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madduck |
My children report that the inventory has somehow changed and they cannot get all the items anymore. There is no search bar. just this: https://i.imgur.com/tPtAF0q.png |
| 06:50 |
madduck |
I don't know anything about minetest, but I did today install a couple of mods, including unified-inventory, and maybe that is it? looks similar to the screenshot on the github page anyway. |
| 06:50 |
madduck |
I removed the mod since, even tried with a completely fresh .minecraft directory for both server and client, but it stays the same |
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madduck |
any idea what they are talking about, and how I can get back the old inventory? |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> madduck: sounds like creative was disabled. Also Minetests data folder is .minetest, not .minecraft ;] |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Creative is toggled per world with a checkbox on the world select menu |
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Pexin |
my thought is, is this a local game, or did the kids connect to a different server today |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ah, good thought to have |
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madduck |
MTDiscord: I'll check that. The kids connect to the same server every day, which I administer. |
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madduck |
creative mode it was. no idea how that got turned off. |
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MiniontobyPI |
Hey |
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MiniontobyPI |
can someone help me with my error: https://termbin.com/gffw |
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MiniontobyPI |
btw I see a lot of ¨Malformed translation line¨ in my logs atm.... |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> When it comes to kids, if they're too young to be allowed access to all the public servers and such, it's helpful to just use a --go shortcut for MT with all the server info and creds entered... |
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Guest70 |
Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64 Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ------ This application has requested Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way . ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. |
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Guest70 |
=( </3 |
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Guest70 |
=( =( =( =( >.< >.< >.< >.< |
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Guest70 |
Error occur when I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64 Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ------ This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way . ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< X) X) X) X) X) X) X) X) X) =( =( =( =( =( =( =( =( |
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Guest70 |
=( |
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specing |
Time to install GNU+Linux |
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specing |
Guest70: https://getfedora.org/ |
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Guest70 |
i have window on Linux |
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Guest70 |
i have window not Linux |
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sfan5 |
try downloading the 32-bit version |
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Guest70 |
OK |
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Guest70 |
Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64 Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ------ This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way . ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. |
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specing |
Guest70: yeah, that's why I said it was time to install Linux. |
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specing |
>win64 |
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Guest57 |
Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64 Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ------ This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way . ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. |
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specing |
>win64 |
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Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64 Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library ------ This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way . ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. |
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specing |
spam |
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sfan5 |
stop spamming the same message, it's not helping |
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independent56 |
https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye |
| 13:12 |
independent56 |
What do you think of my rail map? |
| 13:18 |
independent56 |
i would upload it to the wiki if i knew the IP address |
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sfan5 |
heh |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> specing: If you pound your ideals any harder they'll start to deal bludgeoning damage. |
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erlehmann |
consider the following: https://mister-muffin.de/p/uK80.png – i ported the meshnode mod to mcl* mods, here is the diff https://mister-muffin.de/p/-skE.diff |
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independent56 |
Still looking for feedback on my map. |
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erlehmann |
independent56, give me a direct link to the map? |
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independent56 |
https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye |
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erlehmann |
; curl -s 'https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye' >/tmp/image && sxiv /tmp/image |
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erlehmann |
sxiv: /tmp/image: Error opening image |
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erlehmann |
sxiv: no more files to display, aborting |
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erlehmann |
# exited 1 |
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independent56 |
The public irclogger seems to be down a bit |
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erlehmann |
; file /tmp/image |
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erlehmann |
lol |
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independent56 |
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pb03A-7pnSi_WmBQEfJraS6RC9yvwemMrDAdDz3N9Bs/https/i.imgur.com/rQpXFroh.jpg?width=400&height=243 |
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independent56 |
Here |
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erlehmann |
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erlehmann |
independent56 nice, but how did you make it, svg? |
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erlehmann |
oh also |
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erlehmann |
i remember the anarchy mountains thing |
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erlehmann |
are you the person who thinks anarchy server means destroy everything? |
| 14:18 |
independent56 |
yes? the anarchy mountains just means you can build where youlike |
| 14:19 |
independent56 |
Yes, used inkscape |
| 14:19 |
independent56 |
https://pastebin.com/7xxg4Xvx |
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independent56 |
The Polite mountains are like the Anarchy mountains, but they dont say "build where the fuckyou like" they say "please build" there is a DMZ seperating the places. |
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erlehmann |
i invite you to join clamity anarchy |
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erlehmann |
it is fun |
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erlehmann |
independent56 if you wish to host it, just host the svg. it looks fine! |
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independent56 |
It changes depending on platform. A png is definitive. |
| 14:23 |
independent56 |
