on a wii?
10:52 markveidemanis :D
10:52 OldCoder Regarding textures... we changed something to speed up Ambience. This triggered an old textures bug.
10:52 OldCoder That is all for tonight.
10:53 markveidemanis no, not all for tonight...
10:53 markveidemanis why dont we all get giveme and build a big christmas themed thing
10:53 markveidemanis yay or ney?
10:54 Jordach markveidemanis, im sure you dont know what griefing is
10:54 markveidemanis I DO
10:55 markveidemanis OldCoder
10:55 markveidemanis please send me the default textures for all of the mods
10:56 jeffrash sokomine, we are keeping this texture?
10:56 jeffrash so we are keeping this texture?
10:56 markveidemanis NOOOO
10:57 markveidemanis NEVER
11:02 jeffrash OldCoder, are we keeping this texture pack?  did I miss something?
11:05 Zephyrus1497 why does the server keep shutting down?
11:05 markveidemanis WTF
11:10 OldCoder Zephyrus1497, markveidemanis, jeffrash Patience is a virtue! All of this was to add 3D. If you are unhappy we can certainly remove the feature!
11:10 OldCoder :P
11:11 Zephyrus1497 ok im done fussing about that
11:11 markveidemanis i dont care too much for 3D
11:11 markveidemanis :D]
11:11 Zeg9 markveidemanis then we'll remove 3d foryou
11:11 markveidemanis NOOOOOOO
11:11 OldCoder markveidemanis, You can keep 2D and thank Zeg9 politely. He has done a nice mod.
11:11 Zephyrus1497 iwas wondering wat happened to the texture pack
11:11 OldCoder Zephyrus1497, Bug related to upgrade. Zeg9 says it is O.K. now.
11:11 markveidemanis i love the green guy, though
11:12 Zephyrus1497 o
11:12 OldCoder markveidemanis, Then you can be him
11:12 markveidemanis p
11:12 markveidemanis i just changed my ipo
11:12 markveidemanis #ip
11:12 OldCoder markveidemanis, Be polite and thank Zeg9. He has done a marvelous mod.
11:12 markveidemanis but i diddnt disconnect
11:12 OldCoder How nice
11:12 * OldCoder shrugs
11:12 * OldCoder is sleepy
11:12 * OldCoder notes it is 3:11am but here he is debugging
11:14 * markveidemanis thank you Zeg9, you have done a marvelous mod
11:14 Zeg9 No problem.
11:16 markveidemanis OldCoder, so you were just going to sleep in my morning? (GMT)
11:16 OldCoder markveidemanis, Soon
11:17 OldCoder Sleep is a bit messed up for me
11:17 markveidemanis just checking
11:17 markveidemanis :))
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11:17 markveidemanis still in the pacific?
11:19 john_minetest No, he is at atlantic now but uses pacific time ;)
11:20 jeffrash OldCoder, ok.  Sorry, I was just wondering
11:20 jeffrash OldCoder, thanks for all you do, really.
11:20 OldCoder Hi
11:20 OldCoder Have fun
11:20 OldCoder There will be more tweaks to this world... expect glitches. But it is moving towards stability.
11:24 jeffrash Zeg9, so you made the skin mod?
11:24 OldCoder Yes
11:24 jeffrash cool, good work Zeg9.  I like it
11:25 Zeg9 Thanks
11:28 Zeg9 Sadly I can't forward ports to my wii atm...
11:28 Zeg9 Is it possible to forward wii ports to my computer, then from my computer to the router?
11:28 Zeg9 => use computer as a router
11:28 markveidemanis Zeg9, why do i need home priv to do /home
11:28 Zeg9 Forget this. I'll explain more clearly
11:28 Zeg9 Is it possible to redirect ports from my computer to another computer?
11:30 Zephyrus1497 can i have some help with installing a texture pack plz?
11:30 Zeg9 Zephyrus, yeah
11:30 Zephyrus1497 thanks
11:31 Zeg9 Just put all the .png's in textures/all
11:31 Zephyrus1497 ok
11:31 Zephyrus1497 thats wat i was doing wrong i was putting the whole folder
11:32 Zephyrus1497 thanks Zeg
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11:32 Zeg9 ok
11:32 davidpace hi all.
11:36 john_minetest hi
11:37 Zephyrus1497 so Zeg just the images?
11:37 Zeg9 Only the images
11:37 Zephyrus1497 ok
11:37 Zephyrus1497 i might wanna close minetest first shouldnt i?
11:39 Zephyrus1497 ok added only the images now wat open minetest?
11:40 Zephyrus1497 ifonly texture packs could work on other servers
11:41 Zeg9 Zephyrus, just restart minetest
11:41 Zeg9 it should be on all servers after that.
11:41 Zephyrus1497 i did
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11:48 markveidemanis laggs so much that i can swim in lava]
11:49 markveidemanis hello, all
11:50 markveidemanis i will put my server up and build something christmassy, anyone want to join?
11:52 OldCoder markveidemanis, regarding the CTCP ping you know what my time zone is
11:52 OldCoder
11:53 * OldCoder is sleeping
11:53 OldCoder Good night
11:53 markveidemanis
11:53 markveidemanis merry christmas
11:54 markveidemanis christmas type mod links?
11:54 OldCoder Most of my worlds have Jordach's new xmas mod
11:54 OldCoder Zzz
11:59 markveidemanis linnkkkk
12:00 markveidemanis Zzz
12:00 markveidemanis ZZz
12:00 markveidemanis OldCoder...Zzz
12:08 markveidemanis Zeg9
12:08 markveidemanis can i be granted fly,...again
12:09 john_minetest NO!!!!
12:09 john_minetest you have got enough privs.
12:10 john_minetest seems you didn't read the rules.
12:10 markveidemanis waT?
12:10 markveidemanis WTF
12:10 john_minetest Don't ask for privilegues.
12:10 davidpace chiiiilll guys!
12:10 john_minetest Rule nuber 7
12:10 john_minetest http://minetest.web1337.net/html/rules.php
12:10 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Zeg9's Minetest Server - Rules
12:13 Zephyrus1497 Zeg for some reason the texture pack isnt even working on my worlds
12:13 markveidemanis yes you spelled a word wrong, so what!?
12:14 jeffrash server going down again?
12:14 markveidemanis i have the roght to ask if i was not informed when it was revoked
12:14 markveidemanis #right
12:21 markveidemanis FUCK THIS. IM GONNA PLAY MINECRAFT!
12:21 Zephyrus1497 have fun
12:21 markveidemanis thanks
12:21 Zephyrus1497 np
12:22 markveidemanis wanna come?
12:22 markveidemanis http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/600254-surv-skyblock/
12:23 Zephyrus1497 my minecraft account got hacked
12:23 Zephyrus1497 i cant get on anymore
12:24 markveidemanis would make no difference to me, i have CRACKED MINECRAFT
12:24 Zephyrus1497 how?
12:24 markveidemanis ...
12:24 Zephyrus1497 wats the website u got it from?
12:24 Zephyrus1497 if u wont ell me in public chat pm me
12:24 markveidemanis getting link...
12:24 Zephyrus1497 oh
12:24 markveidemanis k
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12:36 aldobr hi all
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12:43 john_minetest hi aldobr
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13:07 davidpace Who can teach me lua from the ground up? I know nothing concerning coding.
13:07 davidpace I hear its really simple
13:14 john_minetest maybe try this: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial
13:14 moltenbot john_minetest's link: lua-users wiki: Lua Tutorial
13:14 john_minetest I didn't read it but it might be useful
13:15 john_minetest also you should look at the lua api for minetest: http://api.minetest.net
13:15 moltenbot john_minetest's link: Minetest API
13:15 davidpace thanks
13:22 markveidemanis minetest.org:30015 is looking very empty
13:23 john_minetest may be.
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13:27 aldobr hi all
13:27 Zeg9 Hello
13:30 markveidemanis https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-glow <== YAY
13:30 Zeg9 This is the lanterns used on zegaton
13:31 markveidemanis can you upload a modpack of all of the mods on zegathon?
13:31 markveidemanis ALL OF THEM
13:31 Zeg9 Yeah, oldcoder did that this morning.
13:31 Zeg9 http://minetest.org/zegaton.zip
13:31 Zeg9 I think
13:31 Zeg9 Nop
13:31 Zeg9 Wait, I'll see
13:32 Zeg9 http://minetest.org/zegaton_game.zip
13:32 Zeg9 Anyone wants to try a wii server?
13:33 markveidemanis i will
13:33 Zeg9 ok. Wait, I'll forward ports
13:34 markveidemanis is this a test
13:34 Zeg9 It is
13:34 markveidemanis ok
13:35 Zeg9 brb.
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13:37 markveidemanis Zeg9: can i also have the map?
13:37 Zeg9 mark, no
13:37 Zeg9 Why?
13:38 Zeg9 markveidemanis, ask OldCoder for this
13:38 markveidemanis why not?
13:38 markveidemanis ok
13:39 Zeg9 Zeg9.strangled.net:5158 << wii server
13:39 Zeg9 !up zeg9.strangled.net 5158
13:39 moltenbot Minetest server zeg9.strangled.net:5158 UP
13:39 Zeg9 Wait, it won't allow to connect again...
13:41 markveidemanis y
13:41 Zeg9 Idk, it's buggy atm
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13:42 markveidemanis dammit
13:42 Zeg9 it worked before ...
13:42 markveidemanis Right:)
13:42 Zeg9 ...but that was before XD
13:43 jeffrash Zeg9, can you backup my castle again?
13:43 Zeg9 jeffrash; I'll come in 20 minutes if you don't mind
13:43 jeffrash that's find.  I'm done now
13:43 jeffrash I'm done for now.
13:44 jeffrash I have alot more to do but it's Christmas eve.  I'll try and check in later
13:44 jeffrash Thanks
13:46 Zeg9 Wii is a good server... If you add 4 GB of ram lol
13:47 thexyz don't forget to add some normal pc too
13:48 Zeg9 An x86 cpu would be nice, yeah
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13:48 Zeg9 jeffrash, coordinates to your castle?
13:52 Zeg9 Quiet...
13:53 markveidemanis SILENCE!
13:54 Zeg9 jeffrash, your castle is saved.
13:54 Zeg9 Wii server ready -> zeg9.strangled.net : 5158
13:54 markveidemanis SILEN--- ah whats the point?
13:54 markveidemanis it world
13:54 markveidemanis #works
13:55 rubenwardy OldCoder, what is your side of the story for this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4187
13:55 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: About the IRC (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
13:57 Zeg9 Hey markveidemanis it is laggy as your server lol
13:57 markveidemanis haha
13:57 markveidemanis lol
13:57 markveidemanis i cant connect
13:57 Zeg9 Sorry; it crashed :D
13:57 markveidemanis but my server is not laggy for me!
13:58 Zeg9 Yeah.
13:58 Zeg9 But you have a shitty connection
14:00 markveidemanis i have 3G
14:00 markveidemanis !
14:01 aldobr can someone move my mod to release section ?
14:01 aldobr http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57541#p57541
14:01 moltenbot aldobr's link: [mod] mint & automatic selling machine [mint] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
14:03 aldobr pls ?
14:04 markveidemanis hi
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14:14 aldobr rubenwardy: cant update my mod on your modlist server
14:18 rubenwardy what happens when you do?
14:18 RealBadAngel anybody wanna see tweaked worldgen with L-system trees can join 77.91.18.205 port 30011
14:19 rubenwardy I can edit it
14:20 rubenwardy You edit it here: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/editentry.php?id=48
14:20 rubenwardy (there is a link at the bottom of the page)
14:20 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Log In - Minetest Mods - Minetest Mods
14:21 kizeren RealBadAngel:  Can't says running in singleplayer mode.
14:21 RealBadAngel oops
14:21 RealBadAngel a sec
14:21 rubenwardy brb
14:22 ruskie OldCoder, anything odd happening with europe? I seem to have some random lag here and there stuff just doesn't get moved from various inventory slots to others and such
14:23 ruskie though seems to be somewhat random
14:24 Jordach ruskie, i think thats a bug on any server
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14:25 ruskie Jordach, well I'm noticing some other lag like picking up blocks and such
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14:27 aldobr rubenwardy when i press save changes, i get a page with the old description instead of the new
14:27 rubenwardy it works for me
14:27 aldobr :/
14:27 Zeg9 !up 77.91.18.205 30015
14:27 moltenbot Minetest server 77.91.18.205:30015 DOWN
14:27 Zeg9 !up 77.91.18.205 30011
14:27 moltenbot Minetest server 77.91.18.205:30011 DOWN
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14:27 Zeg9 RealBadAngel?
14:27 rubenwardy wait a minute
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14:27 KikaRz Hi there :D
14:27 Zeg9 Hi
14:27 rubenwardy I'll try w/o mod privs
14:28 aldobr rubenwardy pls simply delete my entry
14:28 aldobr i will make a new one
14:28 rubenwardy ok then
14:28 ruskie wth... I just got a block of cloudh
14:28 ruskie rm cloud
14:28 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205:30000, server is up
14:28 ruskie erm cloud
14:28 rubenwardy I bet it because of the & in the name
14:29 rubenwardy deleted
14:29 aldobr ok thanks
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14:34 aldobr2 its done
14:34 aldobr2 http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=56
14:34 moltenbot aldobr2's link: View mod - Minting & Automatic Commerce Machines - Minetest Mods
14:34 aldobr2 now pls someone move my topic from mod general to mod releases
14:34 aldobr2 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=57541#p57541
14:34 moltenbot aldobr2's link: [mod] mint & automatic commerce machines [mint] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
14:35 rubenwardy cool
14:35 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205:30000, server is up
14:35 RealBadAngel anybody?
