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IRC log for #minetest, 2024-10-14

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01:40 cheapie I ended up ordering a faster CPU, maybe this'll help run Minet^WLuanti better. The video card I got a few weeks ago /did/ help but not a lot, mostly just made the slowdown from the eye-candy options (which I normally leave off) less extreme.
01:57 \o` what CPU?
01:58 \o` My CPU has so many bug mitigations I'd probably be better off with a M6502
01:58 specing up from Pentium3 to Pentium4 ?
02:08 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> You stole my easily exploited joke and it will cost 15 bitcoins to get it back
02:12 swift110-mobile Are you folks using powerful machines to run minetest?
02:17 specing I use a core2duo supercomputer (j/k but it does serve as backup in a pinch)
02:18 specing a laptop megaframe (made of one laptop)
02:18 \o` I don't know if my machine is powerful ... model name      : 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700K @ 3.60GHz ... MemTotal:       65657576 kB  ... NVIDIA Corporation TU102 [GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Rev. A]
02:19 specing Slow, half of all Muhammads in subsaharan africa have a faster PC, \o
02:19 * \o` bursts into tears
02:21 \o` I have no intention of upgrading anything. I'd like DDR5 but meh
02:21 \o` I can't find a new CPU that's meaningfully more performant that doesn't cost $20 million
02:22 specing IBM POWER9? POWER10? They're only a few thousands each
02:23 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> im using an old electric dryers embedded motherboard with a few pins bridged and its stable for the most part but i have to hit it with a dry sock or it might crash. Its great and my $6 costco fan really keeps it chill when playing Minetest.. i mean Luanti.. at 6 frames a minute.
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02:25 \o` I was looking at AMD CPUs just a few days ago but nothing that I can afford is compelling
02:27 \o` and even if I spent a lot I'm not sure it'd make a difference. I use the computer mostly for GIS not minetest :) I think I'll wait another year or 2 to upgrade
02:27 specing AMD is only competing with intel at who can design a more broken chip
02:28 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> *slaps roof of old electric embedded dryer motherboard* This bad boy can a couple bytes a second
02:28 \o` they both seem broken at this point in time
02:28 \o` which is why I'll wait
02:28 specing My thoughts exactly!
02:28 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> i think the uglier a cpu gets, the better
02:29 specing typing those from a core2duo gen2 with broken suspend2ram
02:29 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> or rather, the faster
02:29 specing this*
02:29 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> i.e. modern arm chips have an instruction to work with javascript floating point
02:29 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> which is actually pretty smart
02:30 specing Do they have div cores and emoji cache, too?
02:30 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> Lol
02:30 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> i remember people memeing about the web based processing unit like the gpu but its kinda happening
02:30 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> *web processing unit or WPU
02:30 specing https://p.mort.coffee/UO3.jpeg
02:31 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> lol
02:31 cheapie \o`: I'm on a 2700X now, ordered a 5950X, which AFAIK is the fastest thing for AM4 (much like the 2700X was when I bought it...)
02:31 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> i would unironically love to see more stupid pci bullshit like this like for audio and stuff or media production
02:31 cheapie swift110-mobile: You kind of have to, it's a slideshow otherwise
02:32 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> operating system specific CPU and software CPU
02:32 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> actually for security this could be cool but extremely overdone and wasteful of motherboard place
02:33 \o` 5950x is probably similar to my cpu
02:34 \o` which is fine for the next 2 years at least unless something amazing happens
02:36 cheapie cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs: DM&P actually makes something like that, they have one chip with two cores that run as two independent computers.
02:36 cheapie https://www.vortex86.com/products/Vortex86EX2
02:37 specing most CPUs nowadays are like that
02:37 specing about ~10 independent "computers" per real computer
02:38 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> your meds sir
02:38 cheapie If you're counting the ME/PSP/etc., sure, but the idea behind this one is that you can run two OSes /of your choice/ on it at the same time, each on their own system.
02:38 specing even the trackpoint on this thinkpad apparently has an 8051 inside larping it as a PS/2 mouse
02:38 cheapie One of the examples they give is for some kind of machine control application - run an RTOS on one side for the real-time bits, and Linux or something on the other for the UI.
02:39 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> that's cool yeah
02:39 specing I need meds = hardware documentation
02:39 specing cheapie: that's what e.g. the hexagon DSPs on snapdragons are meant for
02:40 specing the problem is that this cool tech is locked away behind undocumented hardware and firmware signing
02:40 specing so we can't do cool stuff with it
02:40 specing (in general, no idea what the situation is with hexagons)
02:42 cheapie DM&P doesn't lock their datasheets down /too/ much, they are somewhat reasonable to get.
02:50 specing DM&P?
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02:56 cheapie The company that makes the Vortex86 CPUs
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06:36 Topic for #minetest is now The official Luanti (formerly Minetest) channel | General, player and modding discussion is on-topic. If in doubt, post here | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: https://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: https://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: https://irc.minetest.net/minetest
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07:44 MinetestBot [git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Show warning in the settings menu when shaders are disabled (#15272) 7435ea0 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7435ea0d4eae807bfd88e27fbee4521e336af367 (2024-10-14T07:43:29Z)
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08:26 BuckarooBanzai congrats for getting through with the rename, i like the new name :)
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08:55 ireallyhateirc is it just me or does "Luanti" sound like an Italian shoe/clothing brand?
08:56 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> shh, you're spoiling the surprise, that was supposed to be a secret until the first lineup is revealed!
08:58 ireallyhateirc lol, lmao even
08:59 ireallyhateirc getting an upgrade from some guy's test to an exclusive clothing brand is still net positive!
09:08 MTDiscord <warr1024> It's definitely something from an Olive Garden, though I'm not sure if it's on the menu, the wine list, or the parking lot.
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12:11 ireallyhateirc is the logo going to change along with the name?
12:11 rubenwardy no
12:12 ireallyhateirc yeah I just saw it in the blog post too
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12:45 ireallyhateirc btw were there any alternative names you considered?
12:46 ireallyhateirc like top 3 or something
12:52 MTDiscord <luatic> yes
13:08 ireallyhateirc and those are?
13:46 Soni wait what happened?
13:47 ROllerozxa luanti happened
13:51 Soni ooh nice blog post
13:57 Soni congrats on name change
14:24 Ingar so we all move to #luanti now ?
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16:56 angry_hd Test
16:57 MTDiscord <angry_hd> Perfect
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20:09 MinetestBot [git] kno10 -> minetest/minetest: Trivial improvement to `get_item_group` (#15260) 6431ef7 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6431ef7324a36cc0752de30b9e96eb2dadda1b58 (2024-10-14T20:09:01Z)
20:09 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Disable SDL2 for 5.10.0 (#15284) 6d7a519 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6d7a5197407460515b68e1ca18052c124b2fe15b (2024-10-14T20:09:11Z)
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20:41 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/serverlist: Report delayed errors (#66) 3d08cd4 https://github.com/minetest/serverlist/commit/3d08cd4ff4856f5d363f96347411854f4b3599fb (2024-10-14T20:39:09Z)
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21:54 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/serverlist: Fix some complaints from pylint a8a9d92 https://github.com/minetest/serverlist/commit/a8a9d920771709285e5372c10d4559680c80fd35 (2024-10-14T21:54:06Z)
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