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Time Nick Message
00:00 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, Hi
00:00 jordan4ibanez hi
00:00 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, Do you have a patch file for the change NekoGloop wanted
00:00 OldCoder I was very sorry that I didn't build it right away
00:00 jordan4ibanez what file
00:00 Taoki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwYiCgsfY8\
00:00 Taoki That's what RBA was talking about... we just did this test on his server :)
00:00 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, You are the one who did some type of animation change
00:00 OldCoder Is that correct?
00:01 jordan4ibanez I have no idea
00:01 jordan4ibanez taoki: windows build? :D
00:01 OldCoder He really wanted it
00:01 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, not yet, sfan5 is off
00:02 jordan4ibanez Can someone push that to the main repo?
00:02 RealBadAngel it will be pushed
00:03 RealBadAngel by now its on Taoki's git
00:03 jordan4ibanez It only took 2 years :P Finally, can each player have their own skin?
00:03 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, Yes
00:03 OldCoder 2D is coming now and Taoki has 3D
00:03 RealBadAngel even HD ones
00:03 jordan4ibanez Woot! Is this taken from the client?
00:03 Taoki jordan4ibanez: no more Windows here
00:03 kaeza back in action
00:04 jordan4ibanez As i mean by that is, player has a client skin, and then it's sent to the server, or does the server have their skin?
00:04 OldCoder https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/minetest/commit/37d6c3a2f19854caf6dfeb352cb9f6c50bb52757
00:04 RealBadAngel btw Taoki, have you fixed the issue with left hand ?
00:04 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, do you have that as a patch?
00:04 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, for 2D it is server side
00:05 jordan4ibanez No, you can't patch windows' client, you have to compile
00:05 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, are you talking to me?
00:05 OldCoder I simply need the source diff
00:05 OldCoder It existed a few weeks ago
00:05 jordan4ibanez Oldcoder: the source is now in celeron55's main repo
00:05 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, I need the diff
00:05 jordan4ibanez All you have to do is compile the latest git lol
00:05 OldCoder Because I am using LevelDB
00:06 OldCoder No
00:06 OldCoder I cannot do that
00:06 OldCoder Unless he has merged thexyz code
00:06 jordan4ibanez Then idk what to tell you
00:06 OldCoder Because I am using LevelDB
00:06 OldCoder It is simple
00:06 OldCoder wait
00:06 jordan4ibanez He has, it's been a week since he has
00:06 OldCoder This was done weeks ago
00:06 OldCoder Hmm?
00:06 OldCoder Go on
00:06 OldCoder LevelDB is merged into main?
00:06 kaeza Vanessa you here?
00:07 kaeza or there? :P --->
00:07 * RealBadAngel pokes VanessaE for signs of life
00:08 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, LevelDB is merged into main?
00:08 jordan4ibanez Oldcore: I'll be honest with you, i have no idea what you're talking about
00:08 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, I'll be honest with you.
00:08 OldCoder <jordan4ibanez> He has, it's been a week since he has
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00:09 OldCoder I am just asking you what you mean by that
00:09 kaeza1 FUCKING MODEM!!! AAAAARGH!!!
00:09 OldCoder <jordan4ibanez> He has, it's been a week since he has
00:09 OldCoder If the question is not clear never mind. But does this refer to LevelDB?
00:09 OldCoder I cannot use upstream unless it supports LevelDB as I have about 20 LevelDB worlds
00:10 OldCoder That is pretty simple
00:10 OldCoder
00:10 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/1db033478797f0c98afa53896fd7767d7566d69e
00:11 OldCoder R
00:11 OldCoder Yes
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00:11 OldCoder Is that available as a patch?
00:11 jordan4ibanez No
00:11 OldCoder NekoGloop dug one up I think
00:11 OldCoder I can't use it then
00:11 jordan4ibanez Then don't
00:12 RealBadAngel https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master
00:12 OldCoder There is a GitHub command for it though
00:12 OldCoder He quoted it
00:12 RealBadAngel i cant see there anythin bout levelDB
00:13 RealBadAngel is this pulled even?
00:13 OldCoder He is not in a good mood; was more helpful about this 3 weeks ago
00:13 OldCoder NekoGloop wanted that patch
00:13 OldCoder There is a way to get it from GitHub
00:13 OldCoder Looking it up now
00:13 RealBadAngel its not pulled
00:13 jordan4ibanez Why does he want a patch if he cannot compile?
00:14 OldCoder I am the one who will compile
00:14 OldCoder And I need a diff to do so
00:14 jordan4ibanez pull it
00:14 OldCoder Pull it where? I need a diff
00:14 RealBadAngel how have you merged it?
00:14 OldCoder There is a simple git command for this
00:14 OldCoder I am not merging
00:14 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/archive/master.zip
00:15 OldCoder That is not compatible with thexyz code
00:15 OldCoder I am using thexyz code
00:15 OldCoder Because I have 20 worlds with LevelDB
00:15 * OldCoder sighs
00:15 OldCoder If you are bored never mind. I am simply trying to help and keep a promise.
00:15 OldCoder It is a very simple matter.
00:16 OldCoder It is regrettable. We had the git diff command.
00:16 RealBadAngel oldcoder, please give me link to the repo containin the patch
00:16 OldCoder I think that is the commit above
00:16 OldCoder He seems to be talking about both the animation patch NekoGloop wanted and thexyz LevelDB code.
00:16 OldCoder Different things.
00:16 RealBadAngel yes
00:16 RealBadAngel im talkin DB
00:17 OldCoder Oh? Go on
00:17 RealBadAngel need the patch, or the repo that has it
00:18 OldCoder Oh
00:18 OldCoder One moment
00:18 RealBadAngel because i cannot find it
00:18 OldCoder Do you mean the LevelDB change? Or the other?
00:18 OldCoder I have LevelDB
00:18 RealBadAngel levelDB
00:18 OldCoder Wait
00:19 OldCoder https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git in db_backends branch
00:19 OldCoder There's about a 12 line change that is very simple which jordan4ibanez made
00:19 OldCoder That is what I am trying to get right now
00:19 OldCoder I promised NekoGloop
00:20 OldCoder to camera.cpp
00:20 OldCoder I may have it now
00:20 OldCoder
00:20 OldCoder --- minetest.old/src/camera.cpp
00:20 OldCoder +++ minetest/src/camera.cpp
00:20 OldCoder @@ -189,7 +189,7 @@
00:20 OldCoder
00:20 OldCoder if (m_digging_button != -1)
00:20 OldCoder {
00:20 OldCoder -       f32 offset = dtime * 3.5;
00:20 OldCoder +       f32 offset = dtime * 4.5;M
00:20 OldCoder
00:21 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, if you are able; is that familiar?
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00:21 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3147
00:21 OldCoder That patch is all I've needed
00:21 OldCoder R
00:21 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, hi
00:22 OldCoder Yes
00:22 jordan4ibanez Hi bulletrulz
00:22 bulletrulz u changed your name back to normal?
00:22 OldCoder I prefer to make diff files from the actual code. But I think I have the diff. jordan4ibanez
00:22 bulletrulz not T_A_N_K anymore lol
00:22 bulletrulz hi MiJyn
00:22 RealBadAngel damn
00:23 RealBadAngel i was asking for levelDB patch
00:23 RealBadAngel not for that animation
00:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, there is no patch
00:23 OldCoder It is in...
00:23 OldCoder https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git in db_backends branch
00:23 OldCoder If you wish that code
00:23 bulletrulz my damn internet IS FUCKING UP atleast its better then dial up1
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00:24 RealBadAngel it consists of a few patches
00:25 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what are you aiming for?
00:25 OldCoder Maybe I can help
00:25 RealBadAngel i quess we have to ask thexyz to prepare new one facing the current tree
00:25 OldCoder Yes
00:25 OldCoder jordan4ibanez seemed to be saying this was done
00:25 OldCoder But then said he did not understand me
00:25 bulletrulz hmm maybe its just a chrome thing cause its fast on opera
00:26 RealBadAngel he was talkin bout digging animations
00:26 RealBadAngel not the levelDB
00:26 OldCoder Sure?
00:26 OldCoder All right
00:26 OldCoder t y
00:26 OldCoder If I do switch to main eventually
00:26 OldCoder That will break all the clients; correct?
00:27 RealBadAngel it will break worlds
00:27 RealBadAngel i think
00:27 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, u have a server?
00:27 OldCoder Not worlds I hope
00:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, are there any upstream diffs you would recommend? I am preparing to build
00:28 jordan4ibanez No
00:28 bulletrulz oh
00:28 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, No to which?
00:28 RealBadAngel OldCoder, main changes are about to come
00:28 OldCoder I see
00:28 jordan4ibanez Yea, i have no players to play, lol
00:28 RealBadAngel Taoki's one is almost ready
00:28 OldCoder RealBadAngel, will main changes break worlds?
00:28 bulletrulz lol PS3 for christmas ! ;D fuck xbox lol
00:29 RealBadAngel we tested it today
00:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Go on
00:29 RealBadAngel no
00:29 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwYiCgsfY8&amp;feature=plcp
00:29 OldCoder No time for videos
00:29 RealBadAngel OldCoder, just watch
00:29 OldCoder No time for videos sorry
00:29 OldCoder Seriously
00:29 OldCoder but t y
00:29 RealBadAngel its about the changes
00:29 RealBadAngel you HAVE to see it
00:29 OldCoder Can you summarize?
00:29 babyface1031 i saw it i cant wait for it on the server
00:30 RealBadAngel yup
00:30 OldCoder Summarize then
00:30 RealBadAngel NO MORE 2D
00:30 OldCoder Hmm?
00:30 RealBadAngel its out, kicked, burried, burnt
00:30 RealBadAngel killed
00:30 OldCoder Does it support LevelDB?
00:30 RealBadAngel 3d comes on the stage
00:30 OldCoder <--- Needs that more
00:30 babyface1031 you see the legs move when ppl walk  and thier arm move when they dig
00:30 OldCoder What is server-client CPU load?
00:31 RealBadAngel havent noticed differences
00:31 OldCoder All right
00:31 OldCoder This will break clients. But not worlds?
00:31 RealBadAngel no
00:31 OldCoder All right
00:31 RealBadAngel but both clients and servers shall be updated
00:31 OldCoder Of course
00:32 RealBadAngel minetest_game too
00:32 RealBadAngel its a complex change
00:32 RealBadAngel protocol version has changed
00:32 OldCoder Already; yes
00:32 OldCoder I saw that
00:32 RealBadAngel so you wont be able to connect with older builds
00:32 bulletrulz minetest = more 3d = awesome
00:32 OldCoder All that is fine
00:33 OldCoder Right now I am checking for diffs that can be deployed today
00:33 OldCoder I am preparing to build
00:33 RealBadAngel hold on for the links
00:33 Muadtralk i still think 8 directional sprites would be better then 3d :|
00:33 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
00:34 RealBadAngel thats the engine tree
00:34 OldCoder Yes
00:34 OldCoder I know
00:34 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models
00:34 RealBadAngel and minetest_game
00:35 Octupus Beeeeeeeeeeeep
00:35 OldCoder Octupus, traffic coming?
00:35 jin_xi Hey RealBadAngel, Taoki: 3d looks grrreat!
00:35 Octupus No :)
00:35 RealBadAngel Muadtralk, hi. face the fact its 21st century ;)
00:35 RealBadAngel sprites are like dinosaurs ;)
00:35 bulletrulz I heard that open suse was bad os?
00:35 bulletrulz ;p;
00:37 babyface1031 hi Octups
00:38 * Muadtralk looks at calender
00:38 Muadtralk its covered in cute little kitty cats
00:38 Muadtralk copywrite 1999
00:38 Muadtralk :P
00:39 Muadtralk i like sprites
00:39 Taoki joined #minetest
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00:39 RealBadAngel wb Taoki
00:40 Octupus Hi babyface1031
00:40 OldCoder Dogzilla131, Taoki wb
00:40 OldCoder bulletrulz, it is indeed
00:40 Taoki thanks
00:40 Octupus Hi Dogzilla131
00:40 bulletrulz OldCoder, open suse isint good
00:41 bulletrulz lol I like fedora but im more of .deb type of guy
00:41 Muadtralk so why is it that 2D games are still so popular? they use sprites does that mean terraria is a dinosaur?
00:41 Muadtralk and with 8 directional sprites it can give a very good feeling of depth
00:42 harrison .deb4lyfe
00:42 bulletrulz terriria is not as populaer as people think
00:42 Muadtralk well i know people who like terraria so i used it as an example
00:42 harrison the future is ray tracing
00:43 harrison see spasim.org
00:43 jordan4ibanez The future is more cores
00:43 jordan4ibanez amd®
00:43 Muadtralk ray tracing I am fine with
00:45 bulletrulz jordan4ibanez, lol
00:45 Muadtralk on a related note anyone have the AMD bulldozer?
00:45 Muadtralk or whatever its called
00:47 RealBadAngel inventory images handling in minetest is fucked up ^2
00:47 RealBadAngel its insane to get the proper images for all the possibilities
00:48 RealBadAngel some objects have it, some dont
00:48 RealBadAngel some have tiles, some animations
00:49 Dogzilla131 How to you use Town Test
00:49 bulletrulz lol im lauging at this twiglt movie my sister is watching
00:49 RealBadAngel person responsible for this situation shall be kicked in the ass in public place
00:50 RealBadAngel its a fuckin mess just
00:51 bulletrulz the guy gets hes head choped off and shes like omg that didnt happen in the book im like this is hillarous
00:51 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hmm?
00:51 OldCoder Oh!
00:51 OldCoder K
00:52 Octupus Tell I'm a beast
00:52 OldCoder Beast?
00:52 Octupus Ima dog let me of ma leash now
00:52 OldCoder Off leash?
00:52 Octupus Yes
00:52 OldCoder I do not follow
00:52 OldCoder Bark?
00:52 bulletrulz ;p
00:52 Octupus I Is a song :)
00:52 OldCoder Ah
00:52 RealBadAngel me neither
00:52 Octupus *it
00:53 jordan4ibanez http://phys.org/news/2011-01-scientists-cores-chip.html AMD 2015
00:53 RealBadAngel octupus, are you sure you talkin english?
00:55 RealBadAngel jordan4ibanez, CPU is not enough
00:55 RealBadAngel memory should follow
00:55 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, AMD 2016 http://servers.findthebest.com/l/213/Fujitsu-Primergy-RX900-S2
00:55 bulletrulz w0w j4i
00:55 Octupus I am English RealBadAngel
00:57 RealBadAngel but youre talkin like drunk carribean sailor
00:57 Octupus :3
00:58 OldCoder Does anybody have more mods they'd like added to my worlds?
00:58 RealBadAngel Report: technic update not ready
00:58 bulletrulz oldcoder u got a server
00:58 OldCoder bulletrulz, about 20
00:59 OldCoder Some of the worlds are quite lrge
00:59 OldCoder *large
00:59 bulletrulz :D
01:00 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/inv3.png
01:00 OldCoder R
01:00 RealBadAngel im stuck here
01:00 OldCoder Stuck how?
01:03 Dogzilla131 How to you get a chest to build in the mod Town Test
01:04 RealBadAngel some of the nodes have defined field "inventory_image"
01:04 RealBadAngel some dont
01:04 RealBadAngel some have tiles
01:04 RealBadAngel some have animation tiles
01:05 RealBadAngel engine handles that but not exposing the image to the lua
01:05 VanessaE_[L] evening all
01:05 RealBadAngel now tryin to recreate this in LUA
01:05 * VanessaE_[L] pokes RealBadAngel, OldCoder, Octupus, and whoever else
01:05 OldCoder Hi
01:06 OldCoder VanessaE, do you know if upstream has LevelDB yet?
01:06 RealBadAngel VanessaE, when i will poke you, you gonna fell from your chair
01:06 RealBadAngel be ready
01:06 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwYiCgsfY8&amp;feature=plcp
01:06 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, it does not.
01:07 OldCoder VanessaE, t y
01:07 RealBadAngel click, watch, fell
01:07 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, make a proper patch and issue a pull request
01:07 OldCoder VanessaE, can I assume there are no more diffs for me to use
01:07 OldCoder VanessaE, Make a patch how? It is not my change
01:07 OldCoder It is part of the existing thexyz codebase
01:07 VanessaE_[L] none of the dev team is gonna touch it until then
01:07 OldCoder Then I will need to fork
01:07 OldCoder Because it is not my code
01:07 * OldCoder shrugs
01:07 VanessaE_[L] right
01:07 OldCoder I don't have a patch
01:08 OldCoder I will attempt to make patches now in the other direction
01:08 OldCoder Perhaps there are things I can use from upstream
01:08 RealBadAngel VanessaE_[L], are you watching?
01:08 VanessaE_[L] barely.
01:09 RealBadAngel so focus please
01:09 RealBadAngel this is a great day for minetest
01:09 VanessaE_[L] the youtube video?
01:09 RealBadAngel yes
01:10 * VanessaE_[L] watches.
01:10 Octupus I yes VanessaE_[L] and hello
01:10 VanessaE_[L] Taoki|away, te arms need to move too.
01:10 VanessaE_[L] oh they do.
01:11 VanessaE_[L] move them more, then (when walking)
01:11 VanessaE_[L] :-)
01:11 RealBadAngel how do you like it?
01:11 VanessaE_[L] I like it a lot in fact.
01:12 VanessaE_[L] I assume the player model will eventually be shown holding the tool/item?
01:12 RealBadAngel yes
01:12 RealBadAngel that im supposed to do tommorow
01:12 VanessaE_[L] niced
01:12 VanessaE_[L] nice
01:12 RealBadAngel code is here already
01:12 Octupus So we know who holds te lava b4 grief :)
01:13 RealBadAngel need to apply it just
01:13 VanessaE_[L] Octupus, indeed.
01:13 RealBadAngel when you will see the player you gonna see what hes holding
01:13 VanessaE_[L] yes
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01:14 VanessaE_[L] so when is this going into mainstream, and do we need to go to c55's house and hold him down to force the code in? ;-)
01:14 RealBadAngel hehhe
01:14 RealBadAngel exactly
01:14 VanessaE_[L] suggestion: put the warping back in the knees/elbows
01:15 VanessaE_[L] make the model bend its legs/arms, differentiate it from MC
01:15 RealBadAngel it can be tweaked
01:15 RealBadAngel most important is that it works
01:15 VanessaE_[L] yes
01:16 OldCoder Doc22, I am updating
01:16 Doc22 oh awesome
01:16 RealBadAngel and my patch that c55 and others were complaing too
01:17 Doc22 so the server will VanessaE I like that idea
01:17 OldCoder VanessaE, RealBadAngel would either of you know commit links I could look at for useful fixes?
01:17 Doc22 wait forget "so the server will"
01:17 Doc22 lol
01:17 VanessaE_[L] RealBadAngel, can you guys separate this into a patch I can apply against current git master?
01:18 VanessaE_[L] I'd like to give it a shot...  does it depend on a new server protocol?
01:18 RealBadAngel yes
01:18 VanessaE_[L] damn.
01:18 RealBadAngel hold on
01:18 VanessaE_[L] = I can't use it yet.
01:18 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models
01:18 VanessaE_[L] :(
01:19 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
01:19 VanessaE_[L] I'll wait for it to hit upstream.
01:19 RealBadAngel the trees are up to date
01:20 RealBadAngel all the latest commits are in
01:20 bulletrulz :
01:20 VanessaE_[L] I'm too lazy to compile it right now anyway (plus I'm on the laptop, it wouldn't make for a fair demo :-) )
01:20 VanessaE_[L] are we gonna finally give MT a new version number?  maybe just 0.4.4 ?
01:20 VanessaE_[L] THIS definitely NEEDS it.
01:21 RealBadAngel server is running all the time here
01:21 VanessaE_[L] enough of this confusion bullshit from other users who can't figure out one 0.4.3 git build from another :-)
01:21 OldCoder I am going through all the changes to upstream
01:22 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205 : 30000
01:22 RealBadAngel feel free to join
01:22 VanessaE_[L] RealBadAngel, what about the version number?
01:22 VanessaE_[L] you guys gonna bump it to 0.4.4 or so?
01:22 RealBadAngel not up to me
01:23 bulletrulz lol YOU KNOW that one show minefreaj
01:23 RealBadAngel but i think such change deserves it
01:23 bulletrulz minefreak
01:23 VanessaE_[L] RealBadAngel, submit a patch against the models branch to bump the version number then
01:23 VanessaE_[L] Taoki|away, you seeing this?
01:24 RealBadAngel shes away i think
01:24 VanessaE_[L] ph ok
01:24 VanessaE_[L] oh**
01:25 VanessaE_[L] ok, so YOU do it :-)
01:25 RealBadAngel we will do that tommorow
01:25 RealBadAngel before pulling
01:25 VanessaE_[L] do it now
01:25 VanessaE_[L] don't wait on it,
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01:26 RealBadAngel i want to add holding items before pulling
01:26 VanessaE_[L] ok
01:26 RealBadAngel we have whole sunday to do that
01:26 VanessaE_[L] heh
01:27 RealBadAngel and would like to test all together a bit
01:28 RealBadAngel and maybe i will make one small patch to inventory_image btw
01:29 RealBadAngel so i will be freed of recreating it in lua
01:29 RealBadAngel its already done in c++
01:30 VanessaE_[L] ok
01:31 RealBadAngel theres no point for user to run around and recreate something that is already in the engine
01:31 RealBadAngel just not exposed
01:31 VanessaE_[L] right
01:33 RealBadAngel oke doke
01:33 RealBadAngel im heading to bed right now
01:34 RealBadAngel need some sleep
01:34 VanessaE_[L] I look forward to seeing these changes hit mainstream.
01:34 VanessaE_[L] nooooooooo
01:34 RealBadAngel noooo to what?
01:34 VanessaE_[L] bed
01:34 RealBadAngel bed is good. bed is your best friend
01:34 VanessaE_[L] I just got up not long ago :-)
01:35 RealBadAngel im awake for 20 hrs by now
01:35 RealBadAngel i need it badly ;)
01:36 VanessaE_[L] ok, go sleep :-)
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01:36 RealBadAngel i need circa 4 hrs
01:37 RealBadAngel not much i think
01:37 VanessaE_[L] ok
01:38 RealBadAngel during the week, after work i mean i need 6hrs of sleep
01:39 VanessaE_[L] yeah yeah, excuses ;)
01:39 VanessaE_[L] go to bed :-)
01:39 RealBadAngel :P
01:39 OldCoder VanessaE, I am merging some upstream patches
01:39 RealBadAngel im off, be back soon enough
01:39 VanessaE_[L] good night rba
01:56 Dogzilla131 Is cloud breakable
01:57 Dogzilla131 a cloud block
01:57 Dogzilla131 yes or no
01:59 VanessaE_[L] no
01:59 kaeza1 joined #minetest
01:59 VanessaE_[L] not without some tool designed to destroy it.