(you might not have the montseratt font installed) |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> There are subsets of SVG that render pretty reliably across platforms ... but yeah, if you've got text in there, that would be one of the things most likely to cause portability problems. |
| 14:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> You can bake the text down to paths to preserve scalability, but then you are still sharing a "compiled" SVG and not really the "source" anymore. |
| 14:26 |
independent56 |
Exactly. I flow the simplest way |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I actually have some SVG textures in my MT stuff, but obviously those need to be baked down to PNG to be usable. |
| 14:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> committing some source's compiled output into the same repo alongside that source is definitely non-ideal but trying to do the alternative and compile it on demand would make distribution a pain. |
| 14:29 |
independent56 |
follow the route of least effort. |
| 14:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Well, it's a short-term/long-term effort trade-off. Do you maintain an error-prone process where you have to remember to manually recompile a thing and check in the compiled version each time the source changes, or do you try to automate it? It would probably depend a lot on how often that source changes, and how easy it would be to fall out of sync and not catch it during testing. |
| 14:37 |
independent56 |
oh wait turns out i was looking at the public irc logs for #minetest-hub and not #minetest |
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sfan5 |
instead of logs for -hub you can better look at an empty piece of paper |
| 14:37 |
sfan5 |
saves energy and bandwidth |
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independent56 |
XD |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> That's not entirely true; we had a spam incident not long ago :-| |
| 14:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> So maybe look at a piece of random junk mail I guess. |
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independent56 |
"Duolingo owl is plotting!" |
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independent56 |
gtg |
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erlehmann |
owl? |
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erlehmann |
owl is a known spammer actually |
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erlehmann |
started spamming clamity not too long ago |
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MiniontobyPI |
Hey, I recall: can someone help me with my error: https://termbin.com/gffw |
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sfan5 |
if minetestserver doesn't start with those errors even after rebuilding then you are running the wrong executable |
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MiniontobyPI |
hmm, that should not be the problem here... maybe i have to set the $HOME Variable or so, idk |
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MiniontobyPI |
but only when using the 1 script thing it doesnt work |
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MiniontobyPI |
hmm setting $HOME didnt worked |
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MiniontobyPI |
wait |
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MiniontobyPI |
oke, i see now |
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sfan5 |
"should not be a problem" is not good enough, you need to verify that the correct things are happening |
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MiniontobyPI |
it was using /usr/local/bin/minetestserver because the check variable was lowercase and the one which was checking was upper case |
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MiniontobyPI |
thanks |
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MiniontobyPI |
but now it keeps staying online when beeing killed |
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MiniontobyPI |
will check that my self |
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MiniontobyPI |
thx for your help |
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independent56 |
Hello. There is a gecko in the room, feeding on our blood (through the mosquitoes). |
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sfan5 |
okay |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and this is relevant why? |
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independent56 |
Just found it funny |
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Pexin |
happy enchephalitis |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> based |
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madduck |
Can a server host multiple worlds? My children want to try a different world, but it seems there is only the notion of connecting to a server, no way to choose or create worlds. I also cannot find any reference in minetest.conf about the default world named "world". So even if I'd start a second server, I would not know how to tell it to use a different world. What am I missing? |
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sfan5 |
--world sets the world path |
| 22:09 |
madduck |
and there is only one world per server? |
| 22:09 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 22:09 |
sfan5 |
good practice is to also use a different config file for each server |
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madduck |
Debian has instances making this really easy |
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madduck |
ExecStart=/usr/lib/minetest/minetestserver --config /etc/minetest/%i.conf --logfile /var/log/minetest/%i.log |
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madduck |
but it is not clear how to specify a different world. |
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madduck |
must be a config file item that isn't listed in the default config file? |
| 22:11 |
sfan5 |
you can specify map-dir in your config file |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> They can also create their own worlds in singleplayer. They also have the option to locally host those worlds. That way you dont have to change your server config if they just want to try stuff out |
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sfan5 |
but really I'd expect the debian unit files to do this, it's an oversight |
| 22:11 |
madduck |
sfan5: I'll file a little bug |
| 22:12 |
madduck |
GreenXenith: yeah true. I guess I should actually encourage them to just host each other. |
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madduck |
I remember now why I set up the server: because they could not connect to each other. I have meanwhile found out why that is: the dns names have ipv6 records, and in their presence, minetest tries only those and does not properly fall back to ipv4. ipv6_server=true doesn't seem to work properly either. |
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sfan5 |
fallback is indeed absent |
| 22:43 |
sfan5 |
however ipv6_server should definitely work |
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madduck |
tcpdump shows lots of v6 packets in each direction, but the connection always times out |
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madduck |
using the v4 address instead of the hostname works though |
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Tusha |
Well if fallback doesn't work I guess it could be done on a host file? Just thinking out loud |
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madduck |
or i just remove the v6 addresses from dns, or just teach them about ipv4 addresses, but I won't just give up right now. |
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Tusha |
Maybe there is something acting as a firewall? |
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madduck |
then i would not expect v6 packets to fly both directions. |
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Tusha |
I see, now you got me |
| 22:59 |
Tusha |
So it connects, and then times out, or there is never a visual connection? |
| 23:02 |
Tusha |
Just trying to figure out the global concept, there are two computers, each with a dns record to a v6 ip, which are trying to connect over internet to each other? |
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Tusha |
Just asking in case there is a problem with reverse NAT, in case it is occuring on a LAN, if not, I don't know what could be happening |
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