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01:26 benrob0329 IT BOOTS!!!
01:26 benrob0329 Weeeew!
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01:33 Shara benrob0329: apparently I like playing without node highlighting/outlining more than I expected.
01:33 Shara thanks for that idea. This is fun
01:34 benrob0329 Its nice, isn't it? Having a clean hud :P
01:34 Shara yea
01:34 Shara re-coded it now
01:34 Shara will ask a couple more people to look at the current version before I make a PR
01:45 garywhite what did I miss?
01:47 Shara not much. I was poking code a bit
01:48 benrob0329 garywhite: i installed gentoo :P
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04:41 benrob0329 (Offtopic) https://youtu.be/lQ-UCI9nmis
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06:23 Calinou yes, pretty sure all Minetest apps with ads are violating the LGPL
06:23 Calinou due to proprietary ad SDKs
06:23 Calinou (none of them are open source-friendly)
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06:41 benrob0329 (Kek) http://www.strawpoll.me/12947272
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07:51 tenplus1 hi folks
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08:23 shivajiva Morning tenplus1 :)
08:23 tenplus1 hi shiva
08:24 tenplus1 getting the odd report that players are being teleported inside walls with the new knockback feature
09:14 tenplus1 Mobs Redo updated to 1.35 - Added owner_loyal flag so that owned mobs will attack enemies, fixed group_attack to same mob type
09:54 shivajiva hmm I've had no reports of that yet. lets see what the weekend brings, wouldn't mobs occasionally go through walls or get stuck in them or is this maybe a combo of lag and acceleration
09:55 tenplus1 the new routine uses player moveto so lag and that may cause issue...
09:55 tenplus1 added moveto(pos, true) flag for continouos
09:55 tenplus1 might help
09:56 shivajiva but the entity would have to enter the node to pass it's position as coinciding with a node surely
09:57 tenplus1 true, it would... and the collisionbox of entity is same as player so should never happen...
09:57 tenplus1 it's a weird one... might just be a glitch elsewhere
09:58 shivajiva love these glitches :)
09:58 tenplus1 ehehe
09:58 tenplus1 the new mob loyalty works well though :D
10:00 shivajiva good, do they fight to the death or is there a mechanism for fleeing when health is low?
10:01 tenplus1 I may add that next :) sounds good
10:01 shivajiva :)
10:01 tenplus1 hogs and cows will attack normally when punched, so a tamed one will help protect it's owner now
10:01 tenplus1 dogs also
10:01 shivajiva nice
10:10 tenplus1 xanadu updated
10:12 tenplus1 brb, upgrading net-top memory
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10:25 Zeno` not possible! All PRs are tested extensively
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10:26 tenplus1 back, and with 4gb :PPP
10:27 shivajiva wb :D
10:27 tenplus1 thanks :D
10:27 Zeno` there are officially no bugs that I know of
10:27 shivajiva Hiya Zeno :)
10:27 tenplus1 bugs for what ?
10:27 Zeno` minetest
10:28 shivajiva he's refering to my statement about loving glitches
10:28 tenplus1 eheheh
10:28 shivajiva there are none officially xD
10:29 Zeno` there are a few features
10:29 tenplus1 lol... "features" :PPPP
10:29 shivajiva and everyone is nice and polite, never a cross word round here :)
10:29 Zeno` that's right, shivajiva. You can shut tf up now
10:30 * shivajiva wants to live in this strange world Zeno speaks of
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10:30 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
10:30 shivajiva shutting me up is quite difficult it seems :P
10:31 tenplus1 the only bug I found is the chest inventory name, and am still waiting for pull to be accepted to fix it
10:31 Zeno` be quiet you imbecilic moron! (no offense intended)
10:31 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1731
10:31 shivajiva nice! None taken =)
10:32 Zeno` with the IQ of a pea I would not have expected you to take offense, so good
10:32 Zeno` it's good that we can be nice towards each other
10:32 Darcidride Hi everybody
10:32 shivajiva yea isn't it :)
10:33 shivajiva Hi Darcidride o/
10:33 tenplus1 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/7​36x/9d/26/aa/9d26aacb9f296e5b25e59a401​15931d6--funny-memes-funny-quotes.jpg
10:34 shivajiva Zeno the hun maybe better?
10:34 \o` I don't look at porn
10:35 shivajiva hmm I was thinking Atilla but whatever floats your boat
10:36 \o` I don't have a boat though
10:36 \o` lol
10:36 shivajiva wondered why you were swimming :)
10:43 \o` I am the funky cold medina!
10:44 tenplus1 lol
10:46 \o` look, why are you so fly?
10:46 * tenplus1 is pretty fly for a white guy :P
10:46 \o` put a little medina in ya glass
10:47 \o` a couple of sips of this love potion and...
10:47 \o` gave some to my dog
10:47 \o` and now all the poodles in my neighbourhood come runnin' to my door
10:48 \o` tenplus1, give it to me baby
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10:48 tenplus1 hi fixer
10:49 Fixer hi
10:49 \o` And all the girls say I'm pretty fly (for a white guy)
10:49 shivajiva Hi Fixer
10:50 \o` Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, cinco, seis
10:50 \o` dunno the song though
10:51 \o` tenplus1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM9XkkrhUj0
10:52 tenplus1 lol, nice
10:53 tenplus1 for some reason the video feels like it was created on an Amiga :D
10:53 \o` maybe it was :D
10:54 \o` era is right
10:54 tenplus1 +1 :D
10:55 \o` it's not a demo, but Amiga had that genkey thing (or whatever it was called)
10:55 tenplus1 yeah, chroma key... I had one :DDDDDD
10:55 tenplus1 amazing wee gadget
10:55 \o` yeah
10:56 \o` the original is from 1983/84/85 (somewhere around there)
10:56 \o` but that remix could have been done using Amiga
10:58 \o` tenplus1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk
10:58 \o` LOL
10:58 tenplus1 even back then I was rendering with it and using it for all sorts
10:58 tenplus1 'das my karaoke song o.O
10:58 \o` really? hahahah
10:59 tenplus1 one of my first renders in Imagine 2.0 http://www.deviantart.com/art/Candy-Cog-804267
10:59 \o` hmm, that's pretty nice
11:06 \o` Ooh Aah Just A Little Bit
11:10 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPxoZbEA7sw
11:11 \o` That's not I'm a Barbie Girl
11:11 tenplus1 am also good at B52's Love Shack :D
11:11 \o` no love for The Proclaimers? :(
11:12 \o` or The Ketchup Song?
11:12 tenplus1 good song but I cant sing that one
11:12 \o` ot Cotton Eyed Joe?
11:12 \o` yeah, gotta play that one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDy8HEg1QY
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11:13 tenplus1 hi rubenwardy
11:13 \o` Where did ya come from Cotton Eye Joe?
