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01:01 merazi Umm.. Hi
01:01 merazi I'm having some issues trying to install some mods :'(
01:02 merazi mineclone2 to be specific
01:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> what mods?
01:07 merazi when I try launch a mineclone2 game it says something about the "default" mod
01:07 merazi Mod dependency "default" not found!
01:07 merazi From the debug.txt file
01:09 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you have some mod enabled that depends on default mod from mtg
01:21 MTDiscord <MisterE> ogg streaming is not implemented yet is it?
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01:29 merazi is there a way of installing this "default" mod?
01:30 merazi I wasn't able to find it in the game's menu
01:30 MTDiscord <Jonathon> its in minetest game, you could copy it over, but its not going to make any sense
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01:55 merazi what could be a good solution?
02:13 MTDiscord <MisterE> not much good solution here... you could learn a bit of coding and fix the mod you want to not need default.
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02:24 merazi hmmmm
02:24 merazi will try, wish me luck
02:51 rubenwardy merazi: yeah, when a mod depends on default it requires Minetest Game. Is there an alternative that works with mineclone2? If not, you may have to adjust the code like wsor said
02:51 rubenwardy And good kuck
02:51 rubenwardy *luck
02:51 rubenwardy *mistere
02:56 merazi :P
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18:18 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Lua API: Consistently use double vs. single quotes (#12075) 0a0fb11 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/0a0fb11c218cf6c9ac419a8b4fda759fa3ed96e1 (2022-02-22T18:17:08Z)
18:18 MinetestBot [git] erlehmann -> minetest/minetest: Add TGA test nodes to devtest (#11978) 7c227d2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7c227d2a004068267dbe713259d57374a70c29e4 (2022-02-22T18:17:40Z)
18:18 MinetestBot [git] Desour -> minetest/minetest: FormspecMenu: make drawing of backgrounds less hacky (#9517) 633e23b https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/633e23bd6523d4ff14329e8429c2eaf795e6e128 (2022-02-22T18:17:53Z)
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20:21 fluxionary so, am i reading the docs right? player metadata inventories don't have anything like "allow_put" or "on_put"?
20:23 definitelya รน
20:23 definitelya my cat lol
20:37 erlehmann fluxionary if you want to limit player inventories, look at the restrictions on ender chests in mineclonia
20:38 fluxionary https://git.minetest.org/Mineclonia/Mineclonia is throwing a 500
20:38 erlehmann fluxionary https://git.minetest.land/Mineclonia/Mineclonia/pulls/193/files
20:39 erlehmann fluxionary it is https://git.minetest.land/Mineclonia/Mineclonia
20:39 erlehmann okay, i guess we have to put it on contentdb
20:39 erlehmann you are the second person in about as many days going to the wrong page
20:39 fluxionary okay, i got that
20:39 erlehmann anyways, that PR helps you right?
20:39 fluxionary erlehmann, that's the first hit my search engine gave back
20:39 fluxionary yup
20:40 fluxionary register_allow_player_inventory_action etc. were the function i was looking for.
20:40 erlehmann here is some more contexts https://git.minetest.land/Mineclonia/Mineclonia/pulls/193
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20:40 erlehmann Alternatives:
20:40 erlehmann MisterE suggested to use detached inventories on minetest IRC
20:40 erlehmann @cora suggested to save the echest inventory in mod storage
20:40 erlehmann Both solutions require more code and seem more likely to introduce bugs (dupes, info leaks etc.).
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21:32 erlehmann rubenwardy i have a question about contentdb: i think kay27 wants to use unfinished code and/or schematics from me. i told him that it is fine if he fixes the remaining issues and enumerated them, but that he does not have my permission to use the thing if it is not finished, because then ppl might complain to me about it (I have had such an experience in the past). juuuuuuusst in case he does not fix it, could i complain to
21:32 erlehmann contentdb? or do yuo consider a PR to a project (mineclonia) the same licensing as the project, in which I have no recourse?
21:32 erlehmann in which case
21:37 erlehmann to be clear, i have no issues with mcl5 taking whatever i have finished
21:37 erlehmann i just do not want to be associated with stuff that is clearly marked as WIP and will change again
21:38 erlehmann and i have absolutely no interest in mcl5 players complaining to me w hen it breaks in incompatble ways
21:40 rubenwardy From a legal point of view, you can't revoke LGPL
21:40 rubenwardy IANAL obviously
21:41 erlehmann well mineclonia is GPLv3
21:41 erlehmann but i'd say my patchset is not part of the project until merged
21:42 rubenwardy Doesn't matter. When you create a derivative of the code and share it, it's granted under the same rights unless you say otherwise
21:42 erlehmann i guess if he does not fix the issues, i should maybe just stop making public content instead of deadling with this stuff
21:42 erlehmann oh, obviously
21:42 erlehmann thanks
21:42 rubenwardy And saying otherwise would be making it AGPL
21:43 rubenwardy Couldn't you fix the issue?
21:43 erlehmann i just haven't gotten to it
21:43 rubenwardy Also, why would they blame you. Could ask not to be credited
21:43 erlehmann the schematic spawning needs to rotate nodes
21:43 erlehmann wait, i require to be credited
21:43 erlehmann of course i do
21:43 MTDiscord <Sublayer plank> wouldn't it be better to just bring this up to kay27 instead lol
21:45 erlehmann i told him that i or he should fix the issues
21:46 erlehmann but i do not trust him
21:46 erlehmann and he has been rather unfriendly lately
21:46 erlehmann i think i take much more care during mod design, even if it means i take much longer
21:47 erlehmann like, i think crying obsidian should be a separate mod
21:47 erlehmann so that a respawn anchor can depend on it
21:47 erlehmann it is on the todo
21:48 erlehmann the tasks are all not complex, but they are work
21:49 erlehmann Subplayer plank for example, when you place a schematic rotated, you have to account for nodes that have a different equivalent when rotated
21:49 erlehmann than themselves
21:50 erlehmann for example, walls or mesecons
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21:51 erlehmann rubenwardy users would blame me for the same reason that users blame the original author of a software that is super old in debian lol
22:09 definitelya erlehmann: There should be a rule: you can't complain, unless you are a contributor.
22:10 erlehmann definitelya lol
22:10 definitelya What? It's true.
22:10 erlehmann look, it is easy. i can stop publishing things.
22:11 MTDiscord <Jonathon> not much would be lost tbh
22:12 definitelya oof, Mineclon- are neat though.
22:12 erlehmann could you please tell me what i have done to you to downvote everything i write on github and be so unfriendly?
22:12 erlehmann Jonathon you really don't need to try to become like kilbith #2
22:12 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood
22:12 definitelya ShadowBot: charcoal?
22:13 MTDiscord <Jonathon> #1
22:13 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1 -- GlowStone code by anonymousAwesome
22:13 definitelya lel
22:13 MTDiscord <Jonathon> its just linking issues/prs when it finds # and numbers
22:13 definitelya Indeed
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