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cheapie |
Hmm, I should try MT over dialup sometime to see how that goes... |
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cheapie |
(not on this computer, no 3D acceleration in here) |
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greeter |
cheapie: be sure to use a POTS line if you do that. a VoIP line will not work in most cases without some modifications |
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mugli[m] |
Anyone else seeing connection issues to your-land.de? |
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tech_exorcist |
sooooo how do you get rid of an off-track train in advtrains? oops |
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tech_exorcist |
or is it possible to destroy a train by train ID? |
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tech_exorcist |
well nvm |
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tech_exorcist |
I edited a file (can't recall which) to suppress the check about whether the train is off-track when splitting it, and the off-track train disappeared |
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tech_exorcist |
then I restored the original code, and the world seems to be working fine |
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tech_exorcist |
note to self: when driving a train to a junction, make sure the junction is set to where the train is coming FROM |
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Yad |
In GitHub, if I submit a pull request and then do additional commits on my branch, will the maintainer of the upstream pull all those commits into the upstream branch when accepting the pull request, or just those I committed before submitting the pull request? |
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erlehmann |
Yad probably all of them |
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erlehmann |
but you can just check it |
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erlehmann |
github shows what commits are included in a PR |
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Yad |
erlehmann: Okay good! This stuff is starting to actually make sense in my brain. :D |
| 20:33 |
Yad |
erlehmann: Hmm, yeah but I couldn't tell if that's "included" or just showing recent commits |
| 20:33 |
Yad |
erlehmann: because of how it's laid out on the screen |
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erlehmann |
Yad have you read the man page for “git request-pull” ? |
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erlehmann |
a pull request is a request to pull from a branch |
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erlehmann |
a branch points to a commit, but where it points is mutable. |
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Yad |
erlehmann: Hmm, I was told pull requests are not part of the `git` specification, and are rather implemented by GitHub |
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erlehmann |
Yad they took over that word |
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Yad |
erlehmann: heheh, which word though? |
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erlehmann |
github appropriated the phrase “pull request”. but do “man git request-pull” and see for yourself, |
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Yad |
erlehmann: Excellent, I shall. :) |
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erlehmann |
also look at the commands “git format-patch” and “git am” if you want to send or release patches via email or something |
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Yad |
erlehmann: ooooh, yes the hyphenation of `request-pull` is important for getting to the manual pages! :D |
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erlehmann |
or just post a patch as a textfile |
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Pexin |
then why the fsck does github use a proprietary custom mechanism if git already supports the principle? |
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* Pexin |
sputters incoherently and writhes on the floor |
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erlehmann |
Pexin because its facebook for boomer/zoomer devs basically |
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* Yad |
feels your pain. |
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erlehmann |
same reason as why twitter needs multiple jiggabytes of javascript to display a 140 character string |
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erlehmann |
multiple h.r. gigerbytes hehe |
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erlehmann |
(scary) |
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Pexin |
artificial complexity. dev's gotta get paid. |
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Pexin |
I GUESS. |
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erlehmann |
na i think it is that advertisers are scum |
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Yad |
So are there proper implementations of `git` without the GitHub proprietary nonsense? GitLab perhaps? |
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erlehmann |
the lock-in happens not through pull requests |
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Pexin |
Yad: you mean hosting. and anybody can set up a git host, but for scale someone has to maintain it. |
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erlehmann |
the lock-in happens through a centralized issue tracker and something |
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erlehmann |
Yad you can use gitea or gitlab to setup something yourself. or you can host a git repository on your own web space even without any web interface. |
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Yad |
Pexin: I was thinking more in terms of the ability to connect to the hosting using VSCodium. xD |
