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03:25 LazyJ VanessaE, kaeza: Unified Inventory suggestion - placing nodes in a special formspec to set auto-trash function.     https://github.com/minetest-tech​nic/unified_inventory/issues/100
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07:09 nerzhul nice, in git 2.13 log now shows direct the remote and local positions :D
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07:37 tenplus1 hi folks
07:39 nerzhul h ite
07:39 nerzhul hi tenplus1
07:39 tenplus1 hi nrz, how's thigns ;)
07:43 CWz Spy around here!
07:43 tenplus1 hi CWz
07:44 CWz That tenplus1 is a spy!
07:44 tenplus1 I spy with my little eye, something beginning with D
07:44 CWz Dumbeldor?
07:44 tenplus1 nope
07:45 CWz Monkey D luffy?
07:45 tenplus1 lolol
07:59 benrob0329 tenplus1: ok now I know ive been awake for way too long
07:59 tenplus1 hi benrob
08:00 tenplus1 you been up all night ?
08:00 benrob0329 uhhh...umm...
08:00 benrob0329 Its not light out yet
08:00 benrob0329 So no :P
08:00 benrob0329 Still got an hour or 2 before then
08:01 tenplus1 ehehe
08:01 benrob0329 But i should probably go to bed..
08:01 benrob0329 But hey, I think Gentoo is here to stay
08:01 tenplus1 just reading today's news...   nsa exploit code stolen and used to bring the NHS (british hospital services) in London to it's knees in a malware attack
08:02 benrob0329 Screw the NSA
08:02 tenplus1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article​-4501220/Cyber-hackers-cripple-NHS.html
08:02 benrob0329 Amyways, gnight
08:02 tenplus1 na nite
08:02 benrob0329 Or good morning, I suppose :P
08:02 tenplus1 lol
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08:17 Krock hello tenplus1
08:17 Krock YES
08:17 tenplus1 hi Krock :) how's you ?
08:17 Krock happy again. internet connection problems seem to be gone
08:18 tenplus1 sweet, what was the issue ?
08:19 Krock no clue but it works for now. I kept losing the connection a few minutes after connecting any WiFi receiver
08:19 tenplus1 strange indeed
08:26 tenplus1 https://github.com/Uberi/M​inetest-WorldEdit/pull/131 Worldedit GUI privs fix
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08:30 tenplus1 hi cx384
08:30 cx384 hi tenplus1
08:31 rdococ hi rdococ
08:32 tenplus1 hi rdococ
08:32 rdococ hi tenplus1
08:32 * rdococ walks through a mirror, only to hit his head on an invisible wall 1 meter through
08:33 tenplus1 damn collisionbox issue :P
08:33 rdococ :P
08:34 * rdococ transforms into a vampire, and walks through the mirror.
08:34 tenplus1 lol
08:35 rdococ Hm.
08:35 rdococ I'm still thinking about the mirror desyncing thing.
08:35 tenplus1 :P
08:39 rdococ yay
08:40 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1732
08:44 tenplus1 http://memes2.fjcdn.com/pictures/Inte​resting+stuff+here_d41810_6264775.jpg
08:49 rdococ lol
08:52 tenplus1 rdococ: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/m​aking-sense-chaos/201408/monsters-in-t​he-mirror-no-really-literal-monsters
08:54 rdococ the brain is a weird thing, scaring itself
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08:56 tenplus1 wb davisonio
08:56 davisonio thanks :)
08:57 davisonio for some reason I can't send messages to #minetest-dev
08:57 davisonio they were mentioning some exploit in world edit_gui
08:57 davisonio wondering if that's still a problem anyone's experiencing?
08:59 rdococ I'm watching someone play Sonic 06, and I'm thinking "I could create a better playing game on a 4-bit console"
09:00 tenplus1 davisonio: https://github.com/Uberi/M​inetest-WorldEdit/pull/131
09:04 davisonio tenplus1: thanks so much, I'm patching my server with that right now
09:05 tenplus1 :)
09:06 VanessaE davisonio: you need to use a real IRC client, not webchat, to talk in #-dev
09:07 rdococ what was the exploit?
09:07 rdococ ah
09:07 tenplus1 forgot to add the priv check, so anyone could use worldedit to run lua code and do all sorts
09:07 VanessaE rdococ: the one that you saw in my servers.
09:10 rdococ I wasn't there
09:10 * rdococ is sad, he always misses the fun stuff
09:11 VanessaE rdococ: see /msg
09:13 davisonio Hmm that's annoying I'm using an online irc client app
09:13 VanessaE use a real client.
09:13 VanessaE hexchat, andchat, whatever works, as long as it's not a webchat
09:13 * tenplus1 uses Pidgin
09:13 davisonio Reminds me of the circular saw bug where you could duplicate blocks. Think that one is fixed now
09:13 VanessaE that works too.
09:14 VanessaE not sure if that's fixed, but this was far worse.
09:14 VanessaE about as bad as it gets, in fact.
09:14 tenplus1 thankfully things tend to get patched quick, it's just waiting for the pull to go in that's the issue :P
09:14 rdococ o-o
09:15 rdococ hm
09:15 tenplus1 this goes for mt-game as well
09:15 VanessaE the problem is the mod in question is not well-maintained
09:16 tenplus1 sfan5 maintains it now
09:16 davisonio Yeah this looks really bad, don't even know why this feature in necessary in the mod
09:16 tenplus1 agreed, should be removed
09:16 VanessaE from _gui yes
09:17 VanessaE from the main worldedit mod, it's fine.  priv checks there.
09:21 sfan5 VanessaE: if by not well-maintained you mean no frequent changes: yes, if you mean bugs not being fixed: rather not
09:22 VanessaE sfan5: there are 5 outstanding PRs, 15 outstanding issues, and the last commits were back in march.
09:22 VanessaE (though I see tenplus1's fix was just merged)
09:22 tenplus1 w00t!
09:22 VanessaE so 4 and 15.
09:24 VanessaE two of those issues are from me, now a year and a half old, for which patches supposedly exist (ask HybridDog)...so you'll forgive me if it looks somewhat dead.
09:24 sfan5 most of those issues are either 1) nontrivial 2) strange bugs
09:24 sfan5 about prs: yes i haven't had time to look at them
09:24 VanessaE I understand.
09:29 sfan5 does it sound correct that someone with "server" priv is able to use //lua
09:29 tenplus1 yes, since only those the server owner trusts with that priv could do anything
09:30 VanessaE yes.
09:44 Shara Hello
09:44 tenplus1 hi Shara
09:46 cx384 hi
09:47 Shara How's it going?
09:47 tenplus1 good thx, you ?
