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FavoritoHJS |
of course the solution to the misteriously dissapearing cat is "sleeping on top of the machines" |
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DeepTht |
lol yea |
| 02:52 |
DeepTht |
ofc now i have one that keeps getting out |
| 02:52 |
DeepTht |
i think the solution is double thick walls tho |
| 02:54 |
DeepTht |
and as far as i can tell, nyancat from dmobs isnt tameable ootb, so ill have to see if i can hack that in |
| 02:54 |
DeepTht |
idk lua really much, but i can compare to a tameable mob |
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DeepTht |
poor runsy must be getting sick of me, ive opened 3 issues on 2 of his mods |
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DeepTht |
this week |
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DeepTht |
my horse just left my mob fence somehow, im guessing the gate breaks it? |
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DeepTht |
ok i found the dragon shit to disable |
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DeepTht |
rebooting |
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DeepTht |
oops wrong channel, sorry for the cussing |
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FavoritoHJS |
i'm guessing there are some precision losses when saving and loading entities |
| 03:12 |
DeepTht |
probably |
| 03:12 |
DeepTht |
crud now i have floating unknown objects lol |
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FavoritoHJS |
i think mob fences aren't affected as they seem to actively push entities out while normal collisions don't |
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FavoritoHJS |
though i might be wrong about that... |
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DeepTht |
i assume /clearobjects would remove all objects right |
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FavoritoHJS |
i'm fairly sure |
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DeepTht |
not just the unknown |
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DeepTht |
:/ |
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FavoritoHJS |
try punching it and it should die |
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DeepTht |
what would that do to tamed mobs |
| 03:13 |
DeepTht |
its flying |
| 03:13 |
DeepTht |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2777 |
| 03:14 |
DeepTht |
ah here might be a solution |
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FavoritoHJS |
i suggest making a backup first, just in case |
| 03:14 |
DeepTht |
ya |
| 03:14 |
DeepTht |
ill talk to the server owner before i do so |
| 03:17 |
DeepTht |
they should just despawn too |
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DeepTht |
so it may be no big deal |
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FavoritoHJS |
i don't think unknown objects despawn |
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FavoritoHJS |
but since they preserve current velocity, they will get away enough to not matter |
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DeepTht |
there is only 2 im gonna log into admin and hit em |
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DeepTht |
ok way more than 2 |
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DeepTht |
i think i got them all tho |
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lissobone |
bybetest. |
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| 14:44 |
latex |
Sometimes I want to play minetest, but then I realize I have to login or register with a password and I worry that if I use the same password I could be opening up my accounts to being stolen, and I don't want to have to open my password manager every time I want to play a game, so I just quit |
| 14:44 |
latex |
Anyone know a solution to this problem? |
| 14:44 |
latex |
Why doesn't minetest use certificates like Mumble or key pairs like SSH? |
| 14:45 |
DeepTht |
overly complicated for people to just play a game |
| 14:46 |
DeepTht |
just append the pw with a unique few chars for each server |
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latex |
But that still sucks ass tbh |
| 14:46 |
latex |
It's just bad design |
| 14:47 |
DeepTht |
passwords are not bad design |
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mrkubax10 |
^ |
| 14:47 |
latex |
You don't want to rely on password authentication. It's so complicated |
| 14:47 |
DeepTht |
i think you are overthinking it |
| 14:47 |
latex |
It's a real hassle |
| 14:47 |
latex |
SSH did it right |
| 14:47 |
latex |
Mumble did it right |
| 14:47 |
latex |
Use certificates or keypairs |
| 14:47 |
DeepTht |
most users wont even bother setting up a key pair or cert to login |
| 14:47 |
DeepTht |
what about being able to log in from several devices? |
| 14:47 |
latex |
Then just auto generate one like Mumble does |
| 14:48 |
latex |
Copy your key or cert |
| 14:48 |
latex |
to that machine |
| 14:48 |
DeepTht |
lol |
| 14:48 |
latex |
jjjjjj |
| 14:48 |
DeepTht |
its a game |
| 14:48 |
mrkubax10 |
if you are really concerned about using the same password just add few characters like DeepTht said and store those passwords in program like KeePassX |
| 14:48 |
latex |
jjjjjjj |
| 14:48 |
DeepTht |
not a server |
| 14:48 |
latex |
oops sorry for spam |
| 14:48 |
muurkha |
there are advantages and disadvantages to using passwords for authentication rather than certificates |
| 14:48 |
latex |
Well what about giving both options? |
| 14:49 |
muurkha |
there are advantages and disadvantages of that too |
| 14:49 |
muurkha |
does Mumble encrypt its voice traffic, by the way? |
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mrkubax10 |
I think that it does |
| 14:49 |
latex |
Yes. All traffic in mumble is encrypted |
| 14:50 |
muurkha |
does it have a constant bit rate codec option yet? encrypting voice traffic without CBR is not as useful as one might like |
| 14:50 |
latex |
The codec is pretty versatile. It uses Opus |
| 14:50 |
muurkha |
that's not what I'm asking |
| 14:51 |
muurkha |
often a passive adversary can learn enough to be harmful about what is being said from the time-varying bit rate even if they can't decrypt the traffic |
| 14:51 |
latex |
I'm not very well known on what Mumble's internals are, but I know it encrypts everything mandatorily |
| 14:51 |
muurkha |
Opus can be used in VBR or CBR modes, like most codecs |
| 14:51 |
latex |
Mumble might be using CBR as you can set the bitrate with a slider, but idk for sure |
| 14:51 |
muurkha |
Thanks! |
| 14:52 |
muurkha |
I'm not a Minetest developer but from my point of view the disadvantage of offering authentication options is that it's another hurdle to get started playing |
| 14:52 |
rubenwardy |
latex: Minetest uses SRP, passwords are not sent to the server |
| 14:52 |
latex |
What does SRP do? |
| 14:52 |
rubenwardy |
it's a proof based authentication algorithm |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
rather than sending the password, the client proves that it knows the password using cryptography |
| 14:53 |
latex |
Hashing? |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 14:53 |
latex |
What then? |
| 14:53 |
rubenwardy |
it's proof based, no hashing |
| 14:53 |
latex |
The only way I know how to authenticate to a server is by sending password, server hashes it and compares to hash in database |
| 14:53 |
muurkha |
well, things that are proof-based can use hashing, but SRP isn't based on hashing |
| 14:54 |
rubenwardy |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Remote_Password_protocol |
| 14:54 |
latex |
Or a less secure way to do it is to hash on client, send to server, server compares, which is susceptible to database leak and everyone is hijacked |
| 14:54 |
rubenwardy |
If you reuse passwords, then a malicious server could man-in-the-middle to then log into another server. But it wouldn't be able to steal the password |
| 14:55 |
rubenwardy |
like, other than cracking it, which is can already do if the password is weak |
| 14:55 |
muurkha |
I don't know what the computational cost of checking an SRP login attempt is or how much of it can be offloaded to the client |
| 14:56 |
lissobone |
If your computer doesn't significantly heat up, the computational cost isn't high. |
| 14:56 |
muurkha |