01:59 Dogzilla131 really
01:59 kaeza1 night
01:59 kaeza1 hello
01:59 VanessaE_[L] hi
02:00 Dogzilla131 ohh like a mining laser
02:00 Dogzilla131 hi
02:00 kaeza1 what's up Vanessa?
02:00 VanessaE_[L] kaeza1, not much
02:00 VanessaE_[L] Dogzilla131, yeah, I guess so.
02:00 kaeza1 hey Dog
02:00 VanessaE_[L] wonder if an admin pick (maptools) will work?
02:00 Dogzilla131 hi kaeza
02:01 Dogzilla131 a minig laser does break clodblock i  checked
02:02 VanessaE_[L] what's a clod block? ;)
02:02 OldCoder cloud?
02:02 * VanessaE_[L] hands Dogzilla131 the 'u' he dropped.
02:02 OldCoder No other mod changes?
02:02 OldCoder VanessaE, care to suggest mods?
02:02 Dogzilla131 i mean cloud
02:02 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, nothing new from my end.
02:02 OldCoder VanessaE, today we will have Dogzilla131 More Flags, Secret Passages, and Unified Bricks
02:02 OldCoder Any others in general?
02:03 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, well, actually yeah there is - I made recent tweaks to flowers to not grow on dirt, and only grow when there's daylight,
02:03 VanessaE_[L] (roughly 5am to 7pm in the game)
02:03 OldCoder flowers mod is ready ?
02:03 OldCoder Should update it?
02:03 VanessaE_[L] yeah.
02:03 OldCoder t y
02:03 OldCoder will do shortly
02:04 VanessaE_[L] no, NOW dammit :D
02:04 OldCoder k
02:04 OldCoder Proceeding
02:04 VanessaE_[L] just kidding :D
02:04 OldCoder k
02:04 OldCoder Building new server
02:04 VanessaE_[L] you gonna set one up that uses the 3d players patch:
02:04 VanessaE_[L] ?
02:04 OldCoder VanessaE, yes
02:05 OldCoder 2D also
02:05 VanessaE_[L] is there any bandwidth left for it? ;)
02:05 OldCoder I mean 2D avatars
02:05 OldCoder Yes
02:05 OldCoder Activity remains low
02:05 OldCoder Could not handle all the worlds busy at once
02:05 OldCoder And those mese machines
02:05 OldCoder Are too machine
02:05 OldCoder The duplicators
02:05 VanessaE_[L] heh
02:06 OldCoder VanessaE, flowers updated and will appear in restart
02:06 VanessaE_[L] ok
02:07 kaeza VanessaE: I'll try the flowers
02:07 OldCoder VanessaE, do you have something similar to: http://minetest.org/player.png you would like to use for yourself?
02:07 OldCoder kaeza, will appear in the next hour
02:07 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, not at present.  it will be some time before I make an avatar for myself.
02:07 OldCoder k
02:08 kaeza Dogzilla need some help with moreflags?
02:09 kaeza Also Vanessa, I updated the computer mod and added the Amiga 500 (almost)
02:12 OldCoder U.S. worlds are going down for updates
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02:13 sokomine re
02:13 sokomine compiling the 3d-version...
02:13 VanessaE_[L] hey sokomine
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02:13 sokomine vanessa: do you know what impact flowers+bushes have on servers? i like them a lot, but together with 4seasons it was too much for one server
02:14 * VanessaE_[L] grumbles at her PC's piece of crap wireless antenna
02:14 * sokomine preferes wired connections :-)
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02:14 VanessaE_[L] afaik, bushes and flowers add practically nothing.
02:14 VanessaE_[L] in terms of CPU I mean
02:14 sokomine hm
02:14 VanessaE_[L] seasons is a CPU hog though
02:15 VanessaE_[L] sokomine, I'm on the laptop, hence wireless to the PC.
02:15 sokomine yes, i know. with 4seasons the server went fine. after adding flowers+bushes+farming it was somehow too much
02:15 sokomine difficult to find out what really causes lag though
02:17 sokomine in order to make it run together with 4seasons i had to modifiy the abms so that instead of normal grass the 4season-grasses where suitable for flowers as well. does that have an impact or is that neglible?
02:18 VanessaE_[L] should be negligible
02:19 sokomine ok
02:20 sokomine oh :-( no one left at realbadangles server
02:21 VanessaE_[L] bummer :(
02:21 * sokomine wants to see the new 3d playre
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02:23 sokomine ah, hm, and another point: does anybody know if when add_node is used the function on_placenode will be called?
02:24 VanessaE_[L] it is not, afaik
02:24 * sokomine points to vanessas wired (and faster?) computer for compiling and running the 3d stuff
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02:24 sokomine ok. thus the signs are incompatible with skyblock. unless they are changed to place_node perhaps?
02:25 VanessaE_[L] I'm also watching a movie right now :-)
02:25 sokomine :-)
02:27 VanessaE_[L] aw, I missed him :(
02:27 Octupus NO KIDS NO AIDS
02:28 VanessaE_[L] ??
02:28 Octupus Stupid aids why can't it get cancer and die
02:28 VanessaE_[L] wtf are you talking about?
02:29 Octupus HIV / Aids
02:29 VanessaE_[L] yeah I got that.
02:30 VanessaE_[L] what's that got to do with anything?
02:30 VanessaE_[L] (why the sudden mention of it?)
02:31 Octupus I saw it on tv just now
02:31 VanessaE_[L] oh.
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02:34 OldCoder anunakki, wb
02:39 VanessaE_[L] you know, if I had any sense at all, I'd run a minetest server on my PC and just let the laptop connect to it instead of running it all on the laptop,
02:39 OldCoder Octupus or anybody else will you help me with a test?
02:39 babyface1031 hi guys
02:39 babyface1031 i can try OldCoder
02:39 OldCoder babyface1031, k I need about 5 minutes
02:39 VanessaE_[L] hey babyface1031
02:39 Octupus I dont have pc but I can help in another way
02:40 Octupus Hi babyface1031
02:40 babyface1031 ok
02:40 Octupus VanessaE_[L]: Why the exta L
02:40 VanessaE_[L] laptop.
02:40 babyface1031 what am i testing
02:40 Octupus O
02:41 VanessaE_[L] so I don't have to sign the PC off when I get on over here.
02:41 VanessaE_[L] babyface1031, trying out the 3d models branch? :-)
02:41 OldCoder babyface1031, is your nick on 30004 babyface1031 exactly?
02:41 babyface1031 babyface1031a
02:41 OldCoder k
02:41 VanessaE_[L] what's the 1031 for anyway?
02:42 babyface1031 when i first was seting up a email i tryed just babyface it was taken then i added a 1 that was taken and so
02:42 Octupus I
02:42 VanessaE_[L] gotchya.
02:43 babyface1031 then i relized it was halloween and i loved halloween so i kept it cause i ment to type 1013 first
02:43 Octupus OldCoder: Are we trying the 3d players
02:43 OldCoder 2D
02:43 OldCoder 3D will need more work
02:43 sokomine vanessa: splitting server and client up is something i've considered as well. it seems the client already needs a lot of ressources and doesn't leave much for the server on singleplayer. mods seem to have a far greater influence on performance than weather the server's running on the same machine or is a multiplayer server elsewhere (to my experience)
02:43 sokomine oldcoder: why not test on realbadangles server?
02:43 Octupus O you mean the 1 by pilzadamn
02:43 OldCoder sokomine, Europe? Sure but later
02:43 OldCoder Octupus, yep
02:44 VanessaE_[L] sokomine, well my point in this case is the PC has plenty of grunt to run the bigger mods, and the laptop is fairly anemic, so why not right? :-)
02:44 Octupus O
02:44 sokomine vanessa: well, try it :-)
02:44 VanessaE_[L] I'm about to.
02:45 OldCoder Octupus, babyface1031 join me on 30004
02:45 OldCoder TP to me
02:45 babyface1031 ok
02:45 sokomine what are you testing, oldcoder?
02:45 OldCoder sokomine, Personalized 2D avatars
02:46 OldCoder 3D will also be added
02:46 OldCoder babyface1031, TP to me
02:46 Octupus OldCoder: iPod :(
02:46 OldCoder oh
02:46 OldCoder babyface1031, ?
02:46 babyface1031 ok still loding
02:46 OldCoder sokomine, You are there
02:46 babyface1031 loading*
02:46 OldCoder sokomine, what do I look like?
02:46 sokomine yes, logging on right now. mom
02:46 Octupus Do u have teamviewer oc
02:46 sokomine not yet there...still connecting
02:46 * anunakki yawns
02:46 anunakki hello people
02:46 babyface1031 minetest on my computer crash hold on
02:47 anunakki whaaaat
02:47 Octupus OldCoder: U got teamviewer
02:47 OldCoder Yes but not easy to use
02:47 OldCoder I have Linux
02:47 Octupus O
02:47 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, ok, how do I configure the server so that "I" am the admin thereof?
02:47 OldCoder VanessaE, ?
02:47 VanessaE_[L] (e.g as VanessaEzekowitz, let's say)
02:47 OldCoder VanessaE, explain
02:47 Octupus Because I was going to ask if I cud watch your screen
02:47 OldCoder Go on
02:48 OldCoder Octupus, yes but not tonight; too tricky to set up
02:48 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, running a local server,
02:48 OldCoder Go on
02:48 OldCoder Octupus, actually I would have people use rdesktop
02:48 OldCoder That will let both Windows and Linux see my desktop
02:48 OldCoder It works
02:49 OldCoder babyface1031, hold still
02:49 Octupus I am on iPod
02:49 babyface1031 ok
02:49 OldCoder sokomine, yes
02:49 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, if I run a local server, mostly for my own use, how do I configure it to know that "VanessaEzekowitz" is the admin thereof when I sign into it from a client?
02:49 Octupus So I think it doesn't have to much complications
02:49 OldCoder sokomine, textures will need work
02:49 OldCoder VanessaE, name = VanessaE... right?
02:49 VanessaE_[L] (imagine if I wanted to run it for other people to connect to some day)
02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, name = VanessaE... right?
02:50 VanessaE_[L] no, as above :-)
02:50 VanessaE_[L] with my full name.
02:50 OldCoder VanessaE, I am in the game; hold on t  y
02:51 OldCoder Back
02:51 OldCoder Dogzilla131, babyface1031 sokomine thank you!
02:51 babyface1031 np
02:51 OldCoder The textures won't be great but they are just a start
02:51 Octupus Oc may I have your ip and pass on pm
02:51 OldCoder Octupus, PM
02:51 sokomine i did that nodebox-model for players (roughly the shape of the green playerimages and that on redcrabs server), but most players seem to prefer individual images (well, mine doesn't have textures...)
02:53 babyface1031 so did i look different?
02:53 OldCoder babyface1031, You were Hunger Games
02:53 OldCoder sokomine, how did she look?
02:53 sokomine yes, you looked diffrent from oldcoder. how did i look like?
02:53 OldCoder sokomine, I didn't know you were coming so did not make one for you yet
02:53 OldCoder That was a test
02:53 sokomine well...maybe like a guard...legs spread, arms spread...
02:54 OldCoder I will add a few more
02:54 sokomine i hope we'll get the 3d version soon. that looks really great :-)
02:55 OldCoder Yes
02:56 Octupus Why are ppl with aids heros if they had unprotected sex with some1 who had aids :l
02:56 * sokomine dreams of grazing sheep
02:57 * Octupus say this aid thing on tv
02:57 VanessaE_[L] well that was easier than I thought.
02:57 VanessaE_[L] server on the PC, client on the laptop, no sweat.
02:57 Octupus :)
02:58 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi
02:58 Octupus Is it local and worldwide
02:58 VanessaE_[L] hey
02:58 OldCoder VanessaE, I just use name =
02:58 Octupus *or
02:58 OldCoder Doesn't that work?
02:58 VanessaE_[L] good question......
02:58 VanessaE_[L] someone wanna try it?
02:58 OldCoder I think I have
02:58 sokomine sure, why not. might be a test of your line :-)
02:59 VanessaE_[L] 24.181.193.82 port 30000, standard minetest client
02:59 VanessaE_[L] no idea if it'll work, but who knows. it's worth a try :-)
03:02 jordan4ibanez Server test is up
03:02 jordan4ibanez special super fast settings
03:03 Octupus Every getting servers now :D
03:03 VanessaE_[L] Octupus, I'm just testing for the sake of laptop<->PC reasons, but if you wanna try to connect, go for it :-)
03:04 Octupus I can't :(
03:04 Octupus There is no portable mt
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03:04 VanessaE_[L] oh ok, no prob
03:04 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=52923#p52923
03:05 * VanessaE_[L] shuts it down for the moment.
03:06 VanessaE_[L] there, that's permanent now, even if you all can't reach it, I can :D
03:09 sokomine oh...i was just considering visiting it
03:10 VanessaE_[L] go ahead and tru
03:10 VanessaE_[L] try*
03:10 VanessaE_[L] it's up.
03:10 sokomine ok. mom
03:10 jordan4ibanez I just realised
03:10 jordan4ibanez If you put copyrighted music, on a server, you're breaking the law when someone joins
03:11 Muadtralk yes
03:11 VanessaE_[L] sokomine, you're on!  cool
03:12 Muadtralk quite obvious isnt it?
03:12 sokomine well, everyone reports that i'm on while i still have to look at a black screen :-)
03:12 sokomine just 17% of media...waiting...
03:12 VanessaE_[L] oh ok
03:12 sokomine seems player joining is reported early on?
03:12 VanessaE_[L] there's a lot of mods installed.
03:12 sokomine good
03:12 VanessaE_[L] yeah, you're already standing at the spawn
03:13 sokomine oh. hm. what if someone starts communicating that early? does that get buffered?
03:13 VanessaE_[L] dunno
03:13 sokomine ah. familiar house
03:13 VanessaE_[L] well, when someone talks to YOU, it is cached,.
03:13 VanessaE_[L] hehe
03:15 jordan4ibanez Can you use minecraft skins with that 3d player specialty?
03:15 VanessaE_[L] yes
03:15 VanessaE_[L] rename the file but otherwise it works directly.
03:15 jordan4ibanez Holy shit
03:15 jordan4ibanez http://www.minecraftskins.com/
03:16 VanessaE_[L] sokomine, oops, client crash
03:17 Muadtralk it does?
03:17 Muadtralk damn
03:18 Muadtralk why was i trying to reinvent the wheel with my 3d_player template i was going to release
03:26 sokomine perhaps because the 3d is so new?
03:26 sokomine what does your template do?
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03:27 Doc22 OldCoder is the server up yet
03:27 sokomine ah, well, client crashed
03:27 Doc22 hmmmm
03:27 OldCoder Doc22, Hi
03:27 Doc22 hi
03:27 OldCoder Doc22, will be shortly; several changes
03:28 Doc22 ok
03:28 Doc22 adding the mods?
03:28 OldCoder Doc22, we have individual players now
03:28 OldCoder Done
03:28 Doc22 oh nice
03:28 OldCoder Will start 30004 now
03:28 Doc22 ok
03:28 Doc22 can you add players without restarting
03:28 Doc22 or do you have to restart
03:28 OldCoder I don't think so
03:28 OldCoder Doc22, 30004 is starting
03:28 OldCoder See what works and not
03:28 Doc22 idk what to make my avatar
03:29 Doc22 its loading
03:29 Doc22 the one i made looks stupid...
03:29 OldCoder No rush
03:29 Doc22 yeah
03:29 OldCoder You can paste the front and back I and can review
03:29 babyface1031 i want to see mine
03:29 Doc22 ok
03:29 OldCoder Making you one now babyface1031
03:30 OldCoder Better than the Hunger Games one
03:30 Doc22 i know it looks stupid though
03:30 OldCoder Doc22, I may be able to fix it
03:30 sokomine vanessa: please say something on your server
03:30 OldCoder babyface1031, it will take weeks to find pictures for people but I will make you one now
03:30 sokomine ah, too late. logged on again
03:30 Doc22 nah i need something else better
03:31 babyface1031 oh i thought i had one
03:31 OldCoder babyface1031, You did
03:31 OldCoder It was just a test
03:31 babyface1031 oh
03:31 OldCoder I will make a good one now
03:31 OldCoder About 15 minutes
03:31 babyface1031 ok
03:31 jordan4ibanez oldcoder
03:31 Doc22 oh you make avatars
03:31 Doc22 ?
03:31 jordan4ibanez why not make one big server rather than a bunch of smaller ones?
03:32 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, because everybody demands one of their own
03:32 Doc22 can you make me a mad engineer avatar
03:32 OldCoder Doc22, Yes
03:32 Doc22 YUS
03:32 Doc22 thanks
03:32 jordan4ibanez So what? Tell them to go on the big one
03:32 OldCoder Doc22, don't expect soon
03:32 Doc22 yeah no rush ;)
03:32 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, shrug
03:32 jordan4ibanez You'd basically be another redcrab, make a huge one DAMNIT
03:33 OldCoder jordan4ibanez, Everybody demands their own
03:33 OldCoder Besides
03:33 OldCoder Some of them I have from the forum
03:33 OldCoder They are already separate
03:33 jordan4ibanez Well i can see they don't care about the server
03:33 OldCoder I may try to merge some of them
03:34 sokomine yes, that might be a good idea. one thing that attracks players to a server are other players
03:35 OldCoder I will need a working version of WorldEdit and the help of the players
03:35 Doc22 oldcoder
03:35 OldCoder ?
03:35 Doc22 the new models are coming out soon
03:35 OldCoder k
03:36 Doc22 so if you want just forget the engineer one
03:36 Doc22 after all it wont be long
03:36 * OldCoder shrugs
03:36 sokomine hmm. i wouldn't do it through worldedit. hmm.
03:36 Doc22 and I can make good skinns if it is a model
03:36 sokomine what would happen if you'd copy one database entry from one world's database to that of another world?
03:36 Doc22 Im going to make mine like a ghost
03:36 Doc22 with the body fading away
03:37 Doc22 lol
03:37 Doc22 engineer
03:37 Doc22 will minecrap skins be usable with the new models
03:37 Doc22 lol
03:38 Doc22 I see the colored bricks loading
03:38 Doc22 they look nic
03:38 Doc22 nice
03:38 OldCoder k
03:38 OldCoder Backs of people are hard
03:39 Muadtralk ive already contributed 2 skins
03:39 Muadtralk :P
03:39 OldCoder Low res?
03:39 OldCoder Links?
03:39 Doc22 where are they
03:39 Muadtralk of course they are left over from the old ones i made a few months back
03:39 Doc22 and will minecraft skins be compatible
03:39 OldCoder I don't know
03:40 Muadtralk yes they should be
03:40 Doc22 :/
03:40 Doc22 :)
03:40 Muadtralk as long as the file is renamed
03:40 OldCoder Nearly done with babyface1031 this is hard
03:40 Muadtralk http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53419#p53419
03:40 Muadtralk scroll down
03:41 babyface1031 cool no rush
03:41 OldCoder Muadtralk, you aren't there
03:41 Muadtralk sdzen is my username :D
03:41 OldCoder I know
03:41 Muadtralk #152
03:41 Muadtralk and 151
03:41 Muadtralk see them now?
03:42 OldCoder No
03:42 OldCoder I see screenshots
03:42 OldCoder No 2D avatars or download links
03:42 OldCoder Are they there?
03:42 Muadtralk under the screenshot
03:42 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, later, I will have to bug you a bit about making sure this server runs right.    I teleported back 0,0,0 and the server started lagging like hell.  why>
03:42 VanessaE_[L] ?
03:43 VanessaE_[L] what did I miss>
03:43 OldCoder Muadtralk, I don't understand the format; it's pieces
03:43 OldCoder VanessaE, this is a normal server
03:43 OldCoder ?
03:43 OldCoder Where did you get the binary?
03:43 OldCoder What OS?
03:43 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, yep, run-of-the-mill server, built the binary myself, running in my usual linux install.
03:43 OldCoder Distro?
03:43 OldCoder Oh!
03:44 OldCoder VanessaE, are you using the optimized server settings?
03:44 OldCoder Hang on
03:44 VanessaE_[L] nope.
03:44 VanessaE_[L] never ran a server before :-)
03:44 OldCoder VanessaE, I need to give you my scripts
03:44 VanessaE_[L] so this is just whatever my client/server "game" was using before.
03:44 VanessaE_[L] ok, let's do that tomorrow
03:45 Doc22 babyface1031 did the server shut down for you?
03:45 babyface1031 yes
03:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest.conf
03:45 OldCoder VanessaE, ^
03:45 Doc22 it happened right when I pushed the button for the gate
03:45 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, let's work on it later.
03:45 Doc22 that must be a glitch with the protectors
03:45 babyface1031 oh i hope it wasnt the gate
03:45 Doc22 I pushed the button
03:45 OldCoder Doc22, it was this:
03:45 Doc22 what?
03:46 OldCoder 03:43:51: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaEr
03:46 OldCoder ...octuteam_game/mods/mesecons/mesecons_switch/init.lua:28:
03:46 OldCoder attempt to call global 'nodeupdate' (a nil value)
03:46 OldCoder I think I have a rough idea
03:46 Doc22 yeah
03:46 OldCoder builtin issue
03:46 babyface1031 i hope it wasnt my gate i like it
03:46 OldCoder probably
03:46 Doc22 :'(
03:46 OldCoder gate is fine
03:46 babyface1031 ok
03:46 OldCoder I think I know how to fix that
03:46 OldCoder Let me finish the avatar
03:46 Doc22 :)
03:46 OldCoder about 80% done
03:46 Doc22 cool
03:47 Doc22 I didnt realise you were making it right not
03:47 Doc22 now
03:47 Doc22 so thats why I said if you want, to ignore it
03:47 OldCoder Just hers right now; I better look at the crash
03:47 VanessaE_[L] seems okay after restarting the server.
03:51 OldCoder Done with avatar; checking crash
03:55 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, how exactly do I install mods that are specific to one world?  Will they get "added" to the global collection in .minetest/mods ?
03:55 OldCoder Hi
03:55 OldCoder Reviewing
03:56 OldCoder VanessaE, there are two ways to do this
03:56 OldCoder First: You can create a worldsmod folder in the world itself
03:57 OldCoder Second: You can create a game folder such as vanessa_game which one or more worlds may reference at startup time
03:57 OldCoder Rather
03:57 OldCoder worldmods
03:57 OldCoder The second is recommended
03:58 VanessaE_[L] ok, let's go through this tomorrow.
03:58 OldCoder as you wish
03:58 VanessaE_[L] I'm having some trouble keeping focused
03:58 OldCoder k
03:59 OldCoder Can I assume everybody who can comment on nodeupdate is gone?
