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IRC log for #minetest, 2022-03-31

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15:19 kilbith rubenwardy: FYI: https://content.minetest.net/threads/2365/#reply-6416
15:20 erle > You are well known as a FOSS extremist within the community and this discrimination comes without any surprise.
15:20 erle lol
15:23 MTDiscord <Jonathon> while wuzzy is a foss extremist, the license upgrade is technically correct
15:24 kilbith package now have a discriminative tag that hurt its visibility, that's my problem
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15:24 kilbith red, alarm-y tag
15:25 erle almost as if there's some agenda to motivate people to make their stuff freely licensed
15:26 kilbith the end-users don't care if it's non-commercial
15:26 MTDiscord <Jonathon> kilbith: then use textures that arent NC
15:26 kilbith you're only shooting on your own foot if if you do that
15:26 erle i have an issue with “non-free media” being not a tag, but listed in a list besides tags (even if it is a different color)
15:26 kilbith xdecor is a popular mod and it has been since 2015
15:27 erle that way i can not explicitly look for non-free media mods :P
15:27 kilbith well fuck that
15:27 kilbith I deserve better than being part of this silly FOSS organization
15:29 erle i hope kilbith gets what kilbith deserves then ^^
15:29 MTDiscord <Jonathon> then why do you keep rage quiting and coming back? honest question
15:29 erle i think it is a bully thing
15:29 erle only that it does not work
15:30 MTDiscord <Jonathon> anyways, its 4 textures and one sounds, seems put up a forums announcement or something asking if anyone would be willing to make non nc textures to replace it, problem solved
15:30 erle you are correct, even being enraged about this is super stupid given how simple the problem is to solve
15:30 kabou well with his attitude, not a lot of ppl are gonna volunteer
15:31 erle well, people have to like xdecor, not kilbith
15:31 erle but yeah, decorating every argument with “and by the way, you all suck and i'm better than every single one of you” is not helping the cause lol
15:31 kabou if kilbith really liked xdecor, he could fix it himself, right?
15:32 kabou dude wants a free ride on free software's popularity, but hates free software
15:32 kabou nuts
15:32 erle no everyone else is wrong, obviously (because kilbith is better than everyone of them)
15:32 erle :P
15:36 erle maybe kilbith would indeed fare better in another community – like one where you can bitchslap someone making a joke on camera and get a prestiguous award 20 minutes later!
15:37 MTDiscord <Jonathon> seems like your taking the low blow path erle, to attack the debater rather than the point there making
15:38 erle i think we already established that the unfriendly ragequitter has a point, but it's a very weak one
15:39 erle you said it yourself, it's a few files, they can be fixed
15:39 MTDiscord <Jordach> how about spend the 5 minutes needed to fix em
15:39 erle if such a warning is making ppl fix it, it has done its job
15:39 MTDiscord <Jordach> rather than spending 5 minutes debating it
15:40 MTDiscord <Jonathon> well, if you want shit art, ill fix it, but otherwise ill differ to the artists/people actually good at making textures
15:40 erle yeah, making good textures takes way longer than 5 minutes, even at 16x16
15:41 erle maybe there's a texture pack that contains good textures to copy for this causee?
15:41 MTDiscord <Jonathon> seems like jordach might be volunteering to fix them then? :trollface:
15:43 erle jordach can your rivers flow through caves or below overhangs? because if you are shrinkwrapping them on terrain, i doubt it
15:48 MTDiscord <Jordach> they do if the noise do
15:48 erle explain pls
15:48 MTDiscord <Jordach> caves are generated after terrain + rivers
15:48 erle so first you get terrain, then rivers, then cavegen
15:49 erle wouldn't you have to be exceptionally lucky then to have a river flowing through a natural bridge?
15:49 MTDiscord <Jordach> yes, and there's a hefty pregeneration period
15:49 erle pregeneration?
15:49 MTDiscord <Jordach> i have to manually pathfind rivers
15:50 MTDiscord <Jordach> this only needs to be run once at startup
15:50 MTDiscord <Jordach> but takes something like 10 seconds on my Ryzen box
15:50 erle btw do you have an example for your minetest.after() idea in mapgen? cora claimed it's not working
15:50 erle so if you have working code, i'd be delighted
15:50 erle you manually pathfind *all* rivers?
15:50 MTDiscord <Jordach> yes with a very lazy algorith
15:50 MTDiscord <Jordach> m
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18:37 MTDiscord <GuyMad ThreepKamel> IRC
18:37 MTDiscord <GuyMad ThreepKamel> Discord but for nerds
18:39 * wsor resets days gone without hot takes counter to 0
18:46 Krock IRC is classy
18:46 ROllerozxa IRC is also kinda cozy
18:47 MTDiscord <Jonathon> https://xkcd.com/1782/
18:50 Krock let me guess. the one about the gateway to the singularity? (without clicking the link)
18:50 MTDiscord <Jonathon> yup
18:50 Krock I'm looking for some semi-transparent nodes. which mods contain such?
18:50 MTDiscord <Jonathon> abriglass
18:51 MTDiscord <Jonathon> any mod with liquids aka most games
18:51 Krock amazing thanks
18:51 sfan5 coloredglass?
18:51 sfan5 idk if that was a thing but there's probably one popular mod with colored glass
18:52 MTDiscord <Jonathon> did you want a specific type? (guessing your testing x2048 PR)
18:52 Krock no, I already had a bunch of random nodes by joining a server. seems fine.
18:52 Krock now testing the basics, just to be sure.
18:52 MTDiscord <Jonathon> fancy stained glass, or whatever the multicolor glass panes mod is called
18:53 MTDiscord <Jonathon> for variation ^
18:54 MTDiscord <Jonathon> stained glass if you want to test with hardware coloring
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20:40 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Tune shadow perspective distortion (#12146) 3157830 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/31578303a4eab6b6b083e57b6bf8d12ff3b3d991 (2022-03-31T20:40:06Z)
20:42 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Limit shadow map to the viewing range (#12158) 3dd7d78 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3dd7d7867b14058d3329f1ce2bd2e85713ff50b1 (2022-03-31T20:40:59Z)
20:51 MTDiscord <luatic> Krock: just add more semitransparency test nodes to devtest
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