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Time Nick Message
00:00 Fixer lots of nerzuls
00:00 nore yeah, I see at least 4
00:00 Shara 29 lines. I actually thought I had less.
00:00 Fixer i have no idea where I got 200 lines... of what?
00:00 rubenwardy updated including everyone
00:00 Fixer i had like 1 or 2 pr
00:01 nore Fixer: don't forget it includes doc...
00:01 Fixer 6 lines in total
00:01 Fixer my edits %)
00:01 Fixer for engine/game
00:01 red-001 oh nice it listed me as one person even through I changed my email
00:01 nore red-001: yeah, it's the name not the email that matters
00:01 Fixer "189 Binary file (standard input) matches"
00:01 Fixer wat?
00:02 red-001 github as having issues
00:02 red-001 s/as/was
00:02 rubenwardy Fixer: did a grep for you, there's a lot of "Translated using Weblate"
00:02 Fixer ahh... that
00:02 rubenwardy git ls-files | while read f; do git blame --line-porcelain $f | grep 'Fixer' -A 10; done
00:03 Fixer yes, i did some weblate
00:03 rubenwardy shows you the commit details for each line of git blame you're mentioned
00:03 Fixer not much, basic interface stuff, i didn't translated 800 config options %)
00:03 Fixer fuck that
00:03 Fixer all stuff needed for game is translated
00:03 Fixer advanced settings are not
00:03 Fixer maybe some time later
00:04 red-001 oh is the number of lines the number of lines added - number of lines removed?
00:04 rubenwardy red-001, it's the number of lines that are credited to a commit you made, according to git blame
00:04 rubenwardy ah, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot
00:04 Fixer did not translate*
00:05 rubenwardy it's not added - removed, as someone may have changed your lines since you
00:05 Fixer rubenwardy: vs nerzul
00:05 Fixer rubenwardy: and vs another nerzhul
00:05 Fixer or smth
00:05 Dumbeldor nerzhul <3
00:05 Dumbeldor :D
00:05 rubenwardy ah so, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot vs Ner'zhul vs nerzhul
00:06 Fixer wonder why celeron is second
00:06 Fixer he wrote shit ton of code after all
00:07 Fixer no way he is second
00:07 red-001 he is first on the github page
00:07 nore Fixer: number of lines *remaining*
00:07 red-001 oh
00:07 nore and est31 did the weblate commits IIRC
00:07 Fixer okay, anyway have fun and good night
00:08 rubenwardy weblate commits are attributed to the author, no?
00:08 Shara night Fixer
00:08 nore night
00:08 rubenwardy commiter is stored in a separate field
00:08 nore rubenwardy: maybe
00:08 rubenwardy author Fixer
00:08 rubenwardy committer est31
00:08 rubenwardy for example
00:08 rubenwardy night Fixer
00:08 nore but anyway, he did the SRP thing as well which is a lot of code he was the only one to modify
00:08 rubenwardy ah, true
00:10 nore rubenwardy: did you count the po files?
00:10 nore https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/ae02d1eb8f4222d5cd3f885352011e4e699e6a3f <-- commits like this...
00:12 rubenwardy git ls-files lists *everything* in the repo
00:12 sofar nore: all my commits are using my real name
00:12 rubenwardy I can run it again with just .cpp, .lua, and .h if you like
00:12 nore sofar: hmmm, I must have misread then
00:13 nore I thought I had seen some credited to sofar, but I probably had read too fast
00:17 rubenwardy Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua:  https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164
00:20 Shara Hmm, interesting
00:20 red-001 why?
00:21 Shara I jump quite a bit higher on that list in my overall placement, but I would have thought I was more focused on documentation related things than normal
00:21 Shara So it shows me I assumed wrong
00:22 rubenwardy updated to combine all of nerzhul together
00:24 red-001 https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf​1371c34ba84427164#file-author_line_source-txt-L116
00:24 red-001 is that some werid unicode or something?
00:24 rubenwardy no idea
00:25 Shara Looks like chinese name
00:29 benrob0329 Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux
01:03 rubenwardy realised I made a mistake in my grep, here is an updated version: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164
01:04 rubenwardy I didn't escape a dot, so some files that werent .h/.cpp/.lua were included
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01:15 Shara Hi behalebabo. Hi ShadowNinja
01:16 behalebabo hello
01:18 red-001 He's worth a dozen of you. Hush and let him finish.
01:18 red-001 ..
01:19 red-001 why does copy and paste never work as expected
01:20 ShadowNinja Hello Shara!
01:21 sofar hello Guest37346
01:21 * sofar lags :)
01:21 ShadowNinja Heh.
01:22 ShadowNinja I've been away from MT long enough that I'm getting rather out of the loop.
01:22 Shara You may well have missed a lot then
01:22 sofar ShadowNinja: the loop isn't a good place to be in ;)
01:23 ShadowNinja Mailman recently decided to fill up my server's disk with errors because some permissons weren't right, and a noticed that some things weren't working.
01:23 Shara Hah, sofar is right about that. :)
01:23 ShadowNinja So I fixed that, and figured I'd check IRC too.
01:24 ShadowNinja sofar: Sorry but I don't get it.  Movie/book reference?
01:24 benrob0329 Hi ShadowNinja
01:24 sofar naw, just a random comment
01:24 sofar but, things have been "wild"
01:26 benrob0329 A lot of controversy over the new sneak changes mainly
01:26 Shara And the rest
01:26 ShadowNinja sofar: Oh.
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03:15 Shara Why am I still awake?
03:17 benrob0329 Because sleep is for noobs
03:19 Shara benrob0329: possibly
03:19 Shara Was working on a mod... and something was wrong. And I did not want to sleep until I figured it out :)
03:24 * VanessaE peeks in
03:24 Shara Hi Vanessa
03:25 benrob0329 (Offtopic, by Jeija) https://youtu.be/yCLb2eItDyE
04:09 VanessaE so, what'd I miss? :)
04:17 paramat inactivity :]
04:17 VanessaE heh
05:23 * benrob0329 finally can use Glowing Bear to access Weechat, now that /me has added a security exception
05:33 TommyTreasure benrob0329, were you the one that mentioned to me about removing the title bar from my vids?
05:33 benrob0329 Not sure
05:33 benrob0329 but its a good idea none the less
05:34 TommyTreasure any hints on how?  other than cropping the vid...
