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imi |
hi, what's the difference between minetest.after and core.after? which one is preferred and why? |
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rubenwardy |
They're exactly the same, and minetest is preferred |
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rubenwardy |
core is undocumented and used internally to make it easier to share engine code between minetest forks |
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Kionite |
Hello! |
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Kionite |
how can I craft cobblestone in skyblock? I playing this mod https://minetest.org/skyblock/ |
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Kionite |
I know I can smelt Dirt into Cobblestone but I don't have enough Dirt either. |
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Kionite |
I'm so confused |
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rubenwardy |
eek, that's a malicious domain |
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Kionite |
what? |
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Kionite |
It's official minetest website afaik |
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rubenwardy |
https://www.minetest.net is the official website |
| 15:51 |
rubenwardy |
anyway, I don't know the answer to your question |
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muurkha |
(because minetest is of course a network service provider) |
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rubenwardy |
(yeah shame c55 didn't grab the .org or .com before others did) |
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Kionite |
It provides source code on github(https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/). So I hope it's not malicious |
| 15:53 |
Kionite |
Though last commit was 3 years ago |
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muurkha |
it's at least a little questionable to call your fork of Minetest "Final Minetest" |
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muurkha |
> The Minetest project started in 2010, became well-known in 2012, and peaked in 2015. It split into four main groups after that. Due to conflicting goals it's fading away today. However, there are still interesting MT worlds online and the program is genuinely fun to mod. |
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muurkha |
> This site discusses the different types of Minetest with a focus on Final Minetest, the most advanced branch. Source code for a new release of Final Minetest will be posted here as this site is redone. |
| 15:55 |
muurkha |
it deprecates the main project as follows: |
| 15:56 |
muurkha |
> 1) Trolltest aka minetest.net — This project breaks worlds, has poor backwards compatibility, and is largely obsolete. |
| 15:57 |
muurkha |
is there a more serious way in which the site is malicious, other than just being run by an asshole with a grudge against mainline Minetest? |
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rubenwardy |
I don't know of any malware on that domain but the owner has talked about adding spyware. It's malicious because it's been used to send bulk spam, harassment, and post personal information |
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muurkha |
aha, I see |
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muurkha |
pretty gross |
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Blockhead256[m] |
"Minetest is dying" - Man with grudge against Minetest, who is responsible for creating an even deader Minetest fork |
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rubenwardy |
take a look at the privacy policy for proof |
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muurkha |
it doesn't actually say he's going to send bulk spam and harassment and post personal information |
| 16:25 |
muurkha |
it says pretty much the same thing most website privacy policies say, but with a lot less words |
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Blockhead256[m] |
not really, it means OldCoder can keep the logs and do a lot of things with them in perpetuity, including telling anyone he wants to about the contents. That isn't a privacy policy that respects the visitor, it's one written by a paranoid individual who wants to root out any dissent and claim as much as possible to have some kind of flimsy legal ground for not removing your content like deleted forum posts off his forum mirror or |
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Blockhead256[m] |
deleted mods off his gitea. |
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rubenwardy |
exactly |
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Blockhead256[m] |
it could only be considered a normal but more brief policy for something where you are the product like Facebook or Discord. Not for a trustworthy community project. |
| 16:42 |
muurkha |
didn't we go through this from the other side with kilbith the other month? not removing open-source mods the author wants to delete is explicitly allowed by the irrevocable nature of open-source licenses |
| 16:43 |
muurkha |
he does sound a bit paranoid, but the things he's promising to actually do are just the things that normal people normally do, like keeping copies of email you send them even if you wish you hadn't sent it |
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muurkha |
or block your IP if you're DoSing his site |
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rubenwardy |
mods don't tend to be personal information |
| 16:45 |
muurkha |
hopefully he doesn't have anybody's personal information |
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rubenwardy |
in the past he's usedvisits to his website to try and deanonimise people |
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muurkha |
what a jerk |
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rubenwardy |
postly that publicly |
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