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Yad |
Does `minetest.unregister_item(name)` let me delete node registrations? It appears the answer is yes. |
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independent56 |
First Screenshots; "I haven't given players flying rights", why are they flying? Second: "Oh, ok" https://imgur.com/a/89uZTx0 |
08:20 |
independent56 |
I love mapgen |
08:21 |
independent56 |
Oh also, by not using snap and using the default build, i fixed the sound problem |
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Oblomov |
independent56: lol |
09:06 |
Parnikkapore_m |
independent56: So that's why the server was offline yeaterday... |
09:06 |
independent56 |
Yes, too many hackers flying and disguising themselves as mapgen :p |
09:08 |
Parnikkapore_m |
I tried to hack advtrains to give me faster trains yeaterday (it's a single constant in the core + any necessary train updates; cheers to proper software engineering) |
09:08 |
Parnikkapore_m |
It actually works, somehow |
09:09 |
Parnikkapore_m |
LZB even searches farther and brakes + stops precisely at the right point |
09:09 |
Parnikkapore_m |
IIRC this is not recommended unless you want your players to see a bunch of ignore and your server's network bandwidth to explode |
09:10 |
Parnikkapore_m |
So there's still a place for HSF + Large Track Segments |
09:12 |
Parnikkapore_m |
^ re the broken balloon loops: Reminds me of when I worldedited the tracks |
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09:16 |
independent56 |
HSF will be built on hacking, just throwing tools at the advtrains core until it is faster. |
09:16 |
independent56 |
I have yet to continue work on it. |
09:16 |
independent56 |
But it is a project to be the best mod on the server |
09:26 |
independent56 |
I'm thinking of having my trains not stop. Before the platform, they go to 1 m/s, open the doors, reach the end, close the doors, and speed up. Is this a good idea? |
09:28 |
independent56 |
But the LZB searching further makes sense, Germans tend to use a lot of math for their precision enginerring |
09:31 |
independent56 |
With long platforms, it works quite well |
09:36 |
Parnikkapore_m |
re trains not stopping: I don't think that will save any more than a couple of seconds |
09:37 |
Parnikkapore_m |
Faster trains have longer braking distance too |
09:41 |
independent56 |
I know, but it is being used on the metro |
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09:43 |
independent56 |
It allows the trains to be less worn down as the inital shock of starting is reduces. |
09:45 |
Parnikkapore_m |
Interesting, can you send me a link? |
09:52 |
independent56 |
Not really. |
09:52 |
independent56 |
But i can tell you how it works. |
09:52 |
independent56 |
It uses ATC tracks |
09:53 |
independent56 |
B5 <-50m -> B1WOL <- Platform -> OCSM |
09:55 |
independent56 |
or 100 m if your trains go at 20 m/s |
09:55 |
independent56 |
But on metros they shpuld go slowr |
10:19 |
independent56 |
Welp, updating mapserver brings baack the locking error |
10:20 |
independent56 |
It's either parsing errors or database locking :-/ |
10:21 |
independent56 |
https://pastebin.com/b7ra1D73 |
10:23 |
independent56 |
Oh and also, http://56i.duckdns.org:8080/#!/map/0/10/-256/-2742 does not render correctly. There are East-West tracks, but they won't show |
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independent56 |
Ah,now its here |
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Volker |
Hi! I want to convert my SQLite3 world to postgres for performance reasions, but when I try to convert the world, it tells me: Failed to modify sqlite3 synchronous mode: database is locked. |
11:24 |
Volker |
My Server is not running though.. |
11:24 |
Volker |
Does anybody have a clue? |
11:24 |
Volker |
I am on git master |
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Volker |
SQLite3 database has been locked for 3000 ms - giving up! - see the full log at https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ca8299cf/ |
11:29 |
independent56 |
Is anything else running on the database? |
11:29 |
independent56 |
Say mapserver? |
11:29 |
independent56 |
*, |
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11:30 |
Volker |
No |
11:31 |
Volker |
I also increased the timout to 30s and it still fails ._. |
11:31 |
Oblomov |
Volker: does lsof of the world file say anything interesting |
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11:32 |
Volker |
Oblomov no, if I do "lsof world" or "lsof minetest", nothing indicates any file use |
11:33 |
Oblomov |
no idea then |
11:34 |
Volker |
Hm, maybe if I build the client too? ._. |
11:34 |
Oblomov |
don't see how that would help |
11:34 |
Volker |
same |
11:34 |
Oblomov |
sudo lsof /path/to/world/dir/* |
11:35 |
Oblomov |
(in my case for example running as user shows nothing, because the server is being hosted as Debian-minetest |
11:35 |
Oblomov |
) |
11:35 |
Volker |
nothing |
11:35 |
independent56 |
Is it realistic that 1 - The ballon loop has it's points permenently set to the side? 2 - Buffer stops are at the end to stop trains, allowing easy expansion? https://i.imgur.com/CElLrc4.png |
11:35 |
Oblomov |
Volker: permissions? is the user you're using to run the conversion the same that runs the server normally? |
11:36 |
