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* cheapie |
pokes at an old RPi 1B, a copy of minetestserver, and Dreambuilder |
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cheapie |
Time to see if the server manages to start up before the swapping kills the SD card :P |
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cheapie |
2024-05-19 07:27:11: WARNING[Server]: Server: Maximum lag peaked at 571.37 (steplen=0.02) |
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cheapie |
hmm |
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Amino |
question for lua gurus |
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Amino |
why can I freely use somestring:split(" "), but not sometable:insert(foo)? |
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Amino |
the latter errors until I replace it with table.insert(sometable, foo) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> because :split is in the metatable for strings, while insert isnt for tables |
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Amino |
wsor4035 thanks. is this metatable set in lua proper or in minetest? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> string in proper lua has this metatable, split is a method minetest adds |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> somewhere in builtin |
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Amino |
okay, thanks very much |
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Amino |
indeed, string.split is not in the standard lua string library, I missed that |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> see https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#13 for metatables in lua |
| 15:04 |
Amino |
yeah thanks, I have that open in a tab |
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Amino |
would be nice if I could use all kinds of table ops with the ":" notation in minetest without having to go through explicit metatable hoops though |
| 15:05 |
Amino |
it works dandy for vectors |
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Amino |
have to declare vars as vector.new of course |
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Amino |
maybe having a table.new is kind of weird given how tables are a polyformic basic lua structure |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> not exact sure of the terms, but string has a master/main type in lua, so adding metamethods is easy, tables doesnt have that master/main type, so you have to add the methods per table instance. vectors get around this by having vector() and vector.new() which creates the vector tables with meta methods. you could create some util function that returns you a function with all your meta methods |
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Amino |
? vector() is a thing? I thought vector is a table? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its just table with meta tables and functions added to it |
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Amino |
allright |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Amino: You do not want tables to have a metatable set by default because that would result in surprises. Say you had a table of words, for example. t["insert"] would now be the table.insert function rather than the data associated with the word "insert". |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> If however you know that you're only going to use a table in a list-like fashion, you could simply set the appropriate metatable, as wsor said. |
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ireallyhateirc |
I invented a new joke name for Minetest/MineClone/whatever: ExcavateAssemble, you know like MineCraft :D |
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ireallyhateirc |
Renaming MineTest to YourProduction would be also quite funny |
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Amino |
luatic: yes, I figured that too. |
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Road_Killer |
Amino |
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Road_Killer |
Acid |
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Road_Killer |
Oops |
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Road_Killer |
I was studying |
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Amino |
aminoacids aren't very acidic actually |
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ireallyhateirc |
you spelled out my intrusive biochemical thoughts, thanks |
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Amino |
they're zwitterions |
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Road_Killer |
Sorry for ping vore- I mean Amino guy! :) |
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ireallyhateirc |
depends on the definition of acid you use I guess |
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Amino |
lewis acid or bronsted acid |
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Amino |
superacid |
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Road_Killer |
Funny name, Amino. |
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Amino |
New question, about chat commands |
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Amino |
in a chat command, some text is written using minetest.log |
| 18:24 |
Amino |
but somehow it is also written to the chat, with a timestamp and [server] prepended to it |
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Amino |
how do I stop the message from appearing in chat? |
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ireallyhateirc |
you could change log level from "error" to "action" or something |
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rubenwardy |
see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5.8.0/minetest.conf.example#L2572 |
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rubenwardy |
also it only appears in chat when in singleplayer or hosting the server |
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Amino |
rubenwardy thanks |
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Amino |
though it has me stumped that this did not happen in an earlier iteration of the script that I wrote. |
| 18:30 |
Amino |
I have no idea what changed this, my only guess is that it started to write to chat after I impemented return values for the function in the chat command |
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Amino |
also, I searched around quite a bit, but could not locate the info you, rubenwardy, just gave me |
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Amino |
is the detail that this is restricted to singleplayer/hosting server documented anywhere at all (apart from snippets of wisdom on #minetest)? |
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Amino |
ireallyhateirc: I have it at "none" (that is the default) |
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Mantar |
it's documented right there, in minetest.conf.example, which ships with minetest |
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Amino |
sure, it's also "documented" in the source code |
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Mantar |
huh? it's a setting, all settings are listed in minetest.conf.example, that's the documentation for settings. where else should it be? |
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MTDiscord |
<theidealist> Meintest |
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shaft |
What's the state of the modern V6 mapgen Trailgen? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/13019 |
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PoochInquisitor |
shaft: Stfu |
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shaft |
rude |
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Mantar |
looks like it's stalled, waiting on a second review, as he's made the changes v-rob requested but seems like nobody's looked at it since |
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Mantar |
*added v-rob's fixes |
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shaft |
Sad. I like v6 because of the scale but it doesn't generate sandstone, new materials and plants and has no biome api. |
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Mantar |
it really just needs somebody to remember to look at it, so poking folks here on IRC was a good idea. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Mantar, please look at it |
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Mantar |
I suppose I could, but I meant somebody on the dev team. I have loads of Exile stuff on my to-do list that needs attending to. (And my C++ is rusty, lol) |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Port it to rust |
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Mantar |
lol |
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shaft |
Everyone likes more dependencies :) |
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PoochInquisitor |
Jordan: oof |
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ireallyhateirc |
Rust got C++sy |
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sy |
yes |
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mazes_84 |
hi all, can I have an explanation about runsy being banned ? it annoys me a bit as I was using one of his mod (petz) |
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mazes_84 |
I've seen he also closed his github. |
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ROllerozxa |
mazes_84: runs was permanently banned from CDB due to repeated copyright infringement |
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mazes_84 |
ok, so maybe thing to take care of if I at any point decide to maintain my own version of petz (I don't feel brave enough yet) |
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shaft |
Somebody asked me about petz support for Blood Splatter once. I guess it must be popular. What is the infringement about? Code, models or textures? |
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MacroFaxSax |
shaft |
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shaft |
What? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Models and textures are at least known |
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