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01:27 swift110-mobile hey all
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08:57 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Various improvements to push_json_value cbc741f https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cbc741f4642fc644948f74239ed35f7f4ecb0d16 (2024-10-13T08:57:25Z)
08:57 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Update jsoncpp copy to 1.9.6 dbbe0ca https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/dbbe0ca065b3fff86398d64156ade42de97b57f7 (2024-10-13T08:57:25Z)
09:29 MinetestBot [git] y5nw -> minetest/minetest: Gettext and plural support for client-side translations (#14726) e3aa79c https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e3aa79cffb51bcf794ec9c6271d26849783b69d1 (2024-10-13T09:29:08Z)
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12:13 Guest35 shader effectsd are nce!
12:13 Guest35 when new animations!?/
12:13 Guest35 is minecraft really being tested ?!
12:15 Guest35 also when does fortnightest release ?
12:19 ireallyhateirc Minecraft? This is Minetest.
12:19 [ what is fortnightest?
12:20 ireallyhateirc also what do you mean by animations, animations are game-specific and Minetest became a voxel game engine recently
12:20 Guest35 Re:[Minetest not Minecraft]: We must know the enemy
12:21 Guest35 guys clearly here fornitest is the next step on minetest
12:21 Guest35 we did one game
12:21 Guest35 time to do the other one
12:21 Guest35 whos on board ?
12:21 ireallyhateirc Minetest (the engine) supports animation for models, there are some bugs with animation blending iirc.
12:21 Guest35 also fornitest must have animations
12:22 Guest35 so its possible to make fornite in minetest (fornitest) and we can play ?
12:22 ireallyhateirc I'm not sure what do you mean. Not sure if you're joking or trolling at this point
12:22 Guest35 Sam skin for Fortnitest? \o/
12:23 Guest35 (im trolling, lil bro here on my elder brothers laptop lololololol)
12:23 Guest35 BT, is wayland ready on Nvidia? Planning on buying a new lappy
12:23 Guest35 *BTW
12:25 ireallyhateirc anything new should work I guess? But then I'm clueless and still on X11 so I don't know.
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12:26 Guest35 so it cant run fornitest ?
12:26 Guest35 thats craZ
12:27 Guest35 must be an irc hater type thing
12:28 Guest35 i luv myslf~
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13:49 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> This is a robbery
13:50 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Give us the name
13:53 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Fix local animations not working (was broken in 06907aa) 067a5b5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/067a5b5ac3225183ad5b44684cbf3ea101314fa2 (2024-10-13T13:48:39Z)
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16:41 MinetestBot [git] cx384 -> minetest/minetest: Fix HUD inventory direction position ecf8488 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ecf8488406e8b2bd25aac007856360789f08b101 (2024-10-13T16:40:29Z)
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21:31 cheapie In today's episode of "real-life problems that are apparently a problem in MT too now", https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-10-13%2016-28-07.webm (loud)
21:31 cheapie I guess it's useful to know it's a pull station, but... which one? :P
21:35 cheapie I ended up just silencing the thing so it would quit making so much noise, the building owner can deal with it.
21:40 GreenXenith It's finally time. After years of deliberation, Minetest is finally ready to adopt a new identity and prove it has moved beyond its original purpose. We can finally move past the "mining" and the "testing" and focus on making this platform the best it can be. https://blog.minetest.net/2024/10/13/Introducing-Our-New-Name/
21:42 ireallyhateirc OurProduction
21:44 cheapie That's a.... strange name, but better than most of the stuff I heard suggested at least
21:45 ireallyhateirc we'll get used to it, better than "<Whatever>Craft", "Mine<Something>", "Build<XYZ>", etc.
21:46 ireallyhateirc in the end it's baby duck syndrome all over
21:46 cheapie Yeah, most of the suggestions I heard people come up with were some of those format things, those mostly all sucked
21:47 cheapie This one is at least not worse than "Minetest", which I /thought/ was a pretty low bar to hit until I saw some of what people were coming up with.
21:48 sfan5 behold my new proposal: LibreMinr
21:49 cheapie ...yeah, most of them were like that
21:49 ireallyhateirc if they had named Minecraft "AssembleExcavate" instead, people would feel nostalgic to this name and there would be mythology around the name
21:50 MTDiscord <freeagaintodoasiplease> nodecore
21:50 ireallyhateirc one pitfall is reading Luanti as Lu-anti which makes you wonder what's "Lu"
21:50 ireallyhateirc but I respect the finnish pun
21:51 sfan5 we did not define a pronunciation...