it's possible to use SRP in a way that strongly defends against MITM as well, but AFAIK you're right that Minetest doesn't |
| 14:56 |
muurkha |
lissobone: that's not true at all |
| 14:56 |
lissobone |
So? |
| 14:57 |
rubenwardy |
RE: the MITM thing - when you connect to the malicious server, it also connects to the target server. You prove you know your password, the malicious server forwards that proof and gets a connection to the target server |
| 14:57 |
muurkha |
lissobone: there's an enormous difference between requiring a CPU microsecond of computation to check a candidate password and requiring ten CPU seconds of computation to check a candidate password, but neither one will make your computer significantly heat up |
| 14:57 |
lissobone |
Ok. |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
The malicious server can only target one other server per log in attempt, as the SRP values will be different on each server |
| 14:58 |
lissobone |
Who will ever seriously conduct a MITM attack in order to steal someone's minetest credentials? |
| 14:58 |
rubenwardy |
and they'll only be able to log in once |
| 14:59 |
muurkha |
lissobone: the MITM attack rubenwardy explained does not allow someone to steal someone else's minetest credentials |
| 14:59 |
rubenwardy |
like, they'll need the client to give the proof for each login as the request changes |
| 14:59 |
rubenwardy |
muurkha: yeah, correct |
| 14:59 |
rubenwardy |
it allows stealing a connection but not credentials |
| 14:59 |
lissobone |
Alright, but who even needs someone's minetest credentials? |
| 14:59 |
lissobone |
Or a connection. |
| 14:59 |
rubenwardy |
so when the connection ends, they can't log back in again |
| 14:59 |
muurkha |
rubenwardy: right, but one of the products of executing the SRP protocol is a DH-like session key which the MITM would not get, and in ideal use of SRP that session key is used to encrypt and authenticate all further communication |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
how would that be transmitted without the MITM knowing? |
| 15:00 |
muurkha |
it's not transmitted |
| 15:00 |
rubenwardy |
is it based on the password? |
| 15:00 |
muurkha |
it's computed independently on the server and the client |
| 15:01 |
muurkha |
one of the inputs to the algorithm on the client is the password; on the server obviously not because the server doesn't know the password, but it does know the data the client sent, which is computed from the password |
| 15:01 |
muurkha |
same as in authenticated Diffie-Hellman |
| 15:01 |
rubenwardy |
"data the client sent" during the last password set/change, I assume |
| 15:01 |
muurkha |
well, yes, but also during the authentication protocol |
| 15:02 |
muurkha |
it's pretty neat, it's explained in the WP page you linked above, though I think the original SRP paper is more readable |
| 15:02 |
muurkha |
so if Minetest used it that way, the MITM wouldn't be able to cause the player to take undesired actions, etc. they'd only be able to cut off the connection or slow it down at chosen times |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
if it's sent during the authentication protocol then won't the MITM get it |
| 15:02 |
muurkha |
the session key is not sent during the authentication protocol; 15:00 < muurkha> it's computed independently on the server and the client |
| 15:03 |
muurkha |
"separately" is maybe better terminology than "independently" |
| 15:03 |
rubenwardy |
but the "data the client sent" is sent during authentication protocol, and the server computes it based on that |
| 15:03 |
rubenwardy |
from what you just said |
| 15:03 |
muurkha |
right, and also based on random numbers that the server generated earlier on in the protocol which are not transmitted or known to the client or the MITM |
| 15:04 |
muurkha |
that's why the MITM can't reproduce the session-key computation the server is doing |
| 15:04 |
rubenwardy |
not sure what you mean but I'm sure it works |
| 15:04 |
rubenwardy |
I guess because MT doesn't have network encryption, it doesn't benefit from this? |
| 15:04 |
muurkha |
it's a real mindfuck |
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muurkha |
that's my understanding, yes. although it would be sufficient to use the session key to HMAC each packet instead of encrypting it |
| 15:07 |
muurkha |
I haven't actually inspected Minetest packet dumps or tried to MITM them, though, so I could be wrong about how well protected Minetest is |
| 15:08 |
muurkha |
(also, I haven't inspected how it uses SRP, and it's possible there's a problem in how it uses SRP that nobody has noticed, and I wouldn't know) |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
est 31 wrote some custom code for it... lol |
| 15:09 |
rubenwardy |
classic |
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Bombo |
minetest could use a pw save function, or at least save the username ;) |
| 16:01 |
muurkha |
good point. you could couple that with an option to generate a strong password, which would require that you be able to export the saved password |
| 16:01 |
muurkha |
that would give you most of the benefits of both password-based and public-key-based systems |
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latex |
Yeah that would be nice |
| 16:18 |
latex |
Also I kind of have trouble finding fun minetest servers |
| 16:18 |
latex |
On Minecraft there was always a way to find servers that were fun but I have yet to find a fun Minetest server. The closest I've gotten is some capture the flag server |
| 16:19 |
latex |
Maybe it also doesn't help that player counts are quite low |
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rubenwardy |
try A.E.S |
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DeepTht |
is there a flag to supress warnings in logs |
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DeepTht |
like " WARNING[Server]: The use of XXX is deprecated" |
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independent56 |
I've just been told to leave Minetest as a direct result of my ineptness at social encounters. Should i to preserve your health? |
| 20:56 |
independent56 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=420627#p420627 |
| 20:57 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I think they just want you to go away from their server thread, assumedly |
| 20:58 |
independent56 |
Yeah, probably |
| 20:59 |
independent56 |
Tempers flare and break bonds, just like fire and methane |
| 20:59 |
independent56 |
And in the flames of this great ware, intoxicating poisions are the last to remain. |
| 21:00 |
independent56 |
But i really need to get to the bottom of this problem |
| 21:00 |
muurkha |
I appreciate your work |
| 21:01 |
muurkha |
Working with other people is always somewhat difficult. Condolecnes |
| 21:01 |
muurkha |
*nc |
| 21:01 |
DeepTht |
i dont think you are the one incapable of socialising from that thread |
| 21:01 |
FavoritoHJS |
you weren't joking when you said "replace everything with boom emoji" |
| 21:01 |
DeepTht |
i think thats actually W3RQ01 |
| 21:01 |
independent56 |
Such is the curse of the echochamber |
| 21:02 |
independent56 |
The wrong cries are the ones which grow louder |
| 21:02 |
DeepTht |
also, i seriously dislike anyone who uses "kiddo" unless talking about their kids or something |
| 21:02 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I haven't followed the entire linuxforks drama, what even happened to create this back and forth in the LF thread |
| 21:02 |
independent56 |
So it seems i found the right echochamber |
| 21:02 |
FavoritoHJS |
from what little remains, seems like it's some you (at least if the 10c/clone thing is real) yet their behavior also leaves a whole lot to be desired |
| 21:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> oh great, this again |
| 21:03 |
muurkha |
probably forming up factions that deprecate one another is not the best solution, because it's unlikely to end with everybody still contributing work to Minetest |
| 21:03 |
independent56 |
I always knew LF was a bad thing |
| 21:04 |
independent56 |
Yeah, my 10 euro cent idea was stupid and madein the heat of the moment |
| 21:04 |
independent56 |
But if Advtrains grows more toxic to me i'll go make "final advtrains" and finally get some peace |
| 21:04 |
DeepTht |
