Time Nick Message 00:00 Fixer lots of nerzuls 00:00 nore yeah, I see at least 4 00:00 Shara 29 lines. I actually thought I had less. 00:00 Fixer i have no idea where I got 200 lines... of what? 00:00 rubenwardy updated including everyone 00:00 Fixer i had like 1 or 2 pr 00:01 nore Fixer: don't forget it includes doc... 00:01 Fixer 6 lines in total 00:01 Fixer my edits %) 00:01 Fixer for engine/game 00:01 red-001 oh nice it listed me as one person even through I changed my email 00:01 nore red-001: yeah, it's the name not the email that matters 00:01 Fixer "189 Binary file (standard input) matches" 00:01 Fixer wat? 00:02 red-001 github as having issues 00:02 red-001 s/as/was 00:02 rubenwardy Fixer: did a grep for you, there's a lot of "Translated using Weblate" 00:02 Fixer ahh... that 00:02 rubenwardy git ls-files | while read f; do git blame --line-porcelain $f | grep 'Fixer' -A 10; done 00:03 Fixer yes, i did some weblate 00:03 rubenwardy shows you the commit details for each line of git blame you're mentioned 00:03 Fixer not much, basic interface stuff, i didn't translated 800 config options %) 00:03 Fixer fuck that 00:03 Fixer all stuff needed for game is translated 00:03 Fixer advanced settings are not 00:03 Fixer maybe some time later 00:04 red-001 oh is the number of lines the number of lines added - number of lines removed? 00:04 rubenwardy red-001, it's the number of lines that are credited to a commit you made, according to git blame 00:04 rubenwardy ah, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot 00:04 Fixer did not translate* 00:05 rubenwardy it's not added - removed, as someone may have changed your lines since you 00:05 Fixer rubenwardy: vs nerzul 00:05 Fixer rubenwardy: and vs another nerzhul 00:05 Fixer or smth 00:05 Dumbeldor nerzhul <3 00:05 Dumbeldor :D 00:05 rubenwardy ah so, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot vs Ner'zhul vs nerzhul 00:06 Fixer wonder why celeron is second 00:06 Fixer he wrote shit ton of code after all 00:07 Fixer no way he is second 00:07 red-001 he is first on the github page 00:07 nore Fixer: number of lines *remaining* 00:07 red-001 oh 00:07 nore and est31 did the weblate commits IIRC 00:07 Fixer okay, anyway have fun and good night 00:08 rubenwardy weblate commits are attributed to the author, no? 00:08 Shara night Fixer 00:08 nore night 00:08 rubenwardy commiter is stored in a separate field 00:08 nore rubenwardy: maybe 00:08 rubenwardy author Fixer 00:08 rubenwardy committer est31 00:08 rubenwardy for example 00:08 rubenwardy night Fixer 00:08 nore but anyway, he did the SRP thing as well which is a lot of code he was the only one to modify 00:08 rubenwardy ah, true 00:10 nore rubenwardy: did you count the po files? 00:10 nore https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ae02d1eb8f4222d5cd3f885352011e4e699e6a3f <-- commits like this... 00:12 rubenwardy git ls-files lists *everything* in the repo 00:12 sofar nore: all my commits are using my real name 00:12 rubenwardy I can run it again with just .cpp, .lua, and .h if you like 00:12 nore sofar: hmmm, I must have misread then 00:13 nore I thought I had seen some credited to sofar, but I probably had read too fast 00:17 rubenwardy Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164 00:20 Shara Hmm, interesting 00:20 red-001 why? 00:21 Shara I jump quite a bit higher on that list in my overall placement, but I would have thought I was more focused on documentation related things than normal 00:21 Shara So it shows me I assumed wrong 00:22 rubenwardy updated to combine all of nerzhul together 00:24 red-001 https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164#file-author_line_source-txt-L116 00:24 red-001 is that some werid unicode or something? 00:24 rubenwardy no idea 00:25 Shara Looks like chinese name 00:29 benrob0329 Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux 01:03 rubenwardy realised I made a mistake in my grep, here is an updated version: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164 01:04 rubenwardy I didn't escape a dot, so some files that werent .h/.cpp/.lua were included 01:15 Shara Hi behalebabo. Hi ShadowNinja 01:16 behalebabo hello 01:18 red-001 He's worth a dozen of you. Hush and let him finish. 01:18 red-001 .. 01:19 red-001 why does copy and paste never work as expected 01:20 ShadowNinja Hello Shara! 01:21 sofar hello Guest37346 01:21 * sofar lags :) 01:21 ShadowNinja Heh. 01:22 ShadowNinja I've been away from MT long enough that I'm getting rather out of the loop. 01:22 Shara You may well have missed a lot then 01:22 sofar ShadowNinja: the loop isn't a good place to be in ;) 01:23 ShadowNinja Mailman recently decided to fill up my server's disk with errors because some permissons weren't right, and a noticed that some things weren't working. 