14:36 ruskie I'll join in a sec
14:36 Zeg9 RealBadAngel, huh, it seems it crashed
14:36 Zeg9 forget this ^
14:38 aldobr2 downloading media
14:38 aldobr2 19%
14:39 RealBadAngel it wont take long, a few mods there
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14:39 aldobr2 i believe game should download media from http instead of from server
14:41 RealBadAngel it could be done with curl
14:41 RealBadAngel but i dont have http server there
14:42 RealBadAngel brb, any suggestions and opionions are welcome
14:42 rubenwardy so cool
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14:43 rubenwardy has anything else changed, apart from the trees?
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14:45 RealBadAngel cave generation
14:45 ruskie RealBadAngel, some of those trees give me ideas hehe
14:46 RealBadAngel surface will be no longer so much shattered as after attack of angry moles
14:46 RealBadAngel and its at least twice as fast
14:47 RealBadAngel due to simple fact ive cut down number of caves by 2
14:48 rubenwardy I like it
14:49 RealBadAngel nobody saw that before but caves were also generated above the ground
14:49 RealBadAngel hmmm fixed that
14:49 RealBadAngel and were destroyin another stuff
14:50 rubenwardy redcrab's server seriously lags
14:50 rubenwardy going on VanessaE'
14:50 rubenwardy s
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14:50 RealBadAngel even with number of caves /2 theres still plenty of them
14:51 incognito for everyone on here SPEND CHRISTMAS WITH FAMILY wether it is parents or children okay. Bye
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14:52 rubenwardy wtf
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14:53 rubenwardy jojoa1997: I am with my family
14:54 jojoa1997 ???
14:54 jojoa1997 rubenwardy:why do you say that?
14:54 rubenwardy (14:50:27) incognito [186e15a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.110.21.162] entered the room.
14:54 rubenwardy (14:51:13) incognito: for everyone on here SPEND CHRISTMAS WITH FAMILY wether it is parents or children okay. Bye
14:54 rubenwardy (14:53:07) jojoa1997 [186e15a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.110.21.162] entered the room.
14:54 rubenwardy same ip and isp
14:54 * jojoa1997 perplexed
14:54 rubenwardy fyi: its whether
14:55 jojoa1997 i let my sister borrow this pc and she just got off
14:55 jojoa1997 what did she put
14:56 rubenwardy http://t.qkme.me/3od9w0.jpg
14:56 jojoa1997 my sister is not a lama
14:56 jojoa1997 oh
14:57 jojoa1997 (14:51:13) incognito: for everyone on here SPEND CHRISTMAS WITH FAMILY wether it is parents or children okay. Bye" figures that was why she was in a hurry.
14:57 Jordach looks like im repairing more pcs
14:57 Jordach another fun xmas
14:57 Jordach D:
14:57 aldobr2 she spit water into everyone
14:57 jojoa1997 sorry for her saying that
14:57 aldobr2 :P
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15:03 Zeg9 bbl
15:07 KikaRz rubenwardy
15:08 KikaRz it's not entered the room
15:08 KikaRz it's joined the channeç
15:08 KikaRz *channel
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15:09 rubenwardy it is entered the room for me
15:09 jojoa1997 where would i put this http://pastebin.com/MYAeHWSK to turn line 3 here http://pastebin.com/Kat3UeWs into a number
15:09 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Lua] -- Count the number of times a value occurs in a table   function table_count(tt - Pastebin.com
15:11 aldobr anywhere
15:12 aldobr put before any code that use it
15:13 aldobr merry christmas !
15:13 aldobr how how how
15:13 jojoa1997 like this http://pastebin.com/MQcyVwP9
15:13 moltenbot jojoa1997's link: [Lua] use_mesecons = false     function npc_spawner(pos)  minetest.env:add_entity({x=p - Pastebin.com
15:14 jojoa1997 would i change line 9 to line 16 and get rid of local
15:14 aldobr jojoa1997
15:15 aldobr you should read that book about lua programming that i showed you
15:15 aldobr you are asking 101 programming questions
15:15 jojoa1997 albdor i know nvm
15:15 aldobr that question is not related to minetest scripting but lua programming in general
15:15 jojoa1997 i read it last night though :-) guess i did not get far enough
15:16 jojoa1997 bbl
15:17 aldobr do the following
15:17 aldobr get all utility functions
15:17 aldobr put them on a single file
15:17 aldobr util.lua
15:18 aldobr and import util.lua at the start of your init.lua file
15:21 aldobr dofile(minetest.get_modpath("<yourmodname>").."/util.lua")
15:21 aldobr jojoa1997 ?
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15:22 jojoa1997 is that function i posted earlier a util
15:22 Jakssoul Hey everyone.
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15:24 Kacey hello
15:24 Kacey merry christmas
15:24 markveidemanis Zeg9, theres no copper on the map
15:24 Jakssoul Almost. Merry Christmas Eve.
15:24 Jakssoul At least, for me?
15:25 Zeg9 there is. Search better, mark.
15:25 Kacey true
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15:25 Kacey hola!!!!
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15:28 jojoa1997 bye yall
15:45 markveidemanis Zeg9, il trade 3 stacks of mese for 1 stack of copper
15:46 Zeg9 ...
15:46 aldobr2 its there a port of minetest to haiku/beos ?
15:46 Zeg9 are you in your own mine or the public mine, mark?
15:47 markveidemanis idk, i just flew down at full speed
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15:47 Zeg9 ...
15:47 markveidemanis
15:47 Zeg9 If you want more minerals, just make your own mine
15:47 markveidemanis does the public mine have copper?
15:48 markveidemanis also, for tomorrow, can you make the server look VERY christmassy
15:53 Jordach markveidemanis, you should be with your family, not on #minetest
15:53 Jordach i probably wont be around tomorrow
15:53 ruskie it's incredible how many people think that way
15:53 ruskie I rather enjoy my time with everything all the year
15:54 ruskie not on specific dates
15:54 aldobr2 me too
16:01 rubenwardy how do you wave in minetest?
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16:01 NakedFury im not sure there are emotes in the game
16:03 rubenwardy you mine nothing apparently
16:03 rubenwardy it looks like waving
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16:26 Muadtralk VanessaE!
16:26 Muadtralk I have a bone to pick
16:26 NakedFury hey Muadtralk
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16:27 VanessaE hi
16:27 VanessaE I'm here now
16:27 ecube hi
16:27 VanessaE Muadtralk: you always have a bone...no, a whole damn skeleton to pick with me :-)
16:28 VanessaE hey ecube
16:28 VanessaE and everyone else :-)
16:28 ecube :D
16:30 NakedFury hi
16:30 NakedFury almost christmas merry happy
16:30 NakedFury read from <------------------
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16:42 VanessaE [12-24 11:43] * Muadtralk has quit (Quit: Ragequit, Fuck you all!)   <---- because he hates the new Mese model and can't cope :-)
16:43 rubenwardy oh dear, minecraft is releasing a Modding framework soon...
16:44 VanessaE yay. :)
16:44 VanessaE it won't be as good as ours I'm sure
16:44 rubenwardy https://github.com/Mojang/Minecraft-API
16:45 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Mojang/Minecraft-API ? GitHub
16:46 rubenwardy http://minecraft.net/ such bad description
16:46 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Minecraft
16:46 VanessaE zzz
16:47 * rubenwardy is so bored
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16:47 VanessaE rubenwardy: go play on my server :-)
16:48 rubenwardy dont work
16:48 VanessaE works fine for me, I just went in earlier
16:48 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000
16:48 rubenwardy I can't play on servers. Keeps on timing out
16:48 VanessaE UDP being blocked?
16:50 rubenwardy as in, i play on the server on average < 1 minute, then the mouse locks
16:50 iqualfragile rubenwardy: ok, thats harsh
16:50 rubenwardy timeout
16:50 VanessaE try mine anyway :-)
16:50 iqualfragile so no udp-blocking?
16:50 VanessaE mine's reasonably fast
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16:51 iqualfragile !up vanessae.mine.bz 30000
16:51 moltenbot Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
16:51 VanessaE hey redcrab
16:51 jeffrash Zeg9, Thanks
16:51 jeffrash going to work on more now
16:51 Zeg9 jeffrash, you took time to answer lol
16:52 jeffrash I was away until now
16:52 rubenwardy (16:46:18) rubenwardy: http://minecraft.net/ such bad description
16:52 rubenwardy (16:50:43) iqualfragile: rubenwardy: ok, thats harsh
16:52 rubenwardy it's true, it is not very good literacy for a company
16:52 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Minecraft
16:52 rubenwardy better than the old desc though
16:52 rubenwardy 23%
16:52 Zeg9 I wonder how mesecons perform on wii
16:53 iqualfragile rubenwardy: i meant the (nonexistent) udp-blocking
16:53 iqualfragile and i wondered who would do such a thing
16:55 rubenwardy HD textures are not good on servers
16:55 iqualfragile why not?
16:55 NakedFury I need to share: http://www.hulu.com/watch/335970?playlist_id=1313
16:55 moltenbot NakedFury's link: Watch Saturday Night Live: Disney Housewives online | Free | Hulu
16:56 Zeg9 Texture pack should be choosen by players, not server owners I think
16:56 rubenwardy it takes so long to load, that the client disconnects
16:56 rubenwardy yes
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16:56 rubenwardy brb
16:56 iqualfragile ühm… te loading takes place at the beginning
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16:58 iqualfragile hmm… im testing redshift atm
16:58 iqualfragile its quite… red
16:59 VanessaE [12-24 11:56] <rubenwardy> HD textures are not good on servers  <--- who uses HD textures on a server?
16:59 iqualfragile MEH!
16:59 VanessaE heh which ones?
16:59 iqualfragile the minetoon-ones
16:59 VanessaE ah
16:59 iqualfragile but just on one server
16:59 iqualfragile on the others i use the default-textures with some minor improvements
17:00 iqualfragile but srsly: the textures need to be improved!
17:00 VanessaE indeed they do, but on my server I stick strictly to default textures because I don't wanna piss anyone off with even *longer* load times :-)
17:00 VanessaE 14MB of media is a lot to download already :-
17:00 VanessaE :-)
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17:10 iqualfragile yeah, tell me, im using ambience
17:10 Jordach VanessaE, delete key ftw
17:10 VanessaE Jordach: eh?
17:11 Jordach bin the useless .ogg files
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17:11 iqualfragile redshift actualy looks like quite a good idea
17:11 VanessaE greetz, hmmmm.
17:11 hmmmm hi
17:11 hmmmm i was thinking
17:11 iqualfragile hi hmmmm
17:11 hmmmm maybe there should be a game for the minetest engine that's focused on being environmentally friendly
17:12 hmmmm you have solar panels, forests, etc.
17:12 hmmmm every time you light a torch, your score goes down!
17:12 hmmmm same thing with using coal in furnaces
17:12 iqualfragile eeh…
17:12 iqualfragile nah, well there are two main things minecraft needs right now:
17:13 hmmmm instead, use green(tm) methods such as solar panels!
17:13 iqualfragile 1.: dangers, (mobs) and some kind of conditioning to make you fearfull
17:13 iqualfragile (like sounds or darkness)
17:13 hmmmm our world doesn't need more dangers right now!
17:13 hmmmm climate change is the biggest danger we've got!
17:13 hmmmm we need to teach people to be more sustainable!
17:14 kizeren And each other
17:14 iqualfragile and 2.: variety like better terrain-generation and BIOMES
17:14 * VanessaE looks at hmmmm and wonders what he's been smoking today
17:14 hmmmm vanessa, some of this hemp, it makes you one with nature
17:14 VanessaE iqualfragile: I assume you mean MineTEST there. Not MC :-)\
17:14 VanessaE :-)
17:14 VanessaE hmmmm: you been playing with the weed mod again? ;-)
17:14 iqualfragile and: we shoucd be thinking about using the additional possibilities of minetest for stop beeing so much of a minecraft-clone:
17:14 VanessaE (or drugs or whatever it's called)
17:15 iqualfragile we have "infinite" height, so that should be used
17:15 hmmmm the infrastructure is mostly there
17:15 iqualfragile there should be a hell down there
17:15 iqualfragile and some sky-islands up there
17:16 iqualfragile maybee even some kind ofspace, but that could be impossible because of gravity
17:16 NakedFury nah just make it so after 29k+ gravity works different
17:16 iqualfragile and (3.) minetest need uniformity, systems, evolution-cycles
17:17 hmmmm after 31+k it crashes
17:17 iqualfragile you should need to have some kind of material (i.e. you need iron to craft rails and to mine diamonds) to get another one
17:18 iqualfragile thats important, please try caring about it
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17:18 * VanessaE pokes redcrab :)
17:19 iqualfragile im highlighting celeron55 and thexyz and VanessaE because i do realy think thats what minetest needs
17:19 iqualfragile please think about it and make it happen
17:20 hmmmm iqualfragile, do you think we haven't come up with the same ideas already?
17:20 hmmmm like we were all oblivious to the current shortcomings
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17:21 VanessaE dammit.
17:21 VanessaE I hate when people do that.
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17:21 KikaRz Hi there
17:21 KikaRz :)
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17:22 KikaRz VanessaE, you there? need to talk with you fast.
17:22 VanessaE yep I'm here
17:22 VanessaE I wondered where you'd disappeared to :-)
17:22 KikaRz I got a new computer!
17:22 KikaRz :D
17:22 VanessaE cool
17:22 KikaRz Linux Crunchbang
17:23 mauvebic they still make crunchbang?
17:23 KikaRz Yep.
17:23 mauvebic damn, ran it in 09 i think
17:23 mauvebic they release a new image every other year now
17:23 KikaRz Who can send me that line code to compile minetest?
17:23 KikaRz i wanted.
17:23 mauvebic should be in the readme of the sourcecode?
17:23 KikaRz no.
17:23 KikaRz That "ONE" line
17:24 VanessaE does crunchbang use apt?
17:24 Jordach by iqualfragile was it?
17:24 KikaRz idk
17:24 KikaRz maybe.
