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IRC log for #minetest-delta, 2012-07-10

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10:22 art hi is here sb online form dev team ?
10:25 art maybe i will change question .. is anybody here ?
10:29 Calinou hi
10:29 Calinou celeron55 is still taking a break
10:29 Calinou cy1 did some work on the game, with public key authentification.
10:30 Calinou darkrose did metadata stuff recently
10:30 Calinou (branches; not added into official game yet)
10:30 Calinou the metadata stuff has been included, yes
10:30 Calinou not the public key auth
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10:44 art hi
10:45 * art is listening to: " - "
10:46 Anchakor good band brah
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10:46 art_ sory i was testing android client for irc
10:47 art_ and i see is no good .. >.>
10:50 art_ i was having prolem with conection so i will ask once more is here somebody online or when they can be back form dev team ?
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11:16 art So still no one here?
11:16 brobostigon hi art
11:17 art Hi do u known some thing about dev team?
11:18 brobostigon can you be more specific, please. that is a very ambigous question.
11:20 art :-) yep somebody invite me to gitbucket few days ago
11:20 Calinou github, not gitbucket
11:20 Calinou don't mix github and bitbucket :<
11:21 art O right I mean bitbucket
11:21 Calinou bitbucket is no longer used for MT since 1 year ago
11:22 art Yep I realized its old,
11:24 art I hate this phone >< I'm writing from Android so plz be patient
11:24 brobostigon have you not got one, with a physical keyboard?
11:25 art I'm using Swype on screen
11:28 art So back to topic, it's some dev doing on? Or simply some small work for me
11:29 art ?
11:29 brobostigon that sentence doesnt make sense, sorry.
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11:33 art Irc on phone is not good idea :-[
11:34 art I didn't got answer if there was any
11:48 brobostigon i use connectbot, to connect to my servers screen + irssi. and it works very well.
11:55 art My I'd
11:55 brobostigon my phone has a proper physical keyboard though.
11:56 art Sry. Irc client is working nice I just have problems with writhing
11:57 brobostigon yes, that is the touch screen keyboard problem.
11:57 art I have to look for some voice typer
11:58 brobostigon hmmm,
12:00 Calinou <art> So back to topic, it's some dev doing on? Or simply some small work for me
12:00 Calinou make useful, interesting mods
12:00 Calinou or C++ stuff: mobs, weather, biomes, mapgen improvements, 3D models and so on
12:00 Calinou :P
12:01 art ;) so nobody is working on this staff right now ?
12:07 Calinou not really :P
12:09 art OK so I think I will try do some work under 3d animation, at least I was I'll try ;)
12:09 Calinou someone is already working on 3D models
12:09 Calinou :P
12:09 Calinou you could try improving map generation
12:09 Calinou new biomes/etc
12:10 Calinou or weather/mobs :P but these are hard
12:10 art because I still don't know much about engine
12:10 Calinou what would be nice would be map generator moddability:
12:10 Calinou when you create a world, you can select height intensity, sea level, frequency of caves, etc.
12:14 art Hmy.. and 1 more thing somebody told me that 3d items are already done in lua
12:14 Calinou nodeboxes are 3D models for _blocks_
12:14 Calinou not entities
12:15 art So blocks like torch or sings are working already?
12:16 Calinou they're not 3D in the default game
12:16 Calinou only *cuboids* can be done with nodeboxes
12:16 Calinou so, no proper wall torches
12:16 art I see I think I will start from this :D
12:18 art Thx for answers see you
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13:05 art Can somebody remind me name of graphical engine?
13:06 art Ir... what?
13:06 ironzorg irrlicht
13:06 ironzorg you're welcome
13:10 art Thx
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16:44 Anchakor http://www.pathofexile.com/news/​2010-12-20/tile-texture-mapping
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20:44 jordach night all: see ya tomorrow
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22:17 Aerodynamicx Hello
22:19 Aerodynamicx Nobody?
22:19 Bad_Command Hi Aerodynamicx
22:19 Aerodynamicx O.O Its Bad_Command
22:19 Bad_Command Lies
22:20 Aerodynamicx I hear they are in need of willing devs
22:20 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Hi!
22:20 Aerodynamicx So what goes on here?
22:21 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Changes in Minetest, of course :)
22:21 Aerodynamicx Ah cool, I know some C++ but I am no expert. But I am currently learning so maybe I could help out sometime
22:22 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: One of the best ways to get involved is to play and find something you want to add
22:22 Aerodynamicx Of course :) Taking input from the players
22:22 Aerodynamicx So do you need to know LUA to construct mods?
22:23 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: "know" is such a relative term
22:23 marktraceur If you have some experience programming, you should be able to jump in
22:23 marktraceur If you haven't used interpreted or functional languages before, there might be some shocks, but nothing too difficult
22:23 Aerodynamicx Alright then, Just learn the differences in LUA to others and it shouldn't be too hard? No problems then.
22:24 marktraceur Sort of. Functional and interpreted languages are very different from C++
22:24 marktraceur It will take some thought at first
22:24 Aerodynamicx Javascript anything like it?