09:48 Shara Ask me when I wake up a bit :P
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10:48 tenplus1 hi fixer
10:49 Fixer hi
10:50 shivajiva Hi folks o/
10:50 tenplus1 hi shiva
10:50 Calinou hi
10:51 shivajiva interesting reading here today :)
10:51 tenplus1 o.O
10:52 shivajiva better pull n restart my server
10:53 rdococ https://www.theguardian.com/science/b​rain-flapping/2013/sep/20/video-games​-cause-violence-claims-cause-violence
10:54 tenplus1 ?!?!?!
10:54 rdococ lol
10:55 shivajiva I had a hell of a job getting a player out of a server recently, had to use WE lua to find the accounts on the fly they were granting server priv to, until I had a list of the accounts and managed to eject them
10:56 tenplus1 ouch...
10:57 red-002 I suppose talking about the exploit is ok but it would be best to give server owners ~1 week or so to update the server before going into too much detail about how it worked
10:57 Hijiri could override the set privilege functions to just ban anyone who is granted server
10:57 tenplus1 hi red, hi Hijiri
10:57 Hijiri hi 11
11:02 shivajiva heh my server is compromised, when a player joins they get banned
11:02 tenplus1 am adding feature to ip_per_names on Xanadu just now that kicks anyone with server priv apart from myself and shinji
11:02 shivajiva [11:57:08] <Serpe> 2017-05-13 12:54:34: ERROR[Main]: Access denied. Reason: Your ip is banned. Banned name was Serpe
11:02 shivajiva [11:59:55] <Serpe> Seems there is no player on the server ATM. I guess some hack code is running.
11:02 shivajiva [12:01:11] <Serpe> Each time someone tries to connect, there is an immediate disconnection probably coupled with some encoded permanent ban.
11:03 shivajiva nice!
11:04 red-002 I hope you have mod security enabled and backups
11:05 shivajiva backups yes, mod security no
11:05 red-002 I would suggest turning your server off then
11:06 red-002 unless you like being part of someones botnet
11:06 Shara need some kind of whitelist, so only people who are on it can have certain privs... otherwise ban :)
11:13 Hijiri yes, like allowed_to_have_fly_priv_priv
11:14 red-002 lets just add another priv system just more secure
11:14 red-002 and then wait half a year till an api for it is added
11:14 tenplus1 Xanadu now has a priv check on login, if you have any server style privs and arent myself or shinji you get booted
11:15 Shara probem is if they can escalate after join
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11:18 tenplus1 hi Jordach
11:29 tenplus1 I'd recommend a protection_bypass priv check as well... can give players access to many things/mods
11:30 Shara can get to the point of too many checks at this rate
11:31 tenplus1 I'm only checking those two privs 'server' and 'protection_bypass' as those give players too much access to commands and builds
11:31 red-002 I mean you are adding a system to check if a player should be able to have a privledge that another system gives out
11:31 red-002 I say you reached that point long ago
11:32 * rdococ hugs red
11:32 tenplus1 too many hacked clients around that give out privs like candy... this way it saves the server hassle
11:32 red-002 ...
11:33 red-002 or you know just fix exploits in your server
11:33 red-002 if you can run any lua code you don't care about privs
11:33 tenplus1 we shouldnt have any... this is a cehck for hacked clients giving out privs to normal players
11:34 rdococ how do hacked clients give privs to normal players without the privs priv in the first place?
11:34 tenplus1 no idea...
11:34 red-002 thats impossbile unless these clients include a "exploit server" feature
11:34 rdococ sounds like these servers are made of glass
11:34 red-002 in which case thats more likely then not pretty illegal
11:36 red-002 the client doesn't even know if the player has 'server'/'protection_bypass'
11:36 Shara when a client grants an ability it usually doesn't show as a priv
11:36 tenplus1 on xanadu mk2 we had an issue where a player managed to use a custom client to sign on with "delprotect" priv... from there he could open any protected door, chest, place blocks and remove from ppl's protected builds...
11:37 red-002 are you sure you don't an exploit in your server?
11:37 tenplus1 positive...
11:37 red-002 cause it sounds like you do
11:38 tenplus1 no-one can run lua code, no-one has privs to do anything apart from play and even admin have a custom 'limit' priv to allow them to boot players from server
11:38 red-002 do you have any custom mods for granting privs?
11:38 tenplus1 nope
11:39 red-002 did the user have the "delprotect'/'protection_bypass' privilege and did you see this first hand or is this a second hand report?
11:40 tenplus1 they had the ability to break all protected blocks... I knew protection worked fine (this was tested)... and a /priv check showed they did indeed have 'delprotect' priv... so they were limited and banned
11:41 red-002 we should really log priv granting
11:41 tenplus1 +100
11:41 red-002 and you searched the logs and no-one granted the user that priv?
11:41 tenplus1 nothing
11:41 red-002 maybe they got access to an old account?
11:41 red-002 how far back do your logs go?
11:41 tenplus1 nope, only myself and "titaniumanglesmithe" (shinji) has access
11:45 red-002 thats really werid
11:46 red-002 but thats not the work of some random hacked client
11:47 red-002 either this player found an exploit or they accidently got the privilege granted
11:59 tenplus1 I have a new found respect for the Amiga computer... was amazing that a system with 8-bit sound could be tweaked using software alone to enable 14-bit audio
12:01 shivajiva how was it implemented?
12:01 VanessaE gang two voices of the Paula chip together.
12:01 tenplus1 the trick was to put PAL screen mode into 31khz so they could free up the frequency so that audio can be played up to 44khz (14-bit)
12:02 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_GSzuxGUvQ
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12:02 VanessaE the same trick works on any system that has two or more DAC channels with volume controls feeding into a common wire
12:02 tenplus1 wn Jordach
12:02 tenplus1 *wb
12:02 Jordach there, installed latest windows 10 crap
12:02 Jordach not a single bug
12:02 tenplus1 I remember using OctaMod and gaining 8-channels from a 4-channel setup :) was kewl
12:02 rdococ ...
12:02 VanessaE I used that trick to get full 8-bit audio from the C64 SID chip, in a very primitive method (others have since done it better)
12:03 tenplus1 the demos on the older audio chips are amazing :) commodore were ahead of them all at the tiem :D
12:03 VanessaE yup
12:05 tenplus1 I have a huge respect for Amiga audio and the mods I grew up with...  I still think we need .mod/.xm support for minetest to help with server audio :)))
12:09 Fixer Krock: btw, are you using Posready hack on your XP?
12:11 Krock Fixer, according to my regedit, no.
12:12 Fixer Krock: ms issued a patch for XP to fix that smbv1 critical vulner
12:12 Krock Fixer, what are you doing with my name? I don't see a red highlight bullet
12:12 Fixer Krock: no idea
12:13 Krock !ping
12:13 red-002 Krock: ?