05:34 TommyTreasure pm is fine
05:39 benrob0329 Use a window based screen recording setup
05:39 benrob0329 your SR software should allow you to select a window
05:40 TommyTreasure since i'm using a simulated 3 cam shoot, i've been using OBS
05:40 TommyTreasure each capture is set up as a separate scene
05:41 TommyTreasure NathanS had mentioned a cinnamon plugin, but not running cinnamon here
05:42 sofar my OBS doesn't record title bar
05:42 sofar but, linux
05:42 sofar under windows I don't know if it's different
05:42 TommyTreasure same here
05:42 sofar may also be capture method
05:42 benrob0329 you can crop it in obs
05:42 TommyTreasure mate
05:42 benrob0329 or selext window instead of screen
05:42 TommyTreasure i'll have to experiment more.  thanks!
05:43 benrob0329 or shift f11 to full screen (borderless window) minetest
05:43 sofar I use "window capture - X composite"
05:43 sofar no need to tune
05:43 TommyTreasure hmmmmm, that's a thought too.  btw, didn't know about shift F11
05:43 benrob0329 or, its supposed to do that
05:44 benrob0329 it doesnt want to work for me :-/
05:44 sofar xfce4 here
05:44 benrob0329 gnome 3 here
05:44 TommyTreasure shift f11 doesn't do a thing on mine.
05:44 benrob0329 Kde 5 on my desktop
05:45 TommyTreasure my mate machine is the only box with enough cpu/gpu for vid work
05:45 benrob0329 granted, kde 5 has its own "fake" fullscreen you can set
05:46 benrob0329 (Offtopic) anyone know of a way to read wii disks on linux?
05:46 sofar I usually capture 1080p but my monitor is 2560x1600, so I have plenty pixels on the side where I can monitor terminal or put OBS itself also visible to me
05:46 sofar so I actually play "windowed"
05:46 sofar 1080p is like 2/3rd of my monitor, and like only half the surface
05:47 TommyTreasure i've been using my 46" tv for my 1080 monitor.  have 2 - 23" i still need to fix
05:49 TommyTreasure 1080 is the max on all 3 of them
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06:49 Krock o/
06:50 benrob0329 \o
06:51 sniper570 \o/
06:52 benrob0329 Before I go to bed
06:52 benrob0329 1491720735
06:52 benrob0329 Is the current unix time
06:52 benrob0329 Well, was
06:53 benrob0329 Anyways, gnight
07:21 celeron55 >Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua (https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164)
07:21 celeron55 that looks very much like what i thought it would
07:32 Krock nice stats.
07:32 * Krock adds some libraries to bump his line count upwards
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07:36 sofar I'm surprised I'm above 500loc even
07:36 VanessaE I'm surprised I still show up in such a list :)
07:41 * sofar & bed
07:41 Krock false
07:42 Krock Error: bed not found.
07:45 VanessaE no sleep for you
08:20 Krock !tell
08:20 ShadowBot Krock: tell <nick1[,nick2[,...]]> <text>
08:23 * cheapie looks at that contributor list
08:23 cheapie "1 author cheapie" :P
08:24 Krock !tell Fixer from what I've seen in my damage evading tests: it's only possible to envade if the player is instantly moved away from the X/Z axis to keep the player on the node
08:24 ShadowBot Krock: O.K.
08:25 Krock cheapie, one _line_!
08:26 cheapie Krock: It's src/rollback.cpp:253, '"CREATE INDEX IF NOT EXISTS `actionIndex` ON `action`(`x`,`y`,`z`,`timestamp`,`actor`);\n",'
08:26 Krock that one is from you?
08:26 cheapie Yes.
08:26 Krock xD
08:26 Krock at least something :)
08:26 cheapie This commit: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/380e1504eb2445fd43c03c87d23b8e41e85a7871
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09:18 tenplus1 hi folks
09:20 Krock hi tenplus1
09:20 tenplus1 hi Krock, how's you ?
09:21 Krock I'm fine, thanks :)
09:21 Krock how about you?
09:21 tenplus1 watching Samurai Jack to take my mind of mobs api :P
09:22 tenplus1 will increase stepsize to 1.1 so that mobs can walk uphill and follow players better... but... they can escape over fences easier now
09:44 Shara Morning all
09:45 tenplus1 hi shara
09:47 tenplus1 bbl
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10:41 Calinou <benrob0329> Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux
10:41 Calinou benrob0329: nice
10:42 Calinou there's Dirt Rally already, but I don't have it
10:42 Calinou I have Dirt 3 and Dirt Showdown though
10:55 celeron55 i tried dirt showdown and it was unplayable
10:55 celeron55 there was like multiple seconds of input lag
10:56 celeron55 the windows version probably works better in wine...
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12:01 Jordach >trash rally game that isn't even proper WRC
12:02 Jordach benrob0329, Calinou ^^
12:02 Jordach re: [01:29:47] <benrob0329> Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux
12:03 * benrob0329 pops in
12:03 * benrob0329 pops out
12:03 Jordach lmao
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12:17 Calinou celeron55: yes, it was an EoN port
12:17 Calinou which sucks, by definition
12:18 Jordach Calinou, wrong person :^)
12:18 Calinou no, celeron55 talked about Dirt Showdown Linux port
12:18 Jordach oh
12:18 sfan5 wut
12:18 sfan5 dirt showdown works perfectly here
12:19 Jordach it's almost playable on my APU A4 laptop with compositor
12:19 Jordach running windows makes it entirely playable
12:26 * benrob0329 throws window at Jordach
12:26 Jordach :^)
12:36 * Jordach sneezes
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13:12 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/xt_N842KZdc
13:12 * benrob0329 wants this kind of stuff in carts
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13:17 Fixer hi
13:17 Fixer Calinou: what is EoN?
13:17 Calinou it's bullshit tech to port games to Linux lazily
13:17 Fixer Calinou: and why it sucks? it is based on wine?
13:18 Calinou translation layers, etc
13:18 Calinou it's not Wine, exactly
13:18 Fixer ah
13:18 Calinou performs like crap, between other issues
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13:18 sfan5 Calinou: [[citation needed]]
13:18 Calinou well, it's widely critisized
13:18 Calinou I've never tried it
13:19 benrob0329 Is it that hard to use OGL in your game engine?
13:19 sfan5 if you have developed solely for windows for years, yes
13:20 Calinou some people think using Direct3D is still better in this day and age
13:20 benrob0329 Then don't do a half assed port
13:20 Calinou so, for some people, yes :/
13:20 benrob0329 Either go full Windows only, or go full cross platform
13:21 Calinou I wish AAA games used cross-platform tech for real, except they're not
13:21 benrob0329 don't go half assed, because then everyone's mad.
13:21 Calinou even people who have the balls to use OpenGL (id Software) refuse to make Linux ports for some reason
13:21 Calinou even though it'd be really cheap for them
13:21 Calinou (they already use full OpenGL or Vulkan…)
13:21 Calinou ok, it runs well in Wine, but then we have to depend on Steam Wine and such
13:21 benrob0329 Or how game go from Mac -> Windows before linux?