11:13 \o` so handsome and strong
11:25 \o` bwt, all that stuff I said to shivajiva was a JOKE. I PMd him before I said it
11:25 \o` s/bwt/btw
11:25 \o` just so there is no misunderstanding
11:26 \o` most of it was a joke. I don't like his pink socks
11:33 \o` it's a bit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3kBDtjRtB0
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11:34 * Megaf sneaks in
11:34 tenplus1 hi Megaf
11:34 Megaf Hello 11
11:35 \o` probably a better version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOMMytOeU1g
11:48 shivajiva tbh it just seemed disrespectful Zeno, something to amuse yourself with but there's a fair bit of that floating round MT
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11:50 tenplus1 hi Jordach
11:57 * Jordach has the 1976 release of Rush - 2112
11:57 tenplus1 :P#
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11:58 Jordach tenplus1, jesus this was a bitch to play the whole album in sequence in GH
11:59 tenplus1 gh ?
12:00 Jordach Guitar Hero
12:00 tenplus1 ohhhhh
12:00 Jordach had to play it all one after the other with no stops
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12:28 \o` I miss her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4xXvF2ukY
12:28 \o` :(
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12:30 tenplus1 hi nrz
12:30 nerzhul hi
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12:36 tenplus1 hi nathan
12:36 NathanS21 hi tenplus1
12:38 tenplus1 brb, rebooting :)
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12:39 tenplus1 back
12:40 NathanS21 that was a fast reboot
12:40 tenplus1 yup :) got ssdb drive running lubu 17.04
12:41 Jordach tenplus1, a copied the Guardians Vol 2 soundtrack to a cassette ;)
12:42 Jordach I*
12:42 tenplus1 good tape I hope :D
12:45 Jordach i have a proper deck now, so yes
12:47 tenplus1 was so funny during movie where his walkman was destroyed and he got a zune... ehe
12:48 NathanS21 They still make Zunes. I thought those were dead.
12:49 tenplus1 they are... that's why it was funny...
12:49 NathanS21 ohhh. :D
12:49 tenplus1 he went from one old tech straight to another :D
12:50 NathanS21 I still have one, but it doesn't work with Linux, so it's just a paperweight.
12:50 tenplus1 aww, shame...
12:50 tenplus1 brb again, testing key boot
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12:51 tenplus1 pah! why is it so difficult to boot w10 from a flash drive
12:51 Jordach tenplus1, http://i.imgur.com/Y1iRMrQ.jpg
12:52 tenplus1 lol
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12:57 tenplus1 hi DS-minetest
12:57 DS-minetest hi tenplus1
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13:01 tenplus1 brb again
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13:04 tenplus1 worked that time
13:04 DS-minetest wb
13:04 tenplus1 :P
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13:05 tenplus1 hi lumidify
13:05 lumidify Hi tenplus1
13:09 tenplus1 o.O erk! the new youtube layout is crappy and slow
13:10 DS-minetest again a new layout? and again slower?! -.-
13:10 DS-minetest mean gockle
13:10 tenplus1 why do they keep messing these things up...
13:11 Jordach tenplus1, no new layout for me
13:11 tenplus1 it appears 1 in 5 times supposidly for testing
13:11 tenplus1 chrome especially
13:11 DS-minetest because google seems to want to be annoying
13:11 tenplus1 they cant just keep things simple and easy to look at
13:11 Jordach tenplus1, this is one of the causes that will kill the tech industruy
13:12 NathanS21 I haven't seen this new layout yet, will have to keep my eyes open
13:13 tenplus1 it's quite laggy...
13:13 Jordach tenplus1, the tech industry can;t stick to a design
13:14 Jordach look at how long the coke logo has been around
13:14 * tenplus1 just wants a site he can use without a million popups, ads and javascripts running
13:14 DS-minetest hm, only new thing i see is a switch for autoplay
13:16 tenplus1 new autoplay, new header, new stats below video with icons... weird slide-in animations
13:19 benrob0329 hi tenplus1, Jordach, NathanS21, and DS-minetest
13:19 tenplus1 hi benrob
13:19 NathanS21 hi ben
13:21 benrob0329 What is everybody up to?
13:21 NathanS21 oh I'm just starting on a brand new subgame.
13:21 DS-minetest hi benrob0329
13:21 tenplus1 building a windows 10 bootable flash drive
13:21 benrob0329 NathanS21: cool cool
13:22 benrob0329 tenplus1: eww
13:22 * DS-minetest makes further his mesecons music player
13:22 tenplus1 I know... thankfully it's not for me but a customer :D
13:22 benrob0329 DS-minetest: Awesome! Is it on a server or singleplayer?
13:22 benrob0329 tenplus1: oh, that's good :P
13:23 tenplus1 also mobs redo api updated, has new mob loyalty flag so that tamed animals can defend player
13:23 DS-minetest benrob0329: singleplayer
13:23 benrob0329 To un-split the conversation, I got gentoo installed :D
13:23 benrob0329 Even configured my own kernel :P
13:24 NathanS21 ooohhhh, that sounds pretty sweet. Will have to look into that. I'm going to have some mobs in my subgame that I'd like to be able to have defend the player.
13:24 tenplus1 the group attack feature has been fixed and if player hits a mob then tamed animals will come to their rescue :D
13:25 NathanS21 nice
13:25 benrob0329 that's pretty cool
13:29 tenplus1 brb, booting frm usb
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13:30 tenplus1 pah! no worky
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13:31 tenplus1 hi octacian
13:31 octacian hey tenplus1
13:39 tenplus1 brb
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13:46 cx384 hi all
13:48 tenplus1 hi cx384
13:48 DS-minetest hi
13:49 tenplus1 back larters
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15:03 DS-minetest hm, trapdoors are a nice alternative to sneak elevator as it seems
15:30 rdococ two words:
15:30 rdococ travelnet elevator
15:32 DS-minetest yeah, but that needs a mod that's not included in minetest_game
15:32 DS-minetest hm, i should see if mesecons can trigger trapdoors
15:34 rdococ I don't think mesecons are included in minetest_game
15:35 DS-minetest yes
15:35 DS-minetest but that's only for convenience
15:36 DS-minetest you can hold jump and rmb
15:38 DS-minetest but it's a bit expensive >_<
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16:07 benrob0329 Hi RobbieF
16:08 Calinou hi
16:10 RobbieF hi guys
16:15 DS-minetest hi RobbieF
16:19 rdococ hi
16:22 Sokomine hmm. saplings seem to grow slowly...if at all?
16:23 Sokomine rdococ: that's right. the travelnets and elevators have the added bonus not to have to load all the land inbetween
16:39 benrob0329 I think we need real parkour
16:40 benrob0329 Wall jumping, bracing, rolling
16:40 benrob0329 Then we can do away with alk this sneak elevator crap :P
16:41 rdococ that could be implementable in a mod
16:41 rdococ ...if minetest starts giving players VELOCITY
16:43 benrob0329 We just need a real physics engine too :P
16:43 rdococ That too.