12:13 ShadowBot pong
12:13 Krock hmm... weird
12:13 red-002 Krock: huh?
12:13 Fixer there are claims that vulnerability goes back up to win 3.11
12:13 Krock nvm, it's my fault - freenode was apparently marked as "Inactive"
12:13 Krock thus, no highlights.
12:14 rdococ meow.
12:14 Krock Thanks Fixer for pointing this out, however I'm not sure if I'll actually get the updates before Minetest goes C++11
12:14 Krock which is my milestone to burry Win XP
12:14 tenplus1 will moving to C++11 speed things up ?
12:15 Krock the only thing that speeds up is the coding job itself
12:15 rdococ yay, faster updates?!
12:15 Fixer Krock: btw, if you enable posready hack, you will keep receiving win xp updates to 2019, for different edition of XP (embedded)
12:15 Krock auto i = m_list.begin();  instead of    std::vector<what::ever_stuff>::iterator t = m_list.begin();
12:16 red-002 yeah if you are still using xp it's a good idea to enable that
12:16 Krock Fixer, I'm aware of that hack but it's nearly impossible to get modern software to run on it
12:17 nerzhul tenplus1, it will permit to have some faciltiies and high level API
12:17 Fixer Krock: what modern software?
12:17 tenplus1 ooh, like what nrz ?
12:17 nerzhul for example, removing an element in a list according to a condition in C++11: std::remove_if(c.begin(), c.end(), [] (a) { a < 3; });
12:17 nerzhul return a < 3;
12:17 nerzhul sorry :)
12:18 nerzhul it's an schematic example but an example
12:18 Krock Fixer, Visual Studio 201?, M$ Word, Atom, OBS Project,
12:18 Krock and many other don't support Win 5.1 anymore
12:18 nerzhul we already start to use C++11 containers in a compatible way with unordered_map & unordered_set, which are selected when using a c++11 compiler
12:18 Fixer Krock: -> Win7
12:18 Krock even FF dropped the support
12:18 Fixer Krock: FF does support XP
12:19 tenplus1 latest FF only runs on newer processors p4 and above
12:19 Krock Fixer, yeah, until version 52
12:19 Fixer Krock: i've just upgraded one XP machine from SP1 to SP3 and installed newest firefox
12:19 nerzhul after release, i will wait for 1 week and propose multiple patchsets to remove old compat and use: std::mutex, std::thread, std::recursive_mutex, std::lock_guard, std::unordered_map & std::unordered_set directly
12:19 Krock https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/end-support-wi​ndows-xp-and-vista?as=u&amp;utm_source=inproduct
12:19 nerzhul i think my first work will be the engine conversion to C++11
12:19 nerzhul C++14 is used on 0ad if i remember
12:20 nerzhul but if MT uses C++11 it's sufficient atm, there is many things to refactor
12:20 tenplus1 anyone remember the game "Another World" ???
12:20 nerzhul also, use nullptr on pointers instead of NULL
12:20 rdococ C++17
12:20 nerzhul and last, for default values in constructor, remove them from constructor and assign them in header (<3)
12:20 rdococ soon, C++43 will add support for time machines
12:21 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nlmje-rUQs
12:21 Krock Fixer, just seen the /de/ part in that URL. I hope you manage it to see it in your language :/
12:21 nerzhul C++17 is interesting, but not supported official by compilers, i started to use it on a Mc -> MT map converter and the filesystem API is always in experimental
12:21 nerzhul (in stdlib)
12:21 nerzhul and some things are not finished
12:22 Fixer "Firefox version 52 will be the last complete update for Windows XP and Windows Vista. Security updates will be released, but no new features. "
12:22 Fixer " Firefox security updates until September 2017. "
12:23 Krock that's not long IMO
12:23 rdococ Windas.
12:23 rdococ Windas EKSPEE.
12:23 rdococ :P
12:24 tenplus1 WinXP SP3 Performance Edition was the last windows I ever ran on a Pc
12:24 Fixer Krock: http://www.catalog.update.microsof​t.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4012598%20XP (notice POSReady 2009 received very same patch two month earlier)
12:25 Krock ^ loads like forever
12:26 * rdococ hugs
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12:34 paramat tenplus1 "all we need now is the possibility to register a BASE biome which the other biomes can attach to at different levels in the map" can you explain? current Biome API can already create multiple stacked sets of biomes (if the basic stone terrain exists), what is needed is a core mapgen that creates multiple stacked basic terrains. mgv7 floatlands are only 1 level
12:34 Jordach uh
12:34 Jordach why not set ground level to -1
12:34 Jordach -30000
12:34 Jordach that way floatlands generate all the way up
12:34 tenplus1 that's the thing paramat, IF the original basic_stone terrain exists...  why cant we register new stone_terrain at say 5000 high and have biomes connect and build from it
12:35 tenplus1 floatlands has it semi right by allowing new biomes to form on floating stone that doesnt need to connect to the 0 level stone
12:36 tenplus1 having map layers (not just floatlands) will be an amazing step forward in creating dimensions 1000's of nodes apart and increase mod capabilities
12:36 tenplus1 and game features :P
12:41 tenplus1 plus we already have skyboxes ready for it all :D
12:42 Fixer minetest BIG height is huuge advantage
12:42 Fixer you can literally stuck 10 worlds on top of each other
12:42 tenplus1 +1000, we gotta do something with all that vertical space
12:43 Fixer with different biomes and such
12:43 tenplus1 we could literally register 30 different dimensions each with a +/- 1000 block area
12:44 Fixer only part that needs to be evaded is lua, to avoid OOMs
12:44 tenplus1 if the current mapgen could handle layers it would phase out voxelmanip mapgens and make thigns a lot faster, with less OOMs
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12:46 tenplus1 paramat: if we could only register the sone_base needed to build onto then biomes would take care of themselves at any height
12:46 tenplus1 hi rubenwardy
12:47 rubenwardy yo
12:51 paramat ok i see what you mean, and agree
12:51 tenplus1 yaaaay!
12:51 paramat not sure if mgv7 could do this, probably best a new mapgen
12:52 paramat i'll try to make it a feature in any new core mapgen
12:52 tenplus1 thankies...  this'll let us register a base layer (with biomes) anywhere between -30,000 and 30,000 :)) w00t
12:55 paramat and i do work on new core mapgens (have been for 2 years), i just don't talk about them much
12:58 tenplus1 new mapgens ? any testers ?
