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10:26 independent56 how do i do calculations directly in worldedit, like //c z 9*2 ?
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10:27 independent56 And what about in two directions, giving the same effect as //multi //copy z 18 //shift z 18 // move x 9 ?
10:31 sfan5 I think the answer is you don't
10:38 independent56 :-(
10:38 independent56 I gues i am going to have to learn my times tables
10:39 independent56 but i am year 11, i guess it's about time.
10:39 AristotIe indeed, tis about times :P
10:39 independent56 Darn it, i have to put in effort
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12:56 independent56 Generally, when creating new buildings, should they be 4 or 3 blocks tall?
12:56 independent56 What do you prefer?
12:59 AristotIe I prefer 4
12:59 AristotIe or maybe even 5
13:00 AristotIe but kinda up to you, personal preference
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13:00 sfan5 make sure to reserve space for the electrical installation in the ceiling ;)
13:01 AristotIe indeed
13:01 AristotIe gotta have those automatic lights
13:01 independent56 Heh, i always went for three. Even in public buildings,like libraries.
13:02 independent56 But i can see why 4 is a good choice. 5 seems excessive
13:02 AristotIe *I like jumping around and not hittin my head*
13:03 independent56 I can do that in 3-tall buildings.
13:03 AristotIe lol, what if you jump on a char :P
13:04 independent56 Oh yeah
13:04 AristotIe also, I use a mod that has so called "bracers" that can let you jump higher so...
13:04 independent56 But still, it's quick and economic.
13:04 AristotIe true, 3 is much cheaper than 4 or 5
13:04 independent56 Especially in the council housing i'm building.
13:05 independent56 I'm going to expeiment and use 4 here.
13:05 AristotIe hehehe, I
13:05 AristotIe 've ...pressed enter accidentally
13:06 AristotIe *anyway* hehehe, I've corrupted someone šŸ˜Ž
13:07 independent56 Maybe i should spend less onhousing and more on transport... eh, high-rise council flats in Nspawn is always nice.
13:09 independent56 They are built with concrete instead of steel as well, to add effect. I got the concrete direct from Scarfolk as it's chap there. I have heard it's cursed.
13:11 independent56 Anyways, what should the bottom floor of a block of flats be?
13:11 AristotIe a lobby?
13:12 independent56 What is a lobby? a shared living room?
13:14 AristotIe uh...
13:14 independent56 Is it a reception? Is it a mix of both?
13:14 AristotIe I dunno, I guess, a waiting area/reception/...entranceway
13:16 independent56 I know what mines going to be now. A place where information about the flats can be optained, but also a shared living room for socialising over TV. And with some practicalities, like washing machines and other things.
13:16 independent56 Thank you.
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18:45 independent56 Well, dammit. Nspawn is a lag machine. And Ā i suspect it's because all the council estates have running computers.
18:48 independent56 Using worldedit i turned them off. Hopefully it works
18:50 independent56 Tell me honestly: Is Nspawn too depressing? https://imgur.com/a/RYt7p5l
18:51 Krock boring copypasta
18:52 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ^
18:53 independent56 What can i put between the council buildings?
18:53 independent56 Statues of dictatorship?
18:54 independent56 http://56i.duckdns.org:8080/#!/map/0/10/1033/5015
18:54 independent56 Here is a bird's eye view
18:59 Krock needs more frog
19:00 independent56 I am not putting statues of traitors
19:05 independent56 anyways, here is a funny [citation needed] pun i made "Here in we execute any traitors" [blank panel of character] "even computer viruses"
19:07 independent56 But you're very lucky i have added greenery
19:08 independent56 I could have made a brutlaist Scarfolk wateland.
19:09 independent56 ./me has noticed the <others>:<independent56> chat ratio is too disbalanced
19:19 MTDiscord <Jonathon> šŸ¤·
19:20 independent56 I forgot to put lighting in the stairs... so much mugging is going to happen.
19:21 MTDiscord <Jonathon> . //r air lightbulb with worldedit+maptools mod
19:21 independent56 And there are 15 floors and no elevators
19:21 MTDiscord <Jonathon> put the fitness person on the top floor
19:21 independent56 The entire place will be overridden with lighting.
19:21 independent56 My god, the council knows nothing.
19:22 AristotIe hmm
19:22 cheapie Heh, this awful computer I got with an AMD E-450 in it... Minetest with rather low settings and a short view range? 50 FPS. "that other game in which you mine and craft"? Never saw much more than 2.
19:23 AristotIe cheapie: indeed
19:23 cheapie I'm used to there being a pretty substantial speed difference on stuff this slow, but I've never seen it be *that* big.
19:23 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/KCxFSga Here is more council building hell for your eyes to vomit upon
19:23 AristotIe hmm
19:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> to flat to be real
19:24 AristotIe independent56: not much depth
19:24 MTDiscord <Jonathon> heh
19:24 AristotIe lol
19:24 independent56 You spawn and are reminded of the Admin's power.