13:22 Calinou uh?
13:22 Fixer Calinou: id software does not port to linux? too bad
13:22 Calinou oh, I also really despise t hat
13:22 Calinou Fixer: yes, since RAGE
13:22 Fixer kek
13:22 Calinou Doom 3 BFG had to do with an unofficial Linux port, too, I believe
13:22 Calinou (but at least it was possible, thanks to source code)
13:22 Calinou benrob0329: yes, for example, the old GTAs are available on macOS, but not Linux, go figure why
13:23 benrob0329 Funnily enough, linux software often goes to Mac first
13:23 Calinou even though macOS is a terrible gaming platform
13:23 benrob0329 But its a *nix
13:30 CWz It's based on freebsd or openbsd if recall
13:30 sfan5 neither
13:30 sfan5 based on Darwin
13:31 benrob0329 Darwin has bits of FBSD in it
13:32 sfan5 not really
13:32 sfan5 darwin has code from bsd, freebsd has code from bsd too
13:33 Fixer the whole unix tree thing is very complicated
13:34 benrob0329 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Darwin_(operating_system)
13:34 benrob0329 Huh, its mostly OS
13:34 Fixer https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/​commons/thumb/7/77/Unix_history-simple.​svg/1200px-Unix_history-simple.svg.png
13:35 benrob0329 Oh gosh
13:36 Fixer Unix 9/10 was released recently
13:36 Fixer research one
13:36 Fixer it is insane to think it goes back to 1969
13:39 Fixer this is pretty good video about "Time Sharing" O/S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anxxe8SdX78
13:39 Fixer before unix
13:48 * CWz hands Fixer a windows 95 disk
13:48 Fixer CWz: no need
13:49 Fixer i think i have w95 on disk anyway
13:49 CWz 3.11?
13:49 Fixer i have it
13:49 Fixer easy to find it
13:52 Fixer CWz: https://i.imgur.com/Cp7Ml5r.png
13:52 CWz cool
13:52 CWz DOSbox?
13:52 Fixer yes
13:53 Fixer used it on 16 or 33mhz machine few times
13:53 Fixer it was mainly dos gaming anyway
13:53 Fixer but it had win3.11 too
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13:55 Fixer lets play minetest
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14:27 Calinou https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/27382​7329766326284/300588629032697856/windows.jpg
14:27 Calinou the truth behind Windows versions
14:27 Fixer Calinou: i knew it
14:27 Fixer Calinou: win2000 classic theme/ui is the best
14:28 Calinou yeah, Windows XP themes were plain horrible
14:28 Fixer then it all degenerated in aero/metro/flat puke
14:28 Fixer poooop
14:28 Fixer total poop
14:28 red-001 I see OC is still trying to get the trademark
14:28 Fixer also Office 2003
14:28 Fixer same blue poop
14:28 Fixer red-001: minetest.org
14:29 red-001 I just read that
14:29 Fixer win7 is the last one with classic theme without hacks
14:29 Calinou OldCoder is officially beyond crazy…
14:29 red-001 Calinou ?
14:29 Calinou what is trying to get a trademark on?
14:30 red-001 well he is hyprocritcal
14:30 * red-001 offically can't spell hypocritical correctly
14:31 red-001 Calinou, the name minetest from what I can see
14:33 Fixer Calinou: in 2001 i kinda expected consistent interfaces, and it was, mostly (apart from DOS era programs in DOS prompt), win3 era programs were rare, but now it is giant clusterfuck, everything is different, entire f-ing windows is different each release, each f-ing browser or antivirus or office or other BS wants to be cool and hip and use own interface just because fuck everybody
14:36 Calinou red-001: aka. betraying the whole community
14:36 red-001 yes
14:37 red-001 I tried getting some sort of explaining for it yesterday but that just ended in being insulted and then banned
14:38 red-001 s/explaining/explanation
14:38 nore I only got insults for my questions as well
14:38 nore maybe someone who he isn't completely crazy at should ask
14:39 nore I can't even reason with him, he is just mad at me
14:40 Krock I also talked to him a few days. Perhaps I'm the only who wasn't insulted o.0
14:40 Fixer i think sneak problem is the reason
14:40 Krock or rather.. he talked with me
14:42 Fixer cheapie: not sure about you, but some of nickname colours of chat6 are insanely hard to read on some backgrounds
14:43 Krock black text on black background :3
14:43 Fixer more like green on green
14:43 Fixer or violet on anything
14:43 Fixer wine-like colour
14:44 Fixer so it needs a solid black background behind to see it clearly
14:45 Fixer endroit o.O
14:53 Fixer current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQ3GEncwh8
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15:13 paramat "we control about 40 worlds" OC talks to the dead and has a galactic empire :]
15:16 red-001 talks to the dead you say
15:31 * Fixer .oO(gonna make a move)
15:31 Fixer it is amazing how foliage and stuff can change the impression
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15:45 Krock Fixer, you checked the damage evading multiple times in a row, few seconds apart, right?
15:45 Fixer Krock: yep
15:45 Krock ah, there we have it why you were able to evade
15:46 Krock there's a 3.0s cooldown after being teleported
15:46 Krock in that time no damage is taken from the player
15:46 Fixer Krock: let me try again
15:47 Krock I believe you won't be able to evade when waiting for some seconds first
15:47 Fixer testing
15:48 Fixer Krock: LOL, yes i can't evade if wait >3 sec
15:48 Fixer Krock: good catch, trololo
15:48 Krock there we go.
15:48 paramat awesome
15:49 Krock I've searched for over a hour now this problem
15:49 Krock and it's a stupid cooldown timer
15:49 Fixer yes
15:49 Krock collision detection is a-ok
15:49 paramat what about https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/issues/329#issuecomment-289311843 though?
15:49 Krock fixed in my pull, could be adapted to original code aswell
15:50 paramat good
15:51 paramat could you link me to the fix for that so i can apply it to current new move code?
15:52 Krock https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest/bl​ob/cdf897b/src/localplayer.cpp#L277-L284
15:53 Krock ^ code not complete there, needs additional collision_info != NULL check
15:54 Fixer Krock: but why this 3 second is needed?