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13:02 Fixer ms catalog is horribly slow
13:02 Krock can confirm
13:03 Krock they must be using an M$ server software
13:04 tenplus1 lolol
13:06 tenplus1 current chest models are messing around too much with mods, any mt-game devs wanna look at https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1732 and add it already to fix this
13:16 paramat tenplus1 i have one experimental mapgen that is usable https://github.com/paramat/minetest/tree/rivergen
13:16 paramat plus another in development
13:17 tenplus1 I'd need to compile to run ?
13:17 paramat yeah
13:17 paramat sorry
13:17 tenplus1 any special features you can mention in here ?
13:19 paramat it's similar to my watershed mapgen mod, but much improved over that
13:19 paramat large scale with sloping rivers
13:19 tenplus1 ooh nice :D
13:20 tenplus1 and if ya can include layering then we got the ultimate :D ehehe
13:20 paramat it doesn't so that but is coded to make that possible
13:20 paramat *do
13:21 red-002 is a special mod needed to make it work?
13:21 red-002 or can I just build it and run it?
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13:32 paramat just compile and run it, MTG adds the default biomes
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13:49 red-002 May 01 00:18:10 <Redcrab>*** Iracheta102 left the game
13:49 red-002 May 01 00:18:11 <OldCoder>It is Minetest official
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13:59 rdococ I personally have a tab size of 5. what about everyone else?
14:00 Krock 4 here
14:00 red-002 not sure
14:00 rdococ I use 4 if 5 isn't available.
14:00 red-002 I just leave it at the default
14:00 red-002 unless the default is really bad
14:00 Shara 4 for me
14:00 rdococ if the only options are 2 or 8, I'd pick 8.
14:00 VanessaE real tabs, 4 spaces per stop.
14:01 rdococ I also prefer real tabs to manually inputting spaces.
14:01 Krock spaces in the beginning of lines are ugly anyways
14:01 Krock but after the first word they should be used to linue up correctly
14:01 Krock *line
14:02 celeron55 a 13-page email, that's insane
14:03 Krock celeron55, font size 72 or 14?
14:03 red-002 yeah he or someone that will tell him
14:03 celeron55 well someone write me a script that will add [off] to the beginning of every line
14:03 celeron55 for irssi
14:04 red-002 most minetest channels have a logger that ignores [off] running im them
14:04 red-002 in*
14:04 Krock that should be forbidden!
14:05 red-002 not this one through
14:05 red-002 or use a pastebin?
14:09 celeron55 i haven't gotten that email
14:09 rubenwardy celeron55: you're CC'd
14:09 rubenwardy but gmail tagged it as spam, so...
14:10 red-002 well it is spam
14:10 shivajiva lol
14:11 celeron55 ok, i'm considering gmail working correctly in that case
14:13 celeron55 anyway, i wouldn't (and personally won't) worry much about any of that
14:13 rubenwardy yeah, it's very unlikely to lead to anything
14:13 rubenwardy bark no bite
14:13 rubenwardy if a trademark claim is filed, that's when we start to take actions
14:15 celeron55 i hate him using my real name though
14:15 celeron55 i wish he quitted that
14:15 rubenwardy same
14:15 rubenwardy also, casual doxing
14:15 rubenwardy well, in effect
14:16 shivajiva yes it is
14:16 celeron55 there's literally no way he can achieve any of what he wants anymore, if anyone can even understand what he wants (i don't)
14:16 Shara surprised I  wasn't emailed, despite being mentioned so much
14:17 shivajiva I object to being called nomal btw :P
14:17 VanessaE nor was I.
14:17 rubenwardy also, he mentions a possible buyout by Microsoft :D
14:17 red-002 lol
14:17 VanessaE yeah.  wat? :P
14:17 celeron55 lol what
14:17 tenplus1 ?????????????
14:18 red-002 yeah thats more then likely
14:39 red-002 ^
14:45 red-002 US*
14:46 red-002 ^
14:48 red-002 domain name?
15:02 * tenplus1 has a desktop box... hah!
15:02 red-002 does at need [off]?
15:02 rubenwardy mine is $9/year including whois privacy
15:02 rubenwardy namecheap
15:02 red-002 thats pretty cheap
15:03 Shara I still use a free domain... and have done so for about 5 years now.
15:03 rubenwardy dotcom as well, rubenwardy.com
15:03 Shara But mostly because I could never settle on one I liked :)
15:03 red-002 I remeber one of these free domain providers had an option of a free domain for 12 months or a paid one for a year
15:04 davisonio Just read through that whole PDF...wow
15:04 red-002 well done
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15:05 davisonio Haven't been involved with minetest in the last few months...seems like I missed a lot
15:05 davisonio Oh I'm a domain hoarder ;) spend too much
15:05 red-002 I would describe it as the opposite of missing out
15:07 Shara red-002: the free one I use lets you register for 12 month/year/whatever, then you can renew... I think it's anytime within two weeks of expiry
15:07 Shara They do check the domain name is actually being used though, or at least they did once before
15:07 red-002 I was pointing out that they had a seperate cost for a year and 12 months
15:07 red-002 Shara, which provider?
15:07 Shara Yes, I know :)
15:08 Shara I use a .tk one
15:08 red-002 oh I setup minetest.tk to redirect to minetest.net
15:15 tenplus1 rubywarden sounds like something from Steven Universe
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15:25 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest
15:38 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/9LNm87g.png
15:39 Krock 271? that's already a bunch of them
15:39 tenplus1 271 ?
15:40 Krock but it seems that not all particles are removed
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15:40 tenplus1 hi lumidify
15:42 lumidify Hi tenplus1
15:42 Fixer Krock: got as much as 310 on Hometown server
15:43 Calinou https://github.com/ornicar/lila/commit/f​f7d5b496fe8811401f5e8aa67bd4cdffbbf3dad
15:43 Calinou Lichess just dropped Google Analytics :D
15:44 rubenwardy :D
15:44 Fixer https://github.com/ornicar/lila/labels/stallman
15:44 rubenwardy my website get's about 300 requests a day from sites using Lichess widgets
15:44 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.com/lichess_widgets
15:45 Calinou I think I might become a patron there
15:45 rubenwardy loooool
15:45 tenplus1 lol
15:45 Calinou why not
15:46 tenplus1 you cant visit a website these days without visiting another 100 ... they are all connected now
15:47 Fixer i'm using rss + filters instead
15:47 Calinou well, you could already block Google Analytics
15:47 Calinou but I think it's a good thing he dropped it
15:48 Fixer yes
15:48 Fixer drop the bass
15:49 Fixer it is over 200 particles right now, not sure wth they are doing
15:49 Fixer fighting with mobs or something
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15:49 tenplus1 wb ruben
15:49 rubywarden sounds good, calculon
15:49 rubywarden arg
15:50 rubywarden Calinou
15:50 rubywarden why doesn't hexchat list options anymore
15:50 Calinou rubywarden, what do you think about Python?