16:43 benrob0329 Bullet ftw
16:43 benrob0329 Or Newte
16:43 benrob0329 *Newton
16:44 rdococ if we model all entities as spherical it wouldn't be too hard
16:44 rdococ :P
16:44 benrob0329 Heh
16:44 Calinou strafejumping in Minetest
16:44 Calinou how about that?
16:44 benrob0329 Idek what that is
16:44 Calinou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUsdNEaKMk
16:44 Calinou so we can have this in Minetest
16:44 benrob0329 I know its a Doom thing
16:44 Calinou nope, Quake
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16:45 * tenplus1 noms
16:45 tenplus1 hi folks
16:46 rdococ The only way we can influence player position right now is 1) setting it directly or 2) changing the gravity
16:46 rdococ which makes me sad.
16:46 tenplus1 hi rdococ
16:46 tenplus1 +100 for player:set_velocity()
16:46 cx384 wb tenplus1
16:46 rdococ we definitely need that, if only for vertical velocity
16:47 rdococ can someone get to work on it?
16:47 rdococ get_velocity would be nice too
16:47 benrob0329 Unfortunately we can't have proper timing for animations in minetest
16:47 benrob0329 So the hud/camera effect for say, rolling would be difficult
16:48 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1731
16:52 tenplus1 this has to be added before 0.4.16 release
16:52 rdococ I did hack together a system to update a player's velocity using gravity. I use it for my wings mod.
16:53 tenplus1 you are basically controlling the entity which the player is attached to... no ?
16:53 benrob0329 that's laggy as heck
16:55 tenplus1 yup, did same routine in mobs api to ride/fly mobs
16:55 tenplus1 *similar
16:55 benrob0329 (Kek) http://www.strawpoll.me/12947272
16:56 tenplus1 Nooooooooooooooo's are winning
16:56 benrob0329 Loooooooooooooools
16:56 rdococ Pooooooooooooooo
16:57 rdococ Yay for the dark side!
16:57 benrob0329 Foooooooooooo
16:57 rdococ They have cookies!
16:57 rdococ Foooooooooooooood!
16:57 benrob0329 Or do they?
16:58 rdococ maybe4
16:58 rdococ 4?
16:58 rdococ lol
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17:01 Sokomine i'd rather love to have players follow rails clientside...
17:01 tenplus1 would be handy.. dont we have getnode clientside ?
17:01 Sokomine isn't that all something where clientside modding might come in handily? eventually at least
17:02 Sokomine what's the poll about, benrob?
17:02 Sokomine getnode is available clientside i think. after all there's the oredetect mod
17:04 tenplus1 could do same for playerplus
17:04 red-002 yes csm has get_node
17:04 red-002 even find node
17:06 tenplus1 just gotta make sure players are running latest version of mt or it wont work tho
17:07 DS-minetest (oredetect uses find_node_near, not get_node)
17:07 DS-minetest hm, does csm have voxelmanip?
17:09 red-002 no
17:09 DS-minetest ooh
17:09 DS-minetest k
17:09 red-002 csm also has get_node
17:09 DS-minetest does it have registered_items?
17:10 DS-minetest i'm asking too much
17:10 tenplus1 registered items should be global for all mods
17:10 red-002 bigfoot is working on adding that
17:10 benrob0329 Sokomine: just something fun I did last night, feel free to spread it around :P
17:10 DS-minetest ok
17:11 red-002 it's not going to work like the server-sided version through
17:11 * rdococ hugs everyone
17:11 rdococ red++
17:11 DS-minetest i've started some time ago to make a waypoints csm (only formspec yet)
17:12 DS-minetest csm would need a way to store something world specific
17:12 rdococ wait, red-004?
17:12 DS-minetest red-004: that was one too much
17:12 DS-minetest red-004--
17:12 Shara Hello all
17:12 DS-minetest red--*
17:13 DS-minetest hey Shara
17:13 red-002 the ad hoc red-*** system is ad hoc
17:13 tenplus1 hi Shara
17:13 benrob0329 red += 1
17:13 tenplus1 what would be nice is multi-cpu support for engine... then server could handle a lot more easily
17:14 rdococ red = 003
17:14 benrob0329 it'd need to be more modular
17:14 benrob0329 So that bits could be split off into there own thread
17:14 DS-minetest red = red:sub(1, 6)..red:sub(-1)
17:14 tenplus1 true... but separating gfx, sound, mapgen etc. into their own processes would help game in the longrun
17:15 tenplus1 or even using GPU to handle server control instead of cpu
17:15 benrob0329 Eh..cpu is probably better for that afaik
17:16 benrob0329 But dumping more into the gpu if possible would be good
17:16 DS-minetest red-00: red:sub(-1) returned "3"
17:16 rdococ red = "red-003"
17:17 DS-minetest red = nil
17:17 DS-minetest mwuhaha
17:17 rdococ :c
17:17 tenplus1 lolol
17:18 DS-minetest hm, so, it should be a number, not a string
17:18 tenplus1 ooh, their is a pull for entity sanitize for NaN that would be handy going in... since no real error checking takes plaec for NaN
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17:18 tenplus1 wb nrz
17:18 DS-minetest hi nerzhul
17:18 nerzhul hi guys
17:18 nerzhul and girlz
17:18 benrob0329 moving things into glsl and locking drivers to ogl might help with newer (>5 years old) systems
17:19 DS-minetest so, noone?
17:19 benrob0329 My computer was built early last year
17:19 benrob0329 I think
17:20 benrob0329 idr exactly
17:20 tenplus1 most players will be using a multi-cpu computer/phone/tablet now
17:20 benrob0329 But moving things to gpu will help with the cpu -> gpu bottleneck
17:21 DS-minetest while true do red += red end
17:21 benrob0329 And you'd need to modularize anyways for that
17:21 garywhite what did I miss?
17:21 tenplus1 hi gary
17:21 benrob0329 The end of the world
17:21 garywhite hi ten
17:21 rdococ I wonder if anyone has tried to build a computer system without a CPU (relying solely on the GPU).
17:21 DS-minetest garywhite: red-NaN changed his name
17:22 benrob0329 rdococ: the gpu usnt built to manage hardware
17:22 benrob0329 *isnt
17:22 benrob0329 So yoy cant
17:22 rdococ benrob0329, then give it a way to manage hardware. just not a fully fledged CPU.
17:22 benrob0329 s/yoy/you
17:23 benrob0329 Then that would be a cph
17:23 benrob0329 *u
17:23 rdococ okay, fine
17:23 rdococ how about a CPU whose capabilities are closer to that of a GPU
17:23 benrob0329 Intel?