https://github.com/minetest/forum.minetest.net_template1/issues/11 |
| 21:05 |
DeepTht |
this is truly an absurd captcha mechanism |
| 21:05 |
FavoritoHJS |
i suspect a slight lack of room-reading is common there, considering when i suggested to update some mods they said they forked them... so why fork if you won't maintain |
| 21:05 |
DeepTht |
if it wasnt for this thread, the answer wouldnt be readily apparent |
| 21:05 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> DeepTht: what the hell, do people not know the username of minetest's creator? celeron55? |
| 21:06 |
DeepTht |
if you google who made it, you get the real name |
| 21:06 |
independent56 |
It's like that UK citizenship test "you need to know the name of our 10th king to get access" |
| 21:06 |
DeepTht |
and no, i dont know who orginally created half the foss software |
| 21:06 |
DeepTht |
that i use |
| 21:06 |
independent56 |
"You only get to be a citizen of Minetest if you know c55" |
| 21:06 |
DeepTht |
idk why its relevant |
| 21:06 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> searches who made minetest ..."Minetest team", very useful |
| 21:06 |
independent56 |
"minetest team 55" :p |
| 21:07 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> anyways independent56: cut your losses and move on already, it's pretty clear the LF people don't want to have you there so you probably shouldn't try to keep poking them |
| 21:07 |
independent56 |
Good idea |
| 21:07 |
independent56 |
I like Advtrains, but i will make "Final Advtrains" if i have to |
| 21:08 |
independent56 |
I'll even steal the poem from Final Minetest |
| 21:08 |
independent56 |
Oh and also, about the boom emoji, autism can create some quite crazy devotion. |
| 21:09 |
FavoritoHJS |
celeron plz can we have undo message history plz celeron |
| 21:09 |
DeepTht |
lol at making absurd questions for signup, and not configuring the mail server correctly |
| 21:09 |
DeepTht |
activation msg got spammed |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> c55's mail servers leave a lot to be desired, just like with the rest of the services he hosts unfortunately |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ^this |
| 21:10 |
DeepTht |
is contentdb also hosted by the same? |
| 21:10 |
DeepTht |
cause it can be slow as hell at times |
| 21:10 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> lol no |
| 21:11 |
FavoritoHJS |
i'd say ask rubenwardy to host them but then we'll have single point of failure issues |
| 21:11 |
DeepTht |
lately its been fine though |
| 21:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> rubenwardy hosts cdb. |
| 21:11 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> contentdb is hosted by rubenwardy on a server that's not dying |
| 21:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> as far as im aware, cdb has always been fine. the forum however has always been terrible |
| 21:11 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> wiki is... don't even try |
| 21:12 |
independent56 |
CDB didn't die, even after a surge from youtube tbf |
| 21:12 |
DeepTht |
the wiki is filled with absolutely broken links everywhere |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> broken links? |
| 21:12 |
DeepTht |
to pages that are depricated etc |
| 21:12 |
FavoritoHJS |
i fear the best option for the wiki is to archive and start over... |
| 21:12 |
DeepTht |
ive found it to be mostly useless |
| 21:12 |
independent56 |
Rubenwardy seems to be a competent sysadmin given contentdb |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> yeah I know |
| 21:12 |
independent56 |
Or maybe it's "own work own passion" thing |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I've been trying to go through and clean up the wiki |
| 21:12 |
DeepTht |
there is a startling lack of useful information about anything beyond playing the game |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> but it's a lot of stuff |
| 21:13 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> the wiki also treats minetest as a game which is... not ideal |
| 21:13 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> isnt the wiki still outdated and partially broken |
| 21:13 |
rubenwardy |
DeepTht: I've had slowness of CDB reported but I've never been able to reproduce it myself, probably because I'm fairly close to the host |
| 21:13 |
DeepTht |
it comes and goes for me |
| 21:13 |
DeepTht |
right now cdb is fast |
| 21:13 |
DeepTht |
a week ago it took over 60ms for a pageload |
| 21:13 |
rubenwardy |
there's a blackbox monitor that records the response time of the CDB homepage |
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FavoritoHJS |
but who will do that? celeron doesn't, rw already has contendb so any more would decrease bus factor... does anyone else know how to keep a page alive? |
| 21:15 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> there has been offers in the past |
| 21:15 |
rubenwardy |
do you mean 600ms? 60ms is faster than I see it |
| 21:16 |
DeepTht |
yes |
| 21:16 |
DeepTht |
sorry im having an IBS flare up day, so my brain is dead |
| 21:16 |
DeepTht |
cant even use grep properly today without retrying several times, its that bad |
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independent56 |
Wow, sorry for you |
| 21:25 |
DeepTht |
eh, its life. ill feel better tomorrow |
| 21:25 |
DeepTht |
thanks for the sympathy |
| 21:25 |
independent56 |
Quick tip: Alcohol can help your mind feel better |
| 21:25 |
independent56 |
it works for me |
| 21:25 |
DeepTht |
not me, I don't drink anymore |
| 21:25 |
DeepTht |
i had serious issues with it 10 years ago or so |
| 21:26 |
independent56 |
Oh yeah that |
| 21:26 |
independent56 |
I have Russian heritage so alcoholism comes naturally for me. |
| 21:26 |
independent56 |
My parents drink two glasses each dinner |
| 21:26 |
independent56 |
Hopefully i become old enough to legally smoke marijuana |
| 21:26 |
independent56 |
Which is far better |
| 21:27 |
DeepTht |
also physically addictive, especially if you use heavily for a long time |
| 21:27 |
DeepTht |
just fyi |
| 21:27 |
independent56 |
Yeah, i go out cycling every day but all that does is make me feel tired |
| 21:27 |
DeepTht |
i quit about 20 days ago, still cant sleep well, night sweats, anxiety, tinnitus |
| 21:28 |
DeepTht |
now my only vices are caffiene and nicotine |
| 21:28 |
independent56 |
Sorry for you, IBS and Alcohol problems?! |
| 21:28 |
rubenwardy |
ContentDB uses a lot of bandwidth that limits where it can be hosted - on average 2TB per month, but I'd want to be able to survive a 20x increase at least |
| 21:28 |
independent56 |
I barely have anything wrong with mild autism and a caffine and hair-pulling addiction, as well as alcohol on rainydays |
| 21:28 |
rubenwardy |
It's hosted on a Virtual Dedicated Server (VDS) from netCup (RS 2000 G9.5, 6-core 3.35GHz, 16GB RAM) |
| 21:28 |
DeepTht |
ya I have ASD as well |
| 21:29 |
DeepTht |
so I feel you there |
| 21:29 |
independent56 |
I go the risky route and host everything from home because mum only buys boring things, like braces for 800 euros because modern beauty standards |
| 21:30 |
independent56 |
Or 1,000 a month for international school because apparently she values an English cirriculum more then a once-in-a-lifetime oppurtunity to be forced to learn languages. |
| 21:30 |
independent56 |
Autism is what leads to me being hated eventually on every community i go to |
| 21:30 |
independent56 |
It's why i had to leave MT discord and LF and various others. |
| 21:30 |
independent56 |
And it happens just when i feel like i'm finally getting better at social situations. |
| 21:31 |
DeepTht |
when i was younger I waited tables at low end restaraunts, it helped me grow socially a lot |
| 21:31 |
DeepTht |
cause id get paid more to act "normal" |
| 21:31 |
independent56 |
Intresting |
| 21:32 |
independent56 |
But i'm to busy trolling to do that /j |
| 21:32 |
DeepTht |
ha |
| 21:32 |
independent56 |
Alcohol and nicotene should be banned and replaced with marijuana |
| 21:32 |
independent56 |
And caffeene imo |
| 21:34 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> what does any of that have to do with minetest? |
| 21:34 |
independent56 |
Oh yeah, i forgot about being on-topic |
| 21:34 |
DeepTht |
absolutely nothing, sorry |
| 21:34 |
independent56 |
