Time  Nick          Message
06:49 madduck       My children report that the inventory has somehow changed and they cannot get all the items anymore. There is no search bar. just this: https://i.imgur.com/tPtAF0q.png
06:50 madduck       I don't know anything about minetest, but I did today install a couple of mods, including unified-inventory, and maybe that is it? looks similar to the screenshot on the github page anyway.
06:50 madduck       I removed the mod since, even tried with a completely fresh .minecraft directory for both server and client, but it stays the same
06:50 madduck       any idea what they are talking about, and how I can get back the old inventory?
07:06 MTDiscord     <GreenXenith> madduck: sounds like creative was disabled. Also Minetests data folder is .minetest, not .minecraft ;]
07:07 MTDiscord     <GreenXenith> Creative is toggled per world with a checkbox on the world select menu
07:09 Pexin         my thought is,  is this a local game, or did the kids connect to a different server today
07:09 MTDiscord     <GreenXenith> Ah, good thought to have
07:14 madduck       MTDiscord: I'll check that. The kids connect to the same server every day, which I administer.
07:15 madduck       creative mode it was. no idea how that got turned off.
08:42 MiniontobyPI  Hey
08:43 MiniontobyPI  can someone help me with my error: https://termbin.com/gffw
08:43 MiniontobyPI  btw I see a lot of ¨Malformed translation line¨ in my logs atm....
12:58 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> When it comes to kids, if they're too young to be allowed access to all the public servers and such, it's helpful to just use a --go shortcut for MT with all the server info and creds entered...
12:58 Guest70       Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64  Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library  ------   This application has requested  Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way .   ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information.
12:58 Guest70       =( </3
12:58 Guest70       =( =( =( =( >.< >.< >.< >.<
12:59 Guest70       Error occur when I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64  Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library  ------   This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way .   ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information. >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< X) X) X) X) X) X) X) X) X)   =( =( =( =( =( =( =( =(
12:59 Guest70       =(
12:59 specing       Time to install GNU+Linux
13:00 specing       Guest70: https://getfedora.org/
13:00 Guest70       i have window on Linux
13:01 Guest70       i have window not Linux
13:01 sfan5         try downloading the 32-bit version
13:02 Guest70       OK
13:02 Guest70       Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64  Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library  ------   This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way .   ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information.
13:03 specing       Guest70: yeah, that's why I said it was time to install Linux.
13:04 specing       >win64
13:04 Guest57       Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64  Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library  ------   This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way .   ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information.
13:07 specing       >win64
13:08 Guest5738     Error occur whin I open minetesr game 5.4.1win64  Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library  ------   This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way .   ---------Please contact the application's support team for more information.
13:09 specing       spam
13:09 sfan5         stop spamming the same message, it's not helping
13:12 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye
13:12 independent56 What do you think of my rail map?
13:18 independent56 i would upload it to the wiki if i knew the IP address
13:19 sfan5         heh
13:41 MTDiscord     <Benrob0329> specing: If you pound your ideals any harder they'll start to deal bludgeoning damage.
13:58 erlehmann     consider the following: https://mister-muffin.de/p/uK80.png – i ported the meshnode mod to mcl* mods, here is the diff https://mister-muffin.de/p/-skE.diff
14:07 independent56 Still looking for feedback on my map.
14:09 erlehmann     independent56, give me a direct link to the map?
14:09 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye
14:10 erlehmann     ; curl -s 'https://imgur.com/a/rXvbJye' >/tmp/image && sxiv /tmp/image
14:10 erlehmann     sxiv: /tmp/image: Error opening image
14:10 erlehmann     sxiv: no more files to display, aborting
14:10 erlehmann     # exited 1
14:10 independent56 The public irclogger seems to be down a bit
14:10 erlehmann     ; file /tmp/image
14:10 erlehmann     lol
14:11 independent56 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pb03A-7pnSi_WmBQEfJraS6RC9yvwemMrDAdDz3N9Bs/https/i.imgur.com/rQpXFroh.jpg?width=400&height=243
14:11 independent56 Here
14:15 independent56 erlehmann
14:18 erlehmann     independent56 nice, but how did you make it, svg?
14:18 erlehmann     oh also
14:18 erlehmann     i remember the anarchy mountains thing
14:18 erlehmann     are you the person who thinks anarchy server means destroy everything?
14:18 independent56 yes? the anarchy mountains just means you can build where youlike
14:19 independent56 Yes, used inkscape
14:19 independent56 https://pastebin.com/7xxg4Xvx
14:22 independent56 The Polite mountains are like the Anarchy mountains, but they dont say "build where the fuckyou like" they say "please build" there is a DMZ seperating the places.
14:23 erlehmann     i invite you to join clamity anarchy
14:23 erlehmann     it is fun
14:23 erlehmann     independent56 if you wish to host it, just host the svg. it looks fine!
14:23 independent56 It changes depending on platform. A png is definitive.
14:23 independent56 (you might not have the montseratt font installed)
14:25 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> There are subsets of SVG that render pretty reliably across platforms ... but yeah, if you've got text in there, that would be one of the things most likely to cause portability problems.
14:26 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> You can bake the text down to paths to preserve scalability, but then you are still sharing a "compiled" SVG and not really the "source" anymore.