04:02 OldCoder
04:02 OldCoder babyface1031, Doc22 while I look at the crash...
04:02 OldCoder I am restarting so you can see the first draft of babyface1031 texture
04:02 OldCoder tell me if it works
04:02 Doc22 ok
04:03 babyface1031 ok
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04:03 babyface1031 someone will have to show me cause i cant see myself
04:04 OldCoder Somebody can screenshot
04:04 OldCoder If it works
04:04 Doc22 ok
04:04 babyface1031 ok
04:04 Doc22 i will
04:04 sokomine node update? signs/add_node or something else?
04:04 OldCoder sokomine, there is a crash
04:05 OldCoder because they moved nodeupdate from init.lua to falling.lua
04:05 OldCoder I have falling.lua in builtin
04:05 OldCoder but nodeupdate is not found
04:05 sokomine ah. sorry. don't know about that one
04:05 Doc22 ahh
04:05 OldCoder I do not like changes D:
04:05 Doc22 lol
04:05 OldCoder Doc22, ?
04:05 Doc22 me neither
04:05 Doc22 I see the lua structure
04:05 Doc22 in my head
04:05 VanessaE_[L] bbiab.
04:05 Doc22 all of the methods
04:05 OldCoder How do I fix this D:
04:06 Doc22 can you give me the lua code in a zip
04:06 Doc22 ill fix it for you
04:06 OldCoder For which?
04:06 OldCoder I can give you everything
04:06 Doc22 yes
04:06 OldCoder Wait
04:06 Doc22 good idea
04:07 OldCoder http://minetest.org/builtin.zip
04:07 OldCoder That is the builtin folder
04:07 OldCoder http://minetest.org/octuteam_game.zip
04:08 OldCoder That is the complete current octuteam_game folder
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04:08 OldCoder You will see the default init.lua no longer contains nodeupdate
04:08 OldCoder but the falling lua does
04:08 OldCoder
04:08 OldCoder babyface1031, enter the game
04:08 babyface1031 i am in the game
04:08 OldCoder k
04:08 OldCoder Coming
04:10 Doc22 im taking screeny
04:10 Doc22 im uploading t
04:10 OldCoder I need to brighten her
04:10 OldCoder Doc22, aside from that what do you think?
04:10 Doc22 why is there a logo on it
04:10 Doc22 lol
04:11 OldCoder ?
04:11 OldCoder What logo?
04:11 OldCoder There is a small floating crescent
04:11 OldCoder Left over from clear
04:11 OldCoder I will erase it
04:11 Doc22 ok
04:11 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/babyfae.png
04:11 OldCoder How does she look?
04:11 Doc22 here it is
04:11 Doc22 looks good
04:12 OldCoder Oh!
04:12 babyface1031 i like:D
04:12 OldCoder I see the watermark
04:12 OldCoder I will remove it
04:12 OldCoder I thought that was part of the costume
04:12 OldCoder Will fix it
04:12 OldCoder Doc22, right now look at the ZIPs
04:13 OldCoder I am trying to figure out what to do with nodeupdate
04:13 Doc22 ok
04:13 Doc22 ill try and find out what is wrong
04:13 OldCoder babyface1031, she has a front and back; I will brighter her a bit; and I will remove the watermark
04:13 OldCoder *brighten
04:13 babyface1031 ok
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04:15 Doc22 ok and nodeupdate is normally where?
04:15 Doc22 oh init.lua
04:15 Doc22 or falling.lua
04:16 OldCoder Past: init.lua
04:16 OldCoder Future: falling.lua I gather
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04:17 Doc22_ aargh
04:19 Doc22_ vanessae, adding global to function definition (example: "global function foo") makes it available to all lua files correct
04:19 Doc22_ throughought the game
04:19 OldCoder https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/10dc2b30fbe34eeed85c01dabc615d0b64ca1cd5
04:19 OldCoder Doc22_, that is where they did it
04:19 OldCoder Doc22, ^
04:20 Doc22 ok
04:21 Doc22 im not sure if this will work
04:21 Doc22 but try adding global to the function definision
04:21 Doc22 definition
04:21 OldCoder Shouldn't they have already one this?
04:21 Doc22 global function nodeupdate(p)
04:21 Doc22 yeah they should have
04:21 OldCoder Why didn't they?
04:21 Doc22 but idk why they didnt
04:21 Doc22 or if this will work
04:21 Doc22 that is what I can think of
04:21 Doc22 what I know will work is this
04:22 Doc22 add the function to the lua file in mesecons
04:22 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, ok, your config is in place.
04:22 OldCoder k
04:22 OldCoder Doc22, restarting
04:22 OldCoder Doc22, press the button when in
04:22 Doc22 ok
04:22 Doc22 and, again, I am not certain this will work; I am not a lua pro
04:23 OldCoder Doc22, it won't work
04:23 OldCoder They didn't use global anywhere else either
04:23 Doc22 hmmm
04:23 Doc22 ok
04:23 OldCoder Try it anyway
04:23 Doc22 then you will need to add this function to the lua file in mesecons
04:23 OldCoder Wait
04:23 OldCoder No
04:23 OldCoder it is used in dozens of places
04:23 OldCoder That won't work either
04:23 Doc22 like where
04:23 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, so now mkdir worlds/worldname/mods ?
04:23 Doc22 where is it used
04:23 OldCoder No
04:24 OldCoder VanessaE, wait
04:24 OldCoder Doc22, dozens of places
04:24 Doc22 example...
04:24 OldCoder Doc22, I will need to revert the #*#* change
04:24 Doc22 ok
04:24 OldCoder Grep the code
04:24 Doc22 im not a lua expert as I said
04:24 OldCoder k
04:24 OldCoder VanessaE, no
04:24 Doc22 i thought global fixed it
04:24 OldCoder Doc22, you can try
04:24 OldCoder Hold on
04:24 VanessaE_[L] OldCoder, the server has a global mods directory at ~/.minetest/mods which has most of what I want in it.
04:24 Doc22 no
04:24 Doc22 ok
04:24 OldCoder VanessaE, as you wish
04:25 OldCoder VanessaE, the proper way
04:25 OldCoder is to make a vanessa_gamee
04:25 OldCoder *e
04:25 OldCoder and specify it with a switch on the command line
04:25 babyface1031 have you looked at 0gb land claim it might work better that glommie protect blocks but i dont know much about codes to look it over
04:25 OldCoder Then you can keep it separate
04:25 OldCoder But reuse it
04:25 anunakki OldCoder,
04:25 OldCoder babyface1031, Kind of busy
04:25 OldCoder anunakki, yes?
04:25 VanessaE_[L] a separate game dir?  hrm..
04:25 OldCoder VanessaE, then
04:25 OldCoder you can keep it separate
04:26 OldCoder but reuse it too
04:26 OldCoder both
04:26 anunakki so as of right now, 3 machines that can run a server for us
04:26 anunakki but.. lets start with one
04:26 babyface1031 that fine i thought the bug was glomie protect block and the switch
04:26 OldCoder babyface1031, need to fix a crash ATM
04:26 Doc22 that could be babyface
04:26 OldCoder ?
04:26 Doc22 mesecons pistons have that bug as well
04:26 OldCoder anunakki, Hi again
04:26 Doc22 they cant move things in protectors
04:26 OldCoder VanessaE, I recommend vanessa_game
04:27 OldCoder Doc22, try the gate
04:27 Doc22 ok
04:27 OldCoder anunakki, we will PM if you wish shortly
04:27 babyface1031 but it is weird it was working and now it has a problem
04:28 OldCoder Hmm?
04:28 Doc22 they changed the code
04:28 OldCoder babyface1031, explain
04:28 Doc22 right?
04:28 OldCoder Yes
04:28 Doc22 thats why
04:28 OldCoder People always change things and break them
04:28 OldCoder D:
04:28 babyface1031 doc use to be able to use the door no problem and now it shuts the server down
04:28 Doc22 the function was moved to a different place
04:28 anunakki one is in sunnyvale california, another in newcomerstown ohio, and one is in dallas texas
04:28 Doc22 yes
04:28 OldCoder anunakki, PK
04:28 Doc22 nope doesnt work
04:28 anunakki but yes, pm me when you're ready
04:28 Doc22 PM*
04:28 OldCoder Yes
04:28 anunakki teake your time OldCoder i knwo you're busy, no rush
04:29 OldCoder k
04:29 Doc22 lol auto grammar thingamajig
04:32 OldCoder Doc22, did you try the gate?
04:32 Doc22 yes it crashed again
04:33 OldCoder Wait
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04:34 OldCoder I think I will have a fix shortly
04:34 Doc22 ok
04:35 Doc22 OldCoder: this is why I don't depend on built in code for my mods; except for register_node, etc
04:35 Doc22 lol
04:35 OldCoder Yep
04:36 OldCoder Doc22, shutting down briefly
04:36 OldCoder Hang on
04:36 OldCoder I need to test this
04:37 Doc22 ok
04:37 babyface1031 ok
04:43 OldCoder Doc22, try now
04:43 OldCoder It may well not work
04:43 Doc22 ok
04:46 OldCoder Doc22, anything happening?
04:46 Doc22 just got in
04:46 Doc22 it works
04:46 Doc22 what did you change
04:46 OldCoder O.K.
04:47 OldCoder I merged the old code back into init.lua
04:47 OldCoder So now
04:47 OldCoder the function is in two places
04:47 OldCoder Which will undoubtedly break things
04:47 * OldCoder shrugs
04:47 * OldCoder hates upgrades
04:47 Doc22 lol
04:47 Doc22 me 2
04:47 OldCoder babyface1031, I will re-add your new avatar after more work
04:47 Doc22 heh heh
04:47 babyface1031 ok
04:47 OldCoder VanessaE, if you are tired we should discuss servers tomorrow
04:47 OldCoder anunakki, coming
04:57 VanessaE No, I was just focused on a movie.
04:57 VanessaE I'm done now.
04:58 * VanessaE lags vigorously.
05:00 VanessaE AND STAY OUT!
05:00 VanessaE haha ! :-)
05:08 babyface1031 night everyone
05:08 VanessaE night
05:14 RBA|bed wb
05:15 RealBadAngel kitty made me out of bed
05:17 VanessaE awww
05:17 VanessaE OldCoder: ok, your config file (tweaked for me) installed, and a copy of minetest_game + a shitload of mods created and configured as "vanessa_game".  Starting the server with that as the game ID and using the world I had earlier.
05:17 VanessaE logging into it from the client...
05:20 VanessaE OldCoder: seems okay.
05:20 OldCoder Hi
05:20 OldCoder Glad
05:20 VanessaE what's next? :-)
05:21 * RealBadAngel yawns
05:21 RealBadAngel wheres the coffee???
05:24 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30000 if you wanna take a look.
05:25 VanessaE hey RBA
05:27 RealBadAngel on this ip they give the coffee?
05:27 VanessaE no, on this IP I'm testing out a server :-)
05:28 RealBadAngel damn, you should install coffee machine mod too
05:28 RealBadAngel coming
05:29 VanessaE haha
05:29 RealBadAngel im forced to do a cup of my own
05:35 VanessaE RBA, ok, it's back.
05:36 * VanessaE hands RealBadAngel a virtual cup of coffee.
05:37 RealBadAngel thank you good soul, you saved my day
05:39 VanessaE rba: going down again to remove a couple of mods that shouldn't be present.
05:39 RealBadAngel hehe ok
05:40 RealBadAngel terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error'
05:40 RealBadAngel what():  basic_string::_S_construct NULL not valid
05:40 VanessaE d'oh!
05:40 VanessaE that b0rk3d
05:40 RealBadAngel i love such error messages
05:41 VanessaE oh you bastard.
05:41 VanessaE I fuckled up.
05:41 VanessaE :-)
05:41 RealBadAngel no
05:41 VanessaE let's try this again.
05:41 RealBadAngel its mine
05:41 VanessaE nono something unrelated.
05:41 RealBadAngel its not from your server i mean
05:42 * VanessaE accidentally deleted the whole mods tree :D
05:42 VanessaE whaddya say I put it back? :-)
05:43 RealBadAngel im doing my inventory and trying to get all the inventory images
05:44 RealBadAngel with mods you gonna get less unknown block i guess ;)
05:44 RealBadAngel so better do it :)
05:46 RealBadAngel still down?
05:46 VanessaE yeah, just getting the mod collection where I want it.
05:46 VanessaE I'll bring it back up in a minute.
05:46 RealBadAngel ok
05:47 VanessaE now what's the mod that lets you type /spawn to jump back there?
05:50 RealBadAngel rotfl
05:51 RealBadAngel it was my debug print crashing the game
05:51 VanessaE heh
05:51 RealBadAngel dunno
05:51 RealBadAngel left it, technic will come with built in one
05:52 RealBadAngel im putting 6 mods together now
05:52 RealBadAngel into one unified player inventory menu
05:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/menu.png
05:54 VanessaE sigh..
05:55 VanessaE 00:54:35: ERROR[main]: /home/vanessa/.minetest/games/vanessa_game/mods/technic/init.lua:
05:55 VanessaE 00:54:35: ERROR[main]: /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/misc_register.lua:62: Name stairsplus:stair_marble does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required
05:55 VanessaE wtf?
05:55 RealBadAngel ha
05:55 RealBadAngel i told calinou
05:55 RealBadAngel wait a sec
05:55 VanessaE what is the correct solution?
05:56 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/stairsplus.zip
05:56 RealBadAngel here is the solution :)
05:56 VanessaE thanks.
05:56 VanessaE now lemme update technic.
05:57 VanessaE there we go.
05:57 VanessaE holy shit:  creative inventory size: 2129
05:57 VanessaE wow :-)
05:57 RealBadAngel nice
05:57 VanessaE ok, it's back up.
05:57 RealBadAngel 27 pages in my inventory
05:57 RealBadAngel not bad
05:57 RealBadAngel :)
05:58 VanessaE regarding that unified inventory, how did you get the slots on right to be so small?
05:58 RealBadAngel how many items shows default creative page?
05:59 RealBadAngel theyre not slots :)
05:59 VanessaE default creative shows 24 per page.
05:59 VanessaE (4x6)
05:59 VanessaE oh, they're buttons aren't they?
05:59 RealBadAngel image ones
05:59 VanessaE smart
05:59 RealBadAngel so no dragging the item
05:59 RealBadAngel click to get stack
06:00 VanessaE nice
06:00 VanessaE that's how it shoulda been done
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06:20 OldCoder VanessaE, I apologize for being busy earlier but...
06:20 VanessaE it's okay
06:20 RealBadAngel hmmm
06:20 VanessaE OldCoder, the server is up if you wanna look around.
06:20 jordan4ibanez That was
06:20 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: netsplit.
06:20 jordan4ibanez seomething
06:20 RealBadAngel split happened
06:20 VanessaE big one, too.
06:20 jordan4ibanez AND EVEN WORSE
06:20 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-turret
06:20 OldCoder VanessaE, I had: a friend with a lover he's losing, a business associate with proposals, somebody who is curious about my health, a Minetest crash, real life work to do, and your own server
06:20 OldCoder Busy :-)
06:20 RealBadAngel OldCoder, so mods shall be updated
06:20 OldCoder RealBadAngel, explain
06:20 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It is not sufficient for the move to be done, then?
06:20 VanessaE OldCoder: quite a load to deal with :-)
06:20 RealBadAngel if the engine got updated mods shall follow
06:20 OldCoder VanessaE, I would be delighted to look around. Tomorrow.
06:21 VanessaE ok, I need to put in a better player sprite.  the green thing is fugly.
06:21 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Explain. nodeupdate is in falling.lua. Old mods can't find it there?
06:21 OldCoder VanessaE, did you see Baby Face PNG?
06:21 OldCoder Link for screenshot is above
06:21 RealBadAngel im not familiar with the changes
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06:21 VanessaE no
06:21 OldCoder Wait
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06:21 jordan4ibanez Why did he commit my code?
06:21 RealBadAngel i will take a look on it
06:21 OldCoder http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/babyfae.png
06:21 OldCoder VanessaE, ^
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06:22 VanessaE OldCoder: awwww that's cute :-)
06:22 OldCoder VanessaE, I need to finish removing the watermark
06:22 jordan4ibanez oldcoder: very creepy lol
06:22 OldCoder ??
06:22 OldCoder It is cute
06:22 OldCoder What is wrong with it? Suits her
06:22 OldCoder But I'll delete it if she wishes
06:22 RealBadAngel nice texture
06:22 OldCoder VanessaE, for your servers:
06:23 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player.png
06:23 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player_back.png
06:23 OldCoder may hold you temporarily
06:23 RealBadAngel funny fact
06:23 VanessaE OldCoder: thought about that one actually.
06:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will finish removing the watermark
06:23 OldCoder VanessaE, it is yours now
06:23 RealBadAngel im running a server now, and 2 clients 40fps each
06:23 OldCoder RealBadAngel, go on
06:24 VanessaE OldCoder: where do I put them?
06:24 OldCoder One moment
06:24 OldCoder vanessa_game/mods/default/textures/player.png
06:24 VanessaE ok
06:24 OldCoder vanessa_game/mods/default/textures/player_back.png
06:24 OldCoder should do it
06:24 OldCoder To get different mods for each player...
06:24 VanessaE done.
06:25 OldCoder I will give you the folders for that as I build them
06:25 OldCoder Folks I am actually not entirely well
06:25 VanessaE RealBadAngel: restarting the server with the new player texture.
06:25 OldCoder Will be resting for a bit
06:25 * OldCoder back in a bit
06:25 RealBadAngel ok
06:26 VanessaE done.
06:35 RealBadAngel heh
06:35 RealBadAngel i almost did it
06:35 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/inv.png
06:35 RealBadAngel now the correct faces just :)
06:35 VanessaE RealBadAngel: NIIIIIICEE
06:36 VanessaE now, one more tweak:  make the images just a hair smaller than they are now, relative to the buttons they sit on
06:36 VanessaE some of them seem to overlap the button edges just slightly.
06:36 RealBadAngel yup, but thats the fault of buttons code
06:36 VanessaE also, lighten the color of those buttons just a little.
06:36 RealBadAngel i will fix it in engine
06:37 RealBadAngel together with tooltips for them
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06:43 VanessaE RealBadAngel: how long until that mod is ready?
06:43 RealBadAngel today i think
06:43 VanessaE cool
06:43 VanessaE I want. :-)
06:43 RealBadAngel i just made hardest part i think
06:44 * marktraceur pings the channel again re: minetestmapper.py
06:45 marktraceur I have a sneaking suspicion that there's a hardcoded limit somewhere that stops rendering around a z-value of -1500
06:45 marktraceur I know redcrab made up a patch for the mapper recently, but it doesn't fix the issue
06:45 VanessaE indeed there is.  dunno the solution though short of editing the code
06:45 marktraceur Well, editing the code is fine. /me will investigate
06:47 marktraceur Oh.
06:47 marktraceur It's very plainly there
06:47 * marktraceur is disgusted, will file bug report, hold
06:48 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/done.png
06:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: gimme
06:48 marktraceur What's the actual hard limit on blocks? -32K or so?
06:48 RealBadAngel hehehe, hold on, just the displaying items part is now done :)
06:48 RealBadAngel +- 31000
06:48 VanessaE marktraceur: -30920 I think.
06:50 marktraceur Augh
06:50 marktraceur Stupid mistake
06:51 RealBadAngel suspicion left without a notice? ;)
06:51 VanessaE hrm, I need to change the ownership of some chests.  Is that possible?
06:51 RealBadAngel dont think so
06:51 VanessaE then I have to destroy them..
06:52 RealBadAngel yup
06:53 RealBadAngel shit i do like how the inventory looks like :)
06:53 VanessaE and to do that...I need a special tool..admin pick I guess
06:54 RealBadAngel tnt
06:55 VanessaE heh
06:56 marktraceur Damn it, am I going to have to fix minetestmapper for this to work?
06:56 VanessaE I expect so, mark :-/
06:56 VanessaE but..
06:56 VanessaE someone already rewrote that program into a C++ version
06:56 VanessaE it's like 100 times faster
06:56 VanessaE (who was it?)
06:57 marktraceur Wait, is it in the repo now?
06:57 VanessaE not as far as I know
06:57 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://keepvid.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-45RuwciPTY%26feature%3Drelated
06:57 VanessaE I don't even remember who wrote it.
06:58 VanessaE er, pass. :-)
06:58 marktraceur Hrm.
06:59 marktraceur C++ is a good idea, but the Python script would work OK
06:59 marktraceur It just needs to not suck as much
06:59 marktraceur Example: Don't load entire database at once
06:59 marktraceur Example: Don't guess at the size of the map, know it
06:59 marktraceur And so on
07:00 * marktraceur might do that tomorrow
07:00 RealBadAngel feel free to fix it :)
07:00 * marktraceur might mod tomorrow
07:00 marktraceur We'll see what I'm up for.
07:00 marktraceur For now, I changed the hard limits on my copy, so I can have a full map at least.
07:00 RealBadAngel you could make it to work runtime
07:01 RealBadAngel so we could have minimap
07:01 RealBadAngel on hud
07:01 marktraceur RealBadAngel: That would require a C++ rewrite and much, much more, so I'm thinking no
07:02 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Probably the better way is to write the mapper code so it ties into the libraries
07:02 RealBadAngel chicken?
07:02 VanessaE there.  admin pick can't get rid of them, but worldedit can :)
07:02 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Not a pro C++ coder, honestly
07:02 RealBadAngel cmon
07:02 RealBadAngel dont be a chicken
07:02 RealBadAngel :)
07:03 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Your encouragement is nice, but doesn't change my current lack of C++ knowlede
07:03 marktraceur knowledge, too
07:03 marktraceur And I mean "nice" in a very loose sense
07:03 RealBadAngel hehehe
07:03 RealBadAngel i can help when needed
07:04 RealBadAngel define the code needed and i will do that
07:05 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Roughly, you'd need to write a map library that will let A) the game call it for arbitrary locations (for the minimap idea) and B) the mapper script call it globally
07:06 RealBadAngel i need rules on which such map shall be built
07:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: And both should be hookable for Lua
07:06 marktraceur RealBadAngel: See the existing minetestmapper.py, that's the current implementation
07:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I want that inventory mod you're working on the instant it's done. :-)
07:07 RealBadAngel what about height the player is currently on?
07:07 RealBadAngel VanessaE, dont worry, it will be done today. now makin the pages flip
07:08 marktraceur RealBadAngel: Probably you would estimate that the player is on the ground, and make their current location the minimum Y, then add ~16 for the maximum Y.
07:08 marktraceur Er no
07:08 marktraceur Other way around
07:08 RealBadAngel so, thats your job exactly
07:08 RealBadAngel find out the rules
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07:08 RealBadAngel gather them together
07:08 marktraceur What?