Anyways....! Alcohol addiction and marijuana addiction mods for minetest anyone? |
| 21:35 |
DeepTht |
lol |
| 21:35 |
DeepTht |
there is already a marijuana mod for mt |
| 21:35 |
DeepTht |
its silly |
| 21:35 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> im not saying stop, but it seems a bit weird. I also dont know the rules for mt irc |
| 21:35 |
DeepTht |
iirc some offtopic is ok, but we were getting excessive tbh |
| 21:35 |
independent56 |
yeah lol |
| 21:35 |
DeepTht |
coulda switched to pm for that discussion |
| 21:36 |
independent56 |
Anyways, imma code an alcohol addiction mod: If you don't drink alcohol you lose 1 hp per minute. if you drink alcohol, you lose 2 hp per two minutes |
| 21:36 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> . . . |
| 21:37 |
independent56 |
If you overcome addiction, you gain 2 addiction points per minute |
| 21:37 |
independent56 |
And if it reaches full, you get addicted again |
| 21:37 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> uhh |
| 21:37 |
independent56 |
The only way to quit is to leave the server |
| 21:37 |
independent56 |
Which educates people on the horror of minetest addiction |
| 21:37 |
independent56 |
*alcohol |
| 21:37 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> both |
| 21:40 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> alcohol 💀i was at a party on Friday and one of my friends had like a litre of pimms and 5 vodka shots. by the end of the night he was vomitting and his christian conservative parents werent happy to say the least. i messaged him the next morning asking how he was and he said he didnt even remember what happened |
| 21:41 |
independent56 |
That's too much! |
| 21:41 |
independent56 |
You want it to mess with your head in a good way, not this way. |
| 21:41 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I once tried a bit of whiskey, ugh, that stuff is horrible |
| 21:42 |
independent56 |
Yeah, go for something classy like wine or... i dunno, liquor? |
| 21:42 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> should have been a bit good since the bottle had vanilla beans in it in an attempt to make vanilla extract, but it was beyond horrible |
| 21:42 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I dont drink |
| 21:42 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I like root beer |
| 21:42 |
independent56 |
Boring! |
| 21:42 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> the pimms was very nice tbh and i dont blame him for having that much lmao |
| 21:42 |
independent56 |
What's life without a few risks? |
| 21:42 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> https://tenor.com/view/snoopy-beer-alcohol-peanuts-drinking-gif-5486701 |
| 21:43 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I dont need that kind of risk |
| 21:43 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I am already a firefighter, thats risk enough |
| 21:43 |
independent56 |
I'm British and Russian! I have Alcohol addiction in my genes! ARGHH! |
| 21:43 |
independent56 |
Every friday night i drink a bottle of vodka |
| 21:43 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> a bottle? dang |
| 21:43 |
independent56 |
'Cause when I leave for the night, I ain't coming back |
| 21:43 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> damn you are a firefighter already? last i remember, you were training. well done! |
| 21:43 |
independent56 |
Trying to get a little bit tipsy |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> j, Ive been a firefighter since I was 16 |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Im working on my associates degree though still |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> and I just became an EMT |
| 21:44 |
independent56 |
Ain't got a care in the world, but got plenty of beer |
| 21:44 |
independent56 |
Has anyone got my references yet? |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i56: is that TiKToK by i don't remember who |
| 21:44 |
independent56 |
Yes, Ke$ha, queen of the 00s |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> so you're 18 now? 20? |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> 18 |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> that makes you a member of my age group |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> which is? |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> 18 years lol |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> lol, I thought you were older tbh |
| 21:46 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> nah, just been a nerd for almost a decade now |
| 21:46 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> LMD is actually 69 btw!!! (/j) |
| 21:46 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> if so, hes probably calling you and me dang whippersnappers |
| 21:47 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> this generation and their phones, honestly... |
| 21:47 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I dont officially have a phone, but I use one when I go to town and on fire calls. |
| 21:48 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Usually, I try to use whole sentences and proper grammar, compared to all of these goofballs I see in minetest chat. |
| 21:48 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> about 90% of it is slang abbreviations, and emojis I have never seen before. |
| 21:48 |
independent56 |
Wut? Yu want grammar propers? wowzers, what a suprize |
| 21:48 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> grammar is overrated innit fam |
| 21:49 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> ya cant be down these ends with grammar styll g |
| 21:49 |
independent56 |
yah, it's chewsday innit |
| 21:49 |
independent56 |
No wait it's sunday innt |
| 21:49 |
independent56 |
i forgor which day 💀💀💀 |
| 21:49 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> he forgor 💀 |
| 21:49 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Sometimes, I wonder why I went to English class with how ridiculous some things I see and read. |
| 21:49 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> you forgor 💀💀 |
| 21:50 |
independent56 |
British people ☕ |
| 21:50 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> j45, independent56: are you trying to illustrate what PrairieWind is speaking of? ;) |
| 21:50 |
independent56 |
Exacto |
| 21:50 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I'm American, by the way 😄 . |
| 21:50 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> British people 💀💀💀 |
| 21:50 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> so, what if I made my website look like my editor |
| 21:50 |
independent56 |
Thank's matey, i'll put another one on the barbie and go fight the spider trying to claim my backyard |
| 21:51 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> Aussie? |
| 21:51 |
independent56 |
Yes, exactl |
| 21:51 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> vim? |
| 21:51 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> micro |
| 21:51 |
independent56 |
I own an emerald mine... Guys, i'm one of you, i promise! Here's my hypertunnel for inefficent space wasting transport devices! |
| 21:51 |
independent56 |
Guess who i'm imitating |
| 21:52 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> idk |
| 21:52 |
independent56 |
Oh and also i landed a rocket booster AF no crosshaird LMAO |
| 21:52 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> elon musk? |
| 21:52 |
independent56 |
I was imitating Elon Musk |
| 21:52 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> terminal editor LMD? |
| 21:52 |
independent56 |
Yes, exactl |
| 21:52 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> yes |
| 21:53 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I hope its light...might make coding easier for me. |
| 21:53 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> pretty lightweight, yeah |
| 21:53 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> micro is very nice |
| 21:53 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> since I have to open up geany too when I already have the terminal open. |
| 21:53 |
independent56 |
Few, i thought you were talking about light theme 💀💀💀💀 |
| 21:53 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> independent56: Space X is pretty awesome though, no matter the Muskrat |