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erlehmann |
Yad https://git.minetest.land is a gitea instance |
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Yad |
erlehmann: I noticed that ... yes precisely! that site supports GitHub OAuth? |
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erlehmann |
i suggest to not auth with github |
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Yad |
I prefer that as well. |
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erlehmann |
because then you can not login when github is down lol |
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erlehmann |
as happened recently |
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Yad |
Indeed. |
| 20:46 |
Yad |
Ohhh |
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erlehmann |
“recently” |
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Yad |
hahah |
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Yad |
Not that the world revolves around VSCodium, but it's the pseudo-IDE I've gotten working just recently. |
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erlehmann |
Yad https://git.minetest.land/user/sign_up |
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erlehmann |
i have no idea what VSCodium is though |
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Yad |
So I'm very interested in whether I can use VSCodium (not Visual Studio Code) to sign in. |
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Pexin |
gitlab is even worse than github in terms of requiring js for basic frontend functionality. at least github lets me browse the file tree. except on mobile. X[ |
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Yad |
erlehmann: Hahah, thanks --- oddly that URL is actually very useful for you to have sent me! There does not appear to be any link to it on the pages. |
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erlehmann |
Yad which is why i sent it to you. i have had to search for it myself hehe. |
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Yad |
erlehmann: ^___^v |
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definitelya |
Speaking of locking users in: I saw you mentioned Facebook too; the term "social network" is way too vague for it. |
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definitelya |
I mean, two people tlaking IS a social network already; Facebook is only added cruft... |
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definitelya |
s/tlaking/talking |
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Pexin |
and datamining |
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definitelya |
^ |
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Pexin |
my own brother refused to believe it when he was told I have no facebook acct |
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Yad |
Pexin: hahahah |
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Pexin |
"oh he just doesn't want us to see it" |
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rubenwardy |
Pexin: because git doesn't support the principle |
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rubenwardy |
it has some tools for formatting emails, but that's not the same |
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Pexin |
oh so it just sends the squashed diff over email? |
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Pexin |
actually nevermind, it doesn't matter |
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SwissalpS |
I'm confused about translations. I have: local smth = S('Something') print smth then in my translation file I have: Something=Algo |
| 21:15 |
SwissalpS |
so far it works, prints 'Algo' |
| 21:17 |
SwissalpS |
but when I do: local smth = S('Nr. %s/%s') print smth:format(x,y) and in translation files I have: Nr. %s/%s=No. %s/%s |
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SwissalpS |
it doesn't seem to translate anymore. |
| 21:18 |
SwissalpS |
it prints Nr. 4/44 instead of No. 4/44 |
| 21:20 |
Krock |
use S("Foo @1/@2", arg1, arg2) rather than string.format SwissalpS |
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SwissalpS |
changing to Nr. @%s/@%s didn't help either |
| 21:20 |
Krock |
string.format destroys the translatable string |
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SwissalpS |
I believed the translator returned a string with I could then manipulate further. |
| 21:24 |
Krock |
no |
| 21:24 |
Krock |
it must be kept as-is. |
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SwissalpS |
so the variable smth is actually a function? |
| 21:26 |
Krock |
S() is kind-of a string.format function if you meant that |
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SwissalpS |
print(type(smth)) -> nil |
| 21:28 |
Krock |
no, it should be a string starting with \x1b (ESC) |
| 21:29 |
SwissalpS |
hmm, must've done something wrong. So what happens when I pass it through core.formspec_escape()? do I get a 'normal' string that I can manipulate? |
| 21:30 |
Krock |
you do get a string which can be used with core.formspec_escape in the formspec context |
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Krock |
or plain, if no escaping is needed. |
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SwissalpS |
thank you. I wish I could just say, thanks for translating, I'll take it from here somehow. Otherwise I have a lot of refactoring work to do |
| 21:36 |
SwissalpS |
some kind of finalize(smth) :{ |
| 21:47 |
SwissalpS |
smth:sub(14):format(x) kinda works. Doesn't get rid of the leading escape though |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: Override local_animation settings for certain animations acc9184 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/acc918436afec1a629891e8d95cf3b3621728a31 (2022-01-20T21:48:59Z) |
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SwissalpS |
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