17:23 garywhite The architecture of the GPU, etc. would not be able to handle the instructions of a standard CPU
17:24 tenplus1 am surprised that Nvidia havent merged a cpu/gpu like intel/ati yet
17:24 benrob0329 I'm glad
17:24 nerzhul Calinou, https://qz.com/981029/a-federal-cou​rt-has-ruled-that-an-open-source-li​cense-is-an-enforceable-contract/
17:24 benrob0329 We don't need another proprietary cpu chipset on the market
17:24 tenplus1 do arm own mali gfx controllers ?
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17:25 tenplus1 hi LazyJ
17:25 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;)
17:25 rdococ isn't a GPU good at array programming?
17:25 garywhite & basically, you're saying about any modern Intel CPU rdococ
17:27 Shara Hello the LazyJ
17:27 benrob0329 >licensed under the GNL GPU.
17:28 benrob0329 Kek
17:30 Calinou nerzhul: yeah
17:31 Calinou GPL has been enforceable since like what, 1997?
17:31 Calinou tons of people still get away with GPL violations, unfortunately
17:31 Calinou tons of GPL violations are never discovered, too
17:34 LazyJ Howdy Shara ;)
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17:36 tenplus1 hi kaeza
17:36 kaeza hi tenplus1
17:40 tenplus1 UdEdwin's multi-dimensions mod looks prtty good... it's the map layering feature I keep asking paramat for :DD
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17:45 tenplus1 hi Krock
17:46 Krock o/ tenplus1
17:48 Sokomine rdococ: isn't the raspberry pi what you're asking for? mostly gpu...with a cpu as add-on...
17:48 Shara Hi Krock
17:49 Sokomine hi
17:49 rdococ tenplus1, can you link me to it?
17:49 tenplus1 hi Sokomine
17:49 tenplus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f​=11&amp;t=16009&amp;hilit=multi+dimension
17:50 tenplus1 been asking for this type of feature for years now...  a way to have mapgen work in layers so make different dimensions
17:50 tenplus1 granted this one uses voxelmanip, but would be a lot faster in engine
17:53 LazyJ Mapgens - any harm switching between default mapgens on the same world?
17:53 LazyJ Other than biome and mapgen edge clashing?
17:53 tenplus1 the normal(default) mapgen is in play, the dimensions are separated by 800 nodes going into the sky
17:53 tenplus1 and will be as close as 80 nodes at some points (whch can be changes)
17:53 tenplus1 *d
17:53 LazyJ I meant the current selection of mapgens in MT.
17:54 tenplus1 it uses voxelmanip so I doubt using v5/v6/v7/flat/valleys would make a diff
17:54 LazyJ Like taking a v6 world and changing the setting to v7.
17:55 tenplus1 does anyone still ue v6?
17:55 tenplus1 *use
17:55 LazyJ I do.
17:55 tenplus1 o.O
17:55 LazyJ More specifically, LinuxGaming2.
17:55 benrob0329 VE servers do I believe
17:55 LazyJ No world wipes in the past four years.
17:55 Sokomine er, yes. i usually use v6 (i think)
17:56 tenplus1 doesnt v6 draw the tree's using voxelmanip, whereas the others place a schem
17:56 Shara LazyJ: You'd probably get weird mapgen at the points where they switch at least
17:56 LazyJ v6 may be boring to the current crowd but it has been the most stable for the longest time.
17:56 Shara I've actually always liked v6
17:56 Sokomine the newer mapgens are too..strange...for me in some areas. admittedly i don't run a server and even switched to flat lately in a new world as that makes building the structures i need a lot easier
17:56 Shara v7 is just weird at times
17:57 tenplus1 lol, all depends on seed :D
17:57 red-NaN ^
17:57 rdococ fractal
17:57 tenplus1 why is fractal there ? do ppl use that one
17:57 benrob0329 v7 + floatlands + spacey mod stuffs
17:57 Shara RC is on v7 and has some areas that are beautiful, then every so often you find something that is just mad
17:57 rdococ I myself like the valleys mapgen
17:57 Sokomine i don't like mapgens with extreme overhangs and floating parts. they can be impressive from time to time, but...i usually prefer "realistic". even if it's very small-scaled for that
17:57 Shara rdococ: Yup, valleys is the best in my opinion
17:58 Shara That's why I used it on DL
17:58 tenplus1 he's part way there with floatlands... all we need now is the possibility to register a BASE biome which the other biomes can attach to at different levels in the map...
17:58 LazyJ Weird mapgen at the switch points doesn't bother me. LG has gone through several code changes in v6. I believe that is where most of the box canyons/cliffs and squared-off, abrupt biome changes came from.
17:58 Sokomine tenplus1: there used to be servers (one named road?) who used some fractal mapgens. might be fun for an experiment, but...not practical
17:59 Shara I checked a fractal map once for like.. half hour
17:59 Shara I don't see the point of it being included to be honest
17:59 LazyJ As for mapgen preference, my main singleplayer world uses paramat's "Watershed".
17:59 tenplus1 it's too weird to navigate
17:59 rdococ I also like large scale terrain
17:59 LazyJ That makes v7 look mild.
18:00 rdococ watershed?
18:00 Shara valleys + ethereal any day :)
18:00 tenplus1 ehehe
18:00 Shara it just works
18:00 Krock brb
18:00 Sokomine flat does have its merits as well :-)
18:00 Shara and works is what I should be doing, if I ever want to finish that PR
18:01 * Shara runs away
18:01 tenplus1 :P
18:01 * Sokomine wonders where shara has gone and why there's a wild PR hanging around
18:05 benrob0329 *A wild PR has appeared!
18:05 * tenplus1 tosses a git-ball
18:06 * tenplus1 caught a rare issue
18:08 benrob0329 Lol
18:10 Jordach >di.fm/classictrance
18:10 Jordach >sandstorm
18:10 Jordach *autistic screeching*
18:10 rdococ ...
18:11 * tenplus1 likes trance
18:11 rdococ . o O ( people who use autism as an insult may have autism and self-hatred )
18:13 Jordach >doesn't know of the autistic screeching meme
18:14 red-NaN >greentext on irc
18:14 rdococ >clearly the best insult is your mother
18:16 red-NaN >gets insulted
18:24 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzisLewjHeM
18:24 rdococ >clearly your mother is the best insult
18:31 benrob0329 >clearly my mother dishes out the best insults
18:32 rdococ >clearly your mother is Mrs. Who
18:32 benrob0329 You lost me there
18:32 rdococ The COW made a reference to COW Jim at the expense of Bob the Killer COW while Doctor COW listened, befuddled
18:35 tenplus1 moo!
18:35 rdococ hm
18:35 rdococ Imagine a vampire and a human in a room with a big wall mirror. If the vampire bites the human, what happens to the human's reflection?