07:08 * marktraceur ignores RealBadAngel
07:09 RealBadAngel lol
07:09 marktraceur RealBadAngel: I'm a software engineer, I know how to write software, but don't currently have the time to re-learn C++ (again) and hack together a mapping library for Minetest.
07:09 RealBadAngel and im the coder
07:10 RealBadAngel if you can "engineer" this, i wont build it
07:10 RealBadAngel *cant
07:10 marktraceur Right, back to the ignoring thing, that was a good idea
07:11 RealBadAngel no problemo, i will do that alone when im done with inventory
07:11 RealBadAngel happy "engeneering" ;)
07:18 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://realbadangel.pl/page2.png another page :)
07:19 RealBadAngel and just noticed i should also display nodeboxed ones another way ;)
07:20 RealBadAngel marktraceur, but seriously, dont be angry. i can really help you with this
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07:21 RealBadAngel VanessaE, http://realbadangel.pl/page2.png another page :)
07:21 VanessaE X crashed.  as if that's a surprise.
07:21 VanessaE looks good to me
07:22 RealBadAngel but i have a problem
07:22 VanessaE though I wonder if the inventory icons aren't a little too small now.
07:22 RealBadAngel how to create inv image for stairs for example
07:22 RealBadAngel i mean nodeboxed ones
07:22 VanessaE no clue.
07:23 RealBadAngel me neither
07:23 VanessaE render it with the wielditem draw type?
07:24 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/7qvnZMnu
07:24 RealBadAngel by now the code to get inv image is like that
07:25 VanessaE hm
07:26 RealBadAngel pretty weird but theres no other way by now
07:26 VanessaE brbg
07:26 VanessaE brb
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07:34 RealBadAngel i think a patch to the engine is the only solution
07:34 RealBadAngel the image is already there
07:39 VanessaE there.
07:41 RealBadAngel hmmm i was right, patch is really needed
07:42 RealBadAngel itemdef.cpp line #388
07:42 RealBadAngel this is how inventory image is created
07:42 RealBadAngel no way i can do that again in lua
07:43 RealBadAngel need to expose the image to the outside
07:44 ruskie http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/25/minecraft_for_raspberry_pi/
07:46 RealBadAngel ive read that some1 is running mt on PI
07:46 RealBadAngel theres a post in forums bout it
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08:09 Aqua hi
08:10 Aqua anyone?
08:11 RealBadAngel hi
08:11 RealBadAngel whassup?
08:12 Aqua is there any way to make server without port fowarding?
08:12 VanessaE Aqua: I just started one today, no port forwarding going on here.
08:12 VanessaE so it depends on your ISP and your firewall whether such will be needed.
08:13 Aqua does the steps on the  wiki still work?
08:13 VanessaE dunno, I didn't use it.
08:15 Aqua i just dont get this
08:15 Aqua Open command prompt by going in the Minetest installation folder, then in the "bin" folder, hold Shift, do a right click on a empty file (not on minetest.exe), click "Open command window here". Type this, without quotes: "minetest.exe --server".      If you get the error "Multiple worlds are available.", use "minetest.exe --server --worldname world_name" instead, where world_name is the name of the world.   If your server crashes, th
08:15 VanessaE ugh, I wouldn't know then - that's windows stuff.  I use linux.
08:15 Aqua whats the difference?
08:16 VanessaE linux doesn't use that method.  My server runs as:  minetestserver --config /home/vanessa/.minetest/minetest-server.conf --worldname My_World_server  --port 30000 --gameid vanessa_game
08:16 Aqua does linux xost money
08:16 Aqua cost*
08:16 VanessaE no.
08:16 RealBadAngel yes
08:16 VanessaE it is designed to be free.
08:16 RealBadAngel 0.0 in any currency ;)
08:17 Aqua whats ubuntu?
08:17 RealBadAngel a distro
08:17 Aqua reading wikipedia now
08:17 VanessaE Aqua: a collection of software based around the Linux kernel.  What we call a "Distribution".
08:17 RealBadAngel pick KUbuntu if youre windows user
08:17 RealBadAngel it comes with KDE desktop similiar to windows one
08:17 VanessaE one's as good as another, but any of the *Ubuntu ones are good.
08:17 VanessaE I use Xubuntu.
08:18 Aqua so if i do download this will it change the whole laptop?
08:18 VanessaE if you install it, quite so, yes.
08:18 VanessaE if you just "try" it, no.
08:18 VanessaE it'll run entirely from the CD/DVD.
08:18 VanessaE (but then nothing will be saved of course)
08:19 RealBadAngel yup
08:19 RealBadAngel thats a good way for you to try
08:19 Aqua i have windows xp will it still run linux?
08:19 VanessaE yes.
08:19 RealBadAngel use Live distro for start
08:19 VanessaE Linux runs separately.
08:19 RealBadAngel hold on for link
08:19 VanessaE Windows will not be active while linux is running, and vice-versa.
08:19 Aqua http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
08:20 RealBadAngel http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
08:20 Aqua so it will change the whole start screen and everything?
08:20 VanessaE Aqua: Linux is an operating system.  It aims to do the same basic job that Windows does - to control your computer, allow you to run programs, etc.  You can only have one operating system running at a time.
08:20 VanessaE (virtual machines notwithstanding)
08:20 RealBadAngel you can try it without any changes to your HDD
08:21 RealBadAngel just boot off the downloaded CD
08:21 RealBadAngel download, burn, boot
08:21 Aqua i have to burn.......
08:21 VanessaE yes.
08:21 RealBadAngel yes
08:21 VanessaE burn a disc image to CD or DVD.
08:21 VanessaE then boot from it.
08:22 Aqua get a disc and burn?
08:22 VanessaE or get that thumbdrive version.
08:22 Aqua usb?
08:22 VanessaE (I don't remember how it works)
08:22 RealBadAngel possible
08:22 VanessaE yeah, there's a USB thumbdrive version.
08:22 Aqua ok
08:22 RealBadAngel just read the page
08:22 Aqua thats good
08:23 Aqua if i change to linux i cant change back to xp?
08:23 RealBadAngel you can have both
08:23 RealBadAngel and during boot you can select which one OS to run
08:23 Aqua ahhh i see
08:23 VanessaE Aqua: you can install what's called "dual boot", where you can select an OS to run at startup.
08:24 VanessaE or you can just try linux from CD and not install it, see if you like it.
08:24 Aqua is the linux screen different?
08:24 RealBadAngel while installing the kubuntu you have to pick correct option
08:24 VanessaE or you can do what I've done for years - only run linux.
08:24 Aqua whats wubi?
08:24 RealBadAngel skip it
08:24 VanessaE yes, everything will be changed, but only as long as linux is running.
08:24 RealBadAngel Aqua, as long as you know what cursor is, nothin will change
08:25 RealBadAngel nothing gonna explode or something
08:25 RealBadAngel it will look just a bit different :)
08:25 Aqua if i change will i lose everything ive downloaded games,gimp etc.
08:25 RealBadAngel no
08:25 Aqua thanks
08:26 RealBadAngel use option to install linux together with windows
08:26 RealBadAngel when you will turn your machine on
08:26 Aqua bittorent or regular download?
08:26 RealBadAngel you will be asked to choose what system to run
08:26 VanessaE regular download for now.
08:26 RealBadAngel use regular
08:26 VanessaE you probably don't have a torrent client.
08:26 Aqua whats the differnce?
08:27 RealBadAngel dowloading from http or torrent net
08:27 VanessaE Aqua: don't ask, it's complicated :-)
08:27 RealBadAngel usually http is faster
08:28 RealBadAngel stupid question now
08:28 Aqua yep i probaly wont understand just 8
08:28 RealBadAngel how to create itemstack out of item name?
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08:28 Aqua hi
08:29 VanessaE RealBadAngel: same as in a recipe
08:29 VanessaE "default:wood 99"
08:29 VanessaE for example.
08:29 Aqua just click download no need to stick usb?
08:29 RealBadAngel im tryin for half an hour
08:29 Aqua btw whats abm?
08:29 RealBadAngel i got the name
08:29 VanessaE Aqua: download the CD/DVD image to your desktop.  Burn it to a disc.  Reboot with that disc.
08:29 RealBadAngel and want to make itemstack out of it
08:30 RealBadAngel and cannot find correct way
08:30 Aqua 32 or 64 nit?
08:30 Aqua bit*
08:30 RealBadAngel how much RAM your machine has?
08:30 VanessaE Aqua: Active Block Modifier.  It's a way to make periodic changes to a block inside the world, such as spawning a flower, changing a furnace from active to inactive, etc.
08:30 VanessaE 32 or 64 bit depends on your processor.  How old is it?
08:30 RealBadAngel hi sfan5
08:30 VanessaE 32 bit will work everywhere basically.
08:30 RealBadAngel youre badly needed :)
08:31 Aqua old dell intel centrino duo
08:31 VanessaE 64 bit will work only on AMD64/intel x86_64 machines.
08:31 VanessaE ok, probably 32 bit then.
08:31 Aqua 5 or 6 yrs
08:31 RealBadAngel if he has >4GB then 64
08:31 RealBadAngel 32
08:31 RealBadAngel definitely
08:31 sfan5 hi
08:31 VanessaE RealBadAngel: not always.  one of the guys here has an i686 machine with 4GB, can't run 64bit on it
08:31 VanessaE kaeza I think it was?
08:32 Aqua 1 hr and 30 mines
08:32 Aqua mines
08:32 Aqua mins*
08:32 Aqua to use to talking in server
08:35 Aqua whats a collisionbox?
08:36 VanessaE it's the space around an object that keeps you from getting any closer, or causes you to climb it
08:36 VanessaE stairs have a stair-shaped collision box, most other things have a cube-shaped one.
08:37 VanessaE it is not visible.
08:41 Aqua i got this texture problem for exampleglass is an active furnace and furnace is dirt
08:42 VanessaE usually that happens when you're too low on video memory, or your texture atlas is broken,
08:43 Aqua any way to fix?
08:44 jin_xi
08:44 jin_xi oops
08:46 VanessaE enable_texture_atlas = false
08:46 VanessaE in your minetest.conf
08:46 VanessaE jin_xi: spaced out? ;-)
08:46 Aqua whats a good server?
08:46 Aqua i cant play gameboom or hunger game anymore:(
08:46 VanessaE play on redcrab.suret.net 30401
08:46 jin_xi always!
08:47 Aqua
08:47 Aqua do i edit it with notepad?
08:48 VanessaE any editor will do
08:48 VanessaE notepad is fine.
08:48 VanessaE just insert that line at the end of the file on a new line,
08:49 VanessaE save, restart minetest.
08:50 Aqua have to have # at front?
08:51 VanessaE no.
08:51 VanessaE # at front of a line means "ignore this line" to the computer.
08:51 VanessaE they are comments.
08:52 jin_xi RealBadAngel: you still need answer to your itemstack question?
08:53 Aqua nah doesnt work guess its just too ole
08:53 Aqua old
08:53 RealBadAngel yes i do
08:54 RealBadAngel im fightin the problem for 2 hours already
08:54 jin_xi i think you can just make one like so:
08:55 jin_xi { name = "painting:paintedcanvas", count = 1, metadata = minetest.serialize(data) }
08:55 VanessaE Aqua: try fewer mods, use a smaller texture pack
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08:58 VanessaE Aqua: make sure your video driver is up to date and that the game is using the right video mode also
08:58 Aqua wats the debug text keeps getting bigger can i delete it?
08:58 VanessaE delete it.
08:58 VanessaE it's just what it sounds like
08:59 VanessaE debugging information, useful when a mod crashes.
08:59 Aqua ok will it start again?
08:59 Aqua no wonder my minetest is 6 fps recently
08:59 VanessaE yes, it'll re-build it.
08:59 VanessaE 6 fps?
08:59 VanessaE that's a video driver problem.
09:00 Aqua but normally its 50 until yesterday and today
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09:01 Aqua when i open it my whole laptop freezes
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09:06 * Jordach has hiccups and says good morning
09:07 VanessaE good morning.
09:07 VanessaE Aqua: the problem is a broken video driver .
09:09 Jordach aw man, i need to talk to OldCoder
09:09 Aqua good night
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09:12 jin_xi RealBadAngel: does that work?
09:17 VanessaE night all.
09:17 VanessaE bedtime for me.
09:18 jin_xi bye
09:18 Jordach jin_xi - have you seen Taoki's models?
09:18 RealBadAngel well, 3d players worked with 3 players :)
09:19 jin_xi yes, i've seen the video yesterday
09:19 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205:30000
09:19 Jordach RealBadAngel whats 3^3
09:19 RealBadAngel server is running all the time
09:19 john_minetest night, VanessaE
09:20 RealBadAngel there was Vanessa, sfan5 and me connected
09:20 RealBadAngel so 3 players to test 3d players :)
09:20 * Jordach considers building a british flag to indicate capture of a area
09:20 jin_xi yeah, i just joined RBA
09:20 Aqua can i join?
09:21 Jordach Aqua you will probably see a 2d player if you use a normal client
09:23 jin_xi hmm, segfault
09:23 Jordach sfan5 - can you build taokis client? and add the models minetest game>
09:23 john_minetest also joining
09:23 RealBadAngel he did it already i think
09:23 RealBadAngel but hes afk for a moment
09:24 jin_xi ok, pulled latest _game
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09:24 Jordach RealBadAngel - i see nothing on his webpage
09:26 Aqua so can i join?
09:26 Aqua cya
09:27 RealBadAngel john: do you have minetest_game from taoki too?
09:28 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models
09:28 RealBadAngel you have to use it
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09:28 RealBadAngel hi calinou
09:28 john_minetest coooooool...
09:28 Calinou hi
09:28 RealBadAngel Calinou, wanna see 3d players?
09:29 Calinou k :P
09:29 sfan5 Jordach: for windows?
09:29 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models
09:29 Jordach yes
09:29 RealBadAngel minetest game
09:29 Jordach (and use neccasary branch please)
09:29 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
09:29 RealBadAngel and the engine
09:30 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205:30000
09:30 Calinou hmm k
09:32 Calinou compiling..
09:33 Calinou compiled!
09:34 Calinou wtf
09:34 Calinou I'm unable to type "7" in the address bar
09:34 Calinou and I can't use numpad at all for some reason (yes, it is enabled)
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09:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:37 Calinou server protocol is 14, my protocol is 13...
09:37 * Calinou switched keyboard layout just to type the IP since he can't copy paste it
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09:39 jin_xi hey Adam
09:40 RealBadAngel calinou, compile the sources
09:40 RealBadAngel then join
09:40 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, 3d players are here
09:40 Calinou I did
09:40 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, i know
09:40 PilzAdam saw it on GiHub
09:40 RealBadAngel server is up
09:41 RealBadAngel 77.91.18.205:30000
09:41 RealBadAngel you need both engine and minetest_game
09:41 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/models
09:41 Calinou RealBadAngel: /set -n strict_protocol_version_checking false
09:41 RealBadAngel https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_game/tree/models
09:41 Calinou I have both, RealBadAngel
09:41 Calinou wtf
09:41 * Calinou facepalms
09:41 Calinou it's a branch
09:41 RealBadAngel yup :)
09:42 RealBadAngel thats why im posting links to it
09:42 * Calinou compiles again
09:42 RealBadAngel somebody just proposed in game to add facepalm animation
09:42 Calinou lol
09:42 RealBadAngel with chat command :)
09:42 Calinou taunts :D
09:43 Jordach just like xonotic
09:44 john_minetest maybe the command:  /m(
09:48 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, if I join your server do I need to download minetest_game?
09:57 Calinou what the
09:57 Calinou models are in .x format
09:57 Calinou ...WTF
09:57 Calinou well they work, but it's a m$ format :(
09:58 sfan5 win build for models will be up shortly
09:58 sfan5 check the page
09:58 sfan5 http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-bbd990f-models-ae66c6708f-win32.7z
09:58 OldCoder Good morning
10:00 Calinou RealBadAngel: any way to override model skin on all servers?
10:00 Calinou like, models/all?
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10:02 OldCoder neko259, Hello
10:04 Jordach Calinou does it render?
10:05 neko259 OldCoder: Hi.
10:05 Jordach hey OldCoder
10:05 OldCoder hi
10:05 Jordach OldCoder PM.
10:05 Calinou Jordach: the model? yes..
10:05 Calinou Jordach: can you answer my question? :P
10:05 Jordach its .x since irrlicht eats it
10:06 Calinou *pokes irrlicht devs for iqm support*
10:06 * Jordach pokes Calinou to get Calinou poking the Irrlicht devs
10:09 RealBadAngel http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-bbd990f-models-ae66c6708f-win32.7z
10:09 RealBadAngel Calinou, there will be
10:09 Calinou :| I looked at player.lua, animation FPS is global, not per-animation...
10:09 RealBadAngel each player can have own skin
10:09 Calinou RealBadAngel: is it possible to override all players' skins?
10:10 RealBadAngel not yet
10:10 RealBadAngel and i think it shall not be possible
10:10 Jordach Calinou - just do your bit and work on the changelog
10:10 Jordach because textures are per model
10:11 RealBadAngel server registered player will have own skin
10:11 Calinou yes, but we should have a minetest.conf setting to force one skin on all players imo
10:11 RealBadAngel and client shall not overwrite it
10:11 RealBadAngel for what reason?
10:12 Calinou scared parents (:P), preventing players from using "camouflage" skins in pvp
10:12 Calinou and look consistency
10:12 RealBadAngel you want some1 to force calinou to be naked? ;)
10:12 Jordach make that part of the code so Calinou cant change such things#
10:12 RealBadAngel lol
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10:13 RealBadAngel registered nicks on server will carry registered skins
10:13 Calinou :| if I connect two players to the same server, the second keeps segfaulting
10:13 RealBadAngel nope
10:13 RealBadAngel you cant connect with same names
10:14 RealBadAngel also empty password is also disabled
10:14 RealBadAngel so, login, got your skin
10:15 RealBadAngel and all can see it
10:15 RealBadAngel when not specified, you will carry default
10:15 Calinou i had different names :P
10:15 Calinou and I connected to localhost
10:16 RealBadAngel heh, we just made a QUANTUM leap and youre askin whats that bit of a paint down there ;)
10:17 RealBadAngel rocket wasnt painted properly just
10:17 RealBadAngel but its already on high orbit, so who cares :)
10:19 RealBadAngel definition of tweaks is to work on already released code
10:20 RealBadAngel all we need now are just tweaks
10:20 RealBadAngel code is stable and working
10:21 RealBadAngel several 3d players runnin around are more than enough to prove its stable
10:22 RealBadAngel Calinou, models can be used for mobs too
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10:23 RealBadAngel jingle bells, jingle bells... ;)
10:24 * Jordach makes a Minecraft Game
10:24 Jordach <sarcasm>
10:24 RealBadAngel oh, cmon
10:24 RealBadAngel we can do better
10:25 RealBadAngel Notch has already sold his soul
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10:32 * Jordach stretches
10:33 Jordach RealBadAngel ip please
10:34 PilzAdam 77.91.18.205:30000
10:34 Jordach thanks
10:34 Jordach haha! win32 works off the bat!
10:35 Jordach RealBadAngel - can i has privs?
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10:50 PilzAdam is RBA's server down?
10:51 PilzAdam it was my wifi
10:51 Jordach nope
10:51 Jordach lol gaming wi-fi
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10:57 Aqua hi
10:57 Aqua 3.1 is nearly out =D
10:59 Jordach aw man
10:59 Jordach taoki should get herself to rba's place right now
10:59 Calinou rofl
11:00 Calinou 12PM!
11:00 Calinou :>
11:00 Jordach yes 11:00 am here
11:04 RealBadAngel server is running all the time
11:07 Jordach fuck me
11:07 Jordach minetest, y u segfault
11:08 jin_xi you have latest _game?
11:08 Jordach yahse
11:08 Jordach (yes)
11:08 jin_xi from taokis branch
11:08 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/monument.png
11:08 RealBadAngel EPIC
11:09 Jordach jin_xi - it died on me when i closed a hung app
11:11 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=53485#p53485
11:12 PilzAdam who helped to create it?
11:14 Jordach me, Calinou, PilzAdam
11:14 Jordach (assisted with pick, torch, clearing "third arm"
11:21 sfan5 re
11:24 RealBadAngel i think that Taoki gonna like it
11:26 Calinou i did the whole statue minus the pick/torch
11:26 iqualfragile1 we need a 3d player-model
11:27 RealBadAngel yup
11:27 RealBadAngel it is here
11:27 RealBadAngel now folks responsible for merge
11:28 RealBadAngel all of you feel free to push them :)
11:28 celeron55 not at the current state of unstabeleness
11:28 RealBadAngel its stable
11:29 celeron55 see http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-25
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11:29 KikaRz Hi there pipolz!
11:29 RealBadAngel it was 4 days ago
11:29 RealBadAngel have you seen the current code?
11:29 celeron55 wat?
11:29 celeron55 i pulled taoki's repo today and tested it
11:29 KikaRz Hi there celeron,
11:30 RealBadAngel youre welcome to test
11:30 KikaRz celeron, there is a chosen day to launch new version (0.5 or 0.4.4) ?
11:30 celeron55 as long as it randomly segfaults for me, it isn't going to go in
11:30 RealBadAngel rotfl
11:30 celeron55 KikaRz: no
11:31 RealBadAngel server is up for like 10 hours
11:31 KikaRz Okey... but you got a changelog already?
11:31 celeron55 the server is stable, but client is not
11:31 RealBadAngel and had 7 players max
11:31 Jordach celeron55 - the segfault might have been my gpu
11:31 Jordach (something crashed in the background and took mt with it)
11:31 celeron55 so it segfaults for Jordach, calinou and me
11:31 celeron55 that's enough reason
11:31 RealBadAngel yup
11:32 Jordach celeron55 is it a nvidia card you have?
11:32 celeron55 nope
11:32 RealBadAngel the tree is called DEV if i recall corectly
11:32 RealBadAngel not SUPER STABLE
11:32 Jordach i know calinou has, and i do.
11:32 RealBadAngel yes
11:32 KikaRz lol
11:32 OldCoder celeron55, to bridge the gap I'm merging upstream fixes into my server. Is there a particular commit you'd recommend related to mapgen?
11:32 celeron55 RealBadAngel: it isn't supposed to fail 2/3 of the time
11:32 Penguin joined #minetest
11:32 OldCoder Penguin, hi
11:32 KikaRz Hi there Penguin
11:32 OldCoder Penguin, You have a new avatar
11:32 RealBadAngel because you both forgot to dowload minetest_game
11:32 Penguin yay
11:33 OldCoder Penguin, people can see it in a few minutes
11:33 celeron55 RealBadAngel: stop being an idiot
11:33 Jordach RealBadAngel - actually, no, you dont have to
11:33 OldCoder You are a penguin!
