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Blockhead256 |
I think we can agree that this post https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=440541#p440541 is an AI ripoff of wheat8's right? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> will give a response when the forum loads in 8 decades |
| 04:33 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ah, good old 504 |
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Blockhead256 |
classic |
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Blockhead256 |
well when a brand new account joins and writes a "new game concept" that reads like ChatGPT and wheat8 comments "wow this looks like my idea that I posted yesterday", it could hardly seem more suspicious |
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Blockhead256 |
just wanted a second opinion before I go and banhammer indiscriminately though |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ill say sure, totally - even tho ive never seen it |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i suppose worse case if you sucessfully get the forum to load enough to ban them and them to also see the ban status, they can come here and ask |
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Blockhead256 |
yeah that's just it, I doubt such a thing would happen, these AI "writers" are all fly-by-nights |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Now now, it was very difficult to type that 7 word prompt |
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shaft |
Where's the linux version of luanti? What's taking so long? Did the name change cause any package names to change? |
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MTDiscord |
<_devsh_> @luatic done |
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sfan5 |
I think you need to ask the people who "make" the linux version, not us. |
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shaft |
rubenwardy made ubuntu releases |
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shaft |
up to 5.9.1 |
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rubenwardy |
Launchpad git imports weren't running last I tried |
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shaft |
So the site isn't working right? |
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shaft |
sad. I hope you'll get it fixed |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> There do seem to be fresh daily builds (which seem to just be 5.10?): https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds |
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NQN |
hey folks -- i want to do the luanti game jam but I'm somewhat confused about the rules -- it says not to base your entry off and existing game, but does that apply to the core Minetest Game as well? And it says libraries and boilerplate are allowed--does that include using mods? Like if I want mobs, it seems like I would either use the Mobs mod or |
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NQN |
I'd be doing a ton of from-scratch work for a basic feature. |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> You can't use minetest game, but you can use extracted parts of minetest game, such as using the defripper mod to collect the node definitions for decorative nodes from minetest game. You can use the mobs api, but you should use the api with your own custom mobs. Does that make sense? |
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NQN |
yeah. I just found the Void game which claims to contain nothing -- that seems like a decent starting point just to get the directory structure generated for me? |
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NQN |
my idea is way too big to make in the jam time without mixing/matching mods more freely, so I just need to save that idea for later |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I made an operating system for the last one lol |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> YOU GO MAKE THAT GAME! |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Even if it doesn't get finished, submit it, broken, finish it later |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> People have submitted games that were pretty heavily based on MTG in the past (e.g. I think Occupy Moon) and while they haven't been outright disqualified, they did not fare well in the scoring. "Just another MTG soup" is not what audiences are looking to see in a jam game, and with an existing framework that dominating, it's hard to inject enough real originality in the core gameplay to make it stand out positively. |
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NQN |
can I get an invite link to the Discord? I would have joined the Discord instead of logging onto IRC if I knew there was one haha |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Anyone can find the Discord invite on https://www.luanti.org/get-involved/ |
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Krock |
IRC is the way to go. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> We have taken another one of your users |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Chat platform rivalry is a waste of time and energy 😒 |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> We have the chat bridged because our focus is Luanti first and the chat platforms are just along for the ride. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> https://tenor.com/view/dog-puppy-alien-abduction-ufo-chinese-meme-gif-12647093585077850974 |
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NQN |
now I'm in the discord and I can't find the bridge channel |
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NQN |
oh maybe because I didn't do the things |
| 17:48 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> You can't access that until you become an elite mod developer supreme |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Also you have to talk a lot |
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Warr1024 |
Discord has some conveniences which matter a lot for some users, and very little for others. It comes with some annoyances, like the platform's constant shilling of paid services, and some risks, like the fact that it's controlled by private parties. Even if Discord is right for you, definitely remember IRC as at least a fallback. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Yeah, the bridge channels aren't available immediately to new users to mitigate spambot risk. |
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NQN |
It's been such a long time since I started learning a new engine from scratch. I gotta get over my ego and acknowledge that I know nothing and need to start at the basics |
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NQN |
(pathetic :P ) |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Well sfan5 and jeija had to teach me how to use the print function so I think you're probably further ahead than that |
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NQN |
I haven't typed any Lua yet |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> GASP |
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NQN |
I'm just letting myself get overwhelmed and complaining about it |
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NQN |
the journey of a thousand miles starts with astronomical ambition and a full-blown mental breakdown, as they say |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> https://onecompiler.com/lua/ quickly use the print function |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> jordan: i never want to see onecompiler.com again |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Fine twocompiler.com |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585 |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I usually just use gdb online when I need to translate C to fortran and double check |
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<jordan4ibanez> But I have used that onecompiler when writing bits of scrap code, what is wrong with it? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i vaguely remember it being shit for lua. (also their branding really puts me off) |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Well dang, you gotta try real hard to mess up the simplest scripting language |
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shaft |
@luatic yes but I use the stable branch. I don't suddenly want to be updated to some dev version |
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shaft |
In terms of Flatpak vs Appimage I prefer AppImage too. https://github.com/An0n3m0us/Minetest-AppImages/releases showed it's possible to build appimages of minetest |
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shaft |
*Luanti |
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Mantar |
quick question, how high does something have to be before it stops casting a shadow? |
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erle |
Mantar you might want to specify if you think of the voxel light value or dynamic shadows |
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