17:24 KikaRz idk VanessaE
17:24 KikaRz how i can try? :P
17:24 KikaRz it uses Synaptic Package Manager
17:25 Ipos Crunchbang is based on Debian so yes
17:25 VanessaE Jordach: feel like coding a "pig" mob mod? :-)
17:25 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=58989#p58989
17:25 * Jordach cant program AI for shit
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17:25 VanessaE KikaRz: so use the README, it's valid for almost all debian-based systems.
17:25 KikaRz Noooooo
17:25 KikaRz x_x'
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17:25 mauvebic its make and . cmake
17:25 mauvebic or reverse :S lol
17:26 kizeren I think that is the one thing that stinks about MT.    Lack of mobs/NPCs......But I guess only matter of time....
17:26 KikaRz mauvebic... i dont have the packages installed yet
17:26 mauvebic kizeren there are plenty of free mobs and NPCs to use to build something?
17:26 VanessaE KikaRz: there are LOTS of mobs for MT, most just suck according to some people :-_)
17:26 VanessaE :-)
17:26 mauvebic kikarz the readme says which packages you need
17:26 KikaRz ...
17:27 KikaRz mauvebic.
17:27 VanessaE KikaRz: use the readme.  It's not that hard to read.
17:27 john_minetest there should be a mod framework with meshes
17:27 KikaRz just be quiet and i'll make it myself.
17:27 KikaRz I prefer use this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
17:27 moltenbot KikaRz's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:27 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L83
17:27 KikaRz because it's simplified.
17:27 kizeren I tried the mobf,vombies but kills 0.4.4 everytime sun comes up.
17:27 mauvebic there are one or two mob frameworks? PA's and .. uhm, jeija made the other one? not sure
17:27 VanessaE KikaRz: complete instructions to build on debian (make sure you get all of line 83, some of it goes off-screen)
17:27 KikaRz No Thanks.
17:28 KikaRz Prefer one line script.
17:28 KikaRz working...
17:28 KikaRz WOW
17:28 VanessaE mauvebic: MOBF, Simple MOBs, DoMOBs, c55's DM's mod, NPCs, peaceful NPCs, critters, ...
17:28 KikaRz so fast..
17:28 mauvebic learning to compile wouldn't hurt :P most progs dont come with scripts :p
17:28 NakedFury http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1495041-146-modloader-biomes-o-plenty-adds-60-unique-biomes-122212/
17:28 moltenbot NakedFury's link: [1.4.6] [ModLoader] Biomes O' Plenty - Adds 60 unique biomes! (12/22/12) - Minecraft Forum
17:28 KikaRz mauvebic, i just need to understand the line
17:29 NakedFury we need that for minetest
17:29 rubenwardy (5:27:20 PM) KikaRz: I prefer use this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
17:29 rubenwardy that does not work correctly for me
17:29 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
17:29 KikaRz NakedFury, that mod would kill minetest and minecraft.
17:29 mauvebic plus jordan wtfpl'ed his new 3d NPC
17:29 KikaRz rubenwardy, for you. For me it's working hopefully great!
17:30 john_minetest maybe there should be an API function for registering mobs. settings are "super hostile" (attacking when they see you), "hostile" (attack when you beat them), "neutral" (don't hurt you when you beat them) and also the movement: "fleeing" (try to run away), "following" (go after you, can be used for tamed mobs) and "stationary" (move randomly, no matter what happens around).
17:30 KikaRz We wish you a merry christmas, we wish you a merry christmas... WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a happy NEW Year :D
17:30 VanessaE Calinou's one-liner will not work properly.
17:30 NakedFury Vanessa will your plants ever fall if the supporting block is removed?
17:30 KikaRz VanessaE, it will.
17:30 KikaRz 70%
17:30 VanessaE he leaves out the -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 variable.
17:30 KikaRz And?
17:30 rubenwardy It works, but it is not D_RUN_IN_PLACE
17:30 rubenwardy you can not install mods
17:30 KikaRz I prefer ".minetest"
17:31 rubenwardy or do singleplayetr
17:31 KikaRz yes i can rubenwardy
17:31 VanessaE NakedFury: I could make them do that I suppose - it never occurred to me to do that.
17:31 rubenwardy you can only do multiplayer
17:31 VanessaE KikaRz: damn it listen to us.
17:31 KikaRz No i don't rubenwardy.
17:31 VanessaE Calinou's one-liner IS WRONG.
17:31 KikaRz before, it worked great.
17:31 rubenwardy you can not install mods
17:31 KikaRz YES I CAN
17:31 rubenwardy NOOOO
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17:31 KikaRz I'VE TRIED BEFORE ON THE OTHER PC... AND IT WORKED GREAT!
17:32 mauvebic lol all right timeout
17:32 VanessaE KikaRz: and you kept having to re-do your configuration every time you ran the game,
17:32 VanessaE remember?
17:32 KikaRz not that problem
17:32 VanessaE it kept fucking up everytime you ran the game.
17:32 KikaRz that problem was my pc.
17:32 mauvebic if/when you have problems well still be here :p
17:32 rubenwardy I spent an hour trying to install a mod, with a version complied from that
17:32 * VanessaE shrugs
17:32 VanessaE try it and see then
17:32 KikaRz rubenwardy, shut up.
17:32 KikaRz 92%
17:32 rubenwardy we are right
17:32 mauvebic oy
17:32 M13_ disfuctional on this channel a bit.
17:33 rubenwardy it works, it compiles, it plays, but it does not load mods, world, conf from the right folder
17:33 KikaRz SHUT THE HELL UP!
17:33 KikaRz I'VE LISTENED YET!
17:33 M13_ whoa there
17:33 rubenwardy chill out, it is Christmas (tommorow)
17:33 KikaRz ...
17:33 M13_ KikaRz, pm me
17:33 VanessaE rubenwardy: what is that, some kind of holiday?
17:34 rubenwardy (5:28:54 PM) NakedFury: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1495041-146-modloader-biomes-o-plenty-adds-60-unique-biomes-122212/
17:34 rubenwardy epic
17:34 VanessaE ;)
17:34 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [1.4.6] [ModLoader] Biomes O' Plenty - Adds 60 unique biomes! (12/22/12) - Minecraft Forum
17:34 KikaRz rubenwardy - Ignored.
17:34 rubenwardy has she ignored me?
17:34 mauvebic and i thought i had a temper lol
17:34 mauvebic yeah
17:35 KikaRz i hate annoying repetitive people.
17:35 rubenwardy I am just trying to help
17:35 rubenwardy (someone resend this so she sees it)
17:35 VanessaE [12-24 12:35] <rubenwardy> has she ignored me?
17:35 VanessaE [12-24 12:36] <rubenwardy> I am just trying to help
17:35 VanessaE [12-24 12:36] <rubenwardy> (someone resend this so she sees it)
17:36 mauvebic yeah well when you come back and it doesn't work doesn't expect any help with how polite you were to rubenwardy lol
17:36 VanessaE KikaRz: please do not be a hothead in here.
17:36 mauvebic *dont expect
17:36 KikaRz VanessaE, please, do not be the next.
17:36 M13_ wow -_-
17:36 rubenwardy *vote*
17:36 rubenwardy Who do you look up to in the Minetest Community?
17:37 KikaRz Minetest not working properly - Reason: Too laggy to run. FPS: 2 / 1 / 0.
17:37 KikaRz :/
17:37 VanessaE I repeat.  DO NOT be a hothead in here.  We have enough hotheads as it is.
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17:37 KikaRz I Repeat: Not my fault.
17:37 VanessaE KikaRz: your video driver probably needs fixed first.
17:37 M13_ vanessa did you get ur server under control??
17:37 KikaRz VanessaE: how ?
17:37 VanessaE most likely you got stuck with VESA or LLVM or some other crappy one.
17:37 rubenwardy VanessaE, PilzAdam, celeron55, thexyz
17:38 VanessaE KikaRz: look for an "Additional Drivers" program in your menus.  That's usually how you get the proper driver for your video device.
17:38 VanessaE M13_: yep.
17:38 VanessaE M13_: it's behaving fine now.
17:38 M13_ what was it?
17:38 KikaRz Compositing = shadows, etc?
17:38 VanessaE M13_: a bug in the engine's code involving loading blocks vs. sending them.
17:38 VanessaE KikaRz: yeah, usually.
17:38 KikaRz disabled. :D
17:39 M13_ so you updated git
17:39 VanessaE and compositing usually hurts performance.
17:39 mauvebic did the attach thing get fixed in the git branch yet? im holding out for an update lol
17:39 mauvebic vanessae that depends
17:39 mauvebic newer computers seem to work better w/ compositing on
17:39 VanessaE M13_: I stay close to the head of git master.  In this case it was an experimental tweak that c55 and hmmmm helped me put in.
17:40 VanessaE mauvebic: interesting.  didn't know that,
17:40 rubenwardy (5:35:07 PM) KikaRz: i hate annoying repetitive people.
17:40 rubenwardy Oh the irony
17:40 rubenwardy (5:29:29 PM) KikaRz: rubenwardy, for you. For me it's working hopefully great!
17:40 rubenwardy (5:30:39 PM) KikaRz: VanessaE, it will.
17:40 rubenwardy (5:31:02 PM) KikaRz: yes i can rubenwardy
17:40 rubenwardy (5:31:27 PM) KikaRz: before, it worked great.
17:40 rubenwardy (5:31:38 PM) KikaRz: YES I CAN
17:40 rubenwardy (5:31:48 PM) KikaRz: I'VE TRIED BEFORE ON THE OTHER PC... AND IT WORKED GREAT!
17:40 M13_ damn.... just spam away :P
17:40 mauvebic compositing on my P4 has the CPU at 20% idle, but the dualcore, compositing doesn't affect weather its on or off
17:40 rubenwardy meh
17:41 M13_ what are some good vps hosting sites?
17:41 M13_ good on price and all
17:41 mauvebic oldcoder would know
17:41 M13_ ik i called out to himm
17:44 KikaRz fuck
17:44 KikaRz who did spammed my sound?
17:44 rubenwardy Me! Mw Ha Ha HA
17:44 KikaRz i just heared a lot of blips
17:44 KikaRz it was fucking rubenwardy?
17:45 KikaRz next time, i'll just make it go away.
17:45 marktraceur Children, behave.
17:45 rubenwardy am I still on /ignore?
17:45 marktraceur rubenwardy: Don't flood the channel, use pastebins.
17:45 marktraceur KikaRz: Learn to live with pings, they happen.
17:46 rubenwardy sorry
17:46 KikaRz he / someone just blipped me a lot of times.
17:46 marktraceur KikaRz: Again, that happens. Learn to live with it.
17:46 rubenwardy Mod Loading disfunction?
17:46 rubenwardy I must still be on ignore
17:46 marktraceur KikaRz: I've told you multiple times to change your config so you wouldn't have to whine and bitch at people who just wanted to talk to you. But you didn't listen.
17:47 KikaRz ?
17:47 KikaRz what?
17:47 KikaRz REMEMBERING:
17:47 rubenwardy Sorry Uncle Mark, I'll behave
17:47 KikaRz I'm ON A NEW COMPUTER. this computer was my CHRISTMAS GIFT. i DIDNT CONFIGURED IT YET
17:47 KikaRz thank you.
17:48 rubenwardy correct syntax is HAVENT CONF...
17:48 rubenwardy sorry
17:48 marktraceur KikaRz: That's not my problem--configure it, until you have, don't complain about people acting normally on IRC.
17:48 KikaRz marktraceur, NEITHER MY PROBLEM.
17:48 ruskie and stop yelling already
17:49 mauvebic seriously learn where the caps lock is on your new comp
17:49 marktraceur KikaRz: Actually, it *is* your problem that you haven't configured something correctly and are complaining about our behaviour that aggravates your incorrect configuration.
17:49 KikaRz ...
17:49 KikaRz shut up.
17:49 marktraceur KikaRz: Brain cell test: Who should shut up?
17:49 rubenwardy and /ignore mark lol
17:50 KikaRz ignored.
17:50 marktraceur Fair enough
17:50 rubenwardy I must be a prophet
17:50 rubenwardy or oracle
17:50 marktraceur rubenwardy: Honestly it only means I can't warn her when she's doing something mute-worthy
17:50 rubenwardy yeah
17:50 marktraceur (not *if*, mind ye)
17:50 KikaRz rubenwardy, your auto-ignore time it's now finished. You're unignored.
17:51 mauvebic lol
17:51 mauvebic and i thought my wife's mother was a bi...
17:51 hmmmm oh dear, the might kikarz had ignored rubenwardy
17:51 hmmmm what ever shall he do
17:51 hmmmm s/might/mighty/
17:51 rubenwardy damn, I cant bitch behind her back anymore
17:52 hmmmm in japan it's acceptable to talk about people within earshot
17:52 rubenwardy although, you may me liable to a samurai sword in the back
17:52 rubenwardy "losing face"
17:53 rubenwardy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_%28sociological_concept%29
17:53 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Face (sociological concept) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:53 hmmmm >mfw i have no face
17:53 rubenwardy surpose so
17:54 hmmmm http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/no-face.jpg
17:54 rubenwardy (http://www.urbandictionary.com/ is very useful when talking in chatrooms)
17:54 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Urban Dictionary, December 24: Police Navidad
17:54 rubenwardy slender!
17:55 mauvebic anyone know why, when i scaleup something in blender, the mesh wont load afterwards?
17:55 rubenwardy lol Mod Framework version (http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629) == Minecraft version
17:55 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Mod] MOB Framework [1.4.6 / chicks are waiting] [mobf] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
17:55 Jordach DUN DUN DUUUNNN
17:56 mauvebic its hard to adopt a "framework" without making all the mobs more or less the same :/
17:56 hmmmm slender blender
17:57 rubenwardy === vote ===
17:57 rubenwardy Who do you look up to in the Minetest Community?