15:50 Calinou is it the new evil lang--
15:50 * Calinou runs
15:50 rubenwardy I don't mind it
15:50 rubenwardy there are some syntax things that annoy me
15:50 Calinou there was a time Rubyists hated on Python
15:50 Calinou :P
15:50 rubenwardy that aren't very pythonic
15:50 Calinou but now that Rubyists barely exist anymore… :D
15:51 rubenwardy it Python well typed?
15:51 Fixer i like python
15:51 Calinou it is strongly-typed, and has type hints now too
15:51 Fixer you can get into it easily
15:51 Calinou (optional)
15:51 Fixer program fast
15:51 Calinou yeah, Python is fine
15:51 Calinou but it's slow
15:51 Fixer this thing is excellent for teaching imho
15:51 tenplus1 python is like new age basic...  and I loved basic :D
15:52 Fixer i had basic on zx spectrum, but... i had no manual or english understanding
15:53 tenplus1 microsoft basic made an appearance on many systems in the 80's :) was a great tool to play with
15:54 Fixer Calinou: i remember ruby hype everywhere
15:59 Fixer O_O
15:59 Fixer 400 particles
15:59 tenplus1 what's going on with the particles fixer ?
15:59 Fixer tenplus1: particles are rendered for everyone on server, even if you are 1000 blocks away
16:00 Fixer tenplus1: if you blow up big TNT, other players will encounter lag/lowfps/freeze due to particle rendering
16:01 Fixer 450 O_O
16:01 tenplus1 so they dont just appear for those who can actually see them... ouch!!!!
16:04 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/NPcUleD.png
16:04 tenplus1 I know that irrlicht can handle hardware particles... always wondered when they came into play
16:08 tenplus1 does each particle act like a tiny entity ?
16:08 rubenwardy there's now an American section in my local store
16:08 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/xph8RIq.png TRIGGERED
16:09 rubenwardy *US
16:09 rubenwardy for those that are TRIGGERhappy
16:09 rubenwardy kidding :D
16:09 VanessaE man I wish that would just fucking DIE
16:10 rubenwardy I bought a tootsieroll. Mildly interesting, they had to add a sticker as the food laws are different: I bought a tootsieroll. They had to
16:10 Fixer i wonder if there is roleplay troll bots on 2b2t
16:10 VanessaE (triggers/"trigger warning")
16:10 rubenwardy https://i.imgur.com/xph8RIq.png
16:10 tenplus1 lol
16:10 Calinou have you played… Triggered Eclipse?
16:10 rubenwardy seriously brain farting today
16:11 rubenwardy I bought a tootsieroll. Mildly interesting, they had to add a sticker as the food laws are different: https://rubenwardy.com/p/4587_tootsieroll.jpg
16:11 rubenwardy there we are
16:12 tenplus1 we have them on everything here in UK...
16:12 tenplus1 even peanut butter has "may contain nuts"
16:12 Calinou that's a Minecraft splash btw
16:12 Fixer rubenwardy: don't get it
16:14 rubenwardy Fixer: UK/EU laws are stricter on how companies label food, ie: they need to provide a detailed ingredient break down
16:14 Fixer rubenwardy: same in Ukraine
16:14 rubenwardy therefore US imports need to have a new label on them
16:14 Fixer rubenwardy: ah, i see this labeling everywhere here too
16:14 Calinou we have mandatory ingredient list too
16:15 Calinou I think it makes ense
16:15 Calinou sense*
16:15 rubenwardy yeah, it must just be an EU thing then
16:15 Fixer rubenwardy: but customers do need to know what they it, it is not "communism", "socialism", just common sence
16:15 Fixer eat*
16:15 rubenwardy exactly, I agree. It's common sense
16:16 rubenwardy it's crazy that you don't know what's in your food in Murica
16:16 Fixer you can literally sell ShitRolls with shit in it and nobody will even find it out without ingredient info
16:16 red-002 but but freedom!!!!!
16:16 Fixer red-002: freedom to be scummed?
16:16 red-002 of course
16:16 tenplus1 I remember reading that out of 248 countries, america came 240th in a list of healthy foods
16:17 tenplus1 1-5 being the netherland coutnries
16:18 Fixer US definitely has problems with junk food, i've read somewhere average american wheight (fuck this word in particular) is like 10 kg more than european going into obesity territory
16:19 Fixer iirc portions/dishes in US are also larger than here, but that could be urban myth
16:19 Fixer also free refills
16:19 tenplus1 the food in general, most of fake... honey is typically corn syrup, coffee is mixed with soya beans etc etc...
16:19 Fixer i have not even heared that this exists...
16:21 Fixer food is only part of a life style, other parts also play a role
16:21 Fixer including healthcare
16:23 VanessaE Fixer:  typical large burger here might be 300g before cooking.
16:23 VanessaE a small burger might be more like 50g
16:24 rubenwardy http://mentalfloss.com/article/76144/wh​y-no-one-wanted-aws-third-pound-burger
16:24 tenplus1 66g is the normal burger size here
16:24 VanessaE it's not an urban legend - american food portion sizes are huge, but a lot of that can be blamed on cost - restaurants expect us to spend $15 to $20 on a meal (for 2 people), so americans tend to expect very large portions in return
16:25 Fixer VanessaE: never had burger in my life
16:25 VanessaE you'll enjoy a properly-cooked cheeseburger, really.
16:25 rubenwardy normal is quarter pounder here, I'd say
16:25 VanessaE there's just nothing like it, especially if it's smoke-grilled
16:25 Fixer we have different food, more natural, but not really that healthy, like POTATOES
16:26 rubenwardy is the 300g just meat?
16:26 VanessaE rubenwardy: normal would be 1/10 pound for a mcdonald's regular burger, 2/10 for their "double" sizes.
16:26 VanessaE yeah, that 300g is for example Hardees "Monster Thickburger", 2/3 pound.
16:26 tenplus1 eek!... so much food... I already have trouble with the portion sizes here
16:27 rubenwardy quarter pounder is 113g
16:28 Wayward_One hi all :)
16:28 tenplus1 hi wayward
16:28 VanessaE morning Wayward
16:30 Fixer rubenwardy: awesome education /s
16:31 rubenwardy I hate imperial units
16:31 Fixer and you wonder why politicians treet people like cattle
16:31 Fixer treat*
16:31 Fixer yes, fuck imperial
16:31 tenplus1 lol
16:31 Fixer metric all the way
16:32 tenplus1 1 10 100 1000 is a lot easier
16:33 VanessaE agreed, fuck imperial
16:34 benrob0329 Hello
16:34 tenplus1 hi ben
16:34 benrob0329 VanessaE: indeed
16:35 benrob0329 tenplus1: so what'd I miss?