01:23 Shara Hah, sofar is right about that. :) 01:23 ShadowNinja So I fixed that, and figured I'd check IRC too. 01:24 ShadowNinja sofar: Sorry but I don't get it. Movie/book reference? 01:24 benrob0329 Hi ShadowNinja 01:24 sofar naw, just a random comment 01:24 sofar but, things have been "wild" 01:26 benrob0329 A lot of controversy over the new sneak changes mainly 01:26 Shara And the rest 01:26 ShadowNinja sofar: Oh. 03:15 Shara Why am I still awake? 03:17 benrob0329 Because sleep is for noobs 03:19 Shara benrob0329: possibly 03:19 Shara Was working on a mod... and something was wrong. And I did not want to sleep until I figured it out :) 03:24 * VanessaE peeks in 03:24 Shara Hi Vanessa 03:25 benrob0329 (Offtopic, by Jeija) https://youtu.be/yCLb2eItDyE 04:09 VanessaE so, what'd I miss? :) 04:17 paramat inactivity :] 04:17 VanessaE heh 05:23 * benrob0329 finally can use Glowing Bear to access Weechat, now that /me has added a security exception 05:33 TommyTreasure benrob0329, were you the one that mentioned to me about removing the title bar from my vids? 05:33 benrob0329 Not sure 05:33 benrob0329 but its a good idea none the less 05:34 TommyTreasure any hints on how? other than cropping the vid... 05:34 TommyTreasure pm is fine 05:39 benrob0329 Use a window based screen recording setup 05:39 benrob0329 your SR software should allow you to select a window 05:40 TommyTreasure since i'm using a simulated 3 cam shoot, i've been using OBS 05:40 TommyTreasure each capture is set up as a separate scene 05:41 TommyTreasure NathanS had mentioned a cinnamon plugin, but not running cinnamon here 05:42 sofar my OBS doesn't record title bar 05:42 sofar but, linux 05:42 sofar under windows I don't know if it's different 05:42 TommyTreasure same here 05:42 sofar may also be capture method 05:42 benrob0329 you can crop it in obs 05:42 TommyTreasure mate 05:42 benrob0329 or selext window instead of screen 05:42 TommyTreasure i'll have to experiment more. thanks! 05:43 benrob0329 or shift f11 to full screen (borderless window) minetest 05:43 sofar I use "window capture - X composite" 05:43 sofar no need to tune 05:43 TommyTreasure hmmmmm, that's a thought too. btw, didn't know about shift F11 05:43 benrob0329 or, its supposed to do that 05:44 benrob0329 it doesnt want to work for me :-/ 05:44 sofar xfce4 here 05:44 benrob0329 gnome 3 here 05:44 TommyTreasure shift f11 doesn't do a thing on mine. 05:44 benrob0329 Kde 5 on my desktop 05:45 TommyTreasure my mate machine is the only box with enough cpu/gpu for vid work 05:45 benrob0329 granted, kde 5 has its own "fake" fullscreen you can set 05:46 benrob0329 (Offtopic) anyone know of a way to read wii disks on linux? 05:46 sofar I usually capture 1080p but my monitor is 2560x1600, so I have plenty pixels on the side where I can monitor terminal or put OBS itself also visible to me 05:46 sofar so I actually play "windowed" 05:46 sofar 1080p is like 2/3rd of my monitor, and like only half the surface 05:47 TommyTreasure i've been using my 46" tv for my 1080 monitor. have 2 - 23" i still need to fix 05:49 TommyTreasure 1080 is the max on all 3 of them 06:49 Krock o/ 06:50 benrob0329 \o 06:51 sniper570 \o/ 06:52 benrob0329 Before I go to bed 06:52 benrob0329 1491720735 06:52 benrob0329 Is the current unix time 06:52 benrob0329 Well, was 06:53 benrob0329 Anyways, gnight 07:21 celeron55 >Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua (https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164) 07:21 celeron55 that looks very much like what i thought it would 07:32 Krock nice stats. 07:32 * Krock adds some libraries to bump his line count upwards 07:36 sofar I'm surprised I'm above 500loc even 07:36 VanessaE I'm surprised I still show up in such a list :) 07:41 * sofar & bed 07:41 Krock false 07:42 Krock Error: bed not found. 07:45 VanessaE no sleep for you 08:20 Krock !tell 08:20 ShadowBot Krock: tell 08:23 * cheapie looks at that contributor list 08:23 cheapie "1 author cheapie" :P 08:24 Krock !tell Fixer from what I've seen in my damage evading tests: it's only possible to envade if the player is instantly moved away from the X/Z axis to keep the player on the node 08:24 ShadowBot Krock: O.K. 08:25 Krock cheapie, one _line_! 08:26 cheapie Krock: It's src/rollback.cpp:253, '"CREATE INDEX IF NOT EXISTS `actionIndex` ON `action`(`x`,`y`,`z`,`timestamp`,`actor`);\n",' 08:26 Krock that one is from you? 08:26 cheapie Yes. 08:26 Krock xD 08:26 Krock at least something :) 08:26 cheapie This commit: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/380e1504eb2445fd43c03c87d23b8e41e85a7871 09:18 tenplus1 hi folks 09:20 Krock hi tenplus1 09:20 tenplus1 hi Krock, how's you ? 