17:57 rubenwardy or respect
17:57 hmmmm me
17:57 rubenwardy lol
17:58 hmmmm i don't consider myself part of the 'minetest community' though
17:58 mauvebic me neither
17:58 hmmmm i almost never mingle with you guys
17:58 rubenwardy I respect/lookupto/like VanessaE, PilzAdam, Jordach
17:58 mauvebic i do but i have my own fort in the corner lol
17:59 VanessaE aw :-)
17:59 VanessaE if you look up to me, you're nutz though ;-)
17:59 rubenwardy yeah
18:00 VanessaE hmmmm:  you are, however, a part of the community.
18:00 rubenwardy # We're all crazy around here
18:00 VanessaE a core part, in fact, as you code on the engine.  without folks like you, the rest of us wouldn't have a game to play/mod on
18:00 rubenwardy hmmmm's name always confuses me
18:00 hmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..
18:00 hmmmm it implies i'm thinking
18:01 rubenwardy "hmmmm, what is the meaning of that code change"
18:01 rubenwardy (who is he talking to?)
18:02 hmmmm good, good.... my goal is to confuse
18:02 rubenwardy #43
18:02 rubenwardy sorry
18:02 rubenwardy #42
18:02 marktraceur <3 nicks that are also great ways to start a sentence
18:02 marktraceur "hoo" is another of my favorites
18:03 hmmmm i get a lot of highlights in ##math
18:03 marktraceur "hoo, that is some great programming you just did!"
18:03 mauvebic id have to nominate sapier and local_alchemist (workers mod)
18:03 rubenwardy Interesting
18:03 rubenwardy I don't see much of them
18:04 marktraceur I don't think sapier is on IRC
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18:05 mauvebic you could probably add jeija and sfan to the list as they wrote the classic mods
18:07 mauvebic and randomproof
18:07 john_mt|afk best nick is "I".
18:08 * marktraceur is a fan of NakedFury and Calinou. :)
18:08 john_mt|afk /me am online -> *I am online
18:08 rubenwardy1 joined #minetest
18:08 rubenwardy1 grrr
18:08 rubenwardy1 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59079
18:08 moltenbot rubenwardy1's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:08 q66 [19:08:15] marktraceur is a fan of NakedFury and Calinou. :)
18:09 * q66 read that as "NakedFurry" and was like "ಠ_ಠ"
18:11 mauvebic you sure putting up a poll wont kickoff another flamewar? lol
18:11 rubenwardy not really
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18:12 rubenwardy in fact, lets delete it
18:12 mauvebic lol you nearly got your head ripped off for giving advice lol imagine asking ppl to chose favorites lol
18:13 rubenwardy not favourites, respected people
18:13 rubenwardy yeah
18:13 mauvebic yeah but 3/4 of MT = kids lol
18:14 rubenwardy thexyz, sfan5, VanessaE, delete this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59079
18:14 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:15 VanessaE I dunno, shall I delete it?
18:15 hmmmm popularity contests were sooooo high school.
18:16 rubenwardy I dunno
18:16 rubenwardy lets just see if it does cause problems
18:16 VanessaE ok
18:17 VanessaE bahahah!  http://pysih.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Catnuts-roasting-on-an-open-fire.jpg
18:17 VanessaE that's so ill it's funny :-)
18:18 mauvebic one thread we might consider creating and stickying: mesh /blender resources and tutorials :-)
18:18 hmmmm on another note, i think i've come up with a pretty nifty way to do mapgen configuration.  you'll be able to change parameters on the fly in Lua.
18:18 mauvebic specifically where to find free meshes, how to export to .x, how to do UV mapping
18:18 hmmmm which might be dangerous come to think of it.
18:18 mauvebic hmmm id be interested
18:19 mauvebic as many options as possible would be nice
18:19 mauvebic including a flag to turn off the mapgen completely for no_mapgen worlds
18:20 VanessaE hmmmm: dangerous how?
18:20 rubenwardy (6:18:31 PM) hmmmm: on another note, i think i've come up with a pretty nifty way to do mapgen configuration.  you'll be able to change parameters on the fly in Lua.
18:20 rubenwardy really?
18:20 VanessaE hmmmm: are we afraid the game will generate a spike of stone that sticks out of the screen and stabs the player? :-)
18:20 mauvebic a flag to disable the moon, sun, permanent night or day flags,
18:20 hmmmm vanessa, as in relatively easy to crash since there'd be such a surface area for invalid parameters
18:21 rubenwardy Merlin finale tonight
18:21 hmmmm so i have to do a lot of validation checking now
18:21 VanessaE mauvebic: and for G*d sakes, TEXTURABLE SUN AND MOON
18:21 VanessaE hmmmm: ah right
18:21 hmmmm that stuff's the environment, nothing to do with the map..
18:21 mauvebic oooh
18:21 VanessaE yup I know
18:21 hmmmm i'm sure it'll get done sooner or later, probably not by me though
18:21 mauvebic pleeeeease- let us choose an optional "background image" for the worlds
18:22 mauvebic id love to be able to put some sort of nebula background for my space map
18:22 VanessaE we need to be better than Minecraft..  square sun/moon/plain old sky sucks :-)
18:22 VanessaE mauvebic: +1  or a shot of the milky way across the night sky
18:22 mauvebic we used to be abloe to do that w/ skybox.png
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18:22 Jakssoul Hola.
18:22 VanessaE some nice, thin high clouds in the daytime, above the 3d ones, etc etc
18:22 VanessaE like we used to be able to do...
18:22 VanessaE exactly
18:23 VanessaE hi Jakssoul
18:23 mauvebic but yeah, more map options so i could configure in lua if i have a land based or space based map, im sure others have even better ideas
18:23 VanessaE the general idea of skyboxes as 1000000000x better than this algorithmic shit we have now (sorry c55, it sucks)
18:23 hmmmm space-based map
18:23 hmmmm heh
18:23 hmmmm alright
18:23 mauvebic lemme show
18:23 hmmmm just curious, where would you start off if NOTHING was generated
18:24 VanessaE at 0,0,0 ? :-)
18:24 mauvebic i create my own asteroids lol
18:24 hmmmm and immediately start falling
18:24 hmmmm oh, from Lua
18:24 hmmmm but you see, in order to do that, you still need a mapgen
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18:24 mauvebic see this: http://www.zimg.eu/i/4099203334 the milky way in the background would be way-cool
18:24 hmmmm alright
18:24 hmmmm how about this '
18:24 VanessaE oops.
18:24 hmmmm i add a new land generation type called "none"
18:24 hmmmm and this will place _no_ blocks at all
18:24 VanessaE anyway, if you turn fly mode on by default in such a map you won't fall.
18:24 * rubenwardy is eating chicken tikka curry
18:24 mauvebic well the current hack for no mapgen is to set all the aliases to 'air' - but when you do that, default saplings are broken
18:25 hmmmm mauvebic, looks pretty nice
18:25 hmmmm did you make that with 3d noise?
18:25 mauvebic the asteroid? naw i used guns lol
18:25 VanessaE all that's needed then is to use the same basic inertia model while flying as we have while running
18:25 mauvebic though im trying to automate asteroid creation for that map
18:26 mauvebic i was thinking of replacing 'air' with 'vacuum' on my space map, with damage
18:26 mauvebic then players would have to build a place with breathable air :)
18:26 mauvebic but that has nothing to do w/ the mapgen tho
18:26 hmmmm would vaccum blocks be a liquid type?
18:26 mauvebic airlike
18:26 hmmmm ah
18:26 mauvebic liquid you fall down
18:26 mauvebic well air too lol
18:26 Jakssoul VanessaE, I have a question for you.
18:26 VanessaE what's up?
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18:27 Jakssoul If I log into your server using a different username/password, does that create a permanent profile for your server? I am not going to, just wondering how things work.
18:27 rubenwardy "stumble!" is great for wasting time
18:28 rubenwardy yes
18:28 VanessaE Jakssoul: each userid/password is its' own profile, and are only as permanent as I allow them to be :-_)
18:28 VanessaE :-)
18:28 VanessaE so I can just delete a user if I need to
18:28 Jakssoul Got it, thanks.
18:29 mauvebic if the sun and moon were like lua entities with paramters we could really make each server look like a diff/ world
18:29 Jakssoul I am trying to get my Fiance to play, so I logged in using a userid/pass she wanted to get things started for her. She can just use the same stuff and log in fine, right?
18:30 marktraceur Jakssoul: No, we use fingerprints on the keys to make sure people's accounts don't get stolen. (kidding, kidding, she can use it just fine :) )
18:30 VanessaE yeah as long as she uses the UID/pass you created for her.
18:30 rubenwardy Perttu "celeron55" Ahola
18:31 rubenwardy http://www.sneakytime.com/sound/
18:31 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: Sound Matrix
18:31 Jakssoul Alrighty, thanks.
18:31 mauvebic sounds hawaiin
18:31 VanessaE greetz, mark.
18:31 marktraceur VanessaE: Hi hi!
18:32 mauvebic though its prolly as cold where he is than it is here lol
18:32 mauvebic i cant see the neighbour's house for the giant snowbanks lol
18:35 rubenwardy i wish it would snow here
18:36 VanessaE snow?  that's a four-letter word right there.
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18:37 marktraceur VanessaE: Is wc -c on vacation? :)
18:37 VanessaE heh
18:38 KikaRz people, do you like when your PC starts lagging at games?
18:38 VanessaE not at all.
18:38 mauvebic brand new PC?
18:38 VanessaE brand new PC with busted OS and Minetest installs :-)
18:39 marktraceur KikaRz: I *love* lag!
18:39 mauvebic crunchbang -> ubuntu based no?
18:39 marktraceur mauvebic: Debian, now
18:39 KikaRz VanessaE, Minetest runs at 3 FPS... do you know how much runs Minecraft?
18:40 mauvebic debian is certainly stable, just not terribly fast
18:40 KikaRz try to guess ^^
18:40 VanessaE KikaRz: get a better video driver.
18:40 Jordach KikaRz, 70-200
18:40 mauvebic how many mods have you installed?
18:40 KikaRz yep Jordach
18:40 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59079
18:40 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:40 KikaRz mauvebic... no mods.
18:40 mauvebic wow
18:40 Jordach rubenwardy, the best i can do is offer advice
18:40 mauvebic it takes alot of skill to grab a brand new computer and get 3 FPS
18:41 VanessaE I'm up there with PilzAdam?? how'd that happen?
18:41 VanessaE :-)
18:41 rubenwardy my minetest runs at 60 on a good day
18:41 mauvebic 60FPS on my P4 and the dualcore lol
18:41 mauvebic 40FPS on the netbook
18:41 mauvebic i should edit the confs and find out how high it can go lol
18:41 VanessaE 60fps on my PC, about 30fps on my old laptop, if I use default textures (else it's about 30 and 15 respectively)
18:41 marktraceur rubenwardy: I said NakedFury and Calinou
18:42 rubenwardy ok, counted
18:42 mauvebic eventually we'll find a better way of dealing with textures (as they keep getting bigger/+ numerous)
18:43 Jordach VanessaE, 40 without doing anything, 4 when mass digging / building
18:43 VanessaE heh
18:43 VanessaE Jordach: particles mod? ;-)
18:43 Jordach just default
18:43 Jordach with a mese pick
18:43 VanessaE Jordach: try with an admin pick, it makes a mese pick look like wood.
18:43 Jordach rubenwardy, i respect you a bit, for one simple reason; you can setup webspaces and do cool stuff with them
18:44 Jordach (not to mention support for other extensions)
18:44 mauvebic liking people because they can do things for you isn't really liking them :P (imo)
18:44 rubenwardy thanks
18:45 rubenwardy Ragnar makes me chuckle
18:45 VanessaE Ragnar is just irritating.
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18:46 markveidemanis how do i get stainless steel in technic?
18:46 VanessaE you cook a steel ingot + chromium ingot in an alloy furnace
18:46 VanessaE if I recall right
18:47 rubenwardy VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59090#p59090
18:47 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:47 mauvebic nakedfury talked about making crafts machine-specific yesterday
18:47 marktraceur mauvebic: We have the necessary intellect to condemn ourselves for being so selfish, but the fact that we're here is testament to the success of that particular instinct :)
18:47 rubenwardy he is irritating, but that is funny
18:47 VanessaE aaaaaannnnnd...ragnar's post is deleted.
18:47 VanessaE that is not funny.
18:48 VanessaE and not appropriate for the forums.
18:48 OldCoder Hi
18:48 marktraceur Oh no! What did it say?
18:48 Jordach VanessaE, could you pm what was it about
18:48 thexyz me too
18:48 mauvebic what did he say?
18:48 VanessaE "PilzAdam cause he helped me when i needed help, and never have up =) i love ya bro, in the MOST homosexual way possible!!! O.O"
18:48 Jordach and good afternoon OldCoder
18:48 OldCoder Jordach, Hi!
18:48 VanessaE howdy, OldCoder
18:48 rubenwardy homophobia?
18:48 marktraceur VanessaE: Good delete, good delete
18:48 * Jordach claps
18:48 rubenwardy an edit would be better
18:48 VanessaE brb
18:49 mauvebic doesnt sound homophobic lol
18:49 mauvebic just infantile
18:49 mauvebic you know who else that sounds like right?
18:49 thexyz we'll never know now what was in it
18:50 mauvebic ragnar probably == LM
18:50 rubenwardy If he was, he would have blown up the forums by now
18:51 Jordach i doubt it
18:51 Jordach very unlikely
18:51 rubenwardy I feel some Chuck Norris themed jokes coming on
18:51 Jordach my whois on him when he was here turned out to be in mexico
18:51 iqualfragile rubenwardy: try !joke
18:51 rubenwardy !joke
18:51 rubenwardy "In an average living room there are 1,242 objects LandMine could use to kill you, including the room itself."