14:26 independent56 Exactly. I flow the simplest way
14:26 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> I actually have some SVG textures in my MT stuff, but obviously those need to be baked down to PNG to be usable.
14:28 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> committing some source's compiled output into the same repo alongside that source is definitely non-ideal but trying to do the alternative and compile it on demand would make distribution a pain.
14:29 independent56 follow the route of least effort.
14:31 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> Well, it's a short-term/long-term effort trade-off.  Do you maintain an error-prone process where you have to remember to manually recompile a thing and check in the compiled version each time the source changes, or do you try to automate it?  It would probably depend a lot on how often that source changes, and how easy it would be to fall out of sync and not catch it during testing.
14:37 independent56 oh wait turns out i was looking at the public irc logs for #minetest-hub and not #minetest
14:37 sfan5         instead of logs for -hub you can better look at an empty piece of paper
14:37 sfan5         saves energy and bandwidth
14:39 independent56 XD
14:40 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> That's not entirely true; we had a spam incident not long ago :-|
14:41 MTDiscord     <Warr1024> So maybe look at a piece of random junk mail I guess.
14:44 independent56 "Duolingo owl is plotting!"
14:44 independent56 gtg
15:30 erlehmann     owl?
15:30 erlehmann     owl is a known spammer actually
15:30 erlehmann     started spamming clamity not too long ago
15:40 MiniontobyPI  Hey, I recall: can someone help me with my error: https://termbin.com/gffw
15:43 sfan5         if minetestserver doesn't start with those errors even after rebuilding then you are running the wrong executable
15:43 MiniontobyPI  hmm, that should not be the problem here... maybe i have to set the $HOME Variable or so, idk
15:43 MiniontobyPI  but only when using the 1 script thing it doesnt work
15:46 MiniontobyPI  hmm setting $HOME didnt worked
15:47 MiniontobyPI  wait
15:47 MiniontobyPI  oke, i see now
15:48 sfan5         "should not be a problem" is not good enough, you need to verify that the correct things are happening
15:48 MiniontobyPI  it was using /usr/local/bin/minetestserver because the check variable was lowercase and the one which was checking was upper case
15:49 MiniontobyPI  thanks
15:51 MiniontobyPI  but now it keeps staying online when beeing killed
15:51 MiniontobyPI  will check that my self
15:51 MiniontobyPI  thx for your help
19:40 independent56 Hello. There is a gecko in the room, feeding on our blood (through the mosquitoes).
19:42 sfan5         okay
19:43 MTDiscord     <Jonathon> and this is relevant why?
19:44 independent56 Just found it funny
19:51 Pexin         happy enchephalitis
20:20 MTDiscord     <Jordach> based
22:07 madduck       Can a server host multiple worlds? My children want to try a different world, but it seems there is only the notion of connecting to a server, no way to choose or create worlds. I also cannot find any reference in minetest.conf about the default world named "world". So even if I'd start a second server, I would not know how to tell it to use a different world. What am I missing?
22:09 sfan5         --world sets the world path
22:09 madduck       and there is only one world per server?
22:09 sfan5         yes
22:09 sfan5         good practice is to also use a different config file for each server
22:10 madduck       Debian has instances making this really easy
22:10 madduck       ExecStart=/usr/lib/minetest/minetestserver --config /etc/minetest/%i.conf --logfile /var/log/minetest/%i.log
22:10 madduck       but it is not clear how to specify a different world.
22:10 madduck       must be a config file item that isn't listed in the default config file?
22:11 sfan5         you can specify map-dir in your config file
22:11 MTDiscord     <GreenXenith> They can also create their own worlds in singleplayer. They also have the option to locally host those worlds. That way you dont have to change your server config if they just want to try stuff out
22:11 sfan5         but really I'd expect the debian unit files to do this, it's an oversight
22:11 madduck       sfan5: I'll file a little bug
22:12 madduck       GreenXenith: yeah true. I guess I should actually encourage them to just host each other.
22:42 madduck       I remember now why I set up the server: because they could not connect to each other. I have meanwhile found out why that is: the dns names have ipv6 records, and in their presence, minetest tries only those and does not properly fall back to ipv4. ipv6_server=true doesn't seem to work properly either.
22:43 sfan5         fallback is indeed absent
22:43 sfan5         however ipv6_server should definitely work
22:48 madduck       tcpdump shows lots of v6 packets in each direction, but the connection always times out
22:48 madduck       using the v4 address instead of the hostname works though
22:51 Tusha         Well if fallback doesn't work I guess it could be done on a host file? Just thinking out loud
22:52 madduck       or i just remove the v6 addresses from dns, or just teach them about ipv4 addresses, but I won't just give up right now.
22:53 Tusha         Maybe there is something acting as a firewall?
22:54 madduck       then i would not expect v6 packets to fly both directions.
22:56 Tusha         I see, now you got me
22:59 Tusha         So it connects, and then times out, or there is never a visual connection?
23:02 Tusha         Just trying to figure out the global concept, there are two computers, each with a dns record to a v6 ip, which are trying to connect over internet to each other?
23:19 Tusha         Just asking in case there is a problem with reverse NAT, in case it is occuring on a LAN, if not, I don't know what could be happening