11:33 KikaRz no, he's a tux.
11:33 RealBadAngel im not an idiot
11:33 KikaRz *Tux
11:33 Penguin Coder Can U Add Scafolding Mod Please
11:33 OldCoder Penguin, your ingame nick is Penguin is that correct?
11:33 OldCoder Penguin, Link please
11:33 OldCoder For scaffolding
11:33 RealBadAngel i just recalled crash reasons
11:33 Penguin okay and yes
11:34 RealBadAngel anyway it turns some ppl were right
11:34 OldCoder Penguin, I will wait for link
11:35 Penguin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3205
11:35 OldCoder Penguin, R
11:35 RealBadAngel it looks like you, celeron55, doesnt want to get the game to go further
11:35 RealBadAngel pity and shame :P
11:35 OldCoder Penguin, see if anybody will support this mod: is it safe?
11:35 Jordach yes
11:35 OldCoder Looks lightweight
11:36 jin_xi well, lets track this crash bug down
11:36 OldCoder Jordach, you like it?
11:36 RealBadAngel hire some more $1500 folks
11:36 RealBadAngel meanwhile bye
11:36 OldCoder RealBadAngel, There are lots of changes in my worlds this weekend
11:36 OldCoder Too bad
11:36 * OldCoder sighs
11:36 Jordach i know.
11:36 OldCoder celeron55, Good morning
11:37 celeron55 i can't belive somebody gets pissed off because i won't merge code upstream that segfaults half of the time
11:37 celeron55 well, everything happens...
11:37 OldCoder It will be fine
11:37 Penguin Oldcoder Is it safe It Was Fine In S
11:37 OldCoder k
11:37 Penguin SP*
11:37 OldCoder What is S?
11:37 Penguin Singleplayer
11:37 OldCoder Jordach, you like this mod?
11:37 KikaRz so
11:37 KikaRz its SP
11:37 KikaRz not S
11:37 KikaRz '-'
11:38 OldCoder celeron55, are there upstream commits you like related to mapgen?
11:38 * Jordach does need something to keep me floating without fly
11:38 celeron55 OldCoder: wut?
11:38 OldCoder celeron55, I am patching to build stable servers
11:38 OldCoder to bridge the gap
11:38 Penguin Thats Why I Put
11:38 Penguin SP*
11:38 Penguin KikaRz
11:38 celeron55 OldCoder: i don't understand
11:38 * OldCoder laughs
11:38 KikaRz lol
11:38 OldCoder celeron55, I get so tired when people don't understand. But it is fine.
11:39 KikaRz OldCoder
11:39 OldCoder celeron55, here is the simple story:
11:39 OldCoder celeron55, to make people happy I will build servers that don't crash
11:39 OldCoder Don't Crash is Good
11:39 KikaRz OFFTOPIC - How i can get in Minetest server folder in the vps by SSH ?
11:39 OldCoder I Don't Want Crash
11:39 KikaRz well (PuTTY)
11:39 OldCoder KikaRz, wait
11:39 celeron55 nobody wants crashes - so? 8)
11:39 OldCoder celeron55, I also need LevelDB. You don't have it.
11:39 OldCoder celeron55, Therefore I am building stable servers with carefully selected code.
11:40 OldCoder Simple? No? Then I Surrender! :-)
11:40 celeron55 how is this related to upstream commits related to mapgen
11:40 OldCoder celeron55, simple as well...
11:40 OldCoder celeron55, I have been told there are bug fixes related to mapgen and will merge them. But I did not notice them in the recent logs. Are there commits of this sort that you happen to approve of?
11:41 OldCoder celeron55, there is the confusing and strange question!
11:41 OldCoder :P
11:41 celeron55 i am not aware of any bugfixes to mapgen
11:41 Jordach it replaces slow 'ol pow(x,y) with t*t*t
11:41 OldCoder celeron55, Thank you, then. Come and visit my worlds. Tell me what your 2D avatar should be.
11:42 Taoki|away All I can say is I never experienced any mapgen crashes
11:42 OldCoder Jordach, O.K. I think I have that fix merged.
11:42 Penguin OldCoder Is Server Back Up Yet ?
11:42 OldCoder Taoki|away, not crashes but corruption
11:42 OldCoder Penguin, I am adding scaffolding
11:42 celeron55 corruption is not related to map generation, it's related to map storage
11:42 Penguin Thanks And Note Me When it Is Up
11:42 OldCoder celeron55, very well // storage is hell // what do you // recommend
11:42 celeron55 i have never experienced that either, except for the couple of small files getting messed up
11:43 OldCoder very well as well
11:43 OldCoder then truth to tell
11:43 OldCoder we are done!
11:43 OldCoder :-)
11:43 OldCoder celeron55, is there a 2D character you would prefer?
11:43 OldCoder What shall it be?
11:43 OldCoder Ballerina, Cat, Dinosaur, or Rat?
11:43 OldCoder What shall it be?
11:43 OldCoder
11:44 OldCoder KikaRz, wait please
11:44 OldCoder KikaRz, I am adding a mod ATM
11:44 KikaRz ok
11:44 KikaRz i want cats !
11:44 KikaRz !!!
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11:44 OldCoder KikaRz, would you like to be one?
11:45 KikaRz yea
11:45 KikaRz :D
11:45 OldCoder Very well
11:45 KikaRz i wanted to have a domestic cat.
11:45 OldCoder You are a temporary kitty; we will change to a better one later on
11:46 OldCoder scaffolding is added
11:46 OldCoder and KikaRz is a Kitty
11:46 Penguin OldCoder I Can Not See My Self Can  I
11:46 OldCoder Penguin, No
11:46 OldCoder But others can screenshot you
11:46 KikaRz OldCoder
11:46 OldCoder worlds returning soon
11:46 OldCoder KikaRz, yes
11:46 KikaRz i wanted to have a cat in home
11:46 KikaRz and i could sit him
11:46 OldCoder Go on
11:46 KikaRz etc
11:46 OldCoder And?
11:47 Penguin Tell Me When Back Up
11:47 OldCoder What happened?
11:47 OldCoder k
11:47 OldCoder Lots of changes, folks
11:47 OldCoder Any more mods?
11:48 Penguin Wait OldCoder 1 minit
11:48 KikaRz can i make cats skins?
11:48 OldCoder KikaRz, yes
11:48 OldCoder KikaRz, like this:
11:49 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player.png
11:49 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player_back.png
11:49 OldCoder Make two PNG files
11:49 OldCoder Transparent background
11:49 KikaRz yea
11:49 OldCoder Height must be exactly double width
11:49 KikaRz but they must be smaller
11:49 OldCoder Nope
11:49 KikaRz o.o
11:49 OldCoder I can scale them
11:49 KikaRz A GIANT CAT ? O_O'
11:49 OldCoder it will be the right size
11:49 OldCoder Just
11:49 OldCoder Height must be exactly double width
11:49 OldCoder That is the rule
11:49 OldCoder Also
11:49 OldCoder Transparent background
11:50 OldCoder And
11:50 OldCoder Front and back outline must match
11:50 OldCoder Those are the rules to follow
11:50 Penguin http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2765
11:50 OldCoder KikaRz, is your nick KikaRz ingame?
11:50 OldCoder Penguin, R
11:50 KikaRz yes
11:51 OldCoder Jordach, anybody else: will you second that mod?
11:51 Penguin Save People Droping Stuff And Laging Server And it is useful
11:51 KikaRz but OldCoder
11:51 OldCoder Penguin, does it work with the new 0.4.3 ?
11:51 KikaRz how ill make a cat
11:51 OldCoder KikaRz, yes?
11:51 KikaRz with that size?
11:51 OldCoder KikaRz, try Inkscape
11:51 KikaRz not that
11:51 OldCoder The cat must stand
11:51 OldCoder It is a Neko
11:51 KikaRz just standing?
11:52 OldCoder It can do what you wish
11:52 OldCoder Meow or frown
11:52 OldCoder It is your avatar
11:52 OldCoder It can do what you wish
11:52 Penguin i will test now coder
11:52 OldCoder Penguin, see if anybody will second
11:53 KikaRz oh
11:53 KikaRz my avatar...
11:53 KikaRz but i wanted to make a cat
11:53 KikaRz not my avatar
11:53 KikaRz '-'
11:53 OldCoder ?
11:53 OldCoder Just a cat?
11:53 OldCoder meow?
11:53 OldCoder What is the question?
11:54 KikaRz We can implement pets to the game?
11:54 KikaRz Like dogs, cats, birds?
11:54 OldCoder Ah
11:54 OldCoder Not yet
11:54 OldCoder Just avatars
11:54 KikaRz so
11:54 OldCoder Pets are bets for lag
11:54 OldCoder Does anybody else wish to comment on pets mods?
11:55 Penguin Pets=lag
11:55 OldCoder k
11:55 OldCoder Penguin, test the trash mod
11:56 Penguin i am i am load ing
11:58 Penguin Trash 0.3 Works With 0.4.3 :)
11:59 Penguin OldCoder Trash 0.3 Works With 0.4.3 :)
11:59 OldCoder We will try it
12:00 OldCoder
12:00 Penguin Old Coder Texture Pack Is Geting Old ?
12:00 OldCoder 17 U.S. Worlds Restarted. Come and Get Them.
12:00 OldCoder Penguin, Hmm?
12:00 OldCoder Penguin, restarting
12:01 Penguin okay
12:01 OldCoder Penguin, what about textures?
12:01 Penguin and Dokutest is geting old
12:01 OldCoder Penguin, Explain
12:01 Penguin the texture pack for server need new one ?
12:02 Penguin Just Suggestion
12:02 OldCoder Penguin, Explain please
12:02 OldCoder That is fine
12:02 OldCoder Explain if you wish
12:02 OldCoder and join a server now
12:02 Penguin okay
12:02 OldCoder Wait
12:02 OldCoder Problem
12:02 OldCoder Stopping
12:02 Penguin what problem
12:03 OldCoder I don't know yet
12:03 OldCoder Possibly due to one of those new mods you requested
12:03 Penguin Btw The Trash Mod Has the Nyan Cat Texture
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12:03 OldCoder NekoGloop, I am building new stuff today including the patch you wanted
12:03 Jordach hey NekoGloop
12:03 OldCoder NekoGloop, you also have your avatar now
12:04 OldCoder Penguin, regarding Nyan Cat go on
12:04 NekoGloop OldCoder: Already have it.
12:04 OldCoder NekoGloop, fine
12:04 Penguin Oldcoder The Trash Mod Has the Nyan Cat Texture Could That Be A Problem
12:05 OldCoder Penguin, suggest a fix
12:05 KikaRz OldCoder
12:05 OldCoder KikaRz, yes?
12:05 KikaRz how i get into the minetest.conf (in the vps) ?
12:05 OldCoder KikaRz, using nano
12:05 Penguin Ask For Texture Change ? Maby
12:05 KikaRz ...
12:05 OldCoder As I mentioned last night
12:05 KikaRz but how?
12:05 KikaRz i have nano
12:05 OldCoder KikaRz, what step is stopping you?
12:05 BambooVase what vps?
12:05 KikaRz m13.
12:05 OldCoder KikaRz, would you like me to ssh in?
12:05 OldCoder Tell m13 to see me
12:06 KikaRz OldCoder
12:06 OldCoder I may already have the password
12:06 KikaRz teamviewer, you got ?
12:06 OldCoder KikaRz, Not now
12:06 OldCoder It is slow
12:06 OldCoder It is Windows
12:06 * OldCoder hates Windows
12:06 OldCoder KikaRz, I will ssh in and fix it
12:06 OldCoder I may already have his pass
12:06 OldCoder Which server is this?
12:06 KikaRz query.
12:06 KikaRz or go to #m13
12:07 NekoGloop You dont have to state you hate windows.
12:07 OldCoder I have PMd
12:07 OldCoder NekoGloop, thank you for this news
12:07 NekoGloop If you are not me and spend any amount of time here, you hate windows.
12:10 Penguin whats the problem Old coder
12:12 Penguin Old Coder This inventory warp is good and better  u would have to remove the inventory gui though its cool http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3812
12:17 OldCoder Penguin, I must fix crashes
12:17 OldCoder Worlds are not starting
12:18 Penguin Dont Add Trash Mod
12:18 Penguin The Textures Are Messed Up
12:20 Penguin joined #minetest
12:22 OldCoder 12:22:06: ERROR[main]: Game "minetest_game" not found
12:22 OldCoder Great
12:22 OldCoder Getting that now and I have no idea why
12:22 OldCoder Hmm
12:23 NekoGloop Because all hell is breaking loose.
12:23 OldCoder Hmm
12:24 john_minetest does player_textures also work for 3d (mesh) player?
12:24 Penguin Sorry Coder
12:24 Jordach john_minetest - no, it does not
12:24 john_minetest okay.
12:25 john_minetest but would be a real improvement if this would be possible soon.
12:26 Penguin :(
12:27 Penguin Sorry Coder
12:28 OldCoder Penguin, busy because something basic is broken now
12:28 Jordach john_minetest - i assume it is possible
12:28 Jordach but that needs some magic
12:28 Penguin Sorry Coder
12:28 OldCoder This is why I dislike updates
12:28 OldCoder and changes
12:29 Jordach (same ere. gmip 2.8 is crap)
12:29 OldCoder Yes!
12:29 OldCoder WTF is happening
12:30 Penguin OldCoder whats Happend
12:30 OldCoder Everything is totally broken
12:30 OldCoder Working
12:30 OldCoder I mean, I am working on this
12:30 OldCoder KikaRz, I can't talk further ATM. I will need the pass to help. Period. I helped him set up that VPS.
12:31 KikaRz hate razor.
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12:33 OldCoder Did they change where the game looks for _game directories??
12:34 OldCoder I swear I'll never update again
12:34 OldCoder
12:34 Penguin_ is this my fault
12:34 OldCoder celeron55, do you know if upstream has changed where --game looks?
12:34 OldCoder Penguin_, no
12:34 OldCoder Relax... just working on something that is an issue
12:34 OldCoder --gameid I mean
12:34 KikaRz Who is Razor?
12:35 OldCoder ?
12:35 KikaRz who is Razor in-game?
12:35 KikaRz from irc.
12:35 OldCoder I have no idea
12:35 KikaRz that stupid griefer
12:35 Jordach razor can be anyone here
12:35 Jordach (bar me)
12:35 OldCoder We can block his subnet
12:35 KikaRz next time that destroy my house, put blocks or something, ill ban him
12:36 KikaRz he says: I know very well UbuntuNErd etc.
12:36 OldCoder I think I see the problem
12:36 OldCoder The game will be fixed soon
12:36 NekoGloop Sounds like razor represents the first alice. And LM the second.
12:37 OldCoder Please not this early
12:37 OldCoder Who is the 3rd Alice?
12:37 NekoGloop Just musing.
12:37 NekoGloop The song has not ended yet.
12:37 OldCoder Penguin_, what is this new mod?
12:37 OldCoder NekoGloop, Indeed
12:38 Jordach HEH
12:38 Jordach DAMN keyboard, y u disconnect?!
12:38 OldCoder O.K.
12:38 OldCoder Things will come back
12:39 NekoGloop Charming the people of wonderland to every beck and call... I suppose the third alice will attempt to undermine you by gaining your trust.
12:39 OldCoder Hmm
12:39 OldCoder NekoGloop, can't they all just go for tea or something?
12:39 NekoGloop Heh.
12:39 OldCoder I got crashes to fix
12:39 OldCoder And real life work to do
12:40 KikaRz .FAIL
12:40 OldCoder Kitty Avatars to add
12:40 NekoGloop A tea party with blue roses, a line from the fourth one.
12:40 KikaRz PRESSED A KEY THAT TURNED OFF SERVER
12:40 KikaRz D;
12:40 KikaRz WHAT NOW?
12:40 OldCoder KikaRz, I will teach you
12:40 KikaRz yea
12:40 OldCoder But I will need to do it there
12:40 KikaRz now i know the directory
12:40 OldCoder Good
12:40 KikaRz kika's fail
12:40 OldCoder It is fine
12:40 KikaRz its in ~/minetest-0.4.3/bin
12:41 KikaRz so, need to cd /minetest-0.4.3
12:41 OldCoder NekoGloop, gain trust is irrelevant if somebody is trustworthy
12:41 KikaRz then minetest.conf
12:41 OldCoder That depends on their motives
12:41 OldCoder KikaRz, yes
12:41 Jordach OldCoder - PS/2 is old school. but its more reliable than USB at times.
12:41 OldCoder Yes
12:41 KikaRz how i open in the editor the minetest.conf?
12:42 KikaRz i've forgot the program
12:42 NekoGloop Notepad++
12:42 KikaRz not that
12:42 KikaRz -.-
12:42 KikaRz im in a vps
12:42 OldCoder nano
12:42 KikaRz not in windows
12:42 KikaRz Ok
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12:43 KikaRz then to save?
12:44 OldCoder Yes
12:44 OldCoder Control X I think
12:44 KikaRz what i do to save?
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12:44 KikaRz control x?
12:44 OldCoder Control X I think
12:44 OldCoder Maybe
12:44 KikaRz what control?
12:44 * OldCoder sighs
12:44 KikaRz ah!
12:44 KikaRz yea
12:44 NekoGloop ctrl+x
12:44 OldCoder KikaRz, to help I will need the pass in the future
12:45 OldCoder What was the next mod Penguin_ wanted?
12:45 KikaRz well
12:45 KikaRz how i open it now?
12:45 KikaRz cd bin
12:45 KikaRz ls
12:45 OldCoder KikaRz, See above
12:45 KikaRz minetestserver is in green
12:45 OldCoder No more without pass
12:45 OldCoder It is very tiring
12:45 KikaRz so, it must be minetestserver.sh
12:45 OldCoder To support this blind
12:46 KikaRz ... come on
12:46 OldCoder Penguin_, that new mod is not compatible
12:46 KikaRz please, tell me
12:47 OldCoder KikaRz, that is not the issue
12:47 KikaRz how i enter the minetestserver?
12:47 OldCoder KikaRz, I am very tired and will not comment unless I can see the files. Do not ask me again without the pass. Period.
12:47 KikaRz ...
12:47 OldCoder I helped him *set up* these VPS
12:47 OldCoder He has asked me to *pay for* the new one!
12:47 KikaRz root@ubuntu:~/minetest-0.4.3/bin# ls
12:47 KikaRz debug.txt  minetestserver
12:47 OldCoder If you have a problem with this go speak with him please
12:47 OldCoder Rebuild in progress
12:48 KikaRz minetestserver in green.
12:49 OldCoder Rebuild is proceeding quickly
12:50 KikaRz ...
12:50 Penguin_ is server back
12:50 KikaRz how i launch minetestserver?
12:50 KikaRz need to compile it?
12:51 OldCoder Penguin_, It will be fine. All is well. I am rebuilding.
12:51 OldCoder KikaRz, see above please; thank you.
12:51 PilzAdam back
12:51 KikaRz OldCoder, can't give you password without his permission.
12:51 OldCoder I have a friend who says he is unhappy. I must help him.
12:51 KikaRz only with teamviewer.
12:51 OldCoder KikaRz, I am not interested in discussing the matter further
12:52 OldCoder KikaRz, with all due respect please stop
12:52 Penguin_ is server back thought
12:52 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hi
12:52 OldCoder Penguin_, It will be fine. All is well. I am rebuilding.
12:52 OldCoder Penguin_, there are many new features and changes
12:52 OldCoder Changes bring difficulties though
12:53 OldCoder A friend has PMd and is in trouble. I will be focused on his problem for a while.
12:54 Penguin_ i dont get you yes Or no ? confused
12:55 OldCoder Penguin_, I am sorry that you are confused. People often do not understand me. I have stated the situation as clearly as possible. I regret any confusion.
12:55 OldCoder Penguin_, See above please
12:56 Penguin_ so it is back ?
12:56 OldCoder Penguin_, There is a friend who is panicked about a real life issue. I am busy there. No, it is not back. Please see above. I am rebuilding.
12:57 OldCoder Penguin_, changes broke things
12:57 OldCoder Penguin_, therefore I must rebuild
12:57 OldCoder Penguin_, I do not know how to say that more clearly
12:57 OldCoder Penguin_, I do not like changes very much
12:58 Penguin_ sorry and okay
12:58 OldCoder It is fine
12:58 OldCoder I am checking the output now
12:58 OldCoder Penguin_, KikaRz others what you need to understand is... things take time and effort
12:58 KikaRz ...
12:58 KikaRz shut up.
12:58 OldCoder ... indeed
12:59 OldCoder I have stated the obvious. Hardly calls for shut up.
12:59 OldCoder And BTW KikaRz I have helped M13 for months with his projects
12:59 OldCoder You are the one who should consider her words
12:59 OldCoder D:
12:59 OldCoder
13:00 OldCoder granted http://minetestm13.com/ is not updated. That is his decision and not mine
13:00 OldCoder
13:01 OldCoder When you have contributed and been useful KikaRz then you may tell people to "shut up"
13:01 OldCoder
13:01 KikaRz OldCoder, that was not my problem
13:01 KikaRz but yes your.
13:01 KikaRz Reason: I couldnt give you the login things
13:01 KikaRz because i was not authorized to give you
13:01 OldCoder KikaRz, I honestly don't care ATM
13:02 OldCoder And I have told you
13:02 OldCoder I am not interested in discussing it
13:02 OldCoder The issue is not *my* problem
13:02 OldCoder I have no obligation to help you or others
13:02 OldCoder I do so because this is what I choose
13:02 OldCoder D:
13:02 OldCoder
13:02 OldCoder Do not PM me here ATM
13:02 OldCoder I do not choose to PM with you
13:02 OldCoder
13:03 KikaRz ...
13:03 KikaRz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9U0k_1H3eQ&amp;feature=channel&amp;list=UL
13:03 OldCoder ...
13:03 KikaRz ... = b*stard for me.
13:03 KikaRz *bastard thing
13:03 Penguin_ KikaRz STFU Your A Wast Of Time If YOu DONT LIKE So One Or Thing DOnt Comment SIMPLe
13:03 OldCoder Be nice Penguin_
13:03 KikaRz ...
13:03 KikaRz Penguin_, nobody talked with you
13:05 KikaRz need to build the spawn.
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13:09 Penguin_ No Offence But If You Dont Like Something Why Comment
13:10 OldCoder Penguin_, I'd drop it
13:10 OldCoder Penguin_, almost done I hope
13:12 KikaRz when sh the file minetestserver: 14: minetestserver: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
13:12 KikaRz when bash :
13:12 KikaRz minetestserver: minetestserver: cannot execute binary file
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13:15 KikaRz FINALLY!
