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IRC log for #minetest, 2024-03-06

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00:04 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> The difference between gnome and KDE is KDE apps have stupid names, gnome apps have stupid workflows
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00:07 Scribble2 lols.  Gnome2 was fine, why they had to go & change your desktop into a phone is beyond me
00:10 Scribble2 not digging Wayland.  thought latest & greatest, yay, the future is here boys...  but it's a let-down 'cuz ya can't link one laptop to the next with Synergy / Barrier / Lan-Mouse.  thinking of going back to X11 with it
00:13 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Wayland is about ready for production as I am ready to go into the WWE
00:14 Scribble2 lols, you been training in the backyard all these years huh?
00:16 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Oh yeah BROTHER
00:30 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Many missing features in Wayland, not as stable
00:33 Scribble2 that's what I've heard.  the fact that it won't follow your mouse or keyboard is supposed to be a security FEATURE, but I find it more of a hinderance.  wish there was a setting in there that let you turn it off.  they could even give you a warning like "are you sure you wanna break your computer?"  yes, I'm sure...
00:35 Scribble2 I feel like every YouTuber / Twitch streamer etc, who's ever used those HUD apps that show which keys you're tapping while playing would miss out
00:36 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> It kind of prevented key loggers maybe? I'm sure there's still exploits
00:38 Scribble2 yea.  that's the idea behind it anyway.  just wish they left it up to you, to decide how ya like to use your PC
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03:27 swift110-mobile Sup folks
03:28 Scribble2 'sup
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03:36 swift110-mobile How r u Scribble2
03:38 Scribble2 back's aching, but doing OK.  trying to get back in that programming mode, but feel like my brain's running as fast as molasses
03:43 swift110-mobile Oh, I understand my back was hurting the other day. In fact it was yesterday and I’m just really glad to get that pain went away.
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05:13 swift110-mobile Scribble2: what r u up to
05:14 Scribble2 nearly asleep, was watching a youtube "Game Development with LÖVE 2D and Lua – Full Course"  https://youtu.be/I549C6SmUnk
05:15 swift110-mobile Col
05:15 swift110-mobile I’m just watching YouTube
05:15 Scribble2 it's a bit slow, drifting off.  really want a milshake.  think I'm gonna grab one, vanilla, sprinkle some cinnimon & ginger in there
05:16 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Mhm mhm, we got a serious case of sleepy in here
05:16 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> https://tenor.com/view/puppy-tired-tired-puppy-doggo-cute-puppy-gif-9446132869263243239
05:16 swift110-mobile Oh wow
05:16 swift110-mobile I’m wide awake
05:16 Scribble2 aww
05:17 swift110-mobile I feel great
05:17 swift110-mobile Just planning on moving to another apartment. Looking forward to this being over.
05:23 Scribble2 moving can be exciting, wears ya out tho
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11:24 swift110-mobile Yeah Scribble2
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17:04 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Reorder ObjectProperties struct 585ca90 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/585ca90ae0620dc8fd4dd7afb4ca3af433efbec7 (2024-03-06T17:03:57Z)
17:04 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix some common SAO methods to not generate useless update packets c524c52 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c524c52baa5456cff87127b3c4c41b5758b91c7a (2024-03-06T17:03:57Z)
17:04 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Move PlayerSettings class to client code badd427 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/badd42789af375193a187e5c72552649b56f28a1 (2024-03-06T17:03:57Z)
17:07 MinetestBot [git] y5nw -> minetest/minetest: Try to preserve metatable when exchanging data with the async env (#1… fc80f65 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/fc80f65a6d958b730af869399b131c84b0b6f72a (2024-03-06T17:04:49Z)
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19:36 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Fix attached sounds stopping if objects are removed serverside (#14436) bf52d1e https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/bf52d1e6242607440bfa35d6e81e5909e0c46977 (2024-03-06T19:36:02Z)
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21:35 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Reduce translations log spam d88f086 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d88f0866b74e7a010e93233c067871c462edca78 (2024-03-06T21:33:32Z)
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22:08 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/serverlist: Drop support for announce via GET 78e6c48 https://github.com/minetest/serverlist/commit/78e6c48c85bd691ef4c7310bce347d724b36b4c2 (2024-03-06T22:07:08Z)
22:13 Scribble2 trying to remember what langiages you can write plugins in HexChat.  think you can do Lua, but it wasn't as well documented as whatever lang they prefer, was it Lisp, Python..?
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22:16 Mantar python, lua, and perl
22:17 Scribble2 oh i C...  that's too much for my wee brain to think about right now.  I'll whittle away at that thought process over the next week or so.  maybe try something easy like a MadLibs script on Love2D to begin with.  need caffeine in me.  who's got some Dr Pepper?
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22:19 Scribble2 I used to have one that I made that when ya ping me it would give up a menu of things to do, like random oh, I don't remember some kinda random reply.  the thought was to make it into a tiny IRC game
22:20 Scribble2 maybe it's on github.  been so long, prolly lost to the ages.  think the hardest part was getting a menu for the items.  gtk or some-such
22:25 Scribble2 Simple IRC Chat Bot for HexChat - https://gist.github.com/doyousketch2/d7a00b54f8e5a398898eac2bcb058993
22:44 swift110-mobile Hey Scribble2
22:45 Scribble2 'yo.  need food in me, oh what's in the kitchen?