Volker |
yes |
11:36 |
Oblomov |
ok I'm out of ideas then sorry |
11:36 |
Volker |
Still thank you! I'll try to dumb debug a bit then |
11:37 |
Oblomov |
you could try strace to see what get called and what kind of errors get returned |
11:37 |
Volker |
It's been a while. is it just appending "strace" at the front? |
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Volker |
it is :D |
11:39 |
Volker |
Huh, I *do* get a bunch of EACCES |
11:50 |
Volker |
Super confusing - I can set a lock as the user which executes the binary, but the binary does not have permission to lock the file? |
11:50 |
Volker |
omg wait |
11:50 |
Volker |
MAC |
11:51 |
Volker |
I forgot I even set that up ^^"""" |
11:51 |
Volker |
big shock: it works |
11:51 |
Volker |
thanks Oblomov anyway ^^' |
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Oblomov |
Volker: so what was the issue? |
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Volker |
Oblomov I am a bit more confused now. Because I am 100% sure that apparmor did not allow locking that file, but I am confused why the server ran without problems? Because the server has to lock the db too ._. |
12:34 |
Oblomov |
no idea |
12:37 |
Volker |
Apparently it doesnt actively lock it while running, maybe it has an automatic lock since it is reading it? Anyway, that's out of scope for me. I know what went wrong and now I have a super speedy server :vroom: |
12:37 |
Volker |
I might just upstream that apparmor profile too |
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independent56 |
https://i.imgur.com/gPV7pqc.png |
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independent56 |
The dev version makes it easy to use //deleteblocks and gives shadows |
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independent56 |
Why did i use snap for so long? |
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15:09 |
ROllerozxa |
death to snap, lol |
15:09 |
independent56 |
It's useful in some situtations. but really, damn it |
15:09 |
ROllerozxa |
ubuntu always installs snaps over regular packages right? |
15:09 |
independent56 |
Why use snap when you can do */1 * * * * sudo apt update in crontab? :p |
15:10 |
independent56 |
Dunno |
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independent56 |
Ubuntu has a package manager, but unsure of whether it is purely snap or a hybrid |
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independent56 |
And it probably gets snap before apt because of autoupdate |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> @a fluffy... Dashie? (ROllerozxa) who uses the GUI to install packages anyways? |
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ROllerozxa |
wat |
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independent56 |
It helps me find cool packages i wouldn't find anywhere |
15:50 |
independent56 |
snap and apt from the command line are like a grocery store. You know whats there. The GUI is like a charity shop. The selected products are cool and constantly change. |
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independent56 |
*Selected products change, products themseleves remain the same |
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luizsab |
good morning! I forget how to activate minetest in ubuntu server... I already permiss on ufw port 30000, but I got the erro time exceed |
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luizsab |
in the conf is setting up to announce server and the bind address to the server |
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erlehmann |
luizsab have you permitted both TCP and UDP traffic? |
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Krock |
Minetest only needs UDP 30000 for outside requests, announces happen on a regular basis from the MT server to the master server and do not require forwards |
16:55 |
Krock |
different story if HTTP remote media is enabled |
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rubenwardy |
make sure you enable ipv6 in MT if your network has ipv6 |
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luizsab |
I didn't mencioned, just ufw allow 30000 |
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luizsab |
I'll change |
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luizsab |
in the debug i got the error about bind socket it ask if already in use |
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rubenwardy |
make sure you only run the server once |
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kabou |
rubenwardy celeron55 who can update the mineclone2 topic's top post ownership? |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
kabou: any moderator |
20:19 |
rubenwardy |
if you want to transfer ownership, then please get Fleckenstein to request it |
20:20 |
kabou |
mineclone2 has changed maintainer and corastenthtry needs to take fleckenstein's place |
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kabou |
cora is afraid to ask on #minetestlol |
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kabou |
fleckenstein sort of ragequit (not due to cora btw) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> "ragequit"? He's still very much reachable and in contact with cora, why are you trying to go over his head? |
