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DeepTht |
yay for runsy fixing fireworkz :D |
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DeepTht |
they only took 2 days to address both of the issues i raised :D |
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MinetestBot |
fluxionary: Jan-11 08:25 UTC <sfan5> it does not |
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DeepTht |
is there a way to keep mobs (mobs_redo) from despawning? |
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DeepTht |
specifically tamed mobs |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> Protection runes! |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> And name tags. |
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DeepTht |
i had used a level one protection rune, and the cat was in my house |
| 02:13 |
DeepTht |
oh |
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DeepTht |
no idea about nametag |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> It might help |
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DeepTht |
thanks |
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DeepTht |
now to find another cat.... |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> A force load block might help too. |
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DeepTht |
ya i have admin world anchor already in house |
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DeepTht |
from technic |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> Ah |
| 02:16 |
MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> Do you play on a server with a lot of people? Because people wall hack and come in your house and kill your animals sometimes. |
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DeepTht |
nah, 2 regular players, and the cat disappeared in 5 min when i went to move my quarry |
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DeepTht |
i literally entered my travelnet box, moved the quarry, came back and no cat |
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FavoritoHJS |
activate block edges, check if the pen crosses blocks |
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DeepTht |
pen? |
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FavoritoHJS |
where the animal is |
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DeepTht |
i dont usually play with mobs so im kinda new to it |
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DeepTht |
it was just roaming freely in my house |
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FavoritoHJS |
did you tame the cat? |
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DeepTht |
yes |
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FavoritoHJS |
fyi, mobs pathfinding is... less than optimal |
| 02:20 |
FavoritoHJS |
they get lost very often, and don't follow you or anything |
| 02:21 |
FavoritoHJS |
it's very possible the cat ran away |
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DeepTht |
i have 2 world anchors in the house, keeping a total of 30 map blocks loaded |
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DeepTht |
unless it can go through walls i dont see how |
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DeepTht |
ofc real cats can break physics too so :P |
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FavoritoHJS |
ah nevermind... |
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DeepTht |
and my house isnt anywhere near 30 map blocks (16 x 16 x 16 right?) |
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FavoritoHJS |
yup |
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FavoritoHJS |
all i can think of is that despawning was reenabled for some reason, maybe the protection rune? |
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DeepTht |
ya i had used a level 1 |
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DeepTht |
not a level 2 |
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FavoritoHJS |
i don't know what that's supposed to do, but it's the only thing that I can think of that could potentially strip a "don't despawn" tag |
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FavoritoHJS |
especially if it was meant more for hostile mobs |
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DeepTht |
iirc they are supposed to protect the mob from hostile mobs damaging them |
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FavoritoHJS |
oh |
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FavoritoHJS |
so i don't think that's it |
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DeepTht |
the only thing i havent tried was a nametag like was suggested |
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FavoritoHJS |
oh wait, i might be thinking of this in a minecraft mindset where there's a specific flag for "don't despawn" |
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FavoritoHJS |
mt doesn't have that, so mobs could be faking it with "armor" |
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FavoritoHJS |
and if the runes mod doesn't preserve existing "armor"... |
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FavoritoHJS |
i might need to look at the sauce |
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FavoritoHJS |
what's the name of the mod that adds the runes? |
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DeepTht |
in game it just says "mobs" but im pretty sure its part of mobs_redo |
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FavoritoHJS |
yup, that's the name |
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FavoritoHJS |
so that shouldn't be the problem as that's a dependency for the mod that adds your animals |
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FavoritoHJS |
i have seen weirder bugs though |
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DeepTht |
ya, i have nothing mob related that isnt _redo or mobs for _redo |
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DeepTht |
i have another cat now |
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DeepTht |
am gonna see if nametag helps |
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DeepTht |
and doing level 2 protection |
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DeepTht |
level 2 protection done, cat named |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> Is it well fed? |
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DeepTht |
the last one was very well fed |
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FavoritoHJS |
that's.. worrying... |
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FavoritoHJS |
i don't see anything in the entity definition that say "don't despawn" |
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DeepTht |
this one is now too |
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DeepTht |
maybe the nametag is significant? idk |
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FavoritoHJS |
wait how does mob spawning/despawning even work on mobs_redo? |
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* DeepTht |
shrugs |
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DeepTht |
im reading the thread now |
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FavoritoHJS |
i assumed it's a mixture of distance and time but distance doesn't seem to matter and time is fixed on spawn |
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FavoritoHJS |
how does it not despawn in a fight or when tamed? |
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DeepTht |
the thread leads me to believe distance is a factor |
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DeepTht |
so i tried to replicate my cat disappearance thing with the changes of using lvl 2 protection, and a nametag |
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DeepTht |
cat is still there |
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FavoritoHJS |
are you sure you tamed the cat? |
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DeepTht |
yes, i cannot pick it up w/o taming it |
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DeepTht |
and the game says when you have tamed it |
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DeepTht |
im gonna stay far away for a bit longer and see if i can replicate. I was actually a bit sad when the first one despawned |
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DeepTht |
which is silly, its a value in a db |
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DeepTht |
lol |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> There's a setting called 'remove far mobs' . |
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DeepTht |
hrm lemme see where that is |