22:25 Bad_Command Yeah, it is javascriptey
22:25 Aerodynamicx I realize its a scripting language. Just asking to get closer to the idea
22:25 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Almost exactly :) take JavaScript data constructs and Bash syntax, basically
22:25 Aerodynamicx Oh cool, And being a regular Linux user the Bash shouldn't come too hard xD
22:26 marktraceur Well, maybe
22:26 Aerodynamicx So ideas are dicussed here I guess?
22:26 marktraceur Pretty much, yes
22:26 marktraceur And if you need help, this is the place
22:27 Aerodynamicx What kind of help? Dev help?
22:27 marktraceur Yep :)
22:28 Aerodynamicx Trying to start up a little multi-player server has been murdering me all day. I have tried all these different methods and looked at forums on the subject and all.. No solution for me
22:29 Aerodynamicx I'm getting frustrated
22:29 marktraceur Sorry to hear that
22:30 marktraceur Are you getting errors?
22:30 Aerodynamicx No, Just when I try to connect. I get nothing
22:30 marktraceur Odd
22:30 Aerodynamicx I connect as "localhost" after going through the procedures and all. It has no problem resolving the adress. Just no connection. It sits there saying connecting forever until I stop it
22:31 Aerodynamicx Then when I connect directly to my external IP adress I get the same thing
22:32 marktraceur Odd.
22:33 Aerodynamicx I try using 127.0.0.1 as my connection, (Because its hosted on my own computer/IP.) I get the same thing yet again. So i try connecting to my Internal IP and yet again its the same
22:35 Aerodynamicx Is there any configuration files or something I need to setup, modify or build?
22:36 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: Not really, no. So you build, then you go to the minetest directory and ./bin/minetestserver?
22:37 Aerodynamicx I am using Windows for this. So I can use 0.4.  I was going to use Linux and 0.3 but I decided to try it here after failure there
22:37 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: You can use 0.4 on GNU/Linux
22:38 marktraceur You might have to compile it, but it's relatively simple to do that
22:38 Aerodynamicx Ah, Should I switch OS real quick and get Minetest 0.4 on there so you can guide me through this?
22:38 Aerodynamicx Ill be back in a min
22:38 Aerodynamicx I have to do something
22:39 marktraceur Aerodynamicx: I would strongly suggest using GNU/Linux, yes
22:53 Aerodynamicx Alright back, Switch? (I know Linux can be really good with web dev an all.) Let me switch
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22:56 Aerodynamic Back
22:56 marktraceur Hello again :)
22:56 Aerodynamic Now I have signed onto my Linux. What now? Previous instructions have failed me. So please tell me what to do.
22:57 marktraceur Aerodynamic: Do you have the code already?
22:57 Aerodynamic If this fails. Then that is just that.
22:57 Aerodynamic The code? For 0.4 Oh yeah forgot that
22:58 Aerodynamic Can you tell me where to get the 0.4 code?
22:58 marktraceur Yep!
22:58 marktraceur Aerodynamic: Do you have git installed?
22:58 Aerodynamic I dont think so.. Would it be in the software center?
22:59 marktraceur If you're on Ubuntu, `sudo apt-get install git-core`
23:00 MiJyn or if you want all of the bells and whistles: sudo apt-get install git-all
23:00 Aerodynamic Na I will just keep it to what I need. Unless I decide to expand it for some reason
23:00 Aerodynamic So obviously git-core already has a binary for Linux?
23:01 marktraceur Yep
23:01 Aerodynamic Okay so what next?
23:01 marktraceur Once you have it, cd into whatever directory you want to use
23:01 Aerodynamic For Minetest 0.4?
23:01 marktraceur Yeah
23:01 marktraceur For example `cd ~/projects`
23:02 marktraceur You may need to create the directory first
23:02 marktraceur Once you're there, `git clone https://github.com/celeron55/minetest.git`
23:03 Aerodynamic Should I create the directory right on the surface? Like Desktop. Or should I go a few dirs/sub-dirs in?
23:03 NakedFury chistron1
23:04 NakedFury ignore that
23:04 marktraceur Aerodynamic: It's up to you, just wherever you want it stored :)
23:05 Aerodynamic Okay so no particular issues?
23:05 Aerodynamic When I follow the link I get 404
23:05 marktraceur What link?
23:05 Aerodynamic The one you posted
23:05 marktraceur No, don't follow it
23:05 Aerodynamic To github
23:05 marktraceur Run the command `git clone <url>`
23:05 Aerodynamic Oh yes of course
23:06 marktraceur Where URL is that URL
23:06 Aerodynamic Command line -_- I noticed that right before you said
23:07 Aerodynamic Okay I have cloned into minetest
23:07 Aerodynamic Now?
23:08 marktraceur `cd minetest`, then `less README.txt
23:08 marktraceur `
23:08 marktraceur Read the README section entitled "Compiling on GNU/Linux" (or similar)
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23:10 marktraceur There should be a command in there for installing dependencies, you should do that
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23:13 Aerodynamic Alright I am gonna have to come back another time because I have to go
23:13 marktraceur AOK, best of luck

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