21:51 GreenXenith "Lu-anti" is how I pronounce it
21:51 cheapie I assume the minetest→core alias will be kept for at least a major release or two, but even then it's just a find+replace type thing anyway
21:51 GreenXenith Removing the minetest alias would be a breaking change, so that wouldnt happen until 6.0 (and even then, its cheap to keep around)
21:52 cheapie Yeah, 6.0 or 7.0 sounds about right to me for something like that.
21:52 ireallyhateirc Luanti sounds like a name for fancy coffee brand
21:52 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> Luanti is some shit id find at a gas station with 8mg nicotine
21:52 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> sick name
21:53 sfan5 GreenXenith: with a pause?
21:53 cheapie sfan5: I would kind of like to see an official pronunciation defined, at the moment I'm torn between two different ones, mostly involving the specific sound the "a" makes
21:53 GreenXenith No pause, the - was just for syllable separation
21:54 sfan5 right
21:54 MTDiscord <cscscscscscscscscscscscscscscscs> im kidding really its a cool name but i keep thinking of luatic
21:54 cheapie Also I can see the misspellings ("Lunati") already, but nobody can apparently spell the name of this IRC network either, so... *shrug*
21:55 ireallyhateirc in Polish I'd read this like 'Lu (as in luna) and
21:55 ireallyhateirc I pressed enter.
21:55 sfan5 I would expect it to follow straightforward pronounciation that many European languages share (not the mess english has)
21:55 ireallyhateirc 'an' - like animal, and 'ti' - as in tin
21:56 sfan5 ...yea
21:56 sfan5 well actually
21:57 cheapie My first attempt was to pronounce it like it's in Spanish, which gave me more of an "ah" sound for the A, which sounds fine to me, but so does ireallyhateirc's version, and that's different
21:58 ireallyhateirc english google translate pronounces it as "luuadi" for some reason lol
21:58 cheapie I don't have any real preference for one or the other, but I don't want to end up pronouncing it one way and have everyone else pick the other one.
21:59 cheapie Also TBH as far as reading it out loud goes, this is probably better anyway, every time I said "Minetest" out loud everyone heard "Mind Test"
21:59 cheapie I think that might happen with The Other Game™ too, I've seen "Mindcraft" written before
21:59 ireallyhateirc yeah time to test your sanity :D
22:00 ireallyhateirc MeinKraft
22:00 sfan5 I'm thinking of a different "an" sound which I'm no sure exists often in English
22:01 sfan5 not*
22:01 sfan5 let me check IPA
22:01 nekobit what are we thinking of sfan5test
22:02 [ I pronounce it as "loo anti"
22:03 cheapie [: Yes, but with which "a", the one English would put there, the one Spanish would put there, or something else?
22:04 ireallyhateirc imo english should rework the writing system
22:05 cheapie ...well, yes, but I think that's outside the scope of this project :P
22:05 sfan5 so the english a in "an" is [ɛ]
22:05 [ The one English would put there
22:05 sfan5 i am thinking of [a]
22:06 ireallyhateirc english does it again
22:06 [ which is [a]
22:06 ireallyhateirc so like enimal instead of animal?
22:07 ireallyhateirc luenti
22:07 sfan5 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio heres a thing
22:07 [ I pronounce animal with [a]
22:07 cheapie sfan5: So if I'm understanding this right, a like "ah"? That was my first guess, actually
22:08 sfan5 oh thats obvious
22:08 sfan5 yes
22:09 ireallyhateirc I guess no matter what we do people are going to misspell it at some point lol
22:09 [ it's going to get misspelt as lunati
22:09 cheapie I had a file somewhere where I was collecting misspellings of "Libera", I might end up needing one for this too.
22:10 sfan5 lutina
22:10 ireallyhateirc either way, I liked the old cringe name but this is also decent
22:10 cheapie "Librea" was a common one for Libera, so was "Libra" and "Libre"
22:10 ireallyhateirc and the name change is bound to make some people angry which is a quality by itself
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22:12 cheapie luanti.org seems to just be a parked domain right now, is it just not set up yet or is this the wrong domain?
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22:13 sfan5 former
22:14 [ The only one I've seen is "Liberia"
22:15 MTDiscord <goodclover> I always get Libera and Libre mixed up
22:15 cheapie [: I've seen a whole range of one-offs in addition to those common ones... including, yes, "Labia"
22:16 cheapie The worst part is considering the context, I don't think it was intentional
22:17 MTDiscord <luatic> all your lua is belong to me
22:18 * cheapie dumps roads on luatic... you can keep that one, but I'm keeping celevator :P
22:26 ireallyhateirc luajitnti
22:28 ireallyhateirc well at least explaining "minetest game" to people will be easier now
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22:47 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Chaos
22:47 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Chaos and rambling
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23:38 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Luantic

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