18:36 tenplus1 translucency?
18:36 rdococ I'm ignoring the fact that the human may turn into a vampire.
18:36 rdococ The point is, does the reflection get bitten?
18:37 tenplus1 yes
18:37 kaeza no
18:37 rdococ Huh.
18:37 LazyJ I proffer "yes".
18:38 tenplus1 vampires dont show up in mirrors but there effect on the world around them will, so biting a human you will see the teethmarks and blood until the human turns and becomes transparent over time until they vanish
18:38 LazyJ The vampire may not be reflected in the mirror but the consequences of the vampire's actions are.
18:38 LazyJ Though, in more modern terms, the victim will adorn an IRS badge. :0)-
18:38 rdococ What happens if you imagine the mirror as a seamless portal to a flipped dimension?
18:39 tenplus1 then it remains in your imagination :DDDDD
18:39 * tenplus1 imagines the mirror as a huge glassy donut
18:39 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/LRjEgGn.png
18:39 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/SQaXhI5.png
18:40 rdococ lol
18:41 tenplus1 oh no, my donut is a vampire: http://onthegoinmco.com/wp-conte​nt/uploads/2015/10/IMG_3661.jpg
18:41 rdococ Vampire mirrors?
18:41 rdococ Do vampire mirrors reflect vampires?
18:43 tenplus1 https://www.wattpad.com/90004129​-why-vampires-have-no-reflection
18:47 Fixer ----, forgot to start my afk gdb acc
18:50 rdococ "And last but not least, scatter seeds around your house because vampires like counting them and can get distracted, which will give you time to escape"
18:50 rdococ Seriously?
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18:50 tenplus1 lol ahahaha
18:51 rdococ Well, how about the mirror thing?
18:51 rdococ kaeza: do you think that vampires could "desync" a world from its reflection?
18:52 rdococ Making different things happen.
18:52 tenplus1 maybe they live in the plane next to the living so in turn do not reflect in mirrors but can manipulate objects
18:53 tenplus1 and can only be seen by beings with pineal glands
18:54 rdococ What about cameras?
18:54 rdococ Can a vampire be photographed?
18:54 tenplus1 cameras only pick up light in the current plane
18:54 rdococ What if you're on land?
18:54 rdococ :P
18:55 tenplus1 lolz
18:56 rdococ Also, what if you stuff a pineal gland into a camera?
18:56 tenplus1 ahahaha
18:56 tenplus1 biological and technological mixes arent so hot right now
18:57 rdococ What if you manufacture a prosthetic pineal gland?
18:57 tenplus1 cant be done...
18:57 tenplus1 the pineal gland is responsible for dreaming, visions, the inner voice of your mind and hallucination
18:58 rdococ The pineal gland produces melatonin, says Wikipedia.
18:58 tenplus1 your effective 3rd eye
18:58 rdococ What if you manufacture a melatonin emitting device?
18:59 tenplus1 lol, it produces dmt also
18:59 tenplus1 that's found in almost everything in nature
18:59 rdococ what if you manufacture a melatonin and dmt emitting device?
19:01 tenplus1 it's one thing to synthesize melatonin and dmt but it's another to have an electronic pineal gland use them in a way that would allow it to take other wordly photos :PP
19:09 rdococ What about a human with a malfunctioning pineal gland?
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19:10 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139
19:10 rdococ hi DI3HARD139. we're discussing the physics of vampires and humans with malfunctioning pineal glands.
19:11 tenplus1 a damaged pineal gland would result in sleep problems, learning difficulties, mood issues, no energy
19:11 tenplus1 flouride effects pineal glands
19:11 rdococ Would it also result in being unable to see vampires?
19:11 DI3HARD139 Hello  |  That's an interesting topic
19:12 tenplus1 since it's been called the third eye and our look into dreamstates and other things like that then maybe...
19:12 DI3HARD139 More then likely
19:13 rdococ If you have depth perception in your mind, does that mean you have a fourth eye?
19:13 tenplus1 it is also really good at detecting light, hence the sleep assist... also when you arent wearing sunglasses it can detect the right amount of melanin to release in the body to stop you burning
19:13 DI3HARD139 What do you refer to as "depth perception"?
19:14 rdococ DI3HARD139, two-eyed perception.
19:14 DI3HARD139 I see
19:14 DI3HARD139 I would assume so
19:15 DI3HARD139 Given that you are able to see further
19:15 DI3HARD139 Into the thoughts
19:16 tenplus1 it is said that the little voice we use to read to ourselves inside our head originates from the pineal, and when damaged we lose that function and find it harder to learn :)
19:17 DI3HARD139 Now. What if you have trained yourself to ignore that voice in the head??
19:18 rdococ ah
19:18 rdococ My little voice is advanced. It can play music.
19:18 tenplus1 it's an extremely hard thing to do since it's ingrained into you
19:18 tenplus1 rdococ: same :P
19:19 tenplus1 you ever hold "what if" sessions in your head ?
19:19 DI3HARD139 Yep
19:19 rdococ I basically held a "what if" session on this channel a few minutes ago.
19:20 DI3HARD139 I have had moments when I would walk around in rooms of an apartment that I lived in 12 years ago
19:20 tenplus1 lol, it's one thing typing and asking other folk, it's another playing it inside your head and imagining the playback liek amovie
19:20 DI3HARD139 indeed
19:22 * DI3HARD139 is getting annoyed attempting to get used to his new keyboard. Keeps hitting caps lock instead of "a" and "w" instead of "e"
19:22 tenplus1 it's strangely fun losing yourself in thought  like that :D
19:22 tenplus1 it's not dvorak is it DI3HARD139?
19:22 DI3HARD139 Logitech G710+
19:22 rdococ Those are definitely QWERTY typos.
19:23 tenplus1 ehehe
19:24 tenplus1 has anyone ever read any books from Peter F. Hamilton ??
19:24 DI3HARD139 Never  heard of him
19:25 tenplus1 he's a british scifi author who writes many great stories with insight into technology and how it progresses from here into the future...
19:26 tenplus1 and one of those tech is neural nanonics where we literally have a pc in our head which overlays it's functions into our vision/hearing and lets us THINK about typing to other people, reading email, surfing web, ordering taxi/food etc etc etc
19:26 rdococ Heh.
19:27 rdococ It would be interesting if vampires could desync a world from its flipped counterpart.
19:27 DI3HARD139 indeed it would
19:28 rdococ In fact, in my WIP fictional world, it would allow you to go through the mirror, and actually enter the mirror dimension.
19:28 tenplus1 in astral projection it's said that the mirror can be a portal into another world.dimension.dream
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19:40 Hijiri so what I'm getting is that fluoride water is a vampire conspiracy?
19:40 tenplus1 hahaha
19:40 DI3HARD139 lol
19:40 rdococ lol
19:40 rdococ and toothpaste.