16:35 tenplus1 bedlum
16:35 tenplus1 and particles
16:36 benrob0329 Seems normal
16:36 tenplus1 :P
16:36 Calinou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eu​rovision_Song_Contest_2017#Final
16:36 Calinou Eurovision is today btw
16:36 Calinou France is the last country to perform, and possibly the last one in the ranking I guess
16:36 tenplus1 ooh... cant wait to youtube that one :D
16:36 Calinou who do you think will win?
16:36 Calinou I bet on Sweden as usual
16:36 tenplus1 is uk still in it ????
16:36 Calinou (always bet on Sweden)
16:37 Calinou I linked to the list of participating countries
16:37 tenplus1 ah, we're still on there
16:37 Fixer will see
16:38 davisonio Looking forward to Moldovas entry
16:38 Fixer still over 200 particles
16:40 Fixer mortal kombat times on a keyboard
16:40 Fixer there were real keyboards back then
16:40 Fixer not this weak cheap shit
16:40 red-002 lol
16:42 red-002 oh I got a section
16:42 red-002 lol
16:43 red-002 lol apprently I didn't try to discuss my concerns with him
16:43 red-002 maybe I should post the logs of what happens when you try that
17:02 Fixer never was on 4chan, lately i decided to read some of it on reddit, have more insight into memes
17:04 red-002 4chan is an insite into the depths of the human mind
17:04 red-002 benrob0329, he has been for like a month now
17:05 red-002 huh the site doesn't match the email
17:05 red-002 I guess it should be expected
17:06 Fixer Inflation... https://i.redd.it/mn30oomaf5xy.jpg
17:07 Fixer Venezuela R.I.P.
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17:11 tenplus1 hi CWz
17:12 red-002 xfiles intro
17:12 red-002 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbBX6aEzEz8
17:13 red-002 oh btw archive.is includes a tracker so you might want to block that
17:14 red-002 !seen nore
17:14 ShadowBot red-002: I saw nore in #minetest-hub 16 seconds ago saying "[off] Shara: oh, ok good then :)"
17:14 red-002 oh...
17:14 Shara Hah
17:14 red-002 that's a bit of an exploit
17:14 Shara Only if you do that :P
17:14 red-002 just make a bot that runs that
17:14 red-002 nore, don't bother
17:15 red-002 ^
17:18 red-002 can we please ban this subject
17:20 red-002 ^
17:20 red-002 thats what other channels did so I don't see why it's a bad idea
17:24 Krock red-002, access violation. the thread has been deleted :P
17:25 Fixer Krock: 0x00000005
17:25 Fixer 500 particles
17:25 Krock huh? 0x00000005 = 5
17:26 Krock apparently number0 was right with this assumption
17:36 red-002 oh I just don't bother
17:36 Fixer holy shit https://i.imgur.com/WLqnauQ.png
17:37 red-002 might as well be reading this http://www.lipsum.com/feed/html
17:37 tenplus1 lol
17:38 benrob0329 Fixer: shit is holy?
17:38 VanessaE well that's what you'd call it when a clergyman takes a bathroom break, right? :P
17:39 benrob0329 Lol
17:44 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/funny/190319/i-don-t-know​-what-i-was-expecting-but-it-sure-wasn-t-this
17:45 Krock ok, that's worth a lol
17:46 tenplus1 :P
17:46 DS-minetest +
17:46 red-002 tenplus1, wat?
17:46 red-002 what?*
17:47 tenplus1 ehehe
17:47 DS-minetest the question is what happens if she puts the shirt back on
17:47 red-002 0x00000005
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17:50 benrob0329 Wth
17:52 red-002 wth?
17:52 benrob0329 wth.
17:52 red-002 wth!
17:53 benrob0329 htw!
17:53 red-002 wth wth??!
17:53 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNwNNw0u97Y&​amp;list=PL9jDCY0em-MUPcNf25Qj3SfdKa8Tjjqce
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17:56 red-002 did you use notice or something?
17:57 red-002 nvm
17:58 Krock ahah http://imgur.com/gallery/CrP10wJ
18:13 Calinou https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6axvjo/no​w_we_know_who_is_writing_the_error_messages_for/
18:13 Calinou :D
18:13 Calinou my opinion on 4chan, btw: I learned about reddit as "4chan's smarter brother" and I'll continue to call it like that :)
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18:18 tenplus1 hi paramat
18:23 rdococ hi paramat
18:24 Calinou hi paramat
18:25 benrob0329 hi paramat
18:26 paramat oh man
18:26 rubenwardy hi paramat
18:27 Krock hi paramat
18:27 DS-minetest hi paramat
18:27 DS-minetest hah
18:27 shivajiva hi paramat
18:27 rdococ who wants to see Mario Kart in Minetest?
18:27 tenplus1 lol
18:27 * DS-minetest
18:28 rdococ it might happen. if I bother to.
18:28 DS-minetest supertux cart would be nicer to have
18:28 tenplus1 I has that :DDD
18:28 DS-minetest also perhaps it's models are useable
18:29 benrob0329 If they are still compatible
18:29 benrob0329 We need custom shaders
18:29 paramat i'm intending to try create drifting in a vehicle
18:30 benrob0329 Even if custom shaderpacks are only clientmods
18:30 rdococ I was going to add drifting to my vehicle but I think it wouldn't work that well with a mouse controlled kart
18:31 benrob0329 Being able to have material packs like that (coresponding to each material per node as a set value) would open up a lot of flexability
18:32 red-002 shivajiva, away for a week
18:32 benrob0329 Aka like we define textures for each material, only with shaders
18:32 shivajiva thanks
18:32 red-002 I'll be away for the comming week, if anyone asks tell them I'll be back next Tuesday/Wednesday
18:32 red-002 why are you using [off] for that?
