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ireallyhateirc |
Probably the best thing about renaming Minetest to Luanti is that MTG will now lose popularity or at least its failures won't be directly linked to Luanti. |
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ireallyhateirc |
Actually now when MTG is optional and distinctly named from the engine, it doesn't actually matter what happens to it. It could even become the top game in the universe and it wouldn't matter because it doesn't work as the project's scarecrow anymore. |
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ireallyhateirc |
If I was in charge, I'd probably donate the repo to a random mod soup maintainer decided by a coin toss :D |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> MTG isn't vital to the engine anymore but there's still a big ecosystem around it, and people still benefit from it being managed carefully. Anyone can make an alternative from it but there will probably always be a niche for a version of it that stays compatible with every mod that exists for it today. |
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ireallyhateirc |
yeah, that's the rational point of view, but running a social experiment by donating the repo to some random dude would be funny to see. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> It could actually work on some level, as anybody else could just make a stable fork. It would just be a bit confusing to have the name follow the unstable fork instead of the stable one. Though we could just retire the name entirely too... |
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someuser2 |
hi |
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someuser2 |
can you tell me, is minetest GAME changed name to luanti, or it's only about engine? |
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orwell96_t |
@someuser2 acording to the blog post, minetest game will keep its name. |
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noyno |
thx |
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celeron55 |
ireallyhateirc: i've handed off MTG to essentially random people multiple times already i think. but i don't think it will happen anymore |
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whosit |
there's no way to get arbitrary click events from the formspec, right? (like, to make a clickable map) |
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whosit |
besides making it from tiny buttons? :p |
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rubenwardy |
Only way would be to make invisible buttons |
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whosit |
I'm too lazy to position them by fiddling with coords, I hoped I could just click on the map and place my POIs |
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whosit |
or, at least, get the right coords |
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whosit |
a general map editor for any city would be nice too, but oh well |
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MTDiscord |
<goodclover> I've wanted clickable images -> coords too, like HTML's 1st imagemap feature. Maybe worth opening a feature request. |
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MTDiscord |
<goodclover> tbh, I just really want the dynamic UI system Manyland had 😄 |
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MTDiscord |
<goodclover> layers of "items" with textures, which can change their texture at will, can be dragged to any arbitrary position if not locked, react to being clicked etc. allows you to create UIs, tabletops, inventories really easy |
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Thermoriax |
So, is there actually a mod that adds armor to minetest? I appear to be overlooking it. |
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yes |
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https://content.minetest.net/packages/?type=mod&q=armor |
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3d_armor seems to be a common one: https://content.minetest.net/packages/stu/3d_armor/ |
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Blockhead256 |
Thermoriax: Yes, it's called 3D Armor |
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SwissalpS |
3d_armor, lavastuff, moderator_armor, obsidianstuff, technic_armor, ... |
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Thermoriax |
Blockhead256: ah, I thought that was for displaying asrmor. |
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Blockhead256 |
well it includes stands too, but yeah, mostly for players |
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Thermoriax |
SwissalpS: Yeah, I don't want x_armor, I just want simple armor made out of basic metals. |
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Blockhead256 |
of course, base MTG comes with 0 mobs, so I hope you have some of those |
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Thermoriax |
I do. |
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Thermoriax |
I could have sworn the base game included armor too. But I started mining and have started running into the mobs. |
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Blockhead256 |
I think 3D armor is so called because it affects the player model, unlike the default wielding items not showing up (there's a mod for that too, wielditem) |
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Blockhead256 |
visible_wielditem by LMD |
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Blockhead256 |
base game MTG does not have armor, with no mobs there'd be no point |
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Blockhead256 |
I assume you're not playing Mineclonia or something |
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Thermoriax |
no |
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Blockhead256: there'd still be a point: PvP and maybe fall damage if armor affects that |
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Blockhead256 |
yes, true, PvP. But I don't think it affects fall damage, I've read the source before |
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Blockhead256 |
actually I might be wrong about that too, I don't think it checks for an attacker or anything |
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Blockhead256 |
not that it makes a whole lot of sense, but even older versions of Minecraft worked like that |
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Blockhead256 |
anyway MTG never needed excuses not to have stuff, that was always kind of its thing, to not actually have anything in the base game (or at least it became that early on..) |
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Thermoriax |
hmm, well that works, thank you. |
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Thermoriax |
now I need to move all the torches that didn't hurt before. :) |
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SwissalpS |
hangglider helps against fall damage |
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SwissalpS |
also cussions and boats ;) |
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Blockhead256 |
I think ethereal makes the torches hurt.. some random mod that it feels like has no business anyway |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/serverlist: Rework domain verification a bit (#67) 6edaa91 https://github.com/minetest/serverlist/commit/6edaa913159e0ec4fde7ec88282bed98ca06149f (2024-10-22T20:53:17Z) |
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\o` |
When did python get added as a language? |
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\o` |
commit looks fine (I only glanced at it though) |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> That's the serverlist server, separate from the engine |
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\o` |
oh, I didn't know that was in the repo. Now I do :) Thanks |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Irrlicht: Use EGL over GLX (#15286) aa27311 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/aa273119f292e52df8d99f663df5337bac31556d (2024-10-22T21:04:46Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Zughy -> minetest/minetest: DOCS: replace Minetest -> Luanti, `minetest.` -> `core.` (#15292) d52e4cd https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d52e4cdbdb2e40a3774756ea5e168cc70b50c4fb (2024-10-22T21:05:41Z) |
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\o` |
line 152 should probably have a break after it |
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\o` |
it falls through to default at the moment so it works but if someone refactors... |
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\o` |
or is that intentional? If it is then a comment |
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\o` |
referring to 152866 |
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sfan5 |
no, not intentional |
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noyno |
hello, guys, I want to make mods for luanti, and already asked about it(maybe even here). I started learn lua through official site(https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html), but wonder, where is to get some experience? Trying to code mods or better to try lua somewhere else? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> See rubens book |
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\o` |
I did a bad thing. I installed windows 11 in a VM and activated it |
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\o` |
I just thought I'd share that to get it off my chest |
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\o` |
where should I paste some C I wrote? |
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\o` |
is ideone ok? |
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\o` |
https://ideone.com/joH9bi |
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\o` |
this is the extent of my mental condition :( |
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\o` |
https://ideone.com/NF40eY |
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\o` |
ugh wrong channel |
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wsor4035 |
noyno: in case you hadnt found it: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/index.html (was on mobile previously) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> \o`: obviously that code is fast because it was written in C. |
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\o` |
it's very fast |
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\o` |
99 frames per second |
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* cheapie |
gives luatic some more code, this one written in (68k) assembly so it's even more fasterer: https://gist.github.com/cheapie/710d2af6387e37fa6207acd460d689f3 |
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cheapie |
Or rather it's in assembly because I needed to test all of the RAM, which is tricky if the program is using some of it. |
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