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FavoritoHJS |
How can you check if a player pressed a key outside of the main controls (as in directions, jump, crouch, aux, dig, place or zoom)? |
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FavoritoHJS |
it doesn't seem to be in the API, maybe with formspec shenanigans? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> No, and it's somewhat by design. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> You can't even tell if they HAVE any keys outside of bindings. |
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FavoritoHJS |
so that's going to make implementing a player listing kinda difficult... |
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FavoritoHJS |
what if it's jammed in the inventory? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> That's a common pattern and works well for many. There are API mods for adding stuff to inventory as like tabs or something. |
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MiniontobyPI |
Hi |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> hello |
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MiniontobyPI |
My matrix client doesnt want to send messages anymore |
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MiniontobyPI |
But yeah |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> FavoritoHJS: there's a player list mod by fleckenstein that shows a list of players online when you sneak, that's a pretty nondestructive use of the existing sneak keybind to implement it |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> https://content.minetest.net/packages/Fleckenstein/playerlist/ |
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FavoritoHJS |
I wonder if that can be made into a clientmod... |
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ROllerozxa |
unfortunately I don't think clientmods have access to the list of connected players... :( |
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ROllerozxa |
at least not currently, I don't know if dragonfire has something like this built-in but that is fleckenstein's creation, he might have added it in |
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ROllerozxa |
no wait, there's minetest.get_player_names() |
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ROllerozxa |
then I think that might actually be possible, yeah. clientmods can also add HUD elements, read player controls so you could very likely port over playerlist as a clientmod |
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FavoritoHJS |
never thought I'd say this after what you did to the archive... but thanks roller |
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Pexin |
servers can disallow csm access to get_player_names specifically I believe |
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FavoritoHJS |
I'm unsure if that's the default, though. |
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FavoritoHJS |
If it isn't, this could actually work |
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FavoritoHJS |
ofc I don't think you'll be able to use ping but that's a minor detail |
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FavoritoHJS |
might it be possible to write an inventory mod as a clientmod? |
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Desour |
FavoritoHJS: you mean, something similar to unified inventory? |
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Desour |
because that should be possible I think |
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Desour |
at least to some degree |
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Krock |
except that you cannot retrieve craft recipes |
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FavoritoHJS |
nevermind, that's going to be kinda impossible without crafting hooks |
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Krock |
and you cannot get a list of all registered items |
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FavoritoHJS |
i was also trying to see if you could hide some of the cruft in the crafting guide by making them hidden from creative (and by proxy, the craftguides) |
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FavoritoHJS |
but unless modifying what gets returned by `get_item_def()` modifies the item def, that's again impossible |
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FavoritoHJS |
(and even if it does I doubt that won't get patched) |
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FavoritoHJS |
wait, is the crafting area just an inventory extension? |
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Desour |
it is 3 separate lists |
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Desour |
(input, output and preview) |
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Krock |
you won't see the output list though. it's hidden and only used to keep the crafted items until you move them to another list (such as "main") |
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ROllerozxa |
FavoritoHJS: https://github.com/rollerozxa/playerlist_csm just threw together a quick and dirty POC of a clientmod port, requires a server that has the READ_PLAYERINFO CSM restriction disabled (unfortunately enabled by default...). the HUD is a bit fucky because for some reason the units seem to be different between SSM and CSM, but it shows that it surely can be done |
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ROllerozxa |
also my first foray into client modding... hooray :) |
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muurkha |
fucky-wucky! |
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FavoritoHJS |
hmm, we have `registered_on_receiving_chat_message`, and when a player logs in or out the server sends a chat message... |
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FavoritoHJS |
that could be a way to work around this restriction |
| 19:57 |
FavoritoHJS |
use /status to get the initial playerlist, and take careful note of player activity afterwards |
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ROllerozxa |
pretty sure it's just a client-sided red tape restriction to deter cheating, I don't think the server actually prevents you from receiving player info or the like in that way |
| 20:10 |
ROllerozxa |
yeah just tested, works fine to just rip the checks out in the client source code... deters scriptkiddies who can't compile I guess |
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FavoritoHJS |
recompilation won't really work for a mod meant to be plug and play... |
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ROllerozxa |
yes that's fair but I just meant that there's ways around it |
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roguesurgeon |
how do I get the irc for a server? |
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MTDiscord |
<SX> Claim channel on some irc network and then install one of irc mods. Some work direct from MT some need proxy server but there's instructions at least in git repos. |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> Maybe there is a sign saying where to chat for it... |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> Well, yes, who are you? A server owner or a player? |
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MTDiscord |
<MisterE> And, if you are a server owner, I suggest using matterbridge to bridge to the server, there are mods for that, and it can also bridge to discord, matrix, twitch, etc |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> more botting of the serverlist |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1029157578757910618/unknown.png |
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FavoritoHJS |
another thuesday |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Could be somebody saw that PAW had managed to get itself to the top of the list despite not having much real activity, and it gave them ideas. |
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FavoritoHJS |
inb4 the admin saw my ramblings and decided to do it himself |
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proller |
Jonathon: just stress test |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Ah, it might be best to run stress tests without server announce turned on :-) |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I guess it will go back to normal eventually at least |
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FavoritoHJS |
I sure hope it's just someone who kept server announce on when stress testing |
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proller |
btw mt networking still VERY slow |
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FavoritoHJS |
What tiers are considered "staff" in contentdb for reporting? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> editors and up |
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FavoritoHJS |
oh dear... as I fear there's an editor that's a pedo |
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FavoritoHJS |
what the heck do I do then? as if I report, he'll know |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> you are free to take things up with ruben in dms. |
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FavoritoHJS |
at what time does he get on? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> depends |
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FavoritoHJS |
please tell me he's on now... |
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FavoritoHJS |
like, I know he's online on, but for all I know he's afk |
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FavoritoHJS |
or worse, sleeping |
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