09:21 Krock I'm fine, thanks :) 09:21 Krock how about you? 09:21 tenplus1 watching Samurai Jack to take my mind of mobs api :P 09:22 tenplus1 will increase stepsize to 1.1 so that mobs can walk uphill and follow players better... but... they can escape over fences easier now 09:44 Shara Morning all 09:45 tenplus1 hi shara 09:47 tenplus1 bbl 10:41 Calinou Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux 10:41 Calinou benrob0329: nice 10:42 Calinou there's Dirt Rally already, but I don't have it 10:42 Calinou I have Dirt 3 and Dirt Showdown though 10:55 celeron55 i tried dirt showdown and it was unplayable 10:55 celeron55 there was like multiple seconds of input lag 10:56 celeron55 the windows version probably works better in wine... 12:01 Jordach >trash rally game that isn't even proper WRC 12:02 Jordach benrob0329, Calinou ^^ 12:02 Jordach re: [01:29:47] Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux 12:03 * benrob0329 pops in 12:03 * benrob0329 pops out 12:03 Jordach lmao 12:17 Calinou celeron55: yes, it was an EoN port 12:17 Calinou which sucks, by definition 12:18 Jordach Calinou, wrong person :^) 12:18 Calinou no, celeron55 talked about Dirt Showdown Linux port 12:18 Jordach oh 12:18 sfan5 wut 12:18 sfan5 dirt showdown works perfectly here 12:19 Jordach it's almost playable on my APU A4 laptop with compositor 12:19 Jordach running windows makes it entirely playable 12:26 * benrob0329 throws window at Jordach 12:26 Jordach :^) 12:36 * Jordach sneezes 13:12 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/xt_N842KZdc 13:12 * benrob0329 wants this kind of stuff in carts 13:17 Fixer hi 13:17 Fixer Calinou: what is EoN? 13:17 Calinou it's bullshit tech to port games to Linux lazily 13:17 Fixer Calinou: and why it sucks? it is based on wine? 13:18 Calinou translation layers, etc 13:18 Calinou it's not Wine, exactly 13:18 Fixer ah 13:18 Calinou performs like crap, between other issues 13:18 sfan5 Calinou: [[citation needed]] 13:18 Calinou well, it's widely critisized 13:18 Calinou I've never tried it 13:19 benrob0329 Is it that hard to use OGL in your game engine? 13:19 sfan5 if you have developed solely for windows for years, yes 13:20 Calinou some people think using Direct3D is still better in this day and age 13:20 benrob0329 Then don't do a half assed port 13:20 Calinou so, for some people, yes :/ 13:20 benrob0329 Either go full Windows only, or go full cross platform 13:21 Calinou I wish AAA games used cross-platform tech for real, except they're not 13:21 benrob0329 don't go half assed, because then everyone's mad. 13:21 Calinou even people who have the balls to use OpenGL (id Software) refuse to make Linux ports for some reason 13:21 Calinou even though it'd be really cheap for them 13:21 Calinou (they already use full OpenGL or Vulkan…) 13:21 Calinou ok, it runs well in Wine, but then we have to depend on Steam Wine and such 13:21 benrob0329 Or how game go from Mac -> Windows before linux? 13:22 Calinou uh? 13:22 Fixer Calinou: id software does not port to linux? too bad 13:22 Calinou oh, I also really despise t hat 13:22 Calinou Fixer: yes, since RAGE 13:22 Fixer kek 13:22 Calinou Doom 3 BFG had to do with an unofficial Linux port, too, I believe 13:22 Calinou (but at least it was possible, thanks to source code) 13:22 Calinou benrob0329: yes, for example, the old GTAs are available on macOS, but not Linux, go figure why 13:23 benrob0329 Funnily enough, linux software often goes to Mac first 13:23 Calinou even though macOS is a terrible gaming platform 13:23 benrob0329 But its a *nix 13:30 CWz It's based on freebsd or openbsd if recall 13:30 sfan5 neither 13:30 sfan5 based on Darwin 13:31 benrob0329 Darwin has bits of FBSD in it 13:32 sfan5 not really 13:32 sfan5 darwin has code from bsd, freebsd has code from bsd too 13:33 Fixer the whole unix tree thing is very complicated 13:34 benrob0329 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) 13:34 benrob0329 Huh, its mostly OS 13:34 Fixer https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg/1200px-Unix_history-simple.svg.png 13:35 benrob0329 Oh gosh 13:36 Fixer Unix 9/10 was released recently 13:36 Fixer research one 13:36 Fixer it is insane to think it goes back to 1969 13:39 Fixer this is pretty good video about "Time Sharing" O/S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anxxe8SdX78 13:39 Fixer before unix 13:48 * CWz hands Fixer a windows 95 disk 13:48 Fixer CWz: no need 13:49 Fixer i think i have w95 on disk anyway 13:49 CWz 3.11? 13:49 Fixer i have it 13:49 Fixer easy to find it 13:52 Fixer CWz: https://i.imgur.com/Cp7Ml5r.png 13:52 CWz cool 13:52 CWz DOSbox? 