15:55 Krock // Ignore damage for a few seconds, so that the player doesn't
15:55 Krock // get damage from falling on ground
15:55 Krock m_ignore_damage_timer = 3.0;
15:55 Krock and this in the function where the player's position is set
15:55 Krock I assume this comes from in-game, where admins teleport players that dno't fly
15:55 Fixer for example parkour maps with saving position, this 3 seconds can be used to avoid damage in parkour
15:56 Fixer by doing /home and jumping with sneak
15:56 Krock I'm already writing a pull for this, to shorten down to perhaps 2 seconds
15:56 Fixer sneak is not needed btw %)
15:56 Fixer within 3 seconds any jump is non damage
15:57 Fixer interesting
15:57 Krock the old sneak code just opened another possiblity to evade
15:58 Krock Fixer, could you please also add this code reference to your comment on github? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/maste​r/src/network/clientpackethandler.cpp#L585-L587
15:58 Fixer yes
15:58 paramat thanks
15:59 Krock easier for developers and perhaps some players to understand why
15:59 Fixer i feel not good for this timer
15:59 Fixer huge hack
15:59 Fixer but maybe there are reasons
16:00 paramat i can't see a good reason for the cooldown (yet)
16:00 paramat if you fall, too bad
16:00 Fixer maybe because of teleport speed + lag?
16:02 paramat player would be suspended in ignore not moving
16:02 Fixer m_ignore_damage_timer is used in other parts of minetest too
16:02 Fixer client.cpp
16:02 Fixer for example
16:03 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?utf8​=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=m_ignore_damage_timer&amp;type=
16:03 Krock yes, the damage handling, that is.
16:04 Krock don't care about it now. removing the variable
16:05 paramat i would remove it, or if there's a good reason make it an option
16:05 Fixer maybe ask celeron
16:05 Fixer maybe he remembers
16:05 Fixer celeron55:
16:08 Fixer reducing it one thing but completely removing can be dangerous without full understanding
17:00 Krock Fixer, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5552
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17:16 Fixer Krock: yeah, i see it
17:17 VanessaE zzz *snort*  wha?  *rubs eyes*  good morning all (or something)
17:20 Krock moin, VanessaE
17:21 VanessaE so what's today's drama? :)
17:22 Krock I found the anti-damage suit that lasts for three seconds after respawn
17:23 VanessaE heh
17:23 Krock which also make me scratching on the head for many times
17:23 Krock (searching a bug where none is)
17:24 Krock and now it's apparently a feature that's going to removed by HAAAAAANDS
17:24 VanessaE I feel bad for stu, seems like every time he releases an Armor mod update, something breaks :)
17:24 Fixer Krock: maybe it has to do with teleporting/respawn or smth, comment itself says about falling... but who knows
17:25 Krock Fixer, if nobody knows why it was originally added, it's going to removed as there's apparently no big use (apart from cheating) from it
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17:39 tenplus1 hi folks
17:44 Shara Hi everyone
17:44 tenplus1 hi Shara
17:44 Shara Hi tenplus1 :)
17:47 CWz Ello
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17:48 tenplus1 hi CWz, hi octacian
17:48 tenplus1 lol
17:49 Twentyplus10 Ello
17:50 VanessaE hi
17:50 tenplus1 hi Vanessa
17:51 benrob0329 http://m.imgur.com/81NLVz6
17:51 tenplus1 lolol, hi ben
17:51 benrob0329 Hello
18:03 Jordach *eurobeat plays in the distance*
18:04 tenplus1 *unf unf unf unf unf unf*
18:07 * CWz places a giant pie on the table
18:07 * CWz wonders off
18:08 tenplus1 :P
18:08 benrob0329 What flavor?
18:10 tenplus1 7-up
18:12 red-001 did https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5418 happen to anyone here?
18:12 tenplus1 I do get those warning messages but thankfully it never crashes anything
18:13 benrob0329 tenplus1: you missed the opportunity...
18:13 benrob0329 PIE FLAVOR!
18:14 tenplus1 heh :)
18:14 Fixer POOOP
18:14 benrob0329 Thays just gross
18:15 tenplus1 my pie (cake) mod has meat flavour :D
18:15 benrob0329 Kill it...
18:15 benrob0329 WITH FIRE
18:16 tenplus1 meatloaf pah!
18:16 * Jordach plays 80s rock
18:16 benrob0329 *hurls*
18:16 Fixer poop flavour
18:16 benrob0329 Again, thats just gross
18:17 tenplus1 ehehehehe, we already have normal cake, banoffee pie, strawberry cheesecake, red velvet, coffee, and meat
18:17 benrob0329 You should add..
18:17 benrob0329 PUE FLAVOR
18:17 tenplus1 pue ?
18:18 benrob0329 Dirp, my typing skills are not the best on a phone
18:18 Jordach and i thought mine was bad
18:18 benrob0329 Ahhhem..
18:18 Jordach jeeez
18:18 benrob0329 PIE FLAVOR!
18:21 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2916
18:21 Fixer interesting
18:22 benrob0329 tenplus1: do you have a link to your pie mod?
18:22 benrob0329 I have a pr to make...
18:22 tenplus1 github.com/tenplus1/pie
18:22 celeron55 the point of the fall damage cooldown is that the player doesn't get hurt when it spawns into the world or teleports somewhere
18:22 tenplus1 hi celeron
18:23 Fixer Krock: ^^
18:23 red-001 ^^^
18:23 Fixer i guess it can be safely removed then
18:23 * Jordach has that problem in Solar Plains
18:23 Fixer teleporter is responsible for any damages he does to himself
18:23 Krock yes, I already assumed something like that. Doesn't seem to be too important
18:24 Fixer please nuke it
18:24 Fixer time to suffer gravity
18:24 * Shara seems to always spawn underground...
18:24 Fixer i never had problems with spawning in mid air, only problem is damn spawn in tree
18:25 Jordach Fixer, i have an experimental safe spawn
18:25 Shara It's always been underground and needing to grant myself noclip to get out
18:25 Krock we already have a pretty good initial spawn algorithm and admin-failure can't be prevented at all
18:25 Jordach Krock, Solar Plains spawns users from -20k-> +20k
18:26 Krock <.<
18:26 Jordach trying to mine near spawn on a public server is something for mentally inane people
18:27 Fixer Jordach: mamber Kray spawn with deep chasm below?
18:27 Jordach yeeeeeep
18:28 Fixer ^______________^
18:30 Jordach >tenplus1's food mod
18:30 Jordach > http://i.imgur.com/soTe69k.jpg
18:30 tenplus1 ehehehe
18:35 Fixer tenplus1: remind me, are those mobs br--dable?
18:36 tenplus1 yeah, certain animals and npc's can be bred
18:36 Fixer tenplus1: remind me, what is useful apart from cow and sheep?
18:37 Krock Jordach, seen the dump on imgur too. Do you also fight against the sun all day?