19:25 MTDiscord <Jonathon> you spawn, see lame builds, leave
19:25 independent56 Huge councilblocks tower above you, watchin,judging your every move
19:25 cheapie The buildings don't look *that* bad to me (kinda boring-looking, but meh), but that setup... I don't think I've seen anything quite scream "someone WEed this in" *that* loudly before.
19:25 MTDiscord <Jonathon> lol
19:25 independent56 https://i.imgur.com/4Q9aVxQ.png
19:25 independent56 Thisis how it looks from spawnpoint
19:26 independent56 I need some friendly buildings here
19:26 AristotIe hmm
19:26 independent56 any tips? i have 18 blocks between blocks.
19:27 independent56 *blocks between buildings
19:27 AristotIe some food stands, so it looks more like a real city
19:28 independent56 Good idea. But i need something to compete against the hypertall blocks for eye-time
19:28 AristotIe add some slightly darker blocks to the bottom to draw the eyes up?
19:29 AristotIe not completely sure on that one
19:29 AristotIe afk again :P
19:29 independent56 hmm, how many floors up?
19:29 independent56 3 or 1?
19:30 AristotIe 1-2
19:31 independent56 Thanks
19:32 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/iBeCd3Y basic food stall
19:34 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/1FkSKIa Added the darker to the bottom
19:36 cheapie I guess if there's interest in showing off some builds... I just dug up some old screenshots of the Elk Road library: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20160229_203016.png https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20160229_203036.png https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20160229_203045.png
19:37 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20160229_203116.png
19:37 independent56 wo- wow... these are really good?
19:37 independent56 What's the building for?
19:37 cheapie Hah, if you think that is, you should see Nakilashiva's build that inspired it...
19:38 cheapie This was the one they did: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20160302_174116.png
19:38 independent56 Let's see
19:38 independent56 That's even nicer
19:38 *Ā cheapie nods
19:38 independent56 Again, what are they for?
19:39 cheapie Mine was a library, the other one looks like it probably is too.
19:39 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/Q8HINVe
19:40 independent56 This is mine (signs and books in spanish to cater to a fictional spanish-speaking group of migrant workers)
19:40 cheapie No actual books in this one, the whole building was basically just built for decoration.
19:41 independent56 Yeah, as a way to say "this is how much we have to show", or on a slightlymore poisitive note, "The books have oved to Dokuwiki"
19:41 independent56 Oh wait, you're talking about your own [citation needed]
19:43 cheapie Generally (back when I played MT more) I did more technology stuff and less actual building of buildings.
19:43 independent56 But mine is integrated into a small grid system. I would not be able to use so much space as effectively.
19:43 cheapie Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orl04D06nuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72BR07IVDdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFcRWuGVj8w
19:44 *Ā independent56 laughs in Advtrains interlocking and automatic elevators
19:44 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/media/gradiantthingy.webm too, which is actually a lot simpler than it looks :P
19:44 independent56 Wait, and there are fire alarms?!
19:45 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/git/firealarm/
19:45 independent56 I'm in awe
19:46 independent56 Wow! Does this have more functionality then my Fire_safety mod? https://gitlab.com/56independent/allcode/-/tree/master/projects/minetest%20mods/fire_safety_new
19:47 cheapie I wouldn't say it has more (it probably has less) but it's certainly different.
19:47 cheapie Not digilines-based, for example, although it does have mesecons integration support.
19:48 independent56 hmm. My system is designed to work on it's own fine, it just needs digilines
19:49 cheapie This particular video has been unusually popular recently for some reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkERAFhqpac
19:49 independent56 I would not use mesecons as i need seperate testing and emergency signals.
19:49 independent56 My god you demonstrate expertise within your field.
19:50 cheapie The fire alarm doesn't use mesecons as its main communication setup or anything, by "mesecons integration" I mean you can connect it to mesecons devices (it has zone and relay modules) in addition to its own.
19:50 independent56 I'd say a minecart does not present spectacular danger. But i can see it being integrated with advtrains
19:50 independent56 Oh, cool.
19:51 independent56 I would never need such a thing as i specifically distaste vehicles.
19:51 independent56 http://56i.duckdns.org/dokuwiki/doku.php/guidelines/vehicles
19:51 cheapie There's also that time I made a digilines<->SCSI gateway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeiJxJPCn2U
19:52 independent56 My dear god you humble me with your great knowladge
19:53 cheapie This used it too, it read the "video" from an actual hard drive - IIRC the format I used stuffed each frame into three sectors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG48Y_GbMXk
19:53 independent56 And i can't even bother to make a tunnel for tracks.
19:53 independent56 That is truly the coolest way to rickroll someone.
19:54 cheapie Here, have something with no Luacontroller :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFMTDol5KvE
19:55 *Ā independent56 faints
19:56 independent56 http://56i.duckdns.org:8080/#!/map/0/10/115/-1420
19:56 independent56 This is a live view on a track interchange i made. You can watch the train come and depart
19:56 independent56 North, there is spawn and another great interchange.
19:58 cheapie I should go make a video of the current car wash setup I have - it's based around one Luacontroller, is fully scriptable, and even has its own programming language to write the wash programs in (and a graphical editor for them).
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