13:15 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi
13:15 KikaRz i've forgot an alternative
13:15 KikaRz ./minetestserver (works too.)
13:15 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
13:16 KikaRz OldCoder, an error occured
13:16 KikaRz 19:16:06: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
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13:17 KikaRz :/
13:17 Penguin_ is server back ?
13:18 OldCoder Penguin_, I am working on it
13:19 babyface1031 Hi Penguin
13:19 KikaRz Now, fixed.
13:20 KikaRz server was running in second place.
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13:27 OldCoder Penguin_, babyface1031 Join and see if things work or crash
13:27 OldCoder babyface1031, Please try the gate that crashed before
13:27 babyface1031 ok
13:27 Penguin_ ookay
13:29 OldCoder babyface1031, I fixed your avatar up a bit
13:29 babyface1031 oh cool
13:29 OldCoder You look good
13:30 OldCoder Penguin_, you look good too
13:31 OldCoder babyface1031, TP to Penguin and take a look
13:31 babyface1031 ok
13:31 OldCoder babyface1031, What do you think of him?
13:31 OldCoder Ah
13:31 babyface1031 i like it
13:33 KikaRz how we can craft wools?
13:33 OldCoder babyface1031, stand next to him
13:33 KikaRz can someone answer me please?
13:33 babyface1031 ok
13:33 OldCoder Say cheese
13:33 KikaRz cheese
13:33 babyface1031 cheese
13:33 KikaRz lol
13:34 Penguin_ i keep geting acess
13:34 OldCoder babyface1031, thank you
13:34 OldCoder Done
13:35 babyface1031 ok
13:36 KikaRz who can tell me how to craft wools?
13:36 PilzAdam KikaRz, you cant craft wool in current minetest_game
13:36 KikaRz ok
13:36 KikaRz just in creative, right?
13:37 PilzAdam or /giveme wool:white
13:37 KikaRz its a new user into the server that wants to get wool
13:38 OldCoder
13:38 OldCoder http://minetest.org/avatars.jpg
13:39 OldCoder babyface1031, Penguin_, PilzAdam, KikaRz, celeron55, VanessaE, Jordach, thexyz: The new 2D avatars using PilzAdam code will look like this. Just 2D but they are fun
13:39 OldCoder
13:39 babyface1031 i like them ty
13:39 KikaRz Ok :D
13:40 Penguin_ There Amazing
13:40 Penguin_ Thanks
13:40 Penguin_ Oldcoder
13:41 OldCoder Penguin_, y w
13:41 OldCoder Penguin_, you like? :-)
13:41 Penguin_ yes i like a lot
13:42 OldCoder Very well!
13:42 ruskie mmm really need to make one of those for myself
13:42 OldCoder Worlds are not guaranteed to work perfectly today. Several changes. Please test and report stuff.
13:43 OldCoder ruskie, rules are very simple: Transparent background. Height must be exactly double width. Two images front and back. Back outline must match front outline exactly.
13:43 OldCoder Models:
13:43 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player.png
13:43 OldCoder http://minetest.org/player_back.png
13:43 OldCoder
13:43 OldCoder Back side does not need to be exact for feet
13:43 OldCoder
13:45 OldCoder It is time for an old coder to rest again for a little while. Report crashes and bugs later. Changes include fix for crashes, scaffolding mod, unified bricks, 2D avatars, some internal work
13:45 OldCoder
13:45 OldCoder Zzz
13:46 OldCoder Oh and most worlds have More Flags now plus Vanessa Flowers are updated
13:46 OldCoder
13:49 KikaRz ill make my skin
13:50 ruskie heh I'll adjust my avatar to fit... it'll probably look horrible though=
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13:59 KikaRz Welcome Valkis
13:59 KikaRz How are you?
13:59 Valkis got it
13:59 Valkis fine u?
14:02 KikaRz who is Herobrine ingame?
14:02 Valkis ?
14:02 KikaRz IP : 82.113.106.79
14:02 KikaRz FAIL
14:02 KikaRz Valkis, im going to turn again the server on
14:02 Valkis k
14:04 Valkis when tou turn it down?
14:04 Valkis you*
14:20 babyface1031 anyone know of a texture pack that has a diffrent texture for the trash can mod
14:22 KikaRz Valkis
14:22 KikaRz its now on
14:22 KikaRz oh.
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14:28 KikaRz what is a sweeper for?
14:28 ruskie to make empty bookshelves
14:28 KikaRz ok
14:32 KikaRz i made an original farm
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14:35 KikaRz hi again iqualfragile
14:36 PilzAdam any opinions about these changes of the fire mod? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/53
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14:51 rubenwardy hi all
14:56 KikaRz Hi :D
14:57 rubenwardy wuu2?
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15:08 rubenwardy PilzAdam: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/download.php
15:08 rubenwardy Made it so it automatically detects the Operating System
15:08 celeron55 PilzAdam: i guess those could be reasonable
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15:15 KikaRz Who here plays that famous mice game? (Transformice)
15:19 KikaRz PilzAdam
15:20 KikaRz I can use my minecraft front skin?
15:22 rubenwardy Minetest has been submitted to IGN
15:22 KikaRz YAAAAAAAAY
15:22 KikaRz :D
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15:25 rubenwardy1 ^^ sfan5 ^^
15:36 rubenwardy almost, pilzadam: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/forum/
15:37 KikaRz PilzAdam
15:37 KikaRz the skin size must be 128x256 ? O_O'
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15:37 KikaRz PilzAdam, are you there=?
15:38 Jordach rubenwardy i seem to be loggen in as you
15:39 rubenwardy no, it is not really linked up
15:40 rubenwardy look again, much nicer
15:43 sfan5 rubenwardy: yay
15:51 rubenwardy what does everyone think about this: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/forum/
15:51 rubenwardy (apart from the issues, that quite stand out)
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15:59 KikaRz my skin is already done
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16:20 rubenwardy is Hybrid Dog here?
16:22 rubenwardy this chat room is boring today
16:25 PilzAdam back
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16:38 KikaRz PilzAdam
16:38 KikaRz rubenwardy
16:38 KikaRz they went to the church
16:38 rubenwardy hi?
16:39 KikaRz Hi
16:40 rubenwardy hi
16:41 KikaRz Hi
16:43 rubenwardy Hi
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16:48 KikaRz PilzAdam_win, can you answer me'
16:52 PilzAdam_win hma, what?
16:52 PilzAdam_win -a
16:53 PilzAdam_win KikaRz: whats your question?
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16:58 KikaRz Nothing
16:59 Calinou Taoki: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/commit/364c3ee89061f46758505667179622927e7715d2 < why?
16:59 PilzAdam_win ok... ?
16:59 Calinou consumers are gonna laugh at moonwalk :P
16:59 Calinou (consumers here means MC players :P)
17:04 john_minetest moonwalk? lol...
17:04 john_minetest moonwalk is a feature, not a bug.
17:04 Calinou rofl
17:04 Calinou I'm looking like desert sand for some reason on my local server
17:05 john_minetest we should make a moonwalk animation that is played when you hold m and go backwards. and then "thriller" is played.
17:06 Calinou works now
17:06 Calinou lol
17:06 Jordach what
17:06 Jordach ?!?
17:10 VanessaE hi all.
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17:12 PilzAdam_win hi VanessaE, guess what OS im on
17:12 OldCoder Back
17:12 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi Back
17:12 VanessaE PilzAdam_win: I guess OSX ;)
17:12 VanessaE hey OldCoder
17:13 PilzAdam_win wtf; i hate apple
17:15 VanessaE I was kidding jeez :-)
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17:17 rubenwardy VanessaE: I submited minetest to ign
17:17 VanessaE cool
17:18 PilzAdam_win VanessaE: even in a theoretical kidding-world i hate apple
17:18 VanessaE PilzAdam_win: ok..um..BeOS? ;-)
17:18 VanessaE (or whatever they call it now)
17:18 PilzAdam_win BeOS... ?
17:19 VanessaE nevermind :-)
17:22 Calinou lol
17:22 Calinou continuous_forward = true allows you to move without running animation
17:23 PilzAdam_win okay, OS hopping again :-)
17:25 OldCoder penguin what is Useful Desert mod
17:25 OldCoder Hmm he is not here
17:25 Jordach VanessaE hello
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17:26 Jordach hello PilzAdam
17:26 babyface1031 i can ask him OldCoder
17:26 PilzAdam windows booting is 100 times slower than Linux's
17:26 OldCoder babyface1031, ask him for a link
17:26 OldCoder babyface1031, I saw him say it in in-game chat
17:26 OldCoder But I can't find out which mod he means
17:26 babyface1031 ok
17:27 OldCoder babyface1031, BTW I can see chat but not talk unless I join game
17:27 babyface1031 ok
17:27 VanessaE hey Jordach
17:27 KikaRz PilzAdam
17:27 KikaRz can you send me your mod?
17:28 babyface1031 this might be it
17:28 babyface1031 pilzadamn
17:28 babyface1031 sorry
17:28 babyface1031 let me try again
17:28 babyface1031 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3761
17:29 PilzAdam KikaRz, wich mod?
17:29 OldCoder babyface1031, That says "More" Useful Deserts
17:29 babyface1031 i will ask if thats it
17:29 OldCoder babyface1031, Is that the one Penguin means? Does not sound the same
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17:29 babyface1031 i will ask
17:30 babyface1031 he said yeah
17:30 OldCoder Hmm
17:31 OldCoder
17:31 OldCoder babyface1031, If you talk to others see if there is consensus about this mod
17:31 babyface1031 ok i will when ppl get on
17:31 OldCoder Or here
17:31 rubenwardy http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/website/forum/
17:31 rubenwardy you can now change backgrounds. Go to profile > settings > style when logged in
17:32 OldCoder k
17:32 babyface1031 ok no one from 30004 is on here now too
17:33 OldCoder babyface1031, you can ask anybody
17:33 babyface1031 oh ok
17:34 babyface1031 what does everyone think of this mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3761 is it a good one to have
17:34 OldCoder Safe etc.
17:34 OldCoder Mostly
17:34 OldCoder Does it break things
17:34 babyface1031 yes and everything OldCoder said^
17:34 OldCoder babyface1031, BTW Please try the gate that wasn't working in your world
17:35 babyface1031 ok i will try again
17:36 babyface1031 works for me but it is my protect block there should i ask penguin if he can come over and see if it works for him
17:36 OldCoder babyface1031, Yes
17:37 babyface1031 it worked for him
17:37 OldCoder k
17:37 OldCoder t y
17:37 OldCoder babyface1031, tell him I will restart the worlds with Desert Uses added
17:38 OldCoder In the next 10 to 45 minutes probably
17:38 babyface1031 ok
17:45 KikaRz PilzAdam, the mod that let us get with a skin
17:45 KikaRz well OldCoder
17:45 KikaRz i already done my skin
17:45 OldCoder KikaRz, Let's see it
17:46 KikaRz next to the shower,ill snd you
17:48 KikaRz OldCoder, i cant send you now because my computer i s lagging
17:49 KikaRz well, back part is higher
17:49 KikaRz than the front
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18:03 Calinou from 31 to 9 creative inventory pages...
18:04 Calinou stairs from stairs+ and more blocks are now hidden, as well as map tools blocks/items
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18:11 john_minetest is there a 3d player server anywhere?
18:16 KikaRz idk
18:17 KikaRz OldCOder
18:17 KikaRz can i send you the skin now?
18:19 OldCoder KikaRz, Yes
18:19 OldCoder KikaRz, feel free to paste the front and back to:
18:20 OldCoder http://imgur.com/.
18:20 OldCoder http://imgur.com/
18:20 OldCoder *
18:20 OldCoder They will give you a delete link
18:20 OldCoder You can use it to delete afterward
18:20 OldCoder Or you can upload a ZIP of the two images to:
18:20 OldCoder http://sendspace.com/
18:20 OldCoder That would be better
18:20 OldCoder They will give you a delete link also
18:21 jordan4ibanez Where are nekogloop's gates?
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18:25 jordan4ibanez In case anyone wants neko's gate mod https://dl.dropbox.com/s/gkrccqfeo9cjb5t/gates.zip?dl=1
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18:32 Jordach_ oh damn
18:32 Jordach_ i look away for a single day and i have 200+ emails
18:54 KikaRz hi Muadtralk
18:54 KikaRz what are those gates?
18:54 KikaRz hi Jordach
18:55 KikaRz OldCoder
18:55 KikaRz ill host in dropbox
18:58 KikaRz OldCoder
18:58 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_
18:59 KikaRz they are transparent
18:59 KikaRz see if that skins are good
19:01 KikaRz dinning... CEREALS *_*
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19:01 KikaRz OldCoder
19:01 KikaRz you've seen my images?
19:01 KikaRz *my skin ?
19:02 jordan4ibanez jordach_ server is up
19:02 Jordach_ fuuuuuu--- hamachi
19:02 jordan4ibanez It's the fastest server there is, ask infinityproject 8]
19:03 KikaRz what Jordach_ ?
19:03 PilzAdam 3D models are now officialy upstream!
19:03 KikaRz YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
19:03 KikaRz hey
19:03 KikaRz Pilz
19:03 KikaRz What thing?
19:03 KikaRz *what model?
19:03 KikaRz the minecraft one?
19:03 jordan4ibanez sfan5
19:04 jordan4ibanez time to fire up your build pc
19:04 KikaRz OLDCODEEEEEEER!
19:05 jordan4ibanez Holy shit that's a lot of commit
19:05 jordan4ibanez commits*
19:05 KikaRz lol
19:05 KikaRz PilzAdam
19:05 KikaRz the model will be made of that form of minecraft? (like head in a place, body in other... legs...
19:05 Jordach_ yes
19:06 KikaRz :D
19:06 Penguin joined #minetest
19:06 KikaRz ill use my 3D skin
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19:06 Penguin hi
19:06 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_.
19:06 KikaRz thats the 2D
19:06 KikaRz Hi Penguin
19:07 * Jordach_ dances rapidly
19:07 jordan4ibanez Finally
19:08 KikaRz yea :D
19:09 Jordach_ jordan4ibanez - whats the minimal needed client
19:09 jordan4ibanez 0.4.3 stable for windows
19:09 KikaRz Jordan4ibanez
19:09 KikaRz you got a server?
19:09 KikaRz i want to build *-*
19:09 jordan4ibanez i have no idea what version that actually is, just 0.4.3
19:09 KikaRz its 0.4.3
19:09 jordan4ibanez http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3822
19:10 KikaRz LOVE HAMACHI
19:10 * Jordach_ is connecting
19:10 * KikaRz is connecting too
19:10 Jordach_ minetest. y u crash
19:11 KikaRz 'cause your pc sucks
19:11 Jordach_ KikaRz - better than yours
19:11 KikaRz and?
19:11 KikaRz I knwo controlling my computer
19:11 KikaRz you dont
19:11 Jordach_ it can handle REAL games
19:11 KikaRz i can handle BEST games (the old ones.)
19:12 Jordach_ 'tis debateable
19:12 KikaRz uh...
19:12 KikaRz jordan4ibanez wrote:
19:12 KikaRz LandMine wrote:
19:12 KikaRz jordan4ibanez wrote:
19:12 KikaRz I need people to help me test this.
19:12 KikaRz me :)
19:12 KikaRz I have heard what you do to servers, no thank you
19:12 KikaRz waaazzuuuuup everybody!!?!?!?!?!?! RedCrab your Server is AWESOME :D!
19:12 KikaRz LOL
19:13 KikaRz davidpace thinks that your server is from RedCrab
19:13 Jordach_ its called a signiture
19:13 * Jordach_ facepalms
19:13 KikaRz Oh
19:13 KikaRz its a signature
19:13 KikaRz fail
19:14 KikaRz jordan
19:14 KikaRz port?
19:14 KikaRz i got the ip
19:18 KikaRz jordan4ibanez
19:18 KikaRz port?
19:18 jordan4ibanez it's hamachi lol
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19:21 PilzAdam who likes this new apple textures? https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/commit/bb6b9d5868086de5eae446aaa761c9363bcb1f68
19:22 jordan4ibanez It is better
19:22 OldCoder Hi
19:22 OldCoder Busy ATM
19:26 VanessaE [11-25 14:26] <RealBadAngel> its ok
19:27 KikaRz jordan4ibanez
19:27 KikaRz PORT
19:28 KikaRz 30000 ?
19:28 jordan4ibanez yes
19:28 KikaRz you answered as:
19:28 KikaRz <jordan4ibanez> it's hamachi lol
19:31 neko259 OldCoder: I managed to log in minetest.org with the standard client! It seems to be minetest issue that it crashes, not client's one :(
19:31 neko259 jordan4ibanez: Hi :3
19:31 jordan4ibanez Hello, i have server now lol
19:31 neko259 Great!
19:31 neko259 Stable one?
19:35 MiJyn hi jordan4ibanez!
19:36 jordan4ibanez hi mijyn
19:36 jordan4ibanez and yes nekogloop
19:36 KikaRz server crash?
19:36 OldCoder Hi
19:36 KikaRz OldCoder
19:36 KikaRz see my skin.
19:36 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_.
19:36 jordan4ibanez no, you are timing out because you are in germany
19:36 OldCoder Dealing with a problem elsewhere but I look forward to this in a few minutes
19:36 KikaRz No im not
19:36 KikaRz Im in Portugal
19:37 jordan4ibanez exactly lol
19:37 neko259 Does anyone know minetest debian repository for stable debians?
19:37 KikaRz you re at USA?
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19:38 jordan4ibanez yes i am
19:38 KikaRz what state?
19:38 jordan4ibanez Guess
19:44 KikaRz jordan4ibanez, impossibru to play for me D;
19:44 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: did you say something?
19:44 OldCoder KikaRz, will review shortly
19:44 sokomine neko: i didn't found a working debian package for minetest some month ago when i last searched. donloading the source and compiling it works fine
19:45 sokomine takes only a couple of minutes to compile even on a not-so-recent machine...
19:46 sokomine 3d player went upstream? does that mean the "official" sources now include everything needed?
19:46 sokomine and what happened to realbadangles server?
19:47 VanessaE come on guys I need body count on the test server. :-)
19:47 VanessaE sokomine: grab that update (and minetest_game) and sign on :-)
19:47 sokomine hm :) do you have the new 3d-version installed? then you'd get another visit from me immediately :)
19:47 VanessaE sfan5, OldCoder, jordan4ibanez, you too
19:47 OldCoder k
19:47 OldCoder VanessaE, today if possible
19:48 john_minetest what server is 3d?
19:48 KikaRz yea
19:48 KikaRz what?
19:48 john_minetest what's the ip and the port?
19:48 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30001
19:48 KikaRz that's not hamachi? o-o
19:48 VanessaE FUCK NO.
19:48 KikaRz '-'
19:49 VanessaE hamachi?  DIAF. :-)
19:49 KikaRz i said 'that's not hamachi' because its ip its almost equal
19:49 VanessaE heh
19:49 KikaRz what that server got?
19:49 KikaRz 3D Players?
19:49 KikaRz we must have 3D players mod?
19:49 VanessaE for now, entirely default, 3d players official upstream, and carts mod.
19:49 jordan4ibanez sfan5, there is a new version with 3d players
19:49 VanessaE I'll add a "shitload of mods" later, if others want.
19:49 KikaRz but its loaded from server?
19:50 sokomine ah, hm, the version from yesterday seems out of date?
19:50 VanessaE but it'll take an ice age to load.
19:50 jordan4ibanez could you compile it? 8)
19:50 sokomine carts as well?
19:50 * sokomine hops around happily
19:50 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: do you mean mirceakitsune/models ?
19:50 VanessaE sokomine: grab the very latest git from about an hour ago.
19:50 jordan4ibanez no, minetest itself
19:50 jordan4ibanez it's pushed upstream
19:50 KikaRz what version are you using at?
19:50 VanessaE KikaRz: minetest master branch fetched less than an hour ago.
19:51 sfan5 ohhhhhhhh
19:51 KikaRz omg
19:51 jordan4ibanez YES :D
19:51 KikaRz i cant compile it because im using windows
19:51 VanessaE sowwy
19:52 sfan5 Win Build started! @jordan4ibanez @KikaRz
19:52 KikaRz :D
19:52 KikaRz thank you sfan5
19:52 KikaRz :)
19:52 KikaRz you so friendly
19:52 jordan4ibanez :D thanks sfan55
19:52 KikaRz VanessaE, you're evil :/
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19:53 Doc22 'ello
19:53 KikaRz ALERT
19:53 VanessaE sorry, I only run Linux.  never touch windows.
19:53 KikaRz CARTS MOD AND 3D PLAYERS ARE NOW OFFICIAL :D
19:53 Doc22 SRSLY?
19:53 Doc22 they are now on the update?
19:53 KikaRz yep
19:54 Doc22 YUS
19:54 Doc22 SCHWEET
19:54 jordan4ibanez Carts?
19:54 KikaRz yes
19:54 jordan4ibanez Link? ASDASDASGSSDF
19:54 PilzAdam the attachment branch of carts works with upstream now
19:54 VanessaE well, a forest fire doesn't seem to kill my server CPU any, that's a good sign
19:54 * sokomine is compiling
19:54 KikaRz and 3d players
19:55 jordan4ibanez Pilzadam: Link?
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19:57 KikaRz sfan5, how much time left?
19:57 KikaRz it'll support DIrect3D'
19:57 KikaRz ?
19:58 sfan5 exactly 0 secs, yes
19:58 babyface1031 Doc22 me and Penguin have our finished skins you should come see
19:58 Doc22 oh cool
19:58 KikaRz what skins?
19:58 PilzAdam VanessaE, heres a link: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/39
19:58 KikaRz 2D?
19:58 sfan5 but minetest + direct3d = crap
19:58 KikaRz i finished mine too
19:58 jordan4ibanez These skins all work with minetest http://www.minecraftskins.com/
19:58 KikaRz sfan5, i can play only with direct3d
19:58 sfan5 LATEST MINETEST BUILD: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.3-c8acc37-win32.7z
19:58 Doc22 wait so mine is done?
19:58 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/attachment
19:58 KikaRz I've got 1 3d skin and 1 2d skin
19:59 jordan4ibanez sfan5,after i test it can i post it on the forum? :3
19:59 sfan5 yes
19:59 KikaRz sfan5
19:59 KikaRz how will skins work?
19:59 sfan5 is there support for personal skins yet?
19:59 sfan5 dunno
19:59 KikaRz i want my personal skin
19:59 KikaRz *-*
19:59 KikaRz its so beautiful
19:59 * sfan5 too
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20:00 jordan4ibanez Who wants to test it on my server? 8)
20:00 KikaRz i dont.
20:00 KikaRz your server is not hosted.
20:00 KikaRz so, it lags
20:01 sfan5 dafuck?