18:33 shivajiva dunno lol
18:33 paramat mouse-controlled is fine as it's a more powerful input
18:35 Calinou I can't stand driving with a mouse in a game
18:35 Calinou I prefer the keyboard when I don't have a gamepad around
18:35 Calinou by far
18:37 Krock Calinou, mouse down replacements by keys are coming along
18:37 benrob0329 Calinou: yes, but vehicles will be laggy until we get a proper api for either A) vehicles or B) custom prediction
18:37 Calinou keyboard look in a game is generally useless though
18:37 Calinou but it's nice to have for disabled players, playing with one hand…
18:38 Krock so it'll be possible to control the car, your view by keyboard
18:38 Calinou I remember reading a thread on Minecraft Forums where a player said he had a one-armed friend
18:38 Calinou so he was looking for ways to let him play
18:38 Calinou (the game still doesn't have keyboard look today in vanilla, though)
18:38 rdococ depends which arm
18:38 Calinou I don't remember :D
18:39 rdococ keyboard look wouldn't be too hard I guess, but mouse is more precise
18:39 rdococ Or, alternative solution:
18:39 rdococ Minetest in VR
18:39 rdococ :P
18:41 Calinou heh
18:41 Calinou you'd barf when moving
18:41 Calinou this is a problem in any first-person VR game
18:41 Calinou if you look at the Serious Sam VR games, by default, you can't move in them
18:41 Fixer Calinou: mouse with more buttons + pedals
18:42 Calinou if you change a setting (and have a really strong stomatch), you can
18:42 Calinou Fixer: yeah; steering wheel control… awesome
18:42 Fixer on mouse you can put forward, pedals - left/right
18:42 Calinou "VROOM I'm driving through my sneak ladder VROOM"
18:46 benrob0329 Alright, I'm gonna be off for most of the day
18:46 benrob0329 Bye all!
18:46 tenplus1 laters
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18:47 rdococ VR is indeed better for games where you don't walk
18:47 rdococ e.g. racing games
18:47 DS-minetest bye benrob0329
18:49 Fixer oh boy
18:50 Fixer i can't describe how slow is JT2 spawn
18:50 Fixer like 25 fps...
18:50 Fixer some time ago it was 40 with same view
18:50 Krock offtopic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTwxtYin1p0
18:50 Fixer reason is "sea city"
18:51 Fixer I may found another sneak related bug
18:52 Fixer try sneaking through doors
18:52 Fixer opened doors*
18:52 tenplus1 sneak through open doors ??
18:52 Fixer yep
18:53 DS-minetest and steal all what you find? :P
18:53 paramat krock's PR might fix that
18:54 Fixer one important detail, slab above opened door
18:54 Krock no, it won't
18:54 Fixer will look into vanilla
18:54 Fixer VE-S has literally few particles
18:55 Fixer 1-2 particles at most
18:55 VanessaE Fixer: faucets also produce particles.
18:55 VanessaE but those are usually turned off.
18:55 VanessaE (showerheads, too)
18:55 Fixer just now i see 2 particles in graph
18:55 VanessaE coffee makers also have a continuous "steam" from the coffee cup
18:55 VanessaE (should only be a dozen or so particles for that one)
18:55 Fixer compare this to 250 particles on avg on hometown
18:56 Fixer JT2 has some peaks at 100 particles
18:56 Krock will fix sneaking through doors now
18:56 Fixer 20 particles on VE-s just now
18:56 VanessaE Fixer: near spawn?
18:57 VanessaE Fixer: you probably saw "smoke" particles from an industrial hive extractor I think it is.
18:57 Fixer VanessaE: yeah
18:57 DS-minetest the location doesn't matter i thought, since every player sees all particles
18:57 Fixer VanessaE: very little particles
18:57 VanessaE DS-minetest:  oh right, forgot about that
18:57 Fixer VanessaE: very few particles**
18:58 VanessaE Fixer: for a test, go somewhere and place several bathroom sinks, the put taps above then, and right-click to turn them on
18:58 Fixer VanessaE: graphs show particles from entire server
18:58 rdococ yay particles
18:58 Fixer VanessaE: since they are rendered for everyone it seems
18:59 Fixer so if some guy opens the faucet 60000 blocks away, i will detect it ._.
18:59 VanessaE jeez
19:00 tenplus1 any way to move particles to client only
19:00 DS-minetest hm, sneaking in door teleports at some places
19:00 Fixer VanessaE: thats how I found it out, on Hometown someone blows up TNT 5000 blocks away -> everyone freeze-lags-lowfps-particle-count-sky-high
19:01 Fixer Kaeza signs - 1.74 sec freeze
19:01 DS-minetest in lua the mods could be changed, so, that the particles/-spawners are only showed to players, the function had to be executed multible times
19:02 DS-minetest Fixer: lol, time travel
19:03 Fixer a lot of negative mainloop_other %)
19:03 Fixer -0.002
19:03 Fixer wth?
19:03 red-002 wth!
19:04 DS-minetest the upper half of the door is the problem making part
19:07 rdococ ?
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19:13 tenplus1 hi lumidify
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19:14 tenplus1 wb kaeza
19:15 kaeza greetings tenplus1
19:15 tenplus1 watching a video showing every single Amiga CD32 game :DD
19:16 lumidify Hi tenplus1
19:19 Krock well, Fixer. sneaking through a door wasn't possible either before
19:19 Krock using the old sneak code
19:20 Fixer Krock: ugh.
19:20 tenplus1 I couldnt manage to sneak through the door... hrm
19:20 Fixer i will do something crazier
19:20 Fixer tinytask opening T-chat many times, will leave it for some time, maybe it crashes after few 100x tries
19:20 Krock just tested it on my older 170211 build, which surely doesn't have any modifications in that area
19:22 Krock which reminds me doing another Win32 build ... if anyone cares about that
19:27 tenplus1 I take it the new setting: thing is what we all should be using now for 0.4.16 ???
19:28 Krock huh, what do you mean?
19:30 tenplus1 instead of using minetest.setting_getbool am I now to use settings:get_boot ?
19:30 red-002 get_boot?
19:30 tenplus1 *bool oopd
19:30 tenplus1 dammit
19:30 red-002 yeah that is ready
19:30 red-002 you can still use the old method
19:31 tenplus1 with a million deprecation warnings, but for backwards compatibility with 0.4.14 and 0.4.15 I'm sticking with old method
19:31 tenplus1 any reason it was changed???
19:33 DS-minetest but using the old spamms terminal
19:33 tenplus1 true, but I want certain mods compatible... not everyone updates to new version on their server or just to play with
19:33 red-002 well you could add your own proxy function
19:33 tenplus1 will prolly have to
19:34 tenplus1 did the same with nodupdate and mapgen detection
19:34 tenplus1 it's a pain when perfectly fine functions get changed
19:37 DS-minetest aw, that is really awful with the deprecated messages already
19:38 DS-minetest can't it just count how often it was used and then print it once?
19:38 tenplus1 seems to be the way things go eventually...
19:38 DS-minetest ahh, i seem to even have a mod that uses the function after load O_o
19:39 tenplus1 I still dont get why the change ?
19:44 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/43d1f375d18a2fbc547a9b4f23d1354d645856ca ?????? changes made, but it still works in exactly same way... so WHY change ???
19:56 * tenplus1 listens to Orbital's new album Wonky :P
19:58 Krock tenplus1, it makes the settings look like an own object
19:58 tenplus1 but it worked already... ? why change it now...
19:58 Krock instead of C-type-like functions, that can't be put into namespaces
19:58 Krock for style.
