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IRC log for #minetest-delta, 2012-07-11

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00:11 Aerodynamicx Okay Im back again
00:12 Aerodynamicx I have compiled it already.
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00:13 Aerodynamicx So where am I to go from there?
00:18 Aerodynamicx Anyone here?
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00:22 Aerodynamicx ?
00:22 marktraceur Yep!
00:23 Aerodynamicx Where do I go from compilation?
00:23 Aerodynamicx I have finished that
00:23 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: ./bin/minetestserver should start the server
00:24 Aerodynamicx After I have created it of course?
00:24 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: What?
00:24 Aerodynamicx I have to create the server and do a bunch of option editing right?
00:25 marktraceur Um
00:25 marktraceur You can, the defaults should be OK for now
00:25 marktraceur Just run it, see what happens
00:25 Aerodynamicx In the config file and all. Isn't that necessary?
00:25 marktraceur Not really, no
00:25 Aerodynamicx Okay after I ran that I didn't get any command line options. Just an empty text line. Do I need to shut down the terminal?
00:26 marktraceur Um, no
00:26 marktraceur Is it still running?
00:26 Aerodynamicx Okay then how am I supposed to start it? I get no command options. Yeah its still running
00:26 marktraceur It's started, connect to it
00:28 Aerodynamicx I dont even know what to put in? Localhost? Because I didnt have to set any of that stuff up..
00:29 Aerodynamicx YES it worked!
00:29 marktraceur Default to localhost, of course
00:29 Aerodynamicx And others connect through my external IP right?
00:30 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: So long as you've port forwarded, yes
00:30 Aerodynamicx Ive done that on windows. Does that apply here or will I need to do that here too? (I dont think so right?)
00:31 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: So long as the IP hasn't changed, no further changes are necessary
00:31 Aerodynamicx Im gonna log into the router and check just incase
00:32 Aerodynamicx Yeah I have even more than necessary forwarded. Does the server terminal need to stay open for the server to stay on?
00:33 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Yes, but you can use something like GNU screen or byobu to detach the process
00:33 VanessaE no,
00:33 VanessaE only if it didn't return a command prompt.
00:33 VanessaE if it did, and it's still running, "exit" or ctrl-D to close the terminal without terminating the server.
00:34 marktraceur VanessaE: I didn't have him detach the process in any way
00:34 VanessaE oh\
00:34 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Try Ctrl-Z
00:34 VanessaE ok then, I'll shut up :)
00:34 marktraceur That should background it, but I'm not sure if you can then close the terminal
00:34 VanessaE no
00:34 VanessaE ctrl-z
00:34 VanessaE bg
00:34 VanessaE enter
00:34 Aerodynamicx No I know how to background it
00:34 VanessaE ctrl-d
00:34 Aerodynamicx Just wondering if I need to keep the terminal open
00:35 Aerodynamicx So it can't be a 24 hour server? (Assuming I dont keep my computer on 24 hours.) Which I wont
00:35 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Well, no, if you turn off your server, your server will turn off
00:35 * marktraceur didn't think he'd ever have to say something like that
00:35 VanessaE powered-off server is powered off.
00:35 VanessaE :-)
00:36 Aerodynamicx Yeah, I didnt know that the terminal was literally my server..
00:37 Aerodynamicx Just to make sure I didnt mess up could someone try to connect real quick? If it works you can then leave automatically
00:37 VanessaE address?
00:37 Aerodynamicx 74.138.121.73       I believe is the correct adress
00:37 VanessaE connecting...
00:38 Aerodynamicx It worked
00:38 VanessaE yup, it works.
00:38 Aerodynamicx Thanks
00:39 Aerodynamicx So if I have to get another Computer with the same router will I need to repeat this entire process? (It seems like I will seeing that the only one that involved server setup was just typing minetestserver.)
00:39 Aerodynamicx I will just re-install ubuntu. Go back through those series of events and the same should happen?
00:40 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Yes, though if you want to run two servers, obviously you'll need to change the port in minetest.conf and port-forward that one separately
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00:40 Aerodynamicx Na. Thats not the intent. I will probably just save all these files onto some FTP medium and when my new computer comes I will just download them
00:42 marktraceur Mmmkay
00:42 Aerodynamicx That should work shouldn't it?
00:43 marktraceur So long as it's the same architecture, the same OS, and the same libraries are installed.....probably
00:43 marktraceur I wouldn't bet on it
00:43 Aerodynamicx Yeah I know it needs to be the same OS, Same Libraries should be because It was in Desktop
00:43 marktraceur I'm skipping out
00:43 marktraceur BBL
00:44 marktraceur Good luck
00:44 Aerodynamicx Ok thanks
00:44 VanessaE oh good, the boss is gone...now where's that bucket of lava.......
00:44 VanessaE ;-)
00:50 Aerodynamicx Okay I know how to do this on a windows machine. But how can I make myself server admin here on the Linux server?
00:51 VanessaE you mean within the game or generallt?