18:51 rubenwardy !joke LandMine
18:51 mauvebic i have my doubts by anyways lol
18:52 mauvebic *but
18:52 markveidemanis !joke?
18:52 markveidemanis !joke
18:52 iqualfragile rubenwardy: you could pm the bot
18:54 mauvebic trying to load mods through symbolic links..hm
18:55 marktraceur http://www.stallmanfacts.com/top
18:55 moltenbot marktraceur's link: StallmanFacts.com
18:55 VanessaE RMS is just a joke in and of himself :-)
18:56 john_minetest Some of RMS' ideas are right, but he is too extreme.
18:56 rubenwardy "What was going through the minds of all of rubenwardy's victims before they died? His shoe."
18:56 john_minetest lol
18:56 mauvebic ranks right up there with some of torvald's rants
18:56 marktraceur VanessaE: He can get a bit sidetracked, but his basic theories make sense.
18:57 VanessaE marktraceur: oh sure, the basics is fine.  sidetracked?  er...  just a tad. :-)
18:57 marktraceur VanessaE: I think the great failing of the FSF is that they don't focus on free software--they talk too much about privacy and anonymity, which are separate issues.
18:57 VanessaE yes
18:57 VanessaE privacy comes as a side effect of open source usually anyway, anonymity?  well, that's in a whole other field altogether.
18:58 iqualfragile mauvebic: works without problems
18:58 mauvebic thunar's a pain for making links lol
18:58 VanessaE with the way marketing corporations have tuned their software, anonymity is almost dead and open source can do very little to help that. :(
18:58 marktraceur VanessaE: I'd actually say privacy is killed off by open source methods--if you're pressured into contributing to the community, you have very little privacy.
18:59 VanessaE that's true, to a degree
18:59 marktraceur VanessaE: Ask celeron55, I'm sure he agrees that he's slightly less private now :)
18:59 mauvebic FSF in a nutshell, too much politics not enough bugfixes lol
18:59 rubenwardy VanessaE, did you restore Ragnar's comment?
18:59 VanessaE rubenwardy: no I did not.
19:00 Jordach marktraceur, i see you: http://www.stallmanfacts.com/what
19:00 moltenbot Jordach's link: StallmanFacts.com
19:00 VanessaE rubenwardy: his vote stands, if you choose to include it, but not his comment
19:00 * marktraceur gasps
19:00 marktraceur I got a vote! :)
19:00 marktraceur Jordach: I know right!?
19:00 * Jordach strafes away from Reddit
19:00 marktraceur Jordach: I was so happy to find that I'd helped start a stupid joke website :)
19:00 VanessaE he does that again I'm gonna ban his ass.
19:01 marktraceur VanessaE: I'd say ban the rest of him, but his ass is probably the one producing these posts.
19:01 VanessaE marktraceur: lol
19:01 Jordach hahaha
19:01 mauvebic ahh, its 'ln -s' not 'ln' lol
19:01 Jordach i need some humor
19:01 rubenwardy you should edit, not delete, imo
19:02 VanessaE rubenwardy: if he replaced his deleted post, he'll just replace the deleted content too.
19:02 mauvebic create a hall of shame topic to move all the retarded threads then ban them?
19:02 rubenwardy ok
19:02 rubenwardy good idea
19:02 Jordach we need a place for that
19:02 VanessaE mauvebic: there's no way to disable editing of individual posts apparently.
19:02 Jordach or at LEAST A OFF TOPIC.
19:02 mauvebic dont edit them
19:02 rubenwardy (the ok was to VanessaE)
19:03 VanessaE plus I don't have the ability to move individual posts, only whole topics to other forums.
19:03 mauvebic place them somewhere prominent and let them reflect on it
19:03 * Jordach has been wishing for a Off-Topic section for a year
19:03 mauvebic silently
19:03 mauvebic yeah an offtopic would be nice
19:03 mauvebic make it clear the other boards are for business, not personal issues
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19:05 Zeg9 I have to go, bye all
19:05 Kacey hello
19:05 mauvebic cant stop flames but you can put them all in the same place :P
19:05 mauvebic lol
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19:06 Jordach ugh. three hours before my set bedtime
19:06 Kacey who all is online?
19:06 iqualfragile meht
19:06 Jordach sfan5, if youre around ping me
19:06 sfan5 Jordach: ping
19:06 Jordach good
19:06 Jordach pm
19:06 Kacey lol about 10 hours till my non-set bedtime
19:07 john_minetest got my christmas present 30 minutes ago.
19:07 john_minetest new computer game. it is so epic, it's worth installing wine.
19:07 Kacey got my christmas present 3 months ago
19:08 Kacey i need to install wine
19:08 marktraceur Kacey: Is your calendar broken?
19:08 Kacey no
19:08 Kacey i just dont get presents at the right time
19:08 marktraceur Huh.
19:09 Kacey lol check my info
19:09 Kacey apparently my real name is purple
19:09 Kacey Nick: Kacey
19:09 Kacey Username: ~this@c-67-162-156-91.hsd1.co.comcast.net
19:09 Kacey Real name: purple
19:09 Kacey Server: adams.freenode.net (Budapest, HU, EU)
19:09 Kacey Currently on: #minetest
19:09 Kacey Idle for: 5 seconds
19:09 Kacey Online since: Mon 24 Dec 2012 07:05:14 PM UTC
19:09 Kacey oops
19:10 rubenwardy http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=796 is this an anti-obama server?
19:10 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [0.4.4] NotObamaland! ONLINE (Page 1) - Servers - Minetest Forums
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19:14 Kacey ping if you needme
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19:15 markveidemanis l
19:16 mauvebic why does thunar never remember my tab widths? lol
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19:22 iqualfragile thunar? wtf is thunar?
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19:22 mauvebic one of the crappier file managers lol
19:23 mauvebic check this out, cylon raider + viper : http://www.zimg.eu/i/615521507
19:23 iqualfragile you mean like explorer?
19:23 john_minetest VanessaE: what is the mod you use for protecting buildings on your server?
19:23 marktraceur iqualfragile: Yes.
19:24 mauvebic yep
19:24 iqualfragile but how can you install another explorer? and why would you?
19:24 Kacey this is very interesting
19:24 marktraceur iqualfragile: He's on GNU/Linux
19:24 OldCoder NakedFury, time to activate your 3D self. Sorry and excuse me... any chance of the link one more time? I am tired and don't wish to grep for it
19:24 VanessaE john_minetest: node_ownership
19:24 iqualfragile wtf is that? is that one of those new drugs everybody is talking about?
19:24 marktraceur iqualfragile: It's a free operating system.
19:25 mauvebic yes
19:25 mauvebic you take gnu through the buttocks region
19:25 mauvebic (adequately describes post install troubles) :p
19:25 iqualfragile nah, no need for that, i have just bought windows 8, why would i want some crappy free software?
19:25 marktraceur iqualfragile: True, you already have abysmally crappy non-free software!
19:25 Kacey i too hae windows 8
19:25 john_minetest VanessaE: thanks
19:26 iqualfragile no, windows8 is great
19:26 iqualfragile the tiles are awsome
19:26 iqualfragile there are no more confusing settings
19:26 mauvebic i think he's trolling you mark lol
19:26 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/78
19:26 VanessaE any opinions on this?
19:26 iqualfragile and i can finaly use my computers builtin touchscreen!
19:26 marktraceur iqualfragile: Thank the lords, I'd hate to have to choose something for myself.
19:26 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'm glad you don't need to exercise your brain with any of those pesky choices that come along with being free.
19:27 iqualfragile absolutely
19:27 mauvebic i dont mind choosing but linux is abit like a used car dealer when it comes to choosing a dist
19:27 iqualfragile all those settings under windows 7 were confusing
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19:27 iqualfragile and windows xp was even worse
19:27 kaeza hallo
19:27 iqualfragile but now everything was made by microsoft, so its allright
19:28 kaeza another windows war?
19:28 kaeza yay!
19:28 iqualfragile hallo kaeza, wie gehts dir?
19:28 marktraceur mauvebic: Sholud be pretty simple to choose linux--go for whatever's in your package manager's repositories
19:28 mauvebic naw im talking about choosing a dist that doesnt choke within 2 minutes of loading the disc lol
19:28 mauvebic or thumb drive
19:28 kaeza iqualfragile: I don't understand a word of that lol
19:28 kaeza sorry
19:29 marktraceur mauvebic: Oh, you don't mean choosing a distribution of Linux, sorry, I misunderstood
19:29 marktraceur mauvebic: I've had good success with Trisquel GNU/Linux, but I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for
19:29 Jordach iqualfragile, finally, someone who speaks english
19:29 iqualfragile wtf? guys, why do you care about that stuff? its much to confusing, just use windows and everything will be easy!
19:30 Jordach again, speaking ENGLISH.
19:30 iqualfragile no need to choose any strange distributions
19:30 mauvebic i want a dist that includes as many drivers as possible (including the binaries) with a minimal desktop, so that it works from the get go and i can build up
19:30 mauvebic so far thats archbang
19:30 rubenwardy I shudder at Windows 8
19:30 Jordach rubenwardy, i like it
19:30 iqualfragile Jordach: kaeza said hallo wich is a german word so i replied using the german language
19:30 kaeza lol I'm spanish
19:30 kaeza hola!
19:30 kaeza is that better?
19:30 Jordach iqualfragile, this was at the W8 remark
19:30 mauvebic and its ridiculous because they build these flashy DE's but they refuse to include the binaries by default cuz their not free lol
19:30 Kacey i understand a fewwords from every language
19:31 rubenwardy I shudder because it is not productive enough for me, as a coder
19:31 kaeza o hai Kacey
19:31 marktraceur iqualfragile: We're a bit more interested in being able to do things with our property, thanks.
19:31 kaeza now this is LOLspeak
19:32 Jordach marktraceur, these days its the hardware that matters
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19:32 marktraceur Jordach: True--some of them use restricted boot, you have to watch for that. But it's also important to be able to change the software.
19:32 Jordach look at Apple, MS Surface, Google Nexus
19:33 mauvebic people are willing to settle for what works
19:33 Jordach point is, if the outside aint nice, no one buys it
19:33 rubenwardy are they restrict boot?
19:33 mauvebic the next logical goal for linux would be to *just work* on everything, then theyll appreciate the extra options
19:33 Jordach googles nexus and idevices are a little, but the general root / jailbreak solves this
19:33 Jordach rubenwardy, ^^
19:33 marktraceur rubenwardy: The Surface probably uses it--I'd imagine it's the reason for the ARM exception to the "we won't lock down any platforms" idea.
19:33 rubenwardy goof
19:34 rubenwardy goof
19:34 rubenwardy good
19:34 rubenwardy da,n
19:34 aldobr marry christmas hou hou hou
19:34 rubenwardy grrr
19:34 rubenwardy damn
19:34 mauvebic still 15h on the 24th here lol
19:34 rubenwardy mArry christmas?
19:34 aldobr happy capitalist consumerism to all !
19:34 Kacey left #minetest
19:34 kaeza not christmas yet here
19:34 aldobr well
19:34 kaeza but ty
19:34 aldobr 16 hours here
19:34 aldobr so basically they are already at xmas in japan
19:35 Jordach no to mention that a recent case with apple v. consumer over jailbreaking indicates that you own the devices OS after root / jailbreak
19:35 Jordach not
19:35 kaeza aldobr: you from Brazil?
19:35 marktraceur Happy holidays to all, and to all a good TZAG.
19:35 aldobr yes
19:35 kaeza Uruguay here ^_^
19:35 mauvebic Quebec here (Yukon on apple maps)
19:35 marktraceur Jordach: Federal court? Which country?
19:35 Jordach general US
19:36 marktraceur Jordach: Citation needed
19:36 kaeza marktraceur: http://xkcd.com/285/
19:36 aldobr may i tell something to all you minetest players ?
19:36 moltenbot kaeza's link: xkcd: Wikipedian Protester
19:37 marktraceur kaeza: Makes me so happy :)
19:37 marktraceur aldobr: What's that?
19:37 aldobr you wont like what i have to say
19:37 aldobr but i will say it anyway
19:37 aldobr santa claus does not exist
19:37 aldobr :D
19:37 kaeza no, it's papa noel
19:37 rubenwardy (7:36:49 PM) kaeza: marktraceur: http://xkcd.com/285/
19:37 rubenwardy great :D
19:37 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: xkcd: Wikipedian Protester
19:38 kaeza marktraceur: you can find an xkcd comic for almost any situation :D
19:39 marktraceur kaeza: Agreed. And 90% of the time, it's the {{cn}} guy :)
19:39 kaeza welcome to the internetz my friend!
19:40 kaeza where rumors are true and facts don't matter
19:43 rubenwardy VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59079
19:43 moltenbot rubenwardy's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:43 marktraceur Where everything's made up and the dick hats don't matter. Yes, that's right, the dick hats are just like banning LandMine, they don't make a damn lick of difference.
19:44 thexyz huh, nobody respects c55
19:44 VanessaE lol
19:44 thexyz (and me too)
19:44 VanessaE I'm rapidly creeping up on PilzAdam \o.
19:44 VanessaE \o/
19:44 marktraceur thexyz: I appreciate you! rubenwardy, add a vote for Mr. thexyz.
19:45 rubenwardy ok
19:45 thexyz oh, wait, c55 just got 1 vote
19:45 kaeza hey hey V
19:45 Jordach i wont vote due to bias
19:45 rubenwardy it wont bias, just dont vote yourself
19:46 Jordach this is somewhat biased towards pilzadam due to his modding capabilites
19:46 Jordach (not to mention forum status, eg mod.)
19:46 kaeza and because he gave me his 1000th post \o/
19:46 NakedFury OldCoder: http://imgur.com/4R9T2
19:46 moltenbot NakedFury's link: imgur: the simple image sharer
19:46 rubenwardy true
19:47 Jordach rubenwardy, this is very flawed.