19:40 tenplus1 flouride is quite bad in many ways for the body, and many alternatives to anti-tooth decay substances
19:41 tenplus1 are available
19:42 rdococ see?
19:42 rdococ vampire conspiracy
19:42 tenplus1 lolz
19:46 rdococ hi red-002
19:47 rdococ red = 3
19:47 tenplus1 wb red
19:51 rdococ hi red
20:04 benrob0329 flouride is bad for vampires, did I get that right?
20:06 rdococ Actually, vampires put flouride into water to mess with our pineal glands and turn them invisible, because vampires can only be seen by entities with pineal glands.
20:07 tenplus1 heh, yup :P
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20:07 tenplus1 hi Jordach
20:07 rdococ hi
20:08 Jordach >accidentially closes quassel
20:08 Fixer something nice for windows users: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382
20:08 benrob0329 it'd be hard for me to accidentally close my weechat server
20:08 rdococ Actually, vampires are the real heroes. If they're invisible to humans, then they can't desync the mirror world from the main world, and it won't open a giant barrel of philosophical worms.
20:09 tenplus1 lol, win10 isnt as secure as ppl think
20:09 Jordach tenplus1, and now you understand the use of Win 10 S ;)
20:09 tenplus1 lol yep
20:09 rdococ People think win10 is secre?
20:09 rdococ secure*
20:10 tenplus1 lol
20:10 Jordach don't download stupid shit
20:10 Jordach and use a goddamn adblocker
20:10 tenplus1 and NOT edge or ie
20:10 Jordach (plus i forked out for malwarebytes pro ;) )
20:10 rdococ and switch to Linux ;)
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20:12 Jordach and then where's the major game devs
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20:12 Fixer Jordach: "remote code execution if an attacker sends specially crafted messages to a Microsoft Server Message Block 1.0 (SMBv1) server."
20:12 tenplus1 lol
20:12 Fixer there is no way adblock will help you
20:13 Fixer nor win s
20:13 Fixer i'm behind CGNAT, should be safe, from that, but I also configured firewall
20:14 Jordach Fixer, i'm using Malwarebytes Premium V3
20:14 Jordach they put their anti-exploit software into the main software
20:16 Fixer and look how windows update is useless againts this attack
20:16 Fixer people got infected before update
20:17 Fixer literally after connecting to internet
20:17 Fixer without browsing anything
20:17 Jordach Fixer, it still requires the attacker to know the IP addr
20:17 Jordach and then the local LAN addr
20:17 Fixer Jordach: just spam it to everything
20:18 Jordach Fixer, and any modern router that isn't ISP provided filters that shit out
20:18 Jordach (read: don't run shit in a DMZ)
20:20 Jordach and it's times like this where MS is vindicated about forced updates
20:21 rdococ YaY
20:21 Jordach Fixer, >A patch for the vulnerability was released by Microsoft in March, but many systems may not have had the update installed.
20:21 Jordach that line proves that MS *was* right about forced updates
20:21 rdococ so I'm hearing, windows was phcuked?
20:21 rdococ yay!
20:21 Jordach people need to learn it's their fault if they don't get fucking the "vaccine"
20:21 Jordach not Microsofts
20:21 Fixer Jordach: if talking about security only updates - probably, but not for ADS
20:22 rdococ I didn't get a flu vaccine once. everyone else got the flu. I didn't.
20:22 Jordach Fixer, take that up with the IT industry
20:22 Jordach not MS
20:22 rdococ Jordach, how is MS incorporating ads into their base OS anything to do with the rest of IT?
20:22 Jordach because they bandwagon'd
20:22 benrob0329 I'm just gonna go use Linux, where people like updates and security holes are patched asap
20:22 Jordach *cough* heartbleed
20:23 benrob0329 Which was...gues wgat...fixed!
20:23 benrob0329 Shitty mobile keyboards
20:23 Jordach benrob0329, fixed yes, but was there for *years*
20:23 benrob0329 As was intels NIC vulnerability
20:24 Jordach benrob0329, no matter what shit you do to protect yourself: consumer tech by default is always insecure, including custom modifications
20:24 * tenplus1 uses wired keyboard and mouse... dont like wireless
20:25 * benrob0329 thinks he'd rather ditch computers than go back to M$
20:26 * rdococ would rather burn his computer rather than put windows back on it
20:26 * tenplus1 is very happy with playonlinux, wine and steam for gaming now :D
20:27 benrob0329 Windows: hide and abstract the overly complex system that nobody can figure out or tweak without use of external tools because who'd need to do that anyways?
20:28 rdococ Microsoft: HANDS UP! THIS IS A ROBBERY! GIVE US ALL OF YOUR MONEY AND PERSONAL DATA!
20:29 benrob0329 Linux/Unix: teach the user about how the simple to configure system works ubder the hood, use text files to write configurations and do so in bliss
20:29 Jordach rdococ, yet you already gave that info to FB/Google
20:29 benrob0329 *under
20:29 rdococ Jordach, true but I have switched to DDG
20:29 benrob0329 ^^ and I don't post my whole fricking life on the internet
20:30 tenplus1 a good idea, facebook owns whatever information you enter and can do anything with it
20:32 Jordach tenplus1, benrob0329 i wouldn't give a shit anyways, the tech bubble is about to burst again
20:32 tenplus1 ooh, whaddya think will happen ?
20:32 benrob0329 What I share on facebook: memes and tech articles
20:32 Jordach IT becomes a dead industry
20:32 benrob0329 that's a bit far fetched
20:32 tenplus1 the world is owned by computers so IT wont die so easily, unless they make the Os and tech idiot proof
20:32 Jordach benrob0329, think about it
20:33 Jordach how much infrastructure dies when S3 or AWS falls over
20:33 benrob0329 A lot
20:34 benrob0329 But a lot of companies self host if they're doing that much
20:35 Jordach benrob0329, and most bosses want shit there and then
20:36 Jordach hubris is the only word that describes the current IT industry as a whole
20:37 Fixer Jordach: there are a lot of places that has no IT bubble at all
20:38 Jordach Fixer, because it's deemed un-neccesary
20:39 Fixer a lot of companies don't care about IT, don't have fancy web side nor admin team and use stuff like W98/WXP/W7 and don't care about anything much, using webmail and thats all
20:39 Fixer so you end up with little to no IT jobs
20:39 Fixer no sysadmin, no dev
20:40 Jordach Fixer, people can't disconnect from the Internet anymore, and it's becoming a fucking issue nobody is talking about
20:40 Jordach the literal monster in the room
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20:41 benrob0329 "can't" is a strong word
20:41 Jordach benrob0329, and yet the best way to put it
20:42 Jordach benrob0329, children now are living indoors without even experiencing what the world is like without a tablet as a parent
20:43 benrob0329 that's the fault of the parents
20:43 Jordach it isn't
20:43 rdococ it's very hard to live life without the internet nowadays
20:43 * DI3HARD139 is back
20:43 benrob0329 Oh? Parents should be dictating what their child does
20:43 Jordach benrob0329, to a degreee
20:44 rdococ I disagreeee
20:44 DI3HARD139 for their future or as they are growing up?
