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IRC log for #minetest, 2022-11-19

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01:40 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> I... I need to share this
01:40 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> so.
01:41 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> there's a solution to client-side physics, and SSCSM, it requires no PRs it requires no direct modifications to the game
01:41 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> don't have SSCSMs, at all
01:41 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> download games
01:43 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> when you make a world, you can make a profile and connect to a external server
01:43 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> bypass C++ side of everything
01:44 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> the server sends data about the world state, location of entities, players, etc
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> client sends actions to the server
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> goes through anti-cheat etc
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> make changes
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> send actions to other players... basically everything else
01:45 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> This is how multiplayer in games usually works.
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> yes
01:45 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> not in minetest
01:46 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> but we can make it in minetest
01:46 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> we'd still have a "host" world, it'd just have different files... I'll make a flow chart
01:46 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Its not that hard to understand
01:47 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> yeah, but I want to go further into detail about the proposition
01:47 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> What proposition, this isnt a PR or anything
01:48 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> no, and it wouldn't need to be
01:48 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> my idea is to make a framework- a library for this
01:48 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Aha
01:48 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Well, my proposition is to fix the engine to actually let you do traditional multiplayer without doing all those extra steps
01:59 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> and that wont happen
01:59 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> which is why we should make a framework
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04:22 MTDiscord <Fatalist error> I dont see the reason why it's a bad idea
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09:45 MTDiscord <luatic> Because it won't work without a full reimplementation of networking in Lua which is bound to suck?
09:45 MTDiscord <luatic> come up with a working proof of concept and then we talk
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09:48 MTDiscord <kimapr> no, you can do it with a singleplayer world that connects to an external server with e.g. luasockets
09:55 rubenwardy Not sure what they're even suggesting
09:59 MTDiscord <luatic> I'm aware
09:59 MTDiscord <luatic> but you're still limited by Minetest
09:59 MTDiscord <luatic> e.g. Minetest will just block your Lua main thread when it feels like it
10:00 MTDiscord <luatic> I consider the amount of work against the engine suggested here to be infeasible
10:00 MTDiscord <luatic> at that point you're better off forking
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10:44 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Damn, I got too carried away with my current video and I ended up playing the game for like a half an hour
11:02 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Oh yeah, this isn't the lounge, whoops
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11:44 MTDiscord <Scout> lol
11:44 MTDiscord <Scout> close enough
11:44 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> -hub would probably be the closest thing to MTD lounge
11:44 MTDiscord <Scout> closish enough?
11:45 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> ish ish
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12:12 rubenwardy Hub is actually more strictly moderated. Offtooic is allowed here
12:12 rubenwardy Hub isn't used anymore anyway
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14:07 Norkle HI!
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14:59 Desour I just noticed: object selection is horrible. you need to get so close to the object origin that the origin is in hand range, so large selection boxes can not always be touched, even if you are directly next to it
15:00 sfan5 sounds like an easy fix
15:01 Desour yeah
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15:25 Fixer Calinou, just found your comment by random chance on youtube video about counter-strike... world is small lol
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15:49 jwmhjwmh Krock: Think you could re-review https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons/pull/605?
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17:12 Desour #12974
17:13 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12974 -- Object selection: Improve distance checks by Desour
17:13 Desour planes again
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18:36 Calinou Fixer: on ESCalation's latest video? :)
18:36 Fixer about player height in 1.6
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19:55 Coolguy12382 I have been having a problem with muiltcraft server list my server doesn't appear on the list
19:57 ROllerozxa and you're asking here?
19:57 Coolguy12382 Where else do I ask?
19:58 ROllerozxa this is minetest, not multicraft, we do not host the multicraft server list
19:59 Coolguy12382 Oh sry
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20:42 Coolguy12382 Is a max lag of  3.11.741 bad?
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21:04 MTDiscord <Scout> why is there 2 "."s 👀
21:04 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> yeah that's concerning
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