19:47 rubenwardy but is it Bias? People respect/like him because of his mods
19:47 Jordach yes, since no other coder can actually compare
19:47 mauvebic well dont forget
19:48 mauvebic opensource is built on opensource
19:48 mauvebic alot of stuff from today is based on stuff from 1yr, 2yrs ago
19:48 mauvebic hence +1 randomproof
19:49 Jordach mauvebic, im upto something
19:49 Jordach secret project phase 1
19:49 mauvebic and +1 sapier
19:49 mauvebic which garden mods arent based on sapier's works? lol
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19:50 Muadtralk if anyone can see if compiling 0.3.2 works? I have been getting some funny errors
19:51 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/stable-0.3
19:51 moltenbot Jordach's link: celeron55/minetest at stable-0.3 ? GitHub
19:51 Jordach compile me.
19:51 VanessaE also, hi kaeza  :-)
19:51 rubenwardy i am not sure whether c55 counts as a community member
19:51 mauvebic why not?
19:51 rubenwardy nah, he does
19:51 mauvebic hes neither a god or a paid employee, so he counts :p
19:51 VanessaE without him, the community wouldn't have gotten started :-)
19:51 Jordach because he does nothing
19:52 Jordach just sits here idling most days#
19:52 mauvebic tho jordach is prolly right the poll is biased towards our short term memories lol
19:52 aldobr i would vote in kaeza if there was such option :P
19:52 kaeza well... I agree in that c55 is not very "sociable"
19:53 Jordach mauvebic, that sounded like Muadtralk
19:53 mauvebic muadtrack?
19:53 Muadtralk did it?
19:53 kaeza I mean, I don't see him very ofter here
19:53 Muadtralk i would have said something much more strange
19:53 kaeza aldobr: thx
19:54 kaeza You can vote whoever you want, so /me is an option :P
19:56 aldobr What is the previous stable version of Minetest? (N.N)
19:56 rubenwardy 0.4.1?
19:57 rubenwardy 0.3.1, 0.4.1, 0.4.3 are all stable, arent they?
19:57 OldCoder Worlds shutting down for updates
19:57 markveidemanis why
19:57 OldCoder Updates
19:57 OldCoder As in
19:57 OldCoder I said
19:57 markveidemanis will it take long?
19:57 OldCoder Worlds shutting down for updates
19:57 OldCoder It will if you keep asking :P
19:57 OldCoder "Are we there yet?"
19:57 OldCoder "Are we there yet?"
19:57 OldCoder :-)
19:57 markveidemanis mummy...
19:57 markveidemanis :-)
19:58 markveidemanis wai, the new version
19:58 OldCoder Wait
19:58 markveidemanis i dont wanna updat
19:58 markveidemanis all the mese...
19:58 OldCoder Fixes
19:58 OldCoder Updates
19:58 OldCoder Good stuff
19:58 OldCoder Mese comes later
19:58 OldCoder I don't wish to break too much at once
19:58 markveidemanis KEEP THE MESE AS IT IS!:)
19:58 markveidemanis yay
19:58 OldCoder No changes right now to that
19:59 markveidemanis YAY
19:59 markveidemanis when will be up
19:59 OldCoder markveidemanis, every time you ask you distract me
19:59 markveidemanis ok
19:59 markveidemanis ok
19:59 markveidemanis wait,ALL the worlds?
19:59 OldCoder I always update
19:59 OldCoder All the worlds
19:59 OldCoder with fixes 'n stuff
20:00 OldCoder Wait
20:00 OldCoder I will make the green guy look good
20:00 Muadtralk hope none of you people build with mese then
20:00 STHGOM lol
20:00 Muadtralk you will see your buildings turn to ore
20:00 OldCoder Heh
20:00 OldCoder It's orrible!
20:01 markveidemanis that would be horrible
20:01 OldCoder 'orrible
20:01 markveidemanis damn
20:01 OldCoder ore-ible
20:01 Muadtralk thats what will happen
20:01 markveidemanis 'ore'in'feirhb
20:01 Jordach ha!
20:01 markveidemanis christmas
20:01 OldCoder I am going to make the green guy better
20:01 markveidemanis DONT
20:02 OldCoder Try it
20:02 markveidemanis HE IS GOOD AS HE IS
20:02 OldCoder He will be the same
20:02 OldCoder Just less fuzzy
20:02 Jordach 4 hours to ho over in gmt+0
20:02 Jordach go
20:02 Muadtralk hmmm?
20:02 Muadtralk what ho?
20:02 Jordach s/ho/go
20:02 Muadtralk the big red one?
20:02 * Jordach sniggers
20:03 Muadtralk the big red baron is coming ashore.........
20:03 Jordach okay, this is taking the piss now. iTunes is somewhat making my pc faster... :(
20:03 Muadtralk there is some relevance to that statement
20:05 kaeza YAY! I CAN HAZ A VOTE!!!
20:05 thexyz iTunes makes your pc faster in only this way: you close it and your pc feels faster
20:05 kaeza \o/
20:05 kaeza s/CAN//
20:05 markveidemanis OldCoder: is it done yet?
20:06 OldCoder Heh
20:06 OldCoder "Are we there yet?"
20:06 OldCoder "Are we there yet?"
20:06 OldCoder "Are we there yet?"
20:06 OldCoder
20:06 VanessaE no.
20:06 VanessaE no.
20:06 VanessaE no.
20:06 OldCoder markveidemanis, when you ask it distracts me
20:06 OldCoder But the green guy should look sharper now
20:06 markveidemanis an operator...spamming?
20:06 markveidemanis :)
20:06 VanessaE DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE!
20:06 markveidemanis NOOOO
20:07 VanessaE :)
20:07 markveidemanis can you make mese be dark green again
20:07 thexyz dark green? again?
20:07 thexyz wasn't it yellow?
20:07 markveidemanis http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=minetest+mese&amp;um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;hs=NeF&amp;sa=N&amp;tbo=d&amp;channel=cs&amp;biw=1024&amp;bih=512&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=m4u2SOzS2BIYAM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mese&amp;docid=6lcKo5ovBL9_ZM&amp;imgurl=http://wiki.minetest.com/images/e/e7/Old_Mese.png&amp;w=150&amp;h=150&amp;ei=BLbYUPKwLYaa1AW7zYCIAw&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=rc&amp;dur=307&amp;sig=106441845925408229611&amp;page=1&amp;tbnh=120&amp;tbnw=120&amp;start=0&amp;ndsp=15&amp;ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0,i:91&amp;tx=
20:07 markveidemanis sorry, google
20:07 thexyz oh
20:08 kaeza markveidemanis: first follow the link then copy & paste addres bar here
20:08 markveidemanis http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mese
20:08 markveidemanis second pic
20:08 kaeza better :)
20:08 VanessaE markveidemanis: ew.  ANYTHING but that ugly-ass Mese block :-)
20:08 markveidemanis are
20:08 markveidemanis wait...
20:08 VanessaE I guess the Wiki is gonna need updated.
20:09 markveidemanis green mese looked much better than any mese ever
20:09 thexyz VanessaE: why is it ugly?
20:09 markveidemanis its AWESOME
20:10 OldCoder O.K.
20:10 OldCoder Any minor mod updates or change?
20:10 VanessaE markveidemanis: even better than this?
20:10 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_2948626890.png
20:10 thexyz i find traditional (yellow) mese much uglier; the only problem that the green one doesn't fit its name
20:11 markveidemanis haha moltenbot ignores you
20:11 NakedFury just make mese a stone with yellowish lines as ore
20:11 VanessaE yes I know.
20:11 VanessaE NakedFury: others rejected that outright.
20:11 markveidemanis http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/File:Old_Mese.png
20:11 VanessaE hence I went with a sort of lumpy appearance
20:11 john_minetest installing "edna&harvey - the breakout" now :D
20:11 OldCoder Would anybody like to request changes? Not mese next generation yet
20:12 thexyz VanessaE: in your screenshot it looks more like gold block with MESE engraved
20:12 VanessaE haha
20:12 VanessaE lighting bug
20:12 Muadtralk it still isnt properly cross compatible with previous versions
20:12 OldCoder When I restart will somebody try Jordach xmas mod for me? I have been requesting this.
20:13 OldCoder One change left I think
20:13 OldCoder mauvebic, are you here?
20:13 VanessaE Muadtralk: it is impossible to make it 100% cross-compatible with old versions.
20:14 OldCoder mauvebic, are you here?
20:14 STHGOM are we there yet?
20:14 OldCoder STHGOM, Almost
20:14 OldCoder Find mauvebic for me
20:14 STHGOM :D
20:14 VanessaE thexyz: that block is actually far yellower in the texture file and is seen on screen:
20:14 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/default_mese_block.jpg
20:15 VanessaE thexyz: for comparison, this is gold:  https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/512px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_512HD/moreores_gold_block.jpg
20:15 VanessaE at least in HDX.
20:16 STHGOM OldCoder : yay you're still an OP!
20:16 kaeza VanessaE: have you added the streets and doors?
20:16 VanessaE kaeza: streets and doors?
20:16 Jordach apparently my gpu has a 1gb of video ram
20:16 Jordach yet the box states 512mb
20:17 Muadtralk yes but i would rather have mese blocks in the ground where they shouldnt be then buildings made of ore
20:17 OldCoder LuaEntity name "default:falling_node" not defined
20:17 jeffrash OldCoder, server down again?
20:17 OldCoder VanessaE, any comments on that for Zegaton?
20:18 OldCoder jeffrash, I am updating
20:18 VanessaE Muadtralk: world edit or get Jeija's "old mese" mod.
20:18 jeffrash ok, that's cool
20:18 VanessaE OldCoder: no clue
20:18 jeffrash just making sure it wasn't me
20:18 OldCoder jeffrash, Nope. New stuff being added.
20:18 Muadtralk shouldnt need a mod to correct these things
20:18 jeffrash cool
20:18 OldCoder Any mod requests?
20:18 VanessaE Muadtralk: the code patch was itself a correction.  what you want to do is break it again.
20:18 jeffrash not that I can think of
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20:19 kaeza1 VanessaE: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2984
20:19 moltenbot kaeza1's link: [Mod] Create modern cities: Asphalt and more [0.2] [streets] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
20:19 OldCoder Is anybody able to comment on LuaEntity name "default:falling_node" not defined ?
20:19 VanessaE kaeza1: oh yes, I forgot about that one.  I'll look into it shortly.
20:19 OldCoder Odd... It's only mentioned in Zegaton default/init.lua
20:19 kaeza1 no hurries V
20:19 Muadtralk ahhh just forget it you wont ever budge. I'm out for good you twit
20:20 OldCoder And will somebody try Jordach xmas for me?
20:21 OldCoder Nobody can comment on xmas mod or falling_node?
20:22 kaeza1 OldCoder: no clue
20:22 OldCoder kaeza1, ty
20:22 kaeza1 does anybody have a copy of this? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1982
20:22 moltenbot kaeza1's link: Traffic signals, roads and cycleways mod (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
20:22 kaeza1 It seems the user removed mod
20:22 Jordach OldCoder, just remove the mod if it seems unused
20:23 OldCoder Jordach, which mod?
20:23 Jordach mine
20:23 OldCoder Jordach, xmas? I want to see it
20:23 OldCoder Surely on Christmas Eve somebody will give me a Christmassy scene
20:23 Jordach OldCoder, im considering buying a VPS with fibre optic speed
20:23 OldCoder All right
20:24 Jordach might be your xmas present
20:24 OldCoder Hmm?
20:24 OldCoder The xmas mod?
20:26 Jordach OldCoder, pm
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20:31 OldCoder Jordach, we are there
20:32 STHGOM :D
20:32 Jordach hey guys, should i buy a vps?
20:33 OldCoder They are affordable
20:33 OldCoder You will then have considerable flexibility
20:33 OldCoder I can share some of my scripts and setup instructions
20:33 Jordach how about 4vcpu, 64gb of ram, 10tb of bandwidth, and 430gb of storage
20:34 OldCoder Whoa!
20:34 OldCoder That is overkill
20:34 OldCoder Quite powerful
20:34 OldCoder Can save a bit of $$$
20:34 OldCoder Lower specs will be fine
20:34 OldCoder Could run businesses off of that!
20:34 Jordach OldCoder, i can pay for this in 9 months
20:34 OldCoder :-)
20:34 OldCoder Good
20:34 Jordach and live off the three months in between
20:34 OldCoder But you can run a company off of that
20:35 Jordach £5375 = 8665.04$
20:35 OldCoder Yep
20:35 OldCoder $$$
20:35 Jordach all SSD
20:35 Jordach so no lag inbetween clicks
20:35 OldCoder It is not a toy to be sure
20:36 Jordach OldCoder, i plan on hosting minetest server
20:36 Jordach and Minecraft
20:36 OldCoder That is a heck of a server
20:36 OldCoder Plenty of room for other stuff
20:36 Jordach (and perhaps pay for private servers)
20:37 Jordach actually the top storage was 440gb
20:37 Jordach and £10 more
20:37 OldCoder Does anybody here know about Zeg9 glow mod? I will fix that now. Jordach We have established that is quite a system.
20:38 Jordach considering i earn £600 a month, i can even drop donations to minetest
20:38 OldCoder All right
20:38 Jordach VanessaE, can i have a word
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20:38 marktraceur OldCoder: Have you released your server admin scripts?
20:39 * VanessaE hands Jordach a word.
20:39 OldCoder marktraceur, some of them yes
20:39 VanessaE "One"
20:39 VanessaE :-)
20:39 Jordach VanessaE, pm
20:39 VanessaE sure
20:39 markveidemanis are we there yet?
20:39 * marktraceur also has an init script that is somewhere public
20:39 markveidemanis are we there yet?
20:39 markveidemanis are we there yet?
