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IRC log for #minetest, 2022-04-13

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10:40 settl3r[m] Are calves catchable with nets before they grow into cows?
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10:57 orwell96 as far as I know, they are not. but I never tried it tbh
10:58 orwell96 but for cows anyway you have to use the lasso, not the net
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12:31 settl3r[m] Is diamond ore mineable with an iron pickaxe or only with bronze?
12:32 settl3r[m] Are there any ways to locate diamond ores?
12:32 settl3r[m] ..from a distance
12:35 sfan5 look closely and check if you see any ;)
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13:40 Oblomov sfan5: lol
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15:03 Pexin settl3r[m]: find out if the server youre on has the "prospector"item
15:04 settl3r[m] ty
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15:05 settl3r[m] by the way, would anyone of you like to join the server i play on? it is a hardcore (permadeath!) server :)
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15:06 settl3r[m] visibility of player names: 64 meters (in all 6 directions)
15:06 settl3r[m] Therefore, hiding is easy ^^
15:07 settl3r[m] (the server is 62^3 km, default)
15:08 settl3r[m] It has lots of useful mods installed (including a protection block, craftable with gold ingot)
15:08 Pexin i am bild. i am not fite.  :]
15:09 settl3r[m] The name of the server is: hightime hardcore survivor  (the name is not "survival", but it really is hardcore survival with dangerous mobs included, eg. dungeon master. Caves are extremely dangerous areas.)
15:10 settl3r[m] It has the Mithril mod included (can be found below -512m).
15:11 settl3r[m] what is a "fite" or "bild"? Names?
15:11 settl3r[m] ah.. fight and build?
15:11 Pexin yes
15:12 settl3r[m] Have you ever played on a YOLO-modded server?
15:12 Pexin no
15:12 settl3r[m] (dead players turn into hapless ghosts, which cant do anything, but chat in darkness ^^)
15:13 settl3r[m] if i can survive on such a server, any one can :)
15:13 settl3r[m] ok it was inactive, while i searched for my shelter etc.
15:13 settl3r[m] so i could use a bed to skip the nights ^^
15:14 settl3r[m] *anyone
15:14 definitelya_ Is there a way to revive a dead player, Don't Starve-style?
15:15 settl3r[m] not that i know of. the admin turned the server full hardcore in january ~2020 iirc
15:15 settl3r[m] before that, a revival was sometimes possible, but not anymore.
15:15 definitelya_ kk
15:15 settl3r[m] Are there other hardcore servers?
15:16 definitelya_ I never found any, so dunno.
15:18 settl3r[m] oh and that server also uses a mod which gnaws on your hunger bar, even if you do nothing. But it goes very slowly, so it isnt really a handicap, if you have (at least) a small farm.
15:18 settl3r[m] But it adds to the challenge, which i love ^^
15:19 settl3r[m] I believe, it takes ~1-2 minutes for the hunger to drop 1 point, when standing still (but havent measured that exactly yet).
15:20 settl3r[m] (it has the farming mod installed, you can craft burgers there :) and even bibimbap meals ^^)
15:24 settl3r[m] I wonder, which of these 3 food types is best: carrots, cucumber or tomatoes
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15:25 settl3r[m] (each fills 4 hunger points per unit and all are edible raw)
15:25 settl3r[m] Hello @Desour
15:25 settl3r[m] Would you like to play on a permadeath server?
15:26 definitelya_ coocoomber gang
15:26 Desour hi
15:26 settl3r[m] ah. Does cucumber grow the fastest?
15:26 settl3r[m] or has a higher yield than the others?
15:27 definitelya_ I am a noob lol, sorry.
15:27 definitelya_ Never really played Minetest a lot.
15:27 settl3r[m] lol ok ^^.
15:27 settl3r[m] Currently i'm drawn between these 3 foods and can't decide which to grow in bulk..
15:28 settl3r[m] (potatoes fill more, but need be baked with fuel)
15:28 settl3r[m] (1 potato fills 6 hunger points)
15:28 settl3r[m] (a bread fills 5 hunger)
15:28 settl3r[m] chicken fills 6 iirc, mutton fills 8 (?)
15:29 settl3r[m] and beef is one of the best (except burgers, which fill at least 18 points).
15:30 settl3r[m] luckily, a torch is enough, to grow all vegetables (even underground), in that server.
15:30 settl3r[m] but to grow trees, you need a brighter light source.
15:31 definitelya_ Did we ever port that Minecr#ft mod that allows you to "twerk" to grow trees? Sounds easy to do if it hasn't been done already.
15:32 settl3r[m] i use those small white glowing cubes, to grow my trees underground.
15:33 settl3r[m] you dont even need bonemeal.
15:33 settl3r[m] just have a tree chamber and patience.
15:33 settl3r[m] (and dirt and a high ceiling, of course)
15:34 settl3r[m] to grow grass, you also need that maximum bright lightsource
15:34 settl3r[m] ..which makes grass-growing cumbersome
15:34 settl3r[m] because, the grass only grows in adjacent blocks of these light-sources (it needs light level 14-15 ir seems)
15:35 settl3r[m] *it
15:37 settl3r[m] So this server is a tough but doable challenge (if you enter it during player inactivity, which happens often currently)
15:38 settl3r[m] i heard, there have been some PKers in the past, but currently it is pretty safe. So, carpe diem and settle while it is still easy ^^
15:38 settl3r[m] But, i advise to hide your bases, to be safe.
15:38 settl3r[m] Especially near spawn.
15:39 settl3r[m] oh, one very interesting treat of that server is, that you can build travelnet boxes, for instant teleportation.
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15:40 settl3r[m] (there is no other teleportation in that server, which massively adds to its immersion)
15:40 settl3r[m] orwell96_: Hello.