20:44 benrob0329 as they are growing up
20:45 benrob0329 What the child does for a living is not really up to the parents (not once 18 anyways)
20:45 Jordach benrob0329, give them choice
20:45 Jordach but don't take the fucking easy way out
20:45 DI3HARD139 never take the easy way out
20:46 benrob0329 Kids should be shown wholesome entertainment (not the crap known as edutainment necessarily)
20:47 benrob0329 and should not just be plopped down with a tablet and the latest free game
20:48 Jordach benrob0329, a child is naturally explorative
20:48 Jordach a tablet strips that
20:48 Calinou I grew up with a PC in my room since I was 9 or so
20:48 Calinou it did not make me an evil person, like some people like to say
20:48 Calinou it's the same thing as first-person shooters in the 90s: people thought players of these games would all become crazy guys, except they're not: they're perfectly normal now
20:49 benrob0329 Oh yes the "violent video games" thing
20:49 Calinou kids know how to regulate themselves at a certain age
20:49 Calinou it depends on the person, though
20:49 Jordach Calinou, hedonism is the most powerful drug
20:49 benrob0329 Except its a gosh darn kitten compared to most movies the adults watch
20:50 rdococ I think that taking your stress out on violent video games could actually help prevent real violence
20:50 Calinou violent movies can make me uneasy, as well as some modern violent games (I played Wolfenstein: The New Order, sometimes it was pretty gory)
20:50 Calinou but 90s violent games are nothing, really
20:50 benrob0329 "Oh there's a little blood in it? BURN IT WITH FIRE!"
20:50 Calinou what they depict is violent, but it is way too unrealistic
20:50 Calinou rdococ: it's debated
20:51 Calinou people playing eg. GTA have been shown to be more agressive a few hours/days after playing
20:51 Calinou and I tend to feel that a bit too, especially with GTA V which feels very realistic
20:51 Calinou after playing GTA V, I sometimes even felt like I was in the game, while being outside…
20:51 Calinou this did not happen with the older games
20:51 rdococ depends how you play GTA though
20:51 Calinou well, you pretty much have to play GTA V in a violent way
20:51 Calinou few missions can be done without killing anyone
20:52 Calinou multiplayer can involve killing quite a bit, too :P
20:52 * Sokomine puts up a sign "WANTED: npc" (for work in singleplayer worlds)
20:52 rdococ lol
20:52 rdococ well, in some cases Mario Kart players have shown to be more aggressive during the game :P
20:52 Calinou :)
20:52 benrob0329 Heh, this is true
20:52 tenplus1 lol Sokomine
20:53 benrob0329 The non violent games are the most frustrating
20:53 Calinou well, I'm fine with Minecraft and the like
20:53 Calinou or even RTSes which are not that gory most of the t ime
20:53 Calinou time*
20:53 Calinou or racing games :P
20:54 rdococ except mario kart :P
20:54 Calinou btw, Dirt Rally seems to be on sale
20:54 Calinou but not sure if I'll get it
20:54 benrob0329 For linux?
20:54 Calinou it's €15, but I don't think I have the time to play it
20:54 Calinou too bad, because it has Linux support now
20:54 benrob0329 Ooohhh
20:54 Calinou I have Dirt 3 but no Linux
20:54 benrob0329 I'm gonna buy it
20:54 benrob0329 Thanks Cal!
20:54 Calinou also Dirt Showdown but that one's very much 7/10
20:54 Calinou no problem, saw it on Dealsb
20:54 Calinou Dealabs
20:54 Calinou http://store.steampowered.​com/app/310560/DiRT_Rally/
20:55 Calinou game is free until Sunday
20:55 Calinou but you can already buy it
20:55 Sokomine Calinou: i don't know. the only time i played gta i played it in a diffrent way. i was more intrested in how far the simulation went, where there where inconsistencies. exploring the world was the most intresting part
20:55 Calinou https://steamdb.info/app/310560/graphs/
20:55 Calinou heh, player graph showing the player base skyrocketing
20:55 Calinou Sokomine: yeah, exploring can be pretty interesting
20:56 Calinou trying out things with cheat codes too :D
20:56 Calinou GTA III had a ton of quirks and other idiosyncrasies
20:56 Calinou *falls down 15 meters, loses 20 health*
20:57 Calinou *goes leg-deep in beach, dies*
20:57 Calinou beach water
20:57 Calinou :D
20:57 rdococ everyone knows beach water is full of calconasepotisite, which is dangerous to GTA characters
20:57 Jordach benrob0329, the monster that is caused by technology addiction isn't being treated as a serious problem
20:57 tenplus1 lolol
20:58 Jordach think about how many kids you find now glued to their phone on whatever social app
20:58 Calinou there's a difference between being a compulsive user and being an addict
20:58 Calinou I'm on the computer a lot, since a while, but I would not define myself as an addict
20:58 rdococ think how many people are discussing the issue of technology on IRC
20:58 Calinou more like compulsive
20:58 Sokomine Calinou: i also think that was an older version of gta. it ran on some sort of console some years ago. maybe newer games do indeed make a difference. hard to tell with my non-gaming graphics card :-)
20:58 Jordach rdococ, because computer nerds can't socialise properly
20:58 Calinou it's also resulting in plenty of positive things
20:59 Jordach Calinou, no, that's bullshit
20:59 Calinou it's how I can write/read English like I do today, it's how I learned programming, it's how I'll probably get my job
20:59 rdococ Jordach, I have trouble socializing
20:59 rdococ also, Calinou is right
20:59 Sokomine but then...people where terribly worried about games like doom back then. and now it's considered unproblematic
20:59 Calinou yeah
20:59 Sokomine Calinou: those bugs sound fun :-)
20:59 rdococ let's get our faces out of the ground and face the real problem: mario kart :P
20:59 Calinou I played Doom when I was 4.5, but only a bit, I remember levels like E1M3 trolling me (the computer room with secret areas)
21:00 Calinou I only played it again when I was 17, in late 2015
21:00 Calinou (finished episode 1 fully)
21:00 Jordach Calinou, but using it like your only skillset is a bad idea
21:00 Calinou then played it more and more until I was a fan :P
21:00 Calinou now I have all Doom engine games (or almost)
21:00 Calinou made a small map for fun, too
21:00 Calinou (not released)
21:00 Calinou read a ton of Doom wiki pages, too
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21:01 Calinou Jordach: well, I'll admit it, there's not a whole lot of non-computer things I'm skilled or talented at
21:01 Calinou when I draw, I draw like crap, when I color, I go over borders (:D)
21:02 Jordach Calinou, i've began to hate technology now
21:02 Calinou I wish I could do art stuff but I can't
21:02 Calinou (very few people succeed in being both a programmer and an artist)
21:02 Calinou it surely does exist
21:02 Calinou but it's so rare
21:05 Calinou did anyone here hear fireworks outside?