20:39 markveidemanis :-)
20:39 OldCoder markveidemanis, almost
20:39 marktraceur markveidemanis: It was ironic when OldCoder did it.
20:40 markveidemanis OldCoder....
20:40 marktraceur https://gist.github.com/998260
20:40 moltenbot marktraceur's link: minetest init script
20:40 marktraceur Probably a few hacks I need to upload
20:40 markveidemanis /ignore marktraceur
20:40 marktraceur markveidemanis: Only if you don't want warnings before consequences--which would be fine with me :)
20:41 markveidemanis [20:40] <@marktraceur> Probably a few hacks I need to upload <== HACKER
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20:41 Muadtralk|Incomm hmmm?
20:41 OldCoder zeg9 has done a glow fix. Does anybody know where he put i?
20:41 Muadtralk|Incomm do you know the definition of hack?
20:41 OldCoder *put it?
20:41 markveidemanis i've seen it all: +b +q +umm...thats all
20:41 marktraceur markveidemanis: Kind of you to say that, thanks :)
20:41 marktraceur (the hacker thing)
20:41 markveidemanis np
20:41 Sparky brb
20:42 markveidemanis i kinda meant it in an "offensive" way...
20:42 OldCoder Of course
20:42 marktraceur markveidemanis: How could you possibly construe "hacker" in an offensive way?
20:42 kaeza1 hacker is not an offensive term
20:42 markveidemanis if you mean hacker the dog from cbbc:)
20:43 kaeza1 it says someone is very proficient with the inner workings of computers
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20:43 markveidemanis thats a programmer
20:43 * Jordach facepalms and slaps an /ignore
20:43 kaeza1 no a programmer is proficient, a hcaker is *very* proficient
20:43 kaeza1 hacker*
20:44 kaeza1 so it should be an honor to be called hacker
20:44 marktraceur markveidemanis: It also implies that the person uses very small iterations to achieve goals--leading to the noun "hack" meaning "small, iterative changes".
20:45 markveidemanis hack: to hack at a tree?
20:45 marktraceur markveidemanis: Similar meaning, yes.
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20:45 markveidemanis minetest.org:30015...OldCoder... Are  We  There  Yet  ?
20:46 OldCoder Yes
20:46 markveidemanis oh yay
20:46 OldCoder NEWS: Dogzilla usesdirt mod added. Green Guy should be sharper now. VanessaE World updated. auth and log files are back online. NakedFury has his 3D avatar. Mauvebic World is back online. Lots more.
20:46 OldCoder Lots of stuff may be broken!
20:46 OldCoder Please report bugs and so on
20:46 NakedFury ok
20:46 OldCoder And somebody build me an xmas scene using Jordach mod
20:46 OldCoder Is that too much to ask for a screenshot on Christmas?
20:47 OldCoder mauvebic, test your world please and thank you
20:47 OldCoder kaeza1, IRC test is next
20:47 Muadtralk|Incomm hmmm i dont have jordaches mod but i tihnk i have one from a previous mod
20:47 kaeza1 thx OldCoder
20:47 kaeza1 please update again
20:47 OldCoder Muadtralk|Incomm, It is on most of my worlds right now
20:47 OldCoder Has been for days
20:47 kaeza1 fixed small bug
20:47 OldCoder kaeza1, will do. I need a short break.
20:47 OldCoder Others please poke at worlds and see what is busted!
20:47 kaeza1 k
20:47 OldCoder You can change from 2D to 3D on the fly now
20:48 OldCoder It is in your Inventory
20:48 OldCoder 2D and 3D can mix
20:48 OldCoder This part is funb
20:48 OldCoder * fun
20:48 OldCoder I do wish a Christmas scene. Will somebody give me one?
20:52 markveidemanis i will
20:52 markveidemanis , OldCoder
20:52 VanessaE OldCoder: 30017 seems okay but a little slow to load.
20:52 VanessaE so THIS is what it looks like with the default textures :-)
20:53 STHGOM YAY IM STHGOM AGAIN!!!
20:59 * OldCoder is on a short break
21:13 OldCoder Back
21:13 OldCoder Jordach, You don't need to spend that kind of money. Much cheaper will still buy a business class server.
21:14 OldCoder mauvebic, I neglected to update the map. I'll do that today. Check out the modset now though.
21:14 Jordach still power and choice are two different things like a git .diff
21:14 OldCoder Yes!
21:14 OldCoder Simply decide what you wish to do. And to be. Then proceed.
21:14 OldCoder Others, will nobody build me a Christmas scene on one of my worlds?
21:14 Jordach anyways.
21:14 OldCoder I'd like to blog a screenshot
21:14 Jordach Merry Christmas everyone.
21:14 OldCoder kaeza1, proceeding now
21:15 Jordach good night everyone, have a merry christmas
21:15 OldCoder Jordach, it is a Minetest Christmas!
21:15 markveidemanis MERRY CHRistMAS
21:15 marktraceur Happy solstice to all! :)
21:15 OldCoder Seasons Greetings
21:15 markveidemanis YAY]
21:15 OldCoder Festivus Forever
21:15 OldCoder etc.
21:15 markveidemanis seasons greedings
21:15 OldCoder The FSM Blesses You
21:15 markveidemanis i havea cold
21:15 OldCoder Too bad
21:15 markveidemanis bless you!
21:15 markveidemanis ATCHOOOO!
21:15 Jordach markveidemanis, possibly the norovirus thats been going around
21:15 Jordach anyways, merry xmas
21:15 markveidemanis yep
21:16 markveidemanis thanks, you too
21:16 Jordach (see ya thursday, may be tomorrow though)
21:16 Jordach night.
21:16 OldCoder Jordach, on a break? C U then
21:16 kaeza1 OldCoder: back
21:16 kaeza1 k
21:16 OldCoder Working
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21:17 VanessaE comments requested:
21:17 VanessaE https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/79
21:18 markveidemanis why would you want to fix something that was caused by something that was never ment to be?
21:18 marktraceur VanessaE: What was the result of that poll about Mese?
21:18 OldCoder kaeza1, git cloned
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21:18 OldCoder kaeza, git cloned
21:18 VanessaE marktraceur: to make crystals.
21:19 marktraceur Hrm.
21:19 VanessaE it got implemented as such, but a fair number of people balked at the idea,
21:19 kaeza VanessaE: +1
21:19 VanessaE so this ^^^ should alleviate the last of peoples' concerns.
21:19 marktraceur Yeah, I'm not terribly happy about it....
21:19 kaeza that should shut up all that crystals vs blocks bitching :)
21:19 VanessaE yes
21:20 marktraceur I maintain that there wasn't a big problem with the existing way Mese worked
21:20 OldCoder kaeza: cmake . && make && make pack_mod
21:20 kaeza OldCoder: yes
21:20 OldCoder Proceeding to install
21:20 VanessaE people whose maps have default:mese already will get blocks.  Parts of maps where it doesn't appear yet will get ore instead.
21:20 VanessaE if they want crystals, they can split the mese blocks into crystals as already is the case.
21:20 VanessaE and craft those into fragments.
21:20 VanessaE so this should cover all use cases.
21:21 marktraceur VanessaE: What, again, was the rationale for this?
21:21 mauvebic oldcoder modset seems to work and the world loads alot faster :-)
21:21 VanessaE the only effect is it causes a little bit of economic inflation where people ascribe some monetary value to mese.
21:21 OldCoder kaeza, turn on both autojoin settings?
21:21 OldCoder mauvebic, Good!
21:21 OldCoder mauvebic, I will update map
21:22 VanessaE marktraceur: Mese should be more versatile out of the box than it was before.  Two types of blocks plus two items versus a single block?  I think it's obvious which one is more versatile.
21:22 kaeza OldCoder: that's up to you if you need them
21:22 OldCoder kaeza, is mod load one sufficient?
21:22 OldCoder mt_irc.connect_on_load = true; ?
21:22 mauvebic i opened all the doors on my map too :p should be easier to explore buildings and get to the skywalk
21:22 kaeza OldCoder: if only auto connects then players must manually /join
21:22 OldCoder kaeza, so turn on both?
21:22 marktraceur VanessaE: Except that it's not versatile because you need to craft it a few times in order to use it for something. And presumably it has comparable strength, but it's easier to get in larger quantities
21:22 kaeza yup
21:23 OldCoder kaeza, I need it to work without manual intervention
21:23 VanessaE marktraceur: if you dig mese ore, you get a crystal.  dig three to get three, make those into mese picks and so forth.
21:23 OldCoder Preparing to test
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21:23 VanessaE this is just for additional backwards compatibility with old maps.
21:23 Kacey hallo
21:23 marktraceur Ah K.
21:23 kaeza konnichiwa
21:23 VanessaE hey kacey
21:24 marktraceur VanessaE: I recall your initial patch playing with the number of mese you got per block. Sorry about that.
21:24 marktraceur VanessaE: The crystal thing....seems a bit out of place, but acceptable.
21:24 * Kacey is working on a multi-boot system
21:24 kaeza Kacey: \o/
21:24 kaeza Kacey: grub?
21:24 VanessaE marktraceur: yeah, the previous numbers-of patch never went in
21:24 Kacey yumi
21:24 kaeza ah
21:24 marktraceur VanessaE: Fragments, I'm not sure. Those could likely be a separate mod, since nothing in default uses fragments (that I've heard)
21:25 VanessaE marktraceur: "out of place" is good, because mese is supposed to be very different from the rest of the stuff in the game - an alien artifact as c55 thinks :-)
21:25 VanessaE marktraceur: nothing in default uses them, but a couple of mods do now.  I figured there was no harm in putting that into default to stop any likely conflicts later.
21:26 VanessaE (what to do with one crystal in the grid by itself - nip it in the bud)
21:26 Kacey anyone ever use mythbuntu
21:26 VanessaE Kacey: sorry, not I...but I've run MythTV under Ubuntu a few years ago
21:26 NakedFury mese are crystalized bones of long dead aliens invaders of the MineTest world
21:27 Kacey that got mixed with lava^
21:27 VanessaE haha
21:28 OldCoder kaeza, There is no bot
21:28 Kacey i guess i will download mythbuntu and try it
21:29 VanessaE damn it where is PilzAdam when I need him :-/
21:30 kaeza OldCoder: how so?
21:30 kaeza both auto?
21:30 OldCoder Yes
21:30 OldCoder Rechecking
21:30 OldCoder kaeza, I did /join and it said in the channel but once again no bot
21:31 * Kacey is going to go insane
21:31 OldCoder kaeza, in this case I am using ##mtopenmine and the world is port 30007 OpenMine
21:31 sdzen thanks you for doing this VanessaE
21:32 VanessaE ah you are here, good.
21:32 VanessaE is this sufficient?
21:32 sdzen yes
21:32 VanessaE ok good.
21:32 OldCoder kaeza, I am needed elsewhere. Indicate if you can comment. Page me.
21:32 sdzen its exactly what i asked of you
21:32 sdzen :P
21:32 VanessaE now no one can bitch, and to make it even better, everyone's stash of mese becomes 9x more valuable....and the value of a mese block drops by a tiny amount :-)
21:33 Kacey i wish i had my crafting mod
21:34 VanessaE sdzen: now, where the hell is PilzAdam at when I need him?
21:34 sdzen hmmm
21:34 Kacey it made it possible to make mese,nyan cat, and nyancatrainbow
21:34 sdzen i was asking that same thing a few weeks ago
21:34 VanessaE he's in and out a lot, probably spending time with family about now I guess
21:34 sdzen i find that as long as you need PilzAdam
21:34 sdzen he wont come
21:34 VanessaE lol
21:35 sdzen once i finally just dealt with it on my own
21:35 sdzen he came online
21:35 sdzen not joking
21:35 sdzen his timing was impeccable
21:36 Kacey keaza
21:36 Kacey kaeza
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21:37 VanessaE haha
21:37 Kacey what would the best puppy linux be?
21:38 VanessaE none, puppy is supposed to be a live install.  Use a debian-based distro like Mint 13.
21:39 Kacey im using a multi-boot system
21:39 VanessaE er live boot, e.g. not installed afaik.
21:39 Kacey afaik?
21:39 Exio as far as i know
21:40 Kacey ooh
21:41 Kacey what would you guys suggest for linux
21:42 sdzen arch or debian
21:42 sdzen :P
21:42 Kacey version?
21:42 sdzen whatever you wish
21:42 sdzen :P
21:42 Kacey hang on i have used debian before
21:42 Kacey only a command line
21:42 kaeza I wouldn't recommend arch for an user that takes his first steps on linux
21:43 Exio debian is easy
21:43 Exio and, for me, arch is more a toy than a real distro
21:43 kaeza either debian or *ubuntu
21:43 kaeza well any debian derivative
21:43 Kacey im going to try mythbuntu
21:44 VanessaE zzz
21:44 sdzen well ive seen omeone use arch as his first step
21:44 sdzen but
21:44 sdzen it was kinda a joke between me and the guys who stole his laptop
21:44 Kacey what is XFCE?
21:44 * kaeza throws a bucket of water at VanessaE
21:44 VanessaE XFCE is a ruling piece of software, that's what it is.
21:44 Exio kaeza: s/water/lava/!
21:44 VanessaE :_)
21:45 VanessaE AEII!!!
21:45 * VanessaE stands, dripping wet
21:45 VanessaE I'll get you back for that kaeza.
21:45 sdzen enlightenment is better :P
21:45 Kacey ruling piece of software?
21:45 Exio sdzen++
21:45 Exio e17 ftw!
21:45 kaeza Kacey:  are you looking for something lightweight?
21:45 davidpace joined #minetest
21:45 Kacey idk
21:45 VanessaE yes, as in it rules, it kicks ass, it's a good piece of software..and Iw as stuck for a good noun to use there :-)
21:45 davidpace Hello
21:46 * STHGOM gets a towel
21:46 kaeza hi davidpace
21:46 Kacey ooh
21:46 kaeza Kacey: you should use puppy linux
21:47 kaeza or debian / *ubuntu
21:47 kaeza OpenBox rulez!
