Time  Nick          Message
00:44 cheapie       Hmm, I should try MT over dialup sometime to see how that goes...
00:44 cheapie       (not on this computer, no 3D acceleration in here)
03:33 greeter       cheapie: be sure to use a POTS line if you do that. a VoIP line will not work in most cases without some modifications
16:11 mugli[m]      Anyone else seeing connection issues to your-land.de?
18:17 tech_exorcist sooooo how do you get rid of an off-track train in advtrains? oops
18:18 tech_exorcist or is it possible to destroy a train by train ID?
18:27 tech_exorcist well nvm
18:28 tech_exorcist I edited a file (can't recall which) to suppress the check about whether the train is off-track when splitting it, and the off-track train disappeared
18:28 tech_exorcist then I restored the original code, and the world seems to be working fine
18:29 tech_exorcist note to self: when driving a train to a junction, make sure the junction is set to where the train is coming FROM
20:31 Yad           In GitHub, if I submit a pull request and then do additional commits on my branch, will the maintainer of the upstream pull all those commits into the upstream branch when accepting the pull request, or just those I committed before submitting the pull request?
20:32 erlehmann     Yad probably all of them
20:32 erlehmann     but you can just check it
20:32 erlehmann     github shows what commits are included in a PR
20:32 Yad           erlehmann: Okay good! This stuff is starting to actually make sense in my brain. :D
20:33 Yad           erlehmann: Hmm, yeah but I couldn't tell if that's "included" or just showing recent commits
20:33 Yad           erlehmann: because of how it's laid out on the screen
20:33 erlehmann     Yad have you read the man page for “git request-pull” ?
20:33 erlehmann     a pull request is a request to pull from a branch
20:33 erlehmann     a branch points to a commit, but where it points is mutable.
20:34 Yad           erlehmann: Hmm, I was told pull requests are not part of the `git` specification, and are rather implemented by GitHub
20:34 erlehmann     Yad they took over that word
20:34 Yad           erlehmann: heheh, which word though?
20:35 erlehmann     github appropriated the phrase “pull request”. but do “man git request-pull” and see for yourself,
20:35 Yad           erlehmann: Excellent, I shall. :)
20:35 erlehmann     also look at the commands “git format-patch” and “git am” if you want to send or release patches via email or something
20:36 Yad           erlehmann: ooooh, yes the hyphenation of `request-pull` is important for getting to the manual pages! :D
20:36 erlehmann     or just post a patch as a textfile
20:40 Pexin         then why the fsck does github use a proprietary custom mechanism if git already supports the principle?
20:40 * Pexin       sputters incoherently and writhes on the floor
20:41 erlehmann     Pexin because its facebook for boomer/zoomer devs basically
20:42 * Yad         feels your pain.
20:42 erlehmann     same reason as why twitter needs multiple jiggabytes of javascript to display a 140 character string
20:43 erlehmann     multiple h.r. gigerbytes hehe
20:43 erlehmann     (scary)
20:43 Pexin         artificial complexity. dev's gotta get paid.
20:43 Pexin         I GUESS.
20:43 erlehmann     na i think it is that advertisers are scum
20:44 Yad           So are there proper implementations of `git` without the GitHub proprietary nonsense? GitLab perhaps?
20:44 erlehmann     the lock-in happens not through pull requests
20:44 Pexin         Yad: you mean hosting. and anybody can set up a git host, but for scale someone has to maintain it.
20:44 erlehmann     the lock-in happens through a centralized issue tracker and something
20:45 erlehmann     Yad you can use gitea or gitlab to setup something yourself. or you can host a git repository on your own web space even without any web interface.
20:45 Yad           Pexin: I was thinking more in terms of the ability to connect to the hosting using VSCodium. xD
20:45 erlehmann     Yad https://git.minetest.land is a gitea instance
20:45 Yad           erlehmann: I noticed that ... yes precisely! that site supports GitHub OAuth?