18:37 tenplus1 warthog gives pork :)))
18:37 tenplus1 chickens give eggs
18:37 tenplus1 will add feathers soon when I have more recipes for use
18:41 benrob0329 Wee need bows in mtg
18:41 tenplus1 github.com/tenplus1/bows
18:41 benrob0329 Or some kind of distance weapon
18:41 Jordach bow ties, hair bows, shortbows, longbows or recurve bows
18:41 benrob0329 isn't it obvious?
18:42 benrob0329 Bow Ties, I mean comr on
18:42 * Shara was going to do that
18:42 benrob0329 Because...
18:42 Shara Then I realised it would just be silly on my server :D
18:42 benrob0329 Biw Ties are Cool
18:43 benrob0329 And I can't type one handed
18:43 Shara I wanted to have accesories that could be worn instea dof armour to give some bonuses at the price of no defence
18:43 * Shara can't type two handed either
18:51 TommyTreasure try typing with a pencil duck taped to the cast on your left hand!  lol
18:51 TommyTreasure hello people
18:51 benrob0329 Hi
18:51 tenplus1 hi tommy
18:53 Jordach Minetest: http://i.imgur.com/bi03wwa.jpg
18:53 tenplus1 hah
18:53 benrob0329 hmm
18:54 benrob0329 id make a better game, called Eternity
18:54 * Jordach irl http://i.imgur.com/9vqkiQb.jpg
18:56 tenplus1 seen som any dank memes with that one lately
18:56 Krock Jordach, upscale your IRL image with waifu2x :P
18:57 benrob0329 #minetest-memes, for all your meme needs
18:57 Jordach benrob0329, http://i.imgur.com/pOqv9M7.jpg
18:58 benrob0329 8-BG?
18:58 tenplus1 https://pics.onsizzle.com/2438828.png
18:59 benrob0329 Kill it, kill it with acid
18:59 benrob0329 tenplus1: why does your pie mod only have cake?
18:59 tenplus1 https://68.media.tumblr.com/62152b87f72be145afd8a6​727ad08a27/tumblr_inline_ocqdbf1S261qgp297_540.jpg
18:59 benrob0329 is the Pie a lie?
18:59 tenplus1 pie = cake
18:59 benrob0329 it is not the same!
19:02 Krock Jordach, you can clean your motherboard this way. No problem, as long no battery is mounted anymore. Just make sure it's somewhat dry when testing
19:06 red-001 you can clean it that way for sure
19:06 red-001 the thing that isn't is that it will contiune to work afterwards
19:06 benrob0329 tenplus1: if the pie is a lie, then pie flavor doeth not exsist!
19:07 tenplus1 the pie is no lie :D
19:07 Krock only the cake is a lie. pie is fine.
19:07 tenplus1 was gonna add cupcakes also for each pie flavour but I only have permission to use textures on server
19:08 benrob0329 but the pie is really cake, that is not the way!
19:08 benrob0329 pie must be pie!
19:08 tenplus1 it was made to replace the original pie mod with had 1 pie.. I added API to add new pie's and made it work with hudbars, hbhunger and stamina mod...
19:08 tenplus1 the name stuck
19:09 benrob0329 Pie != Cake
19:09 benrob0329 pie:pie == cake, and my life is a lie
19:09 tenplus1 eheheheh, *noms cake*
19:10 * benrob0329 noms on a c book
19:10 Krock https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbP-oMWEAAT8AH.jpg
19:10 benrob0329 specifically, the C book
19:11 tenplus1 :P
19:11 benrob0329 Krock: but IE died a few years ago..oh wait it doesnt know that yet
19:12 tenplus1 http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/i​mages/fitted/620x/this-windows-10-jok​e-just-won-the-internet-491641-8.jpg
19:12 Krock died officially but it still walks and trolls in its grave
19:12 tenplus1 brb
19:13 benrob0329 IE is the walking dead, but in 2012
19:14 Krock related: (for those here who haven't seen it yet) https://img-9gag-fun.9cache​.com/photo/aBW6rYZ_700b.jpg
19:15 rubenwardy loooool
19:16 Fixer lol
19:18 benrob0329 lol
19:19 tenplus1 https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qim​g-5939690cf5ba8aab26f174a0499b4c27-c
19:20 tenplus1 last one: http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/20​15/03/internet-explorer-windows-comics1.jpg
19:21 paramat Shara is it mgvalleys that spawns you underground?
19:22 red-001 could someone explain to me how chrome always uses up all my memory no matter how much I have?
19:22 tenplus1 you can disable cache to speed things up and save memory
19:22 benrob0329 because FireFox is the only way
19:22 red-001 it used up all my memory when I used it on a pc with 4gb and it does the same thing on a pc with 8gb
19:22 * tenplus1 has 2gb and runs with chromium no probs
19:23 Fixer like yesterday I run firefox with 1tab open on 760mb PC, full mem, laaaaaaaaaaag
19:23 red-001 yeah it ran well on both systems
19:23 benrob0329 is it bad that my laptop is running at 41c ?
19:23 Jordach no
19:23 red-001 but it's annoying when you use your pc for things other then chrome
19:23 Krock that's normal
19:23 Fixer benrob0329: not at all
19:23 Jordach if its ~75c
19:23 Jordach r u n
19:24 red-001 it seems to try to take up all the memory it can like some sort of werid malware
19:24 benrob0329 it idles around 35c , but its kind of in the sun atm
19:24 tenplus1 on linux edit: /etc/google-chrome/default and change chromium_flags to read:   CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--disk-cache-dir=/dev/null --disk-cache-size=1 --media-cache-size=1"
19:24 Krock tenplus1, the sign about the laptops looks like a mean warning
19:24 tenplus1 hehe yeah
19:25 benrob0329 75c though? it wouldnt still be in my lap lol
19:25 benrob0329 id be tossin it in the freezer
19:25 Jordach frieza*
19:25 Jordach huehuebrbrbr
19:26 Fixer frizar
19:26 benrob0329 The Freezer 3000
19:29 Shara paramat: seems to be anything and everything single player that does it
19:29 Shara I can test more at some point
19:29 tenplus1 the 0,0,0 spawn thing shara ?
19:29 Shara Nope, it's a singleplayer thing
19:30 tenplus1 ?
19:30 Shara It's not a big deal, especially if no one else has been having it
19:30 Shara tenplus1: I always spawn underground when starting new on singleplayer
19:30 tenplus1 latest dev ?
19:31 Shara No. It's been consistent for a while though.
19:31 Shara I'd say it's probably my settings, but had it on multiple clients
19:31 tenplus1 weird...  havent had that issue... windows or linux ?
19:31 Shara windows
19:32 tenplus1 is it always at same position ??
