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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-09-29

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00:08 erle_off_ice i am pretty sure the (surprisingly nice) german translation of the hamilton musical contains the line “girl i want to drink your bath water” though
00:08 erle_off_ice in german
00:10 erle_off_ice muurkha regarding belle delphine … i am more into career boys than egirls: https://onion.tube/watch?v=MDDukLyXY-M
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00:39 muurkha ew
00:39 muurkha the bathwater, that is
00:40 muurkha we should have a corporal hygiene mod.  your cleanliness bar gradually diminishes until it starts dropping your health
00:40 muurkha until you take a bath
00:45 erle_off_ice well wh
00:45 erle_off_ice why don't you make it?
00:46 erle_off_ice cora once made a global warming mod i think
00:46 erle_off_ice where using a furnace eventually raised the sea level
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09:19 dibesfer hi
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14:04 jonadab I mean, a lot of mods add hunger, so why not thirst?
14:05 jonadab Poison ivy that makes you itch, and you have to rub up against trees to relieve it.
14:06 jonadab Somebody has probably made a mod that makes you take damage from being cold if you spend too much time around snow.
14:14 calcul0n i never found thirst mods very interesting as managing it is more or less the same as managing hunger
14:15 calcul0n so you just have to do the same thing twice and lose one more slot in your inventory
14:16 MTDiscord <mecha_moonboy> At that point I might question what the mechanic is even for. I believe that every hunger/thirst mechanic should offer substantial benefits instead of brutally punishing the player. Why is 2 hunger systems better than 1?
14:23 lissobone Remember that south park episode when the whole aquapark got flooded with piss?
14:23 lissobone Drinking piss allows you to swim in it.
14:23 lissobone (At least that's what the dude in the episode implied.)
14:26 lissobone Generic water-only thirst mechanic would be much boring.  Different watery solutions should induce different effects.  Actually, not all drinkable things should contain water: the player should be able to drink any fluid (in the physical sense: including gases).
14:26 lissobone My Belorussian classmate used to joke about "eating air".  If only she knew!
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15:07 MTDiscord <mecha_moonboy> I think alchemy and cooking/brewing can be very fun mechanics, but the design must be extremely deliberate.
15:07 lissobone Since I've read some of SICP (and still going -- it's an amazing book for all hackers), I know some very important things about program design.
15:08 lissobone The things that many miss.
15:09 lissobone One should first describe the process most superficially: then describe individial procedures named in there, and so on, until you reach the most simple ones.
15:09 lissobone The importance of this decomposition strategy is not simply that one is dividing the program into parts.
15:10 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Ohh lissobone hello!
15:10 lissobone hi
15:10 lissobone Howdy, fellow man.
15:10 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Nice to see you again
15:11 MTDiscord <maintainer_> So, how's your progress?
15:11 lissobone Yes, describing alchemy wouldn't be trivial.  But following the advices from SICP it would be much more efficient.
15:12 lissobone uhmm sorry let me check the scale
15:12 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Young chemist
15:13 lissobone maintainer_: the scale displays a grim number of 79 kilograms; I used to be 78.
15:13 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Kilogram...
15:13 lissobone I am not sure if the progress has been negative or positive.  However, I look as slim as never, so it's likely but muscle mass.
15:14 MTDiscord <maintainer_> If only I had another 20 cm and I would be two meters...
15:14 lissobone Size isn't everything.
15:15 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Basketball is enough for me to stay in shape
15:15 MTDiscord <mecha_moonboy> As a game designer/dev I always look at things from the balance between the experience something creates in-game, how it effects the other systems (feature creep, power creep, etc), and the difficulty to execute the feature. It's very very often I find that a game could benefit from a feature being radically simplified or completely removed.
15:15 lissobone And I have favored cycling.
15:16 lissobone Yes, a genius admires simplicity while an idiot favors complexity.
15:16 MTDiscord <mecha_moonboy> For example: Bane of Arthropods
15:17 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Sometimes you overdo it with complexity, there’s no point
15:18 lissobone For example, `while' and `for' loops are close to useless.
15:19 MTDiscord <maintainer_> lissobone: Do you see new names from Discord or old ones?
15:19 MTDiscord <maintainer_> Actually they are needed...
15:21 lissobone They only complicate the program.  Lua supports tail recursion, like in Scheme -- a very powerful dialect of Lisp, the language God used when creating the world, programming evey being, great and small.
15:21 lissobone 🤓🤓eggshelly they are needed🤓🤓🤓🤓
15:22 lissobone maintainer_: I don't see anything different, your nickname is static.
15:23 MTDiscord <maintainer_> With a capital letter or with a small letter?
15:24 lissobone All-lowercase.
15:25 MTDiscord <maintainer_> So you see new nicknames...
15:35 lissobone No I don't.
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15:45 MTDiscord <maintainer_> :V
15:51 MTDiscord <luatic> lissobone: it is a widely recognized fact that god hacked the world together in Perl (source: XKCD)
15:54 MTDiscord <luatic> also note that Scheme provides macros for loops; the "do" loop macro is what would effectively be a "for" loop in C-family languages
15:55 MTDiscord <luatic> this is useful for the same reason let is useful: as syntactic sugar - you don't want to be working in lambda calculus
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20:32 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix bed night skip race condition (#3067) 3494233 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/34942339c7588cbaf3cbaab3facbe57feaa00e88 (2023-09-29T20:31:13Z)
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22:51 MTDiscord <mistere_123> Is it possible to set the heat and humidity of a point via lua?
23:14 sfan5 no

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