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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-12-24

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03:48 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Does minetest use self-signed certificates for it's connection?
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09:24 MTDiscord <paradust> there's no encryption on the udp connection
09:28 MTDiscord <paradust> SRP challenge is used for the password authentication step, so it doesn't leak the password if someone is snooping...but a MITM would be able to hijack the connection
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11:21 rubenwardy SRP is a PAKE so results in a shared key, if that was used for encryption/signing then you wouldn't be able to MITM. But it's not
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12:42 MinetestBot [git] jeremyshannon -> minetest/minetest_game: Bed bugfix: Remove "reverse" toggle in favor of swap_node/set_node co… 43185f1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/43185f19e386af3b7a0831fc8e7417d0e54544e7 (2023-12-24T12:41:26Z)
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13:14 sfan5 was mod_storage per-world or global? the docs don't explain this
13:15 sfan5 hmm maybe
13:15 sfan5 !book mod storage
13:15 MinetestBot sfan5: Storage and Metadata - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/map/storage.html
13:15 sfan5 it doesn't say either :(
13:20 sfan5 answer: it is per-world
13:25 MTDiscord <mistere_123> ... that probably should be documented
13:28 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Put it into the ancient scroll
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17:57 MTDiscord <paradust> rubenwardy: it won't prevent MITM unless you have some way to validate the keys (like a certificate hierarchy)
17:58 MTDiscord <paradust> hm wait
17:59 MTDiscord <paradust> nevermind, i'm wrong
18:00 MTDiscord <paradust> It can prevent MITM after a password is agreed upon, but not before
18:02 MTDiscord <warr1024> The lack of server authentication is still a bit concerning, but it does sound like it'd raise the barrier significantly for abuse, so if we found a good datagram-appropriate protocol to wrap MT traffic in like DTLS or wireguard or something, and a way to actually integrate it, I'd support this and I think others should too.
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18:58 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Well C55 here's the basics of the network, works pretty dang well https://youtu.be/Dfw7fqK9ueQ
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