19:32 Shara Don't know. It's not something I've really looked at probably. Was just an observation
19:32 Shara properly*
19:32 tenplus1 check .conf for static_spawnpoint
19:33 Shara As I said, multiple clients, so can't be that
19:33 Shara But in the middle of ten things at once right now, so nto a good time to dig :P
19:33 tenplus1 and different mapgens ?
19:33 Shara not*
19:37 Shara I really can't say without spending some time testing it
19:37 tenplus1 testing now on linux :P
19:38 Krock offtopic: a ship shipping ships: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C87u7MfWAAQ5NHv.jpg
19:38 tenplus1 lol Krock
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19:41 paramat thanks, if it happens again check F5 for co-ords 0,0,0
19:42 tenplus1 cant reproduce, and it's very weird that it's a windows only thing
19:42 VanessaE Krock: "you dawg, I heard you like to ship things, so I put a shipping ship under your shipping ships so you can ship while you ship." :)
19:43 VanessaE yo*
19:43 Krock yeah, in about that.
19:43 Shara paramat: it definitely was not 0,0,0 bug
19:44 Shara but it's really not a thing I'm worried about for now. I'll do a proper test sometime.
19:44 paramat no prob
19:45 Shara :)
19:48 * Sokomine tries to sort all that ship shipping out and fails
19:49 Fixer i have problems with spawning in trees, v7
19:50 Sokomine there's at least one subgame that has leaves where you can walk and climb through. that's very convenient. i sometimes miss it in normal mtg. spawning in trees would be less problematic then
19:58 benrob0329 ive gotten my laptop down to 38c, but the top still feels like its a flippen solar pannel
20:01 Jordach use a macbook :^)
20:01 benrob0329 or a laptop that doesnt have a black surface
20:01 * tenplus1 installs Xubuntu on macbook
20:01 TommyTreasure decrease display brightness and contrast
20:02 TommyTreasure ?
20:02 * benrob0329 would install Antergos on a macbook
20:02 benrob0329 nah, its the fact that the sun is shining on it
20:02 benrob0329 and im co pilot in a car so i cant move
20:02 tenplus1 why not buy an actual solar panel for lid :) free power
20:02 * TommyTreasure searches for sunglasses for lappy's
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20:03 benrob0329 hi octacian
20:03 benrob0329 hi again octacian
20:03 octacian hey benrob0329
20:03 tenplus1 http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/data/ka​nye-webst/kanye-laptop-glasses.jpg
20:03 TommyTreasure lol
20:04 benrob0329 what are those?
20:04 benrob0329 aside from butt ugly
20:04 Jordach shutter shades
20:04 benrob0329 thats the worst idea ive ever heard
20:05 TommyTreasure bad joke in this case:  when you're cool, the sun always shines
20:05 Jordach welcome to the ghetto
20:06 atorian37 i need urgent help. a player set my world on fire, i already future_banned him and rollback the interacts of him. is there a way to restore landscape to the time before he enters the game?
20:06 Krock you can regenerate the terrain if there are no buildings around
20:06 benrob0329 \/deleteblocks
20:06 benrob0329 /deleteblocks
20:06 Fixer i've seen everything https://i.imgur.com/05xNJdR.png
20:07 atorian37 ok what is the preferred way if there are no buildings (but its a huge area of forest)
20:07 benrob0329 *facedesk*
20:07 tenplus1 o.O
20:07 benrob0329 just //deleteblocks here 10
20:07 benrob0329 do that a few times
20:07 benrob0329 or up it to 20
20:07 atorian37 ok, what means the number?
20:08 Krock the range
20:08 atorian37 thanks!
20:08 tenplus1 //deleteblocks 10     regenerates the area of map you are standing in up to 10 blocks in all directions
20:08 Krock prefer lower values to not destroy buildings nearby
20:08 Krock where BLOCKS = 16^3 NODES
20:08 paramat it will regen the forest too
20:08 atorian37 ok I give it a try with 5 or os
20:09 atorian37 so
20:09 paramat although, it may regen the whole mapchunk of 80^3 nodes
20:09 paramat probably will in fact
20:09 Krock (for default chunksize 5)
20:10 paramat yeah
20:10 Krock since that param can be changed easily
20:10 Sokomine atorian37: might be best to create a backup of your world first before starting to restore. and don't forget to remove fire
20:10 paramat the range may be in nodes
20:10 atorian37 that gives "worldedit no region sleected" :(
20:10 TommyTreasure you may also want to consider adding 'disable_fire = true'  to your minetest.conf
20:11 atorian37 thats a good idea too thanks
20:11 paramat / is worldedit command, / is MT builtin command
20:11 paramat sorry, // is worldedit
20:11 Sokomine that's essential for servers, yes. the only server that might get away with fire beeing active is the adventuretest testserver. and even there there's a huge forrest on fire that has been like this for month
20:12 atorian37 ok that worked...
20:12 benrob0329 oh, hi Sokomine
20:12 Sokomine hi benrob0329
20:13 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/​master/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua#L471
20:15 TommyTreasure i set my own world on fire.  found the fix quickly!
20:16 Shara It feels like fire should be disabled by default for servers really (if it isn't)
20:16 tenplus1 +1  you never know who will start a huge forest fire
20:17 Shara I've run into so many new server owners who are upset/in a panic about things being burned down, and they simply didn't know the option was a thing
20:19 red-001 +1 to fire being off by default on servers
20:19 Shara paramat / other devs: any thoughts about that?
20:20 * Sokomine nods heavily to Shara
20:20 Sokomine it's something most server owners have to learn over time. fire on servers really isn't a good idea. it might be ok in singleplayer hardcore survival...
20:21 tenplus1 also disabled lava buckets on xanadu
20:21 Sokomine they're another common problem, yes
20:21 Shara I priv lock lava buckets
20:21 Sokomine but fire on servers...that always comes up. disabling it by default might be a very good idea
20:27 benrob0329 or making it less cpu intensive
20:28 * benrob0329 mentions having an "burning" state for nodes, rather than a seperate mod...
20:31 Sokomine cpu intensive is one factor against fire on servers. unwanted destruction usually weights even more heavy. on the few servers where fire might be wanted, it ccan still be enabled if it's off by default. at least those server owners enabling it will then koow what they're doing
20:32 atorian37 I disabled it from now on, thank you all for the immediate help, I did not know the /deletblocks command. I guess buildings has to be repaired "by hand"?
20:32 tenplus1 nite folks
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20:32 Shara atorian37: it can also be good to enable rollback, though some people may disagree with me.
20:32 Sokomine perhaps rollback might help
20:33 atorian37 rollback is enabled allready but does tis help with fire damage?