20:01 jordan4ibanez Lolwut, you're in portugal so it lags for you
20:01 sfan5 "your server is not hosted" every server has to be hosted or its not a server
20:02 sfan5 i'm going to join vanessae's server
20:02 KikaRz sfan5
20:02 KikaRz hosted = vps
20:02 VanessaE you guys having fun griefing my server? :-)
20:02 KikaRz vanessa
20:02 VanessaE good thing it's a free-for-all :D
20:02 KikaRz can you put there my skin?
20:02 KikaRz its so beautiful :D
20:02 VanessaE KikaRz: link?
20:03 KikaRz 2d or 3d?
20:03 jordan4ibanez Vanessae, link?
20:03 KikaRz with hat or without hat?
20:03 jordan4ibanez WHAT IS YOUR SERVER DAMMIT
20:03 KikaRz <VanessaE> 24.181.193.82 port 30001.
20:03 sfan5 <VanessaE> 24.181.193.82 port 30001
20:03 PilzAdam 24.181.193.82 port 30001
20:03 KikaRz vanessaE
20:04 KikaRz 2d or 3D?
20:04 KikaRz with hat or without hat?
20:04 Doc22 maybe my avatar should be an alien
20:04 Doc22 I live in roswell
20:04 VanessaE 3d.
20:04 KikaRz With hat or without hat'
20:04 KikaRz ?
20:05 Doc22 where can I find info on how to make skins
20:05 KikaRz https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_
20:05 KikaRz VanessaE, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_.
20:05 KikaRz Doc22, use SkinCraft
20:06 VanessaE bbiab, gotta run an errand.
20:06 VanessaE KikaRz: msg that to me so I don't lose it.
20:06 KikaRz VanessaE, link for 2D and 3D skin are there https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u1q9kjdom1518kc/e42QjnQFl_.
20:07 marktraceur Poll: Should I work on minetestmapper or mods, today? (please use my nick when responding)
20:07 sokomine what mods would you be working on?
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20:08 Jordach_ jordan4ibanez - is your server up
20:08 KikaRz sfan5
20:08 KikaRz NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
20:08 jordan4ibanez jordach!!
20:08 jordan4ibanez ttry latest
20:08 sfan5 VanessaE: how to make skins for minetest?
20:08 KikaRz :'(
20:08 KikaRz use 2DCraft
20:08 KikaRz and compile me the dll with direct3d
20:09 KikaRz :(
20:09 jin_xi marctraceur: you aware of mireq's c++ mapper?
20:09 sfan5 KikaRz: use opengl
20:09 KikaRz I CANT!
20:09 KikaRz NON SUPPORTED!
20:10 KikaRz pleaaaseee
20:10 sfan5 you don't have opengl?
20:10 Jordach_ you cant compile non foss on a foss os
20:10 sfan5 ^
20:10 Jordach_ (such as d3d)
20:10 sfan5 VanessaE: how to make skins for minetest?
20:10 KikaRz sfan5, my graphics card dont work with opengl
20:10 KikaRz everything keeps white
20:10 KikaRz and i cant play games with opengl
20:10 KikaRz just with direct3d
20:11 sfan5 i can't compile direct3d in because i'm on linux
20:11 KikaRz yes you can
20:11 sfan5 you need to compile for yourself
20:11 sfan5 sorry
20:11 sfan5 VanessaE: how to make skins for minetest?
20:11 KikaRz HOW I COMPILE IN WINDOWS?
20:11 KikaRz SFAN5, USE SKINCRAFT!
20:12 sokomine same as for minecraft afaik. just rename the file
20:12 sfan5 KikaRz: a skin in minecraft format
20:12 sfan5 ?
20:12 KikaRz yes
20:12 KikaRz look \games\minetest_game\default\textures
20:12 sfan5 KikaRz: https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/README.txt
20:12 sokomine afaik it uses the same format so that players can use the same skin on both minecraft and minetest. just the filename's diffrent
20:13 KikaRz yep
20:13 KikaRz Fail
20:13 KikaRz not textures
20:13 KikaRz but yes models
20:14 Jordach_ <sokomine> afaik it uses the same format so that players can use the same skin on both minecraft and minetest. just the filename's diffrent - incorrect sokomine - in fact the hat section of the skin is not loaded onto the model
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20:15 marktraceur jin_xi: No, VanessaE said someone had ported it but she couldn't remember who. Is there a pull request?
20:15 bulletrulz hi
20:15 KikaRz Im fucked up.
20:15 marktraceur sokomine: I'm planning on finishing the Factory mod, which will bring a bunch of other craftitems with it
20:15 KikaRz reason: my computer will take a lot of tiem to compile
20:15 marktraceur bulletrulz: Hi!
20:16 KikaRz VanessaE
20:16 KikaRz can you give me the github link?
20:16 KikaRz to download the files to compile?
20:17 Guest58731 I cannot compile on Slacko Puppy Linux 5.3.1
20:17 KikaRz yep
20:17 KikaRz i've tried too
20:17 KikaRz What's better: MinGW or Visual Studio?
20:18 Doc22 ok thanks KikaRz
20:18 Doc22 just had to eat lunch
20:18 KikaRz no problem
20:20 Doc22 wait so it supports hats?
20:20 marktraceur jin_xi: Ping, where is that C++ mapper port?
20:21 sfan5 VanessaE: hello?
20:22 KikaRz guys
20:22 sfan5 VanessaE: hello?
20:22 KikaRz who got the minetest_game?
20:25 KikaRz who can give me minetest_game ?
20:26 PilzAdam bye
20:26 ruskie grab it from the download pages/github
20:26 KikaRz ...
20:26 KikaRz link
20:26 ruskie search it it's not impossible
20:26 KikaRz ...
20:26 KikaRz GIVE ME
20:27 * ruskie hands KikaRz a banana without the pin and runs far far away...
20:27 KikaRz stfu.
20:27 KikaRz marktraceur, can you give me the link of the github minetest_game with player 3d and carts?
20:28 marktraceur KikaRz: I don't have it
20:28 KikaRz Doc22 ?
20:28 Doc22 yes
20:28 marktraceur KikaRz: At some point, you searching for it is much easier.
20:28 KikaRz i cant
20:28 marktraceur KikaRz: Because....?
20:28 KikaRz pc laggy.
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20:30 marktraceur KikaRz: So laggy that you can't open a web browser?
20:30 KikaRz well
20:30 KikaRz wrong.
20:30 KikaRz so laggy that i cant open github page
20:30 sokomine ah.w ell. hat section...the only time i found that intresting was when i was trying to find out if more could be made with minecraft players. didn't seem that easy. mostly i wanted cars...and npc...
20:30 marktraceur KikaRz: Then the link won't help you anyway!
20:31 KikaRz yes it does
20:31 marktraceur KikaRz: How's this: Close some running processes, and you might be able to search for it.
20:31 KikaRz ....
20:31 KikaRz cant
20:31 KikaRz im with the compilers on
20:31 KikaRz to compile the minetest_game updated
20:34 marktraceur KikaRz: Then wait until....wait, what? You don't need to compile minetest_game.
20:34 KikaRz Yes i need
20:34 KikaRz Reason: The new testing version
20:34 marktraceur KikaRz: No, Lua never needs to be compiled.
20:34 KikaRz (that one that got carts and 3d players)
20:34 KikaRz yes it does
20:34 KikaRz not the lua but yes game engine
20:34 jordan4ibanez That was really really nice
20:34 KikaRz REASON: It changes game protocol
20:34 marktraceur KikaRz: Game engine !== minetest_game
20:34 KikaRz ...
20:34 jordan4ibanez sfan5 can i have a link to that build again?
20:34 KikaRz ...
20:35 marktraceur KikaRz: minetest_game is the Lua parts, you're compiling the C++ parts.
20:35 Taoki OldCoder: If you haven't heard already, the 3D players have been merged upstream in MineTest :)
20:35 Taoki Telling you so you can also add them to your fork
20:35 KikaRz he already
20:35 marktraceur KikaRz: OK, so wait until after the compile is done to search.
20:35 Taoki There's just a small problem with the death animation, but the rest works well
20:35 KikaRz stop blipping me.
20:35 OldCoder Hi
20:35 KikaRz Taoki
20:35 Taoki ah, ok
20:35 KikaRz give me the link to the thing
20:35 marktraceur KikaRz: No. You want something, you're going to get highlighted in IRC.
20:35 OldCoder Taoki, Hi. I can't use upstream. It does not have LevelDB.
20:35 KikaRz stop blippign me
20:35 OldCoder But In the future it will
20:36 jordan4ibanez nevermind
20:36 marktraceur KikaRz: Turn off notifications if it's that bad, or here's an idea, take a walk while the game compiles
20:36 KikaRz stop blipping me... (last warning)
20:36 Taoki OldCoder: ok. Just the models code then... it is ready and working. Would be nice to see it on europe.minetest.org
20:36 KikaRz STOP THE FUCKING BLIPPING ME!!!!!!
20:36 KikaRz * Recebeu um CTCP VERSION de marktraceur = ?
20:37 marktraceur Huh, it didn't respond
20:37 KikaRz Received a CTCP VERSION from marktraceur
20:37 KikaRz that's ?
20:37 marktraceur Oh, there it is
20:37 sokomine well, death animation is less important. no need to kill each other :-)
20:37 KikaRz CTCP VERSION = ?
20:37 marktraceur KikaRz: It's a way for me to figure out your client version without asking you
20:37 OldCoder Taoki, can you provide a patch?
20:37 OldCoder A diff?
20:37 KikaRz its XCHAT 2
20:37 KikaRz OldCoder, who can provide me that thing
20:38 Taoki OldCoder: Not sure, I'll try to generate one from git if I can
20:38 KikaRz i want a direct3d dll compile.
20:38 OldCoder KikaRz, use HexChat
20:38 OldCoder http://hexchat.org/
20:38 KikaRz Stop blipping me please.
20:38 OldCoder Who is blipping who?
20:38 KikaRz when you say my name
20:38 KikaRz it appears re
20:38 KikaRz *red
20:38 KikaRz and blips me
20:38 KikaRz thats annoying
20:38 KikaRz who can give me the new git?
20:39 sokomine oldcoder: how extensive are the changes to allow leveldb to be used? perhaps it would be easier to apply a leveldb-patch to the new version
20:39 marktraceur KikaRz: Settings > Preferences > Chatting > Alerts. Uncheck all the checkboxes.
20:39 KikaRz marktraceur, no menus.
20:39 marktraceur KikaRz: What? None?
20:39 KikaRz yep
20:39 KikaRz its simple.
20:39 KikaRz OldCOder, can you give me the git???
20:40 marktraceur KikaRz: Yeah, use a different client....I've heard good things about Quassel
20:40 KikaRz No i'm not going to change
20:40 KikaRz i prefer this
20:40 KikaRz and stop blipping me
20:40 KikaRz i'm tired.
20:40 OldCoder KikaRz, the git?
20:40 KikaRz the windows xp sounds are a bit annoying
20:40 KikaRz yes
20:40 marktraceur KikaRz: Except that you can't stand the notification feature, and people aren't going to stop highlighting you
20:40 KikaRz the new protocol
20:40 OldCoder For what?
20:40 KikaRz that thing that got carts
20:40 OldCoder network protocol for MT?
20:40 KikaRz and 3d players
20:40 OldCoder Oh...
20:41 KikaRz ... carts and 3d players
20:41 marktraceur KikaRz: Why not turn down the sound on your computer speakers?
20:41 OldCoder I have not merged it yet
20:41 KikaRz marktraceur, arent speakers
20:41 jordan4ibanez Kikarz, turn down your volume lol
20:41 KikaRz but yes...
20:41 KikaRz HEADPHONES WITH MUSIC PLAYING!
20:41 KikaRz and thats annoying to listen music!!!!!!!11
20:42 marktraceur KikaRz: And there are absolutely no menus in your IRC client? Because I opened XChat and immediately saw menus. Can you screenshot your client, maybe?
20:42 KikaRz marktraceur, this is different
20:42 OldCoder Sounds can be turned off
20:42 KikaRz ... Im playing music.
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20:43 marktraceur KikaRz: He means in the menus. What's different?
20:43 KikaRz stop talking about my irc program
20:43 KikaRz and give me the git
20:43 KikaRz 3 minutes only.
20:43 OldCoder KikaRz, the git for what? I don't have it
20:43 marktraceur KikaRz: You're clearly bothered by the IRC settings, I'm trying to help.
20:44 KikaRz THAT ONE THAT GOT CARTS AND 3D PLAYER
20:44 OldCoder I don't have it
20:44 * KikaRz ignored marktraceur. Reason: shut up with my irc program!
20:44 * OldCoder shrugs
20:44 OldCoder marktraceur, you did try to help
20:44 marktraceur That's true.
20:44 marktraceur KikaRz: Sorry to hear that you don't want help, ta.
20:44 KikaRz oldcoder
20:45 KikaRz what he said?
20:45 KikaRz VanessaE, can you pass me the git with 3D players ? or sfan5 ?
20:46 sokomine oh, well, i tried to help kikarz as well and only got insulted. doesn't sound like any of you is really more successful?
20:46 marktraceur sokomine: No, KikaRz is seemingly only interested in yelling at people to get what she wants
20:46 sfan5 VanessaE: hello?
20:46 Muadtralk kikarz you want the links yes?
20:46 KikaRz Yes.
20:47 sokomine ah. well. i'm glad there's igno :-)
20:47 KikaRz sokomine, first: You didnt helped. You was like a robot telling stupid things (things that i knew)
20:47 Muadtralk https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/
20:47 * KikaRz unignored marktraceur.
20:47 marktraceur Ha, hilarious. Hi, KikaRz!
20:48 KikaRz ...
20:48 KikaRz muadtralk
20:48 KikaRz what i use?
20:48 Muadtralk https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/attachment
20:48 KikaRz minetest, minetest-game or minetest-delta (maybe not)
20:48 Jordach_ KikaRz - if youre going to shout and scream at people, its wisest not being here
20:48 Muadtralk minetest-delta?
20:48 KikaRz muadtralk, there is already a public test github
20:49 KikaRz of Carts, 3d players etc
20:49 KikaRz for testing
20:49 Muadtralk you wanted the git yes?
20:49 Muadtralk what better place to find it then github XD
20:49 marktraceur KikaRz: Especially if you want help, you are not served by talking IN ALL CAPS or swearing at people trying to help.
20:49 KikaRz marktraceur, you are just blipping me
20:49 KikaRz marktraceur, you like this too?
20:50 sfan5 VanessaE: hello?
20:50 KikaRz marktraceur, you believe that is annoying
20:50 KikaRz marktraceur, are you there?
20:50 KikaRz thats what i hate
20:50 marktraceur KikaRz: No, because I've edited my settings to work for me. So it's not annoying when people highlight me.
20:50 KikaRz ... you disabled sounds
20:50 Jordach_ no he did not
20:51 Jordach_ he turned off any notifications so no popups, et al
20:51 KikaRz you use irssi, ok.
20:51 KikaRz Jordach, your irc got menus?
20:51 Muadtralk whats the issue with IRC clients?
20:51 Muadtralk i thought kikarz wished for git of something
20:51 marktraceur KikaRz: Actually, I have popups and no sound, enabled via an SSH tunnel.
20:51 Jordach_ s/IRC clients?/everything
20:52 KikaRz Jordach, you got the same version as i. but more GHz in your Pentium 4 XD
20:52 KikaRz -Jordach_- VERSION xchat 2.8.6-2 Windows XP [Intel Pentium 4/3.07GHz]
20:52 KikaRz -KikaRz- VERSION xchat 2.8.6-2 Windows XP [Intel Pentium 4/1,50GHz]
20:53 marktraceur KikaRz: Actually, it's preferable (for me at least) to be highlighted on every message meant for me. It means I can watch the conversation without being in the window
20:55 VanessaE I'm back.  yay,
20:55 KikaRz vnessa
20:55 KikaRz can you give me the git of that thing?
20:55 * marktraceur giggles, watches
20:55 KikaRz i want to compile myself in direct3d
20:56 Muadtralk i gave you the ruddy links!
20:56 KikaRz muad not that
20:56 VanessaE KikaRz: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest  and  https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game
20:56 VanessaE that is, the usual repos
20:56 KikaRz they are updated to that test version?
20:56 KikaRz i want the test version
20:56 VanessaE yes
20:57 VanessaE the latest git has the 3d players code as default.
20:57 KikaRz ok
20:58 VanessaE this is a non-permanent free-for-all server, so I don't care about griefing :-)
20:58 KikaRz nom nom nom... love chocolate...
20:58 KikaRz want a little vanessa?
20:58 KikaRz or you are making diet?
20:58 VanessaE no thanks.
20:58 sfan5 VanessaE: do minecraft skins with hats work for the models?
20:58 VanessaE I can't have large amounts of sugar
20:59 VanessaE sfan5: yes.
20:59 VanessaE toh wait. with hats?
20:59 VanessaE um
20:59 VanessaE I dunno :-)
20:59 VanessaE Taoki: how about that?
20:59 KikaRz vanessa
20:59 sokomine someone said hats didn't work?
20:59 KikaRz i must give you the updated one!
20:59 Jordach_ twas me
20:59 Jordach_ i tested this
20:59 sokomine ah, ok
20:59 KikaRz with hat (headphones
20:59 Taoki sfan5: Hats? No, sadly not that part
20:59 sfan5 :(
20:59 Jordach_ KikaRz - and hat layer will not be displayed ingame
21:00 VanessaE KikaRz: sorry, I don't much like that model :-/
21:00 Taoki Can be added to the model, but maybe once armor will be in
21:00 KikaRz :(
21:00 Jordach_ so that 3d effect wont appear
21:00 KikaRz but i want to use it
21:00 Jordach_ you cant.
21:00 Taoki Hats and wearables would be better off as attached entities
21:00 KikaRz vanessae
21:00 KikaRz can i use it?
21:00 VanessaE but if it were a little more finished, blended, I could add it whenever Taoki is ready to give us proper gender-oriented models.
21:00 VanessaE it would make for a good female one.
21:00 KikaRz whyy ?
21:00 KikaRz :/
21:00 VanessaE KikaRz: sure, put it in your regular textures in your client.  no need to install it to the server.
21:00 KikaRz oh... that boobies thing
21:01 KikaRz ups...
21:01 jin_xi marktraceur: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2896
21:01 KikaRz there are kids in the channel
21:01 KikaRz xd
21:01 VanessaE KikaRz: no, it's grainy, blocky;.
21:01 Taoki VanessaE: Someone needs to script a player selector, which should be easy for someone who knows
21:01 KikaRz kidding
21:01 VanessaE it needs smoothing.
21:01 VanessaE Taoki: right.
21:01 KikaRz but vanessa
21:01 KikaRz the celeron github is updated with that version?
21:01 Jordach_ for gods sakes read this http://notch.tumblr.com/post/28188312756/gender-in-minecraft
21:01 VanessaE yes.
21:02 marktraceur jin_xi: Why is it in a separate repo? Shouldn't it be added to the minetest core code, and built with it? Not to mention using its libraries?
21:02 VanessaE who cares about minecraft.
21:02 KikaRz LOVED THAT PHRASE
21:02 KikaRz Also, as a fun side fact, it means every character and animal in Minecraft is homosexual because there’s only one gender to choose from. Take THAT, homophobes!
21:02 KikaRz TAKE THAT HOMOPHOBES
21:02 KikaRz xd
21:02 Jordach_ im talking about gender here
21:02 Jordach_ if you weight something one side others will moan its not the same
21:02 KikaRz it means every character and animal in Minecraft is homosexual because there’s only one gender to choose from.
21:02 KikaRz xd
21:03 VanessaE Jordach_: and I'm talking about, really, just letting the player choose what model he or she shall look like to everyone else.
21:03 KikaRz laughing
21:03 marktraceur KikaRz: Yes, we heard you, hilarious
21:03 VanessaE two - male and female - are the simplest step to lead to that
21:03 Jordach_ <VanessaE> Jordach_: and I'm talking about, really, just letting the player choose what model he or she shall look like to everyone else. - and thus problems will arrive because players wont know how to change such things
21:03 KikaRz marktraceur, how did you heard? i just typed.
21:03 jin_xi marktraceur: idk
21:03 VanessaE if they're too dumb to figure that out, then let them have whatever the default is.
21:03 VanessaE surely there will be a proper interface to it some time.
21:04 marktraceur jin_xi: mireq doesn't appear to be around here, are they ever?
21:04 Taoki I agree with a gender selector, but first we need a player selection system from the menu
21:04 Jordach_ VanessaE - oh yes, i want something that can be interpreted as anything
21:04 Taoki I suggest a craftable item for that. Wordrobe or something
21:04 Jordach_ s/Wordrobe/Wardrobe
21:04 Taoki Which will give a model / texture selection menu when right clicked
21:04 sfan5 ^ good idea
21:04 Jordach_ or just a clothing chest
21:04 KikaRz i just can use 1.7.3 ? http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/downloads/
21:04 Jordach_ (which is a normal chest)
21:04 Taoki Since just opening the menu with esc / i is boring. Better make it part of gameplay
21:05 Jordach_ Taoki - big big big problem
21:05 Taoki what's a problem?
21:05 Jordach_ youre a girl and you start as a dude
21:05 Jordach_ there a huge hold in that bucket
21:05 Jordach_ hole*
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21:06 sokomine would it be possible to make that nodebox-collection i wrote as a player model for pilzadams 3dplayer into a model as well?
21:06 Taoki I dunno then. Starting skin can be randomized or something... dunno for now
21:07 sokomine most players will be very happy with the mc-skins
21:07 jin_xi marktraceur: no
21:07 Taoki MineCraft has a male player too by default. You have to upload a new skin to your account to change it
21:07 Jordach_ Taoki - thats the best solution
21:07 KikaRz its steve.
21:07 marktraceur Jeez, that's not helpful.
21:07 Jordach_ people can be who they wish to be
21:07 Muadtralk we could put up a gender neutral one for everyone?
21:07 marktraceur jin_xi: Well, apart from *using* that version, I guess I'll leave the mapper alone. Thanks.
21:07 NakedFury just add 2 small 2 x 2 pixel big boxes to the 3d player models chest for female players
21:08 jin_xi marktraceur: just thougt you wanted to know there is one before you start writing yours *shrug*
21:08 marktraceur jin_xi: No, it seems better to use the existing solution is all :)
21:09 jordan4ibanez meep
21:09 Jordach_ meep
21:09 Muadtralk peem
21:10 Jordach_ i like to be different - im Mr. Monopoly! http://i.imgur.com/UqMeO.png
21:10 Muadtralk you discovered my secret identity!