| 21:54 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i56: careful, roller and lmd both use light mode |
| 21:54 |
independent56 |
Yeah, but Musk only said "do this rediculous thing", and all his underpaid slaves were like "ok, elon, as long as i get a money" |
| 21:54 |
independent56 |
Light theme for terminals 💀💀💀 |
| 21:54 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> what the fuck, I don't use light mode |
| 21:54 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> independent56: how can you be certain that the "hyperloop" is a "ridiculous" thing? |
| 21:54 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> frankly I can't tell, it might be |
| 21:54 |
independent56 |
No, i mean the vegas loop |
| 21:54 |
independent56 |
A claustrophobic place where you can't even open your doors |
| 21:54 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> why do you have the light mode role then? 🤨🤨🤨 |
| 21:55 |
independent56 |
Just put the glasgow subway in those tunnels FFS |
| 21:55 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Says the guy with light mode role. |
| 21:55 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I got light mode role because I used to have a white ralsei pfp |
| 21:55 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I obviously use yellow mode |
| 21:55 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> mhm |
| 21:56 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> good night folks |
| 21:56 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064301979154796655/image.png |
| 21:56 |
independent56 |
https://imgur.com/a/xpkm8gu I like to mixmy themes |
| 21:56 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> For a while, I had the light mode role, and I had no idea why or who gave it to me. It really annoyed me, as I dont use light mode except in a couple select websites...along with ones that dont have dark mode. |
| 21:56 |
independent56 |
Dark, dark, and lkight |
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| 21:57 |
independent56 |
ARGHH YELLOW MODE 💀💀💀 |
| 21:57 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> ugh, my eyes roller, thats quite the ugly color mode. |
| 21:57 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> LOL |
| 21:57 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> if I keep this up I might get a cool yellow username |
| 21:58 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Aren't you authorized to ask for an ugly yellow role? |
| 21:58 |
independent56 |
https://imgur.com/a/4b5YWNC |
| 21:58 |
independent56 |
Guess what i use |
| 21:59 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> dark mode with vs |
| 21:59 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> jokes aside I use seti monokai as my vs code theme |
| 21:59 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I think it's pretty nice |
| 21:59 |
independent56 |
High contrast dark mode |
| 21:59 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> used to use dracula but I find seti monokai to have better contrast |
| 21:59 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I haven't managed to find a dark mode option for geany...yet, otherwise I would use it. |
| 21:59 |
independent56 |
I usually use monokai but i like to change for screenshots because i like messing with people |
| 22:00 |
FavoritoHJS |
oh no... |
| 22:00 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I just end up seeing this |
| 22:00 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064303109477777538/image.png |
| 22:00 |
independent56 |
goodnight y'all, i need to go to school and cry about waking up too early using Polish time instead of Portugese time, which honestly makes more sense |
| 22:00 |
independent56 |
Haha you use geany? Grow up and use nano |
| 22:01 |
independent56 |
Or Netbeans |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> at least the text color is better than default |
| 22:01 |
DeepTht |
just use cat |
| 22:01 |
independent56 |
ed |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> x_x |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> It used to be red and orange, I found a setting and changed it to green and gray. |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> good night i56 |
| 22:01 |
independent56 |
Can one of you force me to leave? |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> now to find the dark mode setting. |
| 22:01 |
independent56 |
Like threaten me or smthn |
| 22:01 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> https://tenor.com/view/tommen-game-of-thrones-nope-jump-out-of-window-kill-myself-gif-5620743 |
| 22:02 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Do it before I send a virus that blows up your computer |
| 22:02 |
independent56 |
Oh no! Too bad i use PropietaryBSD |
| 22:02 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> leave or ill confiscate your vodka |
| 22:02 |
independent56 |
NO!!!! |
| 22:02 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Hmm, better threat indeed. |
| 22:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> gosh I wish there was a way to ban people from irc |
| 22:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> or the internet as a whole |
| 22:03 |
DeepTht |
you can filter anything you wish from being seen by you |
| 22:03 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I know one person I would start with if we could ban people from the internet. |
| 22:04 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> At least anyway. |
| 22:04 |
DeepTht |
dude just turn off your screen, its that simple |
| 22:04 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> who? |
| 22:04 |
DeepTht |
lol |
| 22:04 |
DeepTht |
imagine getting so butthurt over other people on the internet you wish to ban them |
| 22:04 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Actually, two. One is the clown who tried to sell minetest and several mods illegally last hear. |
| 22:04 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> *year |
| 22:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> and I just dislike kids |
| 22:05 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> that guy was hella funny |
| 22:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> not funny but pathetic |
| 22:05 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> The other one is a jackass who has nothing better to do in life other than use dragonfireclient and spawn kill players, besides other stupid stuff. |
| 22:06 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> The spawnkiller's name is Kishi if you care to watch for him (Yes j45, I know you are also on the same discord server, so you know who I am talking about). |
| 22:07 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I chew him out about once a month. |
| 22:07 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> yea kishi is quite an ass |
| 22:08 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> He is only annoying in my view because he makes everyone else's experience on minetest bad, and usually I cant do anything about it. |
| 22:09 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Although he has dared to venture onto the VE network, so diceLibrarian and I just take care of him. |
| 22:09 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> are you seriously shit talking some random kid with a hacked client on IRC |
| 22:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> why not |
| 22:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> you reap what you sow |
| 22:10 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> random kid with a hacked client as in kishi? |
| 22:10 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> he is very annoying tbf iirc he made cora leave the df discord server |
| 22:10 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Aye, he did |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> And you got appointed to cora developer because of it. |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> cora developer |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> yes lol |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> CORA DEVELOPER |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> funy |