00:52 Aerodynamicx Within the game server
00:52 VanessaE (generally, you already are the admin if you installed the OS yourself)
00:52 VanessaE good question
00:52 Aerodynamicx Yeah, Of course I know how to set up admin on my own Linux machine. I am talking serverwise
00:56 VanessaE just making sure :-)
00:56 VanessaE I've met a few folks who use linux but you'd swear are as dumb as a bag of hammers, so I try not to assume anymore :-)
01:06 Aerodynamicx My friend tried to connect and it says he does not have the right "protocol", Can someone help  me out here? I am on limited time and I havent seen him in a while
01:07 Aerodynamicx Please?
01:12 Aerodynamicx Nobody can help me out?
01:13 Fury is he using same version as you?
01:13 Aerodynamicx He said he has 0.4
01:14 Aerodynamicx He's sure about it
01:14 Aerodynamicx What could cause this?
01:15 NakedFury dont know, port maybe?
01:16 Aerodynamicx He has windows and I have Linux, Could that cause it?
01:16 NakedFury no
01:16 NakedFury marks server is hosted in a linux machine
01:17 NakedFury I am connecting from windows version
01:17 VanessaE either your copy or his copy of 0.4 is outdated.
01:18 Aerodynamicx Hmm... Myn and yours worked together. So it must be his?
01:18 VanessaE the protocol number changed not long ago, rendering the oldest builds of 0.4 as servers useless with more recent 0.4 as a client
01:18 VanessaE I can't, for example, use gameboom's server because their copy of 0.4 is too old.
01:18 Aerodynamicx Ah. So what I have is the newest?
01:19 VanessaE what's the build number?
01:19 VanessaE (the github hash, 6 or 8 hex digits at the end of the foldername)
01:19 VanessaE 02fb912 is the latest.
01:19 Aerodynamicx Yeah thats what I have. Is there a way he can get that on his Windows machine?
01:20 NakedFury there is a post in the forums where a user, sfan compiles the versions, he compiled for windows and its the latest version too
01:20 VanessaE should be available I'd think
01:20 Aerodynamicx Can you link me to it?
01:20 Aerodynamicx He is a novice user when it comes to minetest
01:21 NakedFury http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1523
01:22 Aerodynamicx Which of the links is the correct one?
01:24 Aerodynamicx The one that says latest next to it?
01:24 NakedFury yes
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10:26 art_ hi
10:27 art_ is anyone known how loading textures is working ... simply where is it in code .. in what file... function... anything ..
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10:42 Calinou art_, tip: grep :P
10:43 Calinou minetest supports .png, but also .jpg and some other formats
10:52 art_ Calinou: i did'n asked about supported formats but how to add new texture... in source of course
10:52 Calinou dunno then
10:53 art_ painting 3D items is simple compere to adding new texure >.<
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17:57 art_ hi
17:58 marktraceur art_: Hi!
17:59 art_ do anybody known where textures (in code) are loaded ?
18:00 art_ in what function or at least file..
18:02 art_ and one more thing why every side of boxes are painted by 4 verices
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18:03 Anelisa Hi ! :)
18:04 marktraceur Anelisa: Ah, welcome!
18:04 marktraceur art_: I don't know, sorry
18:04 Anelisa Thanks !
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18:10 art sory internet problems ..
18:10 art so .. there was answer or not ?
18:14 marktraceur art: Nope
18:15 art as i thought .... ;(
18:20 art hmy so maybe sb will know what are u16 indices[] ... used in rendering blocks ..
18:21 marktraceur art: Unsigned, 16-bit integers
18:21 art and one more thing do u guys have idea who may known that ?
18:21 art ye that i known but what for that is used ...
18:22 marktraceur art: Can you please use full words?
18:22 art i'm sorry give me a moment please ..
18:23 art to put it simply it's part of graphical engine it's even in tutorial http://irrlicht.sourceforg​e.net/docu/example003.html
18:26 art but there are two things i don't understand why there are 4 vectors with points instead of 3 ( it should be sufficient to draw triangle) and what are indieces in render() function
18:27 art in minetest source drawings looks almost identical
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18:48 darkrose https://github.com/darkrose/minetest added a minetest.get_craft_recipe('output') to the lua api... now to see if c55 will include it
18:48 marktraceur darkrose: He'd have to be here for that :/
18:49 darkrose he is, he's just hiding
18:49 * marktraceur doesn't get it
19:13 NakedFury how does that output work?
19:15 marktraceur darkrose: ^ and also does it return multiple recipes if they exist?
19:25 NakedFury would it be too much to ask for examples when someone wants something added to the api?
19:27 darkrose minetest.get_craft_recipe('default:torch') -> {type="normal", items={'default:lump_of_coal','default:stick'}}
19:27 darkrose minetest.get_craft_recipe('default:torch') -> {type="normal", items={0 = 'default:lump_of_coal',3 = 'default:stick'}}
19:28 darkrose and no, it only returns one recipe
19:28 marktraceur Sadness.
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