20:52 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> I'll just ping him over here on Discord. @Fleckenstein please request that ownership of the MCL2 topic be transferred to cora. |
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kabou |
luatic I'm asking on behalf of cora, she's on #mineclone2 if you want to ask her |
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kabou |
and yes, she confirmed she is in contact with fleckenstein |
21:03 |
kabou |
btw i said "sort of ragequit" |
21:04 |
kabou |
https://git.minetest.land/EliasFleckenstein03/Memeclone |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> memeclone xd |
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lagash |
16 y.o. lol |
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kabou |
a new meaning for genderfluid anyway |
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Guest3350 |
i'm trying to find where i can install the `cavestuff` metapackage, but i can't find it except for in other packages |
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Guest3350 |
where do i get it? |
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23:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> well, your obviously on cdb, what requires it? |
23:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> cavestuff is provided in plantlife modpack |
23:35 |
rubenwardy |
https://content.minetest.net/metapackages/cavestuff/ |
23:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://content.minetest.net/packages/VanessaE/plantlife_modpack/ |
23:35 |
rubenwardy |
Provided by > Mods |
23:35 |
rubenwardy |
lists plantlife, as said |
23:37 |
Guest3350 |
well, useful to know i guess lol |
23:37 |
Guest3350 |
it sucks that i have to have an unrelated plant mod to get caves |
23:38 |
Guest3350 |
well, i guess i mean large, expansive, open-space type caves |
23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> cavestuff is a terrible name |
23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> all it does is add those (in my opinion annoying) pebbles all over the place |
23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> not really even in caves |
23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://github.com/mt-mods/plantlife_modpack/blob/master/cavestuff/mapgen.lua |
23:39 |
Guest3350 |
oh |
23:40 |
Guest3350 |
so do i need caverealms or something? |
23:40 |
Guest3350 |
there's a server i play on that i really miss, that has these giant wide open caves to mine in, that just go on forever |
23:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> most likely caverealms |
23:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> what server? |
23:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> could be dfcaverns, or some other mod, but highly unlikely on a server |
23:41 |
Guest3350 |
it was wunderweltr |
23:41 |
Guest3350 |
wunderwelt* |
23:41 |
Guest3350 |
they only release their modpack thru /mods, which is really annoying |
23:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> they use caverealms |
23:42 |
Guest3350 |
ah |
23:42 |
Guest3350 |
thanks |
23:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> most servers send there mods to serverlist |
23:42 |
Guest3350 |
wunderwelt doesn't though, and i've even asked juri about what mods are used and he doesn't wanna say |
23:43 |
Guest3350 |
but, any suggestions on mods that go well with technic or technic plus? |
23:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> servers.minetest.net, hover over version, else servers.minetest.net/list if you want it json |
23:43 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> wunderwelt does as i just looked lol |
23:43 |
Guest3350 |
oh ok |
23:44 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> use mt-mods technic(technic plus), minetest-mods technic is basically outdate/obsolete |
23:44 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> greenxenith has a fork of technic chest you could try out, i rather like its interaction with areas, not something if your playing in singleplayer |
23:44 |
Guest3350 |
should i switch content repositories? |
23:45 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> swapping out minetest-mods technic for mt-mods technic, you should have any issues |
23:46 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> if your also using advance trains with technic, try out https://content.minetest.net/packages/gpcf/technictrain/ kinda neat |
23:46 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also digilines (digistuff, etc) if your not using it already |
23:46 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://content.minetest.net/packages/OgelGames/powerbanks/ is useful for dragging power with you |
23:48 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> digtron if you want to dig huge areas, note it is sorta buggy |
23:48 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> can connect it to power as to not burn fuel all the time |
23:49 |
Guest3350 |
what mod was it that added the circular saw and multiblocks? |
23:50 |
Guest3350 |
specifically super glow glass, and super glow glass slabs |
23:50 |
Guest3350 |
moreblocks, right? |
23:51 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> yes |
23:52 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> invsaw if you want the ability to have the saw in your inventory |