| 22:11 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064305970966175836/image.png |
| 22:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> honestly not surprised cora left it as mineclone is already pretty draining (constant drama) |
| 22:12 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> Nah, she left the DF server before that. |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> why is mineclone full of drama anyway |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> also it is possible to ban people from IRC, there are in fact rules for the IRC channels but I'm sure nobody would be around to enforce them if anything actually happened 🤷 |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> ok |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> anyways idk if its just me but I feel like i56 got more annoying |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> since his ban |
| 22:13 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> also someone should tell the mineclone folks they only should recreate the game, not the community surrounding it |
| 22:14 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i dont remember i56 before his ban but i dont think is he very annoying |
| 22:14 |
FavoritoHJS |
actually they seem to be doing a terrible job of recreating the community, from what i recall even mc has less drama per modder squared |
| 22:15 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> i have to disagree |
| 22:15 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> i know a few big modders who gave up after internal drama and harassment |
| 22:16 |
DeepTht |
ok this is an idiot question, with adv_trains how do you couple cars? |
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| 22:18 |
independent56 |
I heard you talking behind my back. |
| 22:18 |
independent56 |
In which way can i be annoying? |
| 22:18 |
independent56 |
And about which ban are you talking |
| 22:18 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> ask flamore |
| 22:18 |
independent56 |
I am losing sleep over this matter, by the way |
| 22:18 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> MTD ban, i think |
| 22:18 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> talking behind your back would imply we were talking privately and not in a public channel |
| 22:18 |
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<Flamore> hi that's me |
| 22:19 |
independent56 |
With Advtrains, put two carriages close and between them there should be some broken chain |
| 22:19 |
independent56 |
Right-click it and then they're besties |
| 22:19 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> you're losing sleep because some people on the internet think you're annoying? |
| 22:19 |
DeepTht |
danke |
| 22:19 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> relatable |
| 22:19 |
independent56 |
Yes, my image is very sensitive |
| 22:20 |
independent56 |
You must remember i am a dictator of a minetest server, so i take ridicule very seriously |
| 22:21 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> LOL |
| 22:21 |
independent56 |
I should have Flamore flagged and quartered |
| 22:21 |
independent56 |
And we might even get furries to draw him, a fate worse then death |
| 22:22 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> yeah he's annoying |
| 22:22 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> you're saying that like it's a bad thing? |
| 22:22 |
DeepTht |
well i have 2 right next to each other and no chain |
| 22:22 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> also doesn't the former sound like a death threat? |
| 22:22 |
FavoritoHJS |
yup... glad to see you haven't changed since 2020 roller |
| 22:22 |
FavoritoHJS |
i was afraid of that, someone like you rising through the ranks of another place |
| 22:23 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> what |
| 22:23 |
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<j45> please dont do this favorito |
| 22:23 |
FavoritoHJS |
do you remember? 2020 |
| 22:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> oh my god don't bring drama in |
| 22:23 |
FavoritoHJS |
you got banned due to pedophilia |
| 22:23 |
independent56 |
Who's drama is this |
| 22:23 |
independent56 |
Oh dammit wow that's nasty |
| 22:23 |
independent56 |
As a former minor, i hate pedophiles |
| 22:23 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> yeah I do remember when I was lured into an NSFW channel when I was 15 |
| 22:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> FavoritoHJS why dont you just stfu with your lie that has been repeatedly ignored |
| 22:23 |
FavoritoHJS |
some random discord server |
| 22:23 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> how is roller a pedo if he is literally 16 |
| 22:24 |
independent56 |
15 is the age of consent in france |
| 22:24 |
independent56 |
14 in andorra |
| 22:24 |
FavoritoHJS |
who is 16? i recall you saying you are serior high scool |
| 22:24 |
FavoritoHJS |
school* |
| 22:24 |
FavoritoHJS |
something doesn't quite add up here |
| 22:24 |
independent56 |
I'm 16 |
| 22:24 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> idk iirc roller is around that age |
| 22:24 |
independent56 |
The age of consent in the UK and Spain |
| 22:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> Favorito i'm pretty sure that you were warner earlier about bringing in drama and accusations |
| 22:24 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> what, I'm 18 now |
| 22:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> warned* |
| 22:24 |
independent56 |
Quick tip: The age of consent for Welsh sheep is 0 |
| 22:25 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> my birthday is public, you clearly should have seen it considering you've been snooping around |
| 22:25 |
FavoritoHJS |
and? from what I recall your actions went above and beyond just being lured into an nsfw channel |
| 22:25 |
DeepTht |
https://imgur.com/lRw9Fhu.png |
| 22:25 |
diceLibrarian |
who pinged me |
| 22:25 |
independent56 |
Strange |
| 22:25 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> wsor: do you happen to be able to ban people on IRC? |
| 22:25 |
independent56 |
Maybe check your privs or ask in the Advtrains forum, i'm sure they'll be happy to help |
| 22:26 |
diceLibrarian |
hmmmm |
| 22:26 |
hmmmm |
hi |
| 22:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> nope, thats the people who have +o option |
| 22:26 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> :/ |
| 22:26 |
diceLibrarian |
does wsor4035 have +oO? |
| 22:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> some people are pathetic |
| 22:26 |
diceLibrarian |
doesn't look like it |
| 22:26 |
diceLibrarian |
but I see a fake labrat-gone-rogue |
| 22:27 |
Kimapr |
rubenwardy shows up as moderator on the matrix side |
| 22:27 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> FavoritoHJS: what, like siivooja? |
| 22:27 |
DeepTht |
i ran /grantme all so its not a priv issue |
| 22:27 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> when you have a tech support channel, expect people to try to make conversation in it |
| 22:27 |
independent56 |
Maybe bring the trains closer together |
| 22:27 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> that's what I learned from linuxmint-help spotchat |
| 22:27 |
Noisytoot |
You can see the ops with /msg ChanServ FLAGS #minetest |
| 22:28 |
FavoritoHJS |
that's a name i haven't heard in a while |
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MTDiscord |
<Flamore> i keep thinking you're me when you show up |
| 22:28 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> exactly the joke Flamore |
| 22:28 |
independent56 |
http://advtrains.de/wiki/doku.php?id=usage:howto#coupling_wagons |
| 22:28 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> I couldn't find a good quote image |
| 22:28 |
FavoritoHJS |
unless they're here, however, i doubt the importance of that. |
| 22:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> interesting |
| 22:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064310269112754276/image.png |
| 22:29 |
DeepTht |
ty independent56 |
| 22:29 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> but didn't Vanessa retire? |
| 22:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> Jordach is a mod 💀 |