20:34 benrob0329 he does have a point
20:34 Shara never had fire damage to test
20:34 Shara Hmm
20:34 benrob0329 rollback should be able to revert fire damage
20:35 Shara rollback reverts actions of a named player right? So depends if the destruction is counted as an action of the player or something else?
20:35 atorian37 do you know the syntax? usually I use /rollback <player> <time in seconds>
20:35 benrob0329 perhaps a custom "player" called fire or something should be added
20:35 Shara benrob0329: problem then is 'which fire?'
20:35 atorian37 omg
20:35 benrob0329 probably all fire damage
20:36 benrob0329 just, everything in general would be reverted
20:36 benrob0329 that was effected by fire
20:36 Shara But assuming fire is enabled intentionally, some people use it for land clearing.
20:36 Shara so you'd revert actions people wanted as well. Could get messy
20:36 paramat maybe, worth considering, like tnt is then
20:38 atorian37 anyway, the fire was not naturally born, it was sabotage, so pay attention to angrybuilder666 IP: 77.251.61.140 if you like
20:38 Shara paramat: yes, that's what I'm thinking
20:42 paramat our new biomes have massive dense forests so fire is much more dangerous now, worse than tnt
20:42 paramat could someone open an issue to remind us?
20:43 Shara I can probably look at how to change it, if you want
20:44 paramat up to you, it's simple
20:44 Shara probably the right level for me then :P
20:44 paramat also fire puts a heavy lua load on a server
20:44 paramat heh
20:44 Shara :)
20:44 Sokomine exactly. fire on a server is very very rarely a good idea
20:44 Shara I'll see if I can work it out :)
20:45 Shara If I fail, expect an issue to show up
20:45 * Sokomine hands Shara a fire extinguisher :-)
20:46 Shara Perfect way to start :D
20:46 * benrob0329 grabs a fire engine
20:47 paramat fire already has a setting, just needs to be linked to 'singleplayer' like tnt is
20:48 Shara Yup, just looking at tnt now
20:48 paramat anyway i will support a PR that does this
20:49 TommyTreasure +1
20:49 Shara Seems a fair few people here are in favour at least
20:49 Shara Please leave it to me to try, if you don't mind. AFK for a bit, but pretty sure I can do this one.
21:03 paramat sure, less work for others
21:38 Calinou https://lut.im/Qmyxb6DfVX/1mXIrD11SR9WQJQg.png
21:39 Calinou finally got productive today, made a Doom map
21:39 Calinou 10/10 would do it again
21:41 benrob0329 someone should make doom for MT
21:41 Calinou do eet
21:41 * Jordach hears Mick Gordon in the distance
21:42 Calinou SLADE is pretty dope for a native app, actually :P
21:42 Calinou has fancy animations, 3D view, etc
21:49 Fixer fucking roleplay bullshit again
21:53 Fixer finally they even kicked that * *
22:00 Jordach FeelsGoodMan
22:06 Fixer stupid bullshit again about hacking each other
22:06 Fixer facepalm.png
22:07 benrob0329 wait..what
22:07 benrob0329 that doesnt even..you know what i give up
22:08 benrob0329 http://imgur.com/a/cWsiC
22:10 Fixer they are too stupid to discover a locked chest :(
22:10 benrob0329 its called being a 7 year old with too much internet access
22:14 benrob0329 You know what i think?
22:14 benrob0329 Computers == Techy Kid
22:14 benrob0329 Phones == Roleplayer
22:14 VanessaE heh
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22:25 Fixer the problem is even 3 yr olds have phones, that ends up badly for the internets
22:25 Calinou benrob0329: me making my map: http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/doom-g​uy-nodding-kid-computer-thumbs-up-1407541825R.gif
22:26 Fixer Calinou: now do duke nukem
22:27 Fixer awesome game
22:27 Fixer i have duke nukem with 1 gb of addons
22:28 Fixer already played some of them, huge win
22:28 Calinou Fixer: meh
22:30 Fixer like "duke hard"
22:30 Fixer was epic win
22:31 Fixer game is like 30 years old yet it looks so damn good
22:31 Fixer or 20 years old
22:33 Calinou it's 21 years old now
22:41 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CR90nahNtc
22:47 Sokomine perhaps the phone users do rpg because building is too tricky with their clients. although i'm always astonished that people manage to write on their phones...it's very tricky for me. nothing like a keyboard....
22:49 rubenwardy I#m a pretty good touch typer, just not on a phone
22:49 rubenwardy O d0jt make misatakes mich
22:49 Shara :D
22:50 Shara Sokomine: same, but I have one player who only ever uses a phone, and he's an amazing builder.
22:50 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGkroXu8KdA amount of action...
22:50 Shara He was working on a whole harbour area with several large and quite detailed ships last time I looked
22:50 rubenwardy Anyone know how to catch an error in Haskell? I want to  do      if returns_error (f x) then a else f x
22:51 rubenwardy akin to try { return f(x); } catch { return a; }
22:51 Shara never looked at Haskell
22:53 Sokomine Shara: sounds very good. need to do sightseeing on your server again
22:53 Shara Only problem with siteseeing on RC is that the really good builds tend to be out in the middle of nowhere
22:54 Shara I loved finding those ships though. First time I saw someone using the porthole nodes I made
22:55 Sokomine ah. yes. those look very nice
22:55 Sokomine don't you hand out travelnets? they ought to help with getting to nice sites
22:55 Shara Thank you. I was really pleased with how they turned out
22:55 Shara I won't add travelnets. I really don't like them.
22:55 Shara There's linking books though
22:55 Sokomine :-(
22:56 Sokomine they're made for tourists like myshelf :)
22:56 Shara Problem is, some of the builders don't really want random tourists (who are then likely to build nearby and make a mess of the landscape with lovely adorable bright pink boxes of wool!)
22:56 Sokomine you can give them another shape if that's what you don't like
22:57 Sokomine aaah. yes. know that problem.....
22:57 Shara Linking books do the job fine, so no need
22:57 benrob0329 Tardies
22:58 Shara I suppose the houses made purely of glass and crystal are worse than the wool though
22:58 Sokomine i've built an island on the the sea is my life server. players invited tended to attach their houses. some are not too bad, but do block places where i wanted to extend the island
22:58 Shara Especially the random floating cubes
22:58 Sokomine on non-creative servers you get cobble shacks
22:59 Shara Yea... RC has some extremely large long term projects, so thos eplayers don't want people moving in and building right by them
22:59 Shara It's a difficult balance... on one level it's great to show off the nice builds, but on another level... I really do want the players to get whatever space they need
22:59 Sokomine that's understandable. some servers (the german-speaking ones?) tend to have ruels about "don't build too close to other people"
23:00 Shara I have such rules, but... in practice...
