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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-05-04

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07:20 MTDiscord <luatic> Peter_Lankton: It's MIT-licensed (see CDB). Should be on the repo as well though. Will fix.
07:22 MTDiscord <luatic> See the Readme: "Licensed under the MIT License." I've additionally pushed a license file now.
07:30 MTDiscord <luatic> as for the scaffolding: fixed in https://github.com/appgurueu/disable_build_where_they_stand/commit/c373967293da608e7d9ff336c1d8ab1f25a7f330 by adding a small bias; scaffolding is a literal edge case :P
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10:08 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Is it true that irc is never coming back?
10:18 ROllerozxa the good ol' days of IRC are probably never coming back, yes
10:21 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> A final salute from the discord irc bridge
10:21 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> cries
10:24 rubenwardy I mean   https://xkcd.com/1782/
10:28 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> No the irc will be here for another few million years, I was talking the discord side
10:36 Oblomov yeah, I'm going nowhere
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10:40 TenPlus1 Hi folks
10:40 TenPlus1 wsor4035: you around ?
10:42 ROllerozxa might be too early in the day
10:43 TenPlus1 ah, no worries :P   hi ROllerozxa btw
10:43 TenPlus1 needing a ContentDB admin to check something
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10:54 ROllerozxa hi, I presume you're coming to ask about invisiblocks? :P
10:54 ROllerozxa it's odd, I would have considered to make an exception in this case considering the mod it shares its techname with is a decade old and lost to time due to filehost bitrot
11:04 TenPlus1 thanks for the assist ROllerozxa, <fingers crossed> things will work out :)
11:04 TenPlus1 laters all o/ coffee time
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16:05 MTDiscord <Warr1024> jordan4ibanez: I can confirm that as things stand right now, yes, IRC is never coming back.  If it ever leaves, though, then it may become possible.
16:06 Peter_Lankton @luatic thx for those fixes. im gonna test that mod on my server now.
16:06 Peter_Lankton so what is the best way to compare 2 tables to make sure they contain the same content? right now i use dump() on each one then compare the strings. which works fine. but i wonder if there is a better way.
16:09 MTDiscord <Warr1024> That works fine until it doesn't, i.e. if key order changes.
16:10 MTDiscord <Warr1024> The method I usually use is to scan the pairs in table 1 and make sure they match in table 2, and then scan the pairs in table 2 and make sure they match with table 1.  To be properly thorough, the "do they pairs match" is itself a recursion of the "do the objects match" check (include trivial equality for non-table types).
16:11 Peter_Lankton true. i just thought about that after i sent that message. it seems to work so far though for nodebox tables.
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16:52 Peter_Lankton maybe the minetest.write_json() would be better. i could be wrong but it appears to sort the keys alphabetically.
16:54 MTDiscord <Warr1024> It might do that empirically but JSON requires no such guarantees, and I'd be skeptical of any promises you're assuming that the API is making.
16:55 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Also, serialization for comparison purposes can be a bit needlessly expensive.  It's not that hard to write a deep-compare function, and you can probably fund dozens of working examples out there...
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17:18 RhineDevil Compiled minetest 5.7.0 with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=FALSE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE -DBUILD_CLIENT=FALSE, moved minetestserver in ~/.local/share/minetest and games are in ~/.local/share/minetest/games and I keep getting this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d5b812e5/
17:19 RhineDevil tl;dr it doesn't find mineclone2 even if it's in ~/.local/share/minetest/games
17:19 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> I don't think it checks there
17:20 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> if you want to put the binary next to the games and such, you should do RUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE
17:27 RhineDevil MTDiscord: but I've tried putting it in the places it searchs
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17:52 Peter_Lankton @Warr1024 i guess i will stick with what i am doing until i have issues with it. then look for a deep-compare example to use if i must. as for expense, im not that worried about it since the comparisons are only done at server start once all mods are loaded and nodes are registered. Anyway thx for all the help guys. With that, i think my anti noclip mod is done. if anyone wants to see it, it's here https://bowels-of-the
17:52 Peter_Lankton .macrofox.org/git/mt-server-mods/anti-noclip
17:52 Peter_Lankton lol it split my link
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19:51 MTDiscord <PrairieWind> I am running 5.8.0 master, and I keep getting these lag spikes that seem to only affect me. For 1-2 seconds at a time, fps drops to 0.
19:51 MTDiscord <PrairieWind> any idea what I should do?
19:53 MTDiscord <PrairieWind> shders are off, and culling is bfs
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21:02 jordan4ibanez[m] Does this work?
21:06 RhineDevil 2023-05-04 23:06:24: ERROR[Main]: Game specified in default_game [mineclone2] is invalid.
21:06 rubenwardy that means it's not installed
21:09 RhineDevil rubenwardy: how is it not installed? It's in games/
21:14 jordan4ibanez[m] Is it a folder within a folder?
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21:19 Peter_Lankton so i created another forum account so i could lurk on the login-required boards. why do they even require a login? are they supposed to be like more toxic 4chan style boards or something? i notice the heated threads get moved there.
21:20 jordan4ibanez[m] Bots everywhere
21:23 Peter_Lankton yeah there were a lot of bot accounts. i snitched on them a few days ago and appguru banned them.
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