| 22:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and shara vanished |
| 22:29 |
independent56 |
Anyways, tell me in which way i am annoying |
| 22:29 |
diceLibrarian |
I plead the fifth |
| 22:30 |
independent56 |
Are my parties too loud? Do i sing to much in the shower? |
| 22:30 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> jordach isn't a mod tho? |
| 22:30 |
diceLibrarian |
Jordach did design the Sam skin |
| 22:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> you're obnoxiously loud about "consuming alcohol" when I'm pretty sure you're still a minor |
| 22:30 |
independent56 |
Yeah, that's a pretty bad thing for me to do |
| 22:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> "ah yes I drink a bottle vodka every Friday" "I have British and Russian in my blood, gosh I love alcohol" |
| 22:30 |
independent56 |
But brits do it all the time |
| 22:31 |
diceLibrarian |
come back to me when you're Irish |
| 22:31 |
MTDiscord |
<kimapr> imagine consuming alcohol |
| 22:31 |
DeepTht |
ya something is seriously wrong, onboard computer button does nothing |
| 22:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> you didn't deny the minor part |
| 22:31 |
independent56 |
I don't drink a bottle of vodka, just a small sip of wine when the days grow dark |
| 22:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> you're contradicting yourself |
| 22:31 |
independent56 |
I also have an unhealthy addiction to merzbow by the way |
| 22:32 |
DeepTht |
oh grantme all didnt grant train operator |
| 22:32 |
Noisytoot |
"As a former minor" implies not currently being a minor |
| 22:32 |
independent56 |
It helps a lot when everyone is getting annoying and i just need something i can play to feel like i have control |
| 22:32 |
independent56 |
Noisytoot, Minor of being below 18 for alcohol, major of being 16, which is the age of consent |
| 22:32 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064311197895241779/YOU_ARE_HERE.png |
| 22:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> Noisytoot: my memory might be full of holes but i am sure he's still a minor |
| 22:33 |
independent56 |
Context? |
| 22:33 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> the drinking age is 21 |
| 22:33 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> at least stateside |
| 22:33 |
independent56 |
No it's not |
| 22:33 |
independent56 |
I live in Spain |
| 22:33 |
independent56 |
I only need to be 18 |
| 22:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> yeah just let me wait for eternity until discord fixes it's search function |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
Same in the UK |
| 22:34 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> hmmmm lemme ask noah about that one |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
I'm only two years off |
| 22:34 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i wish i could live in spain sadly im stuck in the miserable uk lmao |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
Which i guess is fair as i'm 2 years born prematurely |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
Yeah, i'm glad i left that shithole |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
Pound is collapsing, i don't even know who runs the country |
| 22:34 |
independent56 |
And i missed the EU |
| 22:35 |
independent56 |
And we even voted "stay" and "labour"! |
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diceLibrarian |
[1/15/23 17:34:26] <independent56> Which i guess is fair as i'm 2 years born prematurely \\ uhhhhhhhhhhhh how the hell does that even work? the limit is nine months |
| 22:35 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i mean the healthcare in Madrid isnt the best rn but it's certainly better than the NHS |
| 22:35 |
independent56 |
diceLibrarian: I still don't get the context of the image |
| 22:35 |
hmmmm |
diceLibrarian: sure thing man. |
| 22:35 |
independent56 |
I live closer to Barcelona then Madrid |
| 22:35 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> ... |
| 22:36 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> the human gestation period is nine months |
| 22:36 |
independent56 |
Like who is it referring to and who did i call an asshat? |
| 22:36 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> the context is that you're in the lower levels of the pyramid of disagreement |
| 22:36 |
independent56 |
Still don't get it cos i'm agreeing |
| 22:36 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> It's a catch-all image I made when someone started spamming insults on CatLandia |
| 22:36 |
independent56 |
I agree my alcohol addiction needs to be fixed lol |
| 22:37 |
independent56 |
But it's only like a small glass a month lol |
| 22:37 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> my problem is that you're completely ignoring legality and science |
| 22:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> you're of "legal drinking age" (18) and you were born "2 years early" therefore you're not more than 16 |
| 22:37 |
independent56 |
My friends at school were vaping and drinking in the school bathrooms |
| 22:37 |
independent56 |
At the same time! |
| 22:37 |
independent56 |
They vaped wine and drank vape liquid! |
| 22:37 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> the whole vaping thing is a huge problem here in England |
| 22:37 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> and you shouldn't be drinking trust me |
| 22:37 |
independent56 |
I know |
| 22:37 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> and how are you even BORN two years early. the human gestation period is nine months, which is only three quarters of a year |
| 22:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> I've lived with alcoholics since I was born and it's not fun |
| 22:38 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> dice, you were summoned by the great PrairieWind 😏 |
| 22:38 |
independent56 |
Yeah |
| 22:38 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> I was, and now I'm in Bill Nye mode |
| 22:38 |
kabou |
oh the olden days when pupils would smoalk their herbs in a water pipe filled with strong liquor |
| 22:38 |
independent56 |
It's just that |
| 22:38 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> meanwhile, i didn't see a single person vaping while in Spain visiting family this holidays |
| 22:38 |
independent56 |
i'm a special snowflake |
| 22:38 |
kabou |
rumor has it that it was good for maths comprehension |
| 22:38 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> we all are special snowflakes |
| 22:39 |
independent56 |
But i'm even specialer |
| 22:39 |
independent56 |
And easily offended by words like "annoying" |
| 22:39 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> so was I |
| 22:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> anyways isn't minetest-hub the off topic irc |
| 22:39 |
independent56 |
Oh yeah, good idea |
| 22:39 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> but then I grew up |
| 22:39 |
independent56 |
Now i'm offended you grew out of being offended |
| 22:40 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> okay SJW |
| 22:40 |
independent56 |
How DARE you try to improve your life? I'm cancelling you |
| 22:40 |
diceLibrarian |
okay SJW |
| 22:40 |
independent56 |
Just cos i'm jelaous |
| 22:40 |
diceLibrarian |
okay SJW |
| 22:40 |
independent56 |
I'm offended you used "okay" instead of "O.K." |
| 22:41 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i56: me llevo tu vodka si no te vas a dormir |
| 22:41 |
DeepTht |
im offended by people being offended |
| 22:41 |
diceLibrarian |
and that's just cursed |
| 22:41 |
diceLibrarian |
at this point, I'm going to keep using "okay" just to infuriate |
| 22:41 |
independent56 |
Don't you dare talk about Vodka in spanish! |
| 22:41 |
independent56 |
It's a russian word |
| 22:41 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> lol |
| 22:41 |
independent56 |
Gavari po-russki cuando tu quieras gavarid de alcohol |
| 22:42 |
independent56 |
Y vodka lol |
| 22:42 |
diceLibrarian |
besides, you can't cancel what "Autism Speaks" already cancelled |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
Flamore: no, confusingly offtopic is in #minetest |
| 22:42 |