23:00 Sokomine ...which isn't such a good idea for the creation of towns around spawn...
23:00 * benrob0329 has built a few cobble shacks, but the insides were generaly well decoated
23:00 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSoobKLXC-U this is epic
23:00 Shara benrob0329: if you build cobbleboxes on my servers I shall cry :(
23:00 benrob0329 I dont anymore, or if i do its a mix
23:01 benrob0329 wood/cobble/planks
23:01 Sokomine benrob0329: hmmm. a nice inside will not save a bad building. but...you can build cobble shacks below the surface. if there's grass growing on top and merely an entrance to the shack, nobody will mind
23:01 Shara yea, that works fine :)
23:01 Sokomine what does it show, fixer?
23:01 Fixer Sokomine: Duke Nukem: Duke Hard (addon)
23:01 Sokomine aah :-)
23:01 Fixer A community episode in which every mapper built one map map, taking place in a building
23:01 Fixer and each map representing a floor. You have to go up the building, floor by floor, with each
23:01 Fixer floor featuring a different theme. 17 levels to explore in this really nice pack!
23:02 Fixer i've played it and it was epic
23:02 Fixer worth it
23:02 Fixer will play again
23:02 benrob0329 whats fun is making a good building out of one material (bricks etc of said material arefine, otherwise itd be impossible)
23:02 benrob0329 like, some friends and i built a shop out of marble
23:03 benrob0329 aside from doors/windows
23:03 benrob0329 it was all marble, and it didnt look half bad
23:03 Sokomine Shara: it happens often that nice landscape gets ruined...but it's also a pity not to be able to see good builds. how shall those who don't know how to do better ever learn if they never see what's possible?
23:03 * benrob0329 attempts to find screenshots
23:03 Shara Sokomine: agreed, but on the other hand, that is for the builders to decide
23:04 Shara I'm not going to tell people there must be teleports to their areas just because it's my server
23:04 benrob0329 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp​;t=156&amp;p=218759&amp;hilit=benrob0329#p218757
23:05 Sokomine i've thought about something like linuxgaming (where's lazyj anyway?): "sell" plots at spawn for a high "price" of ingame currency. build towns with pre-set plots where people can click on a block and get that spot to build on. might even be so restrictive in the beginning that only building and digging on your own plot is possible. one server...er...minerealms(?) used to have such a only-use-your-o
23:05 Sokomine n-plot-policy
23:05 Sokomine Shara: no, of course not. but...sightseeing would be very very nice :-)
23:06 benrob0329 I want someone to make a nice cobble shack
23:06 benrob0329 just to show it can be done
23:06 Shara Someone should send LazyJ an invite... though I don't know if he will join here
23:06 Shara He's usually in my server channels when he is around
23:06 Sokomine it's not impossible. it's just tricky, and the house ought to be rather small
23:07 Shara benrob0329: I quit elike that building
23:07 Sokomine lazyj definitely ought to be here
23:07 Shara quite like*
23:07 * Sokomine stares at the post-your-screenshots-threat in fear
23:08 Shara Nice typo :)
23:08 Sokomine havn't watched that for so long...loading images always takes time, although it's such a nice threat sometimes
23:08 Shara threat?
23:08 Shara thread?
23:08 benrob0329 string?
23:08 benrob0329 rope?
23:08 Shara ropeladder. Clearly.
23:09 Sokomine er...whatever these forum-things are :-)
23:09 Shara Sokomine: threads
23:09 benrob0329 I wish i had that map, that way i could take new screen shots with the new smooth lighting
23:09 Shara I actually keep meaning to make rope ladders/netting of some kind
23:09 Sokomine ok...i sometimes mix threat and thread up
23:10 Fixer multthreading
23:10 Sokomine do you have a link to that screenshot directly, benrob?
23:10 Shara I want to add it to CRL... weave it out of mushroom gills so they have a use
23:10 benrob0329 its about 10 screnshots
23:11 * Shara is staring at tnt code
23:11 * Sokomine threatens her router with more threads to download and hopes that's right now
23:11 Shara :D
23:11 benrob0329 Sokomine: https://mail.incredible.ninja/cl​oud/index.php/s/t4h0cx3hixEsQRh
23:11 benrob0329 scroll down to...
23:12 benrob0329 153537
23:13 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/c6fSDhi.png
23:13 Fixer coococoococombobreaker
23:13 benrob0329 wh....wh...why???
23:14 Shara Fixer: I see waaaay too much of this!
23:14 Shara Please don't make me look at more.
23:14 benrob0329 How about, you can be sisters, if i get my 17 bytes back
23:15 Sokomine benrob0329: ah. looks nice. definitely not that nasty cobble material :-)
23:15 Fixer Shara: i will put a warning before link
23:15 Fixer NSFS
23:15 Sokomine Fixer: you ought to
23:16 Fixer we can be sisters and have money
23:16 * Fixer stops here before going too deep
23:16 Fixer and no moderators
23:16 * VanessaE grumbles
23:17 benrob0329 and right after that marble building, you can see a screenshot of FlightGear with waaay too much bloom
23:17 VanessaE (not at the above.  :)  I need nore's eyes on some code)
23:17 benrob0329 https://mail.incredible.ninja/cl​oud/index.php/s/AdK11FX0E8HiHGy
23:20 Shara Fixer: Sure :)
23:21 Shara Hi VanessaE :)
23:21 VanessaE hi
23:21 rubenwardy > incredible.ninja
23:21 rubenwardy cool
23:23 benrob0329 friend of mine snatched that domain, i dont regret him doing so either :-D
23:24 Fixer back from pooping, time to write a suggestion for chat6
23:25 benrob0329 thanks for the info...
23:27 Fixer benrob0329: np
23:30 Wayward_One What an interesting time for me to join xD
23:30 Shara Hi Wayward_One :)
23:31 Wayward_One Hello Shara :)
23:31 Wayward_One How are you today?
23:31 Shara Not too bad thanks. You?
23:33 Wayward_One That's good. I'm tired and bruised, but good lol. (Just got back from paintballing)
23:35 Shara Fun. I've always wanted to try it, but never found anyone mad enough to come with me :P
23:36 Fixer anyone has experience with lava orbs in minetest?
23:37 Fixer killed like <10 monsters - still no orb
23:37 Fixer so creepy to walk near lava with new sneak system
23:38 Wayward_One Lol Shara :p
23:39 Shara Fixer: Odds of getting them are quite low
23:39 Fixer that lava pickaxe is all i want
23:41 Fixer before going to sleep, found this https://openrct2.website/
23:41 Fixer no way
23:41 Fixer good night
23:43 Sokomine the orbs seem extremly rare. and the lava monsters are too cute to kill en masse

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