21:47 Kacey what puppy linux should i use?
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21:48 marktraceur Kacey: Trisquel GNU/Linux is pretty great.
21:48 STHGOM hello
21:48 kaeza Kacey: I recommend mainstream puppy (i.e plain puppy), but others like Wary, Slacko, Lucid are good
21:48 sdzen I like Netrunner and Solusos
21:48 sdzen SolusOs is more lightweight i believe
21:49 markveidemanis l
21:49 Kacey which one had 8 desktops kaeza
21:49 kaeza Kacey: the 8 desktops was a joke, I only have 2. But you can theoretically do it in Puppy/IceWM
21:49 Kacey ooh
21:50 markveidemanis [20:40] <@marktraceur> Probably a few hacks I need to upload?
21:50 markveidemanis haha middle click is paste
21:50 * marktraceur has 15 desktops on a Debian GNU/Linux install at home
21:50 sdzen if your talking about virtual desktops I have seen someone use 26
21:50 kaeza markveidemanis: nicholascageyoudontsay.png
21:51 john_minetest my first linux install was gentoo. got half through the installation progress but then i got stuck. then i tried sabayon. sabayon is quite nice but it didn't support compiling stuff for arduino. now i am using arch. easy.
21:51 sdzen slackware is rather good and not very hard to install/use
21:52 Kacey how aout DSL (damn small linux)
21:52 sdzen they got an update recently actually
21:52 * kaeza thinks marktraceur may go insane one of these days being in 30 channels at once, having 15 desktops, and 48 tabs open in firefox :)
21:52 sdzen so that may be a good choice
21:52 john_minetest dsl or tcl aren't for normal desktop use.
21:53 john_minetest they are web based, you install everything from the web when you need it.
21:54 marktraceur kaeza: I keeep firefox surprisingly well-trimmed :)
21:54 Kacey well i am downloading the ubuntu 12.10 and lucid puppyy isos now
21:54 marktraceur kaeza: And the 30 channels are mostly just idling
21:54 marktraceur Kacey: Strongly suggest you consider Trisquel 5.5 over Ubuntu
21:55 Kacey alright ill check that out also
21:55 OldCoder ruskie, PM if you stop by
21:55 john_minetest this stupid .NET takes hours to install :(
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21:55 OldCoder john_minetest, Did you do glow mod initially?
21:56 OldCoder Dogzilla131, your dirt uses are in my worlds
21:56 Dogzilla131 thanks
21:56 VanessaE Dogzilla131:  and my server :-)
21:56 OldCoder Dogzilla131, and you and your sister can choose from multiple 2D and 3D avatars now. I still owe her a new dog.
21:56 Kacey cannot find trisquel
21:56 Dogzilla131 thanks
21:57 kaeza1 joined #minetest
21:58 Kacey Dogzilla131 what does your dirt mod do?
21:58 john_minetest OldCoder: Yes, i wrote the first version.
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22:01 OldCoder john_minetest, zeg9 made a fix I think
22:01 OldCoder But did not mention where it was
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22:02 john_minetest it fixes the light bug iirc
22:03 Kacey OldCoder
22:05 STHGOM XD
22:05 Kacey what linux do you use
22:06 markveidemanis how do i craft technic red power crystal?
22:06 Kacey ask RealBadAngel
22:07 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, http://www.multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/viewmod.php?id=42
22:07 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: View mod - Technic - Minetest Mods
22:08 markveidemanis k
22:08 RealBadAngel simpler to use UI with craft guide
22:10 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3933
22:10 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: [mod] Unified Inventory [0.9] [unifiedinventory] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
22:11 kaeza1 OldCoder: fixed bug & pushed. tested again and seems to do the right job now. test again when you have the time
22:12 VanessaE Unified Inventory seriously rocks :-)
22:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: by the way: default creative inventory now has infinite blocks.  you should examine it.
22:14 RealBadAngel what does mean "infinite" ?
22:14 RealBadAngel mod that does zilions of nodes?
22:14 Exio you don't need to 'refill' your inventory with blocks
22:14 VanessaE as in you drag a block from the creative inventory at left to your regular inventory at right, and it keeps giving blocks as you use it
22:14 Exio like creative in minecraft
22:14 VanessaE it never runs out, and has no number either.
22:15 VanessaE you should do the same with your Unified Inventory
22:15 VanessaE (and indeed, the "refill" field becomes unnecessary :-)
22:15 RealBadAngel i treat creative as test place
22:15 RealBadAngel so expect items to behave like in surrival
22:16 VanessaE ah
22:16 markveidemanis can i have a step by step guide on getting red dye plz?
22:16 RealBadAngel anyway creative is instantly deleted when im updating minetest_game ;)
22:17 RealBadAngel find a rose and grind it
22:17 markveidemanis rose... ok
22:17 RealBadAngel all recipes are on the page or aviable ingame thx to UI
22:17 VanessaE markveidemanis: make bottles from glass.  harvest roses and cook them to get red pigment.  Harvest jungle grass.  get a bucket of water.  craft 6 bottles, one jungle grass, one bucket of water -> 6 bottles of dye base.   craft the red pigment you got when you cooked the flower, with one bottle of dye base -> one bottle of red dye.
22:18 RealBadAngel http://technic.kosyak.info/
22:18 moltenbot RealBadAngel's link: Techic recipe list
22:18 RealBadAngel heres also new technic site, under construction
22:18 VanessaE ^^^ mine is the method used in unified dyes.
22:19 john_minetest where do i get wool from in the default game?
22:19 VanessaE you don't - it has no crafting recipe.
22:19 john_minetest there should be one.
22:19 RealBadAngel farmin mod has recipes for it
22:19 VanessaE you have to use /giveme or creative inventory, or install a mod that gives you such.
22:20 VanessaE indeed, farming will do that
22:20 OldCoder kaeza1, I will go on a short walk and then test
22:20 RealBadAngel you can grow cotton and collect strings
22:20 OldCoder BTW Does this poll matter?
22:20 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59079
22:20 moltenbot OldCoder's link: [Poll] Respected Community Members (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
22:20 OldCoder ?
22:20 OldCoder And
22:20 RealBadAngel and then craft wool
22:20 kaeza1 OldCoder: np, just test when you have time :)
22:20 OldCoder I have put Jordach's xmas mod on my worlds?
22:20 OldCoder Would somebody like to try it so I can screenshot?
22:20 john_minetest quote: "Please note, that this is not a popularity contest at heart, just a way of spreading compliments."
22:20 * OldCoder will return in a few minutes
22:20 OldCoder john_minetest, compliments can boost spirits
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22:22 kaeza anyone has any idea why my 3G usb modem switches to EDGE after 20-30 mins of connecting?
22:24 Kacey spotify:track:63qPlpT3S35NXJtiLTxkxY
22:25 Kacey wow
22:25 Kacey 753 mb iso takes less time to download than a 133mb
22:27 Kacey hey vanessaE
22:27 VanessaE hm?
22:27 Kacey do you still have my custom player skin?
22:27 VanessaE nope, looks like I lost it :-/
22:28 Kacey darn
22:28 Kacey ill make a new one
22:28 VanessaE (act of stupidity on my part a couple weeks ago)
22:28 Kacey i wonder...
22:30 VanessaE ?
22:30 Kacey could i be a wolf?
22:31 VanessaE you can be whatever as long as the skin fits the normal Minetest model.
22:31 VanessaE one of the guys is a panda :-)
22:31 Kacey but i mean like have a wolf character
22:31 Kacey that walks on 4 legs
22:31 VanessaE no
22:31 Kacey darn
22:31 VanessaE that requires a mod that doesn't exist yet.
22:32 Kacey yet
22:32 VanessaE e.g. a wolf model + skin + code to make it work.
22:32 VanessaE so no, you'll have to stick to normal player skins
22:32 Kacey ooh
22:33 john_minetest we have got a pig model. we could replace the player model by the pig model, add a skin and everybody would be a pig :D
22:33 VanessaE heh
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22:34 VanessaE jeija
22:36 STHGOM hi
22:37 STHGOM you're the person who made the thowing mod!
22:37 STHGOM :D
22:37 Kacey and mesecons
22:38 VanessaE mesecons +1000 :-)
22:39 STHGOM :D
22:39 RealBadAngel VanessaE, cutting one big oak gave me 5236 leaves and 253 tree nodes
22:40 RealBadAngel you still want them to fall as entities? :)
22:40 Jeija Mesecons is now 1 year old; Happy Birthday!
22:40 VanessaE holy shit
22:40 VanessaE happy birthday to mesecons :-)
22:40 * marktraceur wonders how much it's changed
22:40 marktraceur What's in mesecons now?
22:40 VanessaE marktraceur: come to my server to play with it.
22:40 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000
22:40 marktraceur Maybe later
22:40 VanessaE ok
22:40 marktraceur I'm ostensibly still working
22:41 Kacey VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ3RpNQ/player.png
22:41 VanessaE "ostensibly".  heh.
22:41 VanessaE Kacey: ok
22:41 Kacey made a new one
22:41 marktraceur Well, I've been a bit slower today, due to remoteness and some distractions
22:41 VanessaE Kacey: installed.  it will become active after my next server restart.
22:42 kaeza okay everyone. party calls :)
22:42 kaeza If I don't see you later, merry christmas to all!  I <3 you!
22:42 VanessaE same to you kaeza  :-)
22:42 Kacey merry christmas kaeza
22:43 markveidemanis Merry       Christmas!
22:44 marktraceur Happy solstice! :)
22:44 Kacey brb
22:50 Kacey joined #minetest
22:50 Kacey back
22:51 STHGOM mesecons = AWSOME!!!
22:51 STHGOM XD
22:51 STHGOM better that redstone
22:54 Kacey VanessaE
22:55 VanessaE hm?
22:55 codile yup, i also like that there are many things already integrated in mesecon. where you would need several extra mods in minecraft
22:56 Kacey nvm
22:57 * VanessaE neverminds...  of course I don't mind anyone anyways :-)
23:12 STHGOM bye
23:15 john_minetest gtg, bye
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23:18 noodric hi just wondering if someone can help with a mod install
23:25 * VanessaE waits patiently for PilzAdam to show up
23:25 VanessaE fuck christmas, I've a hot piece of code waiting to merge :D
23:26 marktraceur noodric: What's the trouble?
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23:27 iqualfragile hi
23:27 marktraceur iqualfragile: Hi!
23:30 noodric i have placed the worldedit mod in the suggested folders but it doesn't seem to work
23:30 noodric ubuntu
23:31 noodric i try to slash grant username worldedit but it is unrecognized
23:31 noodric is there anyway to tell that minetest has loaded a mod without trying a command?
23:35 iqualfragile see, ubuntucrap
23:35 iqualfragile on windows 8 that works flawless
23:36 OldCoder hey!
23:36 OldCoder VanessaE, But... Code IS Christmas!
23:36 OldCoder Christmas Every Day
23:36 OldCoder Is Code
23:36 marktraceur noodric: If you do /mods in minetest, you should be able to see if it's loaded
23:36 * OldCoder is back for Christmas Eve BTW
23:36 VanessaE damn it.  Is there a way to override an alias when crafting something?
23:36 marktraceur noodric: Also keep in mind that you need to restart the game to load the mod
23:38 marktraceur iqualfragile: Clearly something else is happening, it's not the OS that's the issue.
23:39 iqualfragile but it works under windows8!
23:39 marktraceur iqualfragile: You said that already--that doesn't help solve the issue.
23:41 noodric oh shoot. it says it is loaded.
23:42 marktraceur noodric: So now, what's the command that you're running?
23:42 noodric but i cant grant the worldedit priv
23:42 VanessaE anyone?
23:42 noodric i can't do //ps1
23:42 noodric pod1
23:42 noodric pos1
23:43 noodric i thought you have to go /grant USERNAME worldedit
23:43 marktraceur noodric: Try doing /grant singleplayer all
23:44 noodric ok it lists a bunch of things but not worldedit
23:44 marktraceur noodric: Then try /grant singleplayer worldedit
23:44 OldCoder Dogzilla said he updated dirt uses but it still says 0.3
23:44 noodric unknown privelidge
23:44 OldCoder Am I missing something?
23:45 Jeija http://ompldr.org/vZ3RpeA/serverlist.jpg that server list could be merged from https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-serverlist
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23:46 iqualfragile Jeija: looks good, maybee you should try #minetest-dev
23:47 marktraceur noodric: Can you link me to where you downloaded the mod? I can't find it.
23:48 Kacey joined #minetest
23:48 noodric http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=572
23:48 moltenbot noodric's link: [Mod] WorldEdit [0.5] [worldedit] {GitHub} - Complete rewrite (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
23:48 Kacey Jeija
23:49 Jeija yes, Kacey?
23:49 Kacey how do i get a diode gate to work
23:49 iqualfragile ah, btw: wich is your favorite shell? bash, zsh, sh :D, whateverz?
23:49 marktraceur noodric: What's your username on the server in question?
23:49 marktraceur noodric: And what are your privileges?
23:50 noodric AOI
23:50 noodric i created the game
23:50 Jeija What do you mean by "to work"?
23:50 marktraceur noodric: And hopefully you ran /grant AOI all ?
23:50 Kacey Jeija, can you please join this server? vanessae.mine.bz port 30000
23:51 noodric yes but it didn't add worldedit
23:56 marktraceur Well, I'm stumped. sfan5|OFF may have some ideas.
23:56 Jeija left #minetest
23:58 markveidemanis Everyone go on the Zegathon server
23:59 iqualfragile marktraceur, mauvebic, Jordach, rubenwardy just to make things clear: i am not using windows, im a linux-addict, i was just joking a bit :D
23:59 iqualfragile but im a bit disapointed, too, as you did not know that… yeah, well, whatever

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