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DeepTht |
i have admin access to the server in question so |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> If true mobs will be removed once a map chunk is out of view. |
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DeepTht |
the map chunks should be active regardless if in view or not |
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DeepTht |
i have world anchors that cover the entire house |
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DeepTht |
if i understand correctly |
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FavoritoHJS |
iirc world anchors obey the maximum forceloaded blocks config, and that's set to 16 by default |
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MTDiscord |
<P€RR!€R> I know I can't imagine that not getting overridden by taming and protecting an animal. |
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FavoritoHJS |
make sure they are all loading all their area |
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DeepTht |
they are, tackling that was a challenge i did earlier |
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DeepTht |
i have set 'remove far mobs' to false, and have to wait to reboot server, i have a player on right now and dont wanna kick them off |
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DeepTht |
so, now i just wait and see if cat disappears. left the server for now, maybe itll be there when i get back |
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lsabino |
how can I setup the distance that player able to put a block? I setting this player_transfer_distance = 10, but I can't no more than 4 |
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lsabino |
I setting this too active_block_range = 10 and active_object_send_range_blocks = 24 |
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rubenwardy |
Don't just change settings without understanding |
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rubenwardy |
Do you mean how far away the player is able to reach to place something? |
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rubenwardy |
That's a mod/game thing, requires lua to change |
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rubenwardy |
It's range in the item definition |
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rubenwardy |
I believe the creative mod increases it |
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lsabino |
rubenwardy I found the explanation about player_transfer and I realize that. As I was adm in my server I was with creative I'm creating a new world and can't reach not more than 4 and I'm with creative priv |
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DeepTht |
lol in trew cat fashion, the cat i thought despawned was in the house the whole time |
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DeepTht |
true* |
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DeepTht |
it just got stuck in a really wierd place |
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muurkha |
where did it hide? |
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DeepTht |
it somehow got up into a small 1x10 area, that has no entrance, where i have mesecon running |
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DeepTht |
i only noticed because i have glass on the topside of that in one spot and it left a hairball |
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DeepTht |
ok it actually was possible to get up there |
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lissobone |
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mrkubax10 |
how can I grant myself certain permission on my server? |
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mrkubax10 |
nvm found it on wiki |
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Blockhead256[m] |
MisterE: you will want to use /emergeblocks to generate a complete area, then you can load it in with the extended view range as long as the server is configured right |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Disable Prometheus in singleplayer mode 8fded9d https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/8fded9d990d1e1142b630b24c96f1a2c959fef36 (2023-01-14T12:11:15Z) |
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Bombo |
why is is possible for players to walk throug each other, like a ghost ;) is there a setting to stop that? is it a bug? a not yet added feature work in progress? |
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sfan5 |
a not yet added feature |
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Bombo |
but planned |
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Bombo |
ok ;) |
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lissobone |
I am in pain. |
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sfan5 |
eat an apple |
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lissobone |
The pain is too powerful to be beaten with an apple. |
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lissobone |
Drastic problems require drastic measures. |
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Bombo |
two apples? ;D |
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lissobone |
I've got wisdom teeth... |
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Bombo |
;/ i see, apples would not help with that |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> Bambo, I seem to remember that you can make players solid by changing their object properties |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> *Bombo |
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Bombo |
MisterE: i would not know how to do that |
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Bombo |
is it possible to change the behaviour of dying? it's too easy, the kids keep killing themselves when they got lost just to respawn in their beds, maybe they could spawn in a special place above the clouds, locked in for a minute before they can come back ;) i guess it could be done altering minetest_game |
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Bombo |
or is there a game that does something like that already? |
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lissobone |
minetest.register_on_respawnplayer() |
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lissobone |
Maybe modify the /kill command. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Bombo: You need to set the collide_with_objects property to true for all players. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Note that this may cause bugs. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> But usually it works surprisingly well. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The most thorough method for preventing players from exploiting death as a cheap teleport is probably what NodeCore does 😏 |
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Bombo |
there is a kill commanmd hehe, but that would prob trigger that on_respawnplayer too |
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Bombo |
lunatic: ok how to set the property? just in minetest.conf? collide_with_objects = true? |
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Bombo |
Warr1024: what's NodeCore (sorry for not knowing) |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> It's a game for minetest |
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Bombo |
ok i'll check that out |
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lissobone |
[Help] |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Bombo: It's an object property. It needs to be set using player:set_properties({collide_with_objects = true}). Setting it in minetest.conf won't work. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> All in all, minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) player:set_properties({collide_with_objects = true}) end) should do the job. |
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Bombo |
lunatic: so not minetest.conf ok, so next guess: i create a new mod? put that line into mods/playercollide/init.lua ? |
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DeepTht |
i cannot figure out how to tame nyancat (dmobs) |
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DeepTht |
i cannot find it in the lua |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Bombo: Yes, you'll have to put this in a mod's init.lua or a file loaded by a mod's init.lua. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] TurkeyMcMac -> minetest/minetest: Improve chat history (#12975) 2f9f0c0 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2f9f0c09001b8fbc6f4559cbfdccf0261f1377a4 (2023-01-14T21:14:37Z) |
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