22:47 swift110-mobile lol actually I have plenty of food at home
22:48 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Well we got blocks, with a few blocks on the side
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22:48 Scribble2 yum!  think there
22:48 Scribble2 think there's some soup, gonna grab a bowl'ah that
22:49 swift110-mobile Cool
22:50 swift110-mobile I’ll likely cook when I get home
23:04 Scribble2 all out'a block-soup...  had the 'tato-variety, of slow-cooked warmth.  with some cornbread on the side  :)
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23:19 swift110-mobile sounds good
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23:33 Scribble2 yea, think I'm going back to X11 tomorrow, when my brain's running again.  can't even screenshot in flippin' Wayland, wtfunk
23:34 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Wayland is poop and no one believes me
23:36 Scribble2 uh huh.  saw a vid the other night where the guy was showing it off, but his cursor was off like 100 pixels the entire time, and there was some other visual glitch in there somewhere.  just not buying that it's ready for prime-time.  https://youtu.be/aUXexJ2np_w
23:36 MTDiscord <luatic> Scribble2: you can screenshot on wayland, you just need to figure out how
23:36 ROllerozxa I tried wayland a week or two ago and it went well until I realised there is absolutely no way of recording the screen in wayland because of some excuse of security
23:36 MTDiscord <luatic> there is a way!!
23:36 Scribble2 lols, yea - hold my camera up to the screen?
23:36 MTDiscord <luatic> you just need to use your OS's / DE's built-ins
23:37 MTDiscord <luatic> on Ubuntu i can get to those by pressing the "print" key
23:37 ROllerozxa luatic: what's the "DE built-in" equivalent for OBS huh
23:38 MTDiscord <luatic> well if by recording you mean streaming then idk
23:38 MTDiscord <luatic> but just to record screen videos yes also print
23:38 ROllerozxa what
23:38 Scribble2 I'm just sick of struggling.  life's been too d'mn hard already.  these are the 2000's, we're supposed to be in flying cars & beyond such squabbles with my desktop
23:38 ROllerozxa OBS can record video
23:38 MTDiscord <luatic> there's also some combo but i can't remember thhat
23:38 MTDiscord <luatic> ROllerozxa: so can GNOME
23:39 ROllerozxa I don't care about GNOME
23:39 MTDiscord <luatic> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1215081316819931166/Screencast_from_07-03-24_003904.webm?ex=65fb73a9&amp;is=65e8fea9&amp;hm=2e2383447cd8599201d6deef88bb8758dff613f479b0d9b61d4d1a8310d14f0b&amp;
23:39 ROllerozxa I just want my OBS
23:39 MTDiscord <luatic> well, what DE are you using?
23:39 ROllerozxa none of your business
23:39 Scribble2 oh, I can record, with uh... some "Amazing Screen Recorder" plugin on my Brave browser, but for whatever reason you can't just hit PrtScrn and get a snapshot
23:39 MTDiscord <luatic> it hopefully has some built-ins for recording the screen
23:40 ROllerozxa anyways SSR didn't work either
23:40 MTDiscord <luatic> Scribble2: of course applications can record themselves
23:40 MTDiscord <luatic> because that's not a security problem
23:40 MTDiscord <luatic> ROllerozxa: because simple screen recorder is also an external application with no special privileges
23:41 Scribble2 this one's Plasma 6.  it's decent, but I feel like it struggles on Wayland.  I'll see if X11 fixes things, but my head's aching to attempt that right now
23:41 ROllerozxa luatic: why can't I grant it privileges
23:41 MTDiscord <luatic> ah yes the combo was Ctrl+Alt+Shift+R supposedly
23:41 MTDiscord <luatic> ROllerozxa: uhm uhm idk
23:41 ROllerozxa why do I need to embed a screen recorder into the kernel or something to give it privileges
23:41 MTDiscord <luatic> just go use Ubuntu where it just werks
23:42 ROllerozxa I might as well switch to windows at that point
23:42 Scribble2 ditched Win10 for Arch already, not about to distro-hop
23:43 MTDiscord <luatic> ROllerozxa: supposedly it is "worth noting that OBS studio with the obs-xdg-portal extension can also flawlessly screen record" according to some people on reddit
23:43 Scribble2 got sick of Win10 nagging me to upgrade to Win11
23:43 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Do it now
23:43 MTDiscord <paradust> upgrade to Linux
23:44 MTDiscord <paradust> oh they did already
23:44 ROllerozxa luatic: why the hell do I need to install gnome just to get OBS to work
23:44 Scribble2 I did, it's so much faster.  blazing, webpages such as https://civitai.com/images just fly when ya scroll through 'em now
23:45 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> You actually should install openSUSE for OBS
23:45 Scribble2 Win was laggy.  hated it, but dreaded the struggle of repartitioning & all that
23:47 Scribble2 love that website.  wanna generate some voxel images on there sometime

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