21:11 Jordach_ (i crossed the current design with the old one)
21:11 Jordach_ anyways, im heading off to bed
21:11 Jordach_ as a quick note: i will more than likely be using the webchat due to me not being able to access my pc
21:11 Jordach_ (on a ipad, no not colluwquay, tis expensive)
21:12 Jordach_ night all
21:12 sokomine any ideas why the chat isn't shown on the new mt version with the models in? i can only read it when i press f10
21:12 marktraceur sokomine: Did you hit F2?
21:12 VanessaE I see it fine here, sokomine
21:12 Muadtralk so do I
21:12 marktraceur sokomine: F2 show/hide chat
21:12 Muadtralk you sure you haven't hit F2?
21:13 sokomine makrtraceur: thanks! that was it. must have accidently hit it
21:13 sokomine now everything's fine again .-)
21:14 jordan4ibanez Where is the latest carts?
21:14 Muadtralk https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/attachment
21:14 KikaRz *are
21:14 jordan4ibanez Now i can finally make carts into trains through entity linkage ^^
21:14 KikaRz VanessaE, you sure that the latest git is with 3d players and carts?
21:14 VanessaE yup
21:14 VanessaE I'm playing on it now
21:15 Muadtralk no carts by default!
21:15 Muadtralk please no!
21:15 KikaRz muadtralk
21:15 KikaRz this is up.... !
21:15 KikaRz so, it can be a future update
21:15 KikaRz carts *-*
21:15 VanessaE Muadtralk: why not?
21:15 jordan4ibanez Maudtralk they are actually very nice
21:15 KikaRz VanessaE
21:15 KikaRz will you shut down the server?
21:15 Muadtralk lag they always lag
21:15 KikaRz please, dont
21:15 KikaRz :(
21:15 jordan4ibanez Even by my standards
21:15 VanessaE this test server has carts, but they are not part of minetest_game, they're just a mod.
21:16 KikaRz oh
21:16 KikaRz ok
21:16 KikaRz but you cant shutdown the server until i be there?
21:16 KikaRz want to test really much
21:16 KikaRz *-*
21:16 VanessaE I'll keep it online for a while yet, but it's a free-for-all server so don't expect anything you build to survive :-)
21:17 KikaRz MinGW / Gcc takes a lot to download updated version
21:17 VanessaE never used mingw, good luck with it :-)
21:18 KikaRz so
21:18 KikaRz u used what
21:18 KikaRz to compile?
21:18 KikaRz i want a version with direct3d
21:18 VanessaE I use Linux, so I just built from the command line in the usual manner
21:18 KikaRz but nobody have
21:18 VanessaE linux comes with the tools necessary to compile software, makes it almost trivial.
21:18 Muadtralk with windows visual studio is the way to go
21:18 KikaRz ... link to download
21:18 KikaRz i dont want 2012 (windows 8 like)
21:19 Muadtralk visual studio isnt free :|
21:19 KikaRz ...
21:19 KikaRz <Muadtralk> with windows visual studio is the way to go
21:19 KikaRz so, why you talked me on it»?
21:19 VanessaE maybe sfan5|OFF can build it for you?  he does win builds.
21:19 Muadtralk cause its true
21:19 Muadtralk visual studio is good for compiling windows builds
21:19 KikaRz Vanessa
21:19 Muadtralk i never said it was free
21:20 KikaRz just with OpenGL
21:20 KikaRz not Direct3D.
21:20 VanessaE well opengl works better for most people.
21:20 KikaRz for me dont
21:20 KikaRz my graphics card dont support
21:21 VanessaE all graphics cards support opengl.
21:21 VanessaE it's the driver that may be at issue.
21:21 KikaRz no they dont
21:21 KikaRz the old ones dont
21:21 VanessaE um, yes.  they do.
21:21 KikaRz ...
21:21 KikaRz in LINUX
21:21 KikaRz not WINDOWS
21:22 VanessaE even the old ones do - it's a DRIVER thing, not a hardware thing.
21:22 jordan4ibanez Actually it is a hardware thing
21:22 KikaRz so, Tell NVidia to make new drivers for windows
21:22 jordan4ibanez My old mx400 didn't support opengl
21:22 VanessaE HAY, my mipmap etc. stuff doesn't work anymore in the latest git! :(
21:22 jordan4ibanez Back when i had a p2 ^^
21:22 KikaRz jordan4ibanez
21:22 KikaRz lets talk a little bit
21:22 KikaRz I got a NViDia GeForce 2 MX/MX 400
21:22 jordan4ibanez Okay we've already made process
21:23 KikaRz your graphics card was that?
21:23 jordan4ibanez Yes, i had agp 1x
21:24 KikaRz minetest_game-master needs to be compiled?
21:24 KikaRz or just copy paste in the foldeR'
21:24 KikaRz ?
21:24 jordan4ibanez Pasted lol
21:24 jordan4ibanez rename it minetest
21:26 KikaRz hey
21:26 KikaRz i can use borland?
21:27 KikaRz i got borland
21:28 KikaRz VanessaE
21:28 KikaRz got a problem
21:29 VanessaE kika stop pasting!
21:30 KikaRz im not pasting
21:30 KikaRz your net is lagged
21:30 KikaRz i just pasted a debug
21:30 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jachoo/minetest-jachoo/commit/e982d5938570602f1959275c867cd894b2744fb8
21:30 KikaRz 23 lines
21:30 KikaRz who's jachoo?
21:45 KikaRz Nobody cant make me a windows version with direct3d support?
21:47 jordan4ibanez Is this new version 0.4.4?
21:47 KikaRz Maybe.
21:47 KikaRz or 0.4.3.1
21:47 KikaRz xd
21:48 KikaRz that was a stupid version... 0.4.3.1
21:48 KikaRz xd
21:48 KikaRz or 0.4.3.2
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21:51 khonkhortisan warning: do not use "setxkbmap -option shift:both_capslock". It will cause the shift key release signal to be lost.
21:52 KikaRz lol
21:52 KikaRz im very sad
21:52 KikaRz :(
21:52 khonkhortisan make your own game and you won't be.
21:53 KikaRz shut up.
21:53 khonkhortisan I have some 3d cubes and a moving camera and it responds to keyboard, in 366 lines of code, using opengl and glut. The camera doesn't move the right way, though.
21:53 marktraceur HOLY CRAP
21:53 marktraceur C++ mapper is SO FAST.
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21:54 marktraceur Oh, well it cut off big parts of the map, no wonder
21:54 khonkhortisan cheater!
22:00 jordan4ibanez VanessaE what version of minecarts were you using?
22:01 jordan4ibanez The one I'm using still has a very glitchy movement
22:01 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: pulled from pilzadam's upstream a few hours ago, "attachment" branch.
22:01 jordan4ibanez Can you link me to it please?
22:01 VanessaE this one, I believe:  https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts
22:01 VanessaE https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/attachment
22:01 VanessaE specifically, that one.
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22:02 Muadtralk i already gave that link!
22:02 marktraceur I'm confused as to how this happened.
22:02 marktraceur http://games.libreplanet.org/minetest/maps/current.png
22:02 OldCoder VanessaE, can you PM?
22:03 Uberi did someone say attachment branch? :P
22:03 VanessaE brb
22:06 KikaRz VanessaE
22:06 KikaRz give me the server
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22:07 Dpc22 whoops
22:07 Doc22 lol
22:07 KikaRz fail ;P
22:07 Doc22 XD
22:07 Doc22 stupid typos...
22:09 KikaRz VanessaE, will that version work tomorrow?
22:10 VanessaE back.
22:10 VanessaE what version?
22:11 KikaRz that one with 3d players
22:11 KikaRz and carts
22:11 KikaRz going to enter with opengl (itll lag my pc a LOT)
22:11 Doc22 that way minecarts will have use lol
22:11 VanessaE 24.181.193.82 port 30001
22:11 Doc22 minetracks*
22:11 Uberi hey VanessaE, that new apple image looks great
22:11 VanessaE remember this is not permanent.  I do not know how long I will keep that server running.
22:11 VanessaE Uberi: thanks :-)
22:12 KikaRz VanessaE
22:12 KikaRz by this way... my game is not going to join server too faster.
22:13 babyface1031 hi Doc22
22:13 KikaRz Media downloading too slowly because im downloading a torrent
22:13 Doc22 hey babyface
22:13 KikaRz Vanessa, can you send me screenshots?
22:13 Doc22 im on a different pc and i cant play now
22:14 VanessaE sure I'll make a screenshot in a sec.
22:16 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_967028062.png
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22:18 jordan4ibanez What was that new function that taoki added in?
22:18 KikaRz carts?
22:18 Taoki jordan4ibanez: which one?
22:18 jordan4ibanez it should be added into this page ^^ http://api.minetest.net/method/index.html
22:18 jordan4ibanez The mounting players to entities
22:19 VanessaE attachments.
22:19 KikaRz lol
22:19 jordan4ibanez Or all of them actually
22:19 KikaRz Vanessa
22:19 KikaRz and RealBadAngel
22:19 KikaRz can you 2 take a screenshot into the cart?
22:19 VanessaE I think he's AFK
22:20 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wta7K7hG__I&amp;feature=plcp
22:20 VanessaE shutting the server down for some updates.
22:20 KikaRz or someone on it?
22:21 KikaRz joaoadriano3 subscribed to channel 313hummer
22:21 jordan4ibanez How does 3dplayer actually work?
22:22 NakedFury whats new in minetest?
22:22 jordan4ibanez A lot
22:22 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wta7K7hG__I&amp;feature=plcp
22:22 Uberi oh neat I need to watch that
22:23 VanessaE and the server's back, now featureing A Shitload Of Mods â„¢
22:23 VanessaE oops, wait.
22:23 VanessaE forgot to update carts.
22:23 NakedFury maybe try /time 6000 before making a video?
22:24 Uberi 3D models landed in MT! https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/compare/e02b95741b...3d1c481f0b
22:24 jordan4ibanez I did that on vanessa's server
22:24 Uberi also rba's patch thing
22:24 KikaRz guys
22:24 KikaRz going out
22:24 Uberi this is going to be huge
22:25 KikaRz bye
22:25 VanessaE there.  server's up, carts *just* fetched from git (attachment branch).
22:25 KikaRz going out
22:25 KikaRz kisses
22:25 KikaRz <3
22:25 * KikaRz KikaRz-sleeping
22:25 KikaRz ups
22:26 KikaRz-sleeping if want something, leave a message in PM
22:29 jordan4ibanez WE GET IT
22:34 KikaRz-sleeping Muadtralk, 81.5 %
22:34 KikaRz-sleeping now, going out. tomorrow ill install it and compile it.
22:34 KikaRz-sleeping kisses everyone!
22:34 KikaRz-sleeping continuing away...
22:36 VanessaE jin_xi: are you experiencing high amounts of lag right now
22:36 VanessaE ?
22:36 sokomine taoki: that minecraft-like dropping of digged stuff to the ground is rather annoying i think. maybe it's diffrent for people who played mc in the non-classic mode before mt...
22:37 VanessaE sokomine: that's a mod.
22:37 VanessaE I'll remove it.
22:37 sokomine vanessa: i wasn't able to connect to your server right now. timed out while trying to get the media data
22:37 VanessaE I shut it off while I sort out a problrem.
22:37 sokomine taoki wrote like it ought to be part of the main game?
22:38 VanessaE guys, I need to reset the world.
22:38 khonkhortisan It's one solution to the loss of materials when digging with a full inventory
22:38 jin_xi lolwut, just joined, then shutdown
22:38 Uberi hey, which server is that? does it have Mesecons?
22:38 Doc22 its a test server for the new stuff
22:38 VanessaE jin_xi: sorry, I'm working on it.
22:38 Uberi ah
22:38 Doc22 24.181.193.82 port 30001
22:39 jin_xi lol no prob im off to bed anyway.
22:39 Uberi needs latest git, I assume?
22:39 Doc22 VanessaE?
22:39 Doc22 uberi needs to know
22:39 Doc22 i wouldnt know that lol
22:39 Doc22 if it is just lua or what
22:39 Uberi it does from what I can tell
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22:39 Uberi they bumped up the protocol version today
22:40 VanessaE it does need latest git yes.
22:41 Doc22 VanessaE maybe you can answer this
22:41 VanessaE server is back up btw.
22:41 Uberi hmm, can't boot into Ubuntu right now, so I'll pass :)
22:42 Doc22 what does the engine do if a lua function calls node change in an unloaded/ungenerated area
22:42 Uberi it's a no-op
22:42 VanessaE it throws a "content ignore" error
22:42 Uberi well it shows an error
22:42 VanessaE but it doesn't crash or anything
22:42 Uberi but otherwise a no-op
22:42 Doc22 then how does it change it when the chunk is loaded
22:43 Uberi it doesn't
22:43 Uberi you need to change it when it's loaded
22:43 Doc22 what if there is an ore and it needs to generate into the next chunk as a vein
22:43 Doc22 so it just slices it
22:43 Doc22 and doesnt change the next chunk
22:43 Doc22 ?
22:43 Uberi well, yeah
22:44 Uberi but you can use perlin noise here
22:44 Doc22 maybe there could be a queue for blocks that need to be added
22:44 VanessaE server restart again, resetting the spawn point to somewhere more reasonable.
22:44 Doc22 so that whenever a chunk is generated
22:44 Doc22 it checks if any of the blocks in the queue are inside itself
22:44 Uberi I had a feature request open for manual chunk loading, but that sounds good too
22:44 Doc22 ok
22:44 Uberi though not very efficient
22:44 Doc22 yeah
22:45 Doc22 manual chunk loading would be good for a server where the world needed to be regenerated with a different seed
22:45 Doc22 without stopping it
22:45 Doc22 for instance, my hunger game mod
22:45 Doc22 it would be useful
22:45 Doc22 if not a neccesity
22:46 Doc22 the reason it would be a queue
22:46 Doc22 is that if iron generated into the next chunk
22:46 Doc22 then that chunk might have coal
22:46 Doc22 so it loads more chunks
22:46 Doc22 that have more minerals
22:47 Doc22 and it goes on until you hit a chunk without any minerals
22:47 Doc22 so that is my reason for a queue
22:48 Doc22 it would possibly generate the whole map at once if you did it the other way
22:48 VanessaE ok guys, server's back up and stablized.  world reset.  spawn point moved.  Enjoy.
22:48 Doc22 there is still one problem
22:48 Doc22 if you generate chunk a before chunk be
22:48 Doc22 b*
22:48 VanessaE stupid 3dforniture and vines mods just absolutely KILL my performance.
22:48 Doc22 lo
22:48 Doc22 lol
22:49 Doc22 then chunk b might have ore that generates into a
22:49 Doc22 so it changes it after it was generated
22:49 Doc22 that wouldnt be problematic if the queue
22:50 Doc22 had a variable for "where in"
22:50 Doc22 on each node
22:50 Doc22 so that iron doesnt generate into the middle of a cave
22:50 Doc22 how do trees generate into the next chunk if they are on an edge?
22:51 sokomine 3dforniture kills performance? how so?
22:51 VanessaE the round trees.
22:51 Doc22 ahhhh
22:51 VanessaE why oh why didn't he put those in a separate mod?
22:51 Doc22 what about vines mod
22:51 Doc22 and yeah i agree
22:51 Doc22 why does vines mod kill performance
22:51 VanessaE vines spawns the damn things on EVERY tree, and lots of them at that, and makes them rot.
22:51 Doc22 lol
22:51 VanessaE so its ABMs are really heavy apparently.
22:52 VanessaE yet, conifers is tolerable.
22:52 VanessaE hell even bas080's jungle trees mod is better than this.
22:52 Doc22 vines mod needs to take out the rotten vines
22:52 Doc22 that would make it have less abms
22:52 jordan4ibanez Now i can make the shit mod
22:52 jordan4ibanez mount the player to the toilet :3
22:52 Doc22 lol
22:53 Uberi :O
22:53 Doc22 how you get porcelein?
22:53 Uberi genious
22:53 Doc22 lo
22:53 Doc22 lol
22:53 Doc22 ARRGH
22:53 Doc22 trigger happy pinky
22:53 jordan4ibanez from the toilet
22:53 jordan4ibanez duh
22:53 Doc22 lol
22:54 Doc22 wood toilet
22:54 Doc22 stone toilet
22:54 Doc22 porcelein toilet
22:54 Doc22 steel toilet
22:54 sokomine well...isn't that algorithm you're asking for exactly that what minetest already has for hills and stuff like that?
22:54 Doc22 GOLD TOILET
22:54 Doc22 ahhhhhh
22:54 Doc22 me?
22:55 sokomine hm, yes, i usually have vines running as well. they spread a lot...
22:56 sokomine hm :-) the toilets in 3dforniture are perfectly fine :-) no need for further ones
22:56 VanessaE Server: A mismatched client tried to connect from xx.xx.xx.xx
22:56 VanessaE who is this?
22:57 Doc22 not me
22:57 Doc22 im on crappy pc
22:57 Doc22 runs 3fps on this one
22:57 Doc22 :/
22:57 Doc22 if im lucky
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23:14 VanessaE anyone else want to try logging into the test server?  I'm checking for lag.
23:15 VanessaE needs git from late today of course.
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23:16 Octupus Hi
23:16 Uberi hi
23:16 VanessaE oh I just noticed:  all creative stacks are 99 now instead of 49
23:16 VanessaE hey Octupus
23:17 Octupus Hi VanessaE
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23:25 VanessaE Ah I like the new trash feature with the 99's creative inventory
23:25 VanessaE that's much better.
23:28 sokomine yes. practical. especially for creative
23:28 sokomine media's coming in slowly
23:29 NakedFury 99 is ok for now
23:29 NakedFury later on it should be infinite and not show any number
23:29 VanessaE yep I know.  It now has A Shitload Of Mods â„¢
23:29 sokomine :-)
23:29 VanessaE sokomine: world had to be reset (same seed) in the process.  Suggest you suicide and let it respawn you at the new spawnpoint.
23:29 sokomine ambience_sound or how it's called as well? that seems the worst, transmission-time wise...
23:30 VanessaE oh hell no
23:30 * sokomine doesn't want to suicide! :-)
23:30 VanessaE ambiance mod is nice but WAY to big :-)
23:30 sokomine ah
23:30 * sokomine looks relieved
23:30 Uberi it's huge
23:30 sokomine 30% media
23:30 Muadtralk possibly a scaled down version of it
23:30 OldCoder It is only once
23:30 Muadtralk with lower quality sound?
23:30 Uberi it's already scaled down
23:30 OldCoder Won't help much
23:30 VanessaE I wish someone would rewrite confiers and jungletrees to not need to G*Daweful much CPU
23:30 OldCoder Network must be fixed
23:30 Uberi the quality is at a minimum
23:31 VanessaE they're beautiful mods.
23:31 VanessaE s/need to/need so/
23:31 Muadtralk obviously the ambiance mod has a different definition of minimum
23:31 VanessaE too bad, too.  ambiance is a nice mod.
23:31 Uberi they did it as far as possible without discernible quality loss IIRC
23:31 sokomine why do they need so much cpu?
23:32 VanessaE sokomine: because they (conifers and jungletrees) grow very large trees at mapgen time.
23:32 VanessaE and Lua is very slow for that.
23:32 sokomine ah. large. ok. saw that on your server
23:33 VanessaE the engine needs some way to spawn trees generically in C++.  Something those two can hook into
23:33 sokomine hmm. wouldn't help much i'm afraid. normal trees look diffrent from the conifers
23:33 VanessaE you know, "spawn tree X nodes wide, Y nodes tall, with Z tiers of leaves using textures A, B, C..."
23:33 VanessaE that sorta thing
23:34 Uberi nah, too specific
23:34 sokomine maybe rather a way of adding a couple of nodes at the same time...chunk-data in, new chunk data out....
23:34 Uberi maybe a general parametric shape generator
23:34 VanessaE Uberi: sounds okay
23:35 sokomine wow! finally the node data is arriving :-)
23:36 sokomine green...somethings...are jumping around. i take it they're slimes?
23:36 VanessaE slimes, yes.
23:36 Uberi :O
23:36 VanessaE Jeija's slimes mod.
23:37 VanessaE only unlike certain...notch-based games... these slimes are harmless and they won't zerg-rush you :-)
23:37 NakedFury need to see what mod changes where done in OCs servers
23:37 sokomine thanks for the explanation :-)
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23:37 VanessaE whoa, server crash
23:38 sokomine aah. and i was wondering why nothing happened
23:38 VanessaE and bye bye goes the timber mod.
23:40 sokomine why? what did that poor mod do to get discarded?
23:40 VanessaE it crashed the server :-)
23:40 VanessaE 18:37:48: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...anessa/minetest/bin/../mods/minetest/timber/init.lua:12: attempt to index local 'timber_item' (a nil value)
23:40 sokomine maybe the trees where too high for it
23:40 VanessaE heh
23:41 VanessaE anyway it's already back.
23:42 Uberi that was fast
23:43 sokomine hm. but changing several nodes in one go and setting them to unproblematic nodes (no face_dir or anything) ought to be more easy. importing minetest worlds is slow as well...and breaks when the area isn't loaded or generated
23:43 sokomine what does add_node do internally?
23:44 VanessaE dunno
23:44 VanessaE it..um...adds a node? :-)
23:44 Uberi it goes down to CPP and modifies some structs
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23:47 Dogzilla131 Is there mirror mod?
23:48 Uberi not possible at the moment in any reasonable way
23:49 Muadtralk and what about nonreasonable ways :D
23:49 Muadtralk ?
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23:51 Uberi well, I suppose it would be possible
23:51 Uberi you could build an exact mirrored replica of the world on the other side of the wall
23:51 Uberi and then put a glass node there
23:52 VanessaE that's...a little complicated.
23:52 VanessaE but doable in lua, in theory anyway
23:52 Muadtralk and put a little nodebox npc on the other side :P
23:53 OldCoder Dogzilla131, Uberi Hi
23:54 VanessaE yay!
23:54 VanessaE 0.4.4 is out!
23:55 Muadtralk hmmm
23:55 Muadtralk official release by c55?
23:55 Muadtralk with blog post and everything?
23:55 VanessaE Bump version to 0.4.4 as this isn't compatible with 0.4.3
23:55 VanessaE d67004a3be Browse code
23:55 VanessaE celeron55 authored an hour ago
23:55 VanessaE I'd say that's official enough ;)
23:56 Uberi hey OldCoder
23:56 Uberi what
23:56 Uberi oh man
23:56 OldCoder ?
23:56 Uberi this is the best
23:57 Uberi 0.4.4
23:57 OldCoder Yes I see
23:57 OldCoder But no LevelDB
23:57 Muadtralk and no official 0.4.4 win32 release
23:57 Muadtralk which means it doesnt exist yet to many players
23:57 VanessaE oh sfan5.........
23:57 VanessaE ;)
23:58 Muadtralk players that dont visit the forums
23:58 Uberi I bet we get a new win32 build tomorrow
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