20:46 erlehmann     i suggest to not auth with github
20:46 Yad           I prefer that as well.
20:46 erlehmann     because then you can not login when github is down lol
20:46 erlehmann     as happened recently
20:46 Yad           Indeed.
20:46 Yad           Ohhh
20:46 erlehmann     “recently”
20:46 Yad           hahah
20:47 Yad           Not that the world revolves around VSCodium, but it's the pseudo-IDE I've gotten working just recently.
20:47 erlehmann     Yad https://git.minetest.land/user/sign_up
20:47 erlehmann     i have no idea what VSCodium is though
20:47 Yad           So I'm very interested in whether I can use VSCodium (not Visual Studio Code) to sign in.
20:47 Pexin         gitlab is even worse than github in terms of requiring js for basic frontend functionality. at least github lets me browse the file tree. except on mobile.   X[
20:48 Yad           erlehmann: Hahah, thanks --- oddly that URL is actually very useful for you to have sent me! There does not appear to be any link to it on the pages.
20:48 erlehmann     Yad which is why i sent it to you. i have had to search for it myself hehe.
20:49 Yad           erlehmann: ^___^v
20:52 definitelya   Speaking of locking users in: I saw you mentioned Facebook too; the term "social network" is way too vague for it.
20:53 definitelya   I mean, two people tlaking IS a social network already; Facebook is only added cruft...
20:53 definitelya   s/tlaking/talking
20:53 Pexin         and datamining
20:53 definitelya   ^
20:54 Pexin         my own brother refused to believe it when he was told I have no facebook acct
20:54 Yad           Pexin: hahahah
20:55 Pexin         "oh he just doesn't want us to see it"
20:58 rubenwardy    Pexin: because git doesn't support the principle
20:58 rubenwardy    it has some tools for formatting emails, but that's not the same
20:58 Pexin         oh so it just sends the squashed diff over email?
20:59 Pexin         actually nevermind, it doesn't matter
21:15 SwissalpS     I'm confused about translations. I have: local smth = S('Something') print smth       then in my translation file I have: Something=Algo
21:15 SwissalpS     so far it works, prints 'Algo'
21:17 SwissalpS     but when I do: local smth = S('Nr. %s/%s') print smth:format(x,y)       and in translation files I have: Nr. %s/%s=No. %s/%s
21:17 SwissalpS     it doesn't seem to translate anymore.
21:18 SwissalpS     it prints Nr. 4/44 instead of No. 4/44
21:20 Krock         use S("Foo @1/@2", arg1, arg2)  rather than string.format  SwissalpS
21:20 SwissalpS     changing to  Nr. @%s/@%s didn't help either
21:20 Krock         string.format destroys the translatable string
21:23 SwissalpS     I believed the translator returned a string with I could then manipulate further.
21:24 Krock         no
21:24 Krock         it must be kept as-is.
21:25 SwissalpS     so the variable smth is actually a function?
21:26 Krock         S() is kind-of a string.format function if you meant that
21:27 SwissalpS     print(type(smth)) -> nil
21:28 Krock         no, it should be a string starting with \x1b (ESC)
21:29 SwissalpS     hmm, must've done something wrong. So what happens when I pass it through core.formspec_escape()? do I get a 'normal' string that I can manipulate?
21:30 Krock         you do get a string which can be used with core.formspec_escape in the formspec context
21:31 Krock         or plain, if no escaping is needed.
21:36 SwissalpS     thank you. I wish I could just say, thanks for translating, I'll take it from here somehow. Otherwise I have a lot of refactoring work to do
21:36 SwissalpS     some kind of finalize(smth) :{
21:47 SwissalpS     smth:sub(14):format(x) kinda works. Doesn't get rid of the leading escape though
21:50 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Override local_animation settings for certain animations 13acc9184 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/acc918436afec1a629891e8d95cf3b3621728a31 (152022-01-20T21:48:59Z)
23:58 SwissalpS     /9/4