13:52 Fixer yes 13:53 Fixer used it on 16 or 33mhz machine few times 13:53 Fixer it was mainly dos gaming anyway 13:53 Fixer but it had win3.11 too 13:55 Fixer lets play minetest 14:27 Calinou https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/273827329766326284/300588629032697856/windows.jpg 14:27 Calinou the truth behind Windows versions 14:27 Fixer Calinou: i knew it 14:27 Fixer Calinou: win2000 classic theme/ui is the best 14:28 Calinou yeah, Windows XP themes were plain horrible 14:28 Fixer then it all degenerated in aero/metro/flat puke 14:28 Fixer poooop 14:28 Fixer total poop 14:28 red-001 I see OC is still trying to get the trademark 14:28 Fixer also Office 2003 14:28 Fixer same blue poop 14:28 Fixer red-001: minetest.org 14:29 red-001 I just read that 14:29 Fixer win7 is the last one with classic theme without hacks 14:29 Calinou OldCoder is officially beyond crazy… 14:29 red-001 Calinou ? 14:29 Calinou what is trying to get a trademark on? 14:30 red-001 well he is hyprocritcal 14:30 * red-001 offically can't spell hypocritical correctly 14:31 red-001 Calinou, the name minetest from what I can see 14:33 Fixer Calinou: in 2001 i kinda expected consistent interfaces, and it was, mostly (apart from DOS era programs in DOS prompt), win3 era programs were rare, but now it is giant clusterfuck, everything is different, entire f-ing windows is different each release, each f-ing browser or antivirus or office or other BS wants to be cool and hip and use own interface just because fuck everybody 14:36 Calinou red-001: aka. betraying the whole community 14:36 red-001 yes 14:37 red-001 I tried getting some sort of explaining for it yesterday but that just ended in being insulted and then banned 14:38 red-001 s/explaining/explanation 14:38 nore I only got insults for my questions as well 14:38 nore maybe someone who he isn't completely crazy at should ask 14:39 nore I can't even reason with him, he is just mad at me 14:40 Krock I also talked to him a few days. Perhaps I'm the only who wasn't insulted o.0 14:40 Fixer i think sneak problem is the reason 14:40 Krock or rather.. he talked with me 14:42 Fixer cheapie: not sure about you, but some of nickname colours of chat6 are insanely hard to read on some backgrounds 14:43 Krock black text on black background :3 14:43 Fixer more like green on green 14:43 Fixer or violet on anything 14:43 Fixer wine-like colour 14:44 Fixer so it needs a solid black background behind to see it clearly 14:45 Fixer endroit o.O 14:53 Fixer current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQ3GEncwh8 14:56 * benrob0329 returns 15:13 paramat "we control about 40 worlds" OC talks to the dead and has a galactic empire :] 15:16 red-001 talks to the dead you say 15:31 * Fixer .oO(gonna make a move) 15:31 Fixer it is amazing how foliage and stuff can change the impression 15:45 Krock Fixer, you checked the damage evading multiple times in a row, few seconds apart, right? 15:45 Fixer Krock: yep 15:45 Krock ah, there we have it why you were able to evade 15:46 Krock there's a 3.0s cooldown after being teleported 15:46 Krock in that time no damage is taken from the player 15:46 Fixer Krock: let me try again 15:47 Krock I believe you won't be able to evade when waiting for some seconds first 15:47 Fixer testing 15:48 Fixer Krock: LOL, yes i can't evade if wait >3 sec 15:48 Fixer Krock: good catch, trololo 15:48 Krock there we go. 15:48 paramat awesome 15:49 Krock I've searched for over a hour now this problem 15:49 Krock and it's a stupid cooldown timer 15:49 Fixer yes 15:49 Krock collision detection is a-ok 15:49 paramat what about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/329#issuecomment-289311843 though? 15:49 Krock fixed in my pull, could be adapted to original code aswell 15:50 paramat good 15:51 paramat could you link me to the fix for that so i can apply it to current new move code? 15:52 Krock https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest/blob/cdf897b/src/localplayer.cpp#L277-L284 15:53 Krock ^ code not complete there, needs additional collision_info != NULL check 15:54 Fixer Krock: but why this 3 second is needed? 15:55 Krock // Ignore damage for a few seconds, so that the player doesn't 15:55 Krock // get damage from falling on ground 15:55 Krock m_ignore_damage_timer = 3.0; 15:55 Krock and this in the function where the player's position is set 15:55 Krock I assume this comes from in-game, where admins teleport players that dno't fly 15:55 Fixer for example parkour maps with saving position, this 3 seconds can be used to avoid damage in parkour 15:56 Fixer by doing /home and jumping with sneak 15:56 Krock I'm already writing a pull for this, to shorten down to perhaps 2 seconds 15:56 Fixer sneak is not needed btw %) 15:56 Fixer within 3 seconds any jump is non damage 15:57 Fixer interesting 15:57 Krock the old sneak code just opened another possiblity to evade 15:58 Krock Fixer, could you please also add this code reference to your comment on github? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/network/clientpackethandler.cpp#L585-L587 15:58 Fixer yes 15:58 paramat thanks 15:59 Krock easier for developers and perhaps some players to understand why 15:59 Fixer i feel not good for this timer 15:59 Fixer huge hack 15:59 Fixer but maybe there are reasons 16:00 paramat i can't see a good reason for the cooldown (yet) 16:00 paramat if you fall, too bad 16:00 Fixer maybe because of teleport speed + lag? 16:02 paramat player would be suspended in ignore not moving 16:02 Fixer m_ignore_damage_timer is used in other parts of minetest too 16:02 Fixer client.cpp 16:02 Fixer for example 16:03 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=m_ignore_damage_timer&type= 16:03 Krock yes, the damage handling, that is. 16:04 Krock don't care about it now. removing the variable 16:05 paramat i would remove it, or if there's a good reason make it an option 16:05 Fixer maybe ask celeron 16:05 Fixer maybe he remembers 16:05 Fixer celeron55: 16:08 Fixer reducing it one thing but completely removing can be dangerous without full understanding 17:00 Krock Fixer, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5552 17:16 Fixer Krock: yeah, i see it 17:17 VanessaE zzz *snort* wha? *rubs eyes* good morning all (or something) 17:20 Krock moin, VanessaE 17:21 VanessaE so what's today's drama? :) 17:22 Krock I found the anti-damage suit that lasts for three seconds after respawn 17:23 VanessaE heh 17:23 Krock which also make me scratching on the head for many times 17:23 Krock (searching a bug where none is) 17:24 Krock and now it's apparently a feature that's going to removed by HAAAAAANDS 17:24 VanessaE I feel bad for stu, seems like every time he releases an Armor mod update, something breaks :) 17:24 Fixer Krock: maybe it has to do with teleporting/respawn or smth, comment itself says about falling... but who knows 17:25 Krock Fixer, if nobody knows why it was originally added, it's going to removed as there's apparently no big use (apart from cheating) from it 17:39 tenplus1 hi folks 17:44 Shara Hi everyone 17:44 tenplus1 hi Shara 17:44 Shara Hi tenplus1 :) 17:47 CWz Ello 17:48 tenplus1 hi CWz, hi octacian 17:48 tenplus1 lol 17:49 Twentyplus10 Ello 17:50 VanessaE hi 17:50 tenplus1 hi Vanessa 17:51 benrob0329 http://m.imgur.com/81NLVz6 17:51 tenplus1 lolol, hi ben 17:51 benrob0329 Hello 18:03 Jordach *eurobeat plays in the distance* 18:04 tenplus1 *unf unf unf unf unf unf* 18:07 * CWz places a giant pie on the table 18:07 * CWz wonders off 18:08 tenplus1 :P 18:08 benrob0329 What flavor? 18:10 tenplus1 7-up 18:12 red-001 did https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5418 happen to anyone here? 18:12 tenplus1 I do get those warning messages but thankfully it never crashes anything 18:13 benrob0329 tenplus1: you missed the opportunity... 18:13 benrob0329 PIE FLAVOR! 18:14 tenplus1 heh :) 18:14 Fixer POOOP 18:14 benrob0329 Thays just gross 18:15 tenplus1 my pie (cake) mod has meat flavour :D 18:15 benrob0329 Kill it... 18:15 benrob0329 WITH FIRE 18:16 tenplus1 meatloaf pah! 18:16 * Jordach plays 80s rock 18:16 benrob0329 *hurls* 18:16 Fixer poop flavour 18:16 benrob0329 Again, thats just gross 18:17 tenplus1 ehehehehe, we already have normal cake, banoffee pie, strawberry cheesecake, red velvet, coffee, and meat 18:17 benrob0329 You should add.. 18:17 benrob0329 PUE FLAVOR 18:17 tenplus1 pue ? 18:18 benrob0329 Dirp, my typing skills are not the best on a phone 18:18 Jordach and i thought mine was bad 18:18 benrob0329 Ahhhem.. 18:18 Jordach jeeez 18:18 benrob0329 PIE FLAVOR! 18:21 Fixer https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2916 18:21 Fixer interesting 18:22 benrob0329 tenplus1: do you have a link to your pie mod? 18:22 benrob0329 I have a pr to make... 18:22 tenplus1 github.com/tenplus1/pie 18:22 celeron55 the point of the fall damage cooldown is that the player doesn't get hurt when it spawns into the world or teleports somewhere 18:22 tenplus1 hi celeron 18:23 Fixer Krock: ^^ 18:23 red-001 ^^^ 18:23 Fixer i guess it can be safely removed then 18:23 * Jordach has that problem in Solar Plains 18:23 Fixer teleporter is responsible for any damages he does to himself 18:23 Krock yes, I already assumed something like that. Doesn't seem to be too important 18:24 Fixer please nuke it 18:24 Fixer time to suffer gravity 18:24 * Shara seems to always spawn underground... 