19:58 tenplus1 *facepalm*
19:58 Krock see also the comment
20:00 kaeza 2018: net.minetest.timers.globalstep.register(function() end)
20:02 kaeza still +1 for unifying the interface
20:07 Sokomine hm :-( nobody seems to be intrested in my new mod :-(
20:07 tenplus1 which one ?
20:07 Sokomine citybuilder
20:07 tenplus1 link me plz
20:08 Sokomine atmittedly it's not in a state which would be of intrest to players...still needs mobs
20:08 Sokomine https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=17584
20:09 Sokomine not really useful for multiplayer. but at least somebody ought to be intrested...or is the amount of players intrested in that kind of gameplay too small?
20:09 Fixer opened chat like 1000 times... no luck with crash, hmmm
20:09 Sokomine fixer: any bug will lure in the background and crash your game once you don't expect it :-)
20:09 tenplus1 you've marked as early access so maybe they dont think it's complete enough to use
20:10 Fixer Sokomine: got crash just now on nondebug build, yet my debug one sits for 4 days without luck
20:10 Fixer somehow related to chat
20:10 Sokomine probably. and that's true...someone who just wants to play it needs more (buildings, mobs)
20:10 Fixer i've opened the full chat window, will see how it goes
20:10 Sokomine Fixer: yes, that's annoying. sometimes debug builds seem to be more stable than normal ones
20:11 Fixer Sokomine: probably I don't do enough actions to trigger it since it just afks on server with people and shows chat
20:13 Krock kaeza, we don't want it like Terasology: https://github.com/MovingBlocks/Terasology/b​lob/48bf964/engine/src/main/java/org/terasol​ogy/particles/ParticleSystemManagerImpl.java
20:13 Krock <kaeza>2018: net.minetest.timers.globalstep.register(function() end)   ^
20:14 Sokomine Fixer: well, if you're afk anyway it might not matter much if your client crashes...as long as it's not the server
20:14 Krock (see namespace includes)
20:14 kaeza >org.terasology.entitySystem.entity.lif​ecycleEvents.BeforeDeactivateComponent;
20:14 kaeza lol Java
20:14 Fixer Sokomine: it is client crash that i have, not server one
20:15 Sokomine maybe a timeout? server throwing you out for inactivity and client not handling it properly?
20:16 Sokomine tenplus1: anyway...there are so many mob mods out there. i wonder how far they got and which one will be most usable for that citybuilding purpose
20:16 Fixer Sokomine: not a timeout
20:16 Fixer Sokomine: just wanna type something into chat and it crashes at very same moment
20:17 tenplus1 true, many api's available, but am happy that many mob packs use MObs Redo :))))
20:19 Sokomine Fixer: strange
20:19 Sokomine tenplus1: :-)
20:20 Fixer -ck, commented on wrong issue
20:23 Fixer CYBERPARALLELIZATION
20:26 Calinou mom, help I broke Phoronix https://lut.im/hdi3afCM2O/NMTGdDdVGmGRkGIA.png
20:26 tenplus1 lol
20:26 Calinou this is the CSS that does it: https://hastebin.com/johevopezi.css
20:26 tenplus1 wonky page
20:27 paramat citybuilder seems impressive
20:32 tenplus1 would be nice to have buildings generate on map :D
20:33 Fixer Calinou: lol
20:33 Sokomine ah :-) at least someone who seems to be intrested :-)
20:35 Sokomine guess it really needs npc running around and doing tasks...and probably a diffrent style of buildings
20:42 tenplus1 schems can be build and placed in mod...
20:42 tenplus1 nite all :P
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20:44 paramat well i'm not particularly interested in this sort of thing, but, what you have done seems complex and impressive :]
20:45 Sokomine it's a lot more work behind the scenes than seems obvious. but right now it's more of a lib. and what players really love are mobs that run around. need to get those from somewhere :-)
21:04 Fixer make this slabs texture rotation great again: https://i.imgur.com/SYUjsGN.png
21:23 Calinou I love having introduced slopes to More Blocks
21:24 Calinou now everyone builds curvy things
21:24 Calinou I've seen people make actualy circles using it
21:24 Calinou (it is kinda possible)
21:24 Fixer yes
21:24 Fixer people do use this a lot
21:26 Shara Calinou: My current thing (when I actually have time to play) is building archways using those slopes :)
21:29 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=17593 KEK
21:40 Calinou Shara: :D
21:40 Calinou Fixer: can we call it the Doom 3 torch?
21:40 Calinou if well-placed, turns your game into a clone of Doom 3
21:40 Fixer Calinou: hah
21:40 Shara Calinou: check from about 1:10 on here for the most recent arches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5u1cT8kzg
21:41 Fixer Calinou: actually Minetest up to 0.4.14 was Doom3-like
21:41 Shara The slopes make a massive difference
21:42 Fixer Calinou: i remember doom 3, electricity problems for sure
21:42 Fixer played it
21:42 Fixer finished it
21:43 Calinou I never finished it
21:43 Calinou I got about halfway through in Doom 3 BFG
21:43 Calinou I remember the scene where you go to the restroom after the initial invasion
21:43 Fixer lighter was useful weapon
21:43 Calinou if you look at yourself at the mirror, you hear a scary sound and the screen turns red
21:43 Calinou this should be a reaction GIF, lol
21:47 * Calinou downloads Doom 3 BFG off Steam
21:48 Calinou also Git cloning https://github.com/RobertBeckebans/RBDOOM-3-BFG
21:51 Fixer desert sand here i go @ you are fucked
21:53 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/MIWJK4R.png Sadie Legacy
21:54 * Calinou compiles RBDOOM-3-BFG
21:55 Calinou done!
21:55 Calinou this only took about 25 seconds… wow
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21:58 Calinou Fixer: what server is this?
21:58 Calinou the log looks nice, also with timestamps
21:58 Calinou (I love timestamps!)
21:58 Fixer hometown
21:59 Calinou what does that server feature?
21:59 Fixer Calinou: CSM chat6
22:00 Fixer FUUUUUUUUCK
22:00 Fixer it was 20 particles most of the time, now it is 400
22:00 Sokomine the slopes are definitely nice. i've seen a lot of impressive buildings using them and used them myshelf sometimes
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22:28 red-002 huh chat6 looks like
22:28 red-002 does it highlight you if you say something?
22:39 Sokomine @red-002: why should it? guess you know when you're saying anything :-)
22:47 Fixer red-002: yeah
22:47 Calinou https://doomwiki.org/wiki/GZDoom
22:47 Calinou GZDoom switched to GPLv3 like 15 days ago it seems
22:47 Calinou pretty nice
22:54 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/wtB8zcL.png

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