21:05 Calinou I heard some 10 minutes ago, and someone I know (who's in a completely different timezone) did too
21:06 Jordach no
21:06 Calinou oh, my dad told me why
21:06 Calinou thanks anyway
21:12 Jordach https://80.lv/articles/stonequest-pro​cedural-voxel-take-on-world-building/
21:12 Jordach ooh
21:12 Sokomine for reasons unkown i can't draw with a computer. i wasn't too bad at it back in school with normal pens and brushes. but with a mouse and graphic editors i just don't get what i want
21:12 Calinou I can't draw with a PC either anyway
21:12 Calinou and my modelling always looks like crap
21:13 Sokomine no, no fireworks here
21:13 tenplus1 only artistic thing I've done lately is making textures :P
21:13 Calinou …our local soccer team won a match
21:13 Calinou that was why
21:14 Sokomine aah
21:14 Sokomine those can be pretty loud
21:16 benrob0329 I can do modeling, I wouldn't say I'm great at it but I manage
21:16 Jordach Calinou, HOLY FUCK
21:17 * Jordach set Stonequest to maximum
21:17 Calinou better set Terasology to maximum
21:17 Calinou good for heating your room in the winter
21:17 Jordach the executeable is 1,051KB
21:17 Jordach according to windows
21:17 Calinou procedural generation does wonders
21:17 Calinou but it's at the cost of CPU/GPU usage and probably load times
21:18 Calinou GPUs can do procedural plenty fast usually, though
21:18 Jordach Calinou, solid 60Fps here
21:18 Calinou it can be massively parralel
21:18 Calinou parallel*
21:18 Jordach (on med/high)
21:18 Jordach 30-40fps on Ultra
21:18 Calinou Substance Designer is crazy fast to generate 2K or 4K textures
21:18 Calinou it uses the GPU for that exclusively
21:18 Fixer Jordach: btw I was having january security only rollup, firewall+router+cgnat probably helped to avoid the problem, patched it
21:19 Fixer cgnat sucks tbh
21:20 Jordach Fixer, oh look, on time patching stopping malware?
21:20 Jordach neverrrrr
21:20 benrob0329 When I upgrade my gpu, I'm getting an amd card
21:21 benrob0329 Nvidia drvers suck
21:21 Fixer Jordach: closed ports via firewall usually helps with this
21:22 tenplus1 amb/ati opensource drivers have come a long way in linux, they work really well
21:23 Jordach Calinou, Fixer, tenplus1 http://stonequest.de/
21:23 Fixer Jordach: looking at it
21:23 Jordach Fixer, my RX 480 runs high at 60fps
21:23 Calinou "Ce plug-in n'est pas compatible."
21:23 Calinou :D
21:23 Jordach so there's no nVidia bollocks to fuck things up
21:23 Calinou (French for missing plugin)
21:24 Jordach even the blades of grass have those scored thin lines on them
21:25 Jordach "This makes the final .exe file just below 15 Megabytes (1 Mb client + 14 Mb content data)!"
21:26 Fixer Jordach: where is singleplayer?
21:26 Jordach Fixer, *shrug*
21:26 Fixer it asks for acc and then password...
21:26 Jordach Fixer, just like MT's system
21:26 Jordach (no emails needed)
21:27 Jordach i hear fireworks too
21:27 Jordach wat
21:27 Fixer Jordach: it is just a client?
21:27 Jordach Fixer, basically
21:28 tenplus1 nite folks
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21:31 Fixer Jordach: 40 fps at med settings
21:32 Fixer Jordach: UI is creepy
21:32 Jordach wat
21:32 DI3HARD139 Something is telling me someone is hating on Nvidia
21:32 DI3HARD139 Imma read chat history
21:33 Fixer Jordach: was hoping it is open source...
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21:42 red-002 great my debug.txt is over 200 mb large
21:55 Fixer Jordach: interesting concept
21:55 Fixer Jordach: impressed
21:57 Nathans21 You need a cronjob to delete that file every now and again.
21:57 Jordach Fixer, in tl;dr
21:57 Jordach innovation only occurs in non-free software, as hard as it is to say
21:57 * Nathans21 should set that up himself.
22:03 * benrob0329 slaps Jordach with an open source glove
22:03 Jordach benrob0329, working for money produces the best work
22:04 benrob0329 Yes, hired open source development
22:05 benrob0329 No one said it had to be $0
22:09 red-002 Jordach, doesn't work under wine
22:14 red-002 well now it kinda works with about 0.5 of a frame per second
22:17 Fixer Jordach: btw I can disconnect from the internet, I have tons of books/music/games/video, if someone strikes the internet: 1) Cataclysm DDA 2) Read that fucking Earth History books
22:21 Fixer Calinou: yeah, a lot of people played doom/quake/carmageddon/gta in 90tees including me, no problem, AND, watched porno, still not a maniac, hmmm, not ISIL member, strange, maybe violent games and porno does not make you evil bastard after all
22:24 Fixer Calinou: GTA III blow my mind when I played it, and war on streets + guns for all made it awesome
22:26 Fixer also, grandmothers with RPG are the best
22:27 Fixer when you got high speed & comfy rushing through streets between granade explosions some grandmother decides to literally suicide bomb me with RPG
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22:36 Fixer Jordach: "An audio driver installed in several HP laptops contains a keylogger-type feature that records every keystroke entered into the computer into a log file, according to a security researcher."
22:36 Fixer http://www.zdnet.com/article/keylo​gger-found-on-several-hp-laptops/
22:37 red-002 fun
22:37 benrob0329 Ohh, I have an hp laptop
22:37 benrob0329 Not running windows though
22:38 benrob0329 First thing I did was get that crap off of it
22:38 red-002 thats why drivers should run in user-mode if at all possible
22:38 benrob0329 Or be genaric
22:38 red-002 then you don't get an audio driver with keyboard access
22:39 benrob0329 You know, standards
22:39 red-002 or even better both
22:41 red-002 who was planning to make videos on freebsd?
22:41 garywhite Did anyone hear about the newest ransomware attack on Windows-based PCs
22:42 Hijiri yeah
22:42 Hijiri but I have to go so won't be here to talk about it
22:46 Fixer benrob0329: keylogger in audiodrivers, KARL, audiodrivers...
22:46 Fixer POSHP
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23:09 benrob0329 red-002: i was, ran into trouble with some stuff
23:09 benrob0329 Went for gentoo instead
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