18:24 Fixer i never had problems with spawning in mid air, only problem is damn spawn in tree 18:25 Jordach Fixer, i have an experimental safe spawn 18:25 Shara It's always been underground and needing to grant myself noclip to get out 18:25 Krock we already have a pretty good initial spawn algorithm and admin-failure can't be prevented at all 18:25 Jordach Krock, Solar Plains spawns users from -20k-> +20k 18:26 Krock <.< 18:26 Jordach trying to mine near spawn on a public server is something for mentally inane people 18:27 Fixer Jordach: mamber Kray spawn with deep chasm below? 18:27 Jordach yeeeeeep 18:28 Fixer ^______________^ 18:30 Jordach >tenplus1's food mod 18:30 Jordach > http://i.imgur.com/soTe69k.jpg 18:30 tenplus1 ehehehe 18:35 Fixer tenplus1: remind me, are those mobs br--dable? 18:36 tenplus1 yeah, certain animals and npc's can be bred 18:36 Fixer tenplus1: remind me, what is useful apart from cow and sheep? 18:37 Krock Jordach, seen the dump on imgur too. Do you also fight against the sun all day? 18:37 tenplus1 warthog gives pork :))) 18:37 tenplus1 chickens give eggs 18:37 tenplus1 will add feathers soon when I have more recipes for use 18:41 benrob0329 Wee need bows in mtg 18:41 tenplus1 github.com/tenplus1/bows 18:41 benrob0329 Or some kind of distance weapon 18:41 Jordach bow ties, hair bows, shortbows, longbows or recurve bows 18:41 benrob0329 isn't it obvious? 18:42 benrob0329 Bow Ties, I mean comr on 18:42 * Shara was going to do that 18:42 benrob0329 Because... 18:42 Shara Then I realised it would just be silly on my server :D 18:42 benrob0329 Biw Ties are Cool 18:43 benrob0329 And I can't type one handed 18:43 Shara I wanted to have accesories that could be worn instea dof armour to give some bonuses at the price of no defence 18:43 * Shara can't type two handed either 18:51 TommyTreasure try typing with a pencil duck taped to the cast on your left hand! lol 18:51 TommyTreasure hello people 18:51 benrob0329 Hi 18:51 tenplus1 hi tommy 18:53 Jordach Minetest: http://i.imgur.com/bi03wwa.jpg 18:53 tenplus1 hah 18:53 benrob0329 hmm 18:54 benrob0329 id make a better game, called Eternity 18:54 * Jordach irl http://i.imgur.com/9vqkiQb.jpg 18:56 tenplus1 seen som any dank memes with that one lately 18:56 Krock Jordach, upscale your IRL image with waifu2x :P 18:57 benrob0329 #minetest-memes, for all your meme needs 18:57 Jordach benrob0329, http://i.imgur.com/pOqv9M7.jpg 18:58 benrob0329 8-BG? 18:58 tenplus1 https://pics.onsizzle.com/2438828.png 18:59 benrob0329 Kill it, kill it with acid 18:59 benrob0329 tenplus1: why does your pie mod only have cake? 18:59 tenplus1 https://68.media.tumblr.com/62152b87f72be145afd8a6727ad08a27/tumblr_inline_ocqdbf1S261qgp297_540.jpg 18:59 benrob0329 is the Pie a lie? 18:59 tenplus1 pie = cake 18:59 benrob0329 it is not the same! 19:02 Krock Jordach, you can clean your motherboard this way. No problem, as long no battery is mounted anymore. Just make sure it's somewhat dry when testing 19:06 red-001 you can clean it that way for sure 19:06 red-001 the thing that isn't is that it will contiune to work afterwards 19:06 benrob0329 tenplus1: if the pie is a lie, then pie flavor doeth not exsist! 19:07 tenplus1 the pie is no lie :D 19:07 Krock only the cake is a lie. pie is fine. 19:07 tenplus1 was gonna add cupcakes also for each pie flavour but I only have permission to use textures on server 19:08 benrob0329 but the pie is really cake, that is not the way! 19:08 benrob0329 pie must be pie! 19:08 tenplus1 it was made to replace the original pie mod with had 1 pie.. I added API to add new pie's and made it work with hudbars, hbhunger and stamina mod... 19:08 tenplus1 the name stuck 19:09 benrob0329 Pie != Cake 19:09 benrob0329 pie:pie == cake, and my life is a lie 19:09 tenplus1 eheheheh, *noms cake* 19:10 * benrob0329 noms on a c book 19:10 Krock https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbP-oMWEAAT8AH.jpg 19:10 benrob0329 specifically, the C book 19:11 tenplus1 :P 19:11 benrob0329 Krock: but IE died a few years ago..oh wait it doesnt know that yet 19:12 tenplus1 http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/fitted/620x/this-windows-10-joke-just-won-the-internet-491641-8.jpg 19:12 Krock died officially but it still walks and trolls in its grave 19:12 tenplus1 brb 19:13 benrob0329 IE is the walking dead, but in 2012 19:14 Krock related: (for those here who haven't seen it yet) https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBW6rYZ_700b.jpg 19:15 rubenwardy loooool 19:16 Fixer lol 19:18 benrob0329 lol 19:19 tenplus1 https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5939690cf5ba8aab26f174a0499b4c27-c 19:20 tenplus1 last one: http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/internet-explorer-windows-comics1.jpg 19:21 paramat Shara is it mgvalleys that spawns you underground? 