15:41 settl3r[m] Would you like to play in an interesting, immersive server?
15:41 settl3r[m] To build a travelnet, one needs Mese, which is only found deep underground. But you can build elevators, without Mese.
15:41 settl3r[m] (Elevators only transport vertically.)
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15:50 settl3r[m] Hello Verticen.
15:50 settl3r[m] i forgot to tell about an additional feat of above server: it uses the bag mod, where you can craft inventory-extenders with cotton, very useful for the long haul.
15:51 settl3r[m] (1 large bag has 24 slots and you can carry 4 of them)
15:51 Verticen hey, 'sup
15:51 settl3r[m] Would you like to play on this server?
15:51 settl3r[m] "hightime hardcore survivor"
15:52 settl3r[m] It is a fantastically immersive server.
15:52 settl3r[m] Has lots of useful mods.
15:52 settl3r[m] (has 28 slots)
15:52 settl3r[m] (*player slots) and a very good ping (located in Kansas)
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16:25 settl3r[m] umm.. where can i find clay?
16:25 settl3r[m] below lakes?
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16:25 settl3r[m] ah.. wiki..
16:27 settl3r[m] hokey.. *It can be found in small blobs inside sand under the water) between Y=0 and Y=-15. *
16:27 Desour settl3r[m]: see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U57znUramPY
16:27 settl3r[m] hm.. that is unfortunate.
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16:27 settl3r[m] thank you.
16:28 settl3r[m] do i need bronze, or can i do everything with iron?
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17:21 Verticen <settl3r[m]> Hey, I checked out that server you mentioned, seems kind of cool. What are peak player hours for it?
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20:37 Desour useful tip for programming in C++: keep your locale at your native language. error messages won't be more helpful, but they'll be more amusing. example: "Fehler: statische Erklärung gescheitert: result type must be constructible from value type of input range" (FYI, a static_assert in the STL failed)
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21:43 runs hi
22:00 erle hey runs where can i get your samz game?
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22:03 runs hi
22:04 runs Still not available. in two dayz it will be released. :-)
22:04 runs friday
22:05 runs In ContenDB and Youtube
22:05 runs I mean Github
22:05 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Not even on GH yet?  WTF?
22:07 runs No, cos the licenses. I had to create an appropiate license file.
22:07 runs But now it is ready
22:11 runs And for marketing reasons. People will be more anxious on launch day. Goebbles would be an apprentice next to me. Hi hi
22:11 kabou runs you're such a brilliant arketeer for comparing yourself to goebbels
22:11 kabou marketeer
22:12 MTDiscord <Jonathon> maybe there trying to finish there nazi mod again?
22:12 runs I do not know what you are talking about.
22:13 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ya know, the one you showed on matrix, before you got banned anyways
22:13 runs I can't remember.
22:15 erle is it called “mein kraft”
22:15 runs They asked me to come back anyway, but I didn't come back. Until they ask me on their knees.
22:15 MTDiscord <Jonathon> nobody has ever asked you back on a platform you have been banned on.
22:16 runs I don't remember that. Anyway what matters is that I'm going to launch a new game. That's the real news.
22:16 erle i am curious
22:16 runs Yes, privately.
22:16 erle so what did the nazi mod do?
22:17 runs I am not going to say who, if he wants me to say it, offered to unban me.
22:17 runs erle, pay no attention to rumors
22:17 erle i mean typically computer games with nazis in it involve killing them
22:17 erle but minetest is not about killing
22:25 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> glances at CTF
22:25 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Minetest is a game engine, it can be about whatever you want it to be about
22:26 v-rob[m] Of course, whether you can post the game you make on the forums or not does depend on the content...
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22:35 MTDiscord <Warr1024> The fact that minetest isn't inherently about anything is one of the things I like about it.
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23:48 erle Warr1024 it is inherently about cubes with a side length of about a meter
23:48 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> side length is completely arbitrary
23:48 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> it could be 1cm or 170ft for all anyone knows
23:49 erle what is ”ft”
23:49 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> feet
23:49 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> freedom units
23:49 erle how long is your feet?
23:49 erle show feet
23:49 erle 170 what long is the feet?
23:49 erle mm?
23:49 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Are you trolling or do you actually not know what a foot in measurement is
23:50 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> It may be an American unit but most people at least have the common decency to know what it is so they can make fun of us for it
23:51 erle i bet unix can help me here
23:51 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> 170ft is 51.816m
23:52 erle oh yeah i used the “units” program just now
23:53 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> 1 node could also represent 1 lightyear
23:53 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> people complaining about tiny map size eat your hearts out
23:54 erle ; units '170 feet' meters
23:54 erle * 51.816
23:54 erle / 0.019299058
23:54 erle this is funny, i think i never had to use that program before
23:54 erle GreenXenith is it true that americans do not use meters in daily life?
23:55 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> We do not use the metric system, no
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23:55 erle GreenXenith, so how do you do physics classes then?
23:55 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Everyone likes to make fun of us for it (including ourselves)
23:55 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Oh, we do use the metric system for some things
23:55 erle do you measure speeds in feet per second?
23:56 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> We do physics in both imperial and metric, we work with cars in both imperial and metric, and we measure soda (cola) in both imperial and metric
23:56 erle i mean in germany we have “1 mass bier” but that is not a unit you'd use unless you get drunk in bavaria
23:56 erle so normally people say how many liters or milliliters of fluid they want
23:57 erle GreenXenith is there some support for switching to what the rest of the world uses?
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23:58 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> For fluid we use stupid things called gallons, pints, quarts, cups, fluid ounces, tablespoons, and teaspoons.
23:58 MTDiscord <GreenXenith> Many of us would love to switch to metric, but imperial is so ingrained into our infrastructure it would probably be more harmful than its worth

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