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MTDiscord |
<josiah_wi> Might not be fixable, but I'm testing a Minetest server on my OpenBSD potato, and the server is loading chunks very slowly, indicating bad performance as expected. Is there anything I can do to make the server run more smoothly on an old machine besides changing which mods are in use? |
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<josiah_wi> I built with LuaJIT and Spatial Index, which I assume should've helped. LuaJIT in particular. |
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<josiah_wi> I'm using SQLite for the map backend; that's one thing I could possibly change. |
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<josiah_wi> Also not familiar with what settings for the server I can set. |
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<Warr1024> Changing the backend does sound pretty promising to me. |
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<Warr1024> I ran on OpenBSD for a while but didn't find any magic bullet to speed it up. |
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<josiah_wi> Which backend would you recommend? |
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<Warr1024> That's a tough one. I personally have experience with postgresql and it works pretty decently, at least on Linux. That might be a thing to try on OpenBSD... |
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<Warr1024> I think a major handicap of OpenBSD is that its filesystem seems to have a single queue. I've run systems with a fast disk and a slow disk, and on OpenBSD the entire filesystem can end up waiting on the slow disk. It was actually a nightname back when I used to burn DVDs so I wrote a program that basically had a huge in-working-set FIFO to avoid buffer underruns. |
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<Warr1024> I'm not sure exactly how Linux's filesystem is different but it seems not to suffer this so much. |
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<Warr1024> Anyway, having something like pgsql might increase the memory buffer hit rate and thus mitigate disk/filesystem slowness. |
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<Warr1024> Redis might be even more thorough but IIRC the entire world has to be loaded into memory for redis, so that might not be so potato-compatible. |
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sfan5 |
@josiah_wi try playing with the sqlite_synchronous setting |
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sfan5 |
also spatialindex is not directly map related so doesn't help thre |
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<SnowBall444> @josiah_wi |
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definitely_a |
Hi all, I thought about a design change to *maybe* bring more playerbase to minetest. What if we substitute the minetest main menu launcher program, which currently focuses on the engine and not the games, with the specific game a player wants to start? |
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definitely_a |
The main menu launched then would be the same as it is now, but scoped down to the single game to play (settings, servers, etc.), essentially separating the games with different programs, which IMO feels more standard. This may have been suggested before, I'm just curious what ya'll think about it. cheers |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> I mean, there's been discussion about a main menu redesign for a really long time now, one of them being giving more control to the game in terms of the main menu |
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definitely_a |
Is the current design more supported? It's solid, just feels a bit strange to me, idk. |
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definitely_a |
It's good that it is discussed, I'll check that out. |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24256 |
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The_Architect |
hi |
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<SnowBall444> Hi |
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definitely_a |
You of course need to download executables from CDB in my example. If that is okay and safe, then that would be awesome, and work. :3 |
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sfan5 |
downloading games/mods from CDB is already a thing, we have sandboxing for that |
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definitely_a |
ok thanks! |
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<SolarShrine> hello, i'm wondering if there's a side effect of using nodemeta:set_*(...) on unloaded mapblocks? |
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<SolarShrine> like perhaps said mapblocks would load and the registered_lbms callbacks would activate |
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mazes_83 |
it seems vector.to_string is nil here, compile time option missed or removed from api ? |
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sfan5 |
was only added in 5.5 |
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sfan5 |
you can just use minetest.pos_to_string however |
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mazes_83 |
ah, ok sorry, my distro just ship 5.4.1 |
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mazes_83 |
it maybe could have been some missing compile params too |
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Guest25 |
Are Mojang aware of Minetest? Have they ever sent or threatened a C&D? |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> nintendo hasn't ever sued sony for copying their platformer game |
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<Sublayer plank> /sony/sega/ |
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sfan5 |
1) probably and 2) no |
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rubenwardy |
a mojang dev mentioned Minetest once |
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rubenwardy |
and no, Minetest doesn't violate any copyright or trademarks |
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rubenwardy |
voxel sandbox is a genre. You don't see wolfenstein stopping people from making first player shooters |
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Guest25 |
Also, does anyone know what the names are for the skins in Mineclone 2? I know the one in Minetest is Sam, but I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. |
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<SnowBall444> Maybe the second is Alex |
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<SnowBall444> Oh |
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<SnowBall444> Understood what you mean |
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<Jonathon> i would guess the skin name would be in the file name maybe? |
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<Sublayer plank> player.png |
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<Jonathon> that would be a no |
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<Sublayer plank> no wait it's character.png. still though, file name doesn't say much |
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<SnowBall444> No, there no their names |
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<Jonathon> there is skins in two different mods |
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<Jonathon> mcl_player and mcl_skins |
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<SnowBall444> But why do you need to know it, Guest25 ? |
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<SnowBall444> Tried both |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> mcl_skins has a actual skin, mcl_player has preview for another skin that i cant find atm |
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calcul0n_ |
the name is Steve, you can see it in meta files |
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calcul0n_ |
here : https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_skins/meta/mcl_skins_character.txt |
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calcul0n_ |
(if i understood the question correctly :) |
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MTDiscord |
<Sublayer plank> uhuh, checks out then |
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<Sublayer plank> that's not how I remember steve looking like though... I would assume they had different names if they're essentially completely different skins |
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<Jonathon> https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_skins/textures who knows where character is, seems it should be in mcl_skins tho |
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calcul0n_ |
if you mean the model it's in mcl_player |
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<Jonathon> no |
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<Jonathon> mcl_skin_character |
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<Jonathon> mcl_skin_character_1 is in mcl_skins, but not the other one |
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calcul0n_ |
hmm, looks like the default one is in mcl_player/textures too |
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calcul0n_ |
but it's not named mcl_skin_character, that's weird |
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<Jonathon> no |
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<Jonathon> there is only https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_skins/textures/mcl_skins_character_1.png |
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<Jonathon> oh wait, mcl_player |
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<Jonathon> yeah, still no, mcl_player is just previews, not a actual skin |
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calcul0n_ |
ho, you're right |
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<Jonathon> i looked in mcl_core given its descended from default, but not there either |
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calcul0n_ |
maybe the default texture is in the model itself so it's not really a skin |
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<Jonathon> cant do that |
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<Jonathon> not in minetest anyways |
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calcul0n_ |
ha |
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<Sublayer plank> the default male skin is stored in models/ in mcl_player along with the character model |
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calcul0n_ |
yep, just found it https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2/src/branch/master/mods/PLAYER/mcl_player/models/character.png |
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<Jonathon> thats wierd |
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sfan5 |
fact of the day: item sounds are in the definition table under "sound" while node sounds are in the definition table under "sounds" |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> just minetest being consistent in its inconstancies |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: Fix misuse of nodedef custom fields in fence gates 4b8b335 https://git.io/Jz6Lc (2021-09-24T19:03:49Z) |
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