19:22 red-001 could someone explain to me how chrome always uses up all my memory no matter how much I have? 19:22 tenplus1 you can disable cache to speed things up and save memory 19:22 benrob0329 because FireFox is the only way 19:22 red-001 it used up all my memory when I used it on a pc with 4gb and it does the same thing on a pc with 8gb 19:22 * tenplus1 has 2gb and runs with chromium no probs 19:23 Fixer like yesterday I run firefox with 1tab open on 760mb PC, full mem, laaaaaaaaaaag 19:23 red-001 yeah it ran well on both systems 19:23 benrob0329 is it bad that my laptop is running at 41c ? 19:23 Jordach no 19:23 red-001 but it's annoying when you use your pc for things other then chrome 19:23 Krock that's normal 19:23 Fixer benrob0329: not at all 19:23 Jordach if its ~75c 19:23 Jordach r u n 19:24 red-001 it seems to try to take up all the memory it can like some sort of werid malware 19:24 benrob0329 it idles around 35c , but its kind of in the sun atm 19:24 tenplus1 on linux edit: /etc/google-chrome/default and change chromium_flags to read: CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--disk-cache-dir=/dev/null --disk-cache-size=1 --media-cache-size=1" 19:24 Krock tenplus1, the sign about the laptops looks like a mean warning 19:24 tenplus1 hehe yeah 19:25 benrob0329 75c though? it wouldnt still be in my lap lol 19:25 benrob0329 id be tossin it in the freezer 19:25 Jordach frieza* 19:25 Jordach huehuebrbrbr 19:26 Fixer frizar 19:26 benrob0329 The Freezer 3000 19:29 Shara paramat: seems to be anything and everything single player that does it 19:29 Shara I can test more at some point 19:29 tenplus1 the 0,0,0 spawn thing shara ? 19:29 Shara Nope, it's a singleplayer thing 19:30 tenplus1 ? 19:30 Shara It's not a big deal, especially if no one else has been having it 19:30 Shara tenplus1: I always spawn underground when starting new on singleplayer 19:30 tenplus1 latest dev ? 19:31 Shara No. It's been consistent for a while though. 19:31 Shara I'd say it's probably my settings, but had it on multiple clients 19:31 tenplus1 weird... havent had that issue... windows or linux ? 19:31 Shara windows 19:32 tenplus1 is it always at same position ?? 19:32 Shara Don't know. It's not something I've really looked at probably. Was just an observation 19:32 Shara properly* 19:32 tenplus1 check .conf for static_spawnpoint 19:33 Shara As I said, multiple clients, so can't be that 19:33 Shara But in the middle of ten things at once right now, so nto a good time to dig :P 19:33 tenplus1 and different mapgens ? 19:33 Shara not* 19:37 Shara I really can't say without spending some time testing it 19:37 tenplus1 testing now on linux :P 19:38 Krock offtopic: a ship shipping ships: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C87u7MfWAAQ5NHv.jpg 19:38 tenplus1 lol Krock 19:41 paramat thanks, if it happens again check F5 for co-ords 0,0,0 19:42 tenplus1 cant reproduce, and it's very weird that it's a windows only thing 19:42 VanessaE Krock: "you dawg, I heard you like to ship things, so I put a shipping ship under your shipping ships so you can ship while you ship." :) 19:43 VanessaE yo* 19:43 Krock yeah, in about that. 19:43 Shara paramat: it definitely was not 0,0,0 bug 19:44 Shara but it's really not a thing I'm worried about for now. I'll do a proper test sometime. 19:44 paramat no prob 19:45 Shara :) 19:48 * Sokomine tries to sort all that ship shipping out and fails 19:49 Fixer i have problems with spawning in trees, v7 19:50 Sokomine there's at least one subgame that has leaves where you can walk and climb through. that's very convenient. i sometimes miss it in normal mtg. spawning in trees would be less problematic then 19:58 benrob0329 ive gotten my laptop down to 38c, but the top still feels like its a flippen solar pannel 20:01 Jordach use a macbook :^) 20:01 benrob0329 or a laptop that doesnt have a black surface 20:01 * tenplus1 installs Xubuntu on macbook 20:01 TommyTreasure decrease display brightness and contrast 20:02 TommyTreasure ? 20:02 * benrob0329 would install Antergos on a macbook 20:02 benrob0329 nah, its the fact that the sun is shining on it 20:02 benrob0329 and im co pilot in a car so i cant move 20:02 tenplus1 why not buy an actual solar panel for lid :) free power 20:02 * TommyTreasure searches for sunglasses for lappy's 20:03 benrob0329 hi octacian 20:03 benrob0329 hi again octacian 20:03 octacian hey benrob0329 20:03 tenplus1 http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/data/kanye-webst/kanye-laptop-glasses.jpg 20:03 TommyTreasure lol 20:04 benrob0329 what are those? 