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IRC log for #minetest, 2023-01-19

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02:28 DeepThgt ok, anyone know how to temporarily change my minetest.get_player_information(name).lang_code
02:29 DeepThgt currently its en, which is my native language. I want to test to see if i set up chat_translator properly
02:29 FavoritoHJS you can change it in the advanced options
02:31 DeepThgt oh duh
02:31 DeepThgt ty
02:31 FavoritoHJS you need to restart for the config change to apply
02:32 DeepThgt ah bueno, muchos gracias! mi juego está ahora en español!
02:33 muurkha copado, che
02:33 DeepThgt sweet it works!
02:33 DeepThgt now to file a small bug report, chat_translator doesnt show what you have said in chat
02:33 DeepThgt :/
02:34 FavoritoHJS i suggest having a command to turn off the translator for those who prefer to have the game in x language but talk directly in y language
02:35 DeepThgt ya i don't know lua enough to make that happen sadly
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06:22 lissobone HURRY UP AND [Buy]!
06:26 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> You might be able to fetch google translate with the http thing in the api and live translate back and forth
06:28 lissobone Google translate?
06:28 lissobone Pfffttttt.
06:28 lissobone Me and the free boys use paper dictionaries.
06:28 lissobone Just kidding, we use libretranslate.
06:31 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> THAT'S even better!!
06:31 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> You could definitely turn that into an instant translation mod!
06:31 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Even if just a client mod
06:32 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> The people are already running a server, they can just plop that in like an irc chat plugin!
06:32 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> https://github.com/LibreTranslate/LibreTranslate#auto-detect-language :O
06:35 lissobone It's also better because you can host it yourself and not rely on the big brother.
06:36 lissobone Or even run it on the same device where minetest server is.
06:36 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Yes, a minetest server is already a server, most computers have more than one core, run it on the server host
06:36 lissobone This will allow one to reach minimum latency.
06:37 lissobone Though this might be negatively compensated if the hardware isn't powerful enough to translate quickly.
06:37 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> I don't think that any server that isn't powerful enough to translate some words is going to be running a MT server any time soon
06:38 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Unless someone is spamming, the server does not need to constantly process the stream, it comes in chunks
06:51 lissobone Spamming?
06:51 lissobone I recall that players are limited to 8 messages per second.
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15:16 DeepThgt jordan4ibanez you know that translation mods exist already right
15:16 DeepThgt https://github.com/Droog71/chat_translator
15:16 DeepThgt i got this working last night
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15:36 FavoritoHJS Is there a way to check if a certain crafting recipe exists? As I want to add a "cook dirt into dry dirt" recipe but that would conflict with Ethereal's "cook dirt into extra-dry dirt" recipe
15:36 FavoritoHJS and I need to check if the recipe exists so I don't register my recipe in that case.
15:42 FavoritoHJS found it, `get_craft_result(input_object)` works
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18:17 FavoritoHJS How does aliasing work exactly? Does it preserve the old node name or override it with the aliased node?
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18:31 calcul0n FavoritoHJS, it preserves the old name so you can use both
18:31 FavoritoHJS i meant in the world data
18:33 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> it overrides the old nodes, so when it saves it effectively becomes the new node
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20:38 FavoritoHJS it's happening everybody
20:38 FavoritoHJS the forums are dying again
20:38 sfan5 works for me
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20:45 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Fix concurrency in texture source (#13150) ca13c51 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ca13c510245c695294edc7f78eced6a044e064d6 (2023-01-19T20:44:27Z)
20:46 Warr1024 When you say the forums are "dying" do you mean just going back to the way they were when they consistently took 20 seconds to load because of the rate limiting?
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20:46 Warr1024 It's possible that in the process of fixing the rate limiting, they accidentally broke cacheability or something
20:55 FavoritoHJS probably, especially considering it only happened once and now it's back up to noemal
20:55 FavoritoHJS normal
21:12 ROllerozxa according to the blackbox monitor the forum and wiki are basically worse performing than before, though personally I feel the forums have become slightly more snappy
21:13 Warr1024 In the past, the experience was very different between a naive browser that would have a high cache hit ratio, vs an incognito one that always has to load a bunch of stuff on the first hit.  The blackbox monitor is just fetching one file, IIRC it doesn't load all the prereqs.
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22:16 kabou https://mister-muffin.de/p/t57N.png
22:16 kabou lava flow bug
22:17 kabou lava refuses to flow into flowing water, but only in two directions
22:17 kabou is this known?
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22:35 kabou this is in minetest_game
22:35 kabou https://mister-muffin.de/p/tCkr.png
22:35 kabou same lava flow bug.
22:35 kabou it flows into water in two directions, but refuses in the other two
22:36 DeepThgt lemme see if i can replicate
22:37 MTDiscord <cora> it's scared of water from the + dirs for some reason
22:37 MTDiscord <cora> it will happily flow if you block the water at any point
22:39 DeepThgt ya thats weird
22:40 MTDiscord <cora> https://mister-muffin.de/p/wvYt.png
22:40 MTDiscord <cora> river water
22:40 MTDiscord <cora> same liquid works
22:41 MTDiscord <cora> o wrong screenshot
22:41 MTDiscord <cora> https://mister-muffin.de/p/TgO2.png
22:41 MTDiscord <cora> there
22:41 DeepThgt https://imgur.com/mVLcwBi.png
22:52 kabou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12549#issuecomment-1397713209
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23:14 FavoritoHJS "There is another bug/glitch [...]: It is possible to place a solid node near the player's head in such a way that it clips the player's head into the node" so that's why you can sometimes place a block on yourself
23:15 FavoritoHJS i recall you have to be near the edge of a block, place a block under yourself and oops who accidentally enabled noclip
23:15 FavoritoHJS (actually noclip works without flight, all it does is allow you to place blocks on yourself)
23:19 kabou have to be precise or you'll get suffocation damage
23:19 kabou placing a block at your feet first helps to fine tune the position and prevent damage
23:20 FavoritoHJS well, i don't think suffocation even exists in mtg
23:20 FavoritoHJS at least not without other mods
23:21 FavoritoHJS would normally say why but then i remember that nodes are a glitch
23:24 kabou i don't know either. I tested it once in bare mtg to verify that it is an engine bug and not a mcl thing
23:37 FavoritoHJS ahh yes webp files in png filenames... why does that even exist
23:37 FavoritoHJS both chredge (and probably chrome as well) and firefox use the webp version
23:37 FavoritoHJS even though the url says png and there's no way to switch back to png
23:38 FavoritoHJS internet exploder is the only way to be sure
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