rubenwardy |
-hub should probably be deleted or repurposed |
| 22:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> what |
| 22:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> ohhh |
| 22:42 |
independent56 |
Flamore sounds supuciously like "flame war" i've ust realised |
| 22:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> I just fuvked up bad |
| 22:42 |
independent56 |
Goodnight todod, neccisito dormir |
| 22:43 |
diceLibrarian |
permission to dab on his IP? |
| 22:43 |
Sharp |
Anyone knows what is happening here? |
| 22:43 |
Sharp |
Or what kind of theater is going on here? :) |
| 22:43 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> "smt smt whenever you want smt of alcohol and vodka lol" oh no my Spanish is deteriorating |
| 22:43 |
diceLibrarian |
basically, some guy decided to not make sense |
| 22:43 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> buenas noches! |
| 22:43 |
Sharp |
Only one guy? |
| 22:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> and some other guy decided to bring in drama and false accusations |
| 22:44 |
diceLibrarian |
and I'm the resident dickwad+LogicGuy |
| 22:44 |
Sharp |
Nice.. :) I admire that someone has time to waste time like this ;) |
| 22:45 |
diceLibrarian |
I even made an image that guys says "you are here" with an arrow pointing to the bottom of the hierarchy of disagreement |
| 22:45 |
diceLibrarian |
*just says |
| 22:45 |
Sharp |
@Flamore, but thanks for explanation :) |
| 22:45 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> just googled, apparently the words i didnt know are russian... phew |
| 22:46 |
Noisytoot |
Is "Gavari po-russki cuando tu quieras gavarid de alcohol" mixed Russian and Spanish? |
| 22:46 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> I have these two images to pull whenever someone insults me or is confident in an incorrect stance |
| 22:46 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064314613493137478/YOU_ARE_HERE.png |
| 22:46 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064314613707063306/Dunning-Kruger-roll-Over.png |
| 22:46 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> po-russki doesnt seem like a Spanish word but gavari seemed like it could be |
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| 22:46 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> noisytoot: yes |
| 22:47 |
independent56 |
Yes, because my Russian is so bad i need to mix it with Spanish |
| 22:47 |
Noisytoot |
po-russki and gavari are Russian |
| 22:47 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> russki is russian for russian |
| 22:47 |
Noisytoot |
po-russki = in Russian, gavari = talk |
| 22:47 |
diceLibrarian |
LMFAO HE JOINED JUST TO SAY THAT, that's great |
| 22:47 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> damn |
| 22:48 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> yeah, sounds like someone's Discord-sniping |
| 22:49 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> iirc he did ban evade a few times |
| 22:49 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i56: sometimes i forget how to speak English and just speak Spanglish without realising irl |
| 22:49 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> irc logs exist tho |
| 22:49 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> if you are discord-sniping, join the IRC and say ||I am the legendary fartmaster|| |
| 22:49 |
sfan5 |
whats all the fuss here |
| 22:49 |
Sharp |
But it should be written in their analphabet ->??????? ?? ?????? (Rusian talk) |
| 22:50 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> legendary fartmaster, lol |
| 22:50 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> howdy sfan5 |
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MTDiscord |
<kimapr> analphabet |
| 22:50 |
independent56 |
.||I am the legendary fartmaster|| |
| 22:50 |
diceLibrarian |
... |
| 22:50 |
independent56 |
And i do not know what a discord sniping is] |
| 22:50 |
diceLibrarian |
OH MY GOD, HE ACTUALLY DID IT, WHAT A LEGENT |
| 22:50 |
diceLibrarian |
*legend |
| 22:50 |
independent56 |
I don't even have a discord |
| 22:50 |
diceLibrarian |
using Discord to read the IRC chat |
| 22:50 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> personal issue |
| 22:50 |
rubenwardy |
sigh, this channel allows offtopic but this is going way too far |
| 22:50 |
FavoritoHJS |
he's probably using matrix then |
| 22:50 |
Noisytoot |
Is he just reloading the public IRC logs? |
| 22:51 |
diceLibrarian |
okay, so we know he's either on Matrix or IRC |
| 22:51 |
diceLibrarian |
the question is: what username |
| 22:51 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> oof, I forgot matrix was also connected here. |
| 22:51 |
diceLibrarian |
if he's reading the public logs, that's different |
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independent56 |
I have class. I don't use discord https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2023-01-15 |
| 22:51 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> i should probably sleep given i have a lesson first period tomorrow 💀 |
| 22:51 |
MTDiscord |
<j45> good night |
| 22:52 |
MTDiscord |
<diceLibrarian> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1064316062688104478/Dunning-Kruger-roll-Over.png |
| 22:52 |
Sharp |
GN |
| 22:52 |
diceLibrarian |
response to "having class" |
| 22:52 |
diceLibrarian |
there is nothing classy about reading IRC logs |
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Sharp |
Has anyone here solved a mod for cutting down whole trees for Mineclone? :) |
| 22:53 |
prairiewind[m] |
Not that I am aware of |
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MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> whats the [m} part at the end of my name???? |
| 22:54 |
diceLibrarian |
Matrix |
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MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> [m] |
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prairiewind[m] |
bruh |
| 22:54 |
Noisytoot |
matrix-appservice-irc adds it to bridged users to avoid conflicting with IRC users with the same nick |
| 22:54 |
Noisytoot |
You can message appservice to change it |
| 22:55 |
Noisytoot |
Send !nick <nick> to @appservice:libera.chat or something like that |
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prairiewind[m] |
meh, I prefer irc over matrix anyway |
| 22:56 |
independent56 |
nt56> i should probably sleep given i have a lesson first period tomorrow 💀 |
| 22:56 |
independent56 |
<independent56> Not using discord being classy is the same way not being French is classy |
| 22:56 |
independent56 |
<independent56> But i'm british, so ihave frenchphobia in my genes |
| 22:56 |
diceLibrarian |
aka racism |
| 22:57 |
sfan5 |
!ban *@139.47.36.113 |
| 22:57 |
MTDiscord |
<Flamore> NO WAY |
| 22:57 |
diceLibrarian |
yeah, he was getting annoying |
| 22:57 |
Sharp |
prairiewind[m]: Do you think it would be worth the effort to expand the treecapitator mod? Or I'm alone with that.. |
| 22:57 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> can you link the mod? |
| 22:57 |
diceLibrarian |
because being [country's-people]phobic is basically racism |
| 22:57 |
FavoritoHJS |
who got banned |
| 22:58 |
FavoritoHJS |
oh, i56 |
| 22:58 |
Sharp |
https://content.minetest.net/packages/Hybrid%20Dog/treecapitator/ |
| 22:58 |
Noisytoot |
independent56 |
| 22:58 |
diceLibrarian |
independent56 did |
| 22:58 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> I dont decide on effort worthiness without reading the source code and what the dependencies are |
| 22:58 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> thank you |
| 22:58 |
Sharp |
@PrairieWind You are welcome :) |
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MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> comes with an api....hmm, read the api, and I should think it would work...but, you will need to make default an optional dependency, not a hard one. |
| 23:02 |
MTDiscord |
<PrairieWind> https://github.com/HybridDog/treecapitator/blob/master/documentation/doc.md looks like the api documentation to get you started in adding in mineclone2 support. |
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PrairieWind |
thats better |
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