20:04 benrob0329 aside from butt ugly 20:04 Jordach shutter shades 20:04 benrob0329 thats the worst idea ive ever heard 20:05 TommyTreasure bad joke in this case: when you're cool, the sun always shines 20:05 Jordach welcome to the ghetto 20:06 atorian37 i need urgent help. a player set my world on fire, i already future_banned him and rollback the interacts of him. is there a way to restore landscape to the time before he enters the game? 20:06 Krock you can regenerate the terrain if there are no buildings around 20:06 benrob0329 \/deleteblocks 20:06 benrob0329 /deleteblocks 20:06 Fixer i've seen everything https://i.imgur.com/05xNJdR.png 20:07 atorian37 ok what is the preferred way if there are no buildings (but its a huge area of forest) 20:07 benrob0329 *facedesk* 20:07 tenplus1 o.O 20:07 benrob0329 just //deleteblocks here 10 20:07 benrob0329 do that a few times 20:07 benrob0329 or up it to 20 20:07 atorian37 ok, what means the number? 20:08 Krock the range 20:08 atorian37 thanks! 20:08 tenplus1 //deleteblocks 10 regenerates the area of map you are standing in up to 10 blocks in all directions 20:08 Krock prefer lower values to not destroy buildings nearby 20:08 Krock where BLOCKS = 16^3 NODES 20:08 paramat it will regen the forest too 20:08 atorian37 ok I give it a try with 5 or os 20:09 atorian37 so 20:09 paramat although, it may regen the whole mapchunk of 80^3 nodes 20:09 paramat probably will in fact 20:09 Krock (for default chunksize 5) 20:10 paramat yeah 20:10 Krock since that param can be changed easily 20:10 Sokomine atorian37: might be best to create a backup of your world first before starting to restore. and don't forget to remove fire 20:10 paramat the range may be in nodes 20:10 atorian37 that gives "worldedit no region sleected" :( 20:10 TommyTreasure you may also want to consider adding 'disable_fire = true' to your minetest.conf 20:11 atorian37 thats a good idea too thanks 20:11 paramat / is worldedit command, / is MT builtin command 20:11 paramat sorry, // is worldedit 20:11 Sokomine that's essential for servers, yes. the only server that might get away with fire beeing active is the adventuretest testserver. and even there there's a huge forrest on fire that has been like this for month 20:12 atorian37 ok that worked... 20:12 benrob0329 oh, hi Sokomine 20:12 Sokomine hi benrob0329 20:13 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua#L471 20:15 TommyTreasure i set my own world on fire. found the fix quickly! 20:16 Shara It feels like fire should be disabled by default for servers really (if it isn't) 20:16 tenplus1 +1 you never know who will start a huge forest fire 20:17 Shara I've run into so many new server owners who are upset/in a panic about things being burned down, and they simply didn't know the option was a thing 20:19 red-001 +1 to fire being off by default on servers 20:19 Shara paramat / other devs: any thoughts about that? 20:20 * Sokomine nods heavily to Shara 20:20 Sokomine it's something most server owners have to learn over time. fire on servers really isn't a good idea. it might be ok in singleplayer hardcore survival... 20:21 tenplus1 also disabled lava buckets on xanadu 20:21 Sokomine they're another common problem, yes 20:21 Shara I priv lock lava buckets 20:21 Sokomine but fire on servers...that always comes up. disabling it by default might be a very good idea 20:27 benrob0329 or making it less cpu intensive 20:28 * benrob0329 mentions having an "burning" state for nodes, rather than a seperate mod... 20:31 Sokomine cpu intensive is one factor against fire on servers. unwanted destruction usually weights even more heavy. on the few servers where fire might be wanted, it ccan still be enabled if it's off by default. at least those server owners enabling it will then koow what they're doing 20:32 atorian37 I disabled it from now on, thank you all for the immediate help, I did not know the /deletblocks command. I guess buildings has to be repaired "by hand"? 20:32 tenplus1 nite folks 20:32 Shara atorian37: it can also be good to enable rollback, though some people may disagree with me. 20:32 Sokomine perhaps rollback might help 20:33 atorian37 rollback is enabled allready but does tis help with fire damage? 20:34 benrob0329 he does have a point 20:34 Shara never had fire damage to test 20:34 Shara Hmm 20:34 benrob0329 rollback should be able to revert fire damage 20:35 Shara rollback reverts actions of a named player right? So depends if the destruction is counted as an action of the player or something